The Great Exodus: 5 Rational Reasons Men Are Walking Away From Dating

[@melonytoni9016]

if 80% of men would walk away from dating I think most women wouldnt even notice it.

[@beezelsub]

Wrong. They want the attention.

[@andrius799]

Wrong. @@beezelsub

[@WheatWaffles]

The bottom 80% of men*

[@hachiroku8677]

@@beezelsub I agree. They're attention seekers and love to keep simps on their shelf.

[@koralle9885]

If the top 20% men walked away, there would be countless articles, podcasts and talkshows on "loneliness epidemic" with lots of bluepilled advice.

[@jadominek7116]

We do not walk away. Lots of us just have no chance even for one date.

[@halawishes]

Not with a puppet.

[@voetbalfreak6583]

And it’s men’s fault

[@jadominek7116]

@@voetbalfreak6583 I don't feel guilty, I didn't do anything to provoke that situation.

[@Slow-Rolling]

Even if you did have a date or get married , it still wouldn’t be worth it .

[@bigneiltoo]

@@Slow-Rolling I have flocks of women coming on to me everywhere. I probably made out with 10 women this year. They are still insufferable. They just will not offer any value anymore. Your being great is a prerequisite. They want to enslave a great man.

[@jingjang2048]

Men are not walking away, men are sent away. If you have no dating options you are not walking away, you are being sent away. Most men cant get any so its like they are not in the markets in this first place.

[@WheatWaffles]

💯 There are way more women “walking away” from dating than men

[@___-xf5dj]

@@WheatWaffles no i don't work on it. no time to lose. just live and make fun all day. waiting when and who will choose me. i am the prize because i have the risks in law. i will have the problems without any help from anywhere not the from the state like women do. so i live and look when they come to show me love. and if they do i will choose the best.

[@tgheretford]

​@@WheatWaffles That seems to tally with the statistics I have seen, the evolutionary psychological theory behind women walking away and personal experience of a number of single women I know in real life compared to the men. The women have zero interest in dating men, the same is not the case the other way round.

[@JustNo8808]

​@@WheatWafflesSo let forcibly take away their life force, online attention.

[@midatlantic09]

It's a mixed bag. Yes, there are many men who women simply don't want and are being forced out of dating and relationships (probably about 40-50% of men). However, there's also another segment of men who could easily find someone and get married, but still haven't for the reasons named in the video (probably 30-40% of men). Basically, men in the top 30-40% of men could likely get into a relationship and get married if they truly wanted to.

[@rodbelding9523]

I walked away from dating because I didn't have a choice. Constant ghosting, constant rejection, I had to give up for the sake of my own sanity.

[@Donner906]

Keep the wank flannel handy.

[@GjVj]

@@Donner906 Not nice to refer to your mother like that, even if everyone else does..

[@banzaaiiiii]

Cope

[@neltins5308]

LOL, 60% single men in America while only 30% of women are single. A lot of men completely gave up even trying to chat to women.

[@Donner906]

@@neltins5308 They are called shitty incels.

[@DustinGarret]

Let me tell you a story. A friend of mine, an ugly girl, I'd say a 2/10, the other day I was talking about aesthetic values, giving myself a 4/10, she exclaimed "well if you're a 4, I should be I guess an 8", she was convinced of that, and I didn't retort. The funny thing is, despite being ugly, she still manages to get dates, and ons, a few weeks earlier, a Chad-lite friend of hers had driven her home, she asked him at the door if he wanted to come up, he said yes and they had s3x. Obviously this friend of mine, she thinks I'm ugly and would never have s3x with me. This I would say explains the current situation of women in the western world.

[@benjaminsente7430]

Dude. A 2/10 must be strongly overweight and/or have some form of disfigurement (e.g. visibly bad teeth) !

[@naam4769]

horrible to even know about it. Female entitlement & narcissism is perpetuated by the very low standards men have... I mean, this chad-lite guy from you, should have rejected her right away. Even if its s3x alone, it raises up the entitlement from women to be spoiled like that... Cant stop to envy that situation though... I never have had s3x and i'm a virgin incel kissless at 33 years old

[@leftrom9738]

This sounds familiar. The closest female friend that I have, is around 3.5/10. I consider her ugly (in the face) and has mediocre body (not fat, but not proportionately pleasing). I'd consider myself around 4/10, but the difference is she's always with someone, had some serious relationships and has no trouble getting s3x. I once got to a debate of how much more difficult our worlds are (relationship-wise), and she wouldn't get it; she was 'just be confident'. I just wanted to scream to her 'DUDE, you're UGLY yet you get s3x all the time BECAUSE you're a WOMAN, just shut the fck up' but decided against it.. she would still not get it, and I'd jeopardize our friendship.

[@1Neckrus1]

brootal

[@Bryan-wb7te]

Even ugly chicks can get dudes since there are so many desperate dudes out there who have lowered their standards (and chads will still bang them out of boredom)

[@steerpike2473]

There is no choice, its either just be chad or spend ungodly amounts of time and effort to get bare bones scraps and eventually a divorce. I'll take video games.

[@adityasalunkhe1288]

Me 3 :))

[@hhkk6155]

Location maxxxing 😎 US can't even issue enough passports for all the people who like to leave 😅

[@skinnytimmy1]

200 hours on video games vs 200 hours meeting women? Either way you will end up with nothing 😂 but at least games are fun, and won't crush your self esteem

[@hhkk6155]

@@skinnytimmy1 depending how bad are you at games 🎮😅

[@frblaze2]

​@@hhkk6155don't go to Western Europe lol, same if not worse than US

[@sspiros1216]

I stopped playing video games at 22. Got into a string of awful long term relationships that inevitably failed. Swore off dating at 35. Started playing video games again, along with other nerdy hobbies I was never allowed to enjoy when I was dating. I'm now 42 and I've gone full circle back into basement dwelling. Only this time, I own the house my basement is in. Never been happier. Stay single kings.

[@Oldeagle66]

Similar for me. I took some time away from dating to work on myself and get back on my feet. After almost two years I sat back and realized how much I had accomplished without women and am more relaxed and peaceful. I haven't dated since. Now I just chill at home, play games, read, tv and enjoy life.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

But why are you in the basement?

[@swoldier7308]

No bro,you need to get with someone you will not be happy with and live the rest of your life with Stockholm syndrome .

[@sergeantmajor_gross]

Having no kids means you’re a genetic dead end m8

[@Anonymous-md2qp]

@@swoldier7308YOU might need someone. Having a partner takes so much money, time, money and money.

[@tgheretford]

Men are quiet quitting. They may focus on socialising with their peers, gym, video games, independence and early retirement but they're doing the minimum needed to survive and sustain themselves while paying the minimum of tax. I said the same thing in a recent DatePsychology video regarding men's role in society.

[@HCforLife1]

Please don't use this corporate made-up slur like "quiet quitting". Men aren't quitting. We are just invisible. Quitting would be when you can date whenever you want but you refuse and focus on something else. Quitting dating apply only to the chad. The rest of male population can't quit dating. It's not even started. The only quitting is to stop dating those Ogre/Kraken women. There is to many average men dating those.

[@flazjsg]

Exactly! A lot of black-pill content creators think it's "cope," but it isn't. Looking through dating profiles and seeing what's out there is enough to make any decent man walk away. Sex is great but it's the other 23.75 hours of the day that makes it not worthwhile.

[@mythicexpanse]

You're right but women do not care at all if the bottom 80% of men are quiet quitting. At best, they will notice and laugh at you on TikTok. Blackpillers need to mobilize and set goals like lawfare perhaps. Suing Match group (owns virtually all dating apps) or maybe even Instagram so that it goes bankrupt. Passing legislation is likely out of the realm of possibility, all politicians/politically minded activists are heavy bluepill/feminist.

[@franciscoaguilar123]

Men are quietly going elsewhere like overseas to find someone. Let these women grow old with cats and box wine. May they all have 20 Chad's in the afterlife.

[@skinnytimmy1]

Yea, at this point in time, having a woman is just an extra responsibility. Some guys are married and still not having sex

[@daveg4417]

I'm in my 60's now. Divorced in 1995 no kids. I lost everything and was homeless for a year, the following 20 years were spent paying off the alimony, her debt, her credit cards, her new car, her utilities, etc. I've been single ever since then, women are not worth it, according to Stats Can the average marriage lasts 7 years. I don't sit at home rotting, I have been working on my business and getting my passive income high for retirement coming in five years.

[@PersistentPatriot]

Its' easy to walk away from relationships, sex and passionately loving females is another story.

[@mahocias]

US laws are insane.

[@patienceobongo]

You can save if you don't need to husband a woman's spending

[@AtheoPaganSith]

PRENUP....GO OVERSEAS....USE YOUR UPPER HEAD TO DO THE THINKING. My advice as a 22+ year old.

[@DonDraper7009]

After several rejections I'm completely done with the world of women, I don't see why I have to be humiliated and suffer continued for who I am, being analyzed and judged in every physical detail. It has changed a lot in recent years the whole market, before good or bad, you could get something, now the demands are absurd, but not only physical, life on social media has been added and even that has to be interesting and active in the eyes of a woman. I know that I no longer have the characteristics to please today's women, so instead wasting time behind dating, I prefer to devote time to my passions and work, since I no longer dating, I am much happier and relaxed. As far as s_ex life is concerned, if you have extreme need, there are other methods, such as going for pay.

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

It's true. I'm tired of hearing about confidence. It's all B.S. I know I can handle it. Do they care? No. We're overly analyzed. Just like you said.

[@Dont_Click_On_My_Video]

I am still a teenager and haven't even entered the dating market. Yet I still have doubts about trying my luck in the first place. The thing is that I will probably be able to find a girlfriend and get married eventually, but is it even worth it? I would likely end up with a ton of debt and a high chance of getting divorced. Most people only date because of societal pressure. They want to be considered ''normal''. I think I am going to try my luck a little bit to see if I can find someone who actually is worth It but if not, guess I'll die single.

[@jhan944]

I hope you are happy that way, I believe you can always climb, go to the GYM, build net worth and then you will eventually be good enough to the eyes of some women

[@DonDraper7009]

@@jhan944 Don't think that women look too much at muscles. I know their radar well, what they scan. My body structure and face no longer correspond to their expectations. I could perhaps resort to surgery, but it's not worth it.

[@RyanYoung-br1iz]

Come on man, level yourself up, stop being an incel

[@JimmySimpson-f9g]

A lot of men are being sent their own way but a lot are also waking away. I can kind of say, I walked away, because my options are so awful. I'm 31, own my own property in the UK (2 bedroom apartment), make good money, own my car, in good shape, admittedly I'm 5"8 and not amazingly handsome. But I'm not hideous either. My only options are 100kg +, single mum's, living on benefits, uneducated, 25 + body count, type of women. I can only really attract women that are extremely low value. That is why I'm walking away. I'm not asking for a model, but I put effort into my life. I take care of my skin, my teeth, my hair and my general appearance. I don't want a woman who is very fat, unhygenic and to top it off has am awful personality. No sense of humour, obsessed with social media, materialsitic, shallow etc. What a shitshow, walking away is the only option.

[@lockyp204]

Yep. Same boat. I’ve worked out what appears to be my market value, based on women’s delusion- and the height thing I’m 5”7…So for the preservation of my own mental health and financial conservatism I’m not interested. And I’m too old to bother o/s now. Oh well, where there’s a yin, there’s a yang..

[@Genevasplaytime]

I'm 5'10 and the only time I'm desired is when I do 5 hours gym a day I can ascend to chadhood but why would I? For these witches? I keep pushing for a unicorn

[@xxxmxxwm1564]

Stop lying. You’d want an OF girl or an instagram girl but they don’t want you. You don’t see the average ones.

[@ma3stro681]

Take a trip to Thailand, bro …

[@SmarterTebya]

good man. May i ask which team you supprt?

[@ohjay7612]

Can we stop pretending men are walking away? These men are being sent away? Women do not want most of these guys

[@matchhunter7012]

It's men who approach FIRST and get on one knee to propose. So if men don't make the first move nothing happens regardless if she accepts or not. Understood?

[@WheatWaffles]

💯 I made this crystal clear in the first 30 seconds there are way more women walking away from dating than men

[@tgheretford]

There's a reason why Rehab Room uses the term MSTOW for the involuntary singles.

[@HCforLife1]

​@@matchhunter7012yeah but we talking about top 20% of men. 80% of men won't get the third date those days and you are talking about proposal... While regular guy do all the chores and goes above and beyond in dating, following all made-up woman rules, the chad is pounding her while he dating or after she break up with him. Don't create some weird concept of men quitting the dating market. You can't quit something you are not even included in. It's like weak disabled man saying that he leave the football team not even playing one game, not to mention being the part of that team.

[@midatlantic09]

Is it really that difficult out here? I know many men with average looks and good jobs who are either in long term relationships or have gotten married within the last 5 years.

[@handsomeX]

My parents got married when they were 20yrs old in 1956. Theyre both 88 now and are still happily married. They bought their first home in 1958 for $5,500. The mortgage payments were $38/month.

[@buak809]

So it was less than 10% of average monthly salary. This is wild.

[@handsomeX]

@buak809 . And there were very few overrall expenses. One car, electricity, and one landline phone. All very cheap relative to the income at that time. You'd easily be able to afford this with any full-time job at the time. One full-time salary would easily cover these expenses, with plenty left to save, invest, and take your family on multiple vacations a year.

[@StrigidaeStrigiformes-sv6mj]

Meanwhile today. Some 40 year old bat expects you to marry her after being used in every deplorable way imagineable for over 20 years. After racking up bodies near 4 digits. She expects you to pay top dollar not only for her, but also a huge 8 bedroom mini palace. Look after HER kids. Supply them with an affluent life. And STILL respect her after she has led a life of a sapient toilet.

[@Necrotrontopdawg-st1yn]

WHO‎ ASKED‎ +‎ MY‎ CONTENT‎ IS‎ WAY‎ BETTER‎ THAN‎ WHEAT WAFFLES

[@necrotronv2493]

*WHO‎ ASKED‎ +‎ MY‎ CONTENT‎ IS‎ WAY‎ BETTER‎ THAN‎ WHEAT WAFFLES* 😂

[@anon2867]

seems like a depopulation strategy

[@TheHarwoodButcher.]

Possible. Feminism, woke-ism, and abortion are the key recipes for depopulation.

[@rimiserk8277]

Jews implemented feminism as a warfare strategy against white people. Israel is the only "Western country" above replacement level, all of this is by design.

[@Broken-Flesh]

Absolutely!

[@castanedafalcon]

Juice

[@mythicexpanse]

Yes! Someone was paying attention in class haha

[@XXLepic]

Why is gaming the ONLY unacceptable lifetime hobby? We all “rot” no matter what you do

[@MikeG82]

because everybody watches TV/youtube or wastes time on their phone video games are an easy whipping boy because a large population don't play them, despite the fact video games are better for your brain than just staring at a screen

[@soacker25]

Phaxxx

[@gwentboy1845]

Playing games is more fun, interactive and thought provoking and educational (not in a cringe way) and grants us a higher level of escapism, them watching tiktok and insta for hours, posting things on tiktok and insta (most likely thirst trap) like reels or whatever and binge watching love island IS brainrot and watching obsessively celebs is just pathetic

[@gwentboy1845]

@teamcoalhapcharcoal and what do you think girls do on insta, tiktok, snapchat, i really would rather play video games than act like a female version of a man-child

[@MikeG82]

@teamcoalhapcharcoal lol most people can't create art or music and the ones that do aren't even good at it, in other words it's just as much "pointless" as video games

[@mtayala]

It's not going to matter until women stop having so many options

[@bigneiltoo]

"Options" to join a harem. Fixed it for you.

[@mtayala]

@@bigneiltoo whichever way you put it, they still have easy access to intimacy and we don't. Nothing will change until women are cut off from easy access to intimacy

[@bigneiltoo]

@@mtayala They have easy access to SEX. Not easy access to intimacy. Being part of a harem is not intimate.

[@shin-ishikiri-no]

The only thing Muslims got 100% correct.

[@BryJovi17]

​@@mtayala well society could demonise promiscuous behaviour again, it could ban things such as make-up, breast enlargement surgery and the contraceptive pill. This way women would have too many consequences if they proceed with their "options" to intimacy. This will take it back to how it was 60 years ago. Alternatively, if we're actually becoming more one with technology, then basically every human interaction by every living person is monitored and recorded and uploaded to your phone's cloud storage on a daily basis. Statistics covering an entire range of metrics of our lives are obtained, and these can be viewed at any time, and requested by another person too. One of these metrics could be total number of sexual partners, last date the person had sex, etc. And women would no longer be able to lie or act as though it's "normal" to be such 304s. Not only this, but men could adjust the criteria of women they're looking for on dating apps by number of sexual partners and in time only the ones with low numbers would be snapped up by men and all the others would get significantly ignored. This would then force all the 304s to get into line and have less sexual partners again. It will take a generation though, and the law on such private matters would need to be in place, but currently I don't think that would be possible because of the dramatic invasion of privacy it involves.

[@JaimeAGB-pt4xl]

Funny how Waffels largely blasts/critics MTGOWs.... and This video is pretty much explaining the core reasoning and agreeing to Why Men go MGTOW

[@andrius799]

MGTOW is moral, right and doesnt hurt anyone...

[@skillsphere9245]

Yes but mgtow didnt explain this in depth nor determined the exact causes its related yes but mgtow just says women are bad and he doesnt really say what mgtow says actually because he always tells that the handsome guys are having it all mgtow are basically average man who didnt make the looks cut and mgtow never said this or explained this they just say women are dangerous but dont explain the black pill being a huge cause of the women not doing what men want and no men want that beta buck energy its the words edit: mgtow is like the outdated cadillac now yes they saw it first but what then was mgtow is now AMS,wheat waffels, kevin samuels,andrew tat. etc etc hoe maths. it basically diverted into the sub root causes of the problem through different youtubers who saw different things

[@chuchaqui1000]

MSTOW - men SENT their own way. Dont forget that

[@JaimeAGB-pt4xl]

@@chuchaqui1000 hahaha true that some are were SENT Away, and not by choice

[@JaimeAGB-pt4xl]

@@skillsphere9245 someone is confusing MGTOW with Black Pilled ... suggest U to watch other Mgtow channels like CGA for example

[@eddiewillers1]

I graduated HS in 1982 - the 'Chad Monopoly' was a thing even then. What's really happened is that the 'stronk and empowered' mindset in wimmin has spread downwards through the social classes (the lower/working and low-middle class being the majority). Previously, it didn't matter if an upper-class chick went wild, as daddy's money and connections would shield her from the negative consequences. The majority have no such shield, and failed to understand that.

[@HCforLife1]

yup. Now every woman believes she deserve a chad. In the past majority of women desired to be with a chad. But they couldn't get it, as there was a lot of consequences associated with cheating. Now - thanks for internet and social media. Any woman can stay anonymous after being pounded by chad who came from different part of the world not to mention the country.

[@pedroj234]

True

[@impressionsbydennis]

Very interesting

[@Brainwreck-mk6dd]

Very interesting take on this matter

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

Go back to the Sixties for the full story. Not according to Boomer hippies though, be careful.

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

I can still date, it's just that the quality that feels safe/attracted to me is too low. Then when I go with a girl anyway, all the girls in public look at me like I'm doing something horribly wrong. Then when I'm single, ladies don't care/are too nervous/get turned off quickly/too many games/etc.

[@Mirthe4390]

When your out with a girl you shouldn't even look at other girls/ people in general your with her

[@featherpebble666]

Why do they look at u in public that way?

[@igorcesar5574]

​@@featherpebble666.

[@Beastclergyman]

​@@featherpebble666cause he is average in looks

[@EvilGamerDude]

​@@Beastclergyman I don't think average men wouldn't get those looks. Unless he's just weird and creepy.

[@JimLambrick]

As a 77 man, married, although I agree on the 'shotgun wedding' thing in the 50's 60's, yes it was a real thing, however, you miss the point that it actually skewed the age of first marriages downwards. So the lack of effective birth control actually was beneficial to longer term society values and family formation. And, because women were much more dependent on the meal ticket bread winner the marriages tended to last. Women, as in high school graduates were very motivated to get married up quick. For a girl 23 was getting scary old. I recall as a 18-20 year old being actively trying to avoid getting entangled with a girl because of the expectation if you dated for a few months you had to carry through and marry her. And of course if you dropped her, you were the Asshole. Some things haven't changed.

[@shanialee7361]

Modern men aren't mad that they can't get women to marry, they are mad that they can't participate in the hookup culture like “Chad”. 😂

[@juhantr6706]

lonely christmas time everyone!

[@obviouslyasockpuppet]

Many aren't walking away. Many just don't meet the requirements. The requirements themselves are unreasonable so maybe we're walking away by not trying to meet them

[@craigsmith2755]

The requirement is to be a lifelong slave. And I have too much self-respect to meet said requirement.

[@zbridgjpxupzm]

Exactly. Walking away implies men have a choice, yet the truth is that most men are deemed unworthy based on the high criteria.

[@GeraldM_inNC]

They are walking away in the sense that they aren't trying any more. They realize that women are just using them for "foodie dates" and there is no chance this will ever lead to anything. In the old days guys would never have come to that realization, they would have kept on buying women free meals no matter how many times it led nowhere.

[@youtubesucks2755]

Requirement of women in their league. Men can always lower their standards or compensate with money. But in that sense, men are "walking away".

[@HexenStar]

Yes they are walking away, cause there is nothing to gain for them in this undertaking. Imagine you had to climb a 20 meter high apple tree, just to get an apple that is already rotten. Out of some insane reason you choose to partake of it all the same. You bite straight into wriggling worms and their bitterly disgusting chunks slide around your teeth and lips. Writhing in revulsion you toss the apple away, but the taste of raw sewage overwhelms you still. You lose your footing and plummet to the ground with a forceful crash. Vision goes blurry, then black. A paramedic wakes you up. His experienced eyes give you the strength to believe that you are not dead. Yet. As the ambulance drives away you notice an object rescue personnel left for you with a personalized note. It's a can of apple jam. You spin it in your hands and scratch your head, looking up that accursed tree. "Never again..." How's that? 🤪🙃

[@Dietpepsiahh]

I don’t care that I’m rotting, because I have mental health issues that make in nearly impossible for me to be successful. I’m just glad to be in a job and in a bed, because that’s all I can ever aspire to. My parents are dead, my relatives don’t give a damn about me and someday I’ll be too old to work and end up starving on the streets.

[@Billybobcan]

If you are Chad and approach a woman, she says that was a sweet gesture. If you are normie or ugly, then the same encounter is considered a sexual harassment.

[@Badger8200]

I didn't choose to go my own way I was sent my own way.

[@flechette3782]

Likewise. You aren't alone.

[@1q2w3e4r5t6zism]

You are so wonderfully rational and have learned to argue scientifically. The slides and their graphic presentation are brilliant.

[@Super-c00n]

Things have gotten so bad out here, that I avoid making eye contact with them, and I avoid being around them in public. I also avoid speaking to them or having any interaction with them unless it's absolutely necessary. When I'm walking towards them on the sidewalk, I take it upon myself to go ahead and cross the street first, and go to the other side of the street away from them. It's sad that I have become this way, but I'm simply adjusting my actions and my behavior to align with the current times. I'm old enough to remember a time when it wasn't like this in society. All it took was one generation for things to change. 😢

[@iancavon7125]

Going to such lenghts to spare women your presence is taking things too far. You're not a leper or something but a normal -- and I suppose even decent -- human being. Not trying (or wanting) to approach them is alright, but deliberately making yourself invisible to them in public just in case one of them might feel "annoyed" by your sheer existence is giving them way too much power. Btw, if that's you in the picture there shouldn't be anything for you to really worry about.

[@Super-c00n]

@@iancavon7125- I appreciate your words, I really do. But I wasn't always like this, it took me some time to get to this point. Again, I'm just adjusting my behavior to the current times. As a man, sometimes you just want to look at an attractive woman, it's a human reaction. A lot of them act like you're not supposed to be a human being. I've noticed that with a few of them on my job, they wear yoga pants and skin tight jeans, but expect a man to not want to look. I'm just tired of playing the games with them. The crazy thing is, a lot of the times these are just average looking chicks we're talking about, not beauty queens. And they wonder why men in general aren't showing up at these holiday parties and other social functions. I'm sure I'm not the only one who feels this way. But I'm not about to give them the chance to label me, or use me as an example.

[@alaypatel6050]

It does not take one generation. Its a work of last 100 yrs. The real effect of modernism just takes about 4-5 generations to take full effect. Its like milkon stove. Its getting hot all the time but suddenly at some point it start s jumping out of the vessel.

[@mantislazuli]

@@iancavon7125 We are leper to most women, and to this society as a whole. I do not want to be in the vicinity of people who hate me for being a man.

[@erickwalter2828]

If you're not successful in dating by 21 just give up on that aspect of your life unless you want to be a provider for someone who only loves you for the things you give them.

[@hassanbirbir6363]

21 is too early to be unsuccessful. At least say 30

[@mohammedgamal5398]

what the fuck is that? maybe the guy looksmaxed after 21 and improved his life and career, maybe marriage is not worth buy not dating in general

[@tgheretford]

As you get older, pre-selection and experience becomes exponentially vital for men to have. And you can't learn it outside of a relationship or fake it. It becomes a BIG problem if you want a partner as someone who has never had a partner or been out of a relationship for a long time.

[@ueue123]

@@Monsoon_Enjoyer Well at least you can lose your virginity without paying for it... it's still something.

[@SartorialisticSavage65]

Well I had experiences 12-19 but all of sudden I was 22 and the quality drop was insane.

[@spinx5943]

we are just not attractive enough

[@bigneiltoo]

Men who are not a 9.55 are just not attractive enough. Women who are 3.9 are attractive enough. Before the welfare state (see our DNA), it was men who were not a 6.7 were not attractive and women who were not 3.3 were not attractive. Whose fault is that?

[@hhkk6155]

Nope, guys are just simping too much. Without betas simping it would be a different world

[@mikeprice8307]

​@@hhkk6155that too.

[@esh9x153]

It isn't normal that the standards in 2023 are so high even 6/10s are having a hard time dating. Simping and tinder are to blame

[@spinx5943]

@@esh9x153 it's getting worse every year

[@jasoncarter4343]

If you have $100k and get divorced, the attorneys take $40k, your wife gets $30k, and you get $30k. You also get to likely pay both alimony and child support for additional years. So, the potential financial loss is 70%+.

[@daveg4417]

It depends on where you live, what country and province/state as the laws on the books and the judges vary a lot. It isn't 50/50 in many places. It depends on income ratios and kids and a lot more. I lost almost everything, at least 90%+. I got out with my car and my clothes and no money and all of her debt. I had everything before the marriage, house, car, business, etc. I was divorced in 1995 in BC Canada after a 9 year marriage. I had to sell my house, I had to pay 10 years alimony, I had to pay her lawyer and legal fees, I had to pay her debt and credit cards, I had to buy her a new car, I had to pay her utilities for one year, I had to give her half of my business, she got all of the savings and bank accounts. My lawyer told me that I got off lucky, especially that we didn't have kids, otherwise I would have had 18 years of $385 per month per kid as well on top of that. I was homeless for a year living in my car, and it took almost 20 years for me to totally pay off all of the alimony and her debt etc. Everyone came to her rescue as the divorced woman, I lost all of "our" friends. Anyone who says it is 50/50 has never been through a divorce.

[@loverofhumanity]

​@@daveg4417no disrespect but your lawyer played you badly. Though I'm sorry for what happened to you. Very fucking painful.

[@daveg4417]

@@loverofhumanity- That is the default property division where I live, for anyone married longer than 5 years, where the wife doesn't work during the marriage. Every guy who goes through a divorce here gets shafted the same as I did if he was in the same situation as me. I was lucky that my lawyer was able to get my pension saved and my RSP, so that I didn't lose all of that. Normally the ex gets half of the RSP and Pension as well. I was also lucky that I didn't have any kids, because I would have also had to give her the house and pay $385 per month per kid for 18 years. The problem is our divorce laws here, not my lawyer. When the wife isn't working, even if she is able to, all of her debt and costs are thrown onto the man. The courts do not force her to get a job and pay for herself. That's why you never marry now, or you are guaranteed to lose 50% to 90% of all that you have. 75% to 90% if she doesn't work or quits her job during the marriage.

[@ilovegettinmoneybags]

@@daveg4417ure a fuckin fighter dawg i fw u heavy na fr

[@oliverreno4734]

@@daveg4417 You should make a video talking about your experiences.

[@gigarayden]

It's not that I don't want, it's that I Can't.

[@mythicexpanse]

True

[@Machi74005]

Being 100% invisible to women all my 56 years has apparently been a blessing in disguise.

[@banzaaiiiii]

Cope

[@Machi74005]

@@banzaaiiiii I own my own home, I'm debt free, and no one took my stuff. If that is "cope" I want more of it.

[@AboutDatMoneyy]

​@@banzaaiiiiiAlright bro, reporting uu

[@js9849]

@@banzaaiiiii what’s wrong with coping through a bad situation?

[@The_Lovey_Informer]

He just saying that because he has nothing to live for...

[@MotorCruiser-w3x]

I am a 64-year-old veteran. In 1992 I refused to continue risking my life in defence of especially woman and their offspring.....this was after many years of abuse from woman….. I’ve witnessing other men being abused and the system siding with the woman....worst was in 1991 when a man I knew, found out that none of his four children were his, the eldest was 17 year old girl which he was immensely proud of....four children with three different fathers....I witnessed a man age, break and fall apart overnight....the 'wife'....no remorse....there is great evil in this world!!!

[@valmcliberty]

Thank you for your service

[@hanalala3164]

Thanks for your service. But men dgaf either when they cheat on their pregnant wives or leave her 😂

[@andressierra457]

I hate how true this all is. I remember when all the Me2 accusations were flying around thinking, 'there will be consequences to both dating and career incentives'. Now, men are opting out of dating and the job market because there is no reason to try. If there is a good woman in your life, then try to start a family, but if not, try to enjoy the decline with a clean conscience.

[@mythicexpanse]

Blackpillers need to start a social movement and start shaming women/Chads right back. Blackpill memes are more potent and funnier because they are true.

[@richardmason1473]

Don't forget the passport option.

[@andressierra457]

It says '2 replies'. Why can't I see the second comment? 🤔

[@richardmason1473]

As long as "giving up "INCLUDES my right to bargain peacefully with your mother and other single moms out there for whatever personal services I might enjoy I don't have a problem with your message...

[@BuildSituation]

U got jewed

[@malone4735]

Always Remember Gentlemen: “There is No Woman Out There who Is More Beautiful Than Your Freedom” 💯💊

[@JustNo8808]

No way freedom is a chick. Freedom is most definitely a dude. Go look at all the people who died fighting for freedom versus the minute amount of women that engaged in it. Women will fight you for on immoral reasons but refuse to fight for morality.

[@ManuelPersona24]

@@Monsoon_Enjoyer Listen, constantly spending your time on your partner by giving gifts, embraces, etc is extremely low quality. Every time I see couples I ask myself why the man is wasting his time

[@bigneiltoo]

@@Monsoon_Enjoyer You don't know one single married man? How many guys have great, hot women who you'd want to spend the day at her sister's house?

[@bigneiltoo]

@@Monsoon_Enjoyer "I wouldn't mind if I knew what I was missing" - You Won't See Me (Beatles, 1965).

[@josesantana770]

You can't fuck your freedom

[@Brakka86]

No woman has ever found me sexy. Even when I was ripped they said I was cute and goofy, which is odd because I'm a serious, cynical guy with strong work ethic. My genes can die, it seems, but I won't live a miserable life and I refuse to be a corporate cog who believes in nonsense such as career or bends to a rotting society.

[@TechWeLove]

Marriage offers men no benefits. Only divorce. ✝️

[@jakesuper6447]

Men aren't walking away they're being SENT away

[@metatron8386]

So Chad can feed.

[@brianedwards9616]

you can't be sent away when you don't even try. i bet you a lot of these incels never tried with women they get so psyched out listening to blackpill ideology that they get delusional and think if they can't be Chad they should not even try to speak to women.

[@AboutDatMoneyy]

Jus like uu think uu kno me when uu don't. I walked away, wasn't "sEnT" my own way

[@js9849]

@@metatron8386 its numerically impossible for Chads to occupy all women

[@darksiders2002]

After another failed attempt to date a woman I really loved, I decided to give up chasing. It is better to be alone knowing you suck, than believing anything will change - because it won't.

[@repeatrerun2047]

Sometimes, when we feel we are losing in life, we are actually beginning to win a better life. Be good to yourself, invest in yourself, be empathetic with yourself and go live the best version of your life that you can. You do that, and I promise you….your best days are ahead of you!!

[@AImighty]

Honestly I came to that conclusion last night that I have no luck with women when it comes to romance. Things can be going well and then boom, they lose interest or they do something stupid that makes me walk away or I somehow screw it up. I had 33-34 sexual partners, out of all of those hook ups maybe 2 of those were people I wanted something serious with but it never worked out. I pretty much accepted I’ll most likely ever find love. I don’t even think I’m bad looking either, I’ve been told I’m good looking but nothing romantically ever works out. But on the flip side we should be grateful to at least experience life and being alive, we could have been born insects or dogs. Always gotta look on the bright side.

[@zoidberg444]

I have been through that situation once and it nearly killed me. I suppose one thing about being blackpilled is that it will never happen again.

[@kompanjonac]

You dont f..in suck. You just dont have enough money. When you are loaded then you are more desirable its scientificaly proven ( probably)

[@CorinMio]

I say fuck it and keep cold approaching other girls.

[@robhingston]

My friend worked painstakingly hard all his life for his family but lost everything because of divorce, He's now living in tiny rented single bedroom in debt in his mid 50s , And his x wife lives an incredibly luxurious lifestyle as the court gave her the lion share This is incredibly common nowadays At least with the video game you can get to the next level

[@ItsJustBoneBro]

Still bluepillers will tell him get off your arse and work hard bro!

[@cicatrene99]

Just be confident, bro!

[@MohamedAmine-jv7yw]

It's over man!!

[@TwanBankz]

i can sympathize but i just dont want to. why would a man get married what is he gaining from it ?? even before all of this content was mainstream , As a kid i always thought men dont gain sh!t from marriage/relationships & thats just the truth not being repulsive or hating on women. But really ask yourself what does a man gain from a relationship that he can get without commitment , intimacy/s3x ?? lol are we really stooping that low for affection i know im not💯

[@shugyosha7924]

I was really excited about a girl I met 3 months ago, I thought finally here is a girl worth investing in... Long story short, no, wrong again. It seems like I can only get somewhere if I'm an emotionally distant asshole, which causes me to disrespect the women and disrespect myself. Being an actual decent human being does not seem to get me anywhere with relationships, and I've tried pretty damn hard for years. The last stop is building a muscular physique and a profitable business. But by the time I have those things, I'm just going to think "you had your chance, when I was on the come up you didn't want me, so why should I share my success with you now?" But that's a recipe for bitterness and loneliness, so shrug. I hope I meet someone this year but we'll see. Just going to focus on me.

[@gkauto1959]

thats absolutely the best attitude you can have!

[@Joe-fj6dj]

I was in similar situation 7 months ago, was into a girl didn’t like me back of course I think she’d even hated me for showing interest in her but I guess it all evened out for me in the end now that I have the job I’ve been waiting for and moved into my own apartment

[@shugyosha7924]

@@Joe-fj6dj Nice one, I'm happy for you. Keep at it man.

[@fgcpeak9591]

You are in for a rude awakening when you realise that doesn't change anything... I'm a fitness model with a successful business. I've found some sexual success in dating, but better believe it's still bad.

[@shugyosha7924]

@@fgcpeak9591What else is there to do? I'm not going to give up.

[@hw982]

What is the point of marriage now? We have lost our religious customs and traditions that were once the cultural norm. The point of marriage was to get a virgin man and virgin woman together in a civil union so they could finally have children. How many now retain their celibacy? Basically nobody. Therefore there is nothing marriage now has to offer as our cultural norms allow everything marriage exclusively offered.

[@andrius799]

yes. But women still expect men to provide for them (their traditional role) while they dont want any of their old roles...

[@JimastaJ]

“Virgin woman.” I chuckled.

[@Iwasavictimofesotericfascism]

Religions are coped, men forced women to follow their coping mechanisms like Christianity, Islam and Judaism. We need eugenics!! More than those cope

[@boston312]

at 45 i have nothing left to give. Society chewed me up and spit me out

[@VMKisselev]

Thailand of iets Europe…

[@friedrichschnobel4000]

I'm a chadlight basement dweller, who wasted alot of time with playing videogames. Feels bad. Early 30s and not married yet, though some random women give me attention and even say hello. But I'm so socially autistic to interpret their signals, that I just keep going and ignoring them.

[@EvilGamerDude]

Just continue to work on your social skills. It's not over if you are a chadlite

[@patienceobongo]

You have successfully passed the 21 century exam

[@brianedwards9616]

brootal i have had some success with women but it was mainly through online dating. IRL I am terrible when it comes to speaking with girls i like. There is one coworker that seems to be hitting on me just by the way she looks and smiles at me but whenever i try to talk to her it gets awkward and i exit the convo. I'm sure she takes that as a sign of lack of interest when she first met me she approached first and tried to talk to me but I didn't escalate it really is over if you can't talk to women even if your looks attract her. I'd argue that a 4/10 guy with great convo skills will do WAY better than a 8/10 Aspie Chad.

[@JoblessJoshua]

at least you get attention and they say hello. I'm a ghost, I've never gotten attention or a hello because im an ethnic south east asian

[@ManuelPersona24]

F*ol. Videogames are more important than dating or girlfriends ever will be. I am a 23-year-old college student who only focuses on his studies and leisure time activities while not having any dating goals. Being single is the optimal life.

[@Ben-kw8nb]

I’m sitting here at 45 watching HGTV alone. No one ordering me around, this single life is impeccable!!

[@GeraldM_inNC]

The theme of this video was comparison of the way dating/marriage was in 1963 vs. 2023. My experience is very much on point, because at 72 now my earliest years were in the old world but when I came of marriageable age in the 1970s feminism was already making a big impact, especially in the New York City area among educated people. My parents were completely oblivious to this change. They believed that any woman who isn't married is all alone every night and crying her eyes out because she's so desperate for marriage that she'll take any man who comes along. I kid you not! They used to complain about all the women I had turned down. No such women existed, my parents only created those women in their imaginations because of they were living mentally in the 1940s. At the age of 72 I can count the number of women who showed any interest in me all my life on my fingers. Of course, my parents would say that there were tons of women dying for my love, but they were too shy to show any sign of their interest in me. I used to tell my parents that I had asked out lots of women over the years but they had all rejected me, but they couldn't process that; in their world, any single woman would be thrilled to go out with any man who asked her out, and most of them would even marry any guy who asked. I was a virgin until 30, after which I focused exclusively on desperate single mothers, who were only taking me because they couldn't get anyone else. But even with them I wasn't good enough, they thought they deserved much better. Long before Internet dating I joined expensive dating clubs and received no inquiries and got rejected by any member I contacted. All that time I assumed that I was just cursed to be a man with no value in the dating market, and that while I was miserable all other men were happily married. It was only when the Manosphere arose and I started reading the comments sections that I discovered my experience was perfectly normal. Once effinism came into fashion, women thought they were too good for anyone but Chat or Tyrone. If in her 30s or 40s she settles out of desperation, it is with the plan made in advance of divorcing her husband and taking half his finances ASAP. Then I realized how lucky I was not to have gotten married and divorce-graped like the majority of my Boomer contemporaries.

[@Doberman_6773]

"It was only when the Manosphere arose and I started reading the comments sections that I discovered my experience was perfectly normal." You just described why some people want these spaces shut down; it was always the intent that men stay 'in the dark' on this stuff. This is also the 'Silver Lining' of dating apps - they are allowing hard data to be collected when people would rather be able to dismiss things as 'anecdotal'.

[@GeraldM_inNC]

@@Doberman_6773 100%

[@GjVj]

@@Doberman_6773 Nailed it. They do NOT want men comparing notes and discussing matters, with real honesty, amongst themselves _away from female supervision._ Teh menz might start getting ideas...

[@The_Lovey_Informer]

It’s more of a voluntary and involuntary quitting… I’ll explain. For most men, involuntary quitting the “dating” game. Is essentially not having the chance to join. But also volunteering to not play anymore because of his bad experiences. So for some men. It’s both. But for the attractive men. It’s only voluntary(while just smashing and passing).

[@Hack3r91]

Romance and love is a scam, the average middle aged couple just barely toletate each other, and as soon as the kids move out they either divorce or keep enduring the pathetic life because they'd just rather not be alone as the stench of death creeps closer every year. This is as true today as it was 60 years ago, we are missing out on nothing.

[@euphoricbliss6699]

Yeah I've come to believe this is probably the truth sad to say

[@BuildSituation]

Grass os always greener on other side

[@djmaxwell1029]

I'm at a crossroads where I'm debating whether to stay single for the rest of my life with what I know or try the relationship lottery. I've seen very bad examples in my family, I've experienced the negatives of dating myself, plus I've seen a lot of manosphere content...At 30 I've come to the conclusion that life will suck with either choice. No one prepares you for the fact that life is not easy, even if you have food to eat and there is no war.

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

You will regret it if you don't have kids. You will regret it if you do have kids. Either way, do not get married. If you get married, she will have all the control, power and leverage to treat you badly and destroy you in divorce.

[@agoogleuseranonymous2658]

Actually wars even the odds. Like men become more valuable. It's like in Russia and Ukraine, I bet average dudes are hot potatoes. It's only the West there is overvaluation of women and an explosion of simps. Yeah overall it's not better the Western model. I think feminism killed the 60s dynamic of the nuclear family. Now everybody's employee's X(sexless) and works a 9-5 job with a paycheck.

[@agoogleuseranonymous2658]

And yeah I think detached houses like back in the 60s with the nuclear family are also becoming less common. Lots of people men and women alike shy away from the responsibilities of home ownership.

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

@@agoogleuseranonymous2658 what's the point of buying it when you are just going to lose it to her in divorce.

[@agoogleuseranonymous2658]

Yup I got a coworker like that who bought his house and has a partner. And when I brought this up to him that if he would ever split, then she's away with half his shit. He kept rebuffing saying "It really depends and etc.". Yeahh right. If he ever do end up splitting I think he will be in for a rude awakening. yeah he bought his house before meeting her.@@marriagecausesdivorce7540

[@lesterdiamonds27]

Incels and guys who can’t get dates do not know how lucky they are! I was a Chad lite and was married to a 7/10 female! I had her from age 19-41ish. This is my take: 1) sex could be had whenever in theory. In practice I would initiate 98% of time. As year went by her interest in sex grew less and less and became more of a negotiating tool. I’ve learned sex is more of a chore and tool of manipulation for women. A woman’s sex/orgasm is shopping and they enjoy nothing more! 2) loneliness-most guys who can’t get a girlfriend suffer from loneliness. Having a woman resolves that. But 90% of the time that means just having a body around as you are both doing different things. The woman wants a man to stave of loneliness but also for parental and financial support! This is a huge difference between the sexes and why many men are caught off guard when she wants a divorce. Your companionship was more about financial and parental support and 1/3 about her really liking or being attracted to you while us men are with a women because we like her completely! 1/3 companionship 2/3 access to sex. 3) accomplishment- this is where incels don’t see the gift they’ve been given. Women are users. They choose relationships beneficial to them and when they derive no more benefit they move on which is extremely easy as they always have numerous suitors. I look back on 20 years and although the parent and family thing were cool, 20 years of my life were really just employed for her benefit! If I had those 20 years back I’m almost positive I could have been a millionaire or a monk or a Doctor or anything I wanted to be! Now I’m almost 50 and crippled from dependency on a woman and having to learn what I should have learned starting in my 20s. Men don’t waste your life on a relationship with a woman! Figure out what your life purpose will be and that can take 20 years but keep searching alone. Once you’re clear then if you choose to incorporate a woman who will fit with your goals fine. If not stay on your purpose! Leave something great in this world behind! We only have one life to live and I promise you, a women is the least productive way you can live it!!

[@johnrambo3680]

Well said very well said

[@agoogleuseranonymous2658]

This is scary I got a coworker like that he is close to 50 like you and he's saying exactly the same thing. He used to be a millionaire working as a consultant. So he got married with the wrong woman and when they split she ended walking away with $500k from him. She had not even a dime in her pocket and no schooling at all. Now he's all about making himself happy and following his passion. He also got kids and child support to pay. Yeah I'm still young and me I would only sign a good deal. I see so many bad deals out there.

[@agoogleuseranonymous2658]

Like if he had invested that money he'd probably still be millionaire today.

[@mythicexpanse]

Interesting MGTOW perspective

[@esh3325]

Well thats the thing; guys who are involuntary celibate or have no dating experience dont see it like that nor do they know this; if you dont know you dont fucking know. Everybody wants to have intimacy, sex, love, touch, girls in their life when you are young (and old btw) and you focus on finding that. You need to experience all of the things before you come to the conclusion of what you are saying. Sadly for most guys this will never happen. Not to mention the social status sex and success with women gives. Not to be underestimated.

[@jaymiller6009]

I’m a strong independent man and I don’t need no woman. What? Oh, only women get celebrated for that?

[@villain205]

A man needs a woman like a fish need a bicycle

[@Anthony-dj4nd]

Video Games aren't going to send you to jail, ghost you or try to steal all of your money!😂

[@placerholder99]

unless it's CS2 which feels like a cheater prison that bans you instead and makes money on skins instead of game quality

[@AtheoPaganSith]

BINGO bro lol. massage parlors to get laid, pets for companionship. STAY SINGLE, GO OVERSEAS IF DESIRING A WIFE/FAMILY(better odds anyway, IMO). THEND.

[@АндрейСапонов-р1л]

Something that's heavily hinted at this channel but never talked about directly is how women simply came to have way too much rights that as a whole led to the current situation. They can get about any job, they can go to college, there are public toilets built for them, and they are no longer responsibility of their male relatives. The biggest mistake of the society is creating conditions letting them exercise hypergamy and giving men literally zero leverage to ensure the woman stays committed to them and to their marriage. In this environment that is massively biased against men and where most men are made outright irrelevant it's much better to be a "basement dweller" and spend what you earn on sites and video games, than give it all away to a woman, who will take it for granted and will barely offer anything in return, and is completely capable of providing for herself to begin with. In fact, with the rise of the social media and fans sites, it's easy to say a lot of women make more money in their 20s than some men at the peak of their careers.

[@giantclaw138]

It sounds like you're trying to say women should have less rights without actually saying it, which is pathetic. An answer to a problem should never involve taking away people's rights.

[@АндрейСапонов-р1л]

@@giantclaw138 This situation people are talking about is a fairly recent development. Somehow the society never faced such an issue in thousands of years of humankind. Now, every single right I mentioned before women simply did not have mere 200 years ago, which really isn't long from a historical perspective. Of course, rights should never be taken away from people... unless those rights are excessive and should never have been granted to begin with? I suggest you keep an open mind, because who knows what things will look like in decades from now. What you deem "pathetic" today might be deemed essential tomorrow in order to ensure our survival as species.

[@undies891]

@@giantclaw138 He's right though. There's a good reason 99% of past historical societies kept women as second-class citizens. They cannot be trusted with their own freedom.

[@Himmel23]

​​@@АндрейСапонов-р1л I somewhat agree with this, i think they were given too much freedom of choice where their hypergamy is on full overdrive at all times, that coupled with social media just makes them make the wrong choices time and time again. There's a reason why back in day most often than not the men were chosen for for them, it's because we've always known they suck at making that choice in a way that will be actually productive to civilization or helpful for them in the long run, they operate on immediate emotional validation, not long term strategy. For thousands of years we had the same system, and i can see no history book mentioning them screaming their lungs out for privileges and rights like today, even they knew back then what happened to women who "rebelled", they'd usually end up single mothers, struggling, used by the bad boys everyone told them to avoid or worse, and it's the same today, only now they call it empowering. Back in the day if you chose the wrong partner it meant death, no father would want his daughter pregnant by some randoo who couldn't protect her, and the fathers knew that if she had her way that's exactly what would happen. We've known of their hypergamy since forever, it's a tale as old as time and that is why things were the way they were, to protect her best interests. I think we should at least have more social and family pressure for them to actually make the right choice instead of outright removing those rights, but obviously we keep seeing bad behavior being encouraged so that's exactly what we'll see for a while, either we step up or society will collapse not long from now, i mean, look at Rome, A LOT of men not having basic needs met because a society did not allow them to have such needs let to revolt and the society being weak as it was, it was unable to cling on. If we want to avoid the same fate we should really look at our traditions and fix how we're doing things, because at the end of the day, reproduction is the core of a civilization, if that is defective it won't last long.

[@namenotfound6881]

@@giantclaw138it’s weird how modern humanity believes we are so much wiser than ancient civilization in all aspects. We may be smarter but wisdom seems to have gone out the window with every passing generation and civilization that has risen and fallen. There’s certain things they had a handle on that once we started throwing the rules away, society started on a downward spiral. I’m a woman and I personally think society would be better with our “rights” taken away. We shouldn’t be able to vote without having to fully face the consequences of our choices. Being able to work has made hypergamy run rampant because we have a biological need to be supported by a man and be with a man that is stronger/better/more competent. It’s the equivalent of trying to shut down a man’s desire for young/fertile, feminine, beautiful women. Society is in a free fall because of sexual and economic liberation. Because no one is getting what they want because they’re going against biology with the assistance of technological advancement. Just because you can do something, doesn’t mean you should. It seems like too many of my female counterparts can’t grasp this concept. They can’t seem to put the greater needs of society and their own personal future above their short sighted desires. Everyone needs to grow the hell up. I believe men seem to do that better

[@phoneticau]

90/10 rule most men dont make the cut pointless playing the game

[@BrianWaller-qe7gr]

It’s more like 95/5 now

[@midatlantic09]

@@BrianWaller-qe7gr In reality, it's probably not actually 95/5 simply because a man who's in the top 5% likely isn't going to get romantically involved with a woman in the bottom 50% for any reason.

[@mythicexpanse]

​@@BrianWaller-qe7gr95/5 is the rule on dating apps.

[@mythicexpanse]

​@@midatlantic09i think Chadlites do go for slampigs when they are on a dryspell. That ruins the market irrevocably though because then those women only want Chadlite.

[@midatlantic09]

@@mythicexpanse That's the thing, a man who is truly in the top 5% typically doesn't have dryspells like the average man has. If a man goes through a dryspell despite actively looking, he may not actually be in the top 5%.

[@vedas4life584]

If u live in the West, it’s sort of understood in this regard when u see that most women there barely take care of themselves but expect men to be super handsome in order to attract them. In the eastern countries it’s a woman who is expected to be beautiful and feminine, while for a man it’s more about his masculine qualities.

[@dimadilemma]

as eastern european, i may say that you right, but our girls also would pick more beautiful and tall man if he have salary like 5/10 and beauty like 5/10, instead of 7/10 salary but 3/10 beauty

[@dimadilemma]

also eastern european more poor so like at the 8:52 peoples dont have good tv good phone and etc so dating seems funnier than in west, also i dont know how west europe act to man who sleep with the slut but in my country if you sleep with slut you also dont seems like good man/ father, that also make your "history" worse, maybe just not so bad as for woman

[@eddieliusa]

Since hook culture isn’t as* big in Eastern Europe, when a girl is approached it’s usually genuine, in this west the girls always know he’s just trynna F, therefore making them keep a guard up always.

[@Whatreally123]

Nope. Asian women are pretty much th3 same just that they'd go for the western man cos his currency has a greater exchange value. Simple as that. They might not be as loud but the basics are just the same.

[@priyaqueen1120]

​@@Whatreally123you are totally wrong some Asian women might go for white man but most of the Asian women marry there own race u should know that

[@Wienerwurstwald]

very well thought through video. I think the dopamine/cope mechanisms that men have to rot away/to not date/commit is applicable to women too, although they have way more offers that force them out of it

[@Mirthe4390]

single woman are happier

[@Wienerwurstwald]

@@Mirthe4390 if that's true and works longterm, good for them. Kind of sucks for men though, but a lot of people find things to cope and i think most men will too. How good that might be for society as a whole is another question though

[@xXExtremeRampageXx]

@@Mirthe4390 I'm not so sure about that. Aren't there statistics out there claiming modern women, even though they have more freedoms than ever in human history, are the most unhappy ever with a tendency to go lower and lower + all the mental health problems and medications?

[@AboutDatMoneyy]

​@@Mirthe4390Cap.

[@ames9957]

It's not only about marriage and family it's also about the whole society in general. Do you think men will die for a society that doesn't respect them, they will not. Do you think men will work in a dangerous jobs with very low pay and they will accept that, i don't think so. The conclusion when men are told all the time that they are useless and they are criminals and pegs and lots of negative things, the whole society will go to the worst situation.

[@craigsmith2755]

The brainwashing is slow but sure. If the men of 60 years ago could see what men are like now they would be shocked. If they could see what women are like now they would be disgusted.

[@eanderson9599]

Your presentation of your videos is immaculate

[@teacake6941]

Most men feel like them getting out of dating is like a rat getting out of someone's house. We were never invited, all we get are scraps, and we eventually feel better after we leave.

[@c0nk2879]

Everyone is so closed off that its impossible to even mention something about your surroundings to start a conversation, you get looked at like you're a threat, i'm so sick of feeling unwanted. At work, school, doesnt matter. It's like im some kind of undesirable who no one would dare associate with. I was able to date women during and a bit after high school but my 20s have been absolutely horrible. I feel like i have no place in the world anymore

[@streetguru9350]

Just waste money going to college

[@perrybb2]

After my college gf dumped me when I was 21, my first thought was "I am literally never going to find another woman" because I was well aware that 98% of women just aren't attracted to me. Thankfully I had the money to go overseas and met some amazing women from other countries that have given me hope. Most foreign women who have met young Western guys are well aware of what it's like over here and show a refreshing level of empathy and understanding

[@michaeljennings8221]

As a Christian, I do appreciate this video. I understand your frustration with other Christians who talk about marriage as a duty. The Scriptures teach that a single life is a higher calling than a married life. (1 Cor 7:1, 6-7). Marriage is a calling for some Christians, not for all.

[@Jesuswalks7475]

Yeah, celibacy, staying a virgin your whole life, Is something I can't do in this life. Plenty of gen z are celibates.

[@augustodelerme7233]

​@@Jesuswalks7475just say you are asexual and people will leave you alone.

[@plaasboer1568]

Yea but I think the majority of people should marry.

[@bigneiltoo]

@@plaasboer1568 Only 2% of women are interested in the average man while the average woman is treated like men in the top 2% online. That's a 2500% Female Ego Inflation factor. Your tax dollars at work.

[@deusvult8340]

The unmarried are priests and religious

[@flechette3782]

I had another point I wanted to mention with the guys: success in life shouldn't be measured by the romantic relationships you have. Think of all the historical characters, from the great explorers, adventures, philosophers, scientists, etc that did not have a long term relationship with a woman. Think of Nicolai Tesla. Isaac Newton. Think of the men on sailing ships. Most of these guys could not have accomplished what they did and go down in history if they had a nagging wife holding them down. Embrace your opportunities.

[@rorycolgan]

😂 there is some truth here

[@flechette3782]

@teamcoalhapcharcoal I think a lot of men are held back by women. The constant nagging, reluctance to take risks, the time needed to feed their demands...all hold men back from doing exceptional things. Dare to be great.

[@HexenStar]

Even if he is not Isaac Newton he can nonetheless understand the value of time, freedom and the power to make his choices unaffected by any societal burden. Even if he is just a fisherman, his world experience can still be richer than that of Newton's. He could be a rock-climbing, sea-diving, treasure-hunting, guitar-shredding, harley-riding bad superfunctional motherfucker. Newton that.

[@SS-zf1tv]

@@flechette3782 then women rejecting men is a good thing

[@flechette3782]

Sort of. To be more accurate, men not putting a ridiculous amount of effort pursuing a woman is good thing. My attitude, if you meet a woman and think that she can fit into YOUR life, make a pass at her. If she gives you any bullshit or starts playing mind games…walk a way. Remember, the amount of time you spend having sex is a ridiculously small fraction of your life and is pretty overblown. And a woman in a romantic relationship is not your friend. Friendship and a romantic relationship are fundamentally different relationships.

[@bimrebeats]

1000 years from now aliens explain: ”In their attempt to control population growth, they discovered techniques that end up leading to their own extinction due to excessive inbreeding.”

[@GodWorksOut]

There’s just no point to it. I had to deal with enough trauma, I don’t want to deal with someone else’s who may or may not ever recover. And I definitely don’t want to live with them.

[@mrw23]

“Do you know any happily married people, Sam?” This is a question asked by Sharon Stone’s character to Robert DeNiro’s character in the movie Casino. The movie was based on real life events that happened back in the 70’s. That was 50 years ago. Think about it.

[@claidheamhsoluis3044]

I already saw the bs society is going to a decade ago so I concluded early on that I would just opt out... Also, I have work and I prefer gaming instead of clowning myself in this dating game

[@skinnytimmy1]

Even when you find women who like you, they are still playing games and playing hard to get. Like even if they think you are a 10/10 they could never let you feel that way

[@euphoricbliss6699]

Yeah great point. Anything that might make a man feel wanted is a no no

[@fgcpeak9591]

this is a great point

[@Necrotrontopdawg-st1yn]

WHO‎ ASKED‎ +‎ MY‎ CONTENT‎ IS‎ WAY‎ BETTER‎ THAN‎ WHEAT WAFFLES

[@r2gh44]

I have unironically paused all of my dating activities for the next 3 years. Want to focus on my career and investing and fitness and stuff. I honestly have no desire for a gf in the next 3 years.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

Very good. Women ate turning 18 every day. Stack money and lift weights.

[@frblaze2]

​@@GUITARTIME2024but you also get older, and 18 year olds are conditioned to hate older guys, you're not gonna be getting them at 30

[@Joe-fj6dj]

If my grandpa was able to live past 90 with being an alcoholic I don’t think I want to even start to a relationship for another 15 years

[@GUITARTIME2024]

@Joe-fj6dj that's called anecdotal evidence. Doesn't mean YOU can live a long life that way.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

@@frblaze2 a 30 yr old, if he looks ok, can date college girls.

[@yaboytl]

Dating is becoming like a pay to play game. They want you to spend (Money. Energy. Attention. & Time)... online or in person, all for stank box, just to have a kid or two that you'll be lucky to see and raise in house from 0-18yrs old.

[@Zybax1]

protect your meat lol classic cga

[@marriagecausesdivorce7540]

No one talks about this. The kids you have you will only be able to see twice a month and you will have to pay hundreds in child support to her every month. s/o CGA.

[@craigsmith2755]

How some men are brainwashed into this game I will never know.

[@andrewevans7992]

@@igga_hdmore like pay to lose and get STDs.. but yeah, do whatever you want. Its not my body

[@BuildSituation]

Most boring and cruel game ever

[@neohermitist]

I'm 54 and married for 27 years, marriage isn't even that fulfilling. You work and provide, sacrificing time, money and most importantly peace and often your wife and children could care less and hardly grateful for what you do.

[@Skelstoolbox]

I was a heroin addict for a long time.. Now I'm almost 40 and still single and starting over like a 21 year old.. wonderful.. Never got married or had kids though..

[@MrHDProd]

most of my friends dont have a dating life and low experience with woman. i guess the dating game is over for sub5s

[@jadominek7116]

For 6s and most of 7s too

[@bigneiltoo]

Women find 80% of men ugly. Stop thinking you must be below average if you're a single man. "Incel" means NOT Chad.

[@esh3325]

Sadly for most sub5s it will never begin in the first place. People are no more than animals with the same sexuality. Only the best, the fittest, the most attractive pass into the realm of sex and love. And into the future as new offspring.

[@GeraldM_inNC]

@@esh3325 - Sadly, pair-bonding turns out to have been something forced upon women by society so that everyone could have a mate. It's totally against female nature to breed with anything but the top echelon of men, in nearly all mammalian species. Now society has let women chose for themselves how they want to breed and they've made their choice clear. They would rather be in the enormous rotation of an Alpha male than to have a Beta male all to herself. We Beta males just have to accept that and move on with our lives without women or offspring.

[@Iwasavictimofesotericfascism]

​@@jadominek7116cope, 7s are chadlites they're thriving. You're too chronically online😅

[@BPBunker]

I walked away because of the sheer amount of effort and risk you put in for such little reward. You have the risks mentioned in this video, but you also have the fact that men are not valued in society anymore, and it's reflected by just how low value they are in the dating market. I'd rather focus on myself than focus on catering to random women for a "chance" to "get her to like me". The amount of effort a man must put in to get an average woman is emasculating.

[@gokublack7904]

You absolutely nailed it bro. That's also my opinion. Men nowadays are basically trophies for women and you have to do SO MUCH, just to get a few dates. No thanks, I rather stay single

[@shv90210]

This is depressingly sad, why did Humanity became so increasingly evil and uncaring. Men like me aren't even given a chance.

[@ELgeneral-pl9yg]

Nature can be cruel

[@shv90210]

@@ELgeneral-pl9yg Yes I know, the levels that exist today. Is detrimental to society itself. But in the West, Individualism is the ideal way.

[@QWERTY-gp8fd]

natural selection. chad chose low value woman and we are the result. thats all.

[@patienceobongo]

Being surrounded by English peep is a depressant.

[@Genevasplaytime]

There are always loopholes buddy. Passport

[@BEASTNYC]

The relationship replacement for some/many men now is: OF, chat-bots, AI girlfriends etc..

[@shadowmist4111]

I think a lot of the basement dwellers have been rejected many times and see the quality of women they could get if they did try deciding it isn't worth it. Like WW said in past videos, now I can just see the hypogamy right there in the open. It is so obvious now and basically the only time I see a couple where there isn't a 1-3 point spread in value from the women as compared to the man is when the couple has been together for 10+ years whereas the women hasn't been diluted into thinking she deserves chad. There are a lot of 8-10s in terms of single women, they are just waiting be on rotation for chad.

[@CybrZone]

I just struggle to see the point dating but maybe that's because I'm in my early 20s, I have far much importance on my career, gym, social network, business growing and personal development. I am slightly concerned if I leave it too long I'll be looked at as a weirdo but so what, the juice isn't worth the squeeze. If I am alone due to not looking like a chad then so be it, I'll have peace in my life and all my money is mine to do whatever I like with.

[@tgheretford]

The term "the juice isn't worth the squeeze" is something I hear often regarding dating from men. The solution from commentators, gurus and coaches is to shame men back into dating. It will not work.

[@VR_Wizard]

You need a certain amount of money to life comfortable. You shoukd not get dating interfere with thhat. If you make more you should spend it on .aking you hapoy getting a girl is a way to spend it well. So making stuff tonget to know girls like doing dance classes spending your time and money on it. But also have in mind all the other things like money when you are old and career opportunities. So its a balanced calculation dont throw away the idea of meeting girls completly plan it into your daily routines like brushing teeth come into contact with wo.en. i think thats the best you can do.

[@CybrZone]

very true @@VR_Wizard

[@nodrinkingproblemhere9095]

It does not matter what your financial situation is, go out, have fun and find someone to settle down with. I missed my chance in my 20's. This is the best age to pick cherry's. I started literally from streets with low self esteem and I was only focused on making money and to start living "normal" . I am now 36 with 3bedroom house, car etc. I am still getting dates, but the problem is not in the quality of meat I can get, it is in the screwed up mindsets of dates I manage to land. And chicks that are single in my age group have either kids from previous relationships or are batshit crazy. Or both. You don't want to wait too long, trust me.

[@cactushound]

Don't forget, paternity fraud is another reason why men don't want to get involved anymore.

[@Auzuru]

4:56 Sorry but if you're a chad and you take anything below a 6 you seriously have a mental problem lol

[@johnny-mnemonic13]

Some chads who don't have access or time (due to money) just take what they attract, even if it's a sub6, since they know their looks will not last forever.

[@bigneiltoo]

@@johnny-mnemonic13Chads who settle for 6s are called men in the 90 to 95 percentile (above "average" but not Chad).

[@johnny-mnemonic13]

@@bigneiltoo Do you consider 7s or 8s or 9s as Chads? Let's start with that.

[@bigneiltoo]

@@johnny-mnemonic13 No, did you read Dataclysm? Women find 80% of men ugly and only 4.5% attractive. I have women tell me I'm handsome almost every day. Handsome is not Chad. Chad would be the top 2%.

[@bigneiltoo]

@@johnny-mnemonic13 Women: Male 7s are ugly. Male 8s are borderline ugly. Male 9s are average. Male 9.55s are attractive. Male 9.8s are "Chad" (but if he has no money she'll have Sugar Dad too).

[@karl2477]

im 30yo, handsome (7/10 from WW face rating), in shape, well dressed, decent career and still get slim pickings in London. Hoeflation is very real! Dating is a waste of time and money.

[@Genevasplaytime]

London is brutal too.many racemixing white girls taking away from my choices.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

How many women do you cold approach each week. Be honest.

[@linwoodhamilton3787]

Unfortunately i have myself stopped trying to date,last person that tried to get me to go out was a female at work,she was like "oh we should go out for drinks",i simply told her that she did'nt want to know me outside of work,first i will never date anyone who works where i work,second,i didn;t find her attractive, third & most importantly to me i've been used for my money so many times i lost complete interest in human contact in general,i already have a adult daughter so what's the point,why waste my time & money.

[@GUITARTIME2024]

I hope you didn't really tell her she's unattractive. Be polite.

[@antonioarmando1938]

Hope you did tell her all that. One can only be abused and used so many times before going super cold.

[@linwoodhamilton3787]

No i did'nt tell her anything like that, i simply told her verbatim "she did'nt want to know me outside of work" but that's a me thing,i have 0 trust in anyone,i've been taken advantage of so many times i lost count,where i'm from if anyone wants to talk to you they want something period.@@GUITARTIME2024

[@TwanBankz]

@@GUITARTIME2024fck that bro they never spared us , i was gettin called a creep for blatantly ignoring women? like how does that even make sense i dont even look at u?

[@Rutabaga288]

I've quit dating 10 years ago. Best decision of my life.

[@carlosrex488]

You were forced to quit man, just like the rest of us. But, yes it was a good desicion.

[@AboutDatMoneyy]

​@@carlosrex488Like the rest of yall.

[@Barni2212]

It's just not worth it. I am almost 30 and quit all together. My main reason is that you need to provide your absolute peak just to try to keep a woman. The moment you relax a little bit, you will get cheated.

[@drimhighify]

The risk of divorce is 40%?? Where?? In the UK, in the US...? I am spanish and in Spain that risk is about 60%!! So getting married in Spain is actually betting (in favour) for you losing your kids and half your shit, and all this in one of the worst economies in the "civilized" world 😂

[@thealternativecontrarian9936]

Careers for men are threatened because we compete with people from two Asian nations. We cannot afford to buy homes, either. And with dating where it is nowadays, we cannot date and have families. Men's futures are grim and gloomy and it doesn't bode well for civilization or culture. Something is going to snap.

[@Lighthawk1986]

Yeah, who would have thought exporting all the jobs would remove people’s work ethic? How could this possibly have happened? 😂

[@toddjohnson271]

Chaos and conflict for a long dark ages.....if man even survives.

[@georgesontag2192]

Nobody can change a women's desire to date a movie star. She has seen too many movies where a woman finds a millionaire, great looking and has a private jet and island. She expects that. She won't settle either.

[@vitzeele]

Black pill is the best Period.

[@thefalloutkid13]

Wrong. Unless your physical disabled, or have deformity black pill is not meant for majority of people.

[@patrickb33339]

I appreciate you giving us both perspectives. Keep up the good work.

[@zukodude487987]

I have carried the mind set of relationships being a negative return on investment for the past 2 years. A lot of work and very little pay off with huge risks. Its safer and cheaper to be alone and i dont consider it rotting if you live your life.

[@ozne_2358]

Two important points that are NEVER made in this kind of videos : 1) In many countries and states you do not need to get married for the government to consider you as such. In some place (i.e. Australia), there's not even a minimum time that you need to live together for this to be true. 2) Prenups might or might not be legal in your jurisdiction. In many they are legal but effectively useless as the court needs to be satisfied that are "fair". This is more or less the same "fair" of splitting 50%. In practice this means that you might be able to agree on the split of a particular item, but the general split will be pretty much 50% anyway. Ah, and they need to be signed not under duress (i.e. I'm not marrying you if you don't sign).

[@thelawyer95]

Ngl Australia is probably the biggest shithole right now.

[@ronaldwilson6295]

There is always free cheese in a mousetrap.

[@TheHarwoodButcher.]

I honestly don't blame men (who want a genuine relationship) for walking away from dating life, but it is both men (simps) and women who have made the real men walk away.

[@winshifter]

Very good points. When I was in college, I dated much much more that what I do now....which is efectively zero. I did notice that, as time went on, the quantity of dates I had diminished considerably as the years went by. Most of my relationships either lasted very little or not really started past the few dates, sometimes it was me ending it, but most times were the woman ending it because they found someone with more "value"....which latter I noticed they meant monetary value. While I do play videogames, I don't spent hours playing them, I do spend time researching about my line of work, which is software development, so I try to be at least informed about the current trends and stuff like that, which from an outside point of view, it might seem as if I spent too much time in my computer (I mean, duh!, that's my job, that's what I like, it makes sense), but most women think I'm just watching youtube videos or reading stupid stuff, one even said that what I do in my job is something I make up just so that the company thinks I'm working, because in her opinion, no one would read 1000 lines of code to fix a typo or rewrite a stupid sentence....🤦‍♂Well, I don't know other people, but I do like to read thousands of lines of code if needed be, sometimes I don't need to read them all, but that's part of the fun, but I digress. Nowadays, I'm lucky if a woman at least thinks I'm cute or interesting, the standar is that I'm just weird...which I take as a compliment, better weird than regular. My point is, this has been going on for years, slowly but surely this was going to happen and will get worst. The only way I think women will at least consider that they are in the wrong, and that is by a long shot, is if at least 50% of all men either die or simply do jobs normally associated with women and let the woman literally take charge of things normally only men do...that or 50% of male population worldwide suddenly die and that's when things will start to collapse. Men need Women as much as Women need Men, but currently Women are in denial about this. Hope things change in the near future, but I have low expectations, it not at all about that.

[@somewhere0verthere]

I am 30m. I've never even had my first kiss. And with how the world is going I'm not sure if the dating world is even worth trying to add more pain to my life which I'm barely hanging on to.

[@darrengrainger8663]

Dating as a non chad can just be stressful and just doesn’t feel worth it

[@Bullet-Tooth-Tony-]

Passport bros is the only solution at this point

[@mythicexpanse]

What about your fellow sub5s in Southeast Asia?

[@Arejen03]

Everytime i feel sad that im 32yo short male with no dating options video like this saves me.

[@youcool719]

Yo stay strong

[@stefdiazdiaz7067]

I heard judges can declare pre-nups invalid in many cases

[@hydraV1-c7d]

yes " I signed it under duress your honor"

[@bleblee]

It's call duress

[@MichRoyal]

Great video Wheat! I love the logical breakdown of the issues which imo, are pretty spot on. We live in different times and ultimately, it comes down to making a choice of what sort of life you'd like to live. Many men also I believe deceive themselves into assuming they'll be happy once they're in a relationship, without taking into account just how much work is required today to foster one. Relationships aren't just you and your partner mindlessly simping for one another as you sit at home and play games together. There inevitably comes that point where bigger issues come into play; money for vacations, filling in the void with branching social events, considering your future and buying a place together etc. Concessions on certain interests to give more time to your partner. Even Chad who they're so envious of doesn't tend to be relationship material, he just pumps and dumps. The Chads who are in long term relationships are often social butterflies who thrive in public environments and hold interest in those areas such as sports, partying, vacations etc. So, he's sort of built for that relationship dynamic. Before assuming you'd be happy if you had a woman by your side, consider your character and interests, and truly map out how a hypothetical relationship would flow long term. Are you simply craving sex? (There are other avenues to reach that) Or are you craving legitimate long-term connection? If so, realize concessions are inevitable and being in a relationship is a dramatic life shift. Just like how men should call out feminists who want the perfect 6/6/6 man. We should call out other men who delude themselves into thinking they'd be happy if they could just be with a woman, without considering that concessions to make the relationship work are inevitable, especially if you're the more recluse and less social individual.

[@DMM_Fan]

Exactly what we needed was this videos showing reality how everything got harder. And everyone born at lvl 0