The Great British Class System, Explained

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JimmyTheGiant

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@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 25 күн бұрын
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@GizmoMaxx
@GizmoMaxx 25 күн бұрын
Damn you ! I have binge on this intro @:0:02 lol
@ronanbakker
@ronanbakker 25 күн бұрын
I'm from a self made Dutch upper class we are even above the King Willem Alexander look up the Domeinen 2005 Act we are mainly interested in scientific or government jobs. Since the Netherlands loves auctions if you do that well the King will respect you. And we speak proper Dutch and RP English. We can buy clothes from the Bijenkorf and premier stores. Could you make a video about the Dutch aristocracy please? Lots of people don't understand our political system at all.
@satisfied656
@satisfied656 25 күн бұрын
As always cool video🤗beside one little mistake: When related to aristocracy "blood-lines" or NOT a "Hitlery" thing,....fact is it´s more an "inbreed" thing!🤔
@satisfied656
@satisfied656 25 күн бұрын
@@ronanbakker Bijenkorf💩is poop! You can buy ALL products there for a cheaper price elsewhere,...even on the original stores of the brands🤔....and i´m NOT talking about "outlets or 2nd-hand stores"!🙄This place is for dumb folks who like to burn money....😏
@satisfied656
@satisfied656 25 күн бұрын
@@ronanbakker Ugh..c´mon.."de´Bijenkorf"💩is poop! You can literally buy ALL the products there cheaper elswhere...even at the original brands own stores/websites!🤔And i´m NOT talking about "second-hand & outlet stores"!🙄This is just a place for dumb folks who like to burn their money, nothing more...😏
@ericdane7769
@ericdane7769 24 күн бұрын
I like how in The Gentlemen Guy Ritchy states that "English nobility are the original gangsters." They grabbed power & money via violence, then solidified their position by pretending they were 'noble'.
@StallionStudios1234
@StallionStudios1234 23 күн бұрын
Just like the Italian Nobility as well during the 14 and 1500s like the Medici. They were the real first Italian gangsters.
@LucyKelly-of6cu
@LucyKelly-of6cu 23 күн бұрын
It has been thus since forever. Like when we were monkies up in the trees. It is the Beast System. But it will change soon, when Jesus returns.
@freeman10000
@freeman10000 23 күн бұрын
Sounds exactly like the Chinese Communist Party.
@ianedmonds9191
@ianedmonds9191 23 күн бұрын
Of course they did. There's a wonderful segment on the back of the book "the poor had no lawyers" A land owner comes across a guy walking through a forest he owns. The land owner says WTF? Get off my land. The guy says why is this your land? The land owner says "My ancestors fought to make this land ours." OK says the guy. I'll fight you for it now. The rich oppressed us because they were hard back then now they are weak and they expect the government to protect their position but we vote in the government and we can take back our lands. We could have with Corbyn but Starmer might be set in that direction with enough Campaigning. This is our time. Luv and Peace.
@JSmusiqalthinka
@JSmusiqalthinka 22 күн бұрын
Yup. Tupac unironically contributed to sociology by pointing out the fundamentally gang-like nature of not just modern power structures like the police, but power itself.
@harrywelfare4449
@harrywelfare4449 25 күн бұрын
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@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 25 күн бұрын
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@MrKingkz
@MrKingkz 25 күн бұрын
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@the.watcher.on.the.wall..
@the.watcher.on.the.wall.. 25 күн бұрын
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@louiefielding163
@louiefielding163 25 күн бұрын
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@jamesdreads7828
@jamesdreads7828 25 күн бұрын
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@ctlspl
@ctlspl 25 күн бұрын
In Germany aristocrats were expected to become officers in the army. It was sort of a unwritten contract, that they had to repay their privileges by serving the King / Kaiser/ Führer.
@ericdane7769
@ericdane7769 24 күн бұрын
Showing military prowess was how you became aristocrat in the first place. You win wars, you get rewarded a castle. Nothing honourable or sacrificial about it. Heck, without ambitious aristocrats, 90% of wars wouldn't even have happened.
@ctlspl
@ctlspl 24 күн бұрын
@@ericdane7769 In Germany it was that the land owners lent their peasants to the military of the kings and received nobility titles as a reward.
@rodionradchenko7708
@rodionradchenko7708 24 күн бұрын
@@ctlspl yeah, but how did they become land owners in the first place? They were part of a local warlord's warband, razed a bunch of villages and got the land in their posession. Long before Germany existed as a nation state.
@brendanpells912
@brendanpells912 24 күн бұрын
Continental countries had to live with armies sweeping across their territory from time to time, upsetting the established order. Britain hasn't endured a successful invasion since 1066, so the Establishment has had almost 1000 years to bed in.
@fredlfesl6026
@fredlfesl6026 24 күн бұрын
My family has always been in military positions, although my line never exeeded the rank of a knight. My granddad still sold weapons to the persians for a german company in the Wirtschaftswunder- era.
@matthewcoombs3282
@matthewcoombs3282 23 күн бұрын
When you understand that Britain is an unreformed feudal society, a lot makes sense. Where I live in West Berkshire 40% of the district is still owned by three families.
@Heiress960
@Heiress960 22 күн бұрын
Can ya explain more? you just made me curious lmao
@Rename_July
@Rename_July 22 күн бұрын
nevermind the royal head of state, what I find really crazy is that the upper house of parliament is literally a house of lords, with most seats being inherited. [edit:not true anymore, but they all are lifetime-appointees, which provides just about 100% as much corruption opportunity]
@amberlayton1328
@amberlayton1328 21 күн бұрын
i live in newbury and i didn’t know this wth. knew it was posh but that’s wild
@petesmitt
@petesmitt 20 күн бұрын
That's not feudalism, just capitalistic wealth, usually inherited.
@castorchua
@castorchua 20 күн бұрын
@@petesmitt The argument FOR inherited titles goes like this - it allows for people that are not solely competing for power to make decisions
@r.hagenau3541
@r.hagenau3541 19 күн бұрын
It is rather simple: Lower Classes -- they are owned. Middle Class -- they own themselves. Upper Class -- they own others. Or in economic terms terms: Lower Classes -- living day by day, no assets, no access to capital. Middle Class -- they own as personal assets what they utilize, but need to work for a living, some have capital. Upper Class -- no need to work, living off capital gains, own and control resources and societal narrative.
@xiaomoogle
@xiaomoogle 24 күн бұрын
My accent betrays me in some ways. I sound posh. My dad was a builder and my mum grew up in total poverty (but in a loving family). I went to a private school on an assisted place (because my parents couldn't afford the fees but I did so well in the entrance exam). I was kicked out of home while still at school when my mum died and my dad married a narcissist. I then self funded my way through the rest of my life with no financial aid. I developed anxiety, depression and chronic pain on the way - now I am over all of that and have a well paid job in London. I'm really proud of myself. However, I now get slapped with 'privileged white woman' in multi cultural intersectional victimhood loving London. It's a joke tbh. Growing up with no family support is really stressful on your body and mind, regardless of your background or skin colour. Having a loving, supporting family is the greatest privilege anyone can be blessed with, in my opinion. I do feel I've had to work twice as hard to get to where I am.
@sn-nu6wg
@sn-nu6wg 22 күн бұрын
Fair play 🙌🏻
@annetoronto5474
@annetoronto5474 22 күн бұрын
Victim privilege is definitely a thing in society, look at Oprah… billionaire victim! Sorry your dad married someone toxic, that sucks!
@Hali88
@Hali88 21 күн бұрын
Quite the life story, losing your Mum must have been tough, hope the narcissist stepmother is out of the picture now. I guess the private school is what led to the posh accent? You can change your accent if you want to.
@JawandoOokomondo-cb7fm
@JawandoOokomondo-cb7fm 21 күн бұрын
🙄
@Yolaeth
@Yolaeth 21 күн бұрын
​ i think its the money and the looking down ones nose, and writing off everyone else as intersectional victims that makes you a toff, ask any upper class what makes you upper class and they will say blood but ask any working class and they will tell you its power and the attitude towards those lower than themselves
@occamsfarm1675
@occamsfarm1675 22 күн бұрын
I think it was on the Second Thought that I heard: There is no middle class, upper class or lower class. There's only working class and the ruling class. If you have to work to get through the month and don't get to call the shots, you're working class. I liked that painful reality check.
@rogerstone3068
@rogerstone3068 7 күн бұрын
Not so. The concept of 'working class' is founded in the idea of people who are employed by other (owners, maybe through a structures of managers) to do tasks. They are relatively powerless; they need not be educated; they can change jobs but they don't control what they do. Professionals - doctors, teachers, lawyers, managers, accountants, etc - are different in that they earn more, they have qualifications. There is a difference in lifestyle, house ownership, pensions and in expectations, but they are still working for a living, at someone else's beck and call. The upper classes OWN stuff and can take decisions about how to derive income from it. They have more control over their lives (and their decisions affect the lives of thousands of others. However, they do still have to work in as much as taking those decisions, and getting it right - that's work, too.
@rock3tcatU233
@rock3tcatU233 24 күн бұрын
Anytime an aristocrat goes broke, a chav receives his Adidas tracksuit.
@thejjjwils
@thejjjwils 22 күн бұрын
😂
@annetoronto5474
@annetoronto5474 22 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 love it!
@ScholarOfBabylon
@ScholarOfBabylon 21 күн бұрын
Northface tracksuit, but yeah haha
@djoseph5130
@djoseph5130 21 күн бұрын
😅
@Wandering_Owl
@Wandering_Owl 19 күн бұрын
😂😂😂 I am dead
@OldQueer
@OldQueer 25 күн бұрын
Worst thing about this country. I have a very mild Geordie accent (locals often ask where I'm from originally) but work in finance and IT for London based firms. The shit I've heard in professional meetings would be an insant sacking if I was a Pakistani or something. I've had my accent mocked, been told I can't be taken seriously, told didn’t realise you lot could use computers, etc. The class system in this country is pervasive and vile. Can't wait to leave the UK eventually. I'm always made to feel like a lesser person here.
@OldQueer
@OldQueer 25 күн бұрын
To add, when I'm home my family take the piss out of me now "talking posh" and thinking I'm above my station. Can't win.
@user-im8bv8po2w
@user-im8bv8po2w 25 күн бұрын
@@OldQueer fuck this country honestly
@freddiemedley5580
@freddiemedley5580 25 күн бұрын
Yeah it definitely goes both ways. I'm from Nottingham but hung out with and played Rugby with the kids from the local public school (I went to a school that had three one star off stead reports in a row 💀 btw), so I picked up alot of etiquette rules and posh mannerisms. Anyway due to that I often get odd looks when I go up to Northumberland or Yorkshire to see family, they see me as a posh tory even though I'm just as working class as them.
@mortarien
@mortarien 25 күн бұрын
I have a guy at work who is a Geordie and he speaks very, very slowly - claims so that he's understood. I asked him once to speak normally and I had no issues understanding him, despite not being British and english not being my native language (okay his accent is thick, but not unreasonable; I would've had real trouble understanding him if we were talking over a bad line or next to a busy, noisy road, but not in a quiet environment like home or an office). It's sad how many people just stop listening if they don't hear what they expect, like an accent.
@OldQueer
@OldQueer 25 күн бұрын
@@mortarien I've had a lot of foreign people say they can understand me more clearly than other English people. I make an effort to speak at a pace and with a cadence that's understandable to all and try to mute some of the way I'd say words if I was speaking to locals
@helenagackowska8398
@helenagackowska8398 25 күн бұрын
Using Stepen Merchants face when you talk about the merchant class is cracking me up so much lool
@dockerdave
@dockerdave 25 күн бұрын
It's a great gag
@mikehamilton367
@mikehamilton367 24 күн бұрын
That was too good 😂😂
@error-xn7hn
@error-xn7hn 15 күн бұрын
The first time I saw a Merchant, I thought "hilarious". Then next time I saw it, I thought "Oh... It's going to be every time is it? That's going to get old." But after that, it didn't get old! It was still awesome!
@evedonaldson8446
@evedonaldson8446 25 күн бұрын
People like Rishi didn't necessarily earn their own money by their own merit. He was born into a good amount of wealth and had all the tools to make more at his fingerprints. That combined with the fact he married a billionaire.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 24 күн бұрын
This is often overlooked. It's not so much the money you have but the doors you have open to you by virtue of going to the "correct school" for example. If you're from a poor background but your family can somehow pay to put you through a fancy school, you're not better educated than those in the state system, but you have connections there for later life that those in state school would never, ever have had access to even if they were the most intelligent and brilliant minds of a generation. There's a reason most people in positions of high office or power in this country went to places like Eton and Winchester, or one of the fancy universities. Both of them Just having that on your CV gets you through doors that wouldn't even be closed for people who went to other schools, they wouldn't even SEE the doors.
@user-hv7mr8ok6s
@user-hv7mr8ok6s 23 күн бұрын
@@TalesOfWarthe difference is that in britain you could do service to the empire and make a name for yourself but in india if you were born in a low caste or untouchable hindu family you would never be able to be a high rank officer or have wealth or own land.Many British officers were not nobility of course and still reached high ranks.Europe has been ahead of Asia in this aspect for centuries.
@user-hv7mr8ok6s
@user-hv7mr8ok6s 23 күн бұрын
Yes that is true
@cultfiction3865
@cultfiction3865 23 күн бұрын
Exactly no way is Rishi Sunak self made. For a start he does have an aristocratic accent, and had an expensive education at high end private schools and all the right connections to use honest people's heads as stepping stones
@pcprinciple3774
@pcprinciple3774 23 күн бұрын
and how much he made off covid
@Planktilious1
@Planktilious1 25 күн бұрын
There's an excellent book called Watching the English - The Hidden Rules of English Behaviour. It's a fascinating study of what makes English people English. Being able to determine someone's class is hard-wired into the English. From the way you speak to what school you went to are all loud pointers towards someone's class. How you dress and even what you eat. The English (As well as the Welsh, Scots and Irish) recognise very quickly which class you occupy. How you got your money also comes into it. Inherited wealth is superior to newly earned wealth. You can't jump class with cash. You're simply born into it.
@andrewwotherspoona5722
@andrewwotherspoona5722 25 күн бұрын
Actually, only the English have a true preoccupation with class. The class system is largely imposed upon them by the English. Before the English the Scots and Irish were much more egalitarian. Which is why they had 4 universities at a time when the English only had two (despite England having four times the population).
@keithwellerlounge74
@keithwellerlounge74 24 күн бұрын
‘You can’t jump class with cash’ - one thing I can’t stand is people like Alan Sugar claiming to be working class just because they have a cockney accent. Sure, the born upper class may scoff at him, but I’d like to think the true working class would scoff at him as well. At the end of it money defines your life, not playing up to stereotypes.
@hannah60000
@hannah60000 24 күн бұрын
@@keithwellerlounge74 Yes, he’s definitely not “working class”. Alan Sugar is part of the “millionaire business class”, but he is from a “working class” background.
@cultfiction3865
@cultfiction3865 23 күн бұрын
​@@andrewwotherspoona5722It doesn't mean they can always determine someone's class accurately though. They can only form an impression of what they think it is. My mother was raised in one of the most impoverished parts of UK but because she loved period dramas and related books, she always was well spoken compared to most others in her town. All her life people from her own town asked her where she was from, thinking she must be from a family with jingly pockets. Until she told them she was from the same town as them. So yeah, people made their determinations but still got them wrong.
@jackwilliam2965
@jackwilliam2965 23 күн бұрын
​@@cultfiction3865Exactly education plays a big factor in what class your perceived. Sometimes even if you are working class but have the right mannerisms and understanding of the English language and literature then they don't care if you have a working class background.
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 25 күн бұрын
Seen as the election has been announced it becomes official that this is the first time in British history where living standards have dropped during a single Parliament and it is the largest drop in living standards since the Napoleonic war. And at the same time the richest in society have got a lot richer deepening the divide.
@fathertedczynski
@fathertedczynski 25 күн бұрын
Yea, I used to be someone who wasn't too concerned by the inequality that existed here, but the old illusion of meritocracy has been completely eroded in the UK now. It wasn't until I spent time away, experiencing how social classes exist in Australia, that I realised the extent of our problem. But I think it runs deep, it's often the attitude of the upper class to totally disregard any merit of anyone 'below' them, to the point that even the middle class is in an eternal uphill battle to be comfortable while the rich look down in disgust.
@ruaridhcameron3863
@ruaridhcameron3863 24 күн бұрын
@@fathertedczynski just moved to Melbourne from Glasgow and couldn't agree more.
@travisoutlaw9511
@travisoutlaw9511 24 күн бұрын
Britain might need another peasant revolt and the US might need another revolution. The King's taxes are out of hand all across the land. Cheers down under mate. My dad was from Brisbane
@stephenwonghongweng4298
@stephenwonghongweng4298 24 күн бұрын
Thanks to the Torie Party
@admiralbenbow5083
@admiralbenbow5083 23 күн бұрын
So does that make Alan Sugar, sorry LORD Sugar, `upper class` ??
@imkirbo3094
@imkirbo3094 24 күн бұрын
The UK Class system basically has no relevance to someones income. It's all about how they were brought up and what they think of themselves. You've got pensioners who can't afford their heating bill calling people scum because they think of them as a lower class, despite that "scum" earning 5x the money the pensioner has ever earned in their life. It's weird.
@Ray.Norrish
@Ray.Norrish 22 күн бұрын
You're right. Money is only one small part of the class structure (if at all). Everything from how you speak to holding a knife and fork weighs in. Music preference, behaviour, upbringing, dress choices... it goes on and on.
@richardhall5489
@richardhall5489 21 күн бұрын
Is it weird though? If it was primarily about money would it be...whatever the opposite if weird is?
@evm6177
@evm6177 21 күн бұрын
Yes considerably true facts.
@user-zz9gn2dc3l
@user-zz9gn2dc3l 17 күн бұрын
Scum refers to the level of your integrity and mortality certainly not your bank balance!
@user-zz9gn2dc3l
@user-zz9gn2dc3l 17 күн бұрын
My comment was immediately deleted
@CrazyMama75
@CrazyMama75 24 күн бұрын
I'm a lower class disabled single mum on benefits, not due to choice, but I sound upper middle class because I was taught to speak with a BBC British accent (I had to learn local regional accents to fit in in my peer group). It is hilarious when talking to people, especially middle class people who love chatting with me, at the theatre or a cafe in town, for example, they love talking or debating philosophy, politics or theology (the top subjects I've noticed), until they find out I'm on benefits then suddenly they're extremely confused and trying to hide their disgust 😂
@songoku9348
@songoku9348 22 күн бұрын
Unbelievable 🙄
@JawandoOokomondo-cb7fm
@JawandoOokomondo-cb7fm 21 күн бұрын
🙄
@ashley-fk6dp
@ashley-fk6dp 21 күн бұрын
sounds terrible i suffer from migraines and severe adhd what is your dissability ...sorry about the posh snobs u soud like an interesting person
@epfizerdoolittleajl2165
@epfizerdoolittleajl2165 20 күн бұрын
Caroline, is that you?
@kiuk_kiks
@kiuk_kiks 19 күн бұрын
What caused you to be in such a state?
@hassenmh2850
@hassenmh2850 22 күн бұрын
Great job 👏🏽 I'm a French guy living in the UK for 5 years and it always amazed me how class based Britain is, I never really understood. Without the French revolution we would have the same class divide today
@DolphineAchonga-gn6kn
@DolphineAchonga-gn6kn 20 күн бұрын
France isn't that different. They just don't have the titles. Much like the USA, Russia, Switzerland e.t.c, oligarchs have replaced aristocrats.
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 17 күн бұрын
@@DolphineAchonga-gn6kn France is still much more egalitarian. UK and US are the worst unequal countries in the developed world.
@randomthgt7807
@randomthgt7807 7 күн бұрын
@@etbadaboumI would ask you to check with France’s neo colonies and ask them how egalitarian France is….
@etbadaboum
@etbadaboum 7 күн бұрын
@@randomthgt7807 France has no colonies, and when I say France is egalitarian it's not just metropolitan France
@randomthgt7807
@randomthgt7807 7 күн бұрын
@@etbadaboum If France has no colonies, explain the situation in Caledonia? Explain why a number of African states (who have flag independence from France) have been required to maintain their gold reserves in French banks and said countries do not control their currency (France does)…Explain why the ppl in Niger and Burkina Faso have kicked the French out…Explain where the uranium that powers French homes comes from (and ask what % of homes are powered by uranium in said country)? Just start there and report back please.
@Itsembish.
@Itsembish. 25 күн бұрын
that’s my gcse history revision done for today 😂
@Rachel_M_
@Rachel_M_ 25 күн бұрын
Best of luck in your exams 🤞 I can think of worse teachers
@nukelertoonz8418
@nukelertoonz8418 25 күн бұрын
icl same like half of power and the people is in this 😂😂
@Arsenaldude21
@Arsenaldude21 25 күн бұрын
Just make sure you don't mention going down the pub with da boyz
@Rachel_M_
@Rachel_M_ 24 күн бұрын
@@Arsenaldude21 good gosh!!! we'd never do such a thing when I was young... .... It was a bottle of 20-20 down the park before heading to the nearest rave 😂
@tryingcat
@tryingcat 23 күн бұрын
ughhh i wish - i do health and the people 😭
@tombutler4184
@tombutler4184 25 күн бұрын
we did decapitate a king in England, or rather the middle class did. And we didn't nerf them, rather the middle and upper classes nerfed everyone else. Then Thatcher sold them the American Dream
@righteousmammon9011
@righteousmammon9011 25 күн бұрын
America is pretty good to live in actually.
@pumpkinpatch5
@pumpkinpatch5 25 күн бұрын
@@righteousmammon9011Depending on the State. Ever seen the poverty-stricken areas of Florida? I have. I floored it through those neighbourhoods.
@aregularperson7573
@aregularperson7573 25 күн бұрын
⁠@@righteousmammon9011it’s depends on where you live in if you live in the suburbs your Doing okay but if you live in the Hood my only advice is to avoid them or learn how to dodge bullets.
@mrhacker99999
@mrhacker99999 25 күн бұрын
@@righteousmammon9011 Full of paranoia over there
@John_Kennedy27
@John_Kennedy27 25 күн бұрын
​@@righteousmammon9011Just don't look at all the poor people eh?
@Campaigner82
@Campaigner82 17 күн бұрын
As a Swede (Scandinavian) the UKs classism sounds so old fashioned and weird.
@chrisr8080
@chrisr8080 14 күн бұрын
Bröllopsfotografen :)
@sams3015
@sams3015 10 күн бұрын
I can’t speak for Sweden but in Denmark when I lived there, social class was very much there but it sort of ignored until people wanted to vent. My ex bf family were divorced and the dad was very working class and the mum and her partner were very middle class. It was definitely there, not to mention there are still aristocrats and Royalty as there is in Sweden and Norway (not sure if they have aristocracy)
@Campaigner82
@Campaigner82 9 күн бұрын
@@sams3015 Royalty have no power and aristocrats are the same
@theelusivepyroshark5119
@theelusivepyroshark5119 2 күн бұрын
@@sams3015 Yea I don't know what their on about, I'm also Swedish and I'm middle class but many of my friends are lower class. There is a clear difference between how we're perceived and treated.
@likatalikata3823
@likatalikata3823 16 күн бұрын
I'm Kenyan and my country's colonial history was literally built on the British class system where the British aristocracy sent their scions to start a feudal state in Africa complete with castles, manors and landed gentry with white aristocratic Brits as the ruling class, Indians/Pakistanis taking up the merchant class and Africans acting as the serfs....it lasted for 60 years with an African revolt on the unjust system leading to independence. Now the curious part is Kenya still retained the class system. Only now in 2024 we have African political leaders as the landed gentry with a few remnants of the old British aristocracy. Both black and white still aspire to send their children to the elite UK schools, speak with the same posh accents and come back home to take key positions in Kenya's economic and social spaces. The Indians also rose up the economic ladder to form the upper middle class and wealthy merchants (part of Rishi Sunak's background is from this part of Kenyan society). The black Africans span the entire spectrum of the classes with almost the same attitudes and dynamics as described in the video. At least now I understand the origins of my country's class structure better after watching this.
@selfcaresally
@selfcaresally 25 күн бұрын
It’s interesting how the 17th century British colonists along the North American midatlantic were a weird mixture of aristocratic “second sons” who had to make their own fortunes, destitute peasants who were cleared off the common land by the Parliamentary Enclosure Acts, and skilled laborers from the middle class. They mostly felt pretty ok adopting a new lowest-class (enslaved and indigenous people) because they thought that was how the world works and they were just glad that bottom class wasn’t them. And yet we still act like peoples’ place in society is because of their own personal choices. Some things haven’t changed.
@DillardAlpaugh
@DillardAlpaugh 23 күн бұрын
My fucking ass America has ever had a class system, and anybody who's complicit and indifferent to one ever being established in this country will also be on the receiving end of a barrel of a gun. If you're frustrated with our American standard of living, then be a citizen and organize. And keep this bullshit on the other side of the Atlantic, fucking repulsive.
@AstroboyAdventures
@AstroboyAdventures 23 күн бұрын
My ass America has ever had a class system. And anybody who is complicit and indifferent to one ever being established will also be the receiving end of the barrel of a gun. If you’re frustrated with our American standards of living, then be a citizen and organize. And keep this on the other side of the Atlantic, fucking repulsive.
@celticdeamon567
@celticdeamon567 22 күн бұрын
Being enslaved ultimately requires your consent.
@obrnenydrevokocur9344
@obrnenydrevokocur9344 22 күн бұрын
"And yet we still act like peoples’ place in society is because of their own personal choices. Some things haven’t changed." Quite a few things have changed since the 1860s, a lot of immigrant groups had to endure serfdom or even slavery-like conditions many decades later, and yet they are doing much better on average.
@houseofvenusMD
@houseofvenusMD 22 күн бұрын
​@@celticdeamon567how can a child consent to slavery?
@merigarcia201
@merigarcia201 21 күн бұрын
Let’s be honest here: if the UK truly wanted an equal society, they would start from the very bottom with high-quality, affordable (or free) education. Replicating the Nordic model, as seen in Finland, is the best example. Having lived in both the UK and Finland for a long time, I can tell you the difference in how society functions in each is abysmal. In the UK, there are so many elites in the upper spheres who’d start trembling at the very thought that maybe their historical privileges would go down the drain a few generations down the line if we actually used a meritocratic system. Imagine this: if everyone received the same high-quality education and qualified for the best public universities based on merit, they’d have the skills and knowledge to apply for the jobs they are most qualified for, purely based on merit. At this point, we would have a final sample of people who are there for purely meritocratic reasons. Let’s cut the nonsense about the idea that “some” Eton kids are middle class who just work hard. That’s bullshit! The price tag is too high to enter that “equality” illusion.
@samuelphillian1286
@samuelphillian1286 11 сағат бұрын
Education is one of the lies the upper classes sell, innovation is the only way up
@youknow6968
@youknow6968 25 күн бұрын
In India, it's doesn't stop at the cutlery. It also varies from area to area. You can't use the same water well. You mustn't allow your shadow to touch the upper class. You can't walk in front of their house. You can't use the same temple. And so on...
@davidh6300
@davidh6300 24 күн бұрын
Wow that's nasty.
@youknow6968
@youknow6968 24 күн бұрын
@@davidh6300 that's the reality. Easily found on a Google search.
@amvideos1041
@amvideos1041 23 күн бұрын
Only limited in dehati people lol.
@youknow6968
@youknow6968 23 күн бұрын
@@amvideos1041 true, although not entirely. It happens in urban areas plenty, but I believe it's more refined, I've heard only untouchable students cleaning toilets in a school, urban area, not others. Plus, most people in India live in rural areas.
@amvideos1041
@amvideos1041 23 күн бұрын
@@youknow6968 not happen in Bengal or Assam.
@johnnychopping3655
@johnnychopping3655 9 күн бұрын
I grew up in a very working class family in North West London (parents met working in the post office).... at age 11 I was sent to a grammar school outside of London where 95% of the kids were super posh from very rich areas like Windsor, Ascot, etc... I was regularly mocked for my accent and called a 'chav'.... in year 7 Secret Santa an upper class girl bought me a bar of soap and a bottle of shampoo, the implication very clearly being 'go wash yourself peasant'.... dont fool yourself into thinking classism is a thing of the past. It's very real.
@danpaz9485
@danpaz9485 5 күн бұрын
Damn, Im sorry for what happened to u, I’ve been bullied in the past before though for different reasons (Being autistic and possibly queer), I hope u doing fine as an adult?
@johnnychopping3655
@johnnychopping3655 5 күн бұрын
@@danpaz9485 thank you that's kind of you. I'm okay with it now yes but hard not to carry that stuff around for years. Also, just saying, as someone's who's on the spectrum, you're probably not queer, you're probably just autistic. Obviously I don't know you but I know lots of autistic people are getting dragged into the queer movement as they think that's the reason they don't 'fit in' with 'normal' society. You could be gay & autistic sure, but you're probably just autistic.
@AmirSatt
@AmirSatt 4 күн бұрын
Should've learnt boxing bruv
@johnnychopping3655
@johnnychopping3655 4 күн бұрын
@@AmirSatt I did kickboxing and karate as a kid.... how was that going to help? Should I have punched her in the face for getting me a cruel Christmas gift? Would have felt good, pretty sure that's an instant expulsion if not an arrest though 😂
@MegaCooliam
@MegaCooliam 25 күн бұрын
Rishi sunak is self made?? HE MARRIED A BILLIONAIRE'S DAUGHTER!!!!
@CartoType
@CartoType 25 күн бұрын
Yeah, but he chose to do that himself. Nobody gave him that marriage on a plate. He had to go out and find her.
@dariusalexandru9536
@dariusalexandru9536 25 күн бұрын
His father is a buisnessman and a chemist,sooo...
@NR-fd9wv
@NR-fd9wv 25 күн бұрын
that's why it's called marrytocracy
@Hunnid24
@Hunnid24 22 күн бұрын
Yeah Rishi Sunak’s wife is worth $700m but Rishi himself is worth $200m. A billionaire wouldn't marry off his daughter to a bum..
@westgabandon2463
@westgabandon2463 22 күн бұрын
Richi is apart of the East African Elite.
@badnewswade
@badnewswade 25 күн бұрын
It's so refreshing to see someone speaking honestly about our suffocating class system! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!!
@Minos-Charge
@Minos-Charge 23 күн бұрын
There is a saying in Chinese society. If you can't find a way to join the existing class, start your own and redefine it. That applies everywhere.
@senorpaella1492
@senorpaella1492 24 күн бұрын
In Spain, it got so bad in the 1930s that we ended up having a civil war because of the clash of classes. Resulting in 1 million Spanish deaths. Unfortunately, those struggles still continue in Spain. But it is fascinating to see how different European countries adapt to their social hierarchies as well as the needs of their people.
@oh_rhythm
@oh_rhythm 23 күн бұрын
Would you say you can still see remnants of classicism in Spain? I'm currently in Madrid, studying spanish, and I've travelled a bit through Andalusia and Valencia and the society feels very friendly and "eye to eye".... But it's obvious to me that without the language I just can't understand the culture. I'm slowly progressing, it'll be a while... But as i said, to me, the Spaniards seem very community oriented and not ones to be divided by classicism.
@guillesrl7569
@guillesrl7569 23 күн бұрын
@@oh_rhythm Most definitely Spain has a classist undertone. I am a highly educated middle class expat living in Spain. Both lower and upper class individuals will make you feel you do not belong in the same lot as theirs.
@TheMingez2
@TheMingez2 22 күн бұрын
@@guillesrl7569they're racist
@G_v._Losinj2_ImportantPlaylist
@G_v._Losinj2_ImportantPlaylist 22 күн бұрын
A good docu by Juri Lina
@G_v._Losinj2_ImportantPlaylist
@G_v._Losinj2_ImportantPlaylist 22 күн бұрын
*”CIach0fF0rzez”*
@airex12
@airex12 25 күн бұрын
Would love to see a more detailed breakdown of the miners strikes and subsequent closures and the years that followed
@nukelertoonz8418
@nukelertoonz8418 25 күн бұрын
Yeah I second that; The 1926 General Strike is a great topic
@ZiggyZou
@ZiggyZou 24 күн бұрын
As an American I find this whole class system so strange. I grew up upper middle class, but I had friends that grew up in trailer parks and grew up in broken homes. I didn’t care. We have a class system in the US, but not like this. Cmon England
@RiaDonita
@RiaDonita 22 күн бұрын
England is stuck in the Georgian era. If you’re talented, intelligent or have a knack for something, they stifle your creativity or try to get you to humble your expectations. With you guys, you find a way to nurture, mature and make talent/knack great. There’s also opportunities for developing it which we don’t have here in the U.K. The U.K. has no regards for excellence, until you make it elsewhere and then they claim you. That’s why, in my opinion, they currently can’t even compete on the same global stage as some of their formerly “lower” counterparts. Quite a few former balkanised economies doing well right now and most of them are geographically closer to Russia.
@B3Band
@B3Band 17 күн бұрын
Yeah England, switch your class system to be based only on income and race like us normal people 😂
@stephj9378
@stephj9378 5 күн бұрын
Softer...
@mickimicki
@mickimicki 5 күн бұрын
At least in England, they can all afford to see a doctor… even those from "broken homes" (whatever that is supposed to mean).
@joendeo1890
@joendeo1890 Күн бұрын
​@@mickimickiafford, maybe. But from what I hear the current conservative government has pushed austerity so hard for some specialists you will be waiting years for first appointments.
@redhot663
@redhot663 10 күн бұрын
The intriguing thing to me is that the poorest person in the UK can go and live in Nigeria right now and immediately be rich. You'd instantly be part of the upper class, live in a mansion because nigerian currency is peanuts compared to the pound, get a top job in the government beause you have mandatory western education and chill with the country's elite because your british accent makes you automatically be seen as elite. But we all just stay where we are and stay poor. £1 is equivalent to around N2000 right now.
@redhot663
@redhot663 10 күн бұрын
And its also crazy because many of the immigrants that make up the poorest sectors of UK society came from the upper class in their home countries. I know a lady whose parents were Nigerian royalty before they emigrated to UK. They spent the rest of their lives living in a Croydon council estate.
@stevencooper4422
@stevencooper4422 2 күн бұрын
The issue of course being the fact you moved quite far away from your family back in England if you settled in Nigeria, and also the aspect of safety (being white in such a country would make you a target for kidnapping) should be the primary reason why not too many Englishmen move there.
@magules13
@magules13 22 күн бұрын
Charles Dance literally changed his lower class accent to an upper class one with a dialect coach when he went into acting. I watched him having lunch with his brother on Finding Your Roots and they sound completely different.
@rjflores438
@rjflores438 25 күн бұрын
I grew up in both Manchester and London as a kid, on a council estate in South West London and a coucil estate in South Manchester, and I also lived in both cities as an adult as well, although I now live in North Yorkshire in a quiet rural area but I regularly visit London, and when I did last week, and especially when I visited areas like Chelsea, Richmond, Kew, Hampstead and St Johns Wood, there was just this horrible feeling inside me that I just didnt belong, despite the fact I got a degree and am an intelligent and decently dressed guy who has travelled, it always felt to me that I just dont have the social, economic and cultural capital or the accent of these people. Even sitting having a coffee in some of those areas made me feel even more of an outsider, as if I would be told to move away for the upper middle class patrons who deserve a seat and not me. Tje worst thing is that you feel ignored in these areas, I would prefer to be explicitly told I dont belong more than just feeling like I dont exist.
@manifestingcocreator3221
@manifestingcocreator3221 25 күн бұрын
They're snobs. And you're not. They have always looked down on everyone else
@HomerIncognito
@HomerIncognito 25 күн бұрын
I'm from Central Europe and I grew up in a somewhat rural area in a working class family. I got a degree and now I have a relatively good job. And I also feel the same way, while I can pass for middle class, I still identify with the working class more. I even prefer the company of my childhood friends, most of whom are much closer to the working class than I.
@hlc5410
@hlc5410 25 күн бұрын
Fuck 'em. Get yer sen in pub and forget about it. The prices are gash and the beer's piss down South anyway, lad.
@nascarcricketer4702
@nascarcricketer4702 25 күн бұрын
Broski u live in Merton council when u were london
@rjflores438
@rjflores438 25 күн бұрын
@@nascarcricketer4702 I lived in Wandsworth for part of my youth.
@janethammond5925
@janethammond5925 24 күн бұрын
I remember being fascinated learning about the british class system in school (I'm from New Zealand) and seeing it played out on programmes such as Upstairs Downstairs. I was especially fascinated by the difference between upper middle class and lower middle class, and the attempts of those groups to climb the social ladder. I do remember Billy Connolly once saying that the aristocracy and working class get along ok as neither has any need to prove themselves...they are what they are. He said it was the middle class with their desire for upward mobility who were despised by both. Then again, in the words of Edmund Blackadder...." Toffs at the top, plebs at the bottom and me in the middle making pots of money out of both of them". Or words to that effect. 😊
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 24 күн бұрын
The most often referenced example of this by most British people is Hyacinth Bucket from Keeping up Appearances. She pronounces her last name as "bouquet" and puts on a posh accent to appear better than everyone else.
@janethammond5925
@janethammond5925 24 күн бұрын
@@TalesOfWar Yes I loved that series! Her embarassment of her working class roots was perfectly captured....love that her sisters and Onslow always managed to bring her maximum embarassment though 😊
@MozzieMutant
@MozzieMutant 23 күн бұрын
This was basically the premise of saltburn
@sarahquill7423
@sarahquill7423 23 күн бұрын
The British system has had a huge impact on our society as you'd expect, and while we don't really acknowledge it as much, I'd say Ao/NZ absolutely has the same nonsensical class system. You can be on the dole and still considered middle class just becausethats how you were raised, or be a homeowner but still considered practically an untouchable because you earn your living via sex work. Look at differently those two people would be treated by the justice system too, just as a couple of examples.
@janethammond5925
@janethammond5925 22 күн бұрын
@@sarahquill7423 Yes I think we have remnants of the class system here, perhaps more in NZ than Australia? But people are often put into pigeonholes based on what their parents did, or how they were brought up. But it doesn't seem to matter quite as much over here...perhaps we have a more relaxed version of snobbery! 😊
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs 25 күн бұрын
Speaking of class & power, here's the key take away: power isnt something you have, it's something that's given, and while the working class possess the most power, they've given it all away.... effectively for free, for nothing. Actually not quite for nothing. They gave away their power in return for spite.... and unsurprisingly, to use towards each other.
@AutismIsUnstoppable
@AutismIsUnstoppable 24 күн бұрын
True power comes from the barrel of a gun.
@OpenlyBritish
@OpenlyBritish 24 күн бұрын
True power comes from IQ above 100. You're lost in life with sub 100.
@chrisdonish
@chrisdonish 24 күн бұрын
​@AutismIsUnstoppable true power comes from the ability to lead people, what good is a gun if you have no one to use it?
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs
@sunalwaysshinesonTVs 24 күн бұрын
@@chrisdonish NVM. Dude doesnt understand the concept. Force comes from the barrel of a gun, but these importance nuances wont register with "Autism is Unstoppable"...
@AutismIsUnstoppable
@AutismIsUnstoppable 24 күн бұрын
@@chrisdonish Worked out pretty well for the guy who said it first.
@camaderrygoat1314
@camaderrygoat1314 24 күн бұрын
I have to say, as an Irish lad, I hate when people say oh the English this the English that... Most of those 'English' people give out about are actually Norman, not even the same race as the English... The Norman's were boss all over the place, and if you dig, you'll see that many top players are indeed decended from the Norman's... Class is really a racial thing, in the case of England that's forgotten but it's almost always a racial thing..
@matthewcoombs3282
@matthewcoombs3282 23 күн бұрын
The names of the major aristocratic families are Anglicised French Norman names. These families still own huge areas of England. The Grosvenors, Cadogans, Beaufort, Howard's, Boelyns and Mercy's.
@liamchamba8114
@liamchamba8114 23 күн бұрын
Ethnic*
@KolyaNickD
@KolyaNickD 22 күн бұрын
That is a very accurate observation. I live in the west country near to the famous private schools Sherborne Boys and Sherborne Girls - seeing the kids walking around town you can clearly see that the upper middle to upper class are a different ethnicity from the local Anglo-Saxon working class.
@user-hl6uj1qh8s
@user-hl6uj1qh8s 22 күн бұрын
This is an argument That I have put forward for quite some time, I am a working class English man, my family has been exploited by the ruling classes for as long back in history as I am able to research. Two were transported as convicts to America for poaching. One was pressed into the Royal navy in the Napoleonic wars. I finished my schooling at the age of sixteen with no option of taking it further, not through lack of ability but through lack of opportunity, so I started my adult life as one of Thatchers unemployed and its been a struggle ever since.
@evm6177
@evm6177 21 күн бұрын
Yes feels racial indeed! And considerably even more today in the UK, as it is for the world at large dare I say. 😒
@Arjibi
@Arjibi 25 күн бұрын
People complained about Indian caste system because religion while the British being secular still not give up their class system
@flowerpower8722
@flowerpower8722 24 күн бұрын
So religion makes it okay then? I thought the world's religions claim to be all about peace, love and everyone equally being God's children. Let's face it, all humanity sucks equally.
@someoneelsethatisirrelevan1769
@someoneelsethatisirrelevan1769 24 күн бұрын
​​@@flowerpower8722 that highly depends on who you ask. Christianity, Islam, Judaism? They don't care about your class, you're the same in front of God's eyes. Hinduism on the other hand, it's a little hard to explain since I'm not an expert of it, but Indian society do has caste system and it still persist in this age. And what's sad is that the government didn't care about it either
@maxcritchley619
@maxcritchley619 21 күн бұрын
Britain isn't secular. The King is literally the head of the Church and Bishops have seats in the house of lords.
@pinesandtraplines
@pinesandtraplines 21 күн бұрын
​@someoneelsethatisirrelevan1769 I might be wrong, but the religious aspect of the caste system in India comes from karma. The idea is that you would be reincarnated into a higher caste if your karma was good or something like that.
@berkesinanyetkin5722
@berkesinanyetkin5722 23 күн бұрын
My dad studied in England for a brief while when he was young. I never quite got why he believes in some stuff regarding "the levels of people" he does throughout my life, we're an educated but definitely not wealthy family and where he was born they didn't even have electricity until he was in his early teens. The chain of education if you can call it that started with my grandpa and his brothers, they were from a rather neglected village in a rather neglected city in Anatolia and together they all supported each other through school and all became teachers, judges and prosecutors. Money doesn't run in the blood but he still holds some of these beliefs especially those from the middle class you've mentioned in the video. Crazy how 2-3 years in a foreign nation can affect you. Thanks for finally enabling me to understand some of his views.
@stevencooper4422
@stevencooper4422 2 күн бұрын
At least that kind of family mindset helps you to avoid "slumming it" by having the confidence to at least make ends meet. Sometimes the worst thing to happen to poor people is the mindset that things can never change for themselves, whether real or not.
@berkesinanyetkin5722
@berkesinanyetkin5722 2 күн бұрын
​@@stevencooper4422 I guess so. After commenting that paragraph I dove deeper into the topic, apparently the belief of being born a minimum wage worker and dying that way is quite popular amongst the working class.
@alistairmonaghan6515
@alistairmonaghan6515 24 күн бұрын
The amount of oldies that still buy the Daily Mail, queuing up and complaining about waiting hours in the NHS says a lot about our current society.
@scallamander4899
@scallamander4899 17 күн бұрын
How we tolerate and make light of a class system in this country is beyond me. Someone is basically denied or given a whole host of opportunities based on who their parents are. If it was based on race or gender or something else we'd be up in arms, but somehow it's okay to do it based on your accent and your family background. Amazing for a 'progressive democracy'.
@fallfountain6038
@fallfountain6038 25 күн бұрын
The start was so funny 🤣
@gunterification
@gunterification 25 күн бұрын
Vlaams belang?
@fallfountain6038
@fallfountain6038 25 күн бұрын
@@gunterification Vlaanderen weer van ons!
@gunterification
@gunterification 25 күн бұрын
@@fallfountain6038 yup maar het gaat weer moeilijk worden zoals altijd.
@albertoamazing1
@albertoamazing1 25 күн бұрын
@@gunterification Ben jij niet erg racistisch?
@fallfountain6038
@fallfountain6038 25 күн бұрын
@@gunterification Na 9 juni zal het hopelijk makkelijker worden
@pumpkinpatch5
@pumpkinpatch5 25 күн бұрын
“We didn’t decapitate any kings…” *Cough! Charles the First, *cough! Cromwell, *cough! Regardless, I loved your upload mate and love the way you presented all this. Hit the nail on the head.
@user-sc7fk5ys6x
@user-sc7fk5ys6x 24 күн бұрын
Cromwell’s proto Stalinism was way ahead of its time was it not?
@hannah60000
@hannah60000 24 күн бұрын
Some of the “facts” in this video where shaky at best! However, the video tackled the topic in an engaging and well-presented way.
@TakeMe2UrDealer
@TakeMe2UrDealer 15 күн бұрын
Didn't Cromwell die before he was dug up and his corpse decapitated?
@l.olliffe7364
@l.olliffe7364 9 күн бұрын
This should have way more up-votes!
@DACatface
@DACatface 24 күн бұрын
There are only 2 classes left in the UK: The Owner class (other people work to like their pockets) The Worker Class (you work to survive)
@stanisawzokiewski3308
@stanisawzokiewski3308 22 күн бұрын
False dichotomy fallacy. There is many social classes. There is the owner, investor, small enterpenouer, manual working, intelectual working, managerial, political and journalist classes
@smo-king6504
@smo-king6504 22 күн бұрын
​@@stanisawzokiewski3308not really, either you work for your money/living or others work for your money/living its one of those 2 and the things you listed fall under those 2 categories
@Casual93
@Casual93 22 күн бұрын
​@@stanisawzokiewski3308massive and unnecessary complications. Journalist class? Cmon.
@ikthranithul6000
@ikthranithul6000 22 күн бұрын
@@smo-king6504 That level of over simplification is so astronomically idiotic you have to be joking. Someone on Universal Credit who doesn't bother looking for a job is suddenly part of the "owner class" because they are not working for their income? really?
@stanisawzokiewski3308
@stanisawzokiewski3308 22 күн бұрын
@@Casual93 I quess information distribution and narrative creation is a bit too long. Maybe media class would be better, they arent quite celebrities but not exactly writers. I guess we could squezee them into those two depending on how much influence they have or how much work they do.
@TheFearlessArtsJon
@TheFearlessArtsJon 5 күн бұрын
I’ve lived in council flats my entire life. Went to one of the worst schools in the country, but still entered Uni I am now just finishing up my degree in Psychology, working 50+ hours a week in a mental health ward. I’ll work hard enough to make a comfortable living in future. But that’s not to say it was easy, Uni exposed me to people who weren’t always struggling and it took a while to come to terms with the fact that I will have to work harder than some to achieve the same. The working class are looked down upon as lazy when it’s frankly untrue, I know some many people from within my town that were smarter than I, could’ve done incredible things if their families didn’t experience these struggles or if the schools were better. I got lucky in so many different ways to be in the position to finish university but others aren’t and it hurts because they shouldn’t be. The country needs to do better.
@MAJ0RMEL0DY
@MAJ0RMEL0DY 25 күн бұрын
Doing a great job bud, top quality videos mate genuinely really watchable content made with passion. Top work!
@iisig
@iisig 25 күн бұрын
Britain did decapitate a king. That was a whole important part of history where parliament gained power above that of the king because he had betrayed his people.
@Derederi
@Derederi 19 сағат бұрын
Dont bring evidence and reason here. Stop taking away their hope of ascending in class. Else they might revolt. This video would be banned.
@alexanderoweka9716
@alexanderoweka9716 16 күн бұрын
At 17:17, I thought the English revolution (Redcoats vs Cavaliers) led to the beheading of Charles 1
@farleymarly2575
@farleymarly2575 25 күн бұрын
I dont have working class friends is classic nobility at its finest
@dannyfar7989
@dannyfar7989 10 күн бұрын
So if I don't have any friends I'm noble too? 'Cause I wouldn't have working class friends then.
@truthseeker8483
@truthseeker8483 7 күн бұрын
😁
@ImmersiveSportsScience
@ImmersiveSportsScience 25 күн бұрын
2:40 The unlucky aristocrats in this system were the Saxon noble families. When you look at genealogy, you find many but not all nobles will have a direct link to William conqueror. That's because they seized land off the Saxon nobles and gave it to the Norman Nobles. There were only 3 Saxon families who survived the Norman conquest. Many of them moved to the Byzantine empire where many Joined up and became Varangians, wh were the historically the Byzantine personal Viking body gaurd.
@jasonhaven7170
@jasonhaven7170 25 күн бұрын
The King descends from Alfred the Great
@Cadence733
@Cadence733 25 күн бұрын
​@@jasonhaven7170 yes but only indirectly.
@jasonhaven7170
@jasonhaven7170 25 күн бұрын
@@Cadence733 What does that mean?
@Cadence733
@Cadence733 25 күн бұрын
@@jasonhaven7170 the original post talked about how there were very few Saxon nobles left after the Norman invasion. Your post implied (correct me if I'm wrong) that this wasn't the case as King Charles descends from King Alfred the Great thus inferring to one degree or another the continuation of the Saxon nobles. I stated this is only indirectly as the original post is correct. Charles is related to Alfred by two different women who did descend more directly from Alfred from the house of Wessex marrying into the ruling houses of Scotland and Norman England thus making Charles descended from Alfred but only indirectly.
@jasonhaven7170
@jasonhaven7170 24 күн бұрын
@@Cadence733 By that logic, the King is also not related to the Stuarts or Tudors, because they had to go through 50 other people and a woman to get to the Hanovers.
@iambru_uk
@iambru_uk 25 күн бұрын
Love this channel
@BrittPearceWatches
@BrittPearceWatches 19 күн бұрын
Upper class “ew the working class don’t want to work” Upper class literally DO NOT WORK. 🤣
@georgeparsons7144
@georgeparsons7144 23 күн бұрын
Its great how you present your videos, you provide great balance to them. We don't see much of that on social media or even on TV now. Keep up the good work
@agnosticbeliever138
@agnosticbeliever138 25 күн бұрын
I'm always real impressed by your videos. Thanks for sharing.
@thecrimsondragon9744
@thecrimsondragon9744 25 күн бұрын
He’s British, innit!
@keggs73
@keggs73 23 күн бұрын
@ 8:30 The Two Ronnies skit with John Cleese is class, no pun intended 😃🤓
@mrb6938
@mrb6938 15 күн бұрын
im impressed, as a brit working class with a keen interest in topics discussed the guy gives good info, informed perspectives and doesn't push an agenda. subscribed mate well done im look for more investigative journalism and social commetary
@helenagackowska8398
@helenagackowska8398 25 күн бұрын
These videos are great. It's my birthday today and this is a fab gift! :D
@J.C.1966
@J.C.1966 25 күн бұрын
Years ago I worked as a home healthcare nurse for a couple of aristocratic houses. Beautiful old houses, with old tapestries and paintings, the finest furnishings. But everything threadbare and worn. Posh people, but no longer having money to pay painters and carpenters. I felt sorry for them.
@TalesOfWar
@TalesOfWar 24 күн бұрын
They should have pulled themselves up by the boot straps and got a job. Is what they'd say to poor working class people.
@stevieinselby
@stevieinselby 22 күн бұрын
And what had those people done about it? In most cases, nothing, they made no serious attempt to improve their situation but just expected things to fall in their lap with no effort at all.
@Hali88
@Hali88 21 күн бұрын
I wouldn't feel too sorry for them. They are asset rich, cash poor. They could sell their land and be temporarily cash rich, asset poor, but they know that in a country with a fast growing population, land is an appreciating asset. They may not benefit directly, but their descendants will.
@kitsworld
@kitsworld 21 күн бұрын
@@Hali88 Also, those houses (and the priceless historical treasures they contain) may one day return to public hands (as in the National Trust or English Heritage) - but only as long as they DON'T get sold-off. Private owners and collectors are not necessarily the best custodians. So, in a bizarre way, we should help support the asset-rich-cash-poor owners of such treasures, to preserve them for future generations.
@HarunalRashide123
@HarunalRashide123 16 күн бұрын
​@@Hali88 they could sell big estates and buy one decent detached house and a row of terraced houses at auction, rent them out, or sell them on. Buy old warehouses and use the surplus cash to develop offices, cafes, luxury apartments. They are just lazy and want a risk free life.
@Jack93885
@Jack93885 25 күн бұрын
Can always count on Jimmy for a great explanations of British culture.
@zknarc
@zknarc 21 күн бұрын
You deserve serious respect for consistantly taking on very contentious issues and doing a well balanced job of it
@baddriddimworkshop
@baddriddimworkshop 25 күн бұрын
In the western world it has became more revelant to talk about socio cultural background than social classes. Growing up in town or in the country makes a difference, growing up with books at home, etc... i think i never commented here but i love the work and topics here, i've always been fascinated in the study of different humain groups (these last years i discovered thomas sowell, if i dont agree with everything, his study of socio ethnical groups around tthe world within history makes a lot of sens imo).
@johnegan5967
@johnegan5967 25 күн бұрын
You forgot to close your parenthese
@baddriddimworkshop
@baddriddimworkshop 20 күн бұрын
@@johnegan5967 yup. sooooory. wow! 18 likes in a few days, i wouldnt have thought. But if it brings poeople to go seek about Sowell, that's cool.
@KyleHarmieson
@KyleHarmieson 25 күн бұрын
Things become a lot simpler when you look at class through the lens of a person's relation to work: If you have to work to earn a living, you are working class, no matter how much you earn, or what your accent is. If people work for YOU, or you own something that passively brings you income, and so you don't need to work, you are of the owning class.
@LiftandCoa
@LiftandCoa 24 күн бұрын
Ehmmm????????? The middle class, self employment and various other forms of not working for others makes you part of the "owning class" ahahahahhahaha, man it would be super to have such an easy world view.
@TesterAnimal1
@TesterAnimal1 24 күн бұрын
@@LiftandCoaeeehm If you sell your time for money, you are working class. So if you’re some high paid tech bro contracting to sell your skills (me), you’re fucking kidding yourself if you think you’re not working class. You’ve just been hoodwinked into thinking you’re part of their club. You’ll never get in, and they won’t give you their crumbs. That’s how the billionaire classes keep their power. They convince people like you that you’re in their club. While laughing at you.
@davsickler3978
@davsickler3978 24 күн бұрын
Disagree. Class has more to do with intellect las well like being able to talk about some bullshit book at a party. Where as the lower class will talk about football and their next trip to benidorm. Lower class people are often much easier to identify by their dress and especially accent.
@therudedog1261
@therudedog1261 24 күн бұрын
That is such a bad take, only about 150 years out of date. Marx class analysis (which this is) was a product of its time, where you had a tiny industrialist class, then a massive and fairly even working class. The middle class had barely got off the ground, and it wasn't until the post-war era that the middle class really solidified and became the major chunk of the population it is now. Using your analysis, the 1% of don't need to work are the upper class and the 99% are the working class.
@KyleHarmieson
@KyleHarmieson 24 күн бұрын
@@therudedog1261 Yes, that is exactly the truth. 99% of people are working class. Middle class doesn't exist, and never has. What we call middle class is just a slightly better paid working class.
@neeko460
@neeko460 23 күн бұрын
Fascinating video, Jimmy! Keep up the good work!
@skabbymuff111
@skabbymuff111 25 күн бұрын
Brilliant, subscribed.
@chcomes
@chcomes 25 күн бұрын
I like the turn that the channel has taken. Well documented, open, good commentary.
@frankmacintyre5191
@frankmacintyre5191 21 күн бұрын
Your class also depends on what your parents class is. So David Beckham can be a self made multi millionaire , but his father was a kitchen fitter, and his mother was a hairdresser and that and where he grew up will always make him working class .All the private jets and sports cars won't change that. But his kids will be middle class, and his grand kids who knows ? Grace Kelly became princess Grace of Monaco, and nobody's calling her kids working class oiks .
@theunwantedcritic
@theunwantedcritic 3 күн бұрын
African-American guy here in his 60s. The class division you described in the UK is hereditary but if you think about it the class division in the United States is also hereditary. It’s by race or lease what you appear to be. The rise of conservatism in Europe, leading towards, nationalism and kind of neo. Fascism is exactly what we’ve got here in the United States now. I’m old enough to remember Margaret thatcher and Ronald Reagan. Their economic policies have made things much worse on both sides of the pond, and for the most part, the politicians have been following Their programs/schemes for the last 40 years or so. Biden he’s trying to pull the United States away from that into something new but he’s going at a snails pace because he’s getting pushback from the Republicans. Trump is like Marie Le Pen or Viktor, Orban or Bolsonaro, and then to some extent like Boris Johnson. He wants to continue the old policies, but make it appear that he’s doing something new and exciting. There’s a few things that you said that I disagree with. The under class is not where crime comes from. The crime is coming from the upper class. Watching King Charles is coronation and the funeral for his mother, the lake queen, I can only imagine how much money was spent on all of that at the same time UK citizens can’t get to healthcare they need and have meters in their flats which will give them a few hours of heat as long as they keep putting money in the slot. That’s the real crime.
@EpicCBgamerOfficial
@EpicCBgamerOfficial 25 күн бұрын
Brilliant. Thank you for your insight.
@user-gv6kd9sv6j
@user-gv6kd9sv6j 24 күн бұрын
You seem to suggest that Sunak got power through hard work. What I think happened was high expectations from his parents and from his educational environment. You’re the odd one out if you don’t get into power if you’re in those circles. He just wanted to please his parents and peers. No-one who genuinely loves and cares for themselves would choose that path. In the school that I went to, in my year of ~100 I was one of ~5 people to go to uni. Did I work hard? Not really, I just didn’t have any friends so there was nothing else to do but study. And, being an immigrant, I had to work extra hard to meet the expectations my mum had placed on me.
@TheHound402
@TheHound402 24 күн бұрын
There is something so uniquely humorous about a left-of-center person complaining about government debt, hardships of the middle class, and a growing professional welfare recipient. Mate, your politics of spending, regulation, and especially immigration from Muslim nations is why that happened.
@matthewbanton7077
@matthewbanton7077 18 күн бұрын
oh this should be good. prove it. immigration is NOTHING to do with the actual, real issues this country has. spending? god knows we need a hell of a lot more of that, look what good 14 years of cuts have done us. there's something so humorous about anyone right-of-center thinking that they're correct about anything. they literally never have been.
@habengurung8428
@habengurung8428 23 күн бұрын
Amazing video, very insightful. First video ive watched on class that is not only well explained and informative, but entertaining too.
@jamesfairmind2247
@jamesfairmind2247 22 күн бұрын
Excellent video, amusing and informative!
@XX-ri1me
@XX-ri1me 25 күн бұрын
When everything is lobbied away, it has to be regulated back again. A good thing is that democracy still exists, but the problem is to find very capable people that care about others. If you have the skills then it is easier to make money in the corporate world then to work in politics and be exposed to public scrutiny. It is quite a thankless job.
@Jo-sd3ch
@Jo-sd3ch 24 күн бұрын
Another great one Jimmy. Just one thing: These days there is a separation of INCOME CLASS & SOCIAL CLASS. Although there used to be an intersection, these days its kinda important to distinguish
@B3Band
@B3Band 17 күн бұрын
Good thing he just made a video about it.
@user-nb4ex5zk3w
@user-nb4ex5zk3w 9 күн бұрын
Someone who went to an upper class school told me she has no friends. Says the one's she likes can't be her friend....because she has no money.... it's just money talking.
@mohammedmajali6569
@mohammedmajali6569 22 күн бұрын
Top shelf content. Subscribed.
@MrGold-lo6vc
@MrGold-lo6vc 25 күн бұрын
The physiognomy of the thumbnail is so real. AI knows.
@The81marley81
@The81marley81 25 күн бұрын
just got on to your videos and after watching a couple im hooked. dont suppose you where free running in south bank about 11 years ago :D
@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 25 күн бұрын
I most certainly would have been haha
@The81marley81
@The81marley81 25 күн бұрын
@@JimmyTheGiant I might have actually known you :D used to go down there ever weekend, was a long time ago though so maybe not either way your smashing it !!
@FJames
@FJames 21 күн бұрын
Some excellent points raised, very balanced and approached with thought. Brilliant video mate 👏
@JoefishJ
@JoefishJ 7 күн бұрын
Great doc again brother 👊
@kapiushonkapiushon46
@kapiushonkapiushon46 25 күн бұрын
jimmy england good lecture
@hyderhathaf3979
@hyderhathaf3979 25 күн бұрын
William the gangster took his feudalist playbook right out of warhammer 40k.
@inerlotechnologies4908
@inerlotechnologies4908 21 күн бұрын
In the grim darkness of the 41st millennium, someone still speaks French.
@darger3
@darger3 24 күн бұрын
Your bits have become very mature. Well done on the evolution.
@MedvedChe
@MedvedChe Күн бұрын
"Britain never had some bloody revolution we didn't decapitate any kings..." - Charles I just start to spinning in his grave after this.
@Natez-vw4kd
@Natez-vw4kd 25 күн бұрын
I think you missed a step. King Charles I? House of Stuart? Beheaded in 1649? Ring anything at all? Maybe Oliver Cromwell?
@mrmug4000
@mrmug4000 25 күн бұрын
‘We didnt decapitate any kings’ upset me more than it should have
@nukelertoonz8418
@nukelertoonz8418 25 күн бұрын
I thought it would be interesting to go over how they brought back the royalty showing maybe deeper fears within British society of not having this class system that remains ingrained to this day
@mrmug4000
@mrmug4000 25 күн бұрын
@@nukelertoonz8418 it was mostly political how they brought back the royalty, done by aristocrats in the house of lords who had been kicked out of parliament by the army in prides purge the average person was mostly indifferent everything they jsut wanted the wars to be over and restoration of the monarchy was sold to them by the aristocracy
@nukelertoonz8418
@nukelertoonz8418 25 күн бұрын
@@mrmug4000 Yes but there was a movement to include more of the lower classes in the wars from the roundheads’ side. Especially with the development of the New Model Army. Also, the rise of the ‘merchant class’ was after this period, during the interregnum as that’s when Cromwell mostly started expanding to the Caribbeans and passing laws like the Navigation Act (although Elizabeth kinda started it beforehand im pretty sure). So my point is that it’s all linked together; this point I feel might’ve started to change things?
@Natez-vw4kd
@Natez-vw4kd 25 күн бұрын
@@mrmug4000 To be brutally honest, if you're making a video about British history and talk about the monarchy and are completely unaware of this fact of it.. You probably shouldn't be making videos about it as you don't know WTF you're talking about. Because from this moment on, the rest of the video was completely wasted on me as I spent the rest of it picking my jaw up off the floor.
@nukelertoonz8418
@nukelertoonz8418 25 күн бұрын
17:29 What about the execution of King Charles I?
@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 25 күн бұрын
shit, cheers for info!
@nukelertoonz8418
@nukelertoonz8418 25 күн бұрын
@@JimmyTheGiant Nah its all good man (the English Civil war was in large a parliamentary war against the monarchy to establish an English Commonwealth but what’s really interesting is in under 10 years the Brits gave up on that idea and reinstated the ExKing’s banished son (Charles II)) Anyways the video was amazing, really informative and entertaining I’m definitely recommending it to my mates. Just some advice maybe look into cutting down the amount of cuts to different medias especially if it’s not representing anything new? (but reflect on it depending on others’ feedback ig). Also I’d love more specific references like you went over the peasants’ revolt but not directly so that’s another thing. All in all, I’m going to watch a few more of your videos tonight
@Oseiwe
@Oseiwe 24 күн бұрын
This has been a very useful and informative video for me. Also had several laughs. Thank you very much
@StallionStudios1234
@StallionStudios1234 23 күн бұрын
Nice Channel Jimmy, watched a few of your videos and subscribed. I love learning about British history and culture. I have read tones of history books on Britain. You have a bit of that British humor which is awesome. I like British humour. Monty Python was the funniest thing in the 70s. Cheers from Toronto!
@moisesamaya90
@moisesamaya90 25 күн бұрын
Squarespace maintaining jimmy social class status 🎉
@miguelvales5125
@miguelvales5125 16 күн бұрын
The british did kill one of their own Kings. You should check your History books. That said, the rest of the video is good.
@captainjumptoast
@captainjumptoast 21 күн бұрын
I hadn't seen one of your videos recommended in an extreme minute, from back when you were doing free running stuff. Great to see that your charisma and editing chops work no matter the genre!
@Sam_Stanton
@Sam_Stanton 22 күн бұрын
This video was fantastic! Well put together too
@kayjami1996
@kayjami1996 24 күн бұрын
My only disappointment Cannot, I repeat, cannot talk about how the merchants and middle class emerged without (at the very least) touching on the plunder of other countries i.e. colonialism. Before Capitalism there was Mercantilism.
@Derederi
@Derederi 19 сағат бұрын
Exactly. As if merchants were holy and saint, rather than becoming rich on the spoils of war and the slavery of colonialism.
@TheFANROCKER
@TheFANROCKER Күн бұрын
Fucking hell, how many historical facts can one person get wrong?
@Derederi
@Derederi 19 сағат бұрын
He even got the conclusion wrong. Sunak the british example. You know he was an agent of the government when he showed Sunak and how self made and succesful he is. It is a syndicate, the media is there to prevent you from organizing a revolution.
@FredPilcher
@FredPilcher 24 күн бұрын
Vary good exposition of the British class system. Thanks. That bloke at 23:30 nailed it.
@TNTkiwi
@TNTkiwi 24 күн бұрын
I have to say Jimmy, I can see that you put a lot of time and effort into your video's. Your content is qualitatively increasing i.m.o. and starting to grow on me. Good job dude.
@jeffodabear
@jeffodabear 25 күн бұрын
In my opinion, as a middle class Canadian, the difference between new and old money is if people know how to be smart and have class with their wealth, it's more of an attitude thing than it is a legacy thing. What's the point of getting rich if you aren't teaching your kids and descendants manners, class and hard work. That's no way to keep a fortune. (From some one with no fortune)
@thereallotharmatthae
@thereallotharmatthae 23 күн бұрын
Amazing video!
@coinbowl
@coinbowl 23 күн бұрын
Old money vs new money appears in fashion
@13thcentury
@13thcentury 25 күн бұрын
Lord of Luton? Well, you could argue it was Robert of Gloucester... he pretty much built the church and castle during the Anarchy. Luton is a pretty old 6th century town. Whether or not Gloucester became lord? I dont know. What i do know is that you has some connections to griffins... as Faulkes de Breaute was given the town by king john. He also ran Vauxhall.
@david-cf6io
@david-cf6io 25 күн бұрын
shut up
@13thcentury
@13thcentury 25 күн бұрын
And it got worse with the medieval laws... as Edward 3 passed laws that dictated as to whom could wear what clothing. Pretty much had a class divided uniform.
@mikehamilton367
@mikehamilton367 24 күн бұрын
Absolutely excellent video....i feel this is an area which you can explore more as there are a lot of aspects you can go into further.
@theoteddy9665
@theoteddy9665 23 күн бұрын
maaaate, that was awesome, funny and packed info, I thoroughly enjoyed this video.. wow🙋🇨🇿❤️
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