The Graves of Jefferson Davis & His Generals | History Traveler Episode 159

[@jeremymiller6264]

I am a history teacher and I have to constantly remind my students that they cannot judge anyone from the past through the lens of today but to try to understand why those people fought for what they believed. Keep sharing history my friend.

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

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[@AngloCelt88]

The winners write the history books. You telling me that you actually believe anything the federal government has to say about a war they started.

[@katzgar]

a traitor is a traitor through any lens.

[@ktt2062]

@@katzgar do you consider the signers of the Declaration of Independence to be traitors?

[@jbeusmc]

⁠@@ktt2062People like that don’t consider anything. They like to look through their moralistic, rose colored glasses and judge every one and every thing with no context

[@breatherboy6046]

No matter which side of the war you stand on, education is never a bad thing.

[@jollybuffalo]

Lack of education is why we are where we are in America today, it's a terrible thing to be a deceived people. When I go amongst my brethren that fell it causes great grief because I realize I live in a conquered country. I don't want to re fight that war either but what America is going through today descends from that war.

[@swearenginlawanda]

Agree

[@baird5776mullet]

Hear,hear and destroying it guarantees it's repeat.

[@baird5776mullet]

@MGTOW Paladin BOOM!

[@pauldekker9847]

Wait... There's people today on the Confederate side?

[@JB-vt5sz]

Those who don’t learn from history are doomed to repeat it

[@garykorzelius5930]

Gee we only heard that one a million times before. Original.

[@sebastiandc1392]

history exists to show the mass learns nothing from it, even some times, that history is doctored by the winners.

[@richardmanginelli2624]

Which I fear is exactly what the current crop of Democrats are pushing for, and yes History will repeat itself just as did in 1862

[@misterinadequate3518]

Those who do learn from History are doomed to watch others repeat it.

[@jimmyanderson2988]

Just remember one thing this country didn’t invent anything at that time and it was all brought over here from other countries. Just like all of our forefathers on a ship. That’s where it all started!!!!

[@martywilson-nolen8023]

History must be preserved. It must also include ALL the facts. There are too many folks trying to erase our history because they disagree with it. Understanding the people of the time period, and what challenges they faced should be a lesson for us today. Even though we have all this technology, we face many similar challenges. This video is a good one. Thank you.

[@savanahmclary4465]

IF the people were taught the FACTS about History. They would be no DIVISION in Americans opinion. Seriously what did Abraham Lincoln and his HANDFUL North Eastern States Representatives WIN??? What did they win? All they did for Southern Slaves were to make them Homeless, Starving and Unemployed. With all the Southern Weath and loot that William Sherman and Sam Grant stole out of the Southern States/ common Wealths: Just how much of that Wealth go to improve the quality of life for ALL THOSE supposed SLAVES, that they Freed? Or did they just make the Slaves Homeless, Starving and Unemployed? With all the Wealth that Will that William Sherman and Grant looted off the Southern plantations; Just how much of that Stolen Southern Wealth go to improve the Quality of life, for all those supposed SLAVES that they FREED? And how much of that stolen Southern Wealth went into Abe Lincolns' new USA Treasury to fund the introduction of the First USA CURRENCY, he placed into circulation? Well how much? Or did All that stolen Wealth just Disappear from HISTORY?? WHERE IS IT? That Wealth disappeared from history!! That's why Abraham Lincoln was assassinated.....

[@rogerriggs6055]

HISTORY IS HISTORY, when you hide from it, you are more apt to repeat the same mistakes.

[@don-e4838]

Reasonable people can agree, unfortunately we are surrounded by unreasonable people not willing to take the time to research our history, thank you for your research and hard work that goes into your videos.

[@spokanetomcat1]

They would rather tear down history and repeat it later.

[@zeee7010]

@@spokanetomcat1 The only ones who wanted to see the confederate statues are the ones who supported everything the confederate army stood for. Those are the people who want to repeat that history.

[@JB-hl1qx]

@@zeee7010 not necessarily. Some of us are just history buffs ..

[@chrisjohnson6765]

@@zeee7010 and then there are those who failed logic….

[@spokanetomcat1]

@@zeee7010 When these statues were erected, and yes you are right, living in the past that didn't exist anymore, was their mindset back then. You can see it in their epitaphs. However, if we don't learn from their mistakes we are doomed to repeat and it's going on now by the same party who erected them. Sadly, they were educated to destroy this history instead of learning from a bad time in this country that almost destroyed it because of "feelings being hurt".

[@pigybak]

No disclaimer necessary. If you have to explain, they already don’t understand. Good job!

[@Headstoneman]

I very much agree with this!

[@hooper4581]

Exactly! Spot on

[@allysonh6410]

So much yes

[@gregtotten2617]

Couldn't of said it better myself

[@Killsnapz]

the sediment on Jefferson Davis's headstone are the feelings of his family towards him. You don't have to agree with their opinion of their father but you should make allowances for his family to express their opinions of their loved one at the site of his final resting place. We now have the foresight of 150 plus years showing us he was wrong. I doubt things were so clear in 1861 as they are to us today. In my opinion these 150 years later he committed treason by taking up arms against the United States of America but taking down statues, memorials and headstones is just dumb. History is history, some bad, some good but all of it history that should never be eradicated.

[@mikemcqueary9381]

It’s a shame that you have to explain everything before you can even do you video. People really need to wake up stop all the drama and hatefulness over anything they can find. Great video man

[@lightingbolt8148]

So true

[@danwoodliefphotography871]

I agree it is a shame, but if you read the comments, you will see why the disclaimer is made. I am a student of the Civil War,and on virtually every Civil War post anywhere you will find people who make it political, and most of those are Confederate apologists.

[@deadlyoneable]

@@danwoodliefphotography871 I see the comments my dude. Most negative things I see are from this new woke cancer that has gripped the nation.

[@danwoodliefphotography871]

@@deadlyoneable I would argue there are many certainly taking it too far, but to some degree history of the Civil War needed a correction as well. Those who fly Confederate flags and glorify "the Cause" actually brought some of this on themselves. For every action, there is a reaction. It is kind of odd when you realize how much Lee, who lost, was memorialized vs Grant, who is without doubt one of our greatest heroes. Now, yes, Lincoln has been honored tremendously. And I think you need to read comments more objectively if that is all you see. I am incredibly objective when it comes to history, while realizing, as one of my former professors once said, no one can be completely objective. I have actually found that objectivity gets you attacked by both "sides." Many people are very intolerant of objectivity.

[@esfwr17]

​@@danwoodliefphotography871I mean, Grant is on our currency, that should carry a bit of memorial weight lol.

[@sherrieshatzen3801]

Thank you. I was born & raised in the South where the Civil War was mostly called the War Between the States. You did a beautiful job of touring the cemetery & giving the historical information pertinent to the Confederates buried there. As a child I participated in re-enactments of battles & I embraced the illusions of the glorious southern cause. As an adult I know that I could never have embraced or supported that cause. Never-the-less I have empathy for those who fought & often died in that war. They felt they were defending their homes. Most Confederate soldiers were far too poor to own slaves. Many struggled to be able to own enough land to farm. They never understood that they were fighting to protect wealthy, privileged plantation owners way of life. Not completely different from the problems we confront today where wealthy politicians enroll those who work hard to have a home & put food on the table into supporting them & fighting with those who try to tell the truth.

[@73beetle19]

I agree. There’s no way all those dirt poor southern farmers were fighting for a rich man’s slave.

[@avenaoat]

I think this is a good opinion from a Southern. I am European and I am sympathy for the Union in the Civil War, but that war was very devastating for the South. 600-700 000 people died in it and many people died in illnesses not in battles! BTW the Cotton King lost the dominance in the cotton world market, during the war. India, Turkish Empire, Egypt and Brasil with smaller countries together became cotton producers. The Cold Mountain movie was excellent to show the Southern at the end of the Civil War. BTW I am very interesting the Southern Unionists and their area as East Tennessee for example.

[@sherrieshatzen3801]

@@avenaoat I am impressed with your knowledge of that era of American History & the Civil War. Most Americans (unless they grew up & went to school in the South) don't know that much. I have spent a lot of time in France & have been quite envious of the french educaton system for many reasons. As to the Civil War there were many people who were secretly or openly opposed to this war. Many whose families had been a part of the creation of the United States. Many who were opposed to slavery. It is a myth that the entire Southern Confederacy of states was in favor of the war. Plantation owners & those who made a lo of monye doing business with them wanted secession--wanted the continuation of slavery.There were many romantics who thought war-any war-was a glorious adventure.There were poor, uneducated whites whose only sense of self worth came from believing they were a few rungs up the ladder because they were white. they were taught this & they were ivested in believing it, evidence to the contrary. Not only is racism alive & well among some Americans even today, but "Maga" republicans are being played for idiots by those who have the same kind of goals as wealthy southerners of that era--the republican politicians who stand to gain from the intellectual enslavement of their base.

[@avenaoat]

@@sherrieshatzen3801 I have recently read Harriet Becher Stowe's novel "Uncle Tom's Cabin", because I am interesting of the preCivilWar and the Civil War era of the USA. For example I read Du Bois's biography about John Brown and Carl Sandburg's biography about Abraham Lincoln. For me it was the most surpising, that Harriet wrote so many positive Southern characters in her novel. I thought she wrote everything negative about the Southerners before reading her novel. (Prejudice?) I give you a short essay about Mrs Stowe's novel: I am interested in the Civil War and the Pre Civil War era. I read the novel with such eyes, so three thoughts: 1. For me the most surprised thing was the author showed some positive characters from the Southern Society. I think she knew Henry Clay from Kentucky (BTW Lincoln’s political examplar) who was slave holder with about 52 slaves, but he fought in the border states for a step by step abolution! It may be the son of Eliza’s earlier master (Kentuckians) frees his slaves according to Hanry Clay’s idea in the end of the book. I think Harriet did not think her book would bring a War with 600-700 000 dead people (as Lincoln said her). I think the author thought a step by step abolution as solution, however (the worst USA law) the Stephen Douglas Kansas Nebraska law and the bleeding Kansas set put the country on a war footing. 2. The positive humanist characters in the Southern Sociaty whom the author wrote in the novel were example, that to be humanist is not solution in the slavery. As Eliza’s master he and his family could be humanist slave holders but some money problem compeled them to sell their slaves into a not humanist circumtances and Tom’s fate will be this in Lousiana. The slavery indepedently somebody is humanist or not humanist it can lead to inhumanity! 3. The book had enormouse effect to hold United Kingdom and France neutral during the Civil War. It may be some politician wanted to help the South for the cotton, but the simple people did not want to help slave holder civilization…..funny but Queen Victoria was pro unionist perhaps she read Harriet’s book????

[@savanahmclary4465]

Research Common Wealths/States Plat maps and property tax archived records. Slavery was outlawed in the Northern States Legislatures starting around 1804 - 1807 because they found SLAVERY to be NOT PROFITABLE. Shipping Companies even stopped transporting slaves to this area, because they too had found it NOT PROFITABLE. (Maritime Repositories in Maryland and in port cities down the Atlantic Ocean sea board) As early as 1764 before (1776) The American Aristocrats and Planters had decided to end owning Slaves. That they went to having multiple children; Inwhich, in this generation they Aristocrats and Planters had as many as 23 to 25 children; Inwhich, the Aristocrats and Planters began having their Properties and Plantations resurveyed into 40 to 160 acre small farms. With each of their Children inheriting their small farms and FARMING themselves, without SLAVES! And many of their descendants are still farming their portion of small farms TODAY! With Farm implements with GPS. Lol. Research Civil War statistics? 92% of the Southerners who fought for the South lived on small farms and did NOT own slaves! They fought for "States RIGHTS" in their government, to Remain a SOVERIGN, "Common Wealth" (And INDEPENDENT) of Big Government take over of the Common Wealths, "Wealth," Money! By consolidating the Wealth into a First, One USA Treasury. And wanted to issue into circulation the First "One" USA CURRENCY. Each Common Wealths SOVEREIGN North American Extended Families Wealths Financially backed their Common Wealths INDEPENDENTLY. Because the Common Wealths SOVEREIGN North American Families Controlled the Individual Common Wealths COMMERCE/ Economy.

[@jeremymoorer1611]

Even though I disagree on the main reason the War was fought, I see no bias in your videos. I thoroughly enjoy their content.. Sweet Home Alabama 🇺🇸

[@martysheets6882]

Not once since I have been watching your history videos have I ever thought you were one side or the other, very good reporting today's media could take a lesson from you. Keep up the great work Brother.

[@michaelswinehart2788]

Marty Sheetz, our gov't. could also learn from him.

[@toddran1969]

This!!!!

[@willowravenwright5518]

“The Confederate Arlington…” Glad to see this. If we do not remember history, we are absolutely doomed to repeat it. Richmond is practically where I live now, and I have been to Hollywood Cemetery more than a few times. So thanks for doing this video.

[@deathfromabove2250]

Unfortunately we already are repeating history.

[@patricklinebaugh7792]

Wait a minute... Arlington is confederate. Montgomery Meigs, chief quartermaster of the Union Army, so distraught over his son's death in the demanded that the Custis Lee estate become a cemetery to dishonor General Lee. Now it is the highest place of honor in our. Funny how history always has the last word.

[@willowravenwright5518]

@@patricklinebaugh7792 You are correct.

[@theotherconfederrasputin2729]

@@patricklinebaugh7792 YES, AND R.E. LEE'S DESENDANTS FILED SUIT AGAINST THE U.S. GOVERNMENT FOR THE ILLEGAL TAKING OF THIS PROPERTY, AND WON THE SUIT! BUT COMING FROM SUCH A MORAL FAMILY, AND ALL CONSIDERED, THE LEE'S DECIDED TO LEAVE IT AS IT WAS, WITH RESPECT TO ALL THE FALLEN, AND TODAY IT REMAINS GEN. ROBERT E. LEE'S BOYHOOD HOME.

[@johns.5848]

I like your name The Confederate Arlington. The other Arlington is Robert E Lee's Arlington, since Arlington was Robert E. Lee's farm that the north confiscated.

[@Headstoneman]

So true!! I tell people very often that I am not proud of the things my ancestors fought for…. But I am proud of them as individuals for having the courage to fight for what they believed in. Right wrong or indifferent it took lots of courage to march yourself to certain death for what you believe in

[@karencarter8292]

How do you know if what you have been taught is truthfully what your ancestors fought for ?

[@Headstoneman]

@@karencarter8292 I don’t…. But there was a whole bunch of things that caused the civil war…. One of them was the subject of slavery. That was only one thing out of several others. I’m not proud of the fact that my ancestors owned slaves, I’m not proud of the fact that they fought for the right to continue to own slaves… and I’m certainly not proud that my 4th great grandfather was involved in the Colfax riot… but it is part of history and part of who I am today. Those folks molded those who molded me… so they are a part of me.

[@karencarter8292]

@@Headstoneman I am glad that you agree that there were issues that resulted in the civil war. The prominent issue was the Morrill Tariff and the purpose of this huge tariff, and what it would have done to the South and other ensuing states. The interests of powerful northern states had for many decades used their influence to keep the southern states from ever developing industrially to any real extent. These hypocritical and controlling northern factions desired to keep the southern states as a mere satellite for northern interests; a mercantile system, much like what the Brits had with the original colonies. The slavery issue was only introduced later by the hypocritical North in order to try to justify the terrible, wanton destruction, the tremendous loss of civilian lives also, as well as the southern soldiers, including private property, caused by more than four years of invasions, wiping out cities and towns, sieges, and brutal occupation by northern armies. As to the slavery issue, prior to the war, according to academic researchers into archival records, the percentage of slaves in the South was about 6% of the population. In the North, the percentage of slaves was about 3% of the population, and there were a considerable number of black freedmen who owned property including slaves. Now, why would a huge majority of the soldiers on either side, most of whom were not slave owners, fight each other over the issue of slavery? Yet, the North, their corrupt political machine, and their media allies had to press the slavery issue for many years for propaganda purposes. The surviving southern veterans not only had a daunting struggle to rebuild some sort of life, but they also had to confront the lies and misconceptions put forth by a hypocritical, lying victor and their occupying armies. Please think about that.

[@swirvinbirds1971]

I don't think either side can really say their ancestors were wonderful people. If we met them we probably wouldn't like many of them and they probably wouldn't like us too much either. At the same time most people who take issue with Confederate monuments don't have issues with monuments to the dead either. Glorification of the dead whom 100,000 of thousands from both side had no choice but to fight wether they wanted to or not is entirely different than monuments meant to glorify the Confederacy itself. We can't simply say they wanted to separate to be free to rule themselves without discussing why they wanted to do such. To do otherwise is a travesty to actual teaching of history.

[@alanaadams7440]

Who amoung is can say that today

[@georgealvarez2923]

I want to personally thank you for your presentations and the way you speak about the fallen. I have always loved history and your channel serves to create conversations on my students. Please continue doing what you’re doing to provide a service to everyone. History is so important. Thank you for what you do

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

Thanks! 👍🏻

[@thedoxinator3934]

JD….I saw a Gettysburg General , James L. Kemper , Pickett’s charge , where he was wounded & later 37th Gov of Va , my sis lives in Orange,Va & I saw a sign for his grave, while exploring we found it on private property , the owner saw us and granted us permission to not only pay our respects but let us tour his house …what a day, I’ll never forget ,

[@morewithles]

Thanks to you I no longer waste my time watching mindless stuff on KZbin. I was not interested in learning any of this IF it was ever taught in the public schools I attended in Indiana. But you Sir have me hooked. I really appreciate your work. Thank You! 🙏👊

[@epfan4life1]

It's sad that you have to do these disclaimers. I'm fearful of us as a nation going backwards and repeating the civil war due to forgetting the thought process that led to it. I love that you covered this cemetery. Very well done.

[@denisefarmer366]

If we were to "go backwards" as you said, it would be a horrifying mistake.

[@georgehannah4357]

Being British, I don't have a dog in this fight, so to speak. But just as I love German WWII history, as much as British, I am very much interested in both sides of the US civil war and I think its important to know both sides, lest the same mistakes /issues arise again. Love your vlogs!

[@paulpowell4871]

you have a dog in this fight for certain as we all do. The USA was a British colony (add in Dutch, Spanish French and Portugeuse too) . Slavery was imported Not By the USA but by them all. The British colonists based on grants from the Nobles and Companies set up the basic divisions of the American colonies. The north, harsh and rocky, was sold in small lots to families that formed close knit communities. the south more fertile in hundred acre lots were sold off to companies or the wealthy for large crops like Tobacco and Cotton. the close knit communities of the north grew into the hotbeds of learning and rebellion. It certainly was a child of the British that set forth the civil war in the USA, Dog in I say

[@rugfixr]

Yet the same mistakes are happening again today, as we live again under the heavy hand of federal government, with a complicit media and history revisionists bastardizing the facts of our past; removing our monuments, and indoctrinating through academia, political correctness, virtue signaling and grotesque twists of fact

[@rugfixr]

@@paulpowell4871 you do know that it is the British who ended slavery throughout the world as much as it could be, other than in Africa where it is still waged today. They refused to trade and imprisoned people and went to war to stop slavery. That was the English. Slavery was also ending in America, with no need for a war to end slavery, and that's why we did not have a war to end slavery. Lincoln is famously quoted as saying he would not have freed one slave had it meant the retention of the union. This war was fought for the wealth of the South where all the money grew, because cotton and tobacco couldn't be grown up north were slavery also existed in every state but two. The heavy federal government hand taxed to death the southern landowners and Farmers moving their goods through the north to ports though, so the South had enough of that taxation without representation, just as our forefathers in the Revolutionary War had, and fought against that heavy hand in the war for southern Independence

[@sknmrowley]

Please do not comingle these unconnected events/causes

[@russelllane7295]

being British you did have a dog in the fight. look how many soldiers on both sides were from English and Scotts Irish decent. Patrick Cleburne for example. served in the British army before coming to America.

[@karengreen2437]

Brig Gen Edwin Starke was killed at Antietam on Sept 17. his son that is buried next to him actually died 3 months earlier at the Battle of Seven Pines. Sad story for that family for sure! Thank you for your intro. People do have definite opinions on all sides of this war. As a southerner I appreciate you going to these graves and your take on things. Yes I have family that served in that war, some injured, some died, some survived and came home. None of which fought for the reasons that people state-they fought to be able to take care of their families. I’m proud of my family and my ancestors because they believe in standing by their families, taking care of each other and standing up for what they believe in, no matter the circumstances or outcomes.

[@savanahmclary4465]

Yes! You be Proud as an American! A people who will contest their GOVERNMENT for whats' RIGHT! View the video of the 50th Anniversary celebration at Gettysburg: Where the Original Soldiers, who had fought at Gettysburg stand face to face, once more at the Stonewall. And hear these mens' PROCLAMATION to one another on how wrong this War was. They shake hands across the Stonewall, for they are American "Brothers."

[@tonystracener9078]

As a Southerner I'm glad the Union was preserved. That being said there is no denying the bravery, passion and dedication of the soldiers on both sides of the conflict.

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

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[@mikesmith-qw5qh]

I LOVE THE SOUTH. SOUTHERN PEOPLE HAVE CLASS. I WAS BORN IN NEW JERSEY. I TRIED TO ENTER THE ARMY BUT I HAVE HEALTH PROBLEMS. I LOVE MY COUNTRY. BTW I LIVE IN UPSTATE NY. GOOD POSTING MY FELLOW AMERICAN

[@waynelayton8568]

You should head North 😅

[@RayTrammell-z2e]

I totally disagree with you!! If you like where this country is going fine. I do NOT!!

[@janicepounds9934]

Thank you for being so introspective.We have our views of today but cannot really understand how life was in 1861. Many brave souls lost their lives for the various reasons they fought. May God bless them all!

[@sherryschnee5329]

Although a Northern Yankee by birth and choice, I can still appreciate the dedication and determination of the Southern Rebels. Both sides fought for 'a' cause.

[@bullhead900]

@Brandon Dague At the beginning of the video, you were asked not to do this.

[@noyoutubename9918]

@@bullhead900 This person didn’t make a statement of support for either side

[@thomasfoss9963]

Damn Yankee!!!!! Good video--

[@MGTOWPaladin]

What side was the Union fighting for? Most importantly, since they represented constitutional authority, which part of the Constitution were they fighting for and where is that authority listed in the Constitution?

[@albertbryan7132]

The argument is what that cause was. I believe that enough evidence exists to prove it wasn't over slavery if one is willing to be objective. The slavery narrative is one that was used to achieve a moral upper hand to paraphrase US President Woodrow Wilson.

[@ianashman9219]

As an English man, trying to grasp this brutal war. May I thank you for teaching me so much through your videos. Your Gettysburg blogs were outstanding, went there some years ago, would love to return one day, having learnt so much more, thanks to your good self. Will you following this up with visits to other graves ie. Grant. Lee. Jackson. Long street to name a few. God bless you for your work.

[@Danno1983]

@Ian Ashman we had our own Civil War .... War Of The Roses

[@ianashman9219]

@@Danno1983 As a Yorkshire man I'm well aware of the war, but we don't want to talk about that lol. The US one has grasp my attention more than our own. Even though I was born in between where king Richard was born & where he died. At least the cricket team have done better over the years.

[@Danno1983]

@@ianashman9219 i wouldn't know bout that am down South

[@queenbeedat8726]

History should not be erased. It is history for a reason and it should be noted not ignored.

[@TheJdub1000]

Great job man! Today's woke crowd make it difficult to even talk about these issues. I along with you appreciate our country's history, the right or the wrong of it. Felt to me like you achieved a perfect balance here. If anyone's offended they're just unreachable. Super job, keep up the great work!

[@stevenlassiter1532]

Thanks for Walking through that Huge Cemetery and showing those Graves. I will Never be able to get that way and Appreciate Your doing that. Another Great Video.

[@randysheetz690]

I must say I understand your feelings as I was born and raised near Gettysburg and visited the battlefield at least once a year for the first 2 years of my life and I now live south of Atlanta. I feel that no monument to the confederates should be defaced or torn down no matter where it is located as congress long ago settled this matter by declaring that the confederate soldiers were considered American soldiers thus they and there widows could apply for pensions and military bases were named for them to help heal the countries wounds. Yes, I can trace my lineage to soldiers from both sides of the war and even further back in American military history.

[@1crzflyer]

they were all traitors and our nations enemy... no different than Osama Bin laden..

[@kenduffy5397]

Well said Randy, well said! As a historian; the majority of people have no idea that Congress already settled these issues. Any logical American understands why Lincoln (who I’m not a fan of) did not persecute and or execute General Lee, General Longstreet etc. Though we know it is a fact that President Lincoln illegally suspended habeas corpus. One of America's greatest fundamentals in our Constitution! I don’t necessarily agree that he shouldn’t have suspended habeas corpus. I disagree in which the way he did it. He did without the vote of approval by Congress! When I teach, I never talk about hypotheticals, but on this platform I do. I believe (I could be wrong) the reason Lincoln didn’t let the members of Congress vote on the suspension of habeas corpus is he knew it would never get approved. Hence why he did not get permission from Congress? Lincoln’s suspension of habeas corpus was completely done illegally and had zero merits to stand on. Because Congress never had the opportunity to vote in favour of it (making it a legitimate legal action) or voting it down & making it illegal & impossible for Lincoln to arrest (especially in Kentucky) citizens for simply being a Democrat. Now, let’s not kid ourselves! There were A LOT of Democrats that support succession & the CSA. With that being said; a lot of innocent people were imprisoned just because they were a Democrat! Lincoln’s handling of the War was horrible. Right up to the point until he appointed General Grant as Commander & Chief of all the Armies in the Eastern theatre. Lincoln’s entire Presidency was totally depended on General Grant's success! Hence, why General Grant was a great General! (I would argue that General Longstreet was on the same level as Grant but that's a different conversation altogether) As much as I believe Lincoln totally missed handling the War. He did the complete opposite of handling the surrender at Appomattox! Not only did Lincoln win the War. He more importantly, won the peace!! Lincoln handled his victory over the CSA perfectly! Had Lincoln & General Grant (General Grant had some very good close friends that fought for the Confederacy) Had they hung Jefferson Davis, Lee, Longstreet etc. It would have only made them into Southern Martyrs and reconstruction would have been near impossible with all the Gorilla warfare! Think about all the Outlaw gangs that were a byproduct of the Civil War. Had the Union executed the Confederate leaders? It would have made “Bleeding Kansas” look like child’s play! So Lincoln was extremely smart by not persecuting the CSA leaders (lol, he would have been persecuting 1/2 of the American population) it would have just added many more years of violence! Not prosecuting the leaders of the CSA made wounds of the War heal much faster & that is something to be admired!

[@Caeser194]

@Ken Duffy that's for that,sometimes the comments are just as educational as the video.

[@Qigate]

One of the things that always seems to come home to me when I hear about the C.S.A. and those that fought for it, is that we often forget that, regardless of politics, they were Americans !!

[@tinkerbell9757]

Well stated ty

[@darcymoon2109]

Well, for awhile a few didn’t want to be Americans they wanted to be confederates or whatever they call themselves.

[@dixieforever]

@@darcymoon2109 It was literally called, "The Confederate States of America"

[@davidstrickland1412]

@@darcymoon2109 “United” States of the Americans. Thinks about it. They were citizens of states that were voluntarily unified. They were Americans just as much as someone from Rhode Island, Maine or New York were Americans.

[@denisefarmer366]

620,000 American soldiers died in the civil war.

[@margaretgarls153]

Excellent ground rules. I lost 3 great uncles in the Civil War and great great uncle. They fought for the South, but I appreciate their sacrifice.

[@WatchyertopknowAhhhGrizz1964]

Finally!!! Someone that simply wants to re-visit and research history without rewriting it or levying indoctrination...there's hope yet! Great job on this video!!

[@tonydeleo3642]

Even thought we may not agree with what a person stands for, we must respect them for stepping up and supporting what they believe in, regardless of the cost to themselves.

[@1psychofan]

I wholeheartedly agree with you about NOT removing monuments ~ we should be inspired by good/brave men…and reminded by others of how NOT to be. I aim to live a life that inspires others-lessons from the past help me do just that!

[@kimberlyyoudell4582]

So refreshing to find I am not the only one who can see and feel both sides of the story.

[@lila6117]

Just wanted to mention that your channel is viewed by other countries. As a Canadian, I really respect what you doing (gosh your vlog are awesome) regarding education and history and it is not for us to judge, thank you so much!

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

Thanks! Appreciate that. Hope to get up to your part of the world at some point.

[@tylermatthews1094]

I know I’m extremely late to comment but I just recently found your channel. I’m extremely happy that you decided to do videos such as this one. I agree with everything you stated in the video 100%. I think people today tend to forget that these men were still Americans and had loved ones just like ourselves, and many of them served in other wars. Just because you don’t agree with the beliefs they had at the time, doesn’t mean they should not be respected and remembered as they all played a key role in our nation’s young history.

[@cridgeway666]

Another interesting, informative & beautifully filmed video. I personally find it sickening that people want to destroy & desecrate the memorials to people who either fought for their beliefs or their homes, just because their ideals & beliefs aren't the same as the ideals & beliefs of the modern times. Back when the monuments & memorials were designed, created & raised the people who the memorials were dedicated to were considered heroes to some & loved ones to others.

[@napoleonlempereur3021]

👍👍👍❤🇨🇵

[@darcymoon2109]

They were traitors to my country.

[@arthurbrumagem3844]

@@darcymoon2109 if the south had won would those from the north been considered traitors ?

[@Orly90]

@@darcymoon2109 the nation was very much different back then.....

[@cynthiathomas6690]

@@darcymoon2109 then you need research your family history before you talk about someone else

[@richardduncan7924]

Very well done. One thing that strikes me for both sides of that war is the fact that many of the soldiers (Officers & Enlisted) were deeply religious and believed that God was on their side. I also believe that nearly all of these men fought with bravery and gallantry. What a spectacle it must have been.

[@denisefarmer366]

620,000 Americans died in the civil war. More than all other wars we fought in combined.

[@copsrobertsokl5127]

J.D. I have to applaud your opening statement couldn't of said it any better!! People need to realize that good or bad its history learn from it and don't repeat it. Tearing it down or destroying it doesn't mean it never happened. I love the civil war as well as the other war's we have been involved with and why I honestly couldn't tell you, but I do know it's not because of the nationality or color of a person's skin color. I enjoy all of the history of these United States of America!🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🇺🇸

[@gerardjoseph17]

JD.... just a very phenomenal job, most of us who truly enjoy the historical perspective of the Civil War really don't care for the political obsession it has become . Thanks for keeping the focus, as a Vietnam era veteran and a CW re-enactor I always cherished and honored all those who sacrificed. Leaders, Generals, Lieutenants, Majors, Colonels, Sargeants....Cavalry, Infantry, Militia, Naval, to spies, doctors, nurses, and surgeons, and civilians all experienced life rendering situations, Battle flags, monuments, battlefields, and cemeteries were respected and not to be used for modern day purposes or abuse. I stand with you in keeping it so. in not distorting history. Lord bless you !

[@scorpman300]

no monument, statue, or memorial should ever be taken down just because you dont agree with it, because it offends you, or you think it is causing something that it is not. it is history, history is not there for you to like, enjoy, to not offend you, or make you happy, it is there for you to learn and grow from so that the evils of the past are never re-peted and the world can be made better. the men and women of the Confederacy are americans and deserve all the respect that comes with that honor. all the monuments statues, and memorials must be protected no matter what. the civil war was not fought for the reasons that you think, people were very different back then. this is why real history and real facts have to be taught and the complete facts and history. this is one reason why i love your videos. keep up the great work.

[@TheUglyHooker]

Taking down a statue is NOT erasing history. History is what it is. Its in books and museums etc. You CANT erase history! What is being done IS to no longer have monuments to HONOR men who fought FOR slavery. Keeping them is like honiring the men who fought to promote Hitler's agenda. The South fought to promote the South's agenda for slavery and that was shameful, no matter how you slice that cake.

[@arwbjw]

Another excellent video. I totally agree with you they need to be remembered. Of my 58 ancestors that fought in the war one fought for the south against his 4 brothers from the north. He had his reasons that we will never know for sure but still needs to be remembered. Thanks for what you do.

[@DDGVET4]

Fitzhugh Lee was not the only Confederate Officer who served in the Spanish American War in Cuba. A more famous or imfamous General Joseph Wheeler was appointed to Major General of volunteers and assumed command of the cavalry division which included Teddy Roosevelts "Rough Riders". During the Battle of Las Guasimas he got so excited he called out "Let's go boys, We've got the damn Yankees on the run again! He was 61 at the time. Later he served in the Phillippine-American War in 1899. He commanded First Brigade in Aurthur Mac Aurthur's Second Division untill 1900. He was mustered out of the volunteer service and commissioned a brigader general in the regular army. He retired September 10 1900.

[@Mr5thWave]

I didn't know about either soldiers' post-civil war service. I'll have to stop by Wheeler's residence east of Huntsville, Alabama next time I pass that way. Excellent information, and excellent video. Gotta love KZbin.

[@napoleonlempereur3021]

👍🇨🇵

[@davec4224]

Wow

[@roadlizardcu8664]

Many interesting twist & turns in the stories found within this cemetery. You have given many a great deal to research and that is good in that we can continue to learn from the past. Liked adding the story of the small girl and the dog. Very good video.

[@richarddennis8584]

I never add comments to videos, but I believe it's warranted here. Absolutely well done. Stirred me to my soul. People who place judgement on times they haven't lived through are doomed to have history repeat itself. These are all Americans, they weren't cast aside then, who are we to do it now?

[@bradleyjohnson1692]

Glad to see someone approaching this without bias. Just from the historical aspects of it. No matter what side they fought for war was hell for everyone. Thanks again for your video

[@jontaylor6068]

That cemetery is huge. It’s amazing place.

[@Mutley58]

Really enjoying this series. Thanks for your balanced approach to the history and the remembrance of the shared humanity & loss on all sides. Re: the Starke graves: “that must have been awful for their family.”

[@1psychofan]

If I can make bold I suggest you do an entire series on cemeteries ~you’re brilliant at it!

[@kimberlyjohnson1371]

I agree..he's brilliant at it.

[@simonwicker871]

I am British but have a great interest in history. I love this guys videos because he really tries hard to be impartial and to educate the viewer. The US civil war was a very significant event in not just US history, but also in world history. History Traveller does a great job at presenting the facts and little facets of historical fact that is in the main mot well known. Well done and keep em coming.

[@victorblock3421]

I'm from the north. I love my brothers in the South & I thank my 4th grade teacher, Mrs. Carlson, for teaching us about the civil war. I remember nothing she said but she did leave me with a life long impression that the people of the south were our brothers and not one bit less. I always enjoy passing through Kentucky, Virginia, Carolinas, and all parts.

[@yvonneakers385]

Excellent! I am a teacher and can use your videos in the classroom because of the way you present an unbiased approach. Keep them coming! Great quality in a day and age you can rarely find something worthy to show in the classroom.

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@klsc8510]

Thank you for teaching. That is too fast becoming a lost art.

[@werisetogether5781]

THANK YOU for your comments at the beginning - I study and enjoy history, always seeking to learn, understand, acknowledge, and appreciate...from the multiple perspectives that constitute our history.

[@KarenRose70]

I hate that memorials for either side are being taken down. It's our history and it gives us something to learn we wouldn't otherwise.

[@jontaylor6068]

Agree. I use to come to this cemetery mostly everyday. People these days wants to erase history.

[@waynemeyer6514]

100% agree

[@edgarroste7855]

Really enjoyed this video. Even as a Canadian with no direct connection to the American civil war, I still am fascinated by how this tragic event came about. It speaks to the flaws and brokenness of all humans. So, there is much we can all still learn from the civil war that needs to be taught and reflected upon so that we do not repeat these mistakes. Please do not allow this history to be taken down or re-written for those so easily offended by the past. Ironically, they are very ones who need to humbly learn the most from this history.

[@jonathantitus2629]

I found this very informative and educational. I appreciate the "ground rules" you begin with and the comments at the end. I am in favor of NO statues/monuments/memorials being taken down. We can't change history by attempting to erase it, but we can definitely learn from.

[@savanahmclary4465]

the Statues & monuments are geographical set and holds encryption... of Southern Wealth. You tear a statue down. They are shooting themselves in the foot.. You need to know American history and who the American were and are

[@dconn74]

Great job! I really enjoyed that, and no, I am not angry on either side of the Jefferson Davis issue! We cannot judge historical characters by today's standers. To do so is not fair to them and is misleading to those being taught the opposite. History is not ours to change, but to learn from.

[@gavinculpepper9685]

Very well said

[@1psychofan]

If I can make bold enough to suggest it--you really should do an entire series on various cemeteries. You are brilliant at it!

[@eileenmurphy5718]

You are correct about not fighting about history, it has been written down and men and women have lost their lives. Respect the dead and what they fought for, no matter how YOU feel about it.

[@alanaadams7440]

Amen

[@michellejackson4828]

Enjoyed your video. They just passed a rule at Hollywood Cemetery that they no longer allow any Confederate flags in the cemetery.

[@elizabethdonegan6130]

We live in Mechanicsville about 5 miles from downtown Richmond. Maybe 6 years ago my husband had a contract to upgrade the lighting in 6 area civil war cemeteries. Hollywood was not one of them. The cemeteries were closed to the public while he and I worked. When installing wire, we had an obstacle on top of a grave. We told the grounds keeper there was a cement box on top of a grave. It was buried only about a foot or so down. It turned out to be the wife of a soldier that had been buried before her. We said a prayer and went around the grave. We were very respectful to the property. They were all so beautiful and peaceful. I hope all those who lived through such turmoil, be it physical, spiritual, or moral found their peace.

[@HistoryAdventures9263]

Great job I hope everyone realizes that the soldiers of the south was doing what they felt was right thank you for expressing that

[@RakkasanRakkasan]

Well said in the beginning of your presentation. Remember these people had a life and history before the war and a life and history after the war.

[@josephjones4412]

Thank you for the series can you visit general Jackson and Lee graves in Lexington in a future video please

[@ElCid48]

Nice place to visit.

[@infidel202]

Greetings from Australia, don't let anyone take your history or try to rewrite it, some people like to judge from 170 years later and that is ludicrous,to understand why you would have to have lived in the times, I would love to visit this place one day and stay for a few weeks, brave men

[@jennyknight4248]

Hi in from Australia as well. I love your videos . There is so much History that I had no idea about what happened in the war. Very heart breaking but the Truth. Thank You very much for education information . We all should know the Truth ...

[@TheUglyHooker]

So you're saying I would've had to live in those times to understand slavery is wrong. So I can't judge them.....Really

[@billgreer870]

Thats increditable. How many battles one man can be in. Wow. Can't change history even if you dont like it , we cant judge them 150 yrs later. Thanks

[@chrisdavern9482]

Really enjoyable series …massively interested in the American Civil War from across the Pond. You really capture your audience ,brilliant stuff

[@theotherconfederrasputin2729]

Welcome, to your life's continuation, assuming your of Brit desent, WERE ALL REALLY IN THIS ONE TOGETHER! From the very beginnings of our governments instituted, we southerners are the very same descendants of your ROUNDHEADS, in your civil war fighting against the crowns crooked rule! Are you aware of the translation of the word(s) BRITISH? as BRIT TRANSLATES (COVENANT), AND "ISH" MAN, THUS BRITISH, HENSE THE COVENANT-MAN! I know this is ultra far front as the intrige over the American conflict alone is so mentally, even spiritually, consuming, historicly, even so if a very many years later, so, drag up a chair, while we unbox other parts of ourselves maybe previously unknown to us both, through the guise of the Magnacarta, the Federal and Confederate constitutions alike, you're very welcome mate!

[@logicaredux5205]

William Smith had been awarded a contract by Andrew Jackson to carry mail from Washington DC to Milledgeville, Georgia. He improved his contract by developing spur routes along the way that earned him extra fees. He was given the Nickname “Extra Billy.”

[@tommichaels2581]

“Extra Billy” was a Southern politician in Virginia. During the Civil War, his constituents came to him for assistance in things like food stuffs, and he actually procured them at least the amount and more that they sometimes requested, garnering the name “Extra Billy.”

[@toddgreve6587]

"EXTRA" Billy got the nickname when, earlier in life, he delivered mail and went the "extra" mile!

[@gubbylee]

I just wish he was "extra" on the 2nd at Gettysburg and went the "extra" mile and took that hill !

[@michaellaverty1844]

These’s a BBQ place in the City called Extra Billy’s.

[@marktomlin5484]

He reason he went the “extra mile” was he got a piece of the postage money.

[@michaelbee2165]

@@michaellaverty1844 Really? Cool.

[@cuttyrant1480]

@@michaellaverty1844 no longer.

[@markbower1171]

I know very well the shoe leather you sacrificed for this video. I have walked this ground and located all of the generals at Hollywood. The staff at Hollywood was both gracious and very helpful to find them all. They are a wealth of knowledge and happy to assist. There are other prominent people to locate beyond CSA generals. Visiting Hollywood is a wonderful glimpse into history. As a bonus, they are dog friendly. My pup walked every step with me over 2 days.

[@chrismcculloch]

Thank you kindly sir for sharing this tour of Hollywood Cemetery. It's a very beautiful cemetery. Dr. Douglas Southhall Freeman who wrote "Lee's Lieutenants" is also buried there.

[@Lava1964]

From a Canadian who loves American history, this was excellent. (I wrote a history term paper on Jefferson Davis many years ago in university.)

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

Thanks!

[@philmccracken7520]

We all should bare in mind , that before civil war and right before the fighting ..all members of US miltary was against fighting a civil war ! Our goverment on national level failed and US Miltary paid the price reguardless of Side ! And this reason both vets of North and South wanted these monuments so we can learn not to make the same mistakes and never have another civil war again !

[@jamesh6024]

Interesting fact: The gravesite of Jeff Davis in Richmond, VA is his second grave. His initial, albeit temporary, burial site was at Metaire Cemetery in New Orleans. It wasn’t the most ornate of graves. In fact, it was a simple niche within a larger vault which held the remains of other Confederates. After the move of the remains, the niche had been kept empty and a new cover, a piece of stone into which his signature was carved, was installed.

[@karen-3871]

Watching 3 years after this video was made, but wanted to thank you for your thoughtful commentary. To continue having issues with our nation's history will never move us forward. It happened, it's history, and that makes it worthwhile to study and learn from. (New subscriber, and I'm truly enjoying your videos.)

[@davidgabrielsen2139]

Simply said, cemeteries and monuments provide historical perspective and context....for thinking people

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

Yes.

[@tennesse_courier]

Very knowledgeable episode our history has to be preserved.I appreciate you mentioning my home town. Knoxville, Tennessee. Which itself was split during the Civil War. Individuals who served firmly believed in there convictions. I continue to learn and grow. For a old guy who hated history in high school I've learned so much from your videos. Loving me some history.

[@rickfarmer7494]

If south would of won

[@jackpine62]

So glad you visited Richmond, and Hollywood Cemetery. A fascinating, sobering, and often challenging, place. The Ruth's Chris Steakhouse here is in a home formerly occupied by Confederate General A.P. Hill. He is buried in the middle of what is now the intersection of two main roads in Richmond's north side. In the waiting area of the restaurant is what's claimed to be the medical kit Dr. McGuire actually used to amputate Jackson's arm. Finally, near my home is an area called Black Heath, which I recently learned is where Henry Heth was born and raised.

[@georgiapines7906]

Gen. A. P. Hill was a magnificent man, in my humble opinion.❤ Thank you for sharing the historical info.

[@BobSmith-zp2kk]

Your comments regarding the lessons -- and meaning -- of the past were truly superb. Well stated! Thank you.

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

Thanks!

[@bjeanette20]

I recently found out in my genealogy journey, that I'm distantly related to Gen. George E Pickett. I live in Hampton, Va now and have visited Hollywood, its hauntingly beautiful. Thank you for your presenting of history!

[@johndunn4228]

I fear that by "erasing" the past future Americans will be doomed to repeat such horror as the US Civil War. I am concerned about revealing any location of history anymore, and am saddened that this channel has to spend so much tape time rationalizing everything every American should already know. But I realize these are tough times and no less so on social media. Thanks for your excellent history lessons live on site. They are so appreciated.

[@ellaw356]

That was very interesting. I find that the lives of both sides, (while I may not agree with some of them), is history that needs to be remembered. Thank you.

[@karenmcpherson9221]

You don't need to explain anything. I have a grandfather on both sides and I have never felt the need to be ashamed of or explain the Confederate one. Both sides fought hard and suffered much. All the soldiers should be respected for what they endured and for their valor.

[@napoleonlempereur3021]

👍👍👍🇨🇵❤🇩🇪❤🇺🇲

[@jasonpayne3363]

You’re a good man, and I appreciate all you do and everything you teach us. You’re always going to offend someone and I know you say things to help us learn and understand history. That’s why I follow you anyway. Keep up the incredible work. Safe travels ahead

[@clevereagle9327]

Excellent video. I agree that Confederate monuments in cemeteries should not be removed. As for those confederate monuments located at court houses, on public squares and so on, they are more problematic.

[@barbarahayek1756]

Thankyou for this show, your comments mean so much to me . please dont ever stop . all mouments of the Civil was must be kept or our young people will repeat the same mistakes. they need to know all the history not just a few battles or a few special men on both sides.

[@dennisunglesbee1391]

It is a shame that you have to make some disclaimers at the beginning of this awesome video. It is a part of our history, who we are and how we got to where we are today. Looking forward to the next video. Take care and God bless.

[@kathleenbrenner2889]

Fantastic video! Well done! When people accuse me of being a Southern sympathizer I tell them I’m a HISTORY sympathizer. It took TWO sides to make the Civil War. Ignoring one side you don’t get the full story

[@gubbylee]

Great way of putting it ...well said !!

[@marvinjohnson424]

When I was in Greenwood cemetery in New Orleans there is a mound ( mausoleum) there with crepts in it and one of them is labeled Jefferson Davis. It has a lot of other confederate shoulders entombed in it.

[@cptjeff1]

Davis died in New Orleans and was initially buried there. He was moved to Richmond later.

[@samuelledbetter331]

Great video. As a retired combat veteran we all need to study, remember, and understand what happened in order to move to the future. Your comments were spot on.

[@kmorris180]

Thank you for being so respectful of the resting places of our soldiers.

[@patrickfairchild2330]

Just remembering - that's what graveyards do.

[@angelaw.325]

If you use Find a Grave, you can put a GPS plot on each memorial page to make the grave easier to find for others. Saves a lot of time for others.

[@georgiapines7906]

Find A Grave is our friend!😊 I love to see the resting place of people (especially my relatives), hopefully read a tidbit about them, and perhaps leave a heartfelt sentiment.

[@nealatthecrossfishing]

I recently discovered your series. Thank you for presenting history and being objective and respectful to it. I truly appreciate what you’re doing! P.S. I live very close to Toccoa, Georgia and I will be visiting Camp Currahee.

[@032319581]

I agree with you 100%! My family is from NC, my great great grandfather fought in the Civil War. I was born in PA and grew up in MD. Bel Air (where John Wilkes Booth was born). I do not think moneuments should be torn down. If we FORGET what happened, we will repeat history in some form. Put a marker showing the other side of the story! We can not erase history, only learn from it and some want to eradicate it! Learn from mistakes we made remembering the Jewish people in WW2! My father fought in that war, Korea, Vietnam and Gulf! His sacrifice deserves to be remembered!

[@gerardhiggins1]

I'm a Canadian, so for me it's history, no matter what side of the Civil War it lands on.

[@brucetucker4847]

Thank you for this. I grew up in Richmond and, strange as it may seem, Hollywood Cemetery is one of my favorite places on the planet. It's not just Civil War dead, there is a lot of lovely Victorian funerary art there as well as a beautiful view of the rapids of the James River. Richmond was also the site of what was at the time the world's largest hospital in what is now Chimborazo Park, where tens of thousands of men wounded in all the bloody battles in Virginia were treated. I imagine a lot of the dead interred in Hollywood came from that hospital.

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

If you've watched a few episodes and feel like I've earned it, be sure to subscribe so that you don't miss any new content when it comes out. And before you ask me about Stuart and Pickett, watch this episode: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJqXqYB3Z7WqqJo Thanks!

[@robertcunningham6476]

Amazing video and so well executed! You have a wonderful mind in how you think and articulate your personal thoughts. Thank you for stepping out! I appreciate your values as you dig into history.

[@offworldatom8850]

Hang Tough

[@rooster3265]

Please don’t take this as a criticism, I love your videos. We’re you not able to find George Pickett’s grave?

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

@@rooster3265 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oJqXqYB3Z7WqqJo :)

[@rev-mikemckay9750]

@illmerica Sorry, but the United States (Federals) went to war against him.

[@KowboyUSA]

"numini et patriae asto." - They stood for God and their country.

[@cojim96]

I've been to Hollywood Cemetery many times. I always enjoy walking the grounds enjoying the peace and quiet. Only the sound of the James River contributes to the calming effect.

[@TheHistoryUnderground]

Pretty amazing place.

[@veedejames721]

We are all History lovers here. Comming from a Military family on both sides of my family. I love sharing these videos with my family. Love, respect and positivity always. Vee, Andrew and Family.✌️🖖🕯️🦋🌻💕🙏🙂👋👣.