The future of super kingdoms [also black friday deals] Call of Dragons

[@CharizardEX1]

The top G1 alliances before this recent KvK were NOIR, BDO, ECHO and EIS. NOIR and EIS put themselves at an advantage through diplomacy and won their seasons but both servers lost power and players. The two servers that had good fights BDO and ECHO have actually gained more fighters and are growing. Chisgule is 100% correct that the top kingdoms are shifting away from focusing on wins and going for great fights.

[@oliviergroleaubelanger2343]

@CharizardEX1 i don't see where bdo had "good fights" xD was boring as fk

[@alexhotti3780]

chisgule I somewhat agree with your take on where the game will go in the future, but you also have to keep in mind that majority of the players in this game are f2p or low spenders. you can´t possibly justify killing off more than 50k inf a season once you`ve reached t5 in all 5 troop types + converted all units, per season, because you will only be able to train that amount per season. of course this is different for mid and high spend, but those just don´t make up the majority of this game

[@motu4554]

His point is about top tier alliances. Which even the F2P players will be able to get way more troops in a season than 50k. Smaller and less competitive alliances will have lower or no dead troops requirements and be more F2P friendly.

[@Mathurian]

You get several hundred k troops for free, just through free training, not even including using the gems and speedups you get from free events

[@awnxyep3083]

Hmm we have over 1 million dead troops each season lol

[@compdogg94]

It'd be interested to see the numbers. Rok has a ton of f2p players too. It is also the majority of the game (f2p/low spend). Yeah the attraction is free healing for this game but I mean you can trade for in rok which is like mana here so not everything is more f2p friendly here. The other side of the coin is that dead troops is actually good for f2p lol who gains troops faster f2p or whales?? If no one is losing troops the gap between f2p and whales will only increase. Whales get way more deads so it keeps their power in balance

[@scarxface8108]

I'm F2P and with all the rewards from chests, events and gifts to buy, you compensate for the loss of troops, don't forget that the % of dead troops will have a relationship with your total power

[@raidertraiter3953]

Not alot people have the ability to spend to have dead troops, having a dead troop requirement only works if the whole alliance is pay to win, free to play and low spenders will have to move away because they simply dont have the troops to be thrown away, this is a rule for alliances with only people that spend.

[@justkidding6482]

I dont know what makes you think CoD player want the same as RoK, RoK just came out earlier so its hard to convince those people to spend over in another game. cod is still the better game and we do not want that direction at all

[@Wilkesy7]

most players cant afford to take so many dead troops that the bastions are currently demanding. I agree that everyone should contribute but if you're not careful a normal player (not whale) can hugely damage their account in a single day worth of contributing to bastions

[@DanielDCotta]

Many CoD players have quit RoK due to the dead troops. So the mentality of players are different. I expect to see many CoD players quit in search for the next game that does not have dead troops.

[@Dpain003]

You don't understand strategy war games then. Lol I think the game you're looking for is Farmer Simulator '24

[@compdogg94]

There is no such game bro. A game that doesn't have dead troops means all the day 1 people in the game will ALWAYS dominate new players and alliances.... Because they've simply just had more time. So what does that mean? You cannot matchmake new servers with old. So what does that mean? You have what cod literally had FOR A YEAR where you fight the same people over and over and over again until you die from boredom.... And that's why that game will never exist

[@DanielDCotta]

​@@compdogg94 Currently, siege bastion fights are not a skill competition but a matter of who is willing to suffer more dead troops, due to ability to spend on getting more troops (i.e. training speed ups). Do not worry about match ups being the same, player will migrate and continually cause power to change. CoD players want to see their power keep increasing, not dropping.

[@compdogg94]

@@DanielDCotta why would I not worry that the matchups being the same when that has already happened for a year and many people quit because of it? But anyway to respond to your main point of "cod players want to see their power increasing not decreasing" 1. That is true of every game. Not one actually loves seeing their power drop. They just understand it is necessary. So I don't get how that makes cod players different. 2. Answer me this. CoD has been out for 5 years there are no siege bastions as you wish and therefore no dead troops people have been getting. We would agree that the average player power (if they've all had five years to grow) could be 150 mil power (average top alliance is at like 100 mil now with the game being out two years). SO explain to me how any alliance/server can compete with them within a years time? Even if you say give them five years too, then the first alliance will have 10 years played lol and their power will have only grown even more. FINAL POINT : if you're game is constructed where new players cannot catch up and be able to compete with older players then your game will die. Period. Old players won't be there forever and will quit and new players will feel hopeless in not being able to compete and will quit.

[@SummerishereYEP]

I always had the last policy on in my last KVK, joined crucial rallies and was at like 450k deaths. The thing is you have to split it between everyone, it doesn't hurt that bad if you share deaths.

[@JustKillam]

I think a good fix is for the max elixir generation to be capped at 10 million troops instead of 20 million. And 1 t5 counts as 2 points. So 5 million t5s, or 10 million t4s, or some other mix. This is a lot more attainable, and would also be better for new players. And after you reach this marker (~100m power) you have no excuse to not take deads. Whereas now that number is around 150m power.

[@Xatrax]

I think the culture of this game is a lot more different than RoK becouse how healing works, and in general, how the game works In RoK you need to be competitive to have a lot of farm accounts to dumb rss to healing and training new troops, and you can get as many gems as you want gathering gems, so the troops there have "less value" couse they are easy to get Here in CoD you can rss heal yeah, but with a weekly limit, after that you need that elixir healing to continue fighting, you can't get infinite gems gathering so you can't buy speed ups to train more troops, troops in CoD have more value, they are harder to get (All this in F2P sence, i know whales have all the rss in the world, and even here that is not 100% true) Only moment you actually need death troops before bastion were attacking passes to invade other zone, you could decide not defending pass and just spam towers and make a wall. But at the end devs will actually decide what culture the players of this game will be, that will depend mostly in how you heal troops in this game i think. I would prefer if they keep buff elixir healing so we can fight more, and they put a politic to have death troops in open field who is so so good whales can't ignore it xD so all whales/mid spenders would lose troops in the open field

[@Zungentruppen]

Kingdoms not run by ROK players aren’t going to have deads requirements, the concept is foreign to them

[@reymonddasco8690]

Getting speed up in cod is less than in rok for f2p

[@crazylego98]

T5 player that only played year 2-4 of ROK, now in COD and it's ridiculous how scared people are of deads 😭

[@scarxface8108]

- If the biggest CoD alliances start recruiting more strong and active people, it will reach the point where in a kvk you have no competition, and you get tired of winning and winning, the fun of fighting with an opponent who is at your level is lost. - Looking at it from another angle, killing troops helps your kingdom power to be reduced considerably and thus more people can enter your kingdom. Bastions help kill troops but time is wasted too much, I don't care about dead troops, they recover in a considerable time but the time wasted in maintaining a rally or a garrison, is a tragedy.

[@antoniowilliams6567]

Customers are always right, it seems like no one wants or understands dead troops so they should just leave it out for now at least

[@compdogg94]

Lol that's just simply not true. Customers of grocery stores want free products..,. Dont think that a hot take... Does that mean Wal-Mart should listen? No.

[@MultiVers8]

😢sadly that may not work for everyone, especially for f2p like me but I see how it makes sense. Me personally I will contribute a lot unless there is a high chance of dead troops(bastions especially)

[@JustKillam]

The problem is that as F2P (even though I am almost 80 million power) I have no way to kill troops in this game. Really, you can only kill infantry, and MAYBE archers. Soon I'll have t5 infantry (4 months) so then I'll be able to start killing those. but that's still a long ways off.

[@lintokochi]

Is dragon tickets better way than going through direct payments ?

[@Dpain003]

Not if you're on Android. Google gives credits back for free play store money. It all depends on who you want more money to go to. China devs, or Google. No clue about apple store if they give reward credits too.

[@АлексейКришталь-д2п]

yes its better since now u get coins as a bonus

[@oliviergroleaubelanger2343]

In my opinion 2 things kill the game: bastion and belleron map. You associate them both and you get the most boring season ever

[@scarxface8108]

bastion = waste of time

[@mateastman1765]

I can 100% vouch that BDO throws downs lol amazing opponent to fight

[@Novem_YT]

Regular viewer now alliance mate as well 🙃 that’s good

[@deniskamonjo5475]

Bro is over 100mil power and still t4 why bro whyyy 😢😢

[@Chisgule]

Upgrade to t5 during great heights for rapid point gain

[@robertboswell3558]

People left rok and came to cod because they said this would be different. Should be no surprise people do not want dead troops.

[@Dpain003]

Then people don't understand this genre, and should find a farming focused game.

[@robertboswell3558]

@ you must forget. It was advertised as very f2p and that the troops would be different and they were at first.

[@Dpain003]

@@robertboswell3558 you must not know ROK very well, firstly. In that the amount of spending compared to CoD, is vastly lowered. Secondly, dead troops are not lost money. Training troops does not require money. Ergo, F2P. Dead troops = participation. Dead troops =/= money spent.

[@cnikkor]

By selling those dragon tickets, google and/or apple (as example) don't get a cut from the purchases, which means more money for the publisher - I guess.

[@Dpain003]

Facts. Pick who you want 10% back from. China, or Google/Apple. Google gives tokens for purchases as well, so the dragon tickets aren't any more value.

[@cnikkor]

@Dpain003 no additional value for the players just for the seller. I don't exactly know how much Google gets from each purchase from the play store. I guess it's 30% so the dragon tickets generate more revenue for lilith because they don't have to pay Google 30% Would be nice if it was cheaper then the app store prizes (not 30% obviously) but like 10-15% off would be a win-win for players and publisher

[@cononon-v6e]

CoD is still in it's early stages, it's still about to get its 2 years anniversary, maybe after some time players will be okay to have dead troops

[@magicsinglez]

God. . .its so Hard to build up troops. . . Who has enough? I don’t. Not even close to enough. . . Who wants dead troops (and the troop speed-ups needed to replace them), Call of Dragons? I’m actually in a game where I seem to have enough troops. So many, it Seems like it doesn’t matter if my troops die. That’s not this game! When I can put 5 marches of T5 archers in play. . .Cav in play. .Inf in play. .Mages in play. .and Flying Mages in play I’ll have enough troops. I still won’t want to lose any. It makes my alliance stronger. Give me a full season of that, first. Then I’ll be eager to take losses.

[@SADIK-IS-HERE]

You guys should do some giveaways 2/3 times in a month

[@magicsinglez]

I don’t see how it benefits your alliance if your troops get killed. Am I missing something? Perhaps it benefits your alliance to kill the troops of other alliances. Wait, I think Chisgul is saying every alliance member should do their fair share. That might be a better way to say the same thing.

[@JustKillam]

Also this is three comments on this video my bad. But good luck in Great Heights

[@arryandika1523]

Nice

[@theumtheum1357]

This game should not be copy of rok. Not everything at least

[@ziooxtv4235]

Fine , let's just increase dead troops by making T1 units and putting them in Bastion then ... I completely agree with you but the game is still lacking some information as more account details. Tanks players should be added an amount of damage tanked and dead troops Tier or things like this should be precised .

[@Parasabio]

Bad take on dead troops. F2p are far from being ready to “full send it” every kvk

[@Dpain003]

Why not? Lol please explain why you shouldn't full send it?

[@motu4554]

Also if you aren't full sending it then you'll be in a non competitive alliance. He's talking about top tier alliances having dead troops. Not every alliance will be that competitive

[@blackturtle535]

@@Dpain003full sending in using all rss is definitely doable since downtime between seasons is long. Full sending in dead troops for f2p will not be viable in long run. Infantry wins open field and if a f2p takes like 200k dead infantry every season they won’t be able to win open field much. It’s a fine line between requiring dead and making sure you can still fight next kvk. You could say top kingdom don’t accept f2p but I’ve seen f2p players who have top merits so it would be idiotic to kick them out just because they don’t want to take dead’s.

[@scarxface8108]

​@@blackturtle535 Exactly, with all the benefits you receive for belonging to an "elite" alliance, the % of troops killed by the KVK are replenished with all the rewards, gifts and events.

[@scarxface8108]

Now if you don't like the recruitment requirements, there are many alliances to choose the right one

[@IggyCOD]

Yep this bundle is awful

[@jamesstacey586]

The CoD immigration system is so broken. Our single alliance server #70 only has 120 members and status is orange. We can’t even fill one alliance without migrants, and the status won’t let more than a few player join.

[@enkiras]

Horrible bundle! Only comenting to help the Channel

[@Thazze00]

can someone gift me dragon tickets hahaha :C

[@jeanhicks3670]

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