The Future of Saudi Arabia || Peter Zeihan

[@acidbronson9712]

Peter said good morning, he finally knows we all watch him like the morning news

[@ivancho5854]

Or maybe he's filming... in the morning?

[@jakeforrest]

@@ivancho5854No shit, Sherlock !

[@immortaljanus]

Nope, it's 2pm where I am.

[@ironwoodworkman4917]

Maybe he will talk about how the U.S. because of the Democrat's. Business that have been operating for 100 to 150 years or more have close on massive level. Car deals are going bankrupt. Banks closing down in record numbers, massive inflation, No stop wars. whole city's being taken over by gang not even from the U.S., Massive numbers illegal Aliens getting all the jobs as Americans starve. Crime out of control and Americans being killed everyday but none Americans. No one speaks English in a English speaking nation. Well all the Dem-O-Rats are finding out in all their city's. Now it is time to turn them lose on the posh hoods the @Peter Zeihan lives in and the Belt-way. COME GET! ! ! SOME! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

[@VeinsDeLAlfaz]

@@ivancho5854…and…? It’s afternoon for me right now 😜

[@douglassun8456]

I read somewhere a story that King Faisal tried to soothe Henry Kissinger over the Saudis seemingly having the US by the short hairs by saying something like, "Someday, when the oil runs out and the House of Saud goes back into the sand, there will still be a United States of America." As someone who grew up in the '60s and '70's, there was a time when I could not imagine that a) the Cold War would ever end, and b) that Saudi Arabia would ever lose its relevance. And yet it seems that I will live long enough to see both.

[@secretname4190]

Don't forget c) The United States of America may no longer exist

[@TrendyStone]

@@secretname4190How is “option c” a viable option? I can’t see it. Please enlighten us.

[@buggadifino5780]

There is only one scenario I can think of to bring that about. America cannot be invaded (Peter Zeihan explains why in some of his other videos). So the only way America can fall is if it falls from internal pressure. In short a US Civil War Mk 2. I will leave it to Americans to tell me if it is possible or probable.

[@nnonotnow]

No in our lifetime

[@JohnJones-k9d]

@@nnonotnowThe Saudias own US Congress that’s why the us loves them. US needs them to buy us debt or China to buy it.

[@ugiswrong]

Oh my pager is going off

[@julonkrutor4649]

I am still on the fence if that was funny and smart or dumb and funny. I am sure it was funny - for us that are not part of a terrorist organisation.

[@danielthomas5057]

is it buzzing?

[@TheAmericanPrometheus]

​@@julonkrutor4649 queers for Palestine should be very happy right now, getting some free Israeli-Taiwanese funded transition surgery...

[@InimitaPaul]

That was a bit “limp”

[@MarkusMöttus-x7j]

Aaaaand kablammo or mush 😂😂

[@christopherfritz3840]

Anyone remember 'Odd-Even' gasoline days in 1979? 😬

[@judewarner1536]

That was when OPEC was flexing it's muscles and Arab oil had been cheaper than the US product, leading to stagnation of the US oil industry. This was also a period when inflation was roughly DOUBLE that experienced 2022 - 2024 and it lasted a decade, not two miserable years. How feeble the Millennials and snowflakes are in comparison with THAT generation.

[@ddoppster]

Yep, felt pretty abused by SA and big oil then, we did............

[@gcoffey223]

Yup!!

[@ighdesigns]

Don’t top off.

[@dandefox]

No. I am too young to remember that old man.

[@R3FU3D]

"You know what the business community thinks of you? They think that a hundred years ago you were living in tents out here in the desert chopping each other's heads off and that's where you'll be in another hundred years, so, yes, on behalf of my firm I accept your money." That quote from Syriana has stuck with me from the first time I watched that movie.

[@BuiltInBrooklyn]

Yeah, that quote says more about America and the west in general than it says about Saudi Arabia! I don’t think the populations in western countries realize where their elected, and unelected, leaders are taking them…Peter Zeihan is either the perfect embodiment of the delusional “American exceptionalism” mindset, is in denial or is intentionally misleading his viewers. The people in western countries, especially Europe, are in for a very jarring wake up call. It is not a coincidence that the manufacturing heart of Europe, Germany, is starting to skip beats and Europe as a whole is in decline! The future is in the global south and that’s where the actual rulers of the world; the owners and controllers of global financialized capital, are taking their money and leaving. Capitalism needs an endless supply of babies and western nations aren’t having much of those.

[@BuiltInBrooklyn]

Yeah, that quote says more about America and the west in general than it says about Saudi Arabia! I don’t think the populations in western countries realize where their elected, and unelected, leaders are taking them…Peter Zeihan is either the perfect embodiment of the delusional “American exceptionalism” mindset, is in denial or is intentionally misleading his viewers. The people in western countries, especially Europe, are in for a very jarring wake up call. It is not a coincidence that the manufacturing heart of Europe, Germany, is starting to skip beats and Europe as a whole is in decline! The future is in the global south and that’s where the actual rulers of the world; the owners and controllers of global financialized capital, are taking their money and leaving. Capitalism needs an endless supply of babies and western nations aren’t having much of those.

[@TheAfterLifePodzKastTheAfterLi]

😅

[@kevinl8440]

Quote is completely wrong or at least very outdated. KSA has spent TRILLIONS moving their economy away from oil the last 2 decades

[@theman946]

I'll give you 70 million for your other kid.

[@ddally8851]

Yes, the Saudi were very opposed to the American invasion of Iraq because they felt that the real problem in the region was IRAN. Turns out they were right on that one.

[@WilburthePiggy666]

Real problem in the region right now is Israel

[@loki20720]

Nope. Their relaxation of the relationship with Iran in the last few years and their plans for the future indicate that Saudi Arabia has realized that the real problem in the Middle East, and the single reason why Arab countries are so divided, is - Israel. Without a US presence, Arabs, Turks, and even Persians (Iranians) will start to rely more on each other. Viewing Arabs as "people who emerged from tents and will return to living in tents" is nothing short of racism.

[@knightsnight5929]

Almost every sane person was against the Bush war for oil. Just remind us, what was the nationality of the 911 terrorist? And where did the leader of Al Qaeda come from?

[@arminius6506]

Iran wasn't a big problem until the US destroyed Iraq and Syria and created a vacuum which Iran filled and became a regional dominant power.

[@dry2dry1]

They are always right, look what's happening in the Bab al-Mandab right now.

[@A_Bunch_of_Savages]

Peter has a lot of great backdrops, but this one takes spectacular to another level.

[@stephenryder8143]

Do you know exactly where is . I googled it .can't find it .thanks

[@vagost]

I’m baffled by how little do American experts understand the Middle Eastern mentality and history.

[@ryanhughes1101]

Can you elaborate?

[@wisestcrazyboy]

Seriously it's like they live in a bubble not just the average American but this is how their politicians talk and I bet you this guy never gotten a passport

[@briantrek]

he’s white and he thinks he knows better than them and smarter than them… the a colonial mentality

[@badran6290]

True .. like this man, he oversimplified it

[@carlosnevarez4003]

The countries in the Middle East are pitted against one another and don't forget Israel. This is by design. Divide and Conquer. The Romans were good at that and sort of did the same thing in the Middle East. Yeah, the Parthians were there too, but at their height, Rome manipulated.

[@philippvoid1800]

Peter, do a video of the "pager incident"

[@azmodanpc]

Guy sure knows some CIA spooks. Word is, Israel pulled the trigger once they caught whiff that Hezbollah was getting suspicious and it was a matter of use it or lose it.

[@Emperor_Atlantis]

I only saw local news articles that they bombed themselfs 😂 what is obviously fake news, because noone is dumb enough to install fake bomb pagers on their own guys right?

[@ivancho5854]

Yup. Just for laughs. 😂

[@noahway13]

@@ivancho5854 Pagers?? This war is starting to look like "Operation Desert Storm" all over again...

[@pikachus5m166]

You mean that joint Israeli-Taiwanese collaboration?, he certainly won't reveal that much !.

[@tommyt1785]

India, EU, China, Japan all have a vested interest in keeping Saudi working. Not gonna crash.

[@careyfreeman5056]

We can supply Japan ourselves. EU has North Sea and relationships in Africa, along with US.

[@tommyt1785]

@@careyfreeman5056 everyone can still get oil, but you dont get GDP growth without cheap oil. They need Saudi for that. The US will jack up prices on Japan if they know they've got no other suppliers.

[@careyfreeman5056]

@@tommyt1785 Definitely a possibility, but hopefully we're not that dumb. Of course, it would hardly be precedent setting if we were.

[@BasePuma4007]

Good luck getting that group to cooperate on defense capabilities.

[@malconsak]

​@@BasePuma4007China can.

[@JigilJigil]

Saudi Arabia produces over 10 million barrels of oil per day, any significant disturbances in their oil produciton or export would end up with a meaningful impact on global economy, this is not going to change any time soon, the world is going to consume more oil as we go forward, and it will keep its reliance on Saudia Arabia.

[@TheMRJGREATJ]

Middle income and low income countries will consume more oil as we go forward, rich countries will convert to electricity and renewables.

[@eichelbergergary]

@@TheMRJGREATJ Sources are becoming more and more diversified overall, technically and geographically. Markets are inevitable, no matter how much governments try to suppress them.

[@12345anton6789]

What will the US consumer thinks if their government disrupts the global supply chain of energy and the oil price hits $200++ a barrel.

[@inquisitr1892]

Zeihan even says "not yet" so you're not wrong. But It seems to be sooner than you think. The US and Europe are hurtling towards alternate sources, and as he says the US has enough oil for itself and its allies anyway. So you're right it will continue, until the day it doesn't. And that day will be very sudden and surprising. And probably sooner rather than later. Not like 5 years, but not like 50 either.

[@briandorsey6437]

@@12345anton6789the US is currently pumping out more oil than ever in its history and we have a shit ton of oil across multiple massive fields we aren’t even tapping yet….Get real about reality before you speak.

[@H3LLS3NT4SS4SS1N]

I love how this travel and nature channel sometimes also dips into geopolitics as well. Such a lovely surprise!

[@lizardking3979]

What a backdrop! This man’s quality control is legendary 😊

[@ronanfel8191]

You mean all the videos where he's recording and the wind is blowing his mic to the point you can't understand him? Lmfao. I like his videos too, but stop being such a clown.

[@davebrewer7170]

Of course it is, CIA isnt going to put out crap quality videos

[@ScooterOnHisWay2024]

​@@ronanfel8191There are medications to level off your anger and self hate.

[@albuquerque412]

This guy speaks with so much conviction that you would actually think that he knows what he is talking about

[@forgetaboutit192]

he aint know shet

[@hosho187]

Yet he is far off when it comes to Saudi. The only good thing here in this video is that he quickly exposed his bad intentions to Saudi and its policy. Even though he only represents himself, it’s still an amateur move.

[@forgetaboutit192]

@@hosho187 Saudi Arabia is a disgusting and terrible country full of human rights abuses and repressive policies and they are going to plunge the world into another world war with their bulueshit rivalry with Iran. The US is evil for supporting Saudi Arabia and the genocide they have run in Yemen since 2015 is utterly reprehensible and despicable alot of it done with arms supplied by the US to slaughter hundreds of thousands of innocents and children so that MBS can look good and play conqueror and get credit for taking on Iran there. Saudi Arabia is a horrible place

[@TheebX92]

He's an evil person in real life

[@forgetaboutit192]

@@TheebX92 how do you know that. i dont think evil just stupid and arrogant

[@annehersey9895]

PETER!!! If the US has never been very dependent on Saudi Oil, WTF was I doing waiting in long lines at the gas station on odd or even days and never on Sunday in 1973-74 because of the Oil Crisis which was NOT the US crisis, it was the Middle East’s problem???

[@ALifeInSicily]

I absolutely love that you do your videos while being active in nature.

[@patrickweaver1105]

Two carriers in the Persian Gulf was never a thing. The only times we did it on a regular basis was when we were actively at war in the region. Two carriers in the Mediterranean was the policy and the only times we didn't have that was when one was in the Persian Gulf. I got to take the long boat ride around Africa in 1980 and we were the first carrier in the Persian Gulf in years. At the time nuclear powered carriers didn't use the Suez Canal.

[@zee9709]

well, zeihan does "trust me bro" quite often

[@jamesbeaman6337]

Does the Gulf of Oman counts, we just had two there together in the last month, if only for a couple of weeks. During the Iraq war, my understanding is we had multiple CVNs in the region for an extended period.

[@eichelbergergary]

don't we still have presence on island of al-Masirah off Oman coast? USA Used to fly B-52s in and out of there, and permanent forces there as well, I believe. Operated like an unsinkable aircraft carrier in the region.

[@jackshaftoe1715]

The range difference between the med, and the gulf is negligible.

[@mikhailfranco]

@@eichelbergergary Yes, modernized and runway extended. Also used to stage Operation Eagle Claw - failed rescue of US embassy hostages in Tehran. There is a new Sultan in Oman now, but he seems to be maintaining continuity with his Anglophile father (attended Sandhurst and the Brits saved him from 2 insurgencies).

[@Brenda-on7hy]

Love the scenery as much as your commentary. Live in Calgary and love mountains.

[@tinytim71301]

Gorgeous background

[@PonderousPanda]

Best part of the vid😂

[@MarkKuzel-zc1hr]

When Biden asked the Saudis to pump more they said "no."

[@jeffreysweeney5979]

Because his admin cozied up to the Iranians, enemies of Saudi Arabia

[@williamerazo3921]

For the oil markets which still dictates prices

[@TomTomicMic]

Yes Biden doesn't like MSB, but that is in the past now!?!

[@Apjooz]

Biden asked "yes way?" And they said no way.

[@TheVeritas2100]

Sleepy Joe Biden is a "joke" ... ( BTW who is running the country now ? ) Had TRUMP asked the Saudis to 'pump more' they would have ( Trump is SERIOUS and UNPREDICTABLE!) .... PERIOD, end of story !

[@surourbinabbad1133]

history shows that power isn't solely measured by military strength. For instance, during the Yom Kippur War in 1973, the Arab nations, especially the Gulf states led by Saudi Arabia, imposed an “oil embargo” on the U.S. and other countries supporting Israel, which caused a global economic crisis and skyrocketing oil prices. This move demonstrated that oil was a powerful tool and forced major countries like the U.S. to reconsider their foreign policies toward the Middle East. Then, during the 1979 oil crisis, the U.S. and the world faced another disruption when the Iranian Revolution reduced oil production, making it clear how crucial the stability of the Gulf and Iran was for the global economy. These events show that the Gulf states are not easily controlled; they play a central role in the global economic and political balance. Oil was not just a source of energy but a strategic weapon that influenced decisions of even the world's superpowers." This response highlights the economic and political strength of the Gulf countries and how oil has been a powerful tool in dealing with global powers like the U.S.

[@fuzzyspackage]

Try that now, weaksuace.

[@fuzzyspackage]

Ruzzia tried💀

[@nv7287]

Energy self-sufficiency is becoming a strategic priority for many nations need to maintain complex and often politically fraught relationships with oil-producing nations will likely decrease.Oil's diminishing strategic importance threatens the leverage of oil-producing nations, potentially sparking internal unrest as their ability to control dissent through economic means weakens. Plus that and eventually the oil will run out ...

[@allenschmitz9644]

Yea brick is here.😅

[@Indrid__Cold]

I don't get it. I thought that the sour crude from Saudi Arabia was still necessary because the US refineries don't get along with light-sweet crude? That's why the US has become such a big EXPORTER of light sweet crude such that we have this complex oil transport "square dance" that keeps all the thousands of tankers at sea. Now you are pretty much describing the exact opposite and I'm confused.

[@jdotsalter910]

Nailed it.

[@HellBot-gi5si]

We have never imported Saudi oil, we we started to import oil from 1979 it was from Canada and some from Venezuela. We can take Saudi oil but we don't need it. That was for our allies.

[@NCM-xy8ow]

Source other than Zeihan?​@@HellBot-gi5si

[@LRRPFco52]

There is plenty of crude from other countries to throw into the blend at US refineries, which have always been in high demand around the clock. Priority scheduling is highly sought after because of time value of money.

[@LRRPFco52]

Top oil producers: US Saudi Russia Canada Iraq Brazil UAE Iran Kuwait

[@simonolsen9995]

It was worth keeping focus until the very end. Finished with a zinger for history nerds!

[@andrewmcalister3462]

Yeah, I noticed that one. Hopefully film buffs will pick up on it as well.

[@martyr84]

Absolute ass backwards he got it. Saudi lived without oil before. Its the US who can’t live without oil. Hell they are struggling with one of the worse inflation periods in US history while oil is only 70$.

[@jakob27]

Great post Peter.

[@nssr4031]

🤣🤣🤣 I love sarcasm

[@danielwnorowski2553]

Very interesting presentation

[@kp5602]

Another Peter Zeihan Saudi Arabia Collapse prediction, don’t worry guys im sure the 10th times the charm. Hey Peter after this one can you update your China Collapse prediction? i know you say 2020 back in the day but we need to push it to 2030 now thanks

[@MarkDenmark-nz2pz]

This guy really dont know how much Saudi Arabia is the keystone in the area for it’s financial and religious status. It has huge influence on Egypt politics , Egypt, the biggest country in the area, also on Iraq , Kuwait, UAE and Qatar. Most importantly, the relatively friendly position of Saudi Arabia with Israewl is making huge help to balance the area. Any change in Saudi Arabia would change the middle east forever. Trust me .

[@WorldTravelerCooking]

I think that the growing dependence on Chinese energy on Iran and Russia is likely to make this far harder. A larger issue is that the US is dependent on buying oil on the market and so cutting Saudi Arabia off would make oil more expensive in the US unless these resources are nationalized. We already saw that with the Russian oil sanctions.

[@Matthew-rp3jf]

Yeah, the US needs to leave the middle east altogether. Opec can sit and spin.

[@Bigbudd0045]

We would, but aipac.

[@zee9709]

problem is, US arm industry like money, don't think they gonna leave

[@sixfiftyfive2386]

@@Bigbudd0045incorrect... clearly very ignorant

[@danielmcguire7344]

​@@sixfiftyfive2386it's not when you consider how many congressmen have dual citizenship with Israel. Also, aipac is a very powerful lobbying force in congress. They specifically ran a candidate to oppose a pro Palestine candidate in New York this year and won.

[@Acidfox86]

@@danielmcguire7344stop trying to bring the Jews into an Arab problem. Can you Arabs ever have an issue that the Jews aren’t responsible for?

[@BillWalters77]

Your final comment on Turkey was eye-opening. Thanks

[@jijiipetti1433]

Totally not feasible in this era. Circumstances are far different that they were during the Ottoman Empire. See my reply to another comment about this. In sum, it would necessitate a regional conflict far surpassing any modern one thus far. It would also most likely be against Iran or possibly Israel. In either case Turkey and the Gulf states would be allies of a sort. Turkey is also not a naval power and has no need to conquer the Peninsula. Scenarios would involve war in Syria or Iraq or both, on its borders. It's air force is decent but not such that it has much to divert from protection to conquest.

[@NoneNone-wz5ul]

@@jijiipetti1433 "Turkey is also not a naval power". Everything looks weak compared to US I get it. But, no naval power?

[@calvingrondahl1011]

I no longer backpack into the mountains so thanks for your mountain pod casts. Salute from Utah.

[@daniellepatrioticexpat1022]

Me too. Im in the flat and below sea level Netherlands.

[@danielthomas5057]

disabused is one of the best words in the world

[@jodu626]

Turkey keeps coming up time and time again. very interesting times.

[@jamesholden8256]

Yeah, since the Bronze Age. I think that whole Anatolia region just might be important to world affairs.

[@TomTomicMic]

Turkey doesn't have the economy to support a major war, less so than Russia, taking over Iraq (Or part of it) then Saudi seems a step too far in the short term and they are bound to have problems trying to govern the region(s), better to give them a long term security guarantee and let them pay for the invasion by stealth!?!

[@jodu626]

@@jamesholden8256 I think the state of Turkey is about to have a finger in everyone’s pie in that area. gonna get fruity i reckon

[@TheHaroGroup]

Make Turkey Armenia and Greece again.

[@laturnich9507]

I for one welcome our new Neo-Ottoman overlords

[@jimmartin7437]

Keep em coming cause we love your work

[@williamflack6691]

Regardless of our domestic energy needs, wouldn't the USA be cutting off its nose to spite its face if we abandoned the Saudis as an ally? Seems prudent to me that the US maintain our 'friendly' ties with Saudi Arabia as you never know what the future holds.

[@mkvenner2]

Once the oil is gone they are dead weight

[@amizuki]

@@mkvenner2 are you talking about the Saudis here? American oil supplies will run out way before Saudi will

[@robinpage2730]

The Saudis were never an ally. They've always been a useful resource, nothing more.

[@williamflack6691]

@@mkvenner2 That oil won't disappear in the foreseeable future

[@atrlawes98]

@@williamflack6691The oil wont disappear for the foreseeable, but the need for it will. America already doesn’t need it, other major US allies are transitioning away from it or moving to different suppliers. The only other factor is that the Saudi’s could strangle the Red Sea if they needed to, I think the days of Suez being a reliable trade route are dying.

[@landontesar3070]

I like the backdrop of the 'gulf', 'divide' between Peter and the next mountain over

[@asasbs1411]

Peter Zeihan is emotional when talks about Saudi Arabia. probably it's the time of the month.

[@davidschaufus7856]

always enjoy hearing your educated views on world and local issues

[@nicholasmaude6906]

Are you going to do a video about the exploding Pagers in Lebanon?

[@isscaibnzehra8717]

That was a terrorist attack

[@stefanpettersson1914]

Thanks for interesting geopolitic analysis!

[@michaelpuente3352]

I feel sorry for the people that think this guys knows wth he’s actually talking about. This is why this country is at a breaking point for grossly underestimating others. Go back and listen to what he was saying about China in 2008 and then what he was saying about Russia when the war broke out in Ukraine.

[@rayal4395]

Literally thinking that. Was looking for someone who understands in the comments. He thought Russia would break into several pieces with regional war lords ruling each piece. And that NATO would defeat Ru55ia! Dude has an oversized ego and a n overactive imagination!

[@kevindanforth3277]

Russia is in its death blows, We a Russian leader has no way out he attacks the country next him. If Nato puts 10% of it strength behind Ukraine the Russian line would collapse. This would go one of two ways, nukes and the end of Putin or the collapse of Russia and the end of Putin. Either case, it is the end of Putin and Russia as we know it.

[@MarkDenmark-nz2pz]

Man seriously he know no thing about the region.

[@evranirnek]

that "AGAIN" in the end got me lmao

[@crosslink1493]

I'm wonder why Mr. Zeihan downplays China in these videos about Middle East status. They are involved with the Iranians, but also with the Saudis (and the UAE) as they keep buying a good quantity of crude oil to fuel their thirst for energy. Maybe he should have thrown in a bit on why the Chinese aren't doing more for military port access and their PLA Navy isn't rotating more ships over to the waters in that area (Hormuz, Gulf of Oman, Red Sea, etc).

[@playea123]

It’s true that the Chinese navy just isn’t up to task with what the Saudi’s would want (they are used to the US navy after all). However, Peter is mainly a writer and speaker who needs to give his audience what they want to hear. Since his audience is mainly American, that means downplaying any external threats and competitors. Understand what you are getting and you won’t be disappointed. Peter isn’t some truth seeker who only reports completely factual things

[@ikp4success]

China oil is from Iran.

[@careyfreeman5056]

1. They can't. 2. They don't want to (they saw our adventures). 3. It would force them to commit to something, which they don't like to do, with no promise of a return and the real potential to add yet another mess to the basketful of messes they're already dealing with. Which is EXACTLY why we should pull out and leave both the CCP and Saudis swinging in the wind.

[@lijackson-x6r]

@@careyfreeman5056 You are right. China buys Saudi oil, and Saudi Arabia lets China to build infrastructure, such as installing solar power plants and building railways. In return, Saudi Arabia invests China with oil refining and fertilizer production, in addition, Saudi Arabia invests in China's new energy vehicle industry too. it is said , Saudi Arabia is the major shareholder of NIO EV.

[@lijackson-x6r]

@@careyfreeman5056 It does not need to create conflicts in Middle east to maximum the profits from military weapon sales, because China does not want to make money from weapon sales.

[@larryhammond5907]

What about the peteo-dollar part of the deal? All Saudi oil must be purchased with USD, so everyone has to buy USD to buy Saudi oil. Which really props up the value of the USD and let's them run massive deficits without the currency devaluation other countries would face if they do the same. So what happens to the USD if the Petro Dollar standard falls?

[@khalilh8182]

Correct me if I’m wrong but wasn’t USA dependent on Saudi oil at the beginning? Since it was much easier to extract oil than anywhere else. Which is why the oil crises affected USA and which led USA to invest in its own oil sector and infrastructure

[@N561LB]

Yes, you are wrong.

[@knoll9812]

Good question. Where did USA get oil before shale.

[@khalilh8182]

@@knoll9812 Alaska ? And before that was Iran?

[@khalilh8182]

@@N561LB so why did USA get badly affected by the oil crisis?

[@N561LB]

@@khalilh8182 In the US most of the oil comes from Canada, Texas, California, and Alaska. Only about 5% of the crude from the Middle East gets on our markets. Mexico and Venezuela are also supplying us with oil.

[@gutstompenrocker]

Peter, you ever fish those streams while passing thru the areas? Caught some nice trout from them while I used to live locally. Got up so high the cutthroat wouldn't hit on anything artificial. Had to rip the spinner off and just use the fly to keep from getting skunked one time. The ice clinging to my pole might have had something to do with it.

[@ross.venner]

I have only been addressed by a royal prince once. I was a cadet at Royal Air Force College Cranwell. I entered the bar of the junior mess, and sitting at the bar nursing a drink was the senior cadet supervising us juniors. Our home, not his... His Royal Highness Prince xxx Sultan glanced at me, "... put on a record." Now, there were only two records in the pile that I liked. One was the theme to Lawrence of Arabia. I chose the other, The Student Prince. Then, having obeyed his order, I left. Probably the only Saudi, (royal or otherwise) who ever spoke to me. It left an abiding bad impression.

[@InimitaPaul]

I met lots of Saudi princes in London back in the 00’s and never met a single one I’d willingly meet again, several I’d actually consider to be evil of mind, one or two evil of action and I don’t say that lightly.

[@george2113]

To the camels they shall return

[@noahway13]

@@InimitaPaul He did a slick humble/brag = )

[@isunlloaoll]

It still baffles me why the Anglo-American empire allowed these desert tribes to thrive. Post WW2, all of Arabia was still under British/ American rule, and these rich Arab states were just a bunch of tribes and villages with tiny populations. Now, the whole region is a mess, and America is pulling out.

[@abdihakimjama1556]

@@isunlloaollWhat would have been the alternative? Taking their resources? Suppressing them?

[@rcak2009]

You always have the greatest spots.

[@factcheck9849]

Your opinion is more stereotype. Saudi Arabia is doing great🇸🇦 One thing, they open up benefitial relation with China and others. Second, Saudi Arabia is diversify its economy and focus on localize military industry. You have to admit, this is great for the people and the country.

[@guylocation9823]

There is no Saudi arabia ! Only a vassel country of camel herders with oil. Without the us there is no saudi

[@jamesmarsh7367]

Look dude, Arabia has only one thing to offer the world and that is oil. Oh yea, also financing Terrorism too. Also it's Arabia, not Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are the royal family. They absolutely don't deserve to out their name if front of the country's name. It's Arabia.

[@buceoApulmon]

Good luck transforming Saudi Arabia into a science and technology hub while maintaining Wahabism in power.. The Wahabis are the kind of people who would have you beheaded if you defend the scientific method and don't believe in magic/fairytales. The only reason the Saudi currently have access to technology is because they sell oil and can therefore import and pay competent engineers from the US, India and China.. in a deglobalized World, their "modern" society would collapse within, decades.. There is a reason why US crazy evangelists, ultra Orthodox Jews or Salafist muslims are not the best when it comes to developping science and technology..

[@buceoApulmon]

Societies who hold the belief that the Theories of Darwin or Einstein (or science in general) are a bunch of hoaxes do not perform well in scientific development.. If you are a bright scientist born in one of these societies, if you love science and don't want to be murdered for stating that the Universe was not created in 7 days, you typically end up leaving, to go to work in a more progressive country..

[@PrimetimeX]

Saudi Arabia signed a peace deal with Iran brokered by China on the condition that the Houthis disarm. Turns out, Iran lied and now the Houthis have been firing missiles across Saudi airspace into Israel and the Bab Al-Mandeb strait. So now, the Saudis are beginning to turn to the United States again because of fears that Iran will use their control of two major oil shipping chokepoints to squeeze the Saudis out.

[@lesliemateka4193]

Great analysis. Lov.e listening. So much sense

[@DLYChicago]

Don't under rate desert power. It was decisively influential on Arrakis.

[@docjaramillo]

Always informative and the straight talk is always appreciated… how many nights last year did PZ sleep outside?

[@LoneWolf-wp9dn]

Im old enough to have lived through several waves of "saudi arabia will break up next year"

[@orboakin8074]

True but there's some merit to it. I remember some Emirate guy saying " My grandfather rode a camel. My father drove a car. I drive an SUV. My son drives a sports car. But my grandson will ride a camel" I am paraphrasing but I believe it is clear that even they know their society is not viable in the long-run

[@oldschoolben438]

Yes but reaching peak oil is actually possible now, and once we’re on the reverse slope…

[@LoganChristianson]

I didn't hear Peter mention anywhere in the video that they would break up?

[@trplankowner3323]

@@oldschoolben438 Peak oil has nothing to do with it. You're not listening.

[@trplankowner3323]

And I'm old enough to realize that ANY actual power that wants to take Saudi Arabia can do so as soon as there is no one else to stop them. In other words: No US protection = No SA.

[@sonnymachel]

You make it sound so clear cut for the geopolitical future of the US. Good luck

[@martinlagrange8821]

Excellent - a fellow fan of 'Syriana' - a film that filled in a lot of blanks, and pulled no punches. And, it seems, 'Lawrence of Arabia' in the post-script.

[@finddeniro]

Chilling..

[@jerryrichardson2799]

I just bought a digital (cheap) copy of _Syriana,_ it's a great movie I saw at the theater when it came out. Of course, _Lawrence of Arabia_ is also great.

[@jerryrichardson2799]

I bought _Syriana_ recently and, of course, _Lawrence of Arabia_ is a classic. The _only_ good thing you can say about MBS is he seems to be trying to avoid the dilemma Peter discussed here.

[@benlangford34]

Love learning US 🇺🇸 geography from Pete …

[@jijiipetti1433]

Any "analysis" of Saudi Arabia without including a dive into Iran, and thus also Israel, is superficial at best or purposefully excludes the top threat the Saudis face, to promote their point. It would be surprising from a geopolitical expert so it can only be deliberate. Unless the expert is a bit of a showman. Peter excels at this sort of great sounding but surface exposition. Saudi has a strategic importance that is more than just the oil in the region. Trade is vital to Europe and Asia. Way before oil, the Brits and the French colonized seperate sides of the Bab El Mandeb. Yemen is a basketcase and given its mountainous and desert terrain, no outside power has ever controlled more than 40 some % of it in modern times. The Yemenis can hardly maintain a unified country and are still in a civil war from 2011. The other side of the Red Sea in Africa is worse with ongoing war in Sudan, frequent conflict in Eritrea and Ethiopia and around the corner Somalia. Djibouti is a potential WW flashpoint. That China AND Japan have their only overseas naval bases there, highlights just how important this trade route remains. (Around Africa is still costly and takes too long.)

[@Houthiandtheblowfish]

lol you must be gulf person

[@nathanschuller1659]

Fascinating .. I never realized the point that the US always needed that oil not necessarily for themselves, but for their allies in globalization in order to fight the Cold War.. thank you for educating me again Peter 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@Tallsnap6]

Just curious. You don’t think that India would be willing to step in and provide Naval security for a desperate Saudi Arabia? I imagine that India would love to have an oil supplier that was highly dependent on them.

[@ikp4success]

They already buy at a discount from Russia

[@Marcg-b4n]

😂 India navy...

[@jijiipetti1433]

Saudi's historic, cultural, religious and military ally is Pakistan.There are many economic ties to India in the Gulf but not the same. Similarl in most of the smaller Gulf states. A large portion of Omanis are ethnically Baluch, originally from Pakistan. Although the seperatist movement in Baluchistan has grown hot recently.

[@VTh-f5x]

Dont ask peter to think that hard. His brain will melt away along with his storytelling. 😂😂😂

[@frankalbergo8120]

Excellent info, thanks Man.

[@12345anton6789]

The Arabs in the Persian gulf are more than capable to develop their oilfields by them self. They have no problem in buying the technology from Asia whom are by far the no1 in offshore rigs/production facilities. Large oil/gas importers like china, Japan, India and South Korea are more than happy to give a helping hand if it means cheaper energy

[@knoll9812]

USA and Europe has the technology and the others buy from them. Russia didn't depend on western technology because they were pro west.

[@remaalhamaad7843]

Arabian Gulf*

[@billyrio3767]

Arabs do not do servile labor and suffer severe lack of mechanical skills.

[@douglassun8456]

8:15: Well, yes. But I remember Jim Dunnigan being fond of quoting what he cited as an old Ottoman saying: "Never get involved in the affairs of the Arabs." And I can't imagine the Arabs willingly returning to Ottoman rule.

[@michaeltaylor6782]

I don't agree with Mr Zeihan on a lot of things but he does make me think. If someone makes me think then that person is worth listening to.

[@tachikaze222]

Likewise, I think's all wet on EVs but he's 100X smarter than I am so I gotta respect that (and I have a Poli-Sci / CS degree)

[@michaellane1316]

This gives PZ the opportunity to broadcast speculation with uncertain limitation of value. As I've mentioned before, the carrot today has some sugar and that's what keeps us following that carrot. Creative mind manipulation gives way to insights or forecasts of human behavior. The real deal is.........our species is very predictable, history has logged that very effectively for us. We are addicted to our own demise.....

[@davebrewer7170]

He represents the CIA. Always a good plan to understand what the CIA is trying to push as propaganda

[@michaeltaylor6782]

@@michaellane1316 I disagree with the last part of your statement. Maybe it was ironic, I don't know. What I do know is we can disagree like adults on here, unlike a lot of other platforms and to me that's a good thing. Just because I disagree with someone doesn't mean I'm right.

[@careyfreeman5056]

@@tachikaze222 Except his position makes the most sense. The truth is always somewhere in the middle and that's pretty much his position (and mine) on EVs and alternatives in general. Use them where they work and find alternatives where they don't. The solution isn't all of one thing at the expense of the other. Solar in Germany IS stupid!

[@stevepolychronoplous4581]

It’s amazing how things so often come full circle.

[@pittsburghmcconnell]

"Again"....!! Excellent point

[@metokyo4960]

😂

[@a_z_771]

Me: *clicking on this video* Him: “the persian gulf” Me: “aight i’ma head out”

[@MeMe009ksa]

As an American, I get angry that Americans are the least cultured about other countries, so there are a lot of videos and comments mocking the fact that Americans do not understand anything and do not like to learn about world news and their culture, and the proof is this person!! Oh my God, I just came back from Saudi Arabia and I can tell you that it is not a desert as the TV told you a hundred years ago (which seems that you stopped keeping up with new things since then). I found myself as if I was in New York!! In more than one city, there is something unbelievable, how developed they are and how they live in prosperity and security, which we have come to miss greatly here. Read carefully and search before you speak, because here there are over 800 thousand people following you, do not mock them, please

[@earlhildebrand]

I have a feeling that the bond will grow even deeper

[@IanHobday]

The US didn't want the oil from the Middle East, but the US wanted all oil to be priced in USD. That pushed the USD into the role of global reserve currency and ultimately resulted in the US' power and wealth today.

[@jovelo902]

No, usd became the global reserve currency in 1944, 30 years before the petrodollar deal. It became the petrodollar because it was the reserve currency, not the other way around. And also because the US was the only credible security guarantor for the Saudis.

[@chillxxx241]

Not true at all. The US became the world’s most dominant economy sometime after the Civil War between 1868-1898. All this other nonsense is just fanciful thinking from people who hope the US order will fail and America will collapse when it does. It is a dangerous conclusion that doesn’t make much historical sense.

[@1wun1]

​@@jovelo902 And replacing the gold standard earlier on.

[@pavolhorvath7850]

You got it the other way around. It's not the US who wants to pay for oil with dollars. It's the oil producers, who want dollars for their oil, because all other currencies are basically worthless.

[@HellBot-gi5si]

It doesn't matter any more. You see because of NAFTA America, Canada, and Mexico is now 1/3 of the entire world economy. There is no currency that can handle the volume of trade. So most people still just price it US dollar because their local currency is worthless or just to teeny tiny to be worth anything and no one wants to buy anything from small countries that really don't have any manufacturing.

[@beausmith7797]

Peter's video's always end with a banger..!

[@jijiipetti1433]

It's a formula. Like the end of every chapter of a Dan Brown page turner. It works for many.

[@nHautamaki]

Why wouldn't the Saudis just develop nuclear weapons as a security guarantee in this event? Why wouldn't everyone? Isn't nuclear non proliferation the real reason the US acts as a security guarantor for half the world? Doesn't that go out the window and we wind up with 50 nuclear armed states immediately after the US decides to become a 'disruptor' rather than a stabilizer?

[@Tallsnap6]

Because they don’t have the scientists to make them or the military structure to control them and they’re afraid of building a capable military, because that could overthrow the Royal Family.

[@vis5889]

exactly. peter seems to just ignore this danger and pretend like it's no big deal if every country in the middle east becomes a north korea. he even pretends to think iran isn't capable of producing a nuclear detonator.

[@JinKee]

MBS spoke on that. He said that nuclear weapons were evil and nobody should have them, but if his enemies got nuclear weapons then he would be compelled to have them.

[@navinadv]

They don’t need to develop nuclear weapons. The moment the US steps out of the role it is playing now, China will most happily step into the same role. Granted they don’t have the same level of military expertise or even a navy as large as the US but they have enough to keep all other countries in the region barring Japan and maybe India in check. They have 3 aircraft carriers longer than 300m and are believed to be building 3-5 more. If Saudi Arabia and the US move apart then what happens to the Petro-Dollar? As it is the US has a $34T accumulated deficit. If they lose they position as the default trade currency in a commodity as vital as oil would that not also affect their overall economic leverage?

[@takeflightfinance644]

@@navinadv There is no viable replacement for the dollar. By the time there is the world will likely only be using 25% of the oil it is now.

[@staciej2580]

Thanks.

[@razt3757]

Have you ever encountered like a bear or some shit like that while trying to film lol?

[@watershed8685]

We’ve seen a mountain goat recently, so I guess he defines did encounter “some shit”

[@man_at_the_end_of_time]

Likely safer than a street corner in Seattle or Tacoma.

[@michaellane1316]

And......they don't do geopolitics.....😄

[@guymann4016]

“Like a bear”

[@seraph3761]

I’ve been where he’s at and animals just leave you be. Sometimes in the morning a small/medium bear will be looking for food early in the morning. If you keep it secured you’re fine.

[@walterdolen7169]

Outside of the economic and political info you provide, I love the views you present during your hiking adventures. Do you have hiking buddies or do you mostly hike by yourself?

[@jc2604]

This man might have a hiking "problem"

[@robstone4537]

This is a hiking channel with an international news spin to it.

[@RJL_UK]

Can you get treatment for that?

[@markkondilis9237]

He doesn't have a problem! He can stop whenever he wants...and sit next to bunch of freshly cut logs.

[@george2113]

It looks like enjoyable exercise, he can afford to be where the weather is nice

[@michaellane1316]

We all have our addictions.....

[@winnie796]

Thank you

[@ABN_Youtube]

So you deleted my comment?! Thats very weak of you

[@danconnolly9584]

always good

[@Yakitak]

Saudi does not need expats nearly as much as they once did. Saudi has a much stronger workforce now.

[@knoll9812]

Still not self sufficient. Problem is that jobs go to Toadies and not competent . Saudi now has 18 million people mostly unemployed. Many are unqualified and only accept execyjobs.

[@Yakitak]

@@knoll9812nope… not even close to true. Learn more about Saudi Arabia today.

[@dennisclapp7527]

Thanks Peter

[@Khyberization]

The delusions of US experts is staggering. There is so much wrong here I'm shocked people listen to him.

[@jasonozzy8655]

They are jealous hypocrites

[@eddieazimi5865]

@@Khyberization this guy says china is on the brink of collapse for years now, yet every index shows china is just growing ( other than population), and BRICS hasn’t even gone into full effect yet.

[@ernestcote3398]

Vapid words if you don't provide reason(s) why.

[@danielgrayling5032]

Now name the things that are wrong and support your claim with evidence.

[@Khyberization]

​@@ernestcote3398Not sure why you weren't tagged.

[@KevTheImpaler]

We used to sell military kit to the Saudis when we still had a defence industry worthy of the name. We even sold them some Tornado F3s.

[@alimuratakkan]

There is a Turkish proverb: don’t remind the donkey of the watermelon rind. I don’t want my country to have anything to do on another country’s land

[@ROBOROBOROBOROBO]

Then you are a fool. Good for Turkey that you aren’t in charge. When energy markets get interrupted, you either have to directly annex Mosul & Kirkuk or have a relationship with Saudis that resembles your Ottoman colonial past.

[@bj6515]

It is a wise choice if you can stick to it.

[@ticktock3152]

Turks have a long history of the opposite.

[@xandr13]

@@ticktock3152 Many do. It's what they're doing now that matters.

[@ChrisBarber-b2r]

Turkey is another enemy of the Western world.

[@MeepBottoms]

Hope you're doing well and healthy.

[@burlix2002]

I think u underestimate China and overestimate Turkey.

[@crawkn]

It's refreshing to hear Peter acknowledge "a lot of rounding errors and caveats" in a statement.

[@WTF00007]

One of your best videos yet painting a dire prophecy for that godforsaken hate filled region

[@careyfreeman5056]

Start the popcorn! I've been waiting my whole life for this.

[@TomTomicMic]

It was always forecast as going to end up that way since I was a lad 50 years ago and nothing much has advanced in the region since, it appears the majority religion is holding it back and will return it to its old ways fairly shortly after the money runs out, and I think a hundred years might be on the optimistic side!?!

[@scrout]

​@@TomTomicMicforecast is 1 million degrees....💥

[@VTh-f5x]

America jumping from fentanyl addiction to copium.😂

[@MarkKuzel-zc1hr]

Thanks for the knowledge Peter.

[@malconsak]

More like ignorance. Cuz he ain't say nothing that is relevant in real time.

[@cipbob89]

I remember when I had the wireline borehole academy in the middle east. A bunch of saudi kids as my colleagues with "university degrees" in oil and gas....for them to pass the exams...they had already the results. Absolutely useless, 0 skills whatsoever before and after the academy.

[@charmquark6366]

Privileged people don’t like to get their hands dirty… They would have been better off doing IT!

[@wyominghome4857]

Ciprian, my husband held a similar job years ago and had the same reaction. Every response from the Arab students - Saudis, Jordanians, Kuwaitis, etc. - was a word salad that demonstrated no understanding of logic and ended with "which proves my point that Israel has no right to exist." The one exception were the Moroccans, one of whom gave a thoughtful presentation after the class ended that included warm comments about his Arab and Israeli friends. That took guts.

[@wolf9945]

?????😂😂

[@wolf9945]

​@@wyominghome4857??😂

[@arktseytlin]

​@@wyominghome4857Moroccans are very different

[@iTuber012]

About damn time.

[@wolf9945]

❤🇸🇦❤

[@obbayazit]

Turkey appears to be developing a blue-water navy and expanding its base in Qatar to include naval assets. Interestingly, Saudi Arabia seems to be improving relations with Turkey through weapons deals worth billions of dollars. This raises the possibility that in the future, not only smaller Gulf countries but also Saudi Arabia might rely on Turkey for military support. Additionally, with the potential improvement in relations with Egypt and the Turkish navy's presence in Libya, Somalia and possibly other African countries, it seems that at least some portions of global trade could pass through Turkish-protected areas.

[@rahfx5485]

@6:04 this is why an American relationship with Iran is important. Not saying we allow them the capacity to develop a nuclear arsenal, but having the Iranians cut the tap on the Chinese with just a word saves the naval assets, and likely establishes a strong incentive against a Chinese invasion of Taiwan.

[@careyfreeman5056]

Undoing 1953 is going to be a tough task. Arguably the worst foreign policy decision in US History and for easily the worse reasons (BP/Dulles & Dulles profits).

[@victorchen9170]

Why shouldn't they have the ability to develop a nuclear arsenal?

[@PrimetimeX]

@@victorchen9170 because they will immediately lob it into Israel killing hundreds of thousands of people. Iran is not a stable regime. 35% of the country boycotted the recent election, and even then the most reform candidate who was permitted to run won. This signals a growing instability in the country.

[@stephenwalton2633]

Just love the scenery.

[@thelegion_within]

the middle east has always been of shaky ground (metaphorically) - there's not much there unless you're interested in sand or oil an the oil reserves are finite - it will eventually cease to be economically viable to tap that reserve. the Saudi's (and the UAE as a whole) needs to divest away from petroleum asap, maybe switch to solar power production/export if they want to stay in the international energy market, but anything else at this point. if they dont their economies will be in freefall... and, like Peter says, the Saudi's are largely reliant on ex-pat oilfield workers - they have next to no domestic capability to export crude oil.

[@careyfreeman5056]

They've chosen to ruin golf and buy soccer/football teams instead. Oh, and build linear cities in the desert. Get the popcorn ready. This is going to be fun.

[@Nylon_riot]

Their biggest problem is still water. This is why they are trying to bolster their economy in strange ways with entertainment and tourism. If they could get access to a decent water supply, they could become an agriculture powerhouse.

[@careyfreeman5056]

@@Nylon_riot Very true. Most people don't realize that deserts actually have productive soil due to the lack of rain. That said, I have ZERO faith in the Saudis to pull this off.

[@CookRacingUK]

A few takeaways from this, but the main one I'm not going to lie, (and from previous videos) is I now want to visit the Yosemite National Park 😍

[@ABN_Youtube]

Your bias against Saudi Arabia is blatant, and I won’t stay silent on it. There are six points where your argument falls apart, and I’m about to break them down. 1. “All that’s left is a desert country with internal violence.” This is pure ignorance and prejudice. Saudi Arabia is the largest economy in the Middle East, the leader of the Arab world, and a major player in global geopolitics. The notion of internal violence is outdated; the country enjoys strong internal security. You’re clinging to stereotypes that have no basis in the current reality. 2. “The U.S. doesn’t need Saudi oil anymore, so Saudi Arabia is irrelevant.” Wrong. Oil is a global commodity. Even if the U.S. doesn’t need Saudi oil, the world does. Disrupting Saudi oil would cause global instability, affecting everyone-including the U.S. Saudi Arabia is still essential to global energy stability. 3. “Saudi Arabia relies on foreign expertise and could be crippled without U.S. support. Laughable. Aramco is the world’s most valuable company, leading in technological and operational expertise. Saudi Arabia is diversifying under Vision 2030. They’re not dependent on the U.S. like you suggest. 4. “The U.S. could embargo Saudi oil or disrupt their export terminals.” Absurd. Such a move would backfire globally. U.S. allies depend on Saudi oil, and Saudi Arabia could retaliate by cutting output, causing a crisis. The U.S. can’t afford that. 5. “Saudi Arabia views the U.S. as a mercenary force.” Outdated. Saudi Arabia has built up its own military and formed partnerships globally. The relationship is about mutual interests, not dependency.** 6. “Saudi Arabia’s options for defense are dwindling.” Nonsense. The Kingdom is strengthening ties with countries like China, India, and Russia. The U.S. isn’t walking away, and Saudi Arabia isn’t helpless. Their defense options are far from limited. Your analysis is full of bias and outdated assumptions. Saudi Arabia isn’t the powerless nation you try to paint it as.

[@careyfreeman5056]

I love how every one of your "refutations" is pure opinion not backed up by a single fact, but by Saudi PR statements. You bent the knee to the Houthis. You have no military to speak of. As he mentions, we can supply key allies. If your oil stops flowing, China takes the biggest hit. And China simply can't provide the security you need. It's going to be so fun watching you go down!

[@wolf9945]

My man 👍

[@kevinl8440]

1. Aramco merely contracts all work to foreigners. Labor to Paks and Bangledeshis, expertise to Westerners mainly Americans and British. 2. KSA military while well funded is a complete joke and totally incompetent and useless. Worse most useless soldiers in the world. Anyone in the world who has trained with them can attest to that.

[@knoll9812]

Saudi is biggest economy and influencer because if oil wealth. Without oil wealth it doesn't have much. Aramco is successful but Saudi has huge numbers of expat experts. Agree that USA as disrupter is crazy. Why would USA disrupt the world.

[@jijiipetti1433]

I could debate with you on the merits and strengths and weaknesses of all these points and more. But in refuting Peter's extremely shallow and also outdated and ill-informed analysis, I generally concur. I have made several observations in various comments and replies here that you would probably also debate me on. But they are also points he failed to address or knows little of. I do have to say for the others reading, your points are reflective of a staunch loyalty to the current regime and especially MBS. Keep in mind, even those who are not US democrats, liberals, Biden, Obama or Clinton supporters, nor readers of the Washington Post, NYTimes or MSM followers have little clue that MBS if quite popular in Saudi. The democrats befuddle their perception of Saudi with their hatred of Trump and conservatives are often caught up in the clash of civilizations between Islam and the West. Few on either side appreciate the vast changes in Saudi over the last decade and the rise of the new generations.

[@personzorz]

About time

[@greendsnow]

Guess which industrial country is the closest to the Middle Eastern oil: Turkey.

[@TomTomicMic]

Guess which one that Peter mentioned is the most incompetent!?!

[@ryankline1164]

Since when is Turkey considered a manufacturing country?

[@greendsnow]

@@ryankline1164 look at the trademap

[@VTh-f5x]

Wrong. There is one country that is barely 1000 miles away and can lock down the Arabian sea on 4hrs notice.

[@Eternalamon]

WOW! last minute was powerful!