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The Gradient Operator in Vector Calculus: Directions of Fastest Change & the Directional Derivative

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Steve Brunton

Steve Brunton

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@Bruh-vp6qf
@Bruh-vp6qf Жыл бұрын
Best series I found for catching up on uni maths I forgot. Goes into enough detail whilst being short enough to fit in at work
@pablocb3529
@pablocb3529 2 жыл бұрын
Another nice graphic application of Grad is that it provides the normal direction of the surface T(x,y)=constant. This idea can be very useful for the geometrical understanding of our math problems. For any surface I can write as f(x,y)=constant, I can obtain the normal of this surface at any surface point just obtaining the Grad vector (whatever the complexity of this surface is). This directly applies to plasticity theory with respect to the yield surface and the normality rule.
@death_parade
@death_parade Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this comment.
@xenofurmi
@xenofurmi 3 ай бұрын
This is what is good about the internet for education. A good succinct lecture really gets the information across. If you want to learn we are in a golden age. I am very excited for it all.
@TheGamshid
@TheGamshid 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, You are the Best, truly intuitive. Much appreciation!
@matrub2097
@matrub2097 2 жыл бұрын
Correct me if i'm wrong, but i think the radius vector is pointed from the center of the Earth to the mass. This way the minus sign in the equation of force make sense.
@Drdragonesk22
@Drdragonesk22 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely correct. The minus sign gains its significance when you define a inertial system (physics term) with unit-vectors with origin at the center of the earth. One equivalent statement comes from linear algebra and the algebra of vectors. The physical “inertial system” is the mathematical equivalence to a set of basis vectors that roughly speaking spans a vector space, with a origin that is constant. So if we would say that the earth rotates around the moon, i.e. we define an inertial system at the center of the moon, then the force would change sign depending on how we choose the basis vectors, or respectively in what way we define the inertial system. (This is crucial in my opinion to understand Steve’s video about Coordinates and Autoencoders (…)) I recommend Princetons book Jeremy Kasdin and Dereks “Engineering Dynamics - A comprehensive Introduction” for a more low level, yet richer, vector formalism used in dynamics. But a high level introduction as this series is worth a lot. Then perhaps you will see that the probability for needing to ask for correction about a fact about vectors and physics might decrease!
@vikraal6974
@vikraal6974 Жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely. Negative sign indicates F is opposite to the unit vector of r.
@m.carmencasascastillo3901
@m.carmencasascastillo3901 5 ай бұрын
You're right!
@shubhamkamble
@shubhamkamble 2 жыл бұрын
Always wonderful to learn from you, i tried the example of gravitational potential, quite a neat example. Thanks for the video :)
@brucewayne6257
@brucewayne6257 Жыл бұрын
Hey man!Are u indian?Just wondering if this helped you in your university maths?
@suttikoonkoonkor5719
@suttikoonkoonkor5719 2 жыл бұрын
At 12:05, shouldn't vector r point outwards from the centre of the Earth? So the gravitational force has the direction towards the centre given the minus sign in the equation.
@mariovrpereira
@mariovrpereira 2 жыл бұрын
so glad to be seeing your lecture. thank you
@mar-a-lagofbibug8833
@mar-a-lagofbibug8833 2 жыл бұрын
Its the small details added that fill in the missing knowledge gaps for beginners. Why are the vector symbol over the grad removed? I needed to know that!!! Thanks teacher.
@jackwhitestripe7342
@jackwhitestripe7342 2 жыл бұрын
Gradient alone is not a vector, it is a function. When we apply specific values to a gradient function we obtain the gradient vector in a specific point in a coordinate system. The result represents a vector, then we use vector symbol over that.
@manoj_610
@manoj_610 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, Sir I am eagerly waiting for the coming lectures.
@SUMON041
@SUMON041 9 ай бұрын
Think you sir,,,,,,love from Bangladesh 🇧🇩🇧🇩
@elizabethlin3813
@elizabethlin3813 2 жыл бұрын
Coming to learn new knowledge!
@PingSharp
@PingSharp 6 ай бұрын
I have an exam on this on monday. ≈50% of students fail the course, where I study. Thank you for the great explanations
@KamrulHasan-dp8jk
@KamrulHasan-dp8jk 2 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on double curl of a vector field on a cartesian point.
@sarasabag
@sarasabag 2 жыл бұрын
Really great lecture. Thank you very much!
@twist777hz
@twist777hz 2 жыл бұрын
Dear Professor Brunton, I heard mathematicians treat the output of the gradient operator as a *row* vector (for reasons supposedly to do with differential geometry), while engineers and statisticians typically treat it as a *column* vector. I'm curious if there is a preference for either convention in the optimization / machine learning literature, as well as your own preference.
@wp4297
@wp4297 2 жыл бұрын
Row vectors and column vectors DO NOT exist. A vector is a vector, an abstract object, independent on the reference frame or the coordinates you use. Then, you can sort the coordinates (reminding which base vectors are associated with) as you wish: if you're free to choose your convention, choose the one you're more comfortable with, if you're using some libraries check out the documentation to find the convention they're using
@andrewferguson6901
@andrewferguson6901 2 жыл бұрын
@@wp4297 i like to project my vectors onto a cylinder so i don't have to look at all of the columns at the same time
@wp4297
@wp4297 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewferguson6901 I have not enough imagination for cylinders in high-dimensional spaces :)
@SirZinloos
@SirZinloos Жыл бұрын
Great explanation!
@rm_123sm
@rm_123sm Жыл бұрын
Great explanations for easy intuitive understanding of PDEs. I however was wondering whether we can add time in these equations, and how?
@zishangwu1916
@zishangwu1916 Жыл бұрын
You can randomly take a vector, with known unit length and started from a known initial point, on a surface and calculate its maximum increasing/decreasing speed using the time as unit length increment in both x and y direction. You will use it when you are calculating the directional derivative but eventually you will not see "t" cuz what you get will be a number determined by the magnitude of the delta, unit vector, and the angle between these two vectors.
@yousefmostafa4645
@yousefmostafa4645 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir its a great explaining
@filu005
@filu005 2 жыл бұрын
I have a question about calculating a gradient of gravitational potetnital: V = -(GmM)/r I can decompose r into a form where I keep each axis separate using pythagorean theorem: r = (x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^(1/2) now V equals: V = -(GmM)*(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^(-1/2) Now I can calculate a derivative in each direction (x, y, z): dV/dx = -(GmM)*(-1/2)*(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^(-3/2)*2x = x(GmM)*(x^2 + y^2 + z^2)^(-3/2) = x(GmM)/(r^3) y and z can be calculated correspondingly. Now, what's the next step? How do I go from this vector: ∇V=[dV/dx, dV/dy, dV/dz] to: F = -r(mMG)/(r^3)
@philipbarthelma1903
@philipbarthelma1903 2 жыл бұрын
Well you basically already did it. You calculate dV/dx , dV/dy, dV/dz which will give you: x(GmM)/(r^3) y(GmM)/(r^3) z(GmM)/(r^3) respectively. you then substitude this into your vector ∇V=[dV/dx, dV/dy, dV/dz]. You will get (and here i factored out the (GmM)/(r^3) from each component): (GmM)/(r^3) * [x , y , z]. But [x , y , z] is just your position Vector. In other Terms: its r. So you get your desired Equation: ∇V = (mMG)/(r^3) * r (where the last r in the equation is a vector). Since F = - ∇V we have to add a minus sign and then we are done: F = -(mMG)/(r^3) * r as shown in the video.
@filu005
@filu005 2 жыл бұрын
@@philipbarthelma1903 Ahh I see! I got stuck on calculating partial derivatives (dV/dx,...) 🙄 the rest is clear. Thanks for the explanations!
@yahiabousseloub9217
@yahiabousseloub9217 2 жыл бұрын
Sir, please can u explain augmented Lagrangian (penalty function)
@Kashif_Javaid
@Kashif_Javaid 2 жыл бұрын
Keep it up. Awesome series
@anoshiravan6809
@anoshiravan6809 10 ай бұрын
thanks for your great explaination
@Eigensteve
@Eigensteve 10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@draganostojic6297
@draganostojic6297 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Steve. Enjoy your sabatical 💗
@alegian7934
@alegian7934 2 жыл бұрын
love this series
@Tyokok
@Tyokok 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Steve, do you have a video for "Field"? like what is field and what is scalar or vector field? Thank you very much!
@krelly90277
@krelly90277 2 жыл бұрын
Can I use the gradient to model the gradient of sand density on Arrakis?
@xxyz1000
@xxyz1000 2 жыл бұрын
New epsode at MathFlix! 😀
@curtpiazza1688
@curtpiazza1688 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Thanx! 😊
@giro808
@giro808 Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@studybuddy1015
@studybuddy1015 4 ай бұрын
thank you sir
@semihcanakca1762
@semihcanakca1762 2 жыл бұрын
many thanks!!
@edemkumah5248
@edemkumah5248 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@muralikrishnay2734
@muralikrishnay2734 Жыл бұрын
Is the concept of grad similar to maxima and minima?
@baki4457
@baki4457 4 ай бұрын
I didn’t understand how the gravitational force is equal to mMG/r^3 , Isn’t suppoed to be 1/r^2
@asnaa-.-
@asnaa-.- 2 ай бұрын
Me too
@victorlc.vabeiryusa7458
@victorlc.vabeiryusa7458 16 күн бұрын
Yeah it is but he writes it in a different way -GMmr(vector)/r^3 Since r(vector)= r r(hat) so r^3 cancel with r in the numerator and that will give you force=GMmr(hat)/r² r(hat) is present since force is a vector
@baki4457
@baki4457 16 күн бұрын
@@victorlc.vabeiryusa7458ohh I see, thank you so much ❤
@nemes1s_aoe
@nemes1s_aoe 5 ай бұрын
Great!
@hagopbulbulian6642
@hagopbulbulian6642 Жыл бұрын
May I ask where is the I,j,k in nebla (delta ) why you don't put them in the column vector like [d/dx i, d/dy j, d/dz k]
@Syndicalism
@Syndicalism Жыл бұрын
In matrix notation, as seen in this video, each row will always imply a different basis direction. It is when writing a vector in component form that i-hat, j-hat, and k-hat are written explicitly to make it clear to the reader/writer that a linear combination of the scaled Cartesian (rectangular) basis is used. To reiterate, in matrix notation, you should already know not to add the individual components of the vector together as they are on separate rows and thus imply a different 'direction'. In component form, the only reason you know not to add the individual components of the vector together is because the basis vectors (i-hat, j-hat, k-hat) are written explicitly.
@Syndicalism
@Syndicalism Жыл бұрын
Apologies if that's confusing. It felt weird to simply say that i-hat, j-hat, and k-hat are already implied in matrix form as each row represents its own basis vector, scaled by some factor.
@GustavoRocha1
@GustavoRocha1 7 ай бұрын
Is he writingevery thing mirrored???
@PingSharp
@PingSharp 6 ай бұрын
I would assume that he mirrors the video itself
@gyorgyo7597
@gyorgyo7597 2 жыл бұрын
Hi. So F is minus the directional derivative of V ? Excellent video.
@martinperu6207
@martinperu6207 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks.. Some books for it?
@michaelolatunde1585
@michaelolatunde1585 Жыл бұрын
Some ants actually do fly Steve 🙂 6:18
@dojjy5798
@dojjy5798 2 жыл бұрын
YES.
@douglasstrother6584
@douglasstrother6584 8 ай бұрын
UC Santa Cruz - Physics 1987
@nefcodes
@nefcodes 2 ай бұрын
F = -GMm/r2 (NOT r cube)
@user-vy6oc2cr5m
@user-vy6oc2cr5m Ай бұрын
He wrote the same thing. You are missing the directional unit vector r cap which is (r vector)/|r|. He just wrote r cap in terms of RHS and thus r² gets multiplied by another r making it r³ and instead of r cap we write r vector. Hope it's clear😊.
@imQuark
@imQuark 2 жыл бұрын
How are you so good at writting backwards?
@rajjolal23
@rajjolal23 3 ай бұрын
the video is mirrored.
@yadt
@yadt 2 жыл бұрын
(Some) ants certainly can fly, to my eternal horror.
@someonestolemyname
@someonestolemyname 2 жыл бұрын
Now when I need to write gravity I can turn it into del mass instead.
@godfreypigott
@godfreypigott 2 жыл бұрын
But *WHY* is the directional derivative given by that dot product?
@EdwardAlexanderSmall
@EdwardAlexanderSmall 2 жыл бұрын
The (1/||v||)*v normalises the v vector (call this value v'). We normalise it because we do not care about its magnitude, we only care about it's direction, and as such the magnitude of v'=1. Now we have v'.(grad(f)). What we are doing with this dot product operation is projecting v' onto the gradient vector grad(f). This basically tells us how much of vector v' is pointed in the same direction as grad(f). If the vectors are at right angles to each other (orthogonal) then the answer will be 0 because no amount of v' points in the same direction as grad(f). If the answer is 1 then they point in the same direction, if it is -1 they point in the opposite direction.
@draganostojic6297
@draganostojic6297 2 жыл бұрын
It's a projection of the gradient onto the unit vector so it's the dot product.
@godfreypigott
@godfreypigott 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardAlexanderSmall I actually know how it works. My point was that he should be explaining this instead of just giving the result.
@EdwardAlexanderSmall
@EdwardAlexanderSmall 2 жыл бұрын
@@godfreypigott Okay. A fair criticism, even if giving it in the form of rhetoric comes across as a little rude (expecially since it is directed at someone who is giving a well produced, advanced lecture course for completely free). He's definitely been through the idea of projection before in other videos and lecture material, and I'd argue that linear algebra (a topic he has covered in some detail) is a prerequisite for vector calculus. If a viewer doesn't have a good intuition for how the dot product works, this lecture course is probably one step too advanced for the viewer (as they've clearly skipped a fundamental foundation of the topic). If he went through everything in the absolute finest detail all the time, these videos would become lengthy and unwieldy, which would defeat the point. One of the reasons that these lectures are so good and so easy to absorb is that they don't overwhelm the viewer with superfluous information. (Editted to make Godfrey happy)
@godfreypigott
@godfreypigott 2 жыл бұрын
@@EdwardAlexanderSmall I just told you I understand this. So I don't know why you you want to belittle me with the second half of your second paragraph.
@erickgomez7775
@erickgomez7775 Жыл бұрын
If there are two sources of heat and the bee is unlucky, it could just stay at a non optimal point
@trevorgdn
@trevorgdn 2 күн бұрын
Some ants do fly.
@slickmorty9845
@slickmorty9845 2 жыл бұрын
♥♥♥♥♥♥
@bonsairobo
@bonsairobo 2 жыл бұрын
Small correction at 6:20. Some ants do fly.
@namedrop66
@namedrop66 2 жыл бұрын
Worst Earth ever.
@zrmsraggot
@zrmsraggot 9 ай бұрын
Some hints to write V = -mMG/r into cartesian coord (x,y,z) ? I have no clue where to start thx
@user-fo7qp9vi4f
@user-fo7qp9vi4f Ай бұрын
r = x^2 + y^2 +z^2
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