THE GREAT CITRUS FAIL! How Florida Growers Lost Their Famous Fruit

[@tiki_t]

I found an old article from the 1800's talking about the benefit of planting mustard in orange orchards to bring in the predatory wasp that eats the pests that cause this. It's not a new problem. If you search up old photos, you'll actually see a lot of mustard and flowers around citrus orchards. Now with orchards being so "tidy" the problem has taken over again.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Tanja F this very interesting information! Thanks for sharing. The local extension office is now offering a wasp to help combat them too. Yeah it’s sad how citrus today is grown in a sandy roundup ridden soils... no wonder they are having problems!

[@nancyfahey7518]

I like that idea, I'm growing wild mustard on the other side of my yard and have loads of seeds.

[@dlhvac1]

Tanja F the gene they spliced with a virus into the GMOS they are growing was from mustard what variety do you know

[@tylerwerrin41]

Do you have the article? That's very interesting. Looking for ways to protect my citrus.

[@thanhcanglong1986]

I'm a farmer in Vietnam. I grow pomelos and a kind of sweet orange in the south west of VN. I found that pomelos get less attack from HLB(greening disease) and a very important thing to grow strong citrus is to take the sources trees from farm that has been attacked by HLB. This way I chose a strong tree from the attacked farm and get the sources for the baby trees. I think these trees have antibody to keep them strong.

[@oftin_wong]

Yes pomelo is one of the original citrus ancestor ...so very very hardy

[@Pepesplants]

Intercropping with Guava trees and also removing Orange Jasmine trees will go a long way to keep Psyllids away from your trees. In Asia this practice was found to be a good strategy. Other Psyllid eradication methods under study are predatory wasps and the introduction of a tree friendly bacterium that will attack the HLB bacterium. Your guests have also offered other strategies in the comments. Thanks for the great videos. Thumbs up and subscribed.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Pepe's Fruit Trees thanks for sharing! That bacterium sounds pretty interesting. They are starting to give out the wasps here in FL.

[@929bn]

How can we introduce this friendly bacterium? Pepe, are you still local in Hollywood, do you know where I can get it?

[@929bn]

What else besides mustards attracts these wasps? What variety of mustards?

[@stevevarga2149]

Pete, Thank you for this information. I too love citrus and miss what I grew up on here in Miami. I guess it was in the 90’s when citrus was pretty much so eradicated because of the chancre (sp). Several years ago I was able to purchase a Persian lime tree from a nursery here. I had no idea that a new culprit was involved. Yes we need to put our heads together and figure out a natural way of getting this wonderful treasure back into our gardens

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Hey Steve! Luckily since this video we have lots of new interesting research showing oak oils help to treat, protect and reverse the greening. I’ll be making an update video here soon.

[@thomasbarlow4223]

I live in fort Myers Florida which is directly across from Miami on the other coast. I've noticed All the orange groves I used to drive past as a child now looks like a graveyard. It amazes me how humans can be so smart yet we completely ignore things such as this small focusing on other nonsense.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Hey guys I just want to clarify I noticed I fumbled my words a little. The Asian Citrus Psyllid transmits the greening bacterium. Once affected that tree can no longer take up nutrients from the roots. This could also be combated by foliar feeding the trees with nutrients.

[@rajivs4528]

Pete Kanaris GreenDreamsFL Once affected you have to remove all those leaves. After that we need to use SPINOSAD (ORGANIC INSECTICIDE ) as a foliar spray as per recommended levels and schedule....it will do the trick... In India this is so common along with leaf miner...

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Rajiv S very interesting. I've never heard of this method. Thanks for sharing

[@No-xh2cs]

Actually you have to use an antibiotic. What he is talking about is combating leaf miner which will be killed by the spinosyn. But the bacteria isn't affected by the spinosyn. They have found that you can also heat treat your tree to kill the bacteria to delay the demise. My keylime I planted last year got both greening and canker in south florida sadly. I was experimenting and put some penicillin and it started growing again. The best way to prevent it is to use a systemic insecticide to prevention the psyllid from biting and spraying with copper to prevent the canker.

[@emiliovanrell3571]

Pete Kanaris GreenDreamsFL I would suggest that you follow that pattern that you’re seeing of healthy citrus being an understory fruit tree, and maybe throw in different varieties and plants started from seedlings, to add some resiliency through diversity and I am sure you will find the best solution to the problem, or at least get closer to treating the problem and not the symptoms. I don’t remember well if it was in one of Fukuoka’s or in one of Ernst Gotsch’s books about successional planting, but I think one of them if not both, talks about how they see that citrus should be set and will be healthier in an understory situation. Wanted to recommend you this video if you haven’t seen it yet, about Ernest Gotsh from Brazil and the agroforestry systems he is developing. I think it would be of great interest for you and your projects since it is in a climate somewhat like Florida’s, with sandy soils, and some great points of view. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oabNe4ippJugZ9k Hope the best to all your work

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Dykeinator hello! Just seeing this comment. Please drop us an email if you wanna schedule an appointment. Thanks GreenDreamsfl@yahoo

[@dirtisbetterthandiamonds]

We have heritage trees growing under oaks. They have 3" thorns and most fruits are sour. Makes yummy lemonade and the cows love them! My father in law was from Spain and he always planted tobasco peppers underneath the trees. We've never had greening but the orchard 1.5 miles away has lost nearly all their trees 😩

[@rafaelramos441]

There are advances on combating HLB on many fronts: Several Australian native Citrus species have natural genetic tolerance. Oak leaf extracts have reversed the effects of HLB, perhaps natural tannins present in oaks provide anti-bacterial protection. There are massive efforts underway in Citrus research involving identifying tolerant specimens among Citrus and close relatives. The relationship between scion and rootstock is interesting, as having tolerance in either can positively affect the plant as a whole.

[@Traci_Carlson]

Oh this is sad! I have been binge watching your videos this past week and noticed there was never any citrus in any of your projects. Now I know why! I really hope they find a solution soon. I’m hoping to move to Florida in a couple years and I would love to have a few citrus trees!

[@thedomestead3546]

Great video on the monoculture. Dont be shocked if (its the ROUND UP!). MINERAL BONDING PIPE CLEANER.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

The Domestead agreed! I've never seen a groove with mulch or even weeds. They are always sugar sand and round up sprayed weeds.

[@steveschnatz790]

Thanks Pete I have a tangerine tree that is grown from seed from a tangerine tree that was grown from seed and Titusville Florida it was planted under a live oak canopy 40 years ago and I've been wondering where to plant it in my own yard now I know you're so helpful I appreciate what you're doing keep growing

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Steve Schnatz awesome! Thank you 🙏

[@yolo_burrito]

Holy sh** you’re so right. I hike a trail in Highlands county that has the best wild growing citrus. It’s in an oak hammock as well.

[@edwardyount7734]

I’ve also seen many healthy citrus trees up in pasco always under a oak tree canopy, I can think of at least 3 different sites. Keep up the good work!

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Edward Yount very cool! I just documented and filmed one of these sites in Brooksville. I posted the video last night. I’m also planting lost of seeds

[@chargermopar]

When the state was cutting down all the citrus trees here in the Miami area they missed a wild seed grown tree here. It was destroyed by hurricane Wilma. A seedling grew nearby and started producing fruit last year. I have noticed that it is mixed up with spanish moss and seems to be really healthy. The fruit is delicious but loaded with seeds. I have been planting those seeds and am curious what it will produce next. The wild trees I see always have a lot more thorns than the store bought ones. There are no oak trees here but gumbo limbo, poisonwood and hoop vine. It is a messy area that has never been fertilized and has had wood chip compost for decades. I do trim neighboring plants and remove the spanish moss at times to allow sun to hit the wild citrus tree and help it flower.

[@hart796]

Great heart felt video Pete!!!!

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Thanks Roger!

[@mnp6398]

Funny...i have a wild lemon growing underneath our oak. We just probagated 1 month ago and we bought 2 small lime and lemon and planted it under oak. Thanks firvthe tip!

[@OldesouthFarm]

It breaks my heart how quickly the greening wiped out the Florida Citrus. I hope the bug passes and the trees can come back. Our severe cold up here in Alabama this winter has killed all my citrus and even that Mutant Lemon Tree my neighbor has looks pretty poor. It has dropped all its fruit and a lot of the leaves have turned brown from the 14-15 degree weather. It is a mature tree and will see how it does. I am done with citrus for a bit (Lost about $375 worth of trees) and do not want to have a heated green house. Will go with the flow and mother nature really kicked us this winter...

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Oldesouth Farm I fell your pain! We had some bad losses here last winter. I grew up picking and eating citrus everywhere. I posted a new video last night that gives me some hope with citrus. I’m actually planting lots of seed from the trees I found.

[@ourfloridagarden4191]

Very true. Planting under the live oats is working. Remarkable. Happy we have gotten a couple frosts here in St. Pete this year. Always helps the garden.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Our Florida Garden awesome! Thanks for sharing

[@kablevins]

I have a number of citrus trees here in northwest Pasco County that I planted about 20 years ago that froze back and then grew back from the roots and are now very big trees producing abundantly and seemingly unaffected by any problems whatsoever, except the fruit is very sour. You know, Pete, they are under a live oak canopy. I never heard of that effect until your video. I started my food forest much more recently, about seven years ago, and decided to take the risk and plant citrus (about 14 different trees on my little acre plus, many still in pots). I plan to graft some of them to the larger sour orange trees and seedlings that have come up on their own in my Carolina laurel cherry "forest" which is also under the live oak canopy. I just believe that nature finds a way to heal and protect itself, and hope that is the case with my investment. I have planted three citrus under a sycamore canopy, but after watching your video, I think I'll orient the rest under the oaks (live oak and sand live oak primarily). Thank you. Great information.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Kimberly Blevins thanks for sharing! So the new trees are doing ok? If so I'm glad to hear this.

[@kablevins]

You are welcome. So far, all the new citrus is doing great. I have a Meyer lemon I planted about 5 years ago, produced huge lemons this year. That's planted next to a huge clump of lemon grass. In the front yard, I also have three satsumas under or near the canopy of a huge ear tree and another Meyer lemon and improved Meyer lemon. These are planted close to other fruit trees (avocado, Barbados cherry, peanut butter fruit, sapodilla, guava, apple, mulberry, olive, fig...). Under the sycamore is a Mineola, Sunburst tangerine, and calamondin. I also have some citrus still in pots waiting to go in the ground: key lime, red lime, Persian lime, another Meyer lemon, and a tangerine tree. The biggest problem I have had so far is those weevils that chew up the leaves but the damage is really just cosmetic. I don't want that to get endemic since I grow plants for trade/sale and chewed-up leaves don't sell well. I've also seen leaf miner damage on the citrus leaves and some nutritional issues that are working out as the soil improves. Also, rust on my fig leaves, and something that looks like rust on some of the mulberries. I am a big believer in the value of building the immune system of the forest garden as a whole and of individual plants through nutrition. My neighborhood is rural, and no one else is growing citrus as far as I know, except one neighbor who has one lemon tree in the back. My Satsumas and the Sunburst tangerine came by mail order from Brite Leaf Citrus Nursery in Lake Panasoffkee, Florida. The rest came from WalMart. :)

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Kimberly Blevins this is great news for your area. That ear pod tree (Enterolobium cyclocarpum) is probably the best over story nitrogen fixing for our area, I really need to plant a couple.

[@kablevins]

We have always loved our ear tree. The kids grew up clambering all over it, and had many hours of fun playing on a rope swing slung over a high branch 20 or 30 feet up. My late parents had one in their subdivision front yard too, and after they bought their ranch (about 9 acres near Hudson High School) in the early 1980s, my dad and I walked all over it planting ear trees around the boundary. Now those trees are towering giants. We are considering developing that property as a forest garden too. I looked at the profile for Enterolobium cyclocarpum some time ago and determined that what we have is actually Enterolobium contortisiliquum (Vell.) Morong pacara earpod tree (USDA Plant Database: plants.usda.gov/core/profile?symbol=ENCO2) and yes it is a great upper story nitrogen-fixing tree. I can start some for you if you like. Private message me and let me know how many you want and I'll let you know when they are ready. We can trade since you live so close and have some things I am interested in. :) I'll deliver the seedlings and then "shop" at your nursery. How's that sound? ;)

[@kablevins]

Here is a link to an article about a promising scientific breakthrough on citrus greening research, published just last month: "Brazil, U.S. identify molecule to help fight citrus greening disease," José Roberto Gomes www.reuters.com/article/us-brazil-usa-orange/brazil-u-s-identify-molecule-to-help-fight-citrus-greening-disease-idUSKBN1DZ31Q

[@49testsamiam49]

does compost tea sprayed on the leaves help at all

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

49testsamiam49 we are hoping it will help on this project. It can definitely help to foliar feed the tree once affected. The real question is will it make the trees immune system so strong the Greening can't effect them. We are also looking into Korean natural farming methods to combat this.

[@johnchilds1355]

Awesome info as always Pete !!

[@siggyincr7447]

While the huge monocultures sped the spread up, HLB is capable of jumping fairly large distances. HLB arrived here in Costa Rica and is affecting the orange groves in a similar way. But the take away is that the disease passed through large regions without citrus farms, it just slowed down a bit in those areas. Even without the big farms HLB would have gotten everywhere where psyllids thrive which is pretty much everywhere oranges can grow well.

[@GM_____]

The bug you’re referring to is supposed to be a beneficial predator wasp that’s native to where that psyllid is from. There are varieties like the sugar belle orange that are supposed to be tolerant to the greening; they’re not genetically modified to the best of my knowledge. However, some people have said that they don’t taste as good as regular oranges. There was a research study being done over year ago where they found some sort of fungus or mold that was supposed to be protecting these trees and the lab that was testing it has yet to follow up on it. I want to say that it was channel 8 that had done a news story on it about a year ago. I saw the video here on KZbin.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Gia Medina thanks for sharing. Since I've made this video I've done a little more research myself on the wasp, lol I called it a bug. I'm also unsure about these new varieties that are supposed to be resistant. I have friend going to UF for her PHD in plant science and she says they are starting to be released for testing.

[@seedwolfmgo247]

Thanks talking to us about the HLB, I live in LA county and we are having a outbreak. The Agriculture deparment has been taking cutting from residence for testing. I heard from Gary at Luguna Hills Nursey; a guy here in the San Gabriel valley had cuttings from China that had the HLB in the scion.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Brandon Hubbard I'm sorry to hear! I recently heard from a friend y'all had a few cases. I'll be interested to see if this wasp helps in Florida, they are starting to give them out through the extension agents.

[@leighannamarie3992]

Thanks for linking me here! My brother referenced this video in conversation so I wanted to check it out!

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Leighanna Marie welcome to the channel! :)

[@VTECsqznN2O]

I live walking distance from the parent navel orange tree. They recently built a structure around it to protect it. I have a number of citrus trees and I noticed that they do want to be in the understory. They do so much better here in the shade. The ones I see in full sun look terrible. We haven't seen as big of an issue in California but it's terrifying to think about

[@nightflight41]

My Man. I like what you teach us. Keep it comeing. Thanks.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Thanks Ken!

[@SR-pt5lo]

Pete! Im in Jax North florida and work at a nursey, i ordered some citrus trees from a big supplier with the ISD tag still in date but ive noticed ACP and CLM still attacking the new growth. Not really sure what to do in a nursery setting because i love my pollinators. Any advice?

[@andrewbowlgarte4738]

i'm glad i found you , i am in the beginning stages of trying to find a 5- 10 acre piece of land to start a sustainable aquarium fish and food farm ,with possibilities of aquaculture , aquaponics ,and food fish, there has been a huge lack of info , and you are a big help , i will be getting my rv ready for a trip down from here in connecticut, and find a exact area , maybee i get a chance to chat with someday, im trying to get moved there before next winter to start a new chapter of my life!!!!!

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Andrew bowlgarte welcome to the channel! Good luck with that move to the sunshine today state 🌞

[@GardensGuitars]

Hey Pete, great video! I agree with you that the large monoculture practices and low diversity encouraged this problem. At this point, perhaps the best we can do is to increase biodiversity as well as breed for natural resistance to the disease. I am a plant breeder. I start a lot of citrus from seed. Obviously, from seed, the fruit qualities are unpredictable; however, planting large amounts of citrus from seed is often a good way to find natural resistance to pests/disease. I would rather have a sour fruit tree that resisted the greening than a super sweet fruit tree that was susceptible. I am in southern carolina, and while greening isn't super common here yet, it is probably only a matter of time, as southern SC is rapidly developing a more Florida like climate. We can do bananas here now. I have never heard about the protective effect of oak, but it just so happens that I start all my citrus seedlings under a huge oak tree; additionally, when I transplant them, I have put all of them under oaks. They are all thriving and I've seen no greening. I didn't know about oaks helping, I just have oaks in my yard lol. Always love your videos Pete! hit me up with any ag sci questions you ever have

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Primitive Organic Garden very cool stuff! My apologies for the delayed response, just seeing lots of these comments. I just posted a new video last night, with a bunch of unaffected citrus I found just north of me. I’m being told that planted from seed citrus is fairly true? I’ve also been told they can fruit in 3 to 4 years? I’ve selected the sweetest biggest fruits and I’m planting the seeds. Most of these trees had very sweet fruit. Check out the video

[@marciaspanick6648]

Hey Pete, thank youuuu!!!! I am so happy I ran into this video....I’m curious since the white sapote is in the citrus family....is that included in the issue here inFL???

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

No problem! Yes, but I haven’t seen it actually affected.

[@marciaspanick6648]

@@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL that’s great to hear. My tree could be atleast 20-23 yr old & it’s finally bearing fruit, somewhat scarcely but tremendously better than it ever has! It’s a very beautiful tree & to finally be able to enjoy the fruit the last couple of years has been epic. Thank you for sharing your wisdom.

[@helen_grace_cosplay]

Great video as usual! Quick question: I installed a surinam cherry bush last summer and it is still growing new leaves but no flowers...when can I expect it to start flowering/fruiting?

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Helen Grace Pane thank you! It depends if it's a seedling or grafted bush? Mine all seem to fruit within a few years, right around this time.

[@gdubya6039]

You should do a frost damage video from jubilee. I'm in bradenton and am currious.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

gdubya definitely coming soon. Practically zero damage at Jubilee, the low was 36 degrees.

[@gdubya6039]

Cool. I had a little papaya damage by the srq airport. It was 31 degrees the coldest morning.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

gdubya yeah I've seen reports of 29 degrees in naples and spotty frost in homestead. Jubilee is really in a microclimate being surrounded by water like it is. My place got pretty well dusted, I'll be making a video this week.

[@dostuffwithniki6250]

im kind of late in posting here Pete, I've seen this video before, but when i came across it again I wanted to tell you my experience. I have two little lemons growing in my understory, avocado, messy palm etc. and they are thriving. I dont water, fertilize etc, I just let them go. One is growing incredibly well, the other a bit smaller but still ok I kind of let nature take over there, and everything grows better. I also have a huge spiral ginger there. I think the citrus would be ok if we integrated it with natures other things things that want to grow around it. It seems to be happy and I have no problems. I have "weeds" growing around it, its in partial shade and its happy. Like you said , basically the huge mono-cultures/orchards of only citrus killed the crops. They should hire you to fix the fields:)

[@mangomandi6451]

Just cut down an old (numerous graftings) citrus tree in the back yard. Sad it was very sick.... hopefully one day we will have a less disease and a few more citrus trees for some awesome fruit!

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

MangoMandi it's so sad to see this great crop failing. I'm we can find away around these problems.

[@Day-tm2pb]

My small contribution to biodiversity is I plant every single seed from all fruits I buy in every store, usually clump them together and let nature decide which ones to grow, then the strongest of the bunch survive and thrive, when they get big enough. I gift them or plant them wherever there is free open land that owner either don’t care or allows it. I am sure only 10 percent of all seeds I plant will make it into actual producing trees, but they will be survivor trees, and they will have fruits that will be very different from the original fruit. That way we will have variety once again. So far, I have had a lot of incredible papayas that you will never be able to find in stores, and some of the lemon and sour orange trees I started with, are already producing fruits back in Cuba and other parts for family and friends. Here in Miami many of the survivor trees are still too young to produce but are almost there. I don’t have a lot of land, but when you want and simply commit to making a hobby to grow from seed, you can do a lot for nature and offer people a chance to love plants too. At the end of the day, how many fruits do we eat in a lifetime? Could you imagine what your contribution to nature can be if only 10 percent of all those seeds become producing trees?? I am almost 20 years into trying it, and I am still pretty young. 🙏give nature a chance, plant those seeds

[@miahcrosby6810]

Haven't commented for a while but I'm still watching..Snow here in Mississippi is kicking my ass

[@elfsgarden8043]

Congrats on over 10,000!

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

elfs garden thanks!

[@edwardyount7734]

Hey Pete, love your videos and the work that you do. Not trying to seem like a know it all, but lovebugs were not a result of some type of research being done at UF that is a urban Legend! They migrated here naturally in he 1950s. No sure if i missed it, but what variety of peach trees (if any) are you planting down in Bradenton? I’ve had a prince in the ground a year and its been doing great so far. Cheers, Ed

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Edward Yount no worries I got that one wrong! I’ve been repeating that urban legend for years😝 No peaches here. They are doing great at my place this year. Florida prince and UF sun Seem to be the most productive.

[@vintagetrishgarden]

Hey Pete, great video. A guild of fejoa, strawberry guava, kaffir lime and tahitian lime works very well in my garden. My tahitian produced nearly 100kg beautiful quality last season in the high heat & very little rain we've had for couple of seasons now. If affected in future, catch some psyllids, put in boiling water, grind them up (gross I know) cool the water, then water in the soil around the tree. This worked for citrus stink bugs here-none on that tree this season- maybe they smell their own dead, maybe the tree emits immunity or something?? Law of Similars 🌸

[@49testsamiam49]

Trish a similar remedy from the biodynamic people is a process called ashing which consists of burning the pesky critters to make an application

[@shelbyhensley5534]

Love your videos,you talked about citrus and it fading out.another fruit I,ve noticed that is not as sweet and juicy as it us to be ,say 40 years ago are peaches they all seem to be dry,not dripping with juice as I remember as a kid.by the way what ever happened to The sweet Fa.striper watermelon,s I never see those any more either.sure would like to know where all the good stuff went.keep up the good work.I,m in North Central Florida close to the St John,s river.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Shelby Hensley Thank you! We are looking to have a banner year for peaches. All of our trees have set nicely. These are some of the most delicious peaches have ever tasted in my life! Now if you’re talking store but they are typically terrible

[@Erewhon2024]

Doesn't live oak cast too much shade for Citrus (& just about anything else except some gingers)? In N. FL, it forms a very wide spreading (1/20th acre) and dense evergreen canopy.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Erik Johnson actually some things really thrive in the canopy for us. We find carambola even does better with a little shade, and young avocados seem to do much better in the canopy. Like I said I've seen some beautiful unaffected citrus in the canopy of oaks covered with fruit.

[@thedomestead3546]

how much Roundup do they apply to these Citrus Groves, what's the soil content around up parts per million?

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

The Domestead it's a mess! Typically sugar sand waste land...

[@TOMMYSURIA]

How the plants holding from last night's freeze?😟

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Hulagu Kahn it looks like a napalm hit this place! I'll be filming a video tomorrow.

[@TOMMYSURIA]

Pete Kanaris GreenDreamsFL ,😨 me too, all my peppers, cuban oregano, stevia, and culantro are all brown now. Time for some new plants...

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Hulagu Kahn I feel your pain.

[@combatmako]

Thx Pete! 👍👍

[@combatmako]

I have a couple of small life oaks that I’ll mice in with some of the few citrus I have left... \X//‘s. Fingers crossed ✌️❤️😁

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Chris Dutton let me know how that worked out! 👊

[@lorebrown5307]

Just brainstorming here but I know grapefruit seed extract is used in natural health products as an antibiotic , anti bacterial anti fungal application, and works well . I wonder if you experimented with leaving citrus pulp ,seeds, and rinds, perhaps byproduct of juice production waste underneath the citrus trees as a mulch layer, if that would help correct the problem? It might be worth a try.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Lore Brown Sounds like an experiment worth trying! Thanks for sharing. Unfortunately there are lots of cures for the greening In the industry doesn’t seem to care. Some of the latest reports show the heavy use of round up being a major cause of the problem

[@Andrew-or4jg]

Does the citrus tree need to be planted in the ground under the live oak for this to work or can it be in a pot? Also will this work if a tree has already been infected? Thanks!

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

I’m not sure but this is what we’re suggesting with planting in the understory. I’d say an infected tree needs to be foliar fed. This are still the beginning stages of this observation.

[@andrewbowlgarte4738]

Thanks!!!!

[@nancyfahey7518]

I have a beautiful navel orange that was dying. Tried different things for several years and finally gave up. Took off all branches (burnt them all) waiting for it to die and the wild garden took over. Its surrounded with elderberry, 6' tall and cranberry hibiscus. And here's the dang orange tree growing back with perfect leaves and stems up thru the top of all the plants. I'll check out the fruit next year and see what happens.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Very cool Nancy!! There’s lots of new research showing the benefits of oak oils to help prevent Citrus greeting. I just went to a talk with the University of Florida.

[@miahcrosby6810]

Hey dude !!! Keep on keeping on

[@mjf719]

We had to remove our citrus trees because they never produced and began exhibiting signs of citrus greening. I still have to remove a kumquat that has the greening; it is our last one. We do have a bitter orange which produces massive amounts of fruit which does not seem to be affected by the citrus greening. Not sure why that is. We are going to remove that as well because it is just not palatable.

[@c.j.rogers2422]

Don't remove that sour orange, it may be resistant! Try grafting on some (or many) desirable varieties and see if that works. BTW, that sour orange is great for cooking, it's an excellent marinade.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Melissa Varone it’s a sad state with the citrus problem! You should check out my latest video. That sour orange might be the key...

[@Thaatgirrrrlllll234]

Have to grow them under oak and maple. Also have to start feeding the Florida soil everywhere. Instead of grass that does nothing we need natives everywhere... If we help Florida get to how it used to be naturally . The plants would stop fighting us so much...

[@travisrobinsonj]

This channel is fuckin winning

[@c.j.rogers2422]

Come on, Pete! As a couple others have pointed out, love bugs are certainly NOT the result of an experiment gone awry! They did indeed migrate north from Central America, due to the advent of the highway system. They simply arrived by truck. Though I did tell a transplant friend of mine years ago that UF did invent them as a Yankee deterrent! I had him going for some time!

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

C.J. Rogers yankee deterrent😂❤️

[@slowedhits2506]

I love all citrus.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Slowed Hits me too! This greening problem makes me sad 😞

[@slowedhits2506]

@@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL Good luck resolving that issue man.

[@SulcataGrove]

I miss eating Satsumas every year. Hope the trees do well at Jubilee. So many diseases and insects arrive in FL from illegally imported fruit/seeds/and plant material. A bit concerned bunchy top banana virus will arrive due to people buying bananas from Asia off eBay and from Hawaii. We already have the aphid here, but not the disease - sort of the opposite of HLB where we had the disease in FL before the psyllid arrived.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Sulcata Grove me too! It's so sad to see all these old trees dying off. I remember when I was a kid it was citrus canker, it always seemed to be some pest or disease. That scares the crap out of me with the bananas, no lack of them at Jubilee either.

[@undercovergardener5632]

Im in Arizona and it seems our citrus is being affected too. They look like they die one branch at a time. On top of that they are cutting down the old citrus groves across the state and buildng houses :(

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Undercover Gardener i’ve heard you all have the greening. Some claim the extreme heat is keeping it in check. So it’s dying on broad scale there also?

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Undercover Gardener I didn’t realize Arizona had large citrus plantings.

[@HFTLMate]

cool video bro

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

HF TL thanks dude! 👊

[@geraldfranz9085]

Brother Pete, what's growing on ?!?!? Funny how life works, as I'm watching this video, I'm prepping some orange seeds for germination, LOL !!! My son bought a house recently here in Ocala and there is an orange tree growing on the side of his house which has the sweetest oranges I have ever tasted !!! So what do I do ? Plant the seeds !!! Yas sir !!! As always, thanks for the awesome information, the high quality videos, and the passion to do what you do. God bless you and your family and again thanks for all you do, you rock brother !!!

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Gerald Franz Hey brother! Very cool. We need lots of experiments with citrus here in Florida. I found some really healthy unaffected citrus in the understory just north of me, I Posted the video last night.

[@TheUncannykodiak]

Pete Kanaris GreenDreamsFL how are these trees doing in this understory?

[@garrycole9187]

We always go for the more complex solution when there is a more simple one. When you have a complex solution, you just introduce more variables that could make the solution worse than the original problem. This is our ecosystem reacting to our climate change and yes climate change is real folks, you can ignore it or dismiss it, but that is not going to change the facts.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Very true Garry!

[@TOMMYSURIA]

Garry Cole hummmm, I wonder what causes climate change? I mean global warming...or whatever they call it now....

[@melindalancaster9648]

Is it the soldier fly that is a good predator?

[@Erewhon2024]

melinda Lancaster , (black) Soldier fly usually refers to a composting maggot (adults breed but don't eat) that many people prefer to redworms as a way of converting biomass to poultry/fish food (the maggots crawl out to pupate so are easily harvested them for stock feed). It is not predatory. If biological control is possible, it presumably would be some enemy of the psyllid from that pest's home in Asia. Black soldier flies are native.

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

melinda Lancaster no it's not a fly it's actually a wasp. The extension agents by me are starting to give them out. They should potentially eat the psyllid that carries the citrus greening.

[@thedomestead3546]

very suspicious that Roundup Works in a similar manner

[@tasneemsiddiqui1677]

The Domestead uetssuxdeyuxgdgswiizuusxuwgexuhwhhh

[@nicholasvamvakos6030]

Don't

[@oftin_wong]

It's all true what he says but also citrus is not the easiest plant in the world to manage...it's always going to take constant management. Only the ancestral citrus plants like mandarin kumquat pomelo and citron are as hardy as all fck

[@DL-tp2nr]

That’s what the gene they took at lake Alfred to gene splice

[@paulbraga4460]

monoculture would not be so bad if there was some planting of diverse cover crops in between those rows. farm owners should just completely stop using fungicides, pesticides, or any other "cides" - most of these function as chelators which grab nutrients and now the nutrient minerals are unavailable for plant uptake. tis the whole system really - complete mineral nutrients, soil health - biology in the soil. plants are life and have no business to conduct with things that end life...blessings to all

[@truthistreason4292]

the live oak protects it from geo engineering.(AKA chemtrails).

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

truth*is*treason anything is possible

[@DL-tp2nr]

Brassinolide treats greening

[@cjmaliko2848]

K

[@dlhvac1]

Treat greening with brassinolide available on amazon and eBay don’t buy the Chinese one

[@mcdaniels101]

Gmo?? Really??? It does not fix the problem.

[@cjmaliko2848]

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[@VeganChiefWarrior]

shitrus hahaha thats what they sell at supermarkets ey

[@chrise8442]

Modern fruit farming needs to be old school Another words, no concentrated tree. By a mixture of many species.....Americans claim to be Christian yet no one grows a garden, but a plantation. Grow fruits for yourself & some for the community, but don’t expect to get rich from huge acres of one crop

[@fortmyersfruitforest5214]

You are defiled by what comes out of your heart, not the manner in which you Garden...

[@kylegreen4691]

Shitrus 😂

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

kyle Green 😬

[@MrImPrEzivE]

Last I read there were some University Students in Iran or some place over there trying to find a predator that`ll eat those darn things. Hope they figure something out.. what`s Florida without citrus!!

[@PeteKanarisGreenDreamsFL]

Sean Kandel Yes they’ve released a wasp here in Florida, But it hasn’t fixed the problem yet. Pretty sad story