The German Meat Grinder - Ta 152 H-1

[@historicalwalrus589]

How the matchmaking at 6.0 has changed over the years is really something to see. You went from American teams dominqted by bombers and attackers 3 years ago to now having american teams filled with f4us, p51s and spitfires. Meanwhile german teams have 4 ju288s, 2 me 410s and like 3 fighters. Makes for interesting carry games thats for sure.

[@SupaMan2122]

American vs Germany nah nope it’s United Nations vs United Nations

[@Marco187Polo]

yeah i have had more than enough carry games on the german side in this BR 😂

[@TheAmazingCowpig]

It's kinda funny. Back in the day, I was grinding up US/UK, and the 5.0-6.7 BR range was the fucking bane of my existence. Teams were shit, Germans were always above you, and there were one or two He 177s that were still too fast and too high to catch. Impossible to play. These days, I felt like going up Germany again after stopping around 5.3 a few years ago... and now German teams are unplayable. I just wanted to experience what the heck the Ta 152H was all about... but it's not 2019 anymore. Wild.

[@josippetkovic389]

It's 4 288s, 1 410, 1 335 and you in D13 against full fighter team mostly comprised of p51hs, 4bs, 2gs and a spitfire

[@kingghidorah8106]

@@josippetkovic389 the Spitfire is played by Feet pics and he will rat inside that sigma F4U-4B's dogfights because that corsair kinda knows what he doin, so that Squishface can keep the "best spitfire pilot in game" title

[@pienter593]

The funny thing about the H1 is that your landing flaps generate so much lift that they're actually not that beneficial for when you're trying to land. It almost feels like you've VTOL capabilities lol. It really is something you need to get used to.

[@kingghidorah8106]

they're so strong that you literally nose down into the runway You will nose down nonetheless if you brake too hard when landing any Focke-Wulf

[@JohnyPhate]

Isn't that the case for most WT aircrafts since we have a super advanced fly by wire which we "abuse" all the time...

[@IHaevATajpo]

@@kingghidorah8106 yeah, all kurt tank planes have something with the flaps and the gear being strong

[@maximilianmustermann1278]

I just bellyland it. Then i wont flip over by braking….. and its good to deploy the flaps while still being airborne.

[@thomaszhang3101]

Tip from WWII pilots: to prevent nose over while breaking, alternated between left and right breaks. In WT, this translates to: hold break as usual when you land, but also press “q” and “e” and “q” and “e”, etc, until you stop.

[@partydeer1640]

Truly one of the planes in the game

[@kimonondrums7084]

easily one of the planes of all time

[@MrNextMx]

It's clubbin' time

[@nightlongvibe9942]

Clearly one of the planes in the war

[@no-legjohnny3691]

Not gonna lie, that statement really understates the raw power of this lanky monster. I feel like it should be a phrase reserved for extremely mid or worse planes. Because it carries the demeanor of "Yeah, it's got all the bells and whistles of a plane, but it's more of a convoluted and overglorified paperweight."

[@partydeer1640]

@@nightlongvibe9942 maybe even the plane of the whole war

[@thyunholysinner5389]

Dude your videos have helped me so much. Yesterday I got 6 kills in a air realistic match. I always steered away from realistic air battles until I found your channel. Thanks broski

[@cheesuschrist5017]

Great job mate! Here’s to many more of those matches.

[@kacper38]

Ta 152 eats everything that it faces. Something like defyn's mom.

[@hasnicktir5310]

Lool

[@thecreator9917]

she too big to be eaten by just one Ta 152. You need multiple

[@pienter593]

that aim tho. I've quite a lot of experience in this thing, but I can't seem to get used to the low velocity of the German cannons. Feels like you're throwing bullets instead of shooting them lol. Gj Defyn.

[@sherlocksinha2435]

Practice with the 4.7 109 G6 and you'll get a hang of them quickly. They shred if they connect tho

[@FLMKane]

Pretend that you're shooting a grenade launcher

[@sherlocksinha2435]

@@FLMKane more like a potato cannon

[@kingghidorah8106]

oh dawg, mg151 is quite hard to aim for me as well, but mk108 is easy. I have like a dead point between 700 and 800 m/s where I can't aim for sh!t

[@FLMKane]

@@sherlocksinha2435 saurkraut jar launcher

[@Feuervix]

Thanks defyn, germany 6.0 will be playable for some weeks now

[@maxthehack9072]

You mean unplayable cause all the low levelers will now play it. I guess it's better than them all playing bf109 g10s and doras

[@Feuervix]

@@maxthehack9072 you got it'll all wrong. It's because people will remember than the ta-152 exist and will spam less the ju-288, "MOST" bf-109 pilots are decent and doras are good bait since they can cancer roll forever

[@rednuclearmc3856]

@@maxthehack9072 as a 109 G enjoyer i resent that but yea

[@maxthehack9072]

@@rednuclearmc3856 the planes are good and i love the f4 and g6, but it's just that the late G models and K model (also Dora's, but only to 6.0) are often sucked into the 6.0-6.3 bracket of super props, where they often can struggle, and I see too often them not climb at all and just full commit ground attackers on the allied team. I feel like if there was a higher proportion of ta 152s, which are arguably more effective at dealing with super props, ( airspawns are part of that reason), German teams would do better.

[@maxthehack9072]

@@Feuervix I don't know about that. I don't think the people that spam the ju 288c are people that even care about German props at that br. Ju288c pilots seem to more often just be players that focus on something else, either top tier or ground rb, and are playing it to grind lions. I don't think many bf109/ta 152 pros are the ones spamming the ju288.

[@llCommandoJABll]

That last dogfight really made me want to see you fly out the P-47M and explain its strengths and weaknesses fully. I know it's a potent plane when used properly but it's always such a boat for me that I feel discouraged.

[@caralho5237]

Its a good plane when no one tries to dogfight you, or stay on your tail. If something like an 109 locks onto you even if he's 2km below you're dead, and he's never gonna be below you because the p47 climbs like shit

[@xavier4519]

@@caralho5237 not really, the P-47 is quite manouverable at high speeds when others compress, so as a last resort you can bait people into diving with you and reversing their ass

[@caralho5237]

@@xavier4519 Its not a last resort, its your only chance. If any german plane climbs you're dead, unless you're into side climbing for 10 minutes. If they turn with you, you're dead. If they fly in a straight line and give you an easy shot then sure, you may live. If they don't dive with you, you're also dead. Unless you camp the airfield like a pussy. Its a shitty, horrible plane, that some very skilled players can make work. Shitty nonetheless

[@crabpeople5541]

@@caralho5237 You have no idea what you're talking about. P47M climbs at 23.5 m/s at sea level and doesn't start losing HP till about 7 km. it gets to 6 km faster than a Bf 109 F-4. At 6 km a P47M is going to be faster, accelerate faster and even climb faster than a 109 K-4.

[@briannormant3622]

@@nahyeahwhatsahandle the stat card lie. Really, sometime when the enemy start camping there airfield i get bored and trie to see if I can reach the supposed top speed of the plane. Fully spaded mind you, and more often than not, (especially with old plane) the stat card is of bye 20-30 km/h. At the altitude stated bye the card, fully closed radiator, not diving/climbing at all

[@asadchatha4184]

I think of playing the K4 and the Ta152 like im playing COD on Veteran difficulty. 1 wrong move and the bots in F2G's will 1 tap you. Still a beast of an aircraft.

[@thefolder69]

152 isn't that hard of a plane to fly. honestly the F2G-1 requires more skill, if it weren't for the difference in numbers, since the 152 is a better turn fighter, which is not particularly hard to do.

[@pouletbidule9831]

@@thefolder69 right. Flying straight and spraying 50 cals is insanely hard.

[@thefolder69]

@@pouletbidule9831 yes, BnZ is harder than turn fighting with an airspawn. shocking, I know. I've flown both planes a lot, the F2G-1 definitely punishes you harder for making a mistake than the Ta-152H does.

[@pouletbidule9831]

@@thefolder69 no. You make a mistake. You run. That's it. If you ofershoot a spitfire or a zero it the Ta152, you're basically boned unless he misses everything.

[@thefolder69]

@@pouletbidule9831 if you overshoot in any plane, unless you're already going like twice the speed of the enemy, they're going to get a gun solution on you for a while. the only way the F2G gets a free run away like that is if he has a massive advantage, at which point *any* plane could get away like that. you have to never put yourself in a situation like that in the first place, which is easier in a plane like a 152 where you can get away with turning, so you don't need a big energy advantage to do anything.

[@SoreEater]

Ta152h1 is such a great plane for solo queue, you have a chance to deal with almost any kind of situation in it. The only drawback of the plane for me is how hard it is to keep a cool head and not overplay my hand after picking up a couple of kills. Btw, thanks a lot Defyn for staying active and making this great prop air rb content, the best thing about the game by far.

[@a10phoenix51]

one of the pilots of all time right here

[@pawzgamez9709]

This thing is criminally underrated.

[@MZIH]

The landing flaps is what makes it way better than it already is.

[@wuzz111]

Criminally expensive

[@irgiefarras]

Criminally ruined by ju288 spam

[@lukascholaj6842]

Is it really that underrated?

[@richardfreeman724]

It's stupid expensive for what it is, that's why I don't play it

[@Sultan-cf5wf]

The 5.7-6.7 bracket is some of the most fun you can have in War Thunder. Unfortunately, I think this bracket broke for everyone with the introduction of the 288. The 288 is a great lions grinder but the 288 is almost exclusively played by people who fly to a base and die or do nothing but bomb the whole match. It makes the bracket unplayable some days. The full lobbies with 7 or 8 fighters always always go good, whether I win or lose, just because it's that much fun. edit: My favorite plane to play in the whole game is the 152H, just because its so balanced and knock outs are so satisfying.

[@reinbeers5322]

F2G also kinda ruined it with the influx of bad players in undertiered superprops bringing down the BRs in the late prop section of USA air.

[@schaddenkorp6977]

Best moment I had in a 152 was when I one shot pilot sniped a Superfortress at around 600m. Completely by accident no less, accidentally bumped the mouse.

[@schaddenkorp6977]

With the 30mm.

[@norinco8724]

easily one of the most planes in the game

[@stigmautomata]

yall comment this even on good planes

[@frederickpahl872]

The Ta-152 is definitely one of the planes in of all times

[@BungusTheDestroyer]

Sick Reddit copy pasta

[@norinco8724]

@@BungusTheDestroyer square up little boy

[@ccramit]

So i haven't played much since February. I played a few hours last week, and decided to jump on today. Generally, I get one or two kills before being eaten alive by the enemy. But today, I kept hearing "target prioritization" in my head and remembered all the stuff you teach in your videos and finished a game with 4 kills and 2 assists. All from not being too greedy and targeting the more dangerous planes first. I generally just go after the first plane I see and get tunnel vision, even though I know there are other enemy planes around. But I decided to have some discipline and peel off when I couldn't get a shot. Felt weird not going after a potentially easy target, but it def helped in the long run as it was one of my best matches ever. And to top it off, I actually had dogfights and it wasn't shooting down planes flying in a straight line because the player was AFK.

[@planetsized]

nobody notice messer smitty cleaning up the enemy team in a He162? very nice

[@galvaniclegend917]

Woo! Another 152 revisit! Love this plane and you fly it to its absolute peak. o7 man! I’d love you to revisit the Dora’s at 5.0!

[@lukascholaj6842]

11:20 why did you want to land so much? Plenty of fuel and ammo left for one guy

[@DEFYN]

Because i am already next to the base anyway And before everyone suddenly died out of nowhere it was potentially going to be a 1v3 In the end it was probably a mistake

[@Richwiking318]

Seeing no jets in these games brings a tear to my eye

[@teo3746]

Early jets are trash anyway

[@liormalka8246]

as a p51h player, this is the scariest damn plane ive ever seen at 6.3. Even in my f-80 or f-84, if i'm low on speed, they'll be little rats and just boom n zoom me when im low.

[@FLMKane]

Haha you shot his left wing! He had a hole in his left wing!

[@TSkillessB]

The Ta 152 H-1 is one of few German planes I really enjoyed. Glad DEFYN made a video on it Im bad at german planes

[@1uca_]

Hey Defyn, if 6.0 Germany is causing intense suffering, there's always the IL-2...

[@cojoe4896]

Love this dud, bro's always got funny one liners after a kill.

[@Blitzcreeper239]

4:05 everyone's saying "one of the planes in the game" but is no one gonna talk about how Renamed is quite unarguably a few of the most players in the game

[@SotGravarg]

You are a true master of air battles!

[@Juho-uf8si]

awesome, i was just watching some older videos about this matter lmao. got my first 12.7 jet yesterday so this came in a good spot

[@user-ns4zm8qe9p]

I had an awesome dogfight with one of these in my P-63 A-5 and managed to win, idk how because I suck at air but I watched your tutorials to try and get better

[@christopherchartier3017]

The P63A5 and P39N are the most undertiered planes in the game next to the F4U-1A

[@user-ns4zm8qe9p]

@@christopherchartier3017 I agree can’t believe it’s fighting early war planes

[@alexgiurescu7553]

Damn, thanks for featuring my favourite plane. It's such a beauty in my opinion

[@TeenWithACarrotIDK]

Definitely agree. There are many versions of the fw190 that are truly great looking.

[@kane-111]

"And they're going to run trains on you, like they did on your mom" omfg I was not ready for it LOL

[@tsd_ju7084]

lol... MesserSmitt actually getting a cameo in a DEFYN video... and in a 162 no less. How funny xD

[@eklhaft4531]

They raised the price to 35k SL shortly after I first unlocked it. I wanted to upgrade it but was broke on SL (I still am) so I flew to space and got like 1 kill in 10 battles. I didn't mind the lost games but I coudn't afford to die with less than 5 kills which I rarely get even with spaded planes.

[@DaisiesTC]

If you feel a game is unwinnable as the last person left, your best bet is to just land at the airfield and J out. It doesn't count as a death. You'll have a much better time if you play as a support. Don't have to dogfight if you're not confident in your abilities, its still very good strictly supporting your team or bomber hunting. You don't have to be a wasted slot on your team and drag out games for the enemy. Like you aren't going to really get any reward if you don't contribute outside of a tuppence of SL so you're wasting your own time too. If there's at least one other fighter on your team and they're not incompetent most games are winnable, or at least survivable while still helping what's left of your team even if you don't have God aim. Just don't over commit on anyone when there are planes above you and you'll be fine.

[@lukavmineav3489]

Man these vids along with your beginners guides give me confidence to go into Air RB, thanks man

[@spyous7884]

That renamed throwback. So nostalgic, I wonder where he is now?

[@Radju22]

If he pitches up for us he dies, if he doesnt, well… you guess it, he dies.

[@oskytel3780]

The piano at the end was heartwarming

[@_GODSFIGHTER]

The 4 ju288s in your team at this br every single match is so real 😭 but at the same time i like the challenge a bit when im using my beloved K4

[@prso5587]

That chat spamming message is probably the most annoying thing that can happen in war thunder, more than getting shot by teammate

[@yobs6480]

The tempest is presenting himself to you

[@Klonnno]

The FW D13 is also a meat grinder.

[@JelqSmith]

Best prop fighter in the game tier for tier by far

[@sauldemo666]

Thanks 💛

[@judet2992]

My god those WINGS

[@ricardoricardoricardoricardo]

Duelist named Renamed lol. That's 50% of the playerbase.

[@DEFYN]

the duelers know who I mean

[@JohnBrowningsGhost]

Not my fault Gaijins lame admins don’t like my names.

[@martijn9568]

@@DEFYN I figured that much.

[@andrewduan5123]

Nothing like a good team mate whose willing to steal all your kills and shoot you down in the process lol

[@PolenmarktZigaretten]

That plane is really fun in SB.

[@BazzRahulGaming]

Perfect ❤

[@HighjeX_]

I love this thing bro, its sooooooo good

[@thisguyyyyyyy2723]

Idk what they did this patch, but I’ve been killing AI medium tanks with German 20/30mm Minengeschoss shells. Only takes a couple shots too, unlike light pillboxes. Hoping it isn’t just a bug. Edit: Also, the Shackleton is bugged. It usually stops taking damage from fires once surrounding parts turn black, instead of causing them to break off.

[@maximilianmustermann1278]

Would be just fair for the mg151 to be able to kill light tanks. 50 cals have a shitton of ammo and can do that too….

[@reinbeers5322]

Yeah I've been enjoying that too, even heavy tanks seem to die in just a few hits.

[@IvanBaturaChannel]

Overpressure bug?

[@TheParchisi]

Same thing with the B-24. It'll burn and burn but never break up.

[@humzaakhtar9208]

Oh I might just strafe tanks then instead of trying to use cannon birds etc, I've noticed being able to kill the tank in test drives recently so I'm wondering if something is up, also is armoured targets 20s good for ai tanks?

[@Unitra2550]

Let's go defyn flying another one of my favorite props

[@resperationz]

petition for defyn making a dutch video

[@brodymontague9433]

was wondering if you cold try out the French VB. 10-02. It's certainly a weird and interesting plane.

[@johnathanburke4872]

Like a professional

[@mustangproluckyh.3686]

I was the arado you saved I was on the deck ratefighting with him for a while

[@giacomoditonno6224]

I'd love to see a video on the uptiered to oblivion j21a2

[@Durakine]

That Shackleton was insane. Is that normal? xD

[@lomaalexmichaelm.8902]

@ 0:20 even Gustavo Fring donated

[@spacetoxicology]

my name is Gustavo. but you can call me sus

[@parvuspeach]

dayum, imagine playing against Defyn and Messer_Smitt , eh

[@Bdb-hp4tq]

Man, I really do not like that plane lol. I really like flying my f2g but other than the yak3u it's one of the only planes I'm actually scared of. Fighting the c version is always a cake walk but, even at low alt where the f2g becomes a monster the 152h can always dunk on me. I'm trying to grind out Germany to try it for myself.

[@sparkling925]

youre better off playing the k4

[@dudus9287]

@@sparkling925 K4 is overtiered, it should be at 5.3 beacuse it'll always be in match with OP P51H's which do everythin' better

[@mails5054]

@@dudus9287 probably but same as any other 6.3 super prop, the k4 doesnt have some great energy retention and climb rate tho

[@nebunezz_r]

Can confirm, I'm the diving Ta-152 H1 you always face in your 300m alt F2G

[@moxie_ST]

Thanks for video Man 👍 Demmm , talking abut slow burn 🤔

[@justaordinaryloser]

love it man keep it up

[@vectra9_957]

Sideclimb, the plane.

[@friesguy2403]

this is the kind of guy who wins every chess game

[@DocProfit]

It sucks that 6.0 is an unbalanced mess because of JU288s vs F2Gs. I just avoid it.

[@Jaeger_89]

Ultimate Gigachad plane...

[@Santi-bt7if]

I love how there is not a single F80 in the video, because even Defyn knows that there is not a single reason for the Ta to face jets. I mean he even admitted that a well played P51H can be virtually untouchable by a Ta152, so what hope does it have against an F80?

[@xlightningwarx_str8431]

Hell yea love the gameplay, hey you should film with oddbawz but on your channel and in the air, love the content

[@112mirai]

lol i was just watching this yesterday thinking when and will you make a video on the ta 152

[@bobmarley1686]

And he still had time for a “Your Mom” joke 😂

[@Asspiss100]

Going back to these older videos really makes me appreciate the consistency throughout the years...hell, 2+ years ago i was still trying to figure out how to goon properly...oh how far we have cum

[@rokinz3270]

Took this out a few days ago, a 6v6. I got six kills 😊

[@jmirsp4z]

all hail the slenderplane!

[@phoenixgn9655]

I Wonder what do i have to do when i start dogfighting a F2G or P51h on this plane, those two are my nemesis

[@ыцццФццц]

Be above, dive, be sure that it is 1 v 1, dogfight on low speeds with your cracked flaps, easy clap of American ass

[@svartmetall]

The immortal Shackleton...

[@ernest759]

How in hell did we get a Eva Elfie sticker in WT before a Defyn sticker

[@williammontgrain6544]

Turns out American 20mms are good for side shooting some medium tanks. Took me a year to figure that out.

[@-Shadow__Rider-]

This things engine intake texture has been bugged for the last few months and Gaijin still has not fixed it.

[@mochabear88]

pretty plane

[@Sonic_5342]

emm, could I practice some dogfights with ya, master?

[@funkkymonkey6924]

The Iron Shekelton

[@ApokalyptikNM]

I had a dogfight in the he162 against a f2g.. as I was turning toward him here comes a 288 who I told to go away.. he said no i will help.. replied I don't need help.. he comes anyway.. and me and this f2g are both neck and neck and the 288 shoots me instead of the f2g.. so with what engine power I had left I turned and shot and killed the 288 and told the f2g to kill me..

[@SukhoyBoy4113]

"hÖney, I'm home."

[@kevinvanderstoep3638]

Ik denk dat je niet volkomen begrijpt dat er ook gewoon spelers tussen zitten die dit voor de lol doen. Aan je reacties te horen over friendly Fire en killsteals ofzo. Je maakt geweldige video's en ga vooral zo door. Alleen je commentaar lijkt soms op dat van een puber.

[@WorivpuqloDMogh]

Top tier is veel erger. Vaak neergeschoten door een friendly missile lol. Flares en chaff helpen niet altijd. Kill steals kan je vermijden

[@SupaMan2122]

14:50 a blueberry that listens I’m shocked

[@oskytel3780]

I am baffled as to how this guy controls his camera.

[@Icetubexd]

Mouse button free look+zoom. WASD+E/Q for everything else. Thought it was impossible 2 months ago, now I'm doing it as well. Keep an eye on your numbers top left whole doing it, especially altitude, the rest will come by naturally.

[@DankNoodles420]

Could you do a video on the BF 110 G4 (the night fighter version with the rudimentary radar&Schrage Musik upward firing cannons to shoot bombers from below.)

[@Abdulrahman-sh7ov]

Bro I can’t do shit in this plane I always die

[@comrade4329]

Will you make a video on the ta 154 ?

[@Jepicus]

defyn

[@YoRHaUnit2Babe]

jesus the 152 turns so rediculous at 1Km

[@akomara1]

What they did to the ANM3’s is a travesty. I swear they nerfed the .50’s as well and the mustang airframe.

[@bezimienny_andzej6425]

Edit: OK, question beloe has been already asked and answered, so you can safely ignore it :P Why would you RTB in Ta-152H while having 262 20mm and 53 30mm? Just climb at 97% throttle to avoid overheating the engine and you're above the enemy. THe only situation where landing is viable is: - damage sustained - v. low ammo Neither is the case.

[@Megax6271]

The point of this Plane Is that the average player doesn't know how to use the flaps

[@hueni3893]

no tickets can overcome skill

[@cheezkakeproductions]

C3! C3! C3!

[@ibanana1871]

❤

[@andrewyurkiv9605]

Hey mr Defyn. Have you heard that Ho 229's FM has been changed in this update? Is it somehow playable now?

[@Taffaff]

He did a video covering the changes this patch and said that the change on the 229 was the ailerons and that it wasn't too substantial

[@fate3071]

I definitely prefer the C over the H. Not sure why, but I always perform better in the C than the H

[@edwardking9359]

Big cannon that can actually hit things, plus four 20mms. Guns.

[@fate3071]

@edwardking9359 yeah, it has better firepower, but theoretically the H should have better flight performance

[@edwardking9359]

@@fate3071 Depending on your skill at flying, firepower can be more effective than performance in certain situations. If you only really know how to boom and zoom, firepower is gonna be way better, for instance.

[@DaisiesTC]

The C and H are pretty substantially different. You fly the C a lot more like you fly the D9. Faster in a dive, better roll, it's stronger in headons, while the H is more of an energy fighter and tuned for dogfighting. Main issue with the C is that it can't really hold its own as well when at a disadvantage against a competent player, the H has more options, so you have to play a lot safer and focus more on supporting and relying on teammates.

[@fate3071]

@@DaisiesTC that's funny. German matches at that BR are 2 fighters and 4 bombers almost always, or 1 fighter 1 attacker

[@doolittle7332]

NG meat grinder

[@ASPCTpl]

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