The G.O.A.T of Craps Strategies! DON'T Miss THIS!

[@garrison7888]

Every system works on occasion and that same system fails on occasion. It all depends on what type of table you're playing on there are four types of tables, Do, Don't, Choppy and Torpedo table. Good Luck at the tables. If you want a quick $100 put $60 on the 6 & 8 take one hit of $70 and regress to $30. Now you have $100 in your rack---Just saying. P.S. Some times it is better to know "When" too play than it is to know "How" to play. Good timing is a key at the tables.☯♠

[@markthepoint]

@@garrison7888 100% agree.. I like the Idea of the 6&8.. I Play like that with low Bankroll

[@getwhtugiv]

I like this one Mark. Heading to Laughlin in few weeks. Thanks

[@markthepoint]

@@getwhtugiv Great 👍🏼 Thank you! Glad you enjoyed it! Eliminate risk play for the win... Let us know how you did when you get back!! ✅

[@JoeFerber]

Mark, I like this a LOT!!! This is GREAT but I want to mention a few things: First, I calculated your total action for each shooter, and it amounts to $310. That's because with your initial action with the Pass Line and ATS bet, that's $30, plus the $50 on 5, the $60 each on 6 and 8, the $25 each on 4, 9 and 10, the $15 on the Field bet, and the $5 each on the hard ways. Therefore, you want to give yourself 10 chances for 10 shooters, so you would need a SBR - Starting Bankroll - of $3100. You said you are JUST going for 2 hits and down for the $100, but this may NOT happen, as was evidenced by a couple of rolls because of the horn numbers thrown. So, you can either say you WANT to go for the shooter to MAKE you $100, and once that is accomplished, THEN you take ALL of your money down, except for your Pass Line bet and the ATS is automatically LOCKED in. The OTHER option would be to STILL just go for 2 hits and down, but you could wind up JUST breaking EVEN with 2 horn numbers - 3 and 11 SPECIFICALLY - totaling $30, which covers your INITIAL action! So, you JUST have to decide WHICH option you prefer! Because I have been in the REAL world TOO often, MOST shooters are LUCKY if they can make it PAST 3 rolls WITHOUT sevening-out, so this is WHY I like this strategy a LOT, because it is more realistic about what happens in the REAL world, and I would JUST go for 2 hits and DOWN, but HERE is what I would do DIFFERENTLY: I would do ALMOST the SAME thing you did for the INITIAL action - $15 on the Pass Line bet BUT, $2 EACH on the Small and TALL and $6 on the ALL, but I will have $5 on BOTH C&E so I PROTECT my Pass Line bet on the Come-out roll, so it amounts to the SAME INITIAL $30 action, but I just arranged it differently, and now once the point is ESTABLISHED, HERE is what I would do DIFFERENTLY: I would JUST set up the Iron Cross in THIS manner: $50 on the number 5, and $60 EACH on 6 and 8, and $30 on the Field bet. Then I would go for JUST 2 hits from the shooter and DOWN, and it will GUARANTEE me a profit of at LEAST $30 PER shooter even if the shooter sevens-out! All I will do once my bets are down, is just ROOT for the shooter to either make their POINT or get the ATS! IF the shooter MAKES their point, just put up $15 on the Pass line and $5 on BOTH C&E to again PROTECT your Pass Line bet and once they establish ANOTHER point, the set up the Iron Cross THIS way: $30 on the number 5, and $36 EACH on the numbers 6 and 8, and $20 on the Field bet and go for 2 hits and DOWN, and this will GUARANTEE that you will make at LEAST a $20 profit from that SAME shooter on that 2nd point, and again you are ROOTING for that shooter to either MAKE their 2nd point and to CONTINUE making the ATS!!! Once that shooter sevens-out, just REPEAT this process from the beginning. This way, instead of a $3100 SBR, you can use a SBR of $2300! Yes, it will be LESS PROFITS per shooter, but you STILL have the potential to win HUGE amounts of money if the ATS is hit!

[@markthepoint]

After playing it out several times... I can see there are different options.. especially with Horn bets and such.. I like All of the suggestions you mentioned... 👍🏼💪🏼

[@JoeFerber]

@@markthepoint Thanks Mark!

[@classifiedsincebirth]

I like this strategy. Greed causes profits to disappear quickly. Make a quick 200 and enjoy the possibility of the small and tall. Don't listen to others who say "what if".

[@markthepoint]

Thanks! I appreciate it! Very true! Greed gets to all of us sometimes... 🤣

[@classifiedsincebirth]

@@markthepoint oh, and don't drink alcohol lol

[@markthepoint]

@@classifiedsincebirth True! Craps and Gambling sounds like a disaster... I personally don't drink at all.

[@robotmonkey3020]

I think you will drive the dealers crazy. Would be easier to just turn off your bets after your 2 hits and turn them back on when ready, as the place bets don't change

[@chrislansaw9491]

I like your thinking because that is the same thing I was thinking

[@markthepoint]

As long as you take care of them. They will take care of you.. I usually tip the dealers in Play and Bets

[@JoeFerber]

@@markthepoint INDEED!!!

[@maythe4sbewithyou]

Just tried this at my home table. First shooter point seven out down three hundred. Second shooter after I made the one hundred I pu. Lled down to a one hundred dollar iron cross, Then ended up rolling about a thirty Roller and hit the all tall small. Not a typical. Roll out but it worked well on that!!. That tourist carnival game paid me ten fifty

[@markthepoint]

The ATS is fun though right?

[@maythe4sbewithyou]

I've done well IRL with the ats I regularly get either the small or the tall and occasionally I hit em all. It's always a bonus bet and it excites the table when it hits.. really gets pumped up when theres only one number left on a good shooter ​@@markthepoint

[@RobertLipson-yu6kl]

Gamble this strategy @ a casino near you long enough. Keep tract on paper & see how you REALLY do.

[@markthepoint]

Well In the long run the casino always wins .too Much time at the table will drain you..

[@maythe4sbewithyou]

Waylon says it regularly and I agree....be satisfied.

[@InvstWzrd]

dude, love your passion, but this is rudimentary system. Sure, any way you play numbers is good if you get past the first couple rolls and go off. But what about when the point seven out comes or 1 number 7 out?? It happens alot!! it wipes out 5x of you return per 1 roll.

[@markthepoint]

Thanks!!! Totally agree huge risk but a reward that gets you profit. Must systems get you roughly out of the hand, then they play with profits and 7 out.. And never really win and will bleed dry… Trust me I understand there is a lot of money a risk of the PSO. Or really 2 rolls.. but most systems would lose if that happened

[@kfisherprotege]

PSOs and 1 number & out are the most common ways to end rolls. So why not do a 2-count, then put bets down?

[@markthepoint]

I guess it All depends on if you believe the in true probability. Because the 7 is going to come. 1/6 times on average... Does it not Come as often on the 3rd throw? I don't have the data if it does or not. It's just a thought.. But to your point a lot of people do like to do the one or two count for that exact same reason! 👍🏼

[@frnchy3]

Practiced it three different sessions. Got destroyed by those sevens the first session had three sevens right after I placed the bets in a tow. The lethal part is when you have 270 on the table and your roll a seven. I will keep trying it but thank you for showing it to us

[@formulaifiero2]

Great video!! No matter what system or strategy I use, I feel skipping the first roll after the point is established before placing a chunk of cash out there is smart. I understand the probability of a 7 and that every roll is independent, but you completely eliminate all PSO's indefinitely this way. I have played for many years and have seen multiple PSO's in a row which can wipe your entire bankroll out in under 10 minutes. And yes a 7 can come at anytime 2nd roll 3rd roll, etc.... But, If I had skipped that first roll since my very 1st time playing, I would've lasted soooo much longer during each session.

[@MSPcraps]

I rolled this out last night after watching it. Dealing it is a royal pain--there are sooooo many chips! Good thing it's just for 2 hits. I didn't do well on my first $1500. I like to play the come out sometimes, so comeout 7's followed by PSOs wiped me out fast. My second try was better. I played around 20 shooters and hit the tall once for $150, so that part of the strat wasn't really worth it. I truly don't get you ATS fans.🤑It's not horrible as a starting strat to get out in 2 hits, but my first try proved it can be HARD to get just 2 hits, even with everything covered. I feel there are better ways to get that initial $100 without the nearly $300 at risk for 2 rolls (so $600 total). As always, thanks for the great idea!

[@markthepoint]

Thanks for the info... I agree it can be as aggressive to have a heavy spread.. And 2 hit as weird as it is seems hard sometimes.. I agree with both points you made... But going out there 4-5 different times say $110 inside is a grind also to get your money back... Which is worse? I guess it all depends on what combination of the dice hit on that particular segment..😂

[@dragonshane]

I do something similar. But on the come out, I do $25 pass line, $5 craps check. 7 = profit $5. Craps = profit $10.

[@JoeFerber]

EGGZACKULLY!!!

[@davidmeisland587]

Great Strategy! I was thinking of something like this last night. I was also thinking of betting during the come out, until I saw your first roll.. :)

[@markthepoint]

Haha.. heah 7s have Come heavy lately... 🤣

[@shawnfranks8650]

Nice strategy. Thanks for the work you put in.

[@markthepoint]

Thanks! I'm glad you enjoyed it!

[@Tripperdey]

Great Idea; however, I'm not too fond of the significant investment either. When I get the balls to even play at the $150 level, I might try my system: $15 ATS, $132 inside, 1st hit spread to the 4 and 10 for $20 each, and after the 2nd hit, take the bets down. To make it more interesting, I’ll probably bet $2 on each of the Hardways.

[@markthepoint]

Yes. it is definitely a healthy Investment... And it can get wiped out fast.

[@endreasb9368]

I only play the all tall when I’m shooting because I hit it often, the ATS should only be played with casino money in my opinion, it’s distracting. The payout is lovely when you win though.

[@markthepoint]

@@endreasb9368 that's awesome you have a touch to hit it.. Only play heavy on yourself? As an idea?

[@endreasb9368]

@@markthepoint yes I practice dice influence and I’m good at getting past the come out roll. 7s on the come out roll are very likely with random shooters, they wipe out all your money on the ATS.

[@markthepoint]

Very true... And hedging big red will bleed you also

[@endreasb9368]

@@markthepoint I’ve learned this the hard way lol. I love hopping reds though, I normally do it in the 6-9 roll range. It works for me often. The casino I play at pays 15-to-1 for hopping 7s

[@kennethjohnson359]

I’ve been kicking around with playing all the way across in increments that pay 50 for 1 one hit and turn bets off waiting for next shooter. Could do the same thing 15$ pass with 15$ ATS but looking for 50$ a shooter do successfully for 10 Shooters be good money.

[@markthepoint]

@@kennethjohnson359 Yes. sounds very similar to this one.. Let me know if you take it to the tables... 👍🏼

[@NineballChris]

1:56 $50 on the Fifty. I like that bet. :)

[@markthepoint]

Thanks... 🤣👍🏼✅

[@iptvclub1575]

Ats: $15 Pass: $15 Hw: $20 4/10: $50 6/8: $120 5: $50 9: $25 Field: $15 = $310 not $285

[@markthepoint]

It seems that I missed the $50 5… I played this similar to just the $60 6&8 and didn’t like the $25 5 hit so I increased it to $50 and forgot to change my notes while preparing.

[@kylebrodie9390]

Why place the 5 when it’s the point and you have a pass line bet? You get better odds behind the pass line!!!

[@markthepoint]

@@kylebrodie9390 totally agree.. I end up saying that later in the video. But because I was turning off most all bets and removing the place pets, I just left it as they were And didn't put odds behind. But you are correct. They do pay more.

[@danyoungs3116]

about 3-4 cold shooters and your out a grand

[@markthepoint]

Right. But that could be said for any strategy. Most people don't just stop at 2 Hits. and Most people press The First few.. At least This gives you a chance... 😂

[@classifiedsincebirth]

or you could have stayed home and still have the grand

[@markthepoint]

@classifiedsincebirth Well That's why it's a Gamble...You never know how the tables will roll... You have a chance to 2x 3x if it rolls out in your favor.. because you turn off the bets it limits your profit...

[@davidmeisland587]

Just noticed... Quick Question. If you have the ATS and Pass still out there... Shouldn't you subtract that when counting how much you won on that shooter? i.e. You take down bets with 100, but the investment in the ATS and Pass could be 30 still invested.

[@markthepoint]

Valid point... At least your ATS is paid for...

[@joshua9093]

I have an idea for a system I'd love your thought on. Any way to send it to you?

[@markthepoint]

Let me know. you can send me an email..

[@ilyongkim7627]

I wish more pressing would be better before regression? I hate missing out on good rolls.

[@markthepoint]

I understand but look at how many Rolls end up net 0 because we press and never put profits into the rack... I'm guilty also.

[@ilyongkim7627]

@@markthepoint Cool. how about either half press or max press and collect strategy?

[@markthepoint]

I have a few of those on the channel... I personally like to full Press collect... Each number... Much like a double tap system

[@ezrab54]

Been awhile since I have been to a casino. What is ATS? Wasn't there 20 years ago.

[@markthepoint]

@ezrab54 ATS is The All Tall Small.. Meaning 2-6. & 8-12 If you hit either side small or tall before rolling a 7 then it pays $30-1 If you roll them all.. or both the small and Tall prior to hitting the 7, you win $150-1 It's a fun bet but can get expensive

[@shaunholt]

All, Tall, Small Small - 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 Tall - 8, 9, 10, 11, 12 All - 2 3 4 5 6 8 9 10 11 12 Loses on any 7 So it's a race to hit all the small/tall/all numbers before rolling a 7. Each time one of the numbers hit, the boxman marks it. Once all the numbers hit, the winning bets are paid out. It's like BINGO a bit. Hoping all the numbers hit before the evil 7. You can't bet it once any of the numbers hit. Some casinos (mine) allows you to bet so long as none of the marked numbers hit yet, so for example if a shooter rolls a 9 and a 12, no 2-8, my casino will let people bet on the Small numbers. Another nearby casino does not allow this. I think you can bet just $1 in most casinos.

[@markthepoint]

Great Explanation! 👍🏼

[@geraldworkman3771]

Why not leave the hardways out till they lose? Its only 20 bucks until a 7 comes. It seemed to pay off on wincraps sim!

[@markthepoint]

@geraldworkman3771 how many rolls did you plug into Wincraps? How long did it go before it hit 0?

[@blackdragon8505]

The goal of this GOAT is to get set up for the worst bet aka ATS on the table?

[@markthepoint]

Let's change the perspective.. you are getting your bets into profit. then setting yourself up for the Best payout on the table for free... Chance to win more without risk. How many times do people regress their bets then 7 out. And 0 profit comes back to the rack.

[@jordan1022]

Explain to me why you won't put odds behind your point instead of keeping it up as a place bet. It pays better behind anyways and also why come down after two rolls? I guess not looking to make real money.

[@markthepoint]

@@jordan1022 real money isn't really a good argument...Each bet is only $2 different max. True odds vs place Bets at $25 levels.

[@AxeofdeathXP]

It pays true odds but it doesn't end up paying you properly at the end of the day. For math purposes: $10 table. $10 pass and $10 with odds on a point of 5. $20 total = $10 pass and $15 in odds if it hits for $25 total. If you placed $20 on the 5 it pays $28

[@markthepoint]

Exactly it is a few dollars more. I get it... If you're playing the pass line, it's better to put the odds behind. If you're not playing the pass line, it's not.

[@anhtiennguyen]

The hope was getting 2 hits but unfortunately the 7 came out before the first hit.

[@markthepoint]

@@anhtiennguyen Typical Craps session 😂🤣

[@robertbrandon3361]

and you shorted yourself on the last shooter...at least $50. but good strat

[@markthepoint]

@@robertbrandon3361 I'll go back and check and see what I did. I may have missed something. Didn't realize it. Thanks for letting me know. 👍🏼

[@willmunson9320]

I like it but that’s a big pucker factor even to get a couple hits 😂😂😂

[@markthepoint]

@@willmunson9320 squeeze them cheeks hard! 🤣😂

[@willmunson9320]

@@markthepoint I’m going in two weeks to lv maybe give it a shot on the last day WAY WAY out of my comfort zone but maybe I’ll have a what the hell moment 😂😂😂

[@velly5yaar]

Ats and pass line is a leak.

[@markthepoint]

Yes. A wash at best and a bad bet.. But still fun!!! 🤣

[@TheOtomo]

The ATS at the Tall/Small 30 to 1 has an 18.30% house edge, and All 150 to 1 has 20.61% house edge. You lose the bet on any 7, including come out 7's. I never play that bet, it is a carnival bet intended for tourists.

[@markthepoint]

It's a fun bet..

[@TheBillkrauss]

This strat is like getting a free $15 slot pull with winnings. But this slot bet lasts a lot longer and is more fun.

[@markthepoint]

Yeah And it's a bet that everybody pretty much roots for... I'm a sucker for it.. 🤣😂

[@JoeFerber]

It's okay to NOT play that bet if you want when OTHERS are shooting, but if YOU are the shooter, you BETTER invest in it because if a LOT of others are on it and you just happen to HIT it, you're gonna be KICKING yourself in the ASS for NOT playing it!!!

[@JoeFerber]

@@markthepoint AND it's a GREAT bet!!!

[@AxeofdeathXP]

Lol $100 while putting 300 at risk. 3:1 risk vs reward ratio. This is horrible, on top of that your only action is passline and ATS after 2 hits

[@markthepoint]

@@AxeofdeathXP I get it. It's definitely a risk.. But most Craps players will have over $300 on the table by pressing their bets and not even realize it and never regress at all. This has an absolute regression eliminating most risk after two successful hits on the box numbers. But I get it. The point is valid.

[@JoeFerber]

It may not be the best, but it is realistic because MOST shooters CANNOT last PAST 3 rolls in the REAL world!!!

[@tym8091]

No disrespect but THIS is the worst strategy I've ever seen. WORST STRATEGY EVER!!! Does not capitalize on any big rolls, will put you to sleep. It is Boring and could never be considered a GOAT strategy. You should call this the SUCKER BET BOREDOM STRATEGY.