The German Luger P08 Gun Review

One of the most sought after Military surplus firearms, the Luger P08 Served the German Army from 1908-1945 and beyond with Police until the 1980's. Thanks to my friend Bill for the loaner! We also appreciate Fiocchi for Supplying the ammo! #Luger #LugerP08 #Fiocchi
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[@billthemailman9195]

You look like Artie Johnson with the helmet and glasses from Laugh In, very interesting

[@michaelrains2268]

😅😅😅😅

[@petermonck5448]

@@michaelrains2268 hahaha 😆

[@Quality_Guru]

@@petermonck5448 Very Interesting, but schupid!

[@aspenair8988]

I thought of Chevy Chase also O.o

[@marksmith568]

LOL. Reminds me of Bill Murray. That's a fact, jack :-)

[@rubenlago7038]

MY UNCLE HAVE ONE FROM THE GERMAN ARMY WITH THE YEAR STAMP ON IT , IT IS A MASTERPIECE OF GUN INGENEERING.

[@MGB-learning]

The best looking handgun the Germans produced. I am fortunate to own a 1941 made model.

[@davidsmith5094]

Lucky you.

[@alexbowman7582]

If you lived in the UK that would be a 5 year mandatory sentence.

[@reganboulton1868]

@@alexbowman7582nobody asked

[@allenspearing9143]

The Luger is such a beautiful gun. Even though the design is 100 years old it looks like something from the future

[@muckiderhase157]

My favourite is the Colt mod. 1903 respectively 1908, also of timeless elegance.

[@wilhelmvonn9619]

Beautiful I agree, but single action, limited ammo capacity, and awkward safety.

[@johnhargis4566]

Sootch you are such a good commentator & journalast for the shooting community ❤ 😊

[@NBZW]

Beautiful to look at like a tall Blond, problem is the trigger pull sucks.

[@johnburrows1179]

Love my P08. Searched for years for one. Finally found a beautiful Waffenstamped Black Widow. All matching. Love it

[@Saint_Wolf_]

I love this gun so much, so iconic I'm just shocked nobody is making a clone/updated version with maybe double stack mags?

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

It's complicated and expensive action to make. Unlikely that a double stack centerfire version would be possible. Now, a .22lr blowback version with a non-functioning toggle-lock? Very possible, just like the Airsoft versions. Walther/Umarex is know for making great .22lr replicas of traditional gun. If they ever work their German magic and come up with a .22 Luger, sign me in.

[@wisentwisent9150]

Lugerman in Pennsylvania is currently making a 45 cal version, but very expensive. Armscor in the Phillipines has the CNC machines & the cost advantage to make these, it's a shame that they don't.

[@robertpatterson9281]

@@VincitOmniaVeritas7 Stoeger used to produce 22lr lugers

[@ToyManFlyer1100]

@@robertpatterson9281 My Pop's had a 22lr Luger... We, kids shot it so much, we broke the firing pin...All unauthorized, ofc...Needless to say, he was quite pissed....😳😳😳!!!

[@VincitOmniaVeritas7]

Robert Patterson really? Hum. Stoeger is just an importer, I wonder who actually made them.

[@bosse641]

The Luger and the Colt Peacemaker was my dream pistols as a kid :o)

[@patrickgriffitt6551]

They are mine still

[@davidsmith5094]

Correct...the Luger and the Colt 1911 government model...two of the most iconic handguns in the world.

[@ronalddunne3413]

You and most boys of the post ww2 pre-Vietnam generation!

[@Rocker85]

I own a 1941 German Luger Black Widow. Es ist gut!

[@sammyprestwood3182]

Sadly the Luger po8 it's just a dream gun to add to your collection you either have to be pretty wealthy or lucky to own one but it's always nice to see someone shooting one thanks for the video

[@6Sally5]

@Kokain Gott Wow! I’ll take three, please!

[@sanchezroman8995]

@@6Sally5 .. please make that 5!! 🖐️

[@patrickgriffitt6551]

Shoot them now and again they are built for war. Just don't go hog wild.

[@Joji-cx5ml]

@HansGans Americans already took too much from Germany...

[@michaelgoldman1433]

My favorite weapon of all time

[@foreverbrownsfan]

Good video. My dad was an Army Air Corp pilot in WW2. He and his CO landed to capture several surrendering German soldiers and officers near the end of the conflict. It’s 100% original and in mint condition. The Lugar will be passed to my oldest son along with a local newspaper account of the event.

[@dlife7427]

How cool is that. Hope your son realizes how cool and sought after they are.

[@foreverbrownsfan]

@@dlife7427 - Thanks for the reply. Yes, he certainly does. He traveled from CT to OH last week to spend some range time with me. The Lugar stayed in the safe this time.😉

[@TM-ey5py]

That is very special.

[@diamonddave16]

Nice. My grandpa recovered a Luger near Ardennes. He made a stuffed animal dog for my grandma, put the gun in w pantyhose stuffed around it and sent it home. It was still there when he got home a yr later.

[@wes326]

My great uncle brought back a P38 from WWII. Thanks for sharing.

[@andriessluiter4269]

Actualy you have an early one there , around 1918. The crown over N is an “ civilian “ proofmark. Your P08 is a police one one with the rare “Schiwy sicherung” Sadly is has been reblued and the markings on the toggle and top of the frame are wiped out. Also most of the parts are not numbered on the right places. It seems it had quite a “ life”. But as it is its a nice shooter and it has some collector value. The cut behind the take down plate, trigger plate, is new to me. Never seen that before. Please take good care of that 08. Try to find “ soft” loads to shoot. The story gets even better. The cut is from the Walther sicherrung. Magazine safety. That was only fitted for a few years and removed from most of the P08s. And after removing the cut was closed on most of them.

[@MathiasKarlsson]

@George Washington OK mr President 😂

[@jarchiec]

The cut on the side was a mystery to me too.

[@allanbrown747]

@George Washington LET'S GO BRANDON !!!!😇

[@DK-gy7ll]

"The cut behind the take down plate, trigger plate, is new to me. Never seen that before." I was gonna say. I have no clue what that is either. It looks like it was deliberately cut, though.

[@richardmeredith69]

@George Washington another person angry because they don’t have a Luger !

[@donreid6399]

My Mom owned a 1917 Luger when I was a kid. I loved it when my parents and I would go to the range and they'd let me fire it. I also learned how to field strip, clean and lubricate it. I adored that pistol!

[@ScottAlanAnderson]

First thing that came to my mind:. Sootch has gone full Arte Johnson.

[@jaydee5156]

The most naturally pointing handgun I've ever touched.

[@governorg0096]

This my conceal carry for rest of my life from now.😂🔥

[@Joji-cx5ml]

based

[@jefft137]

The original wartime P38 had a steel frame and was manufactured by Walther, Mauser and Spreewerks. Walther post-war guns switched to aluminum frames. That said, I don’t pretend to be an expert but I own several and I think they are great firearms.

[@ShimomuraTakezoWong]

I first came across this weapon in 1969 when I was a kid, it belongs to my father's classmate who was a police officer and once in awhile visiting us he would remove the magazine and hand it to me for the entire time of his visit. I was taught to work the action, learn it's name that's why I still have memories of it. It was until 1993 that I would have a 2nd encounter with the pistol and it was during my U.N. peace keeping mission in the Bosnian war, particularly at Kronjic, the pistol belongs to one of my team members (he didn't say, i didn't ask how did he possessed it) i was attached with the 🇨🇵 1st. Parachute Regiment. I didn't get to shoot it as it was his private not issued sidearm. After my return from Europe, i joined a local shooting club and they had a couple of them for loan at the range and that was my only experience with it; 300 rounds 9mm between 15-25 metres range not that I didn't enjoy shooting it but was figuring how would it be for low light/night shooting... especially when the sights are black out...

[@John-ih2bx]

Thank you for your service. The Bosnian Civil War was horrific, I knew some of the victims in Mostar. Thanks to your father's classmate for making a significant mark in your childhood memories.

[@ShimomuraTakezoWong]

@@John-ih2bx you're welcome I'm retired now, 63 years old.

[@murphy4yt]

The Luger was the first pistol I ever shot, at age 6. My dad brought it home from the war.

[@neilreynolds3858]

That was a hell of a recoil for a 6 year old.

[@ohroonoko]

I bought one of these in Spain in 1981. It was my first pistol. Actually it was a cap gun key chain from a beach side souvenir shop, but you lifted the toggle to place the plastic cap in, and then pull the trigger to “shoot” it. Hey, I was 8 years old.

[@MrDavkoz]

Took mine to the range yesterday. Beautiful firearm made in 1940 with all matching parts, including the magazine. Was going to sell it, now I'm having second thoughts.

[@rubennasser6907]

The Navy Luger was adopted in 9mm Parabellum, not 7.65. And the WWII P38 had a steel frame, not aluminum.

[@ואדיםקליידמן]

"Люгер", один из лучших пистолетов всех времен и народов.

[@lybuicu2674]

I like that this dude doesn't even blink when he fires.

[@monitor1862]

One of the most beautiful firearms.

[@VCBird6]

I wish I could justify the cost of collecting one of these 😞 Good thing we get videos like these to sate us 😁 Quick correction tho: aluminum frame P38s are actually post ww2 (called the P1) All wartime P38s were steel

[@rbm6184]

V C Yes. This. All wartime P.38s including the frame are steel. All Walther made, Spreewerk made, and Mauser made WW2 Walther P.38s.

[@sandraherdman3783]

Only. 1500

[@VCBird6]

@@sandraherdman3783 Bruh that's almost two HOUSE PAYMENTS. For a safe queen! Nah.

[@sandraherdman3783]

@@VCBird6 think of it as an investment,

[@VCBird6]

@@sandraherdman3783 house>guns Sorry but the returns on real estate are way better than a pew pew

[@andrewbarten7347]

Makes you wanna shout "Raus raus! Schnell schnell!! " and have Knackwurst and sauerkraut for dinner.

[@rickrivers2909]

Great channel sootch00. love your mouse gun series of videos. They are so under appreciated, yet so fun to shoot! Keep on having fun bud!

[@Reichsadler-Germania]

Ausgezeichnet! Vielen Dank, für´s zeigen! Gruß, aus Deutschland!

[@BulletBra77]

Love the look of that toggle, it’s amazing how quickly it snaps back down while shooting. Even when I slowed down the video there wasn’t a clear frame of it up… just, wow!

[@Raider19582]

My favorite handgun...that I'll never own 😥

[@seanlambert8336]

Me to my dream gun. Paid a pretty penny but it was a steal

[@clamum9648]

@@seanlambert8336 Where did you pick yours up? I'm sure they quite expensive; at some point i'd maybe consider it, probably is they only get more expensive so it's probably better to get one sooner rather than later.

[@nerdyolddude4924]

yes!

[@moc6897]

... when I pass away, there will be something on the market ... :D

[@nedimyalin6060]

Türkiyede makaralı parabellum denir bu güzel makinaya. Karadenizlilerin en sevdiği silahtır. Bizim ülkemizde çok var. Ama çalışanı çok pahalı.

[@KappaKiller108]

I enjoy practical reviews of historic designs like this

[@A.G.798]

Die Luger P-08 ist mit der Colt Goverment 1911 ❤ die schönste Automatik Pistole aller Zeiten. Da sie schon damals Selten und Teuer war, wurde sie meist nur von Offizieren getragen!

[@audiehollon4292]

You look so serious while wearing the German helmet.

[@randallkelley3599]

Such an iconic gun. There was once a smith in Rocklyn, CA not far from where i grew up. He cut the Luger in half, rewelded the fram, attached a 45 cal barrel, and some $3,000 later one had a most unusual handgun. They were flawless, perfect in every detail. Those rare guns now command over $10,000 each.

[@paulmoss7940]

Great to see you review this old school tool, considering the popularity of 9mm today. Thanks.

[@СергейЗябликов-я8ж]

Браво конструктору этого настоящего инженерного шедевра! Данное оружие войдёт в историю на века. Спасибо.

[@jroch41]

Great review of an iconic firearm. Takedown was very detailed & interesting.

[@curtschmidt918]

I love the Luger P08, and Walther P38 9mm!

[@smokinjoe2539]

That's a very nice example of that pistol!

[@mikecampbell5856]

I recently shot one of these in the newer .22 version. It was so cool. One round ejected and went between the toggle and frame. A real bear to get out.

[@terryholloway9930]

Great review I enjoyed it always wondered how you field strip one thanks for all you do

[@bapi6643]

My father brought a Luger back from WW2. Since I was the youngest he didn’t want it around so he gave it to my oldest cousin. My cousin’s brother in law “borrowed “ it and traded it for a case of beer. Grrrrr

[@arborist460]

Picked it up off the battlefield….goosebumps

[@robertgreen4050]

You would fit right in on Hogan's Heroes

[@werre2]

In short: awesome, accurate, cool looking, low-capacity and ammo-picky.

[@juancarlosbelletti6335]

Gran pistola.y hoy en día son más buscadas que nunca.son de colección,y la que mejor estaba contruida fue la que se hizo en Suiza. Por su tremenda y precisa terminación,y era de calibre 7.65 botella. Osea que la vaina era 9 mm y la munición 7.65 esa era la pistola que portaba los de más gerarquia,que los soldados. Ellos usaban la 9mm.❤❤

[@ParisofthePlains]

Thanks for the history lesson sootch! Have always enjoyed your videos.

[@handyharvey]

That is one iconic pistol.

[@jamescarter4175]

That was fascinating. Danke!

[@Moroni108]

One heck of a cool collector's piece! That Luger and an M1 Garand (International Harvester) are at the top of my most wanted list. Thank you!

[@moparclan]

Good review as always, I was lucky enough to buy mine when the prices were very reasonable. $400 to $500, now ratty ones sell for much more than that. 1920 .30 Luger cal., 1936 (2), 1942 (2) with a newer Mauser Swiss model and two of the Stainless Stoeger's thrown in. Accurate and fun to shoot.

[@adrianpena8223]

Where and when did you purchase your Luger?

[@nomad753]

Man what a beautiful piece !

[@johndeere1951a]

Disassembly reminds me of a childhood wood puzzle styled like this Luger. I must have sold it years ago at a flea market to a gun enthusiast 🤣👍

[@ErichAmMeer]

I just bought mmy third luger p08 and get your video update. Wonderful just love it

[@brittakriep2938]

Was in 1980s only used as ,Kriegsreserve' ( emergency reserve) in Eastern Germany .

[@PATROITICWAYS1776]

Fun fact. That is a civilian German Luger P08 not a military. But it’s was most likely still used in WWII because Germany during that time was trying to get as many guns for the war as possible.

[@alexandruborodin755]

Let me give you some more inform. The first ammo was 7,65×25 Borhard,wich was used in borhard's pist mod 1893. The handle was 90°,and wide. So,when Luger decided to improve pist 1893,he used also 7,65*25 ammo,but mooved each cartr back and back to reduce handle width because of long ammo. Finally he got handle angle 115°. When Luger offered his pistol to swiss army,they asked him to reduce power,so he cut the case to 22 mm. They got 7,65*22 para. In 1904 he decided to improve power,and cut case on the 19 mm,and put bullet 9 mm with flat nose for better stopping power,but in the round mag. in artillery model,there were many problems with feeding,so he made an Ogival shape bullet, wich we use today. The oryginal ballistics of 9mm ammo is: 8 g.bullet and 330 m/s. So we should use modern ammo from magtech 8,03 g. and 338 m/s. It's ok. 390 m/s will destroy pistol. Modern power ammo 360, 390 m/s we can use in parabellum made in 70-th by mauser. They are stronger pistols with better steel.

[@alexandruborodin755]

@@johnklatt3522 probably you are right,it was a navy demand to be 9*19. I did not explane detailed. I am a romanian and russian speaker,not english.

[@alexandruborodin755]

@@johnklatt3522 you welcome!!!

[@CHEECHMUN]

My dad brought one home from WWll. I was so young, I couldn't pull the action back. He would let me hold it every so often. When he died, my mom was afraid because she had 5 kids. She gave it to my uncle, who knows what he did with it. Crying. I found one recently. I also was informed that it requires ammo that is at least 1200 fps to cycle properly and it does!

[@neilreynolds3858]

They are finicky with ammo. A gun dealer had me test his reloads to see which ones would work.

[@kisstagals]

Damn that ludger sound is so soothing...

[@markteaney8381]

I never understood why Ruger didn't. Make a 9mm in the mk IV 22 version the grip feels almost like the luger I think it would of made a fortune for Roger and been one of the best hand guns on the market.

[@hawkeyeinthehouse2995]

Thank you Sooctch for a NICELY MADE and INFORMATIVE VIDEO. I've been VERY FORTUNATE to have owned 5 of them but not at the same time.😯 It's a BEAUTIFUL WEAPON that is old but really doesn't look THAT OLD if you see one in PRISTINE condition. The older ones PRE-1938 are GORGEOUS because of the rest blue finish and the contrasting straw colored parts. I feel that they are AESTHETICLY a mechanical MARVEL to be behold. Best looking non CUSTOM PISTOL ever made and ACCURATE. I just wanted to inform you that there was one SIGNIFICANT change made in 1917, they went to a (short sear) instead of the long one, that was a SAFETY ISSUE. The pre-1917 with the long sear could NOT put the safety on before chambering a round whereas the short sear allowed you to put the safety on THEN chamber a round, definitely SAFER. I do a little gunsmithing and fixed 2 different LUGERS. I replaced the recoil spring on one, not too easy (38-40lb spring). Then the other was more extensive, I replaced the breach block. Had to STONE IT for the proper tight fit, Lugers were HAND FITTED. I've got one left because of financial problems back in 2008. The last one is kinda interesting because it has NO SERIAL NUMBER and is missing the German PROOFING MARKS but is in VG condition with a arsenal marked barrel that looks BRAND NEW. Not sure how or what I have but I'm HAPPY with it, works like a CHAMP after I installed a WOLFF recoil spring, striker spring and a Mec-Gar magazine. I probably have about $550 in it from about 7-8 years ago. Oh my shop is my kitchen with a small vise on the table and sometimes on the counter. That's what makes the task more challenging.😯😉😁👍😂😂😂

[@hawkeyeinthehouse2995]

@@johnklatt3522 You are WELCOME, I enjoy expanding my knowledge on things that interest me and WEAPONS of ALL KINDS and calibers interst me. My first Luger was a 1915 DWM (MAUSER), it had a long sear. My 2nd one was a 1940 S/42 (Mauser), it had a short sear. My 3rd was a late 1960s (ORIGINAL MAUSER made on SWISS TOOLING that Mauser bought from them), it was the 1906/29 design with the grip safety. KNOWLEDGE IS POWER, LEARN SOMETHING NEW EVERY DAY.😉👍😃

[@user-145edxX57]

It's a legend👍

[@InFlamesor12]

Such a Beautiful gun, only triumphed by the original Borchardt C-93, which is a personal favourite of mine. Such a beauitful desing. Also the Luger Selbstlader 1906 is a rifle but has a very similar mechanism, sadly it was never mass produced :(

[@CHEECHMUN]

I loved this review! You really look different with that helmet. I watch Hogan's Hero's

[@Felix-fy7ki]

The original name never was Luger P. 08, I don't know why it is called Luger mostly in the US. It is named the Parabellum P.08, according to this the ammunition was called 9mm (other Models 7,65mm) Parabellum. The whole family is called Parabellum Pistolen.

[@keefer88]

didn't know it wasn't designed for 9x19 initially. interesting!

[@b-2466]

I want a p08 so bad. Amazing weapon.

[@mylennyuym]

Nice vid ,as usual, I thought that was Artie Johnson st the beginning. LOL

[@mikeogden5256]

I’m surprised nobody’s making a clone

[@VCBird6]

They'd be more expensive than a real one, with the price of tooling and steel

[@mxhdroom]

They did... In the mid 1990's Mitchel Arms made one in stainless steel. Reliability was sketchy and the pistol was ultimately discontinued because it was too expensive to produce.

[@mikeogden5256]

@@mxhdroom oh wow

[@Hidalguense]

Check out Lugerman

[@khoff3480]

Ein Meisterwerk der Technik.

[@kevinmccarey5015]

Very cool video clip, on the history of the Luger, well done Don Be well

[@jager6863]

The 9mm Parabellum was introduced in 1902. The German Navy adopted the 1906 Luger in 9mm, not 7.65. Good review of a fine classic firearm. You should try and get in touch with "Luger Man" and see if he will loan you one of his 45 ACP Lugers for review, as they look pretty awesome. Thanks for all the great content.

[@donaldist7321]

The German Army still used it in the 1980s. I remember not being in love with it as a grunt, but then the German Army's current gun is not better.

[@Galahad_Du_Lac]

@@donaldist7321 Aren’t you guys using the USP now?

[@brittakriep2938]

@@donaldist7321 : In 1980s? Was never introduced to Westgerman Bundeswehr, Austrian Army ended use in 1966, Swiss Army ended use in 1975, and only East German Army had some still in storage for case of war ( to equip auxillary troops).

[@johnhouli3450]

Thank you. One nice piece

[@John-ih2bx]

Thank you for your video production. Great information, instruction, dis/assembly, history. Thanks to Fiocchi, I did not realize that they were US-based/made. As a viewer suggestion: I do not need the German helmet/uniform, your video is complete w/o them. Both my parents were deeply involved in fighting the Germans. I have subscribed to your channel. Looking forward to seeing more of your videos.

[@derdeutsche8888]

I love this Gun, and the Stahlhelm makes it extra nice 😁👌🏻

[@IshijimaKairo]

I wanted one since I was 14, it's just so good.

[@valentinhaita7184]

The guys from SS and SD has carried these Lugers P 08!

[@clamum9648]

Man I'd really love to have one of these iconic pistols. They're probably super expensive now though. :-/

[@antqav8r]

"Very Interesting"... haven't heard that in years.... but he had a cigarette to...great video

[@rubenlago7038]

MY UNCLES FRIEND HAVE ONE WITHTHE MAGAZINE TUMBLER .THE RIFLE STOCK AND LONG BARREL, IT IS LIKE CARBINE, EXELENT GUN LIKE ALL GERMAN INGENEERING.

[@herminigildojakosalem8664]

A few years ago, a co-worker brought his father's WW2 souvenir, a Luger in pristine condition, still beautifully blued. At the time we all had "modern" sidearms and this co-worker (then) seemed to be reluctant to show it off to our office mates as he was afraid to be "sneered" at as there was then a bias against "old and obsolete" guns. But even before I saw this video I already admired the Luger because since I was a young boy I was fond of WW2 movies. Now I bang my head against the wall for not making him an offer to buy it as I sensed that it was "useless piece of junk" to him and I have no doubt that he would have gladly sold it too

[@Quality_Guru]

The best part of this pistol is the out of ammo indicator. It's there in front of your face yelling at you "Hey Stupid, you are out of ammo."

[@purleybaker]

Great video. Thanks for taking the time to make it.

[@Sir-Vivor]

A day without a Luger is like a day without sunshine ☀️

[@curonianvikingidontcare]

Thought it was Chevy Chase in a German can with a pistol😂So much machining! Great workmanship!

[@External2737]

"A beautiful weapon for a more civilized time, maybe not" was classic. Amazing firearm.

[@Bristecom]

It was more civilized at times.

[@mikem2132]

Very nice, I’ve always wanted to shoot one! I wouldn’t trade my Colt Government Model for one though...

[@bdsurfer13]

Yes, iconic, first cap gun ever had was clone of this Luger.

[@bryanduchane2371]

One of your best videos ever!! Great job!!

[@bryanduchane2371]

Action is almost as good as a Swiss Watch!!! What an engineering feat to make this handgun!!!

[@resolution8516]

Precisely it was an Austrian engineer - Georg Johann Luger - who invented the Luger P08 ;-) ... Greetings from The Land of Glock and Steyr ->Austria :D my American Mates ! ... a few weeks ago i bougth a Walther P38 (190€ - would be about 170 $ i think) ...oh man i love weapons of this timeperiod! Still missing in my collection a 1911 and a Colt SAA :)

[@Mung1st]

I so badly want one of them, they’re so beautiful!

[@smileys7918]

I definitely need a Luger in my collection ASAP

[@sergeherreman2076]

Je viens " d''hériter " d' un P08 de 1917 d'origine. Resté plus de 40 ans dans les combles d'une maison dans le sud- ouest de la France. Il est en très bon état . Je vais devoir m'inscrire dans un club de tir pour le conserver ou alors je le vends à un armurier ou un collectionneur d'armes anciennes.

[@chuckskiles883]

Sootch looks a lot like Artie Johnson from Laugh-In with that old German helmet and glasses!

[@longtimber]

Most excellent Laugh In reference dude.

[@aamiraamir1023]

Unique toggle action system superB

[@jasonb7230]

if you release the tension on the striker the rear pin comes out easily, Its the same with assembly, hold the transfer bar on the side when putting the toggle in and the rear pin should just drop in.

[@kaylera1]

HA! Was waiting for the Arte Johnson reference