The Future of RALLY GAMES! BeamNG.drive

[@HighDefBNG]

We are watching :) Thanks for the vid. We hope we can work on all of those cool rally features that you spoke of.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@HighDefBNG nice!!! Love to hear that, I subbed! I'll keep an eye out.

[@Diehard148]

This will be my favorite rally game. It secretly already is for a while 😊

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@Diehard148 can't wait till a serious mod package is developed.

[@darthsnape]

Hello fellow rally enthusiast. I agree with your points. 10 tracks per map, returning to service area, driving damaged cars as long as it is running. Solid ideas man and great video.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@darthsnape Yes! And it's definitely possible with this game. I'm sure of it!

[@DouglasThompson]

I also agree with everything this man says...the only thing I ever disagree with him is when to simrace...I have been winning lately.

[@JoabeDutra]

LOL

[@AcerNitro5speed]

Ha😂

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@AcerNitro5speed :)

[@AcerNitro5speed]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing man thank you for responding so fast no one does that!🤣I just got my c12

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@AcerNitro5speed nice man! Ya i try and stay on top of comments. :) consider yourself pounced upon.

[@PrimeKPlays-ry5li]

I agree with every opinion in here. Lets get them to do Stage-to-stage!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Ya!!!! It's one of the biggest things missing from rally sims. That and recce but we have that in modded assetto and modded beam.

[@4Bit_Limbo]

Can we appreciate that he did a full uninterrupted commentary while delivering an incredibly fast run on his SECOND attempt? Insane

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Oh thank you man! I didn't feel i did very well but I'll take it!

[@massimoconcimedia612]

Man BeamNG has come so far! I remember the days of RIG's Of Rods and when they started to trial a new graphics engine, then next thing we knew beamng was out.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@massimoconcimedia612 I have heard about ror, I don't think i was in the simracing scene back when that happened.

[@danibollini9735]

I'm always super torn between playing Beam, Generation, or RBR. Every sim has its own pros and cons. Anyway, you're my fave simracer KZbinr, bro!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@danibollini9735 Thank you so much!!! I have a cool video that should be ready tomorrow! Hope you like it. Also what's brr?

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@danibollini9735 oh RBR sorry lol I should have figured that out instantly lol

[@gtavbigfan1999]

making a beamng video just earned you a new subscriber :)), cool setup, make more beamng content and I'll watch it :P

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

I have made BeamNG content in the past. I usually play the game when there are big bew updates or when exciting mods release. :)

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@gtavbigfan1999 perhaps I should complie a BeamNG playlist for BeamNG enthusiasts.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@gtavbigfan1999 kzbin.info/aero/PLmu8cPCAuk35TjFgznN7fh_4wREwGILGh&feature=shared

[@KeepoHdee]

Having rally stages built in is a huge step forward. Driving from stage to stage is not something Ive ever experienced but sounds cool.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@KeepoHdee i mean, there are limitations to how large and detailed a map can be, but if you've played the game and just roamed around, they are pretty damn big areas. For replicating real roads, this would be difficult, but for fantasy locations that just feel real, artists could simply add more twists and turns to make a stage feel longer in the same amount of space. What's key to the equation is connecting roads. If you have enough connecting roads and alternate paths, you can make a ton of different variations to the same set of roads. And of course, forward and reverse layouts double everything that's possible. Maybe i should make a pretend rally to demonstrate what I expect in the future for this rally mode.

[@massolaracing7482]

I am thinking about making finall a PC simulator for rally :D

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Is time the only thing standing in the way? I guarantee people would want to help you develop it.

[@pinetree7296]

Why i want more focus on rally is cause this is the only game that makes me feel iam on the edge of my seat one small crash and it could be over. Dirt Rally 2.0 is great in that sense it makes you feel like a real Rally driver like you are a seasoned driver, but in BeamNG that game humbles you and you realize how much of a rookie you are.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@pinetree7296 Yep! Well said!

[@AmbientMike]

BARE Sleepy feet? FOR FREE?!? Gotta hit up Jon for some hand me down socks.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Lol, my feet had to take a breather from Jon's socks #thanksforthesocksjon

[@anishchattopadhyay8779]

You drive so amazing man..Keep Going

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Lol thanks man, I appreciate that. Maybe I'll try to actually set a time here.

[@rcsibiu]

This is funny bro :) You have so much gear there, probably hundreds of dollars spent, maybe a few thousand.... and you drive barefoot :)))

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@rcsibiu lol this was on purpose to tip my hat to my old tiktok livestreams. This was the same angle I used over on that platform for a good while with huge success. I do drive barefoot often though too. ;)

[@toughfeller1141]

Im not a sim racer but one of the things that i always wanted in beamng like u. Is saving the damage on ur car. I want it to be saved not only physical damage but anything u have consumed on ur last drive.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Like tires and fuel?

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

I agree

[@toughfeller1141]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacingyeah, tire wear is not out yet. Consumable things may get extended like oil, electricity, anything comes to mind that makes the car more challenging to drive makes me have more fun. But this is more like a dream i dont ask the devs for it.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@toughfeller1141 for rally it's pretty important so I hope the same.

[@BrysonTheTomato]

your setup is insane!!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Thank you much!!!

[@skitownstreetcred]

Love it broski! I've been so busy with work since I built my rig, I just got on it the other day. I might do some driving later today too. We'll see. Hope all is goo d with you guys!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Hey man! Glad to hear from you! Maybe if beam gets going soon we can all do a championship in celebration! What games you been playing?

[@skitownstreetcred]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Since I still travel every week and do not have a travel setup for simming, I've been doing the new COD6. Luckily, I literally just got my rig fired back up and updated, so I'm trying out a few races with WRC24 as we speak. I'm heading into the garage to get back to it. I feel like Winter is more of my time to Sim! Do I need to download any updates ro play Beam Rally? Or do I just go on and choose the option?

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@skitownstreetcred there are some big updates but it should be automatic as soon as you try to start it

[@OverNightLuthier]

IDK...if there was the possibility of this happening, i feel like you would never be available to help me with my guitars...

[@TheFriedAim]

Yess I love the recommendations they could revolutionize the rally sim genre be the next gen Richard burns rally!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@TheFriedAim there is already so much groundwork they've done. All that's left is just someone to put the peices in order. It can be done right now i think. We have enough cars to fill multiple categories, we have enough maps from the base game to start it off already and God only knows how many community made maps and cars that people could use for this same goal.

[@BaptisteEvain-Laine]

You could install the RLS campaign mod and play the rally challenges in it. Even allows you to build whichever car you want, pretty neat.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@BaptisteEvain-Laine does it allow you to play a whole rally?

[@BaptisteEvain-Laine]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing There are rally races in it yeah

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@BaptisteEvain-Laine nice, I'll have to check it out!

[@brachlandmusic]

As I will not buy WRC I would gladly play BeamNG Rally. I mean they can do so much with it already and BeamNG would not need to be a Rally exclusive and still develope the other branches. I am still keen on the career mode and I hope next year they will bring some updates to it.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Yes, the career mode seems very promising, definitely an exciting feature.

[@TheQuietBeast]

I like the angle. BeamNG has tons of potential. Will be awesome this. I could not figure out how to reset the car. Did not work as in free roam. But I guess it is easy to fix.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

I have mine setup to be on space bar. You can set it for any button i think.

[@SP.Spittlebug]

nice view! make sure you join the discussion on the beam forums from that link in the game when you get the wip warning. the devs will listen to people feedback and ideas

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Discord?

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

And thank you for the feedback!

[@SP.Spittlebug]

@ no not discord. beamng forums on their website. you get a link in that warning message when you click on the rally button in the game. thats where all the feedback and suggestions should go for them to read them

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@SP.Spittlebug oh nice, I'm there!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@SP.Spittlebug I posted on there! :)

[@yorha2j525]

Would love to experience this game in a sick set up like this I get like 45 fps lol

[@RookieDrifter]

very cool setup! the big curved monitor is fire

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Ya, I do wish it had a bit more verticality but it's pretty awesome for rally games. Not so much circuit racing because you can't see out your right window but luckily for me it's very well suited to the rally stuff! ;)

[@AuxiliaryEgg]

I have dreamed of a rally sim where you get to drive from stage to stage

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Its coming!!! If we want it enough!

[@nicki9knuckles]

I dig this camera set up. Also agree with all things said here 😊

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Thank you for the feedback! I'll work on getting the lighting a bit better.

[@pixel23dprint92]

I have a gravel rally stage coming out soon. It's made from many lidar sections pieced together to form a big loop [about 19km]. In the trailer description there is a link for the best purpose built Rally car for BeamNG. Ignore the looks, it's all about the feel with a direct drive wheel.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@pixel23dprint92 ohhhh! Really cool! On your channel?

[@pixel23dprint92]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Yes, the latest video is the trailer. The stage should be on the repo by the end of the week. I can't wait for people to try it out!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@pixel23dprint92 i saw it, looked very cool!

[@pixel23dprint92]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Did you have a look at the rally car mod? The developer has put a lot of time and effort in to making an amazing driving WRC1/2/rallycross mod.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@pixel23dprint92 you mean the one with improved aero and such? I believe i have unless it's been updated further.

[@gamechip06]

Not the grippers 😂

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Lol I figured i had to since i used to use this exact view on tiktok streams...barefoot

[@georgemichelakis4056]

dirt rally2 to me had the best chance to be the most complete rally game if it had open world and to stage to stage driving

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Ya there was a good amount of content in that game. The little dirt fish map would have been awesome if it was the whole area.

[@georgemichelakis4056]

@SleepyPantsSimRacing exactly

[@AustenValentine]

Perfect camera and lights!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@AustenValentine Thank you much! I do need to set the camera ISO a bit different though I think for the low lights.

[@AustenValentine]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing It looked to me like you had supplemental lighting set up nicely, but maybe that's just me because the final video is my only point of reference.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@AustenValentine i did but I had to do indirect lighting because of the glare on the screen.

[@mauriziorossi7848]

this is the real hope for rally into simraracing🤞🤞

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Oh yes! I have great hopes for EVO as well but not damage-wise....

[@mauriziorossi7848]

@SleepyPantsSimRacing not in eary time for rally in Ac evo.....

[@Cereal_Killr]

Best racing game out. Been saying it for a while now!Beam is an awesome game with high end physics!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

The physics are unbeatable at this point. I don't think assetto EVO can compete

[@Cereal_Killr]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing I can agree with that. The game is just...FUN!

[@SP.Spittlebug]

@@Cereal_Killr yes this kind of physic should be the standard for a true simulation. no other sim on the market now can really compete.

[@gaminginstilllife9429]

i love WRC 24, plays awesome in VR

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Really? What is your setup?

[@feiks420]

those grippers man 😭😭

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Gotta grip em gud

[@vincenzoilautismo]

try the hood camera and get the FOV to 100 or so. You get a better sense of speed that way

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

There is already too much sense of speed for how fast I'm going here in this video for me personally. The hood cam does allow for a lot more screen real estate though.

[@richardthompson7611]

I like the angle...

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@richardthompson7611 Thank you! Works even better in landscape, i just wish I could get more of the hpattern and handbrake in the shot.

[@Thefrogbread]

Insane rig

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@Thefrogbread Thank you much! Its something I take a lot of pride in!

[@Thefrogbread]

@ I run it on a laptop with a g29 on ultra low settings, but it works!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@Thefrogbread yes indeed! However you get your racing fix, makes no difference we are all racing! Glad to hear!

[@GameBrainMedia]

BAREFOOTIN'!!!!!! ~ Robert Parker

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

I drive like this in real life barefootin' sometimes. Lol

[@reviewforthetube6485]

I mean beam ng is goated af. Has been

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Oh definitely!!

[@southern_potato]

I'd be really interested in what you think of my recent "Custom Rally Pacenotes" mod which includes my pre-recorded notes, and the ability to record your own pacenotes. Really looking for feedback on my calls, as well as what sort of customization people want from my pacenotes system. I'm also really excited about the possibility of stage to stage in this game, hoping to see something like that eventually!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Where can I find them, maybe I'll try them out if I get time today.

[@southern_potato]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing The mod is on the BeamNG repo, search custom rally pacenotes. The main mod doesn't include pre recorded pacenotes, so you'll also need the addons. You can check out the videos on my channel if you want links

[@mik1037]

If BeamNg invests more in Rally I would buy it. BTW WRC kinda had ''open world'' driving, it was fun... The ffb looks non existent, never took BeamNg seriously, still not sold...

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Ya the open practice areas in wrc games have been pretty cool. Maybe someone can mod that portion of the game eventually. And yes ffb has always been beamng's Achilles heel for many users. I am very happy with it personally because it feels realistic to my hands but I also understand my preference is not everyone's preference and that the adjustability can be vastly improved.

[@St0rm1388]

That was clean! How's the FFB comparatively to the GOAT?

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

You talking rbr? It's very good now. Feels very realistic.

[@St0rm1388]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Yes RBR haha, thanks for the heads up, I'll give it a go!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@St0rm1388 i will say beam doesn't allow for fine tuned ffb tweaking.

[@GRamerDim]

raw dogging the pedals is wild

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

I like to live like I'm in the wild...with my feet at least.

[@Ilgulliverblue]

finally a video like this...i always trust in beamng from when came out....editor still little bit hard to use..but never go very deep in it

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

I have delved into the editor mode and it goes DEEP! Way deeper than I am willing to go currently but super cool it let's you.

[@Ilgulliverblue]

@SleepyPantsSimRacing I would try again. I also find it more hard to discover cause I m Italian ... would be amazing build real stages taking topography maps and modelling ...then organize everything else ..maybe also the transfert between stages and park ...can be crazy good idea... I m little bit sad that the major doesn't create nothing real...they doesn't even add other player on the same track like happen ..ok not easy for the CPU ...there is a lot of work to do and experiment! I hope this video will be the start of something cool in rally games!!? Cheers bro

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@Ilgulliverblue same! I will most likely make a couple more videos on this topic.

[@SP.Spittlebug]

@@Ilgulliverblue italian here. i am slowly building a real stage from rally del salento. maybe i can help you with the editor..

[@matttheazn]

what shifter and handbrake are you currently using?

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Oktane V3 sequential and sim-lab xb1

[@kokodzambo3320]

And BeamNG has VR support.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Yes! That's a great point, its not well optimized yet but it is there and playable with the right settings.

[@kokodzambo3320]

@SleepyPantsSimRacing I think there is still room for optimization, but even so, at this moment, thanks to Vulcan API, I am able to maintain a steady 72fps on a 7900xtx nitro+ and 5900x in the case of solo driving and sometimes a few opponents on Quest 3. Let's remember that BeamNG is quite resource-intensive due to its advanced physics simulation.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@kokodzambo3320 i am running that same exact setup. Maybe i need to try it again. I tested it when vr first came back to beam and I didn't have a good experience.

[@kokodzambo3320]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Now is much better for me. I'm launching via Link cable through openXR or via VirtualDesktop through VDXR. Recently, SteamVR API is also quite good. If you're playing on a screen while switching to VR you should also disable vertical sync in the BeamNG settings.

[@ekloki]

i have 1000h on beamng and still love this game

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Great to hear! I'm not sure how many i have. Maybe like 80 or 100?

[@alles_Freaks]

im pretty much just struggling with the force feedback of beamNG. its either ripping of my hand or dead 😑 hope to see all the basic rally features at one point tho.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Yes that's beam ffb lol

[@Arvidje]

objects outside the car should also have flex or can break.. its to static , no animations..

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@Arvidje oh you mean like the environment? I think some vegetation moves doesn't it? I can't recall

[@SP.Spittlebug]

there are already things with physics like bales and barriers and cones... it would not be too difficult to make new ones but they would probably suck too much fps for now

[@AustenValentine]

I like the game itself, but I find the UI in BeamNG very awkward, convoluted and sometimes buggy (especially in VR) where I just can't muster up the courage to load it up in case I find myself fighting to get it working more than driving. Has anyone else found this? Does it ever become intuitive to navigate and troubleshoot? If they ever do a UI overhaul, I'll be first in line to give it all I've got.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@AustenValentine no it is NEVER intuitive. I actually mentioned that in my first footage i captured but the file got corrupted and I forgot to mention it again. What I am suggesting here in this video though is a dedicated rally mode, that means separate menus focused on purely rally stuff. And much of the menu navigation would preferably be in-game.

[@Arvidje]

they did a overhaul couple of years back and made it worse then previous.. they are simply not good in this stuff..

[@fullcircle6107]

What wheel combo is that ?

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@fullcircle6107 cammus LP8 wheelbase and SIMDID GTW wheel.

[@Plutoman09]

There's nothing worse than A SILENT DRIVE !!!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@Plutoman09 lol agreed.

[@gamerguy-dq5sf]

pov camera angle pls

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@gamerguy-dq5sf Are you asking for me to play pov? There are 2 chunks of footage in pov in this video. :)

[@winkerface2332]

Have you played Richard Burns Rally?

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Sure have!!!! Many years :)

[@ajfreshkid]

Alright I'll ask the question on every other weirdos mind... Where's the link to more of the dogs out 😂

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

[e-mail]

[@ajfreshkid]

@SleepyPantsSimRacing no seriously 😅🤣

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@ajfreshkid lol maybe I'll set one up!

[@klstrucker930419]

What screen is that?

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Samsung g9 49"

[@wallasepants]

i made a in depth wrc mod

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

What is the mod called?

[@wallasepants]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing its in the descripion of video on my channel

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@wallasepants i checked it out, very cool man!

[@wallasepants]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing 😁

[@lilSmurf69]

i want realism so i went to buy a car now im a real life racer

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@lilSmurf69 lol there you go.

[@Gabdimension]

is it possible to use an AI to create rally stages?

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@Gabdimension yes, with AI Pacenotes. You can choose any path you'd like and you'll have a start and end time. Unfortunately it won't automatically place barriers and such but as long as you know the basic path and you are great at making notes, you can play without any kind of visual barriers.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Search "AI Pacenotes mod"

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@Gabdimension kzbin.info/www/bejne/in-Yn5SLhbiDgskfeature=shared

[@Gabdimension]

@@SleepyPantsSimRacing no no, i mean 3d rally Stage creation but with AI

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@Gabdimension oh, i see...hmm I don't know of any methods for this particular game but that would be awesome! The closest thing I've seen to this is the terrain generator with UE5 the game engine is capable of it but no developers have attempted it from what has been publicly shown. The issue being an entire game would have to be built on that engine and I'm not sure it has proven itself yet with racing game developers, either that or simply there are jot enough devs familiar with it to make it happen in a controlled fashion.

[@diggybizzy]

AT LEAST WEAR SOOCKS MAN

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@diggybizzy ill have to hit up Jon Armstrong.

[@knowyourjoe8826]

I like the angle. It displays a lot of information. For what it is worth I agree with your assessment of things needed in Rally Sims/Games... Which now I have to ask... I wonder what the majority of people want, a SIM or a GAME??? I personally prefer the sim for driving/flying. But maybe that is just me. Got to add this to my Steam. Thanks for sharing.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Thanks man, ya i think it will be a nice main angle. I have a different camera setup coming too that I think will be nice to get the head shots. But this is the absolute most i could get in the frame and still have it feel immersive with my head out of the way. Ya, most people would prefer the game but sim racers aren't most people. :)

[@IMSimplyPakistani]

Fingers crossed

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

Yes indeed!!!

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@@IMSimplyPakistani and toes!

[@IMSimplyPakistani]

@ hahaha

[@lfbarni]

I agree with every opinion here.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@lfbarni it's possible and I think if we nudge the devs enough they will see they have a unique position in rally gaming.

[@tijssens]

Wait a sec....using a cheap ADC => optical => DAC....is definitely not a way to preserve audio quality

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@tijssens I'm not sure what you are referring to.

[@FOREST10PL]

If only thins game could have a proper, good FFB.

[@SleepyPantsSimRacing]

@FOREST10PL it has pretty realistic feeling ffb but not much in the way of adjusting it.