The Great Vibrator Myth

[@TodayIFoundOut]

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[@jimidkfa]

i think Simon missed a perfect opportunity to start a new line sponsorship for his videos....

[@curtjameshatmaker5691]

​@jimidkfa my guess, it would've been a very lucrative sponsorship

[@jimidkfa]

@@curtjameshatmaker5691 i agree. imagine the slogan for the video: Feel the buzz, with good vibes from this video where pleasure is power, and this is the source - i am a mere biomechanist and am sure the more creative types could give better memes

[@commodoresixfour7478]

JOY stick

[@recoveringsoul755]

Shoes?

[@jeffterwilliger788]

Kudos to Simon for presenting this entire script with a straight face.

[@jeffdroog]

He did not.Craven Wood got him pretty good.

[@smnkm4ehfer]

A true professional 😂

[@Invictus_Terminus]

If you look closely you can tell this one was cut together from what we can all assume was a much more hilarious and long winded video.

[@darkobingus9714]

Back in “today I found out” so gotta cut it sanitized lol

[@valkyrie1066]

He can handle it, he's a pro. Go Simon!

[@ThatSpaceMann]

Seeing “The Great Vibrator” pop up at the top of my screen is an experience I never thought would happen. Yet here we are.

[@saeveth]

Especially while I was trying to cook.

[@cattymajiv]

Why would that surprise you people?

[@saeveth]

@@cattymajiv jokes are lost on you, huh? It was just a timing thing. Slicing onions, then that particular choice of title.

[@dazzlingdexter5060]

😂 lmbo

[@robertsimpson4532]

This topic is generating a lot of buzz 😅.

[@MikeU128]

In the 1990s I worked with an engineer who used a "massage vibrator" to test circuit boards for bad solder joints. It was amazingly effective! Power up the board, and apply the vibrator. If it doesn't malfunction, it passes the test.

[@akizeta]

That's what she told you, huh?

[@fjdarling]

As a retired Electrical Engineer from Raytheon I was amusingly surprised by this "innovative" idea. Based upon my personal experiences of physically tapping a circuit board with some non-conductive slightly massive object, one could briefly re-activate a malfunctioning circuit board. I'm not sure my bosses would have allowed me to bring in such an unusual "tool" to work. I'll have to try it with some future home projects I might develop. Poor solder joints are a persistent problem in circuit board assembly. Thanks to Mike U128 for the remembrance.

[@erictheis6093]

That's kinda brilliant.

[@jeffreyyoung4104]

@@fjdarling I used to use my Snap-on #2 Phillips screwdriver by rotating the driver by the shaft and letting the handle bounce on the edge of the boards or case of the suspect unit to see if the vibration would cause intermittent operation. In some cases, the problem would reveal itself to be the vias being intermittent, and I would have to bridge them with wire and solder them to repair the vias.

[@fjdarling]

@@jeffreyyoung4104 How could I not be impressed with the talents of some of the troubleshooting techniques developed by people who watched this video? Simply amazing!

[@J.MacInnes]

Not every womb that wanders is lost. (extra points to Simon for remaining professional throughout this video, ( mostly.)

[@dochappy26]

Imagine if this was a Blaze episode! 😅😂😅

[@vitorau76]

Honey I don’t feel so well again. I think I’ll go see the doctor

[@Coldend]

Someone didn't watch the video

[@simtexa]

I remember asking a particularly cynical professor of mine about what is keeping students from just pretending that their sources support their claims. He was quick to point out that not only is this really commonly done by students, but that actual scientists do this all the time too, either accidentally or as a form of falsification. The issue is that it's fairly rare to actually look up the exact wording of sources, and usually the claims are reasonably close to what is being said in the source, but over time it can gradually shift into something completely different, especially as something is a citation of a citation of a citation.

[@dashippo]

Not to mention the total number of cited materials. A singular book turns into 50 or more published papers relatively quickly, and I feel most folks just aren't up to the task.

[@valkyrie1066]

Like the game of "Telephone" which almost ALWAYS results in the information being horribly mangled, which is why it is a popular party game. Passing on innformation has GAPS.....

[@MBproduections]

my histoy teacher admitted that, during his written exams at Uni, being completely unprepared for the topic he was supposed to write about, completely made up historians that never existed. This being before the Internet, his profs then gave him an A, because they were impressed with him quoting authors that not even them knew about 'yet'.

[@cattymajiv]

But back then, there were far less papers being published, and eventually the vast majority of citations did get checked, so any falsified one would very likely be found out. Even if it happened much after the publication, it would be a career ending occurance, so people almost never took that chance. Now though, lying, cheating, and stealing are everyday things. No matter how big the theft or how severe the deception, nobody cares, and no penalty is ever incurred. So why not? It's a different world entirely. There was a gradual slide from the mostly honest world of yesterday to the pre Trump days of 2014 and 2015. But as of 2016 all the old rules are gone. The Democrat President Biden and his Attorney General Garland demonstrated very clearly that the old rules are only for dummies and poor people, by very blatantly letting Donald Trump and ALL of his thousands of minions get off scott free with EVERYTHING they had stolen and swindled, no exceptions. They did pretend to intend to bring them to Justice, but that pretence was nothing but a farce from day 1. Under the old rules, Biden and Garland would also be locked up for many years, for Obstructing Justice. But the world just doesn't work that way any more. There is just no point in even pretending to be one of the good guys anymore, so why even bother?

[@DrRenee1]

I’ve gone down deep rabbit holes trying to find the original source of a statement I found in a paper. A paper is referenced, but it cites another paper as the source, which cites yet another as the source… fifteen papers later, and I still have not found the source or a description of the experimental evidence for the statement. Frustrating.

[@mike-carrigan]

I retired from the Army a few years ago. I was in need of some specialty supplies for the section I operated in Iraq. I was searching the mass supply database to find the NSN (National Stock Number) for the supplies I needed under the medical section and I found an NSN for vibrators. It has a very clinical name, I wish I remembered it. But, there were no doubts about what it was which means I could have gone to a Supply Sergeant and ordered one.

[@MarkusMöttus-x7j]

HAHAHHAH wait WHAT!? 🤣🤣🤣 That's absolutely AMAZING! 😂😂

[@peterkoller3761]

you don´t want to tell us you DIDN´T order one, do you?

[@jimmybryan6760]

With what largesse the govt supply chain has been known to bestow on the pricing of common items like hammers and coffee makers, one can only wonder how many of our tax dollars are at work in that situation

[@valkyrie1066]

Love it. Govt issue number XYZ. It's a necessary tool. Only half the population knows how to use it.

[@ElmoUnk1953]

YUT!!! LOL!

[@timothylopez8572]

😆"He was done in 10 seconds, and it was hysterical. While I lay there trying not to laugh.......or cry".🤣

[@valkyrie1066]

LOL

[@gabriellashimone6546]

Said many an unsatisfied woman.

[@restaurantattheendofthegalaxy]

Who's responsible for the female orgasm? Is it all the guys fault if a woman can't get there in their head? This whole idea is tiring. 🙄

[@akizeta]

I saw Maines speak about her book at a science festival in 2000 or so. I greatly enjoyed the tale and repeated it as truth several times (though I never got round to buying the book). I was _so_ p|ssed off when the truth emerged, and so embarrassed. Her claims that she only presented it as an hypothesis were such a lie. She presented it as historical fact and I and many others took it that way. I have no compunction about calling it _fraud._ She wasn't telling it as a tall tale, she sold numerous copies of her book as fact.

[@valkyrie1066]

OMG. "Good Vibrations." I can see it now.....by my bet, it's the chorus that gets you evertime....."Good, good, good, good vibrations!" over thge "she's giving me good vibrations" in the background keeping up the minimal movement. Perfect.

[@042509am]

Going from Florida Man Friday to this is quite the change up hahhahaha. The fact that Simon can straight face deliver this is nothing short of stunning 🤣🤣

[@unculturedweeb4240]

Question. What happened to the Wednesday podcasts? Did they fully go behind the dreaded paywall? Or quietly discontinued?

[@Hathur]

I'm afraid to "like" this video out of concern over what the youtube algorithm will start suggesting me to watch... 😳

[@drgunnwilliams8239]

😂

[@wolfcat1998]

I gave up years ago.

[@kristinburton4953]

@@wolfcat1998 Re-find yourself.

[@TomSherwood-z5l]

Maybe you will just get more scientific videos. We will call them.

[@desmofan1864]

YOLO, as they say 😂

[@laura1443]

Cravin' Wood! I love it! 😂

[@ivonav3751]

I just love how the people commenting on this demonstrate more subtlety, verbal sophistication (I refuse to refer to them as cunning linguists!) and humor than so many responses I've seen of late in almost any other sort of discussion. It's so nice to see people just being playful for a change!

[@andreygagarin1530]

The first known patent for a vibrator was issued to Dr. George Taylor in the United States in 1869. His invention, called a “manipulating apparatus,” was a steam-powered device designed for medical purposes to treat what was then termed “hysteria” in women. It was essentially an early mechanized massager. Later, in 1902, the first electric vibrator was patented by the Hamilton Beach company, making it one of the first electrical devices available for home use-predating even the electric iron and vacuum cleaner! Though initially marketed for therapeutic uses, the evolution of vibrators' marketing and perception shifted over time.

[@davidlean8674]

Which is good thing. While possible, it is much harder to get off on a vacuum cleaner.

[@rocketruss3405]

Before she passed away in about 1990 at age 94 I remember my then 91 year old grandmother, who had retired from being an RN after about 45 years of nursing service saying, “Every generation thinks that they are the first ones to discover sex. No one is doing anything that hasn’t been done for hundreds if not thousands of years. ” 😂

[@valkyrie1066]

Research "early sex toys." Yep, we've been horny since we arrived. They've gotten more technicologically complex....but the originals are from the stone age.

[@cattymajiv]

Attitudes truly have changed though, and not entirely for the better. However, on my list of important public issues sex is far from the top. That being said though, there are still some very mixed up puritans that don't want Sex Ed in school. Many of our problems are caused by the fact that the Sex Ed we do have is nowhere near enough. It should be included every year, get progressively more complete up until grade 12, and there should NOT be any opting out allowed. Nor should home schooling be allowed to skip any part of it. Unless it CAN be proven that those kids got the same teaching as the in-school kids, the home schooled ones should be made to attend a range of in-school classes, including Sex Ed. Even if it isn't society's top priority, it should stil be very high priority in our kids' education. Absence of knowledge leaves black voids that inevitably get filled with myths, inaccuracies, and lies, all of which are VERY harmful. Women my age, 64, are still suffering from the lack of info and wrong info that we and our parners (or potential partners) were taught. Ignorance of the facts and the social implications of them has damaged many lives extensively. There would be far less sex crime of all types if only children were taught the facts properly at appropriate ages, instead of being taught that sex related things are secret and/or shameful. Making them feel that exploring their bodies is weird or wrong makes them think that they ARE weird, when in fact EVERYONE is doing it, in 1 way or another. How many rapists and serial killers would never have gotten started, if only they were taught that sex is normal and they are normal ? ! All along, sex has been taught in homes and in schools as if it were something abhorrent, that should only be touched on as briefly as possible, and that details should be avoided if at all possible. People treat it that way likely because that's how they were taught by their parents nd teachers. I wouldn't be surprised if the same prissy attitude is still being passed down much more often than we realize. And of course there are many families that don't pass on ANY of the crucial information that everyone needs to know. When the technical facts about reproduction are taught at all, in places they are taught in VERY inadequate ways. So are the equally important social aspects of the subject. And the great many myths about males and females and how they think and act. All of that lousy teaching and the myths that comefrom it need so much to be busted! That needs to change so much faster than it has been changing. And religion should not be an excuse to avoid teaching the facts. Neither should there be any parental right to deny kids from being taught the truth, on sex or anything else. Parental rights to deny the kids the truth is one of the main factors that has led to the disasterous conditions in North America, where most people can't even write a legible KZbin comment. I feel so sorry for the next generations. The Boomers (of which I am one) have wrecked the world completely. My dad, who taught in WW2, would be SOOO disappointed!

[@smfreij]

@@cattymajivtotally agree! Pretending that children aren’t curious or thinking that just promoting abstinence to high schoolers is even close to enough is harmful. I was lucky enough to receive a fairly comprehensive sex education in school starting in fourth grade. All of it was age appropriate and included the topic of consent, and sex ed in high school was a whole semester class that one was required to take to graduate.

[@gabriellashimone6546]

I'm a retired nurse and I support that statement.

[@gabriellashimone6546]

​@@cattymajivWell said! I'm GenX, we hadn't helped much in early education of our children in terms of sex and sexuality though my sister and I both adamantly taught truth and reality about such subjects to our children. We likely did because of the failure of our War Baby parents to do likewise (you weren't the first generation to drop the ball.) All we can do now is speak up and speak out in the hopes those parents not deafened by dogmatic nonsense will teach honestly and seriously what their children need to know for _their_ own well being.

[@charmaintrout174]

Noooo. This was one of my favourite myths/stories. I never believed it, but found it hysterical. 😂

[@gorgha3988]

That hysteria story is the one I always heard too, and it was always presented as total truth. So I sadly did believe it for a long time.

[@SteveDeHaven]

There was also a 1994 movie called "The Road to Wellville," starring Anthony Hopkins, Matthew Broderick, Bridget Fonda, John Cusak, Dana Carvey, and many others. In the film, a side plot (or "B" story) involves a doctor who manually performs the service in question here. I wonder if that inspired Rachel Maines.

[@pioneercynthia1]

That's really a gem. Now that you've mentioned it, I think I'll find some way to watch it again.

[@catofthecastle1681]

It’s the other way around! And this was based on an even more amazing book!

[@Invictus_Terminus]

Even though I have a naturally dirty mind. I find this fascinating. The fact that we are still dealing with misinformation even now in todays world speaks volumes to the lack of trust in the sciences. I just don't understand why people of any background wouldn't want the truth. And also that people would actively spread misinformation knowing it was a lie.

[@Fevebblefester]

The truth can set you free. And this terrifies some people.

[@julietfischer5056]

And our discomfort with sexuality and sexual matters. It may seem strange to say this, given how much of our entertainment and advertising is driven by sexual titillation, but very few people seem able to discuss even the most inoffensive topics without embarrassment. So, when that underlying base of 'everybody knows thus and such' collides with new information, far too many people feel their beliefs are under attack.

[@edwright480]

You really need to say 'misinformation about women' as that is the topic. Misinformation about the sciences is a different topic.

[@recoveringsoul755]

It is legal for the US government to use propaganda on its own people. So there is plenty of misinformation and lies out there. Many of my comments are immediately hidden by YT from sense or ship (spelling wrong on purpose). I'm never sure which word isn't allowed.

[@Supersteffy]

9:50 I remember reading "The Yellow Wallpaper". It's a fabulous read, and I HIGHLY suggest it. Very short read.

[@diamondndaruff19]

Great tour. My wife and I loved it. I’ve been following you for a long time and have always enjoyed your tours. My wife and I tour locally around Arkansas USA and you continue to inspire us. Thanks for all you do.

[@melissapinol7279]

My grandmother was born in 1898, and her father was a Victorian small town doctor. One of the things she inherited from him was a very early vibrator ( I've seen it, I don't remember if it still worked) that fit on the back of the doctor's hand. She said it was used for "massage" but as her dad did not massage sore backs it makes me kind of wonder if this theory might have been true in some cases.

[@simtexa]

I'm fairly sure that even if it was probably not considered an appropriate form of medical treatment, people almost certainly knew that vibrators worked for that back then and if a patient and a doctor were in any way intimate, it's sure they would have 'misused' these things. For as long as humans have made tools, they have been using them on their genitals.

[@CryptoKernels]

Most cases

[@trappenweisseguy27]

Sausage shaped vibrators were still being sold for “massage purposes” well into the 1970’s.

[@valkyrie1066]

There are a significant number of people who COLLECT old vibration devices from antiquity. I have been to two "demonstrations" in the sex positive community about the early developments. Saw some really, really old ones! (they also cover violet wands) Very interesting! The explainations on the boxes are the funniest part.

[@cattymajiv]

There were genuine hand held massagers for sore muscles used by doctors. For many, or even most of them, it probably never even crossed their minds to try using them on the genitals of anyone, even themself. Unless maybe they had heard rumors that it would do something, but that kind of thing was considerred very weird back then, if not even sinful. So it isn't likely the one you saw was used that way.

[@trixinreno419]

Nice transition from "dubious citations" to they don't make your feet stink because 'trust me' (paid ad) I didn't have any issues!

[@courtlandbates2683]

Thanks for keeping us in the buzz.

[@valkyrie1066]

LOL....points.

[@suegodfrey9676]

Help!! I feel hysterical!! 😂 ❤ Boom chica bow wow!!!

[@leholen381]

Banning sex toys is gross governmental overstep. Even if the cases get overturned on a technicality, they will still be able to win on a different argument.

[@tealkerberus748]

It's the ongoing theme in US law - does a person born with a uterus own their own body, or are they actually the property of the state? A consensus indicates that they are in fact state property and not free citizens, and therefore the state will dictate what they must and must not do with state assets.

[@Pucknuckle]

The most ironic thing is that the governments interested in trying to do so are voted in by people who will say they voted for them because they believe in less government control...

[@BrettShadow]

I can't speak for every state he mentioned but I can speak for Texas. They aren't "banned". In fact every Walmart had a toy/lube section.

[@charlesbryson7443]

@BrettShadow I’m sure this is more about the other “choice”. The one that affects a body that isn’t theirs, but is in them.

[@etiennesportfolio]

In my country it's not banned but you can't buy from other countries as a citizen, only businesses can and they need a ministry of health permit which makes sense but still

[@catatonicbug7522]

Thank you for this fact-check video! I have now emblazoned "void" across the document in my mental filing cabinet that contained that historical falsehood!

[@valkyrie1066]

Living is learning. We have to correct our previous perceptions all the time.

[@nullc0ntext]

All hail the Hitachi Magic Wand!

[@murder.simulator]

It's a back massager! No really😀

[@valkyrie1066]

*bow* We're not worthy......

[@recoveringsoul755]

Mine broke after one use. It was the original too, not the remake

[@charlesplante]

16:23 "Cravin' wood" I'm slain, I'm deceased, I'm roflcopter'd in my coffin!

[@AfroRedMusic]

Throwback! 😂🙌🏽

[@wanderingspark]

C S Lewis coined a term for this: chronological snobbery. We want to believe that we are more advanced, more intelligent, and therefore, superior to those who came before us.

[@gabriellashimone6546]

Lewis was incredibly astute. He often highlighted our tendency toward unfounded arrogance and foolishness masquerading as courage.

[@josephdean3801]

I bet 100 years from now, people will look back at our medical practices with similar disdain!😅

[@craigpoer]

It's wild how many men have tried to figure out women

[@cbdy1358]

Texan here (and former cop) I don’t think those obscenity laws are either around or just unenforceable due to the Texas V Johnson case. It’s not that hard to find a sex store here and also a few years back Dallas hosted a porn convention. Dallas tried to ban it but were ultimately unsuccessful 😂

[@tullochgorum6323]

Well then, they should take them off the books. The problem with laws like that is that they can be used an excuse to harass people for other reasons. Say a corrupt sheriff is targeting an opponent and they find a vibrator during a home search. If he's close to the prosecutor they could use that to make their target's life a misery, even if they eventually lose in court.

[@TheSteveBoyd]

Not "Texas v. Vibrating Johnson"?

[@cattymajiv]

This is going to be abused a lot! I guarantee it. And as always, the rich will get away with whatever they want, while stomping all over the poor.

[@julietfischer5056]

@@tullochgorum6323- There are hundreds, if not thousands, of outdated laws on the books. I've sometimes thought that there should be nonpartisan committees formed to examine law codes and determine which laws are still viable. Say, in the year 2025, the committee examines the laws passed in 2015. By that time, passions have cooled and the effects of the laws are known. Amend or eliminate those laws. Now, there has be a committee to also examine all the laws passed _before_ 2015 because of the centuries of laws passed before then.

[@tullochgorum6323]

@@julietfischer5056 True - but most of these old laws are relatively harmless. For example here in the UK we still have a statute dating back to 1313 that forbids the wearing of armour in Parliament. The problem with laws that criminalise behaviour that has become common such as owning a sex toy is that they can be used by malicious prosecutors to target pretty much anyone they choose to harass. There have been a couple of recent examples in the US where such laws were weaponised in small town disputes. At the very least, there should be a movement to strike these laws from the books. It's strange how US legislators, in the so-called land of the free, are so keen to dictate what people do in the privacy of their own bedrooms...

[@giselematthews7949]

Thanks for clearing that myth up.

[@RobertBernard-s8m]

Craven Wood?????? I love it Simon.

[@mizFahrenheit]

Don't forget the fantastic movie "Secretary", Maggie Gylenhaal and James Spader.

[@vernicethompson4825]

Leave it to Simon Whistler to produce a video on this subject! I would add that vibrators were marketed in the 1960s, 1970s and even the 1980s as "marital aids." It was the sexual revolution of the 1970s and 1980s that finally brought vibrators out of the shadows and openly marketed as "sex toys" and "vibrators." The rise of sexually oriented magazines like Playboy, Penthouse, Playgirl and Cosmopolitan as well as X-rated movies that popularized vibrators and other sex toys for both women and men.

[@petesmitt]

Teenage girls have abused hairbrushes and vegetables for a long time..

[@randyhavard6084]

Good to hear you shout out Our Own Devices, he has some great videos

[@CartoonHero1986]

I could only imagine trying to ban the sale of something like a vibrator today. December 31st Vibrators are banned January 1st sale of electric toothbrushes soar!

[@tealkerberus748]

Considering how the wand of my toothbrush makes my jaw feel if I bump my teeth with it, they would definitely need some modification before being used as a sex toy!

[@zellipa]

T.C. Boyle's The Road to Wellville is a great read, and the movie is pretty good

[@dougbotimer8005]

Love to hear more about violet wands and similar medical devices and treatments.

[@FallacyBites]

Ugh. Keep all that antique electric stuff Far Away From Me. Let braver people than I play around with getting zapped. Sorry, someone in my past got ahold of xa violet ray, and while he did take 'no' for an answer, it was only 'eventually'. Seriously, humans, 'boundary' does NOT mean 'challenge'

[@LongNickOfDaLaw]

Ohh how I wish I could have been showing someone my phone when this popped up 😂

[@elliotdryden7560]

Don’t forget “The Road to Wellville”. Anthony Hopkins, John Cusack, Bridget Fonda, and the incomparable Camryn Mannheim Steamroller! Muahahahaha!

[@skeptik212]

Love that Simon went all business blaze on 16:31 today I found out.

[@SatelliteExile]

bro you can't go from craven wood to VIBRATODE, I'm dying over here

[@mikeysrose]

I loved seeing a little bit of Brain Blaze Simon popping out to laugh at "James Craven Wood." 😂😂😂😂

[@neilgoodman2885]

>>For those of us who have followed you over the years, this was an amazing tale, and thank you so much for it. >>I am simply gob smacked because I thought like every one else, the vibrator was the product of what the world ***KNEW*** was correct. >>So, Thank you again for the amazing truth. >>Of course thank you to those academics who did the heavy lifting, as I wish I had in my youth, but never earned the "D" of anything.. >>Respectfully Serene, NHG.

[@petergarin6278]

😘🫠

[@mukulnag1578]

I still don't understand why vibrators and other sex toys are still a toboo and banned in india... Doesn't make any sense, its just very backwards. Atleast they are still sold just with higher prices and false names

[@cattymajiv]

Hippocracy drives me nuts! I could understand conservatism if it was applied fairly, but it's always the rich doing whatever the f*ck they want while the poor are oppressed. Every Single Time.

[@TomSherwood-z5l]

Right now America is in the grip of drone hysteria.

[@valkyrie1066]

I prefer vibrators. Unless, of course, they were combined. A flying vibrator rushing to you at the moment you need it. That I'd be good with.

[@Raymo2u]

The drones look like Jetson One's. I'm going to laugh my ass off if they are a legal company giving "flying car" tours. It kind of makes sense if it is. That's why nothing is being done about it.

[@davidbgooch9587]

Don't worry they will try to ban them next

[@colinmcdonald7591]

Excellent video and narration. It's a "touchy" subject for some for sure.

[@lindareed8265]

Well done, Gilles Messier. Thank you for talking about why these myths are harmful.

[@chrisf6612]

How did Simon manage to do this whole piece as serious as a car crash until 16:32 with "He's craven that wood"

[@isaacbenrubi9613]

Factboi comin in hot with this one

[@andyv16012]

This is the first time I've injured myself trying to get to my remote 😂

[@peterkoller3761]

remote for what? a "pelvic drone"?

[@_CharStar_]

​@@peterkoller3761maybe to rob its AA or AAA batteries

[@andyv16012]

@peterkoller3761 🤣 pelvic drone, I'm stealing that one.

[@rithvikmuthyalapati9754]

16:23 Simon laughing is the best

[@realityjunky]

1:18 That still is from A Dangerous Method, not Hysteria. Both were terrific films, released in 2011.

[@valkyrie1066]

On my watch list now.....

[@kristinmary4025]

@@valkyrie1066right

[@adreabrooks11]

"People like to be told what they already know. Remember that. They get uncomfortable when you tell them new things. New things…well, new things aren’t what they expect. (...) In short, what people think they want is news, but what they really crave is olds." -Havelock Vetinari, "The Truth" byTerry Pratchett

[@DarkLink606]

20:36 The moment I saw this picture I burst-out laughing, uncontrollably, literally cried. I don't know why I found the drawing of the Victorian gentlemen so hilarious, but I can't remember the last time I had a laugh like this. Thank you, Simon Whistler, for (non-sexually) stimulating my tear ducts.

[@marthacoomber3188]

Flogging the dolphin? Don’t you just rub its nose?

[@erictheis6093]

Depends on the guy, methinks.

[@valkyrie1066]

Depends what KIND of dolphin your're petting.....

[@Nyctophora]

Thank you for dealing with this seriously. Also, I never thought I'd see one of them on KZbin, where you can't even say d-e, let along talk about little deaths.

[@Antechynus]

They used to be steam powered.... let that sink in ....

[@julietfischer5056]

It would have used pressurized steam through a valve, so nobody go Rule 34 with a locomotive.

[@replaceablehead]

Hysteria is probably more real than the psychoanalytic concepts of borderline or histrionic personality disorders and arguably less insulting to women. Edward Shorter included hysteria in his "history-based DSM," which aimed to list only mental illnesses that had stood the test of time, regardless of whether they are currently recognized. Neurasthenia survived as late as ICD-10 and also has some surprisingly solid foundations. The basic observation that various mood disorders and cycloid psychoses have a hormonal diathesis gives rise to the idea that there could be softer forms subtly influenced by factors unique to females. The most well known examples today are postpartum depression and PMDD.

[@darkcrystalmagik3369]

As a sufferer of PMDD (diagnosed over 2 decades ago), who also experienced almost 18 months of PPD that nearly drove me to suicide, describing these disorders as a more "soft" mood disorder/ mental illness, feels inadequate, & could seem invalidating to those in the throes of it. They fact that such conditions are more temporary than other mental conditions, doesn't comfort or lessen the toll they take on women who feel their minds, their autonomy, their very lives to be destroyed, or stolen, by the inescapable cycle. Such is the severity of symptoms that if women did Not get a reprieve when hormones fluctuate, I wouldn't expect most sufferers to escape eventual suicide. The # of suicides/ attempts with these conditions are still grimly high.

[@stellamcqueen4809]

​@@darkcrystalmagik3369I have PMDD too. I am so thankful for being able to advocate for myself while being my normal, functional self! I can't imagine trying get help while dealing with a non-cyclical serious mental health disorder. I agree, the states we are in during episodes would be insufferable if constant. Even knowing the next one is coming up in a few weeks makes us desperate. I'm sorry for your PPD - eighteen months! Beware perimenopause, it can hit people who have had menstrual issues harder. My PMDD has got so much worse but I didn't know the symptoms of perimenopause to realise. HRT is possibly helping both.

[@valkyrie1066]

Hysteria: Frustration from not being listened to or given any pleasure. Deny pleasure; you have hysteria.

[@BirdRaiserE]

(Sees title and thumbnail) what a terrible day to check my subscription feed

[@elfpimp1]

Now do "A History of the Condom" and make sure Vessi is the ad read! 😁👍

[@pinky75910]

Saw a documentary on this - a good story

[@valkyrie1066]

Seems appropriate! LOL

[@andyv16012]

You had me at hello 😅

[@DrunkenHotei]

The idea that "pelvic massage" was considered a non-sexual act would imply we would have expected such activity to be common in public.

[@rithvikmuthyalapati9754]

You mean "not considered a sexual act"

[@valkyrie1066]

Yes, that.

[@Heulerado]

Wait, does this mean that the 1837 Dr Swift's Fine Gentle Massage ad poster is fake too? Or is that an outlier? I've been googling for hours, but to no avail! Some versions are definitely fake, some look convincing, and goddammit I want Dr Swift to be real!!

[@edenelsworth591]

Having been diagnosed with autism at the age of 50, and ADHD at 51, and understanding how that lack of diagnosis earlier led to being diagnosed with anxiety, depression, and suicidal thoughts, I have wondered since how many 'hysterical' women had the same or similar neurodivergencies.

[@Joseph-z7s3b]

The fact that Simon keeps a straight face for the whole episode is proof positive that Simon is in fact an A.I. construct.

[@scarecrow8004]

16:28 ... well, not quite the whole episode. Let's hear it for James Craven Wood.

[@Joseph-z7s3b]

@scarecrow8004 James Craven Wood...I wonder if he's any relation to Dick Upinya?

[@codyraystrimple5659]

As a native Texan that owns more than a few toys, the obscene device law is basically only a convo starter about history. I’ve worked in a couple rubberPP stores, and cops go in allllll the time to buy stuff for their naughty-bits.

[@dewaldbooysen5282]

Haha, if true. It`s not hard to see why Doctors started prescribing it as a treatment for everything.

[@MiladySteph]

1:18 This screen shot is actually taken from a film called "A Dangerous Method". Not "Hysteria".

[@30yearsagonow]

It’s fascinating how myths like this can persist for so long! Makes you think about how much of what we "know" might be based on shaky evidence.

[@deavman]

Damn it Simon! There goes my practice...

[@sassyscrofa1972]

That part about James Craven Wood had me roaring. 😂😂😂🤣

[@EGSBiographies-om1wb]

Merry Christmas to the staff of Today I Found Out as well to the TIFOnation.

[@KatePortice]

Love your usual deadpan delivery on any given topic Simon ❤ .....never had use for one of these ( vibrators ) myself ...always preferring the REAL thing ....but had several gal freinds who swear by them lol .....to each thier own 😊

[@linuxophile]

I knew about and read the Sokal paper. As a mathematician, it was DELICIOUS. He got a lot of heat for the hoax. But, man, what a masterpiece!

[@pioneercynthia1]

Do you have a source for that paper? KZbin hates links, but if you're clever, you can kinda sort it out.

[@linuxophile]

@@pioneercynthia1 Should be the link below. It is a google away (wikipedia). Look for the title: "Transgressing the Boundaries: Towards a Transformative Hermeneutics of Quantum Gravity" www.physics.nyu.edu/faculty/sokal/transgress_v2/transgress_v2_singlefile.html

[@linuxophile]

@@pioneercynthia1 Posted. The fantastic genius is that he understood how these publications are essentially a "ChatGPT" of verbal nonsense, strung together in enticing prose and long sentences. I am sure today's LLMs could produce infinitely better papers than many that are routinely accepted in the social sciences.

[@itsallspent]

Craving Wood. Was good friend of mine was bull frog😊

[@MK-mt4kn]

This has me wondering about the Kama Sutra. “Everything was known….” “But nothing was known…” “But….” That’s an old book. “The patriarchy never understood how the female body worked,” is also a long-standing idea/stereotype. They seem contradictory. (Alternatively… worlds apart-or at least, continents.) It just raises so many questions.

[@Bubbaist]

I’m watching this at work. Actually I’m listening to it with earbuds, as I really don’t want someone passing by my desk to see this. My phone is behind my laptop.

[@birdlawyer6191]

If you're signed into their wifi they know what you're watching already.

[@zapper302]

I am on my second pair of stormbusts., I wore right through the bottoms. They are the best shoes for living in the Lower Mainland of BC, and anywhere else.

[@merlin_XY]

Maybe the corsets were too tight.

[@OperationBaboon]

there are museums in Europe where you can see much older vibrators, with various mechanical methods to make them vibrate.

[@TheMistersnoid]

Shatzburg? What a tragic moniker

[@ecospider5]

Peer reviewing papers has no professional or financial benefit. We should start paying people for proving a paper false. And if it was found to be maliciously and deliberately false maybe there should be a fine.

[@tariq_sharif]

What a great idea ... like some companies will pay a bounty for discovering vulnerablities in their software

[@ecospider5]

Great example

[@cattymajiv]

What an EXCELLENT IDEA! Especially since AI frauds will be everywhere now! As underfunded as they are now in Canada, the universities will have to create new positions for this. We have been trying for far too long to imitate the disasterous American way of doing things. Bcause of that, the entire system is teetering on the brink of collapse. It's time to join Europe, and to tell the US to fuck right off.

[@cattymajiv]

Editted version: What an EXCELLENT IDEA! Especially since AI frauds will be everywhere now! As underfunded as they are now in Canada, the universities will have to create new positions for this. We have been trying for far too long to imitate the disasterous American way of doing things. Bcause of that, the entire system is teetering on the brink of collapse. It's time to join Europe, and to tell the US to #@$% right off.

[@michaelmoore7975]

Anybody remember _"The Road to Wellville?"_ The doctor who practiced "womb manipulation?" He was quite popular.

[@doctornova3015]

John Harvey Kellogg, the guy and his brother that invented Corn Flakes.

[@cattymajiv]

The whole thing was well known long before that movie though. Some people actually still read books. Sadly though, according to this video, books are not as trustworthy as we had assumed. I have never once checked every citation in a book. It's likely that I haven't even checked the majority of them in any 1 book.

[@michaelmoore7975]

@@cattymajiv It's a trickle-down effect of trusting those we perceive to be the authorities of a given field. They accept a set of findings. We trust them. Ergo, _we_ accept the findings. It becomes accepted as fact. Then 1 day someone comes along and says, "Did anybody actually check..." Thankfully though, most bad science is caught early on, and the ones that slip through the cracks are eventually exposed.

[@user-dv6gt5iw4b]

Hi Simon, I'm surprised that you completely left out the research done by Masters & Johnson in the 50's and 60's. This video needs some serious revision.

[@cattymajiv]

As well as the research done by Shere Hite in the 70s, published in a books called The Hite Report. There is one each on female and male sexuality. They were then, and still are for me, the most informative by FAR of any research on human sexuality, even more so than the research by Masters and Johnson's (which indeed was very good). This is because M+J's thinking and writing is very heavily influenced by the "medical establishment" thinking of the time, but SH's is not. I forget what her qualifications were, but I believe she wasn't a medical doctor. Her work was done professionally as she surveyed vast numbers of people and compiled the results into her 2 books. The contents are nearly all just the results of those surveys, in numbers and representative quotes from the survey subjects. She does add some interpretation, but keeps it very neutral. She's not flogging any particular point, just filling in glaring gaps that all others have failed to address. Although she doesn't criticize anyone, if I remember correctly. Her work has a ring of truth or realism to it that is obscured in M+J's work. They seem to be talking to the medical establishment, but SH seems to be talking to me (or to us.) Some criticism can be given to both groups in some ways for being slightly less than scientific, but in this case and for my purposes, that is irrelevant. To have spent huge amounts of time, money, and effort on conforming strictly to the scientific method would have been unnecessary, and maybe even harmful to the effort. I did very much appreciate M+J's work which was truly very groundbreaking at the time. But Hite's work was also very groundbreaking, as she elucidated very important ideas that they didn't even touch on. Without leaving professionalism behind, Hite's books feel much more human, and they pass on truths that nobody else has ever touched on (that I'm aware of). It's truly shocking that her books are not still celebrated. They (and M+J) should be fixtures in every high school library. I had not then had my eyes opened so much on any subject, and I still have not, right up until now. Both of Hite's books are well worth hunting down. Amazon can often get books that are out of print, and I recommend both of Shere Hite's books to everyone, especially her "The Hite Report On Female Sexuality."

[@everettputerbaugh3996]

Comment re: Shoe Advert. Although I reside in the central U.S., I do know what Wellingtons are. I also know a vintage U.S. term for the 'rubber overshoes' -- rubbers, easily enough. If one goes to a Fleet-Farm store, they will use "Muck Boots" as those in the U.K. would use "Wellies" (both are brand names). -- Just a little something for the algorithm.

[@kennethnielsen3864]

Thanks for sharing.

[@ag135i]

Are you selling any good quality ones?.

[@ericshelby8813]

I live in Texas, and my state does have a ban on the sale of sex toys, which was called "facially unconstitutional and unenforceable" by a judge in 2008. It wasn't technically overturned and is still on the books, but enforcement is rare, and with the advent of the Internet, enforcement is not only impossible but laughably ridiculous.

[@stancil83]

22:40 Hey Arnold got his doctorate. Nice.

[@NakedUndone]

I remember hearing about "hysteria treatment" long before I read Maines's book.

[@cattymajiv]

Although things have improved a bit, the medical system's attitudes toward women are still egregiously unfair! Like so many millions of women, I have been 1 of those accused of being "hysterical" and "hystrionic" when I was in fact (and still am) suffering from a genuine crippling and progressive disease. The disease ruined my life, but it would not have been nearly as bad if I had not been seen and treated as a nutcase for over 10 years, and left untreated the whole time, while being insulted and attacked for "making it up", and for it supposedly being "in her head" or "a result of stress". Since there was no internet, I had to go to the University's medical library to research, and to finally make my own correct diagnoses. It was later discovered by me that my neurologist and family doctor were in cahoots, and though they both knew I had MS, they chose to hide that fact from me, and leave me to watch my life fall apart and my disabilities progress faster than normal, so they could punish me for my insistence that something was really wrong! Who gives a d*mn about the origins of the vibrator, except as a way to shine a light on this MUCH BIGGER ISSUE. Kudos to Simon and company for bringing it up, but they don't emphasize enough how much pain and damage that incompetent attitude by doctor's has caused. The word paternalistic fails to describe the damage done by such EXTREME incompetence that has surely driven so many women to suicide, as it almost drove me.

[@MrMan-f9c]

I remember adverts for the "non doctor" being quite frequent in the latter pages of magazines

[@PacesIII]

Mains' claims fall mainly on the veins.

[@maxsalmon4980]

The claims of Maine were mainly made in vain?

[@PacesIII]

@maxsalmon4980 Good one

[@jamesthompson7282]

Thanks for this; great video.

[@GeeTrieste]

Remember the movie "The Road to Wellville" Had an arc in there related to this.

[@niceozyguy]

Some of the stuff in that video was hilarious😂😂