The Girl Who's Scared of Everything Watches *THE SUBSTANCE*

[@LovellTrin]

so perhaps i misinterpreted some parts of the movie LMAO whoopsies !

[@milo-ru3hc]

i love you but i spent half the video saying “no that’s not it…” 😭😭😭

[@avery444baby]

You kinda do that a lot

[@autothots.rollout]

And I love you for that

[@gusy629]

Please react to Evil Dead franchise. 😈👻😊

[@joshy1477]

and you are so miss diva for that 💞

[@Grace-cl5qw]

I interpreted it that they did share a conscience, and Sue acting out against Elizabeth was a manifestation of her self-hatred :(

[@lovingnabi]

ME TOO!! she hiding elizabeth to me was like when someone try to hide the parts of them that they find ugly

[@1337six]

This is exactly it

[@kaepiper]

Yes!

[@younglingslayer2000]

​@@lovingnabithat makes sense

[@howdyitsren]

she said so, something to the effect of “you’re the only loveable part of me” when she tried to terminate sue

[@packedentertainment2866]

The scene where Demi Moore’s character spends hours going back & forth in the bathroom until she decides not to go to the restaurant at all because she felt like she didn’t look good enough made me sad. Literally got me to cry cause it was so sad.

[@milo-ru3hc]

the whole scene i was sitting there going “noooo!!! go on your date!! he likes you!!”

[@ShoeOfTheDoom]

Yeah, and the fact that she was even planning on going on a date with him just because she wanted that ego boost from him fawning over her is quite sad too to me

[@amazontiger1568]

Yea and it didn't help that Sue's billboard was posted right in front of her window. It was just haunting Elizabeth and she didn't want to be Elizabeth anymore

[@packedentertainment2866]

@@ShoeOfTheDoom that’s true. I didn’t think of it that way. But that likely was the reason, she just needed to feel young again & for someone to make her feel that way. She needed just an an ounce of appreciation for her in current day rather than her past when she was younger.

[@fatoumatacisse3796]

Literally and she looked so pretty

[@ThePoisonLotus]

I think they ARE a shared consciousness, and Sue overextending is like someone being irresponsible and, for example, overdrinking, not caring about a hangover, because that's a problem for "future me". Sue killing Elisabeth that brutally is essentially self-harm. Elisabeth HATES herself, and as Sue, is actively killing herself slowly. When Elisabeth's og body finally dies, the screen flashes "REMEMBER YOU ARE ONE", and Sue starts crying. To me, that symbolizes Elisabeth/Sue finally realizing the sheer ammount of damage she did to herself, going to the extent of LITERALLY killing her own body.

[@rk1x92]

This is such a perfect way of explaining it. I feel like alcoholism/substance abuse has to be one of the many things this movie is talking about subtextually because the parallels are so spot on. Under the influence of whatever substance, you're reckless, impulsive, damaging to your own body, and sometimes even repulsed by the person you are when you're not under the influence. Then you wake up and have to deal with the consequences and hate how far you took it and how much of a toll your took on yourself, maybe vowing to never do it again, only to give in to it for the chance to relive that brief high. Then, the cycle continues until you fully self-destruct.

[@xblade11230]

Sue and Elizabeth are both selfish people

[@haventpickedanameyet2527]

Yea i thought it was like being so frustrated with yourself that you're not doing "enough" or that you're "lazy" so you punish yourself and spend all your energy overextending yourself so you don't have the energy to do anything so its a cycle Like depression kinda, its hard to explain

[@KIager]

Also quite literally "kicking herself while she's down." To death.

[@Marianne_000]

I agree. I think Elizabeth develops some type of split personality when she goes into Sue’s body and this worsens as time passes. Like how you mention we treat our future self as other, but here that false dichotomy is taken to a physical manifestation.

[@tetamale4280]

the fact that everything happens in the bathroom, being the place where you expose yourself the most and hiding the bodies there as if it were something shameful, is an incredible metaphor.

[@totallynotimari]

This reply is written verbatim elsewhere under another KZbinr’s review of this but I still find the original statement nice 😭

[@nbucwa6621]

This movie made me feel worse about my body until I saw an interview where Sue's actress said that she had to wear prosthetic breasts because her real breasts were not considered large/shapely enough to be the "perfect" body. It at least made me realise that our real life beauty standards are so toxic that even the woman who's body basically falls into every standard so perfectly that she looks like a barbie doll isn't considered good enough to play perfect naturally.

[@K-tw4wb]

She had to wear prosthetics to look more like Demi, but I get your point

[@osmanyousif7849]

I kind of knew that considering how in most of her roles she looks to skinny to be looking like the way she does in the movie.

[@wolflilly4555]

This made me feel infinitely better thank you. I am quite lanky and skinny just like Margaret and my boobs definitely do not look like that. So seeing her look like that with those prosthetics made me a little insecure.

[@SWEETHEART27997]

Very ironic, actually. .

[@Chuuzus]

whenever i find myself about to do something dumb i immediately think of Sue screaming “CONTROL! YOURSELF!!”

[@poem2myself]

Juuust wanted to 👋🏾 and say hi Chuu!

[@mostrandomchannelever]

Real af

[@cutiebabie0325]

who is this divaaa

[@maggoodee4638]

arianaa what are you doing heree

[@najwacarew6557]

HI CHUU

[@paniccrush]

I personally thought that the consciousness were the same, however Elizabeth did not want to face the fact that she was aging so, she detached herself mentally from her older self. I think that she treats Sue as "seperate" because Sue has all the things she values about herself which is her past beauty and vitality, while herself Elizabeth is what she feels is the worst part of herself being old and unwanted. I think thats also why during the scene where theyre both awake its her acknowledging she only values her past self not her current self which is why Sue destroys Elizabeth. The ending where theyre fused together is when shes finally forced to accept her insecurities and live with them. Thats why at the end shes happy cause she can finally see there was something beautiful and valuable about her as Elizabeth and she stops caring about others opinions.

[@osmanyousif7849]

Exactly, the voice from the commercial and from the phone call literally says this. “YOU ARE ONE.”

[@NR-di7cm]

exactly what I thought too

[@thicipaprika]

they are the same conscious, Elizabeth just doesn't understand that, she hates herself

[@456loveluck]

The part where she throws her snow globe at her picture, I can tell that's Sue 😅 And another part where she has gone crazy, removed her makeup and cancelled frank, That's also Sue 😢

[@elizabetha322]

this movie confirms my greatest fears about what would happen if we don’t stick to the schedules i make

[@lindseystein9676]

Schedules are important.

[@jhufffamily7920]

babe that’s just ocd

[@astoldbynickgerr]

Validddddd! Saaaaaame!!!

[@K-tw4wb]

I woulda died on the first week with my ADHD😂

[@livispuzzled]

no literally my ass can barely remember to take my meds i think i’d die 😭

[@Ava_falynn]

I think that anyone who would actually stick to the substance schedule is someone who never would have bought it in the first place because they are happy with how they look originally, therefore being in the other body isn’t as exhilarating for them as it is for people who would buy the substance.

[@UnBesoDeCristal]

Like plastic surgery done in moderation😊

[@thepriceisright048]

Fr. During the movie, I kept trying to think of ways they could have made things fair like Elizabeth going to find friends and a life outside of her apartment and Sue but then I was thinking that with that mindset, she would have never created Sue in the first place.

[@edicp6641]

girl they ARE the same consciousness that’s why it says remember you are one

[@tkak4]

but then when she wanted to change back, the other one attacked back. so it might be her subconsciousness instead of the consciousness. cause the older lady isnt even aware of whatthe younger self is doing. at that point they r behaving like individuals

[@hakaze6269]

@@tkak4 yes, there comes a point where elisabeth and sue sees herself as separate individuals, but ultimately in the end they are the same person. they are ONE. the movie is about self-hatred, elisabeth and sue thinks of herself as two different individuals because of how much she hates herself, it’s also a representation of how we treat ourselves when we’re at our “peak” (young, thin, desired) vs when we’re at our “worst”, we see ourselves as different entities even though it’s still us

[@tkak4]

@@hakaze6269 yeah i just wish there were some connections shown between them to show they r same person. maybe in behavior or habit which don't just go away. maybe like nail biting when anxious. but from the very start it felt like they were soooo different that its became slightly hard for me to accept that they really are same person. or else everything else seems great

[@edicp6641]

​@@tkak4 sue is still subconscious about her body just like elizabeth is. one example is the scene where the chicken lump appears in sue's body. its a deep rooted psychological insecurity elizabeth has. having two bodies where she feels different because of how she perceives herself creates a kind of split personality disorder

[@osmanyousif7849]

@@tkak4, I think if you’re familiar with characters like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, Sherman Klump and Buddy Love (Nutty Professor), or Mima Kirigoe and Rumi Hidaka (Perfect Blue), audiences will more or less assume that it’s kind of like a personality disorder.

[@alpatl]

The scene where Elizabeth and Sue are violently attacking each other is so real like it's such a raw depiction of the internal struggle between your true self and your fictional idealised self. Your true self hates the idealised self because they are everything you wish you were and the idealised self hates the true self for not being good enough but actually "you are one" - it's all you using your imagination to hate and punish and torture yourself. It's such a visceral, violent feeling and I think the scene being so graphic is what made it so cathartic to me.

[@KombatGod]

Yeah, well I wouldn't call that shriveling old witch her "true self". It's more like the idolized best version of yourself vs the grotesque caricature of the worst version of yourself. I think she only is her "true self" at the very beginning, when we first meet her... and in a different sense at the end when she gives up her physical body completely.

[@anonymouse903]

I think they are the same consciousness, the only way I can explain it is making an analogy pertaining to my eating compulsion when I feel so much hatred for me (the person who binged) and the "CONTROL YOURSELF" scene is the literal embodiment of that feeling.

[@dv527]

Too real, please stop 😂😅

[@hakaze6269]

it frustrates me that this film’s biggest discourse is if elisabeth and sue are the same when the movie quite literally tells us that a million times. even elisabeth’s actress, demi moore confirmed it in an interview. “remember you are ONE” “there is NO “she” and “you”, you are one” “you are the matrix, EVERYTHING is YOU” “i’m sue! i’m elisabeth! it’s me, it’s still me!” they are the same person, the same consciousness, they are one.

[@moonbyulsflatass]

THIS! why is everyone saying this is what they think happens or this is their theory, like no the movie explicitly says it- this is not an opinion or theory!

[@Moretropes11]

I think some people just can’t comprehend hating yourself so much. I think the thought of literally killing yourself out of self hatred and disgust seems insane to some people even though it is a very real feeling for a lot of people.

[@sanpapanpa8175]

i think the reason i was confused because i didn’t understand if the you are one thing was a reminder to take care of each others bodies or if the you are one thing was a reminder that you have the same consciousness and memories

[@astoldbynickgerr]

@@Moretropes11damn……..really? 😅

[@tpeyton2848]

It’s confusing because she doesn’t seem to remember the events that her other self did. So why would you destroy yourself if you’re not feeling the fame & beauty first hand. Like Elisabeth does not experience the joys of young Sue and so the motive is confusing

[@cromwellian1]

what hurts about this movie the MOST is that everything from how sue and elisabeth treat eachother to how they treat themselves shows you how much they deeply HATE themselves and can only experience "love" as it is given by the fawning attention of others, especially men

[@howdyitsren]

12:29 that’s not even Margaret Qualley’s body though. It’s still prosthetics, just subtle. Her chest is prosthetic, for example.

[@vampchic16]

I'm sure they also edited the actors skins to make them smooth and flawless no pore in sight

[@cracked1614]

@@vampchic16 nope but they used arri cameras which are know for this "unreal" look

[@toxicsugarart2103]

I first interpreted it as the same consciousness but neither version has the memory of the other. But after seeing other people's readings, I love the take that it's the same consciousness but there's like a mental separation, like "why did past me do this" or "that's a problem for future me"

[@tkak4]

yeahh thats the same thoughts im having. i dont see moments where they reflect on the other version's actions or give it a single thought which might confirm that they share the same mind. but instead they feel very much like 2 different people now having to live together. but i guess if the characters did reflect with each other, the ending might have not been so bad. I've seen someone compare it to a junkie and that makes a bit more sense

[@manateemoss4253]

@@tkak4 i wish there had been a scene of Elisabeth basking in what Sue did after she switches back the first time so that there’s somewhere to go when it starts turning to hatred and it shows the initial “benefit” of the substance that makes the user get “hooked”. For it to go straight to hatred and jealousy makes it seem like their consciousness aren’t connected and the “remember you are one” thing is just because Sue needs spinal fluid and came from Elisabeth’s body.

[@tkak4]

@@manateemoss4253 yess i that would have been perfect, not only to show connection and make it clear that they are one mind, but also make it seem like this is such a "great" product. maybe there is a chance it turns out good but for very few people and the company is only promoting those people and hiding the true horrors. making people seem like its such a worth it product

[@snoopyenthusiast]

elisabeth not reflecting on sue's actions (her own actions) is the whole point. elisabeth hated herself so much to the point of ordering the substance, in my opinion no one with self love would give it a try tbh, that's the first time we see her self-hatred. and every time "sue" takes more days than what it's supposed to be is because elisabeth is enjoying the feeling of being her other self, but ofc she hates switching back to the matrix bc elisabeth stopped having a life just so she could live as sue. she never accepts when they tell her that there's no "she" everything is on her, she just doesn't want to admit that she hates herself

[@tkak4]

@@snoopyenthusiast she doesnt even have to self reflect, but there should have been a scene showing her atleast accepting or liking the decision she made in the older form before it all went horribly wrong. or wanting to go back to the younger body and make herself fall asleep so she can go back, but that doesnt happen, making it seem like 2 different entities fighting for survival. one just lover herself and the other hates herself

[@justadrian56]

I love how at the beginning of the video Trin tries to edit certain scenes to be KZbin friendly but seemingly just gives up doing so near the end due to how absolutely crazy it gets later on lol

[@aliciamoon1937]

The nipple 😭

[@karlylane853]

they do share consciousness, they are one. it’s a metaphor for substance abuse, Elisabeth (who hates herself) gets addicted to being Sue and abuses the rules

[@TheBrownLamb]

But then why do the two of them always seemed shocked when they swap and something bad has happened!? Wouldn’t they already know?

[@staceyslay789]

⁠@@TheBrownLambso many times ppl tell themselves “one more drink, one more smoke, one more bite” and then the future self that is hungover or sick or whatever hates the past version of themselves for that, i interpreted sue and elizabeths relationship as something akin to that, she feels so good in the moment physically as sue (being drunk/high/hungry) that she doesnt care what it will feel like again when she returns to physically being elizabeth (hungover/sick/etc)

[@kmcguire05]

@@staceyslay789EXACTLY

[@injsctu]

Ive been so confused but this comment did it for me thank you😭

[@IrlMimaKirigoe]

I think they do share the same consciousness, Elizabeth just develops a bigger and bigger hatred towards her body while sue feels more and more confident in hers. So, sue just thinks that “she’ll deal with it later” disregarding her real body so she can thrive for longer

[@ThePoisonLotus]

17:40 the bathroom scene hits SO close to home. Wiping the makeup away THAT aggressively, almost like self-harm... Been there.

[@amandacasasbahia]

the relationship she has with herself is so horrible, violent and so real…

[@aylapreller1863]

girl the whole point is that they ARE the same consciousness 😭 elisabeth just hates herself so much and is quite mentally ill

[@darkmage5485]

I love how Trin got it in the beginning but lost the plot and editing Trin was saying she was wrong when actually she was right.

[@rehanpoonawalla7406]

Watched this at a film festival and the theatre was PACKED. might be one of my most memorable theatre experiences I've had in a long time. People were audibly gagging, laughing, cringing and cheering. By the end of it people stood up and started to clap, everyone walked out of the theatre with the biggest smiles on their faces and laughed on their way out😭 I don't know why but the eyes switching back and forth still grosses me out like how do you come up with something like that😭😭😭

[@davidgforlando]

Sue and Elizabeth are the same, the movie keeps repeating you are one so Elizabeth is experiencing Sue, and there's dissonance between both, and their confusion and anger at each other reminds me of like a person sober and the same person drunk may perceive things differently

[@Mrshatejb]

I don't think they were necessarily against one another, but being in Sue's body is exhillirating for Elisabeth and she turns into another person. Someone who doesn't have a sense of consequence or desire for the future because all she wants is another hit, like a junkie. They are one, but not really because the physicality affects the mind and creates another branch of consciousness.

[@JakeHarold_Serrano]

I’ve watched many horror movies, and they’re all cliche, but this movie is not only scary; it also depicts the reality of how dangerous beauty standards are and how harmful they can be to individuals. That’s real horror.

[@arnaurufs1129]

The way I understood it is that they are indeed a shared consciousness. The ads for 'the substance' within the movie emphasize a lot the idea that you are 'one'. I think that the plot of the movie is that, despite being a single 'person', that person wants to stay longer in the young body so she starts abusing the schedule because in the young body she is less aware of the consequences for her older self. When she switches back to the older self she can feel the weight of the reckless decisions she made while in the young body so they sort of start antagonizing each other, still being a single consciousness. Not only do i find that eventual 'duality' very believable within the context of the story and the consequences of using a product that makes you lead two very different lives alternating between both, but I believe it's realistic in general and people would naturally start hating their other self, despite being just one person. Thats why the ads emphasized SO much the 'you are one' part, because users of the substance within the story and in general would maybe start forgetting that they are in fact one. I mean it is at the end of the day a metaphor for women hating themselves for their past actions, their bodies and other women, but I believe the logistics of 'the substance' make a lot of sense. But that's just how I understood it :)

[@trinaq]

This film definitely highlights how seedy the entertainment industry really is. Also, naming the sleazy executive Harvey was both genius, and a great jab.

[@RogueVideoRaven]

Watching this was the best theater experience I’ve ever had because every other scene, people would leave until by the time the movie ended, there was only four of us left!

[@First_love_late_spring]

I have never understood leaving the cinema. if I have payed for a movie no matter how terrible it is I am watching it till the end 😭

[@Ashagagal]

I’m a little late but I had this happen with both Alien Romulus and Saw X, especially Alien for some reason.

[@trinaq]

Warning: This is NOT a movie you should watch while eating. I learned that the hard way... 🤢

[@syntheticsilkwood2206]

I watched it while eating breakfast

[@fatoumatacisse3796]

I could barely eat dinner after watching this movie

[@liberty6462]

i felt sick after watching it and couldn’t eat for a bit😭😭

[@matcha.cinnamon]

dude me too! i had to put my dinner down😭😭😭

[@amandacasasbahia]

i had like a whole mcdonald’s combo in the movie theater… girl luck me i finished before she injected the green stuff

[@HydratedAndrea]

I literally hated this movie while watching it and then went home and cried and then woke up the next day as the biggest fan 😂😂😂 this film is REALLLL CINEMA

[@moonbyulsflatass]

meee, i could barely watch it in theaters and now i wanna rewatch it

[@thihaaung647]

Wow... that was a hell of an experience you had. 😂

[@pdmuppidi]

“The enemy is the inner me” BARS

[@rescune4021]

27:05 sadly I’m pretty sure it’s inevitable for anyone who’d take the substance. Otherwise they’d never take it in the first place if they weren’t insecure, but the second they’re in this perfect flawless body then they’re never gonna want to leave it, they definitely know the consequences but it’s just how it is. It’s almost the same exact way how some young people rot in bed, do nothing all day, slowly eating away time from their older selves. They’d probably regret it in the future but they just love to rot in bed all day, which is basically me.

[@lovingnabi]

i think they do share the same consciousness, the movie says they are ONE many times

[@musicy.8638]

I interpreted it as they sharing a consciousness, but with Elizabeth living more and more the different ways people treat her as Sue, her self-hatred stopped her from coming back to her original body. More like a not accepting yourself thing. And eventually because of the black thing something strange happened and they got to split up.

[@shainewhite2781]

This is ultimate Body Horror Satire about youth and vigor, but at a horrifying cost. Today is my birthday, I'm 34 this year!

[@wasabikawa]

Happy birthday!

[@erinnadia0409]

Happy birthday! 💕

[@sadfucko]

happy birthday :)!!! 😊

[@angieb380]

happy birthday 😁

[@yummers9374]

happy birthday ❤

[@h4rp666]

"we saw something bizarre, it was your ass" 😭😭😭

[@bluecrucial]

I took it as an addiction to plastic surgery. If you stick to normal levels its fine but as you start pushing and pushing it becomes grotesque but you cant stop the cycle

[@MadcapMatt]

I had an idea of what to expect with this being a body horror movie but I was still blown away by those transformations at the end.

[@marshmallsy]

I think most commenters have already explained that they do technically share a conscience. I've even seen people compare it to the experience of being an addict, on drugs, binge-eating, making impulsive choices, etc., in that sometimes you'll do things that you know will hurt your own body but you decide that it's a problem for "future you". Also, I always felt like the point of the substance was that...there IS no point. The substance is just this movie's way of physically embodying the age-old question of "how far would you go to be young and beautiful again", something society is constantly asking us, and the answer this movie gives is Monstro Elisasue -- our own self-hatred, the weight of society's expectations of beauty, and the lengths we go to be a "better" version of ourselves makes monsters out of us all.

[@BradGanley]

They definitely do have a single consciousness that moves between bodies. She literally hates her aging body and sacrifices herself to live as a younger woman. It is a critique to on the internalization of women hating themselves to death for the approval of their appearance to others. I love you Trin but this video was profoundly infuriating to watch

[@editswbeth]

i completely agree with you. the entire point of the film was lost in this commentary and it felt like we didn’t even watch the same movie

[@BradGanley]

@ my wife was basically screaming “TRIN THERE ARE SO MANY IMPORTANT THINGS YOU COULD BE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU WERENT MISSING THE ENTIRE PREMISE HERE”

[@editswbeth]

this film felt so up trin’s alley! i’m really disappointed she didnt seem to grasp it 😭 i was screaming right along with your wife!!

[@gr3enivygirl]

agreeeee!! self-harm, self-hatred, the themes are lost if you think they don't share the same 'Elizabeth' consciousness and if u think they are separate like ya.. what's the point of taking the substance? But they are decidedly not separate.

[@editswbeth]

@@gr3enivygirl the way “you are one” is reiterated constantly too 😭

[@jerameyspann7047]

I viewed it as the same consciousness. However, since Sue is in a younger body (not sure exactly how young but still) I figured there may be a connection to her brain’s physical development. She’s younger, more impulsive, doesn’t fully think about the consequences of her actions. Not even mentioning the metaphor for addiction. Being Sue feels like a high! She gets everything she wants from life as her. Would you easily want to give that up for a life that you feel is fleeting? Probably not. Favorite film of the year! There’s so much to dig into and find meaning in.

[@esferasdenewton]

It is a shared conscience, the experience basically makes her split her conscience in two, that is the warning they gave to allways remeber "you are one",

[@micahangelala]

oh girl, i felt so fucking bad abt my body too when i watched this film. i personally felt so empathetic and understanding towards Elisabeth, and by the end of the film it made me reflect on my body image issues and it is truly a constant battle with yourself. i never thought a body horror would hit so close to home to many women. i enjoyed it nonetheless, despite not being a fan of body horror

[@paulinalopez10]

"im feeling worse about my body" "yes it is affecting me" you're real asf 💀💀

[@Ryusevi]

Margaret Qualley had body prosthetics just for her regular body btw

[@gr3enivygirl]

They are one consciousness though, Elizabeth just disregards the harm she is doing to herself. Elizabeth also lacks a life outside of her show and her appearances- she has no friends, family, hobbies, doesn't go outside- part of me wishes it ended with the old lady Elizabeth terminating Sue and her moving out somewhere and being happy. To me this movie is truly about self-hatred, that's the allure of the substance, Elizabeth has only ever been valued for her appearance and when she sees that her value in this regard is running dry, she has nothing left, prompting her to take the substance so she can face herself and feel valued the only way she recognizes

[@runarvollan]

When Monstro Elisasue finally accepts herself, she's called a freak.

[@mimik6414]

Both are Elizabeth living at the same time basically. But everytime she’s in Sue, it feels good which is why she keeps abusing the balance to stay longer. But the moment she’s back in the Elizabeth body, the reality feeling comes back and you’re thinking straight.

[@laurenb309]

the first movie to make me cry out of fear in a long time and yet i love it?? like the message is so striking and demi moore and margaret qualley have incredible performances too!! will prob never watch again but lovee it

[@Junemclovin]

Its like how if you decide to drink even though you have work tomorrow; tomorrow you will deal with the consequences but you now is having a great time

[@MollyMoon-j3f]

I saw a male reactor saying she must be super old to think 30 is young. 🤯 completely missing the point of the movie and literally acting like one of the men from this movie. Funnily enough the young actress is 30.

[@kendallmack8853]

i think there’s a huge emphasis on the lack of self control when it comes to protecting our older selves. i think our (woman’s) lack of value for our older selves starts at a young age subconsciously. we’re always told to fear growing old, and to live as if you might not ever even see those days, so i think a lot of people are reckless because they can’t consciously think of their older selves in a “protective” way

[@Yousifdiyab]

Honestly The Substance and Terrifer 3 so far are my favourite horror films to come out of this year from what I’ve seen. I will never forget the way my soul felt as if it left my body once Sue got turned into that creature. 😭

[@younglingslayer2000]

It actually came out of her back lol

[@hj5520]

My boyfriend fainted in the theater during the “birth of sue” scene

[@pearlmcj]

I made the mistake of watching this movie without any friends and I have NO ONE TO TALK TO ABOUT IT, and it’s killing me because this movie felt like an exorcism in the best way! I came out of the theater with my hair a mess and my glasses smeared because I kept clutching my head and watching through my fingers, and my body felt vaguely alien bc of how insane the body horror was. I felt similarly to you about the strange melancholy of knowing you’re supposed to be in your prime, most desirable state but not feeling or being treated that way. But the movie was also weirdly healing? I was the closest to feeling body neutrality about myself that I ever have been, knowing that while I don’t love my body right now, it will keep changing and one day I will long for it as it is now, but no matter how it is, it will be my body regardless. And no matter what a woman does with her body, it will never be seen as “enough.” So what will I do with it? Will I keep trying to deprive myself of delicious foods and hating how I look in clothes? Or will I just…live? I think the consciousness being shared but still hating herself in the other body is a really good representation of body dysmorphia and dissociation, and that feeling of hating yourself no matter what. It also made me so sad to see her younger self treat her older self with so much disdain, because that’s the exact treatment she feared and that pushed her to use the substance! She’s perpetuating the same cycle that will harm her, over and over! It weirdly made me think of chronically-online girls in their teens and early 20s talking down on any woman over 25 participating in fandom or online communities. They have no idea that they’re just feeding into their own fear of aging. I also think there’s something to be said about the bodies representing a mother and daughter, and how some mothers will look on their daughters with bitterness seeing them enjoy their youth in a way their mothers never can. And the way young people will indulge in ways that will come back to bite them in old age, but they don’t care, they just want to enjoy today! Their failing liver or loss of hearing or anything else will just be future them’s problem! Sorry for how long this comment is; like I said, I haven’t been able to actually talk to anyone about this movie 😅 but I’m glad you enjoyed it despite your confusion!! I understand where some of the criticism is coming from (not from you, just in general), but I’m still in a space of feeling like any movie that hit me so viscerally ultimately succeeded, no matter its faults. No criticism will change the fact that it felt like a horrifying yet cathartic visceral scream to watch. Not a lot of recent movies burrow into me like that, and for that, I will always love this movie 🤷🏾‍♀️

[@Rat-nn6hy]

My theory is that that were one conscious but they “split” once Elizabeth started thinking of her as a different person.

[@CorrectFossa]

29:55 Hey Trin, you missed a spot. Hope you can catch it before KZbin does.

[@mitchell7535]

I do just wanna let everyone know incase anyone doesnt know, Margret did wear prosthetic boobs for this role to purposefully over exaggerate her form, also makes it easier not to compare ourselves to her which plays into the overall themes of the movie imo

[@МаргаритаСереда-р9п]

I lost it at “is this a metaphor for abortion?” Lmao

[@babaleca1110]

They do share the same conscience, thats the point. Elizabeth was blinded by living as Sue.

[@trevormichael4906]

Precisely.

[@egg62]

In my opinion Sue and Elisabeth share consciousness but they each remember the "other's" experience like a sober person witnesses the aftermath of their drug abuse, or massive bender or binge. It's still you who did that, but it feels like you weren't in control.

[@fandomfandom4106]

you reacting to this made me so happy

[@swirlyferly]

i think it’s a great representation of how as women and girls we are told that we are only of value and beautiful when are of a certain age and when our bodies look a certain way and if instead of loving ourselves regardless of whether or not we are accepted, we can become our own worst enemy. As youths, we’ll have extreme fear of losing our youthfulness and value to others (can’t suck through a straw or we’ll get wrinkles or anti aging creams at 26 years old) and as mature women we’ll lose out on enjoying life due to our self hatred for not being young anymore and appealing to society’s standards. (plastic surgery, ozempic, or refusing to wear what we want or go where we want because we’re not young anymore and it would look weird)

[@rainbownator4488]

I see the film as Elizabeth having an almost split personality situation so when she's sue that's the sue personality almost like doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde cause the whole film is like "remember you are one" so they aren't two different people they are one but they themselves forgot it.

[@ilginilla]

she's better than me because i would fuck up those instructions so bad 😭

[@ajwest5663]

I literally said this. Im so bad with instructions, I would totally mess up something.

[@ilginilla]

@ajwest5663 they needed to add a youtube tutorial or something!

[@sehnisweet343]

aww the way your doggie got up to check on you while you were gagging

[@BrandonJames2016]

I had a great time with this movie didn’t know what to expect when I saw it in theaters and had a blast. When Sue wasn’t respecting the boundary I was like omg what is Demi’s character gonna look like now💀. That third act was insane and I loved every minute of it. Demi Moore was fantastic and I love the message of this movie how Hollywood is more critical of how women age vs men. Bc the people who weren’t getting replaced were the old men but the “older” woman in Demi’s character is the one to get replaced. Ugh and that mirror scene of Demi going back and forth hit so hard.

[@gwynythsears5097]

I think where you said “I’m missing the point of the movie because I’m just looking at how stunning she is” IS the point.

[@FaydayMayday]

The point of the substance (the product) is that you get to live vicariously through someone, except it's even more intimate because it's a version of you. That's why it's so important that you remember that you are one for the experience to be worthwhile.

[@damianstarks3338]

27:05 perfect advice for both these characters. Fantastic reaction to this insane new body horror movie. The ending is absolutely batshit insane

[@suspirinicolo]

CONTROL! YOURSELFFFFFFFFF!

[@456loveluck]

You control yourself, "Sue" 😑 she needs to take care of her............self

[@csophus20]

“surely there’s a scent coming from it at this point. like surely the rotting flesh and infected wound is creating an.. odor if you will” 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@fionawerkheiser7772]

LITERALLY like from the start the two sides of her personality didn't respect each other. girl naked on the bathroom floor?? not even a blanket?? I think her self hatred just manifested itself in Sue and made her stop caring about her real life and body.

[@mollyroot3389]

Trin explaining scheduling to us - thank you trin! ✨✨✨

[@sleepy-peepy]

I don't think Sue and Elizabeth are perfect 100% shared consciousness, it's more like when the bodies switch, they experience things on each other's end in a dream-like way. When you wake up from a dream you may not remember every single thing that happened in order, but you could remember the emotions you felt, the people you saw, and the big plot points. Sue abusing the substance for longer than she should is like Elisabeth not wanting to wake up from a really great dream.

[@elizabetha322]

the way that i just discovered this movie yesterday and my first thought was “i’d love to see trin talk abt this”

[@discount_dora]

i think they SOMEWHAT shared consciousness/memories. sue knew to set up elisabeth's food and knew to take stabilizer. elisabeth has a nightmare about sue's night with that first guy before she even woke up and saw the evidence of sue drinking. sue had a nightmare about the chicken drumstick in her butt before she woke up and saw the evidence of elisabeth eating all that food. but still, they are far enough removed that they make their own decisions while awake. i think their connection is like subconscious if that makes sense

[@oliversedgwick7236]

Yes, I Saw it that Elisabeth was the building block for Sue. How she knew how to function & about the industry etc- but from her birth, every decision etc was her own choice and separate. I do like the idea though that it's like an addict, Sue is the high and then Elisabeth wakes up foggy/black out and not remembering what she's done, hiding at home all week as well could be like that hangover fear/guilt when you don't remember what you've said etc. Really interesting when you get a film like this where everyone can take something different away

[@leecher1382]

Welcome to the world of body horror🖤 also this movie was phenomenal with the story, acting, effects Bleak ending but most movies like to give a happy ending so its nice to see the director go "not today"

[@alexkulungian8636]

loved seeing the girl who’s scared of everything reacting to THIS 💉 also heard and felt on how this movie makes you reflect on your own body. the mirror scene was my favorite part bc of how real it felt. thanks for the upload queen

[@DanisDiamonds]

thank you bc there was no way i was ever going to be able to watch this myself lol girl who’s scared of everything watches I saw the tv glow please? I watched it for the first time this week and I can’t get it out of my head

[@mariegaleazzi3972]

couldnt stop looking at your hair this whole vid omg its so gorgeous

[@unicornlion1037]

Thank you Trin for watching this with us

[@atianahurlburt2540]

GIRLLL you're body is TEAAA and you are JAW DROPPINGLY STUNNINGGG

[@CreativeCamile]

absolutely insane how you didn't get the movie at all

[@nikkicarreon]

I love this movie so fucking much

[@tackycardia]

12:59 I was literally thinking this the whole movie, falling over onto tiles over and over cant feel good

[@caustic9921]

they actually do share a conscious it says theyre the same person a few times

[@giannasanchez862]

I believe the consciousness was shared but in a different way. Elizabeth would get Sues memories after Sue switched back into Elizabeths body, kind of like watching a movie. I think thats also why Elizabeth was saying to the mirror to “stop it” and sue saying “control yourself!” when she saw the mess. They are the same person with the same memories but they view each others memories as different entities entirely

[@Bsabx]

Ilysm Trin but this video was hard to watch with how much you doubted yourself to the point of believing the opposite of what was happening omg😭😂

[@brattyD]

with the no dialogue point i think it relates to how they are more concerned about their looks rather than personality/hobbies/relationships i think the message was how we often treat yourself as another person rather than being kind to yourself and how we want to be someone else/live their life rather than be content w/ who u r

[@ethancarreon3372]

TWO “GIRL WHO IS AFRAID OF EVERYTHING” IN ONE MONTH!?! OH WE ARE SO HERE

[@izzypedal6371]

new trin vid w my iced coffee and bagel oh everyone cheered

[@LateCambrian]

Yessssssssssss Saw this 3 times in the theatre, and started a horror movie podcast because it was so incredible…

[@mewmedic]

They do share the same conciousness. Its just that Sue is high and Elizabeth is sober.

[@mrmassacre3366]

It's marketing. It's a scam. Once rhe product is sold, that's all that matters.

[@trevormichael4906]

I don’t think they ever actually say it’s LA. And the snow at the beginning just solidifies my suspicions it’s just a whole different world. Like in this parallel universe it snows in “LA” and everyone is so obsessed with celebrity they didn’t even have to put a network name or anything really. But I think she WAS the same person. Just her psyche couldn’t handle it and she got a split personality of sorts.

[@CallMeMrsNoName]

Only thing that explains the little girl in the audience at the end when all of the dancers were topless?

[@asdrashuet-doyle961]

GIRL the way you shortcircuited at the end LMAO but like same