The Gibraltar Incident

[@jakeski3142]

I really hope they make this game multiplayer. This would be epic to have commanders in charge of the various rolls with an overall commander. Jive takes the subsurface command, someone gets jamming, someone gets BARCAP, someone gets SEAD. Damn I hope they do this.

[@sylwus83]

Wow seeing Rear Admiral Jive Turkey back in streamng games maes me so happy. Streams from Cold Waters kept me going when I was staying in hospital with my daughter who was diagnosed with severe heart disease. Sleepless nigts next to her bed....I was able to stay sane thanks to Jive....thank you Sir!

[@_R-R]

Is she doing ok?

[@sylwus83]

@@_R-RYes Sir. She had the surgery and everything is fine but the moments of waiting for the little one to wake up and then try to give a 3 yr old baby medication through injection also sleepless nights being afraid? Well I consider myself a solid man but i just collapsed inside because of the fact there was nothing I could do as a father as a man to get my baby recover. It needed time. Thanks to Jive I was able to keep my mind straight and grab moments of joy when I really needed them. Thank you for asking 🫡

[@magnubeido8832]

​@@sylwus83 glad your daughter is doing better

[@leighbellouny3904]

I missed that burn notice styled intro more than I realized

[@stevebarnett-f5o]

So much better than others showing this game, Harpoon2 30 years on. Great job.

[@mikedignum1868]

He's Back! What no British ships at Gibraltar, military cutbacks are bad.

[@hernerweisenberg7052]

Their crew wasnt diverse enough and had to be relieved of duty.

[@ziggelito]

just change the designation from "merchant" to "Q-ship" in the afteraction repport and you should be good, not like anyone is going to dive down and check

[@_datapoint]

48:32 In Tom Clancy’s “red storm rising“ in the chapter “dance of the vampires“ he mentions how one missile would fly at a higher altitude than the rest of the missiles. This was in 1986.

[@judyhopps9380]

I wonder why... 😕

[@ДушманКакдела]

Tom Clancy was known associate of spooks galore

[@TyLockton]

Thanks for the content Aaron. Glad to see you're back with some great gaming vids.

[@ThaShaydeeSaint]

Love that you're back Jive! Long time fan.

[@colestonebraker4539]

"MAKE IT LOUDER COMRADE" needs to be a meme, that is beyond hilarious!

[@danielsummey4144]

As complex as this game appears, these surface fights are extremely simple. You CANNOT sit back and just let them shoot missiles at you. They will literally pick you apart, and every missile that gets through is a kill and will substantially reduce your ability. You saw this here. One missile got through and you lost a cruiser. This is World of Warships. This is literally a race to 1) spot the enemy before you’re spotted and 2) get missiles on them. Those enemy helicopters should have been your first mission. You’ve got fighters and you’ve got a frigate. Shoot them down. Then use your own helos or AWACS to spot the enemy and get ordnance on target. You absolutely can’t fumble around while they’re lobbying thousand KG missiles at you.

[@MandolinMagi]

Yeah, he's spending way too much time watching missiles coming in and never seems to get around to throwing together every plan he has to hit the Russians

[@julianstark9483]

So happy to see you stream! Also super exciting to watch you play Sea Power! :)

[@davidwhitfield6025]

Great to see this scenario from the USN view. Also a relief to see they have fixed the abysmal AA of the USN. They actually hit better than 50%. Actually amazed the Perry lasted so long. The Little Perry that could! I think your jamming efforts really helped as well. Breakthrough has been buggy and crash proned for the past few weeks.

[@hernerweisenberg7052]

I dont think there is any real life data besides testing in controlled environments on the effectiveness of ships air defences, since there ha not been any peer to peer naval engagements since WW2. Also HMS Sheffield, USS Stark and recently the Moskva all got hit by anti ship missiles despite them having defence capabilities on paper.

[@freddyfox5002]

"Somewhere in the Mediterranean sea" Crimsom Tide line 😂😂 Opening monologue

[@blake9908]

The SS-N-12 works like this IRL and in the game: One missile flies high and keeps its radar on looking for targets, the remaining missiles remain sea skimming. If the high altitude missile is shot down, one of the sea skimmers takes its place. As the missiles get closer to the target, the missiles communicate with each other and they each pick out their own targets with each HVT recieving more vampires. In the game and IRL you can launch all of your Shipwrecks into a pack of ships and trust the missiles to do their jobs.

[@technocardy]

Man, you're awesome. Just discovered you, almost insta sub after your intro. Obligatory, but sincere thank you for your service. I'm writing this on Oct 20, 2024 and it's TORTURE waiting for this game to come out. Your vids are definitely gonna help ride this out!

[@JacoSmitZA]

I WANT TO PLAY THIS SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD!

[@timkirby5179]

Great stream. Cheers Jive. It shouldn't have been but your unaccounted for Harpoon incident was funny.

[@GutkowskiMarek]

@12:44. Steve Rogers "I understood that reference" Jest aside. Polish Mech. Inf.(reserve) greets US Submariner (ret)

[@AFNacapella]

"we have the most sophisticated computer powered sonar system." "da, but zis one goes to 11"

[@Deltarious]

Because it came up several times during the stream- the AMRAAM was in service/deployed in 1991, it was in testing a little before then and so I suppose theoretically could've seen service in testing earlier- I have a source that says the first sucsessful test was in 1982 and the development seems to have been protracted and had quite a few issues but details on those issues are very scarce Edit: a little more detail, it seems that it was in low rate initial production from 1987 and that some of the earlier issues were related to massive cost overruns and delays, then possibly performance in hostile ECM environments, which they did not even try to test until '86. It thern still did not reach initial operational capability until '91. Sounds like some of the projects you cover on sub brief!

[@mpelzer24]

Right after the Gulf war. If I'm remembering correctly it got its first shoot down enforcing the no fly zone around Iraq not long after the war ended.

[@bigsarge2085]

Entertaining as always!

[@spiff1003]

I think you are good with talking about the russian missiles. It is common knowledge that they have this one missile up high scanning for targets and if it gets shot down, another missile will climb and take over command.

[@Baconatorz]

Common knowledge for a long time, Tom Clancy even wrote about it in Red Storm Rising.

[@cjwiesner]

Would putting your jammers in the air sooner and actually jamming probably have saved the Yarnell in retrospect?

[@dcbadger2]

You should launch Air Force tactical jets like the F-15 and F-4 in flights of 4 instead of pairs. It maximizes available firepower and is also more tactically accurate.

[@TheFreaker86]

48:50 Another KZbinr playing this game talked about this, so that’s how I know. The missiles fly as a flight datalinked together. One stays at high altitude to gather radar data and sends it down to the other missiles. If the missile up top gets shot down another from the pack takes over.

[@keondricpaigg7375]

Sadly sub school doesn’t teach how to use whiz wheels anymore the amount of sonar techs we get that say they have never used them is insane

[@hawkman302]

The actions of the anti ship missiles are already public. It is pushed as a feature when they came out with new missiles. If the high missile is destroyed, a low will go high to get radar data so the group can continue.

[@Real_Claudy_Focan]

He should learn to use CTRL and SHIFT keys to set several orders and movements in a row and spread out attacks.

[@williamdufour]

The P3 Orion do have an harpoon loadout

[@leebyrd1434]

Damn, Jive! I'm gonna have to buy this game!

[@AFNacapella]

you should have wikipedia open to see which info is already public. I've heard others talk about the formation attacks in this game and RL in more detail.

[@M3talr3x]

He blows it out of proportion forgetting that was close to 45 years ago

[@MandolinMagi]

Nothing about Russian missiles is secret, he's being dumb.

[@accretor]

Canada operates Victoria-class (formerly British Upholder-class) submarines, not Oberons.

[@ChildOfVendetta]

F4s at 2000ft, missle at 15000 ft...

[@cjwiesner]

I saw this too. Launched his aircraft but didn't set the altitude on his F4s

[@hphp31416]

would Nixie work against soviet wake homing torpedoes or only against western acoustic ones?

[@milossarkissian2606]

Another good one!

[@ronburn]

Where can you purchase your slide rules?

[@Sommyie]

Heck ya, navel games are what I'm here for!

[@ColonelEviscerator]

No nukes in a Cold War-era game? How can they claim any semblance of realism then?

[@Italianplayercvu]

They are honestly boring and hard to model, but i support them for stop-the-sub scenarios.

[@luchs2907]

HOLY SHIT HE IS GAMING

[@killerbeemedia6444]

BEEN WAITING Aaron !!!

[@stevepirie8130]

Seen this scenario from the other side and the Soviets have a pile of naval aircraft coming.

[@MichaelEngelhardt-w9d]

Very unfocused, shoot one helo down, f-15 turns and 2 more helos on same distance moves on😢

[@red_dragonracingsilvereclipes]

looks like you should have at least the AGM-12 anti surface air lunched missiles since those were made back in the 50s or newer models .

[@MandolinMagi]

AGM-12 is long out of service, the F-4s do have AGM-65 Mavericks

[@TheFreaker86]

Is this a self created scenario?

[@gregpope4652]

Cool :)

[@blake9908]

is the SM2 reliability too low for real life?

[@mabinogion7023]

With the Perry, your ciws is on the rear and your 76mm is amidships so looks like you were too bow on tothe ssn19 forthem to bear.

[@SparklesMcFartyPants]

Is it me or does the Formation Manager seem a little 'wonky'?

[@unable2pwn]

What about an American Falklands intervention?

[@magrathean0]

You mean there is more?? Jive ..i / we am not worthy

[@FMJIRISH]

Someone informed on you to the FBI?

[@MandolinMagi]

Yeah, apparantly he said a bit too much about some sonar system and the vid was pulled

[@FMJIRISH]

@@MandolinMagi ooops haha