The Future of THE EXPANSE | Season 6 | Leviathan Falls & Beyond

[@PetePeppers1]

November of 2021 can't get here fast enough, I can't wait for book 9. Daniel and Ty really do seem optimistic about future possibilities in developing the final three books. Let me know how optimistic you are, and if you're interested in some book discussions before Leviathan Falls comes out.

[@Briandnlo4]

Up until this point, I’ve been a show-only fan. But I’d have no problem with getting that 17-book collection of all of the novels, novellas, & short stories, and starting with Books 7-8-9 for myself. Knowing we almost didn’t get Seasons 4-5-6 makes me more grateful for what we got than frustrated by what we might, or might not get.

[@The_Shaft]

@@Briandnlo4 if you’re thinking about starting on book seven after the show. That ain’t a good idea, there is a lot of things that happened differently. I’d personally recommend starting from the beginning. Just a warning!

[@elvisibra]

look at it this way: better to end than to overkill, especially if ends well, cause after 3,4 seasons, plot armor necessary to have the same "main crew" always becomes THE flaw of any show, and for realism based The Expanse especially..

[@cheetor5923]

I'd argue the show is better than the books. But the books do have a lot more detail to them.... Watch the show AND read the books for the best experience.

[@elvisibra]

@@cheetor5923 I haven't read the books, but based on what I heard, there are too many elements of, I don't know..a comic book? Things that contradict like- entire Sol System is overly obsessed with the Roci crew, asteroids launched from a ship killed billions and almost destroyed entire planet, Marco Inaros is supposed to be revolutionary but he's just obsessed with the Roci crew too, while in the show, the Roci crew are genuine false knights, Don Quixote style as the name Rocinante would suggest, asteroids had similar effect that nukes would have, Marco is more professional and dedicated to the cause of revolution and to the grand plan, he even chose a cruiser for his Flag ship, instead of light frigate which is not even near to adequate for flag/command/attack vessel, but again, in the books A GREAT REVOLUTIONARY had to have the same ship that Holden has..so they used the show to fix(quite a)few things while keeping the core same

[@yvindalexanderfrivold]

this show is the ONLY reason i pay for amazon prime.

[@ar1sm70]

The Boys, Bosch and The Man in the High Castle are pretty good too.

[@RuralTowner]

Expanse? CERTAINLY! Maybe even VIKINGS too. Whole reason I bought Prime in the 1st place was BECAUSE of Season 4. Of late though have been using Amazon just enough for it to offset shipping on stuff but otherwise I'd drop it.

[@donaldc3884]

you still havent figured out how they draw you in with the first season, then start pumping in all the woke shit after they get you hooked only to drag a show to a deflated ending. As long as they make a shit ton of money first! Game of Thrones I'm talking about you....you bastards.

[@duvell1]

@@donaldc3884 🤣🤣🤣

[@thomaspreston3618]

your not the only one.

[@-_James_-]

Seeing Amos smiling and dancing is the scariest thing that guy's ever done.

[@godspeedthe13th]

It's so sad to come to terms to the fact that there probably won't be more Expanse after season 6. This piece of art won't get a complete ending but Hollywood will shell out endless amount of money after bull crap mainstream sci fi & superhero projects. Most people would rather have mediocrity than have something actually good.

[@rauminen4167]

"Most people would rather have mediocrity" Yep. That is how it works. Bell curve and all. ;)

[@craigwillms61]

Truly The Expanse is one of the finest programs, not just sci-fi programs, all programs. I cannot sit through another awful super hero movie and the others that have virtue signal from beginning to end bore me to no end. Please Hollywood, study the Expanse and learn something.

[@rauminen4167]

@@craigwillms61 "study the Expanse and learn something" I really don't think they're infusing the other shows/films with their ideology by accident. It is quite deliberate. They know exactly what they're doing.

[@b8700]

No kidding. There's another 50 marvel movies in production to release in the next few years

[@anydaynow01]

I hope the series would get picked up by someone else like Netflix, they did a pretty decent job with The Witcher, and as long as they keep the production team intact the last three seasons will be the science fiction blockbuster they have been looking for.

[@arcemediesmacdonald5926]

The greatest and most gorgeous sets and effects I have ever seen in a TV series. The novels absolutely elevated the sci-fi genre to new levels.

[@sanhcman666]

True, and the best part is more realistic.

[@mtbman2479]

I miss Ashford, I wish they would bring him back. I didn't like him at first but turned into an interesting & colourful character

[@brownro214]

I was thinking his ship would come in and up him up. Why did the director focus in on Ashford activating a transmission if nothing was going to come of it. It seemed he was trying to get intel on what Marco was planning and sending it to his ship then the next scene we are 6 months later.

[@ranekeisenkralle8265]

I agree in that Ashford got some pretty good character development, but I am okay with him not being around anymore. For a simple reason: He got what way too few characters get these days - a kickass last huzzah and a death that impacted the story in a major way. Overall a worthy sendoff for a great character. Bringing him back (as much as I understand the sentiment) would undermine all of this and render his sacrifice meaningless. He has sacrificed literally everything in order to complete his mission. Changing that would just feel like a cheap deus-ex-machina.

[@fortis17]

@@ranekeisenkralle8265 couldn’t have said it better. He really grew on me as a character. His last scene, was very gripping and filled with emotion but assured in what to come. A true beltalowda!!!

[@billykorando]

@@brownro214 what came of the transmission was that Chrisjen was able to figure out that the asteroids weren’t an accident and how to counter them. Without that, it would had been an enormous leap in logic for them to figure out how to stop the subsequent asteroids. It’s a bit different from many other stories where disaster is entirely prevented…

[@charlesajones77]

@@d.s.151 Yeah, book Ashford is an entirely different character. Pretty much the only similarity, other than his name, is that he thought destroying the Ring was the way to go. Show Ashford is very likable and charismatic, while book Ashford is an intolerable ass.

[@randyallison3757]

I know that if there isn't a final trilogy, I would be disappointed. All of the characters are interesting to watch, Amos being my favorite. I would like to see how their lives continue on.

[@PetePeppers1]

Season 6 will be good and I'm looking forward to it. I'll still want more when it's over.

[@TheWolfsnack]

...Amos dancing! :)

[@Locutus.Borg.]

Amos is my favourite character too. Despite the fact that he was might my least favourite character at the beginning of the series. Amos's character arc has been the best IMO. I'm still waiting to see what role _"Peaches"_ will play on the Roci and whether she will be a long-term character to replace Alex instead of Bull. I'm also keen to see if she and Amos develop as a couple like Holden and Naomi.

[@ILoveMyMalinois]

You should definitely read the books if you haven't already. They really are very good and will likely be the only way to see how the story ends. What I love most about them is how good the authors are at describing the epic scale of life in space, from combat to just travelling and living on a ship. A lot of that gets glanced over in the show.

[@JoaoSoares-rs6ec]

Mine too

[@jiminfested]

Bobby and Amos dancing, I needed that

[@williamw9120]

Right?? I didn't like Bobby initially but she's had a great arc and has definitely grown on me.

[@arcthum]

@@Powerhaus88 1:05

[@courtlaw1]

The only hope is for Jeff Bezos to be at home during his retirement, start binge watching the show then go after season six" what happened to the next season" he could personally finance the last 3 seasons.

[@m1abrams1776]

Hopefully he’ll ask for season 7 after his space flight

[@cdhilton7124]

That's kind of the reason we even got a Season 4. 🤣

[@testpilotian3188]

Well considering the book series is apparently his favourite books, and the fact that he personally intervened when the series was cancelled by SyFy, I don’t think we’ll be getting anymore series unfortunately.

[@50crowley]

Jeff Bezos could personally finance the next 7 seasons.... ...with the money he makes in a single day. Not even exaggerating. I ran the numbers.

[@Albo96286]

He could finance the next 30 years

[@jeffs6090]

TE is literally the best sci fi shows out now. Hopefully there will be more source material that gets made into more seasons. There's so much more that can be done. We may not be done with the proto molecule. We can go to countless worlds through the ring gate. There's still a lot of dynamics to work out between the Inners, the Belters, and the OPA. There's just so much that can be done, even without the story and journeys of the Roci. (Tho, we have seen before how things can go when the source material is gone.)

[@PetePeppers1]

It sounds like Alcon wants to explore more of the universe even if Daniel and Ty don't. Maybe they'd still come on in producer roles, but I mean Ty is saying he's getting offers to write TV. Not sure how it will all play out.

[@smittyjohnson9554]

The Expanse is my favorite piece of fiction of all time. It would be pretty tragic if we didn't get the last three seasons. I'm grateful we at least got six seasons as well as all nine books.

[@PureFPSPwnage]

After just completing books 7 and 8, I'm very surprised they arent going to finish it out as a tv series. They could easily tweak the time frame to make it a bit more manageable.

[@El_Xerus]

The last resource would be an animated series in my opinion, I just want us to get more of the expanse.

[@PetePeppers1]

I would definitely watch an animated series, but think it would feel like a step down after six seasons of live action.

[@deaddropsd1972]

BIG STEP DOWN imo. But hey. Clone Wars. 😆

[@SavageAudits]

I would totally watch an animated Expanse.

[@kirstencorby8465]

@@SavageAudits Me too.

[@Haegemon]

Animated series, that's even more costly in time and resources than make a TV show.

[@SilverCyric]

11:29 I would normally agree, however The Expanse crews has made it known recently they want Stargate to come back, so now I not only rank them as even cooler than before, and I believe they are true to the craft and like to see stories run their FULL course.

[@debfiebelkorn7963]

I have watched the Expanse over and over, and over. I don't want to stop. PLEASE don' t stop making it.

[@Briandnlo4]

Always good to see you when you drop by Sol System, Pete.

[@PetePeppers1]

Lots of new stuff to talk about coming up.

[@abdulmismail]

I only came across "The Expanse" from a KZbin clip, having completely missed all 6 seasons. I ended up binge watching all 6 seasons in 3 weeks; watching 2 to 3 episodes a day. I'm now on my 3rd time watching the entire series and just started Season 4. As someone who works in the space sector, the scientific accuracy is absolutely superb.

[@alexanderkuptsov6117]

With no other decent space-set TV shows (and, honestly, there haven't been many since Babylon 5) currently on air, it's a crime to terminate the Expanse after Season 6.

[@SM-pk7pg]

Try 'For All Mankind'🔥

[@georgelionon9050]

I liked Farscape between this an Babylon 5.

[@TheHubrisOfMan]

Firefly, for me. I couldn't get into Babylon 5. Maybe I'll give it another shot, now that I'm "older and wiser." :)

[@alexanderkuptsov6117]

@@SM-pk7pg I did and liked it, but something distracted me so I stopped, but going to come back and watch both seasons.

[@alexanderkuptsov6117]

@@TheHubrisOfMan I hope you will like it, although it looks very retro now :)

[@Robert-ff9wf]

I started watching the Expanse about a month ago. It's the best show nobody knows about!!! Weather you like sci-fi or not, this show has everything!!!! It is so well written and acted! It was hard getting through the first couple of episodes because I didn't know the characters but around the third episode I was hooked have been binge watching it ever since!! I can't recommend this show enough!! It's exciting and intriguing! It has the perfect mix of a great story, action and romance. The special effects are are very good!! It's such a great show, especially in this day and age where it is so hard to find quality shows!! I don't want it to end!!! Watch it!!

[@seanclough7810]

More Expanse!

[@kdemographic8109]

Just knowing that Season 6 has finished filming is great news!

[@ravikn381]

My personal opinion is that the producers should plan for Season 7 to 9 as Originals like previous seasons. The novels 7 and 8 are TOooooooo good and waiting for some announcements on the show beyond season 6. I prefer this to be similar to previous seasons and not some animated or movie presentation as some comments have suggested.

[@claytonsalinas9923]

It’s months till the final season airs, and I already miss this show haha.

[@gnomadD_]

December release date prediction turned out to be correct!

[@niccoarcadia4179]

I do not want a final season. I want a dynasty. It should have at least 1-152 seasons. Content can come from Corey's secondary books, other sci-fi writers, and fans. We want more Expanse!

[@rauminen4167]

Yeah, quality would seriously dwindle. That said, even bad quality expanse would be better than most if not all contemporary sci-fi.

[@ZakhadWOW]

how bout you offer up the money to convince writers/Amazon/whoever to do all that work? In the end, it IS about money.

[@JamesRoyceDawson]

Good stories end. I don't want another perma-franchise that burns out its welcome

[@g.g4816]

Yess

[@jorgepeterbarton]

Dunno...i mean, if they are good then yes....or if it turns into the Star Trek franchise maybe it should be concluded. Like the idea of world building though not necessarily the sequel, prequel crap usually done

[@eane4762]

Best show on tv. Period.

[@toothpastehombre]

Tiamat's Wrath left off in such a crazy spot..the show has so far to go to even get to that spot, let alone a whole book yet to be released! It will be interesting to see what they come up with. I have been pleasantly surprised and thoroughly entertained regardless Thanks for the update!

[@PetePeppers1]

Season 6 won't go beyond the time jump. They've been pretty consistent in saying that. I think it will be the end of BA with all that goes along with that, and the idea of things are still out there that could upset the balance.

[@ZakhadWOW]

@@PetePeppers1 OK IM being dense: BA = ? Bareil ANtos? Belters Anonymous? Bumblebee Aviation?

[@PetePeppers1]

@@ZakhadWOW Babylon's Ashes

[@ZakhadWOW]

@@PetePeppers1 sorry that would be way too obvious LOL My brain insists on making things more complicated >.

[@L8ugh1ngm8n1]

Yeah that last exchange between Amos and Holden... it's scary!

[@craig7232]

November of 21 can't come soon enough. But I don't want to wish my life away either. Thank you for all you efforts and insight.. outstanding!

[@PetePeppers1]

I'm so ready for the final novel.

[@ZakhadWOW]

@@PetePeppers1 Lord knows that cover art (and knowing the developments thru 8) promises one hell of a finish. A "CONFLICT OF GALACTIC PROPORTIONS", literally

[@hollycooper7177]

I have book 9 on pre-order. I can hardly wait!! I've been rereading the series and will time it so I'll be ready to go into Leviathan Falls.

[@WeGameHard]

I see The Expanse, I click.. I'm a simple man

[@kirstencorby8465]

Jesus Christ, you really live your whole life that way, don't you?

[@WeGameHard]

I think a trilogy of vod movies would be the most practical approach 🤔

[@discobiscuit99]

I can't wait, I am currently reading the books because I love the series so much, only up to book 4 so far but will most likely be ready for the final book in November. I really hope they will continue the series and complete the story in line with the books ... obviously the 30 yr gap gives them a little breathing time to do it, I don't thinks fans will disappear any time soon.

[@salmanjets718]

I never read the books or comics or whatever. But I love this show. I love the concept. I’ll be honest.. when I first seen it laying on Amazon prime, I thought it was like a Star Trek prequel or something. I only watched it because of Thomas Jane. The punisher lol. Turned out to be my favorite show. I was like.. how’s it get cancelled on syfy

[@factualopinion4275]

I don't want movies. I rather we get mini series or a spin off show to adapt the last 3 books

[@PetePeppers1]

I'm for them having as many hours as possible to work with.

[@RuralTowner]

@@PetePeppers1 So many movies...that while decent to good...half-ruined due to that very lacking.

[@EddyA1337]

They could do the future 30 year jump but just use different characters possibly, but still keep Elvie Okoye

[@anydaynow01]

@@EddyA1337 And Winston Duarte and Drummer! I have a feeling they will wrap up the Rosi crew ark with season 6 considering they killed a key character, and maybe have a few cameo appearances if they continue the last three seasons with new actors on another platform.

[@EddyA1337]

@@anydaynow01 my thoughts exactly

[@Amazingsloth]

Thank you for another great video. Always a realized pleasure when I see a new post from you.

[@archmaesterrenny9569]

Yes, please, I’d be very interested in more book discussions. Also, as for the fate of the show-I say they do a couple of off-book seasons called “the galactic adventures of Camina Drummer.” Since she’s a much-altered composite character, that show could take her anywhere…and me, I’d watch her command a garbage scow and find it entertaining!

[@allmarshall2890]

One of two best program I've seen in year's. The Exspanse... Snow pierce.... Anyway, Shame there's only 1 season left. But when time comes I will have to watch all other season before this one comes out.

[@bracoop2]

I was recommended to watch The Expanse by someone in a comment section on a Star Wars video. The expanse blows Star Wars out of the water. Thank you random person.

[@sosayweall3674]

I fell in love with the Expance first time watching. I think it's on par with the newer Battlestar Galactica saga. Which I'm still a fan of. Can't wait fo season 6.

[@trumpisacrybabydictatornar914]

Got to say this is a great awesome series I love the actors and actresses I really feel connected to them and get emotional when one of them dies that doesn’t usually happen for me but when a sci-fi show gets me a 49 year old man teary-eyed you know it’s good

[@mksugerman1500]

Pete- I really enjoy your recaps. I think you do a great job 👏

[@PetePeppers1]

I appreciate that!

[@okk6525]

I'm soo happy there is a season 6 🙌

[@LarsMacD]

Thanks for all this. I started reading the books after watching season 5. now on Babylon's ashes. So many questions have been answered that were building up from watching the series.

[@bobriemersma]

I think Amazon saw 4 and 5 and were so disappointed that if they hadn't already committed there wouldn't be a 6. The numbers they saw from 4 & 5 vs. 1 through 3 probably sealed it. They may never take this kind of chance again.

[@TheThreebucks]

Thank you for this. I just have to say, your videos are always great. You explain things so well!

[@archninjaa7507]

This show is Sci-fi GOLD. Love it.

[@Waltham1892]

I'm just interested in the future of Amos.

[@thomaspreston3618]

LIVES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@TheGogu184]

@@thomaspreston3618 ...ish

[@Psycorde]

About that...

[@yemmohater2796]

@@Psycorde Yo stop spitting spoilers all of you. What you're talking about isn't even revealed until the end of the 8th book.

[@elizabethbennet4791]

@@yemmohater2796 i cant understand what they mean

[@hua_tetsu_cat]

"IF LIFE TRANSCENDS DEATH, THEN I WILL SEEK FOR YOU THERE. IF NOT, THEN THERE TOO."

[@prismaticbeetle3194]

GIVE US MOREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

[@allandriver2066]

I'd love to see Craig Alansons Expeditionary Force Novella series on the small screen. That would be a lot of fun!

[@duitk]

Oh man an underrated series, I think it would work extremely well as a tv show, or an adult animated series. It could be this generations Stargate, if anyone remembers that TV show. Similar premise.

[@jonathanedwardgibson]

Haven’t read the books at all, but this reminds me of Frederick Pohl’s ‘Heechee’ arc where a galactic transport net is left behind for hapless newbies {us} to inhabit, but creators hide because they want the ‘lucky’ species coming along later to take the fall when real threat emerges.

[@Haegemon]

Part of the background plot of the Homeworld saga. PC games.

[@SavageTactical]

Thanks for the news and podcast link pete!

[@dustinshadle732]

I'm excited to see where the actors careers go.

[@bhuvaneshs.k638]

More Expanse video please... Maybe a video on The Expanse and how it sets benchmark for the modern SciFi series/films

[@piotrmackowiak9636]

I've hope that after Expanse Amazon put Stargete franchaise and do something with it

[@Haegemon]

If they can't complete this series, I doubt they can bring anything that lasts with Stargate.

[@Thorgon-Cross]

PLEASE NO! I love Stargate I would hate for them to F up Stargate the way they did this last season. And it is clear they would destroy Stargate.

[@ZakhadWOW]

Thanks to the Indiegogo/Kickstarter project I have a brilliant 18 inch long awesome replica of The Roci (complete with landing gear) in my window, that will be a lifelong reminder of the brilliance of this work.

[@warrick76]

Pre or post-refit? And who did you get to make that? I’d absolutely love to get a model of the Roci of that size and especially if she’s fully detailed.

[@ZakhadWOW]

@@warrick76 it was the version that went to Ilus, but with the most recent paint job. It was a special Campaign on Kickstarter IIRC; first they took all sorts of suggestion on what type of object(s) to make, and the ROCI model won hands down. THen it was a matter of fixing type of material ,size, addons and such. We had to wait quite a while to get it, but the top tier came wiht little metal plaques about some of the other major ships (Donnager, etc) and multiple other items. It was money well invested on my part. TUrns out the model was 21inches with a special stand for the ship

[@nealinator]

I have thoroughly enjoyed your insights on the Expanse. I am not a reader and have not read the novels...so I live in the tv series arena. I have watched all released seasons several times and I never do that. And now having found your channel and getting a deeper understanding of some of the things I either missed or was not brought out in the tv stuff as much as in the novels. So, thanks for the interesting content. For now...waiting for season 6. I may have to go back and watch them all again between now and then. haha

[@PetePeppers1]

Thanks for the comment. I'll probably do another rewatch before season 6 comes out. If you ever consider reading the series the audiobooks are a great entry point. The guy who reads them does a great job, and they don't lose you like some sci-fi audiobooks do at times.

[@louishermann7676]

@@PetePeppers1 The copper taste of fear flooded Holden's mouth as his crash couch rotated on its jimbals. After a few moments of companionable silence, he looked over to Amos' amiable smile. 🤣 Man, I f'ing love these books, but I've heard those phrases so many times now.

[@sergevtorino]

Hope season 6 is going to be great. It is definitely the best sci-fi tv show at this time.

[@nathantowns1999]

Having just finished Leviathan Falls, the time jump theory for the final short story feels EXTREMELY possible

[@Metro498]

The final season will be as the book 6 ended. Adaptation of books 7, 8 & 9 on screen could be like Farscape TV movies that will tie up the story arc. Naren Shankar produced Farscape and Executive producer for the Expanse, may do the same treatment as he did for Farscape movies.

[@michaeldominic3183]

The one thing I have not heard explained is WHY Amazon has no interest in finishing the series. It's hugely popular, must make them a ton of money. Why are they cancelling such a good thing?

[@tallAldiProduction]

Ty Frank said on Twitter it’s more a pause than an end. Considering the upcoming time jump in the book that makes sense. Wait 10 to 15 years to give the actors the possibility to age and resume from there.

[@bigmacfullerton7870]

@@tallAldiProduction That's what make up and special effects are for

[@Quaaludio]

1-3 are much better seasons overall imo. I know a lot of people loved the space soap opera thing, but I liked the first few seasons more than the amazon seasons. All of them are good, but the first couple had much better pacing. It is also my understanding that there was never any talk of filming past season 6.

[@Broomy718]

Huge fan of Herbert and Le Guin. The Left Hand of Darkness is a masterpiece. Cant wait to see what they come up with.

[@PetePeppers1]

Yeah, pretty good selling points for the upcoming series.

[@ZakhadWOW]

@@PetePeppers1 I only recently got around to slogging thru Heretics/Chapterhouse, and then the two parts of Franks planned book 7, done by Frank's son and partner. I see some definite parallel between what's promised for Expanse 9 and the Finale of the Dune epic saga. I've not read a LOT of LeGuin, as I'm currently on a catchup of Heinlein (I HIGHLY RECOMMEND the *Childhood's End* Miniseries on streaming), and finally got thru the final Odyssey novel from Clarke (after a refresher of the others). I did read/watch LeGuin's Earthsea series though. PETE are you familiar with THE SAGA OF PLIOCENE EXILE by Julian May? THere's an IP I would love to see done in some form of visual media.

[@kirstencorby8465]

@@ZakhadWOW That SyFy Earthsea miniseries was an abomination, my God. Read the actual books!

[@ZakhadWOW]

@@kirstencorby8465 Oh I know.. I read them when I was in like High SChool I think?

[@ZakhadWOW]

@@kirstencorby8465 I was the local library "Young Adult" advisor volunteer back in the late 70s. So I ended up reading Niven, Clarke, Heinlein, LeGUin, and also some classic fantasy (Tolkien, et al)

[@Beltalowda55]

It's difficult to wrap my head around why they would stop the TV series at Season/Book 6. Each season just gets better and better. If it's a cost issue, I'm sure there are ways of addressing the costs to get it in line with what's reasonable. Or Jeff Bezos could pay for it all with the change found between his couch cushions. The Expanse is absolutely the best book series I've ever read and the best TV series I've ever seen and very faithful to the books. They have the the magic team right now. Every aspect of the show is phenomenal. Books 7&8 are fantastic and seeing the bits of the Laconia arc at the end of Season 5 got me all excited about the possibilities of seeing the full Laconia story line and resolution of the whole story. Stopping the story at 2/3 is so disappointing. And no, a Firefly like movie wrap-up won't do it justice either. For crying out loud... Could a book to screen adaptation actually faithfully complete the whole story for once??? I think most people are way over estimating what it would take to depict the 30 year time gap from book 6 to 7. The medical technologies described in the books made it seem like 30 years in aging would be more like 5 years in today's aging. Have you seen the incredible makeup and special effects on this show?? All they need to do for appropriate aging in the story is add a few wrinkles, a little grey hair here and there, getting a little more pudgy in the gut and a few complaints about aches and pains. NO big deal. They don't need to recast or wait for the actors to age 30 years. Aging them in a very appropriate and believable way would be trivial for this team. Besides, I want to see Muskrat wagging his tail and floating around in zero G on the Roci. ✌(-‿-)✌

[@haukionkannel]

Not enough people in Amazon prime watch Expanse. They have series that have more people watching their series. So why ”waste” money on series that people are ”not interested” in! Scifi sell badly… so we always hang on lose rope in any scifi series. It can end any time. Enjoy while you can.

[@TheMadTube]

The book will make a great 41st birthday present

[@PetePeppers1]

Good timing for you.

[@tahwnikcufos]

9:01 Many fans of Firefly, saw the movie first...

[@rossglenn7600]

Minor book 7/8 spoilers: Books 7 and 8 are thin enough that I don't think full 10-episode seasons covering them would be satisfying. If you think about them, there aren't many factions covered, and aren't that many plot points or characters. To make a full season of TV from book 8 in particular, you'd have to write a lot of additional stuff since most of book 8 is descriptive text with very little dialogue. Somewhat ironically, they would work better as VOD movies than they would as TV seasons.

[@HorizonsleatherBlogspot2012]

Thanks for the update.

[@PetePeppers1]

No problem

[@jssomewhere6740]

Thanks for the video. I like the expanse and had no idea until your video how in depth it is. So you have given me something to listen to while driving. I drive a lot.

[@nachtschattenwolfW40k]

I need more of that show... and more about the Alien Storyline.

[@thehollows]

I always that doing a few books about the aliens would be super cool. Like far in the past though, about who they were and how they were extinguished.

[@thomaspreston3618]

if Amazon is done with the Expanse. Then I am done with Amazon.

[@cathalodiubhain5739]

Thinking the same myself to be honest.

[@Minifutzi_o.O]

lord of the rings is coming later

[@haukionkannel]

Lord of the rings will bring more customers to Amazon than they lose with expance… that is pity but true…

[@ashamahee]

@@Minifutzi_o.O but aren't they going completely off the rails with lotr? Read somewhere that they hired sex scene experts, like wtf its lotr.

[@lnu9068]

So starved for anything expanse. I see I click and rewatch just cause I can 😩🤣

[@clarkkent7973]

Thanks for the heads up on the ability to pre-order the 9th book on Amazon!

[@PetePeppers1]

No problem.

[@lightemam]

Hi, Pete, great talk. Very nice to hear some Expanse news and your consideration. Would you make a video talking about the book(s) - what you expect will be portrayed in this upcoming season and what is unlikely to be used or referred to from Baylon's Ashes? I wish in such a video you would hold back nothing, so to encourage a full conversation of Baylon's Ashes' narratives and arcs (and even those of all the books), those of the series and the contrasts and conflicts among them. I think it would be great to have a discussion well before any Season Six is divulged or revealed about the divergences and consistencies we anticipate. That was a heated topic at times in the last two seasons - it would be stimulating to anticipate it. One detail, how do you know this final season will conform closely to Babylon's Ashes? Regarding the content of this video. 1) Their proposed new trilogy, different from the The Expanse. I'd be very impressed if Abraham and Frank could do a series of the scope, depth and quality of anything published by Herbert or Le Guin, much less something that could compare to the combination of the two. What little I've read of Corey's works is more space opera than substantive literature. It's been fine storytelling, but thin or light, and trite when dealing with the heroic struggles for self and for values. They try, often admirably, but fall well short of such masters of literature or narrative as Hemingway, C. P. Snow, Lawrence Durrell or John Le Carre. (I won't here argue my claim.) 2) I wonder why Amazon determined to produce only as far as Season Six. I presume Amazon is in it primarily for the profit and secondarily for reputation. If it seems to be popular as well as profitable, wouldn't Amazon spring for more, or, at the very least, leave open to the public a tantalizing possibility they might opt in for more? Perhaps the series is not sufficiently popular or profitable. Certainly Amazon has the liberty of ample money to spend. 3) I agree it's not likely there will be a movie or series of movies for the reasons you proposed. Waiting a long while, aging up the cast, again, as you say, not likely. It would have to be a comprehensive reboot. I agree three more seasons with Amazon would be the way to go. Thanks for reading this.

[@PetePeppers1]

Yeah, I've been planning on doing a BA video with full book spoilers. I'll get around to it at some point. The creators have said in several interviews that they're sticking to BA for season 6. I'm guessing they touch on some things outside of it, but not really getting into story points that happen after the time jump. I'll get more into that in the video. To the other things you mentioned 1. I think they made light of invoking those names with the "disappointing love child" joke. I think it will be interesting to see them dip their toes into a far-future story, but I think they writing style will be pretty consistent. They've genre hopped throughout the main series without changing much in how they craft things. 2. I think the metric that's probably more important to streaming services is how many new subscriptions a series generates. Maybe that means the after 3 seasons they think there will only be diminishing returns in that regard. The series is popular, and a lot of people watch it. I imagine that Amazon thinks they'll lose less people by ending at 6 than they'd gain by continuing to spend money developing it.

[@lightemam]

@@PetePeppers1 Thanks a lot for your reply. I look forward to your video with full book spoilers! 1. Good answer. I overlooked that they made light of their self-comparison and tempered their aspirations with "disappointing love child." 2. The number of new subscriptions a series generates is an important third factor, not more consequential than making money, but definitely a very significant part of their money-making. Your reasoning and conclusion is very compelling, thanks.

[@detrix42]

Sucks, but all good things come to an end. I am grateful to have this series today. I wish I could write or tell a story like this.

[@The2wanderers]

Bringing people back together is more a function of lead time than anything else. It's probably possible with a couple of years of lead time to make the future seasons at some point. That said, in order to get those seasons later, the show and/or books need to remain popular well after they've aired. Some scifi series accomplish this (Star Trek, Stargate and whatnot), but lots of others are quickly forgotten once there isn't new content anymore.

[@stephenbetley9596]

I'll be satisfied by the fact that by the time S6 comes out I'll have read Leviathon Falls, so will have a full story arc to fall back on. Of course we won't have the full Laconia story arc, but we'll have pretty much the full Sol one. The rest we'll have to imagine. Would like to see Strange Dogs and The Churn turned into standalone Expanse Universe mini-series / Amzn movies before any thought of doing S7-9. Maybe a 3+yr hiatus of the main series, depends on the IP. Considering the time jump in the books there's only a handful of main characters that continue in books 7+. We haven't even seen Duarte in S1-5 and doubtful we well see him in S6 and no Alex either.

[@ricardioscarbonara102]

you are awesome, please keep the expanse love affair going, it truly is the best sci fi/ general tv show i have ever seen as well and your channel really helps fill the void!

[@Gator5000e]

Probably a long shot, but has anyone ever explained why Amazon didn’t want to continue the series after the upcoming season? I haven’t seen anything stating that, if there ever was any reason given.

[@PetePeppers1]

I think it's just the way that the subscription streaming business works. They got a lot of good publicity for "saving" the Expanse. It probably brought a lot of new subscribers in. After three seasons that number has to be showing diminishing returns even though it's one of their most streamed titles. I imagine there's a consideration of how many subscribers will drop the service if they end the series compared to how many new ones it will bring in if they continue. All of that is weighed against the cost of producing more seasons.

[@markpickenheim]

Supposedly this was the plan the whole time for the series, there was an interview after last season release somewhere.

[@slyanover]

Maybe, after the divorce, Bezos can’t afford it.

[@oldcountryman2795]

Because no one watches it.

[@CaravanseraiSouthValley]

Ya do realize this is one of the most watched series, right?

[@carlosolivia2044]

If season 6 is the final season, they have a lot of questions that need to be answered like: the actual "people/entities" that created the protomalecule - the builders - the people/entities" that destroyed the builders - where are they now - what threat is there now to Earth, Mars and the Belters once these entities find out there's a species/humanity that know about them. What will be the outcome of the fracture relation between Earth, Mars and Belters...those are the big picture questions. Then you have Nagata and Philip, Marco Inaros, Amos and Clarissa. Avaserela and Bobbie, Nagata and Holden and will Holden be the super agent between these entities and humanity..... i haven't read any of the books but these seem to be my commend sense questions.

[@georgelionon9050]

Agree on both major points. Personally I've never been so much invested in the Marco Inaros plot, I found the alien builder/destroyer plot much more interesting. Marco is IMO just some evil dude story, we got so often already. Also yes practice is, in a TV show once you lose the momentum, it will be impossible to get at least most of the actors together again.. this is how life goes. Maybe they can make an animated series.. but that's about it. and yes despite the actor problem the platform problem plays quite a role as well...

[@davidwalker5665]

One spin off series focusing on Amos & Roberta teaming up to kick ass somewhere.

[@PeBoVision]

Wait a decade after the conclusion of Season 6, and release three 3-episode mini-series (@90 minutes per episode - 270 minutes per book) bridge the 10 year gap with made for TV movies based on stories from Memory's Legion. Halving the 31 year break between Babylon's Ashes and Persepolis Rising, would allow most of the performers to reprise their roles (a ten year break aging them sufficiently to portray themselves as 15 years older.) Assuming of course that they are available and willing to return. Truth be told though, I'd even be happy if they release the final 3 books as a game series. ANYTHING it takes to not allow Babylon's Ashes to mark the end of visualizing the novels.

[@capitalh1895]

Allright Pete! Youre the only one online Ive heard randomly pronounce Toronto right! ;) you from my city? Even other canadians say it wrong in my experience. I love that the Expanse is filming here!

[@jonathanbush6197]

I hope to see more of Pablo Zuniga in 6. He's a great actor. As for the rest, I plan to sit back and enjoy the ride.

[@GSFBlade]

Thanks for the update! :)

[@PetePeppers1]

No problem

[@MaxQ2989]

Good job Pete. It’s really difficult to speculate what will happen but you do a great analysis. Thanks!

[@mugglescakesniffer3943]

Crying in my space lasagna. Great video! 😭😢😭

[@PetePeppers1]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@theabelmontero]

I was waiting for this video 🖤🖤🖤

[@PetePeppers1]

Hope it was worth the wait.

[@srvsrv8584]

This show is sooo good, best sci fi I've seen. Don't like that they killed Alex tho 😢

[@alexsnow2993]

Alex was perfect, but apparently, there was some sexual Harassment involved

[@srvsrv8584]

@@alexsnow2993 man, he did a great job playing Alex, sad being so talented and messed up at the same time, I really liked Alex, he was like a breath of fresh air

[@Hunger_Strike_Guy]

It is a great series with great background. The universe they have brought to the screen has been fantastic.. this series will be my next read so I can get everything that we've all missed through transition to teleplay.. and definitely to have it in my collection!

[@DanielGraham1]

The Expanse offers the perfect world for a sci-fi RPG. I hope they do a game.

[@JetEngine787]

Thats actually the intent of how it started. Thenit turned into the books, then the show adaptation.

[@DanielGraham1]

@@JetEngine787 Really? I didn't know that. Maybe a game is in the works, then.

[@GerdionXT]

They have a great potential right now. Movies,series even games. If season 6 will hit the spot possibility are infinite

[@Steve_in_NJ]

As someone who has not read any of the books, I just hope Season 6 wraps up enough story lines to satisfy us, the TV viewer. I don't want The Expanse to be another Manifest, where it just ends without knowing what happens to the main plot.

[@kholmar]

without being too spoilery, there is a TIME GAP between book 6 and book 7 so a few years of a break between filming the shows could work ok and perhaps even be beneficial. of course, they would have to pre-plan at least a BIT to make sure everyone they needed / wanted was available at some unknown point in the future...

[@kawh8719]

Miss your Expanse vids, Pete!

[@PluckySmurf]

This video made me feel a little less optimistic about the future of adaptations beyond season 6 in ways I hadn't previously pondered. Still though I've got my reread on in anticipation of book 9 with such excitement. It's not often something of this ambition makes its planned landing (or does so in a satisfying way) and I have every bit of faith in Ty and Daniel to make it amazing. I am pleased to say I got a friend into the show and now she wants to read the books. It's such a deserving franchise. And such a rewarding franchise. I hope we live to see an exceptional adaptation of the entire written works. Is it a spoiler to say...... At least Alex is still alive and kicking to at least the end of book 8. Regardless of any real life actions and consequences regarding Cas Anvar, he portrayed Alex well and he was a beloved character to me. His loss in the season 5 finale was jarring and heart-wrenching even though I figured it was about a 90% probability the character would die. Whether reading the novels or watching the series, Alex was easy to love with all of our core four crew. Leviathan Falls is going to be a very deep and enlightening conclusion of The Expanse universe. I can just feel it. I watch/listen to Ty and That Guy (Wes Chatham) and just based on observing Ty's tastes, takes and thoughtfulness, he's not about to let it suck. I haven't had the same opportunity to observe Daniel in such a way but I gather I would hold him in similar high regard, so I just truly believe the final book (& novella)(woot! Didn't know til today!) is going to be genuinely epic (in a taking back the definition of epic - way.)

[@PetePeppers1]

This is the most complete statement about the future prospects I've seen kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3a1kJ-lnbCSn5o I'm still most excited about the final novel. Been through book 8 so many times in the past couple of years. Can't wait to see how it ends.

[@marknovak6498]

I want so much for all nine books to be done in the same style. I was hoping it would be done given so much sciencefiction content is not up to this standard.

[@pschroeter1]

In March I watched all the available episodes of The Expanse. In May all the the episodes of Game of Thrones. It's been a pretty good year for me and epic adventure series.

[@kkeelty64]

The Expanse >>>> GoT (unless The Expanse monumentally f@cks up the ending... like GoT)

[@Kennia1998]

I'm just hoping for more seasons😭😭😭