The Greatest GPUs (of 2017) | Vega 64 vs. GTX 1080 Ti

[@IcebergTech]

ERRATA: 22:53 I messed up the charts. The red bars are actually the 1080 Ti, the blues are the Vega 64. *sigh* I thought I was having a good day today, too.

[@ArkoAncelo]

appropriate year. into the trash your vid goes then

[@pretizco3679]

still readable and your dialoge clarifies very well, fine by me...

[@AlfaPro1337]

why is a normal series of card compete a Titan killer? RX Flop series/Flop VII competes against the Titan V/RTX.

[@emiliovalencia1618]

The value in the 1080ti comes from being in sync with game development which is, as you know, made for consoles and then ported to PC. The 1080 despite its higher price and lower price/performance value relative to the time of launch- is still an absolutely amazing value. The card still runs modern games at 1440p. So due to its longevity: it’s a better value than the Vega.

[@emiliovalencia1618]

… and runs them well. You may not get ray tracing but you can still get very acceptable FPS even at mid/high settings at 1440p.

[@NOM4D20]

OMG I remember what big of a decision was for me, to pick the Vega64 or the 1080TI. I ended up with the 1080ti, because I got a really great deal, and that card lasted me 6 years, until it finally gave up. I had 0 intentions to replace it, but it stopped working, so I had no choice...

[@prashantmishra9985]

What do you have currently?

[@adi6293]

Yeah what did you go for?

[@Derively]

Rest in Peace for the legend.

[@NOM4D20]

@@prashantmishra9985 7800XT, which isn't that bad, but nowhere near to the 1080ti. I stopped being a full time photo/videographer, so CUDA wasn't a necessity, and I'm fairly happy with the AMD card.

[@NOM4D20]

@@adi6293 7800XT

[@The11devans]

Remember "wait for Vega"? That was the first proper letdown I've had in the hardware space

[@gamingedition5165]

Yup and never amd after that absolute waste of money.

[@tukokmukok8751]

I mean, AMD was in a pretty shitty situation around 2015-2017, Imo was pretty clear they wouldn't win the crown that gen

[@LUNATIC75]

Oh yes... Being still an AMD fanboi at the time, I did indeed 'wait for vega'... and when it arrived I promptly bought a second hand 1080! I'm still using a 1080ti now, as most of my games are CPU hogs, but I accept that the card is showing its age and I do need to retire it next year. It was money well spent though!

[@erisium6988]

till this day amd fanboys say that with every ryzen and radeon its funny how nothing ever changes

[@lautarobeheran]

Ryzen is superior in any sense lol

[@FirleFarms]

Wasnt the vega 64 supposed to compete with the 1080? The 56 against the 1070? The 56 was actually a good buy for a short while before the mining community found out the performance of them for mining. It caused team green to launch the 1070ti since they couldnt have the vega beating the 1070. I had a vega 56 bios flashed to vega 64 for a short while. Currently running a Vega 64 with a 3900x. I miss being able to do all the fun things with GPU's back then that we sadly cant anymore

[@AJ-jq3hm]

Just found your comment. I commented the same thing. Would've preferred the 64 vs 1080 because I distinctly remember these two gpu's being competitors while the 1080 ti was in a league of its own.

[@bigsnyder01]

This is correct, The Vega 64 targeted the 1080 market, Vega 56 matched up with 1070.

[@ZackSNetwork]

Yes and Vega 64 was never known for being one of the greatest GPU’s either. Most people recommend Vega 56 undervolted.

[@bigsnyder01]

@@ZackSNetwork true that they do, but it was usually because Vega 56 was much cheaper for 85-90% of the performance at stock. Vega 64 also benefits from undervolting granted 56 usually demonstrates a larger percentage gain if you could feed it enough power.

[@anasevi9456]

not originally, but yeah Vega 64 was supposed to be a 1080 competitor and 56 1070. What is never ever acknowledged in any of these retrospective reviews is the near omnipresent Nvidia tax back then in most markets. Even before the 2nd crpyto boom truly kicked in, trash tier AiB 1080s were over $200 more than a Vega 64 launched for in my country, and 1080 ti were twice the price. So not so GOAT when looking back at all the retail scalping going on for Nvidia cards when Vega launched. Then the 2nd mining boom and EVERYTHING s*cked a big one value wise.

[@emmyjaeger22]

I'm surprised you compared the Vega 64 to the 1080 Ti. The Vega 64 cost like 400-500€ here in Germany, the 1080 Ti around 800€. The Vega 64 competed with the GTX 1080 (non-ti), and the Vega 56 with the GTX 1070. There wasn't really a competitor against the 1080 Ti from AMD back then.

[@erisium6988]

and what was the competitor back then? (he even asked community if he should test vega or 5700xt community picked vega) Both were flagships then released. U wont compere 4090 vs 7900xtx because they dont have the same price? AMD fanboys never will get old. AMD since pascal never did gpu that had price and performance of nvidia flagship, yet u have to pick something to compere so u choose the amd flagship. And no 6900xt isnt 3090 competitor nor vram, nor bandwitdh, nor technology, nor performance, nor price its was bad its cool now because its dirt cheap.

[@classicgameover]

@@erisium6988 you sound like you're super angered by AMD. dunno about you but the entire RX 6000 series was actually competitive, even all of the way to the top end, and the RX 6900 XT was no different from that

[@FirleFarms]

@@erisium6988 AMD didn't have an answer for the 1080ti. You could argue the Radeon 7 but that came out too late, and even AMD 's own 5700xt beat it in some games and absolutely smoked it in efficiency. As for the 6000 series it was competitive throughout the whole stack so idk what you're trying to say really?

[@novocainDaimon]

@@erisium6988 You don't always have to compare the top products of two companies. You generally compare the same price range. Thats how it was done in the 90s, 2000s and these days. Calling someone fanboy just because (s)he doesnt do as you would like him to do, makes you the angry twat, not them. In terms of performance per $ RDNA1 was quite competitive and RDNA2 definately was. Without ray tracing, the 6900XT is pretty comparable to a 3090 in terms of rasterisation performance. Sure, NV has the better upsampling with DLSS and I'm glad I dont have to use FSR. But the raw performance IS comparable at a lower price. So that makes you the raging Nvidia fanboy...

[@anasevi9456]

That's way better than it was early august 2017 in Australia when Vega launched. Vega's could be bought from PLE Australia for $670aud, other retailers had them for $700. Meanwhile GTX 1080 plains were $900-1000aud and 1080ti's were $1,400-1,500aud and make all these videos worshipping value ring hollow to me. Nvidia tax was just terrible. But hey don't fret nvidia fans, 2nd Crypto boom made Vega a terrible value too only a month later!

[@Heru3005]

Bought my slightly OC'd edition Gigabyte AORUS 1080Ti at launch for $750. Have not regretted it once. Granted, it's been relegated to the living room PC for a couple of years now, but it still pull's solid frames in everything I throw at it. Nearly 8 years later. The longevity of the 1080 Ti is the thing that truly makes it the GOAT. Imagine trying to game with the old, and equally legendary, Radeon 9800 Pro 8 years after it's launch.

[@TheVanillatech]

A friend of mine won £30k on the bingo (I know ..... lol) one night, about 6 months after the 1080Ti launched. Right in the middle of the Etherium mining boom, he bought a 1080Ti for £1150 to replace his GTX980. At the time there were zero Vega64's on Earth ... being so good at mining. I guess they would have been priceless. Even the RX580's were selling for over £500 here.

[@Heru3005]

@@TheVanillatech The UK got absolutely shafted during the crypto-boom. I'll admit I got really lucky twice that year. First with the 1080 Ti, and then with an RX480 for my daughters PC. Got it for $200 at a big box store right off the shelf. I beat the crypto explosion by about a month all told.

[@TheVanillatech]

@@Heru3005 Yeah the vast majority of the stock always gonna end up in the USA. There was instant shortage over here. It came down to the GT1030 being the ONLY card available for months, and even that cost £100+. I did ok cos I play older games. I waited till prices normalized, or at least - as close as it ever got again. Then I got my daughter and myself an RX5600XT each. It was lucky though cos that was in November and the following January? COVID! XD

[@dankvader420]

After all this time, the 1080ti can still be a great low-budget option for 1440p/144 gaming…we'll never see such a generation again.

[@GrumpyWolfTech]

if you are playing games made from that time period, it plays 4k games fine. I did it for the whole life of the card.

[@dankvader420]

@@GrumpyWolfTech Yeah you just have to play with the settings to be able to pull it off with more modern games, though 4k can be tough for this card nowadays.

[@pcmasterracetechgod5660]

So can the Vega 64, it performs way closer to a 1080ti than shown in this video especially when overclocked. But OC aside, he was using a very hefty custom cooling system on the 1080ti, not fair at all

[@dankvader420]

@@pcmasterracetechgod5660 Would be interesting to see a similar thing on the Vega.

[@GamingAndUSAIsDeadCuzFarleft]

sadly.. and why ll never give nvidia my $$$$ ever again...nvidia ABANDONED US GAMERS! F**CK EM!!Only way id buy Nvidia again, is ....... they would have to release a $800usd RTX 5080ti 32GB GDDR7 (Basically the RTX version of the GTX 1080Ti 11 GB (5080 Ti 22GB GDDR7 @ 352Bit bus width just like the 11GB 1080ti) OR ( similar RTX 6080) for $800 352 bit (preferred 384Bit GDDR7 32GB GPU) or 20-28GB if possible

[@OrilliousTyr]

Great stuff as always Iceberg! I found your channel through your first Vega 64 video a few years ago, because I had just picked up a used Nitro+ Vega of my own. I got lucky and it undervolts pretty well. I've upgraded to an Asus TUF RX 6800 since then but I kept the Vega around and now it lives in a rig I built for my girlfriend. That PC also has the R5 5600 I had been using before getting a R7 5700X3D.

[@andyshtroymish4997]

Oh yeah!!! At last, the legendary fight!

[@TomiWebPro]

Oh god Yesterday saw both come creap on secondhand chinese market and today is a Iceberg review, Godda love Iceberg

[@Endermanfrey]

The Vega's use of HBM makes it a pretty interesting card, especially when tech like hbcc is in use. However, the 1080ti is just a beast and makes it barely a competition.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

HBCC exist because AMD only put 8GB on Vega 64. but back then even AMD recommend HBCC to be turned off by default. it's a incomplete tech.

[@MasticinaAkicta]

Vega 64... I heard so much about that BEAST of a GPU

[@WyvernDotRed]

Both cards shown here are legendary for different reasons, which is impressive. Funnily enough my phone used to be from 2017 until recently, when I had to replace my Moto G5 as it's 2GiB RAM and Android 7 could not manage multiple to me important apps any-more. Also a legendary phone, in the sense of being very unremarkable but respected as a sensible pick, a last holdout with replaceable battery and headphone jack. For me, the Vega 64 is the GOAT as it's the card still powering my desktop to this day. I am power-limiting it to 150W and not even feeling a need for an upgrade, aside from the lacklustre video encoding. (Of course) I did re-paste it, that is more as I simply do not need more performance from it. It's such a weird and unique card that works well as a somewhat efficient budget GPU.

[@Pisica_Comunista]

You should add kingdom come deliverance, as I remember it needing a powerhouse to run at higher settings.

[@RainMan52]

still have my GOAT socketed in and still playing my favorite titles

[@mctrillion]

My Vega 56 lives in my worstation, holds up shockingly well for 1080p AAA gaming.

[@adi6293]

I had a Vega 64 Nitro , it was actually quite good , I stupidly bought a 4K monitor to go with it so it wasn't fast enough , I should have just stuck with 1440p at the time , other than AMD messing up with the drivers back then I don't have many complaints towards it , and it looked sick ! :D

[@excess.subiefl0w]

Both of these cards offered me a fun time gaming as well as alot of coins mining ethereum on both and monero on the vega when the algorithim was cryptonote good times

[@fafa267]

Dang, vega aged extremly well. I didn't buy into all of this futureproof-ness back in the day, I thought amd fanboys were just on copium, but here we area - the gap is way closer than I thought it would be. In eu there was really good deals for both vega 56 and 64 - at some point it was twice cheaper than 1080ti.

[@pvtcmyers87]

Awesome vidoe with a twist ending! 😉

[@joannaatkins822]

Hmm, you're currently at the Forbidden Number of subscribers Congratulations on the funny Internet number, Nice

[@CompatibilityMadness]

Wait a minute... LOWER is better for cost per frame, right ? So... @22:55 - 1080 Ti = 2 wins, RX V64 = 1 win @23:00 - 1080 Ti = 1 win, RX V64 = 2 wins @23:07 - 1080 Ti = 3 wins. RX V64 = 0 wins OVERALL win cost/frame = GTX 1080 Ti (6 vs. 3) My friend... you f***ed up ;)

[@IcebergTech]

Lol, you're right, I did... but not the way you think. I got the key and colours wrong. I mixed up the Vega and 1080Ti results. Here was me thinking I'd got through a whole video without making a cock up...

[@CompatibilityMadness]

@@IcebergTech No worries :) Glad that at least you don't have to redo cost/frame summary.

[@Nelevita]

Funny thing is my Radeon Pro 7 Cards since then working in my severs split up.Replacing it seems quite hard because Vega loves to give them 4 or more things at once and sucks at gaming for the power.

[@ravipeiris4388]

When I purchased my Cyberpower PC in December 2019 sporting a Nvidia 2060 Super, I was stunned to see how the 1080 ti had benchmarks that surpassed my 2060 Super despite the 1080 ti being several years older ❤.

[@Khloya69]

Only 1 gen older, and like 3 or 4 tiers above.

[@Pasi123]

The 2060 Super is only 2 years newer

[@Dima_eh]

bro, when is the video about the legend 2070 super?

[@TheLoki1983]

Did I miss it, was bl3 on badass quality?

[@johnquigleyiii7685]

Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil 3 got next gen patches which added FSR 2.

[@raresmacovei8382]

FSR1*

[@F_A_N_A_T_yhasniy_YT_update]

Was MSAA anti-aliasing enabled in Total War: Warhammer 2 and which version of DirectX was used?

[@awaiswasi354]

as an AMB boi, i have a huge respect for 1080ti. it was the only nvidia GPU i ever had, and i frickin loved it. wish i could say the same for current gen nvidia GPU'S but nah, they've lost their charm.

[@hellmalm]

Ingmar Bergman start awesome! -"I'm death!"

[@Reknilador]

Although my 3060ti is faster than the 1080ti, it still feels like a thorn in my eye cause of the 8gb of vram, and RTX is a feature I don't use because I find it useless. So yeah, considering todays standards, the 1080ti is still extremely usable and a great card with a lot of headroom for vram still.

[@Josue31627]

GTX 1080 TI too much of a monster. The fact that the Vega 64 can even kinda sorta hang around is pretty impressive. Were they direct competition though? I thought it was Vega 56 vs GTX 1070 and Vega 64 vs GTX 1080. Or was it more "competition" like the RTX 4090 vs RX 7900 XTX? Speaking of which, I am curious if the Vega 64 can beat the GTX 1080.

[@snipeez1ify]

I recall that the Vega 64 was more often compared to the 1080, and same for the 56 to the 1070. Those are where the price and the performance matched, and traded the lead depending on the game. Just how like next gen the 5700XT is really closest to the 2070 super in price/performance.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

"The fact that the Vega 64 can even kinda sorta hang around is pretty impressive." vega was touted as 1080Ti killer before launch. in the end the card only compete mostly with 1080 that launch a year earlier.

[@juanme555]

The *GOAT* remains undefeated!

[@RotcodFox]

What is the most powerful card that uses 130 watts or less? Is the 1660 Super the only one?

[@Pasi123]

RTX 4060

[@m8x425]

Yeah, unfortunately it's the RTX 4060 if you want a card that consumes 110w-130w. At least it's a lot better than the 1660 ti or Super version, and it comes with DLSS and DX version 12.2 too. The only thing that holds the 4060 & 4060ti back is 8GB of VRAM on a 128-bit bus.

[@mraltoid19]

When you do the RX-5700XT vs RTX-2080-Ti, try to look for the Navi10-XTX based, RX 5700 XT 50th Anniversary. It's clocked a bit higher, so should compete better with the 2080-Ti. I have an RTX-2080 and an RX-5700-Vanilla, and found them comparable. I don't think the XT is going to punch high enough to hit the Ti though. But, AMD may win out on price, as the 5700-XT was less than half the price of the 2080-Ti. At the time, the 5700XT was seen more as an RTX-2060 competitor, but I really think it should be considered closer to the RTX-2080-Super...without RT of course.

[@alexg9155]

I had a 50th anniversary overclocked as high as it would go, with hardware mods and whatnot. It was barely beating a 2070 super, 10.000 flat on TimeSpy Graphics Score. So, not a 2080ti competitor, not even a 2080 competitor unfortunately.

[@TheVanillatech]

Vega64 cos the same as the GTX1080 if I recall? With the 1080Ti being £100(ish) more expensive. Similarly Vega56 cost the same as a 1070.

[@pupyboy7788]

I hope a video for the Radeon vii(7) comes out with r.i.d drivers

[@MichaeltheORIGINAL1]

A Radeon 7 vid would be dope!

[@pupyboy7788]

@@MichaeltheORIGINAL1 agreed 100%

[@IcebergTech]

Eh, it's only 9 months since my last Radeon VII review video. I might do a 2025 video, once I've got a completely new set of games to try it with

[@pupyboy7788]

@@IcebergTech i replied a similar response in that video anyway great video

[@Turboman_64]

My 1080Ti died this week x( i would continue using it, as it was still more than good enough for anything i was throwing at it.

[@get-in-2-get-out774]

I was expecting most newer games; Theres not much else to see testing old cards with older games.

[@Mistericek1]

your underrated

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

Even second-hand, the 1080ti is still supported by drivers, which is more than can be said about the GCN era. Even with that said, nvidia's greed is compelling me to beg for AMD to actually bother to make an RX 8900 tier card (as of this writing, the rtx 50 series hasn't released yet). Even if I have use for 4090 levels of performance, I don't have rtx 4090 money, and trying to amass that much for _a single graphics card_ is psychologically impossible.

[@m8x425]

AMD is supposedly not going any higher than the RX 8800xt.

[@phamquanghuy2222]

Pascal was so great that Nvidia never made that mistake again 💀

[@wearefromserbia9714]

My Vega 64 sometimes black screens and hyperventilates randomly in games. I find it weird since i can run Furmark and Superposition benchmark for hours and not a single crash. Did anybody have the same problem?

[@m8x425]

i did with my Radeon VII, but only when I undervolted it too low. It was just a matter of a couple millivolts though. I don't have any problems with the VRAM/HBM and the interposer. A lot of these Vega cards die or malfunction due to the interposer frying. The Interposer links everything together, and this is non-repairable. From what I've seen of the Radeon VII, it seems cards with HBM that's made by Hynix has a higher chance of frying than ones with Samsung HBM. I'm not sure if that's the case with the Vega 64.

[@wearefromserbia9714]

@@m8x425 hmm, very possible. Will try to flash stock VBIOS, maybe the last owner flashed mining bios or something, probably undervolted to low. Also somehow its capping to only 200w power, wont go any higher. Did you have similar issue?

[@madxD144]

Do rx580 next

[@shrishpotdar343]

90% of the capcom games work fine dude, and rockstar is also good enough and most of their games generally dont break so easily

[@RobloxianX]

Cant wait for "The Greatest GPU of 2018". Which will just be the Titan RTX because AMD didn't release a high end GPU in 2018

[@MisterKrakens]

Fury X/VEGA/RADEON VII all these weirdly named cards that nobody bought

[@sladkyhermelin3756]

weird thing is that second hand market is flooded with vegas. id say even more than 1080Tis... seems like miners got fucked and need to get rid of their stuff

[@erinradach3990]

I got a Vega 64 for 100 usd, can't say I'm disappointed with it for the price. Still woulda been cool if a 1080ti fell into my lap, but as a poor, it's kinda always been pricier than I could justify.

[@anasevi9456]

@20:00 Russia not Ukraine, Stalker series is the Ukrainian one.

[@IcebergTech]

I’m arguing that the Metro games were similar to Crysis, in that they were deliberately made for future generations of hardware at the time. This is a philosophy that was shared by Crytek, the German developers of Crysis 1, and Ukrainian studio 4A Games who developed the Metro series. Despite being set in Russia, Metro Exodus is a Ukrainian game.

[@LukeTheJoker]

Frames per dollar the Vega may win, but the 1080ti will stand up better to the cards coming in the next episodes.

[@LaurensPP]

My 1080TI still going strong.

[@PCZONE1]

Nah GeForce 8800 gtx was a bigger leap and more legendary card

[@m8x425]

True. Almost a 100% performance uplift over the 7900 GTX When making an apples to apples GPU comparison, Kepler was also a massive uplift over Fermi. It was so good that Nvidia decided to stagger the GPU launch, but the GP100 was not ready and it became the GP110

[@PCZONE1]

@@m8x425 also moving from dx9 to dx10 moving to a unified shader architecture and some future games showed 200-300% performance improvement as well not to mention it was still a fair price for a massive uplift in performance and it was the best card at the time of legendary can it run crysis realese so many good things I can say about the GeForce 8 series but you had to be there to know, when everyone goes on about 1080 ti being the best card just doesn’t know sure it was great but it wasn’t the single greatest release.

[@Sithhy]

Despite me having a 6700XT currently, I still want to have the 1080Ti paired with the 5800X3D for a legendary combo

[@ArkoAncelo]

appropriate year. into the trash your vid goes then

[@idanshahar]

LIKE for Ahti

[@bowdlerise]

Ethash

[@bismuth7730]

The fact they tried to push workload architecture GPU as gaming GPU is awfully similar to what AMD CPU division is doing now with zen5. Zen5 was clearly an architecture created with EPYC in mind and are now trying to sell it as a gaming architecture.

[@HcHand-xu9fd]

Nah, i still think ryzen 4070 is better

[@IcebergTech]

Seen this a couple of times now, what am I missing?

[@GamingAndUSAIsDeadCuzFarleft]

fun fact . teh EVGA 1080Ti SC2 Hybrid 11GB was my Last Paid for Nvidia GPU.... Iv bought AMD Ever since..... Screw nvidia and their AI Company Bull$h!t, Nvidia WOULD NOT BE WERE THEY ARE TODAY IF IT WASNT FOR US GAMERS IN TEH FIRST PLACE WHEN 3Dfx Was still around.... if nvidia did what they are doing today.. 3Dfx may stil be here today, and nvidia may not be! to bad we will never know

[@GamingAndUSAIsDeadCuzFarleft]

vega was never meant for gaming

[@DevilMayCry_BR]

Vega was never meant to be used in a gaming board, it was a request from Apple to use in mac workstation machines (cheese grater), it's just a miracle that it can run games by brute force :D

[@dy7296]

Fair point. Might explain why it has HBM. Although I'm not sure about the R9 Fury having HBM too. And yes, HBM does proven to serve little to no advantages in gaming and only offsets away the budget from the gpu core itself. Which is why they switched by to gddr6 from then.

[@RobloxianX]

Vega was made for the iMac Pro. Not the Mac Pro

[@mitsuhh]

@@dy7296 Not really. HBM is superior to GDDR. Just that it's cost prohibitive to add

[@dy7296]

@@mitsuhh Yea the improvement to gaming is negligible in proportion to the added costs. Especially when games weren't as vram demanding as they are now.

[@arenzricodexd4409]

@@dy7296 because AMD want HBM to be the mainstream memory for GPU replacing GDDR memory altogether. they hope as time goes by HBM will get cheaper like it was with GDDR. but it did not happen because of the more sophisticated nature of HBM compared to GDDR.

[@user-yv2cz8oj1k]

It might be the powerhouse, but the true brick of a GPU, the Nokia 3110, is the RX580, as long as you can actually keep the things cool they just keep going.

[@ShockingPikachu]

I swear some places in China are still making those lol

[@soli-ethd]

I've moved to a 6750 XT for my main system but put my RX 580 in my "HTPC" (more of a ChimeraOS-based game console) and it's still absolutely chugging along like it's a brand-new card playing the games I play smoothly enough (at least 30fps, but more often they play at 60fps).

[@ruinedlasagna]

​@@soli-ethdAre you me? I have a 6750xt in my main PC and an HTPC running Linux with an Rx570 & 4690k. It's more capable for games than I thought it'd be

[@Pasi123]

@@ShockingPikachu The Chinese ones are often the "RX 580" 2048sp which is just a slightly higher clocked RX 570. I have a GTX 1080 non-Ti in my main PC and my "HTPC" has a RX 470

[@saricubra2867]

@@ShockingPikachu RX570s, the RX580 has 2304 cores, not 2048.

[@Hi_Im_o2]

1080 Ti 11gb 3080 10gb 💀

[@dy7296]

exactly why 1080ti is such a great release

[@mitsuhh]

"but but vram doesn't matter"

[@thewhiteknight9923]

3080ti 12g😶

[@erisium6988]

u can see it in both 1080ti and 3080, the gpu will be too slow then game will need more, especially that both of these cards are no longer 4k cards and with every resolution drop u need less vram. Then games at 4k will need more than 10-11gb 3080 will be 1080p card as its already 1440p card atbest (not really as 4070ti is 1440p and its 3090 perf with framegen and better RT perf)

[@ZeroHourProductions407]

@@mitsuhh *PlayStation PC ports, Ubisoft, and graphics modders for Bethesda games* would like a word with you 💀💀💀

[@cavedon.felipe]

I never truly recovered after my Vega 56 died.

[@XionLuis]

1080TI is a mistake Nvidia is sure to never let happen again

[@arenzricodexd4409]

1080Ti is not a mistake. the problem is AMD unable to keep up with the hype. nvidia create 1080Ti in preparation to the much hype Vega 64 the "1080Ti killer". nvidia even cut 1080 price by $100 and then price 1080Ti at $700. when people see this some even said that AMD Vega must be extremely good to make nvidia so scared shitless to the point they willing to officially cut 1080 price (something that is very rare for nvidia to do) and did not charge more for 1080Ti.

[@mclarenf1gtr99]

Got a video suggestion for the i7 9700K. The only intel 8 core no HT CPU, best CPU for gaming back then. I can't find a video with games from 2024.

[@IcebergTech]

I'll put it on the list

[@GoatingVirtual]

My 8-year-old laptop with GTX 1060 still holds to this day, but I can not maintain it anymore because the RAM is showing errors. Got a new(ish) PC with a GTX 1080 Ti and fairly great specs for 500 Euros and it runs perfectly for me playing older games.

[@TheBcoolGuy]

1080Ti is better than what I have. I'm on Devil's Canyon with a 1080 and still consider that a pretty modern PC, even if part of my brain is starting to understand that it's not anymore.

[@dankvader420]

I feel the same about my Ryzen 5 1600 PC. I find it hard to believe it's been 7 years since that CPU came out, it surely doesn't feel like it…

[@AncientED5]

​@@dankvader420it's not even supported by windows 11 😔 you'll have to upgrade cpus next year

[@HunterTracks]

To be fair, hardware requirements have stalled quite a bit over the years as compared to 2000s and 2010s. Even weaker GPUs like RX 580 and GTX 960 can pull their weight surprisingly well in all but most demanding of modern games.

[@dankvader420]

@@AncientED5 Well, there are ways around it, plus I'm not planning on using Windows 11 on that pc anytime soon.

[@TheBcoolGuy]

@@HunterTracks And modern AAA games suck anyway. Not that I really game anyway.

[@mr.electronx9036]

My second old RIG with GTX1080 and 4790k...makes so much fun to play with, even in 2024.

[@HD7970]

I have 2 vega 64 engineering samples. They are still great cards for being as old as they are.

[@Brux-_-304]

My 2017 Rx480 says hi 👋 still chugging away running like a champ

[@bloodgoat]

Couldn’t afford the 1080ti and got a 1070ti instead. NOT DISAPPOINTED

[@dadgamer6717]

Really love these ! Thank you! 750ti was how I got into desktop pc gaming from a laptop / console as didn't need a power supply and just plug and play in a second hand office OEM.

[@ecchichanf]

Vega 64 is too weak. Radeon VII what be the real challanger, but AMD was too late.

[@AvroBellow]

This isn't even a fight. The GTX 1080 Ti is the G.O.A.T. and Vega was a flop. The GTX 1080 Ti is to GPUs what the Ryzen 7 5800X3D is to CPUs. That Sapphire Nitro cooler was carried over from the R9 Fury. I still have one of those.

[@connivingkhajiit]

Sapphire is one of the best card vendors. I have several generations of them that still work, and all fantastically. Really great build quality. I hope in the future they consider making some cards for ARC.

[@quintrapnell3605]

Your channel is small enough to die. You need more content for the algorithm. Techtubing is expensive. There's a threshold to breach to make it worth your time and everyone else's.

[@EdZimmerman]

I am a proud owner of a Gigabyte aorus GTX 1080 Ti Xtreme edition 11G. I was ready to give a Like for this vid. But after a listen to his conclusion: No, thank you for this vid but I must hit this useless Unlike-Button. 😢

[@FireFalcon]

Im still very happy with my Vega 56 (Unrelated) especially after replacing the thermal paste, adding K5 Pro for the thermal pads, and undervolted with R dot ID drivers.

[@sladkyhermelin3756]

i have strix VEGA64 and i love it, i got it for 90$ used, did the usual cleaning and repasting and i added 2 120mm fans and now it runs at 330W at 70°C. i undervolted mine but with not exactly great result, mine cant push more than 1640MHz at 1120mV.

[@FireFalcon]

@@sladkyhermelin3756 90 used, sweet, I got mine for 250$ many many years back. The moment you tweak them they become better cards

[@stark3855]

This video is wrong, the real rival of the 1080ti was the radeon VII. The vega 64 fought with the Gtx 1080.

[@excalibur8800]

The legend himself GTX 1080 Ti !!!

[@mercurio822]

The radeon 7 should be the competitor not the vega64

[@gettoecoding1058]

I have battling to find a FE 1080 ti, managed to get a GTX 1080 FE which I was really impressed with, at the time I upgraded from a R9 380x to a RX 580, as I was being a cheap ass. But even benchmarking that GTX 1080 recently in budget build video I did about 2 months ago, I was really impressed how well it does in todays modern titles even. Need to keep a look out for a decently priced ti version, has to be FE though, well for me anyways

[@mss75094]

3:21 Wait, there was a GTX1060 5GB?!?

[@IcebergTech]

Yup, same spec as the 6GB but with a drop in memory bandwidth.

[@brzimtrco6142]

Why don't you put graphics settings in these benchmarks? We can only see the resolution

[@mclarenf1gtr99]

He is most probably using High settings.

[@IcebergTech]

It's in the "test conditions" section at 4:36 All games were tested at the High preset if present, or manually set to high if not. The exception this time is RE2 Remake, which I explained in the voiceover.

[@IronicTonic8]

I remember when I purchased my 1080 Ti in 2017 it was the most I had spent on a graphics card ever and I heavily debated it for a couple months before making the purchase. 7 years later I'm very happy with my decision. Something about it seemed too good to be true at the time, and now I understand why. It really is the best GPU of all time.

[@mitsuhh]

my 4080 is better

[@TrulyToxicGaming]

@@mitsuhh no shit sherlock?

[@ravipeiris4388]

The release dates on some of the graphic cards listed in some of the graphs are incorrect, at least for the US market.

[@lonniemurray4742]

At $549 MSRP the Vega 64 was priced to compete with the 1080, not the 1080 Ti.

[@maroosagaming]

he really went with the worst possible x3d cpu for these

[@chedds]

He got it in a sale, and let's be honest, isn't as the 7900X3D would bottleneck aggressively in any resolution higher than 1200p

[@AJ-jq3hm]

Wasn't vega 64 supposed to be a 1080 competitor while the 56 meant to be a 1070 competitor? I wish you had compared the 64 to the 1080,instead of the 1080 ti, because I don't remember the 64 ever being considered a "goat". The 1080 on the other hand is very highly regarded to this day. So if you really wanted a radeon for this comparison , the 64 vs 1080 would've been great, as the two were touted as competitors.

[@t1cken]

The other day I was thinking about how things are going with progress and how many people this "progress" will be able to apply to games and video accelerators. And then I came across this video, I was finally inspired to conduct a retrospective (2016-2022) using the example of the GTX 1080 vs. RTX 4080. Keep in mind that I am another armchair analyst with open source tools, if you have a comment, feel free to leave them. I take tests from those years so as not to put the system as a whole in a more advantageous position with some 7800X3d. First: $599 MSRP, 2K resolution, ultra, AC Origin 2017 - 89 average FPS. Second: $1200 MSRP, the same resolution without any upscaling (the first one does not have one), the same ultra, AC Valhalla 2020 - 120 average FPS. The fee is almost twice if we take into account the inflation, taken from my ceiling. Raw performance is 34.83%... For a more fair comparison, I took two games of the same series in the year of the GPU release: GTX 1080, 2016, Infinite Warfare. 2022 - RTX 4080, MW2. The rendering pipeline has not changed much, more load on the cpu and on faster data exchange via SSD. The same preset to allow developers to choose all the items that they count as "ultra". 1080: 87 avg FPS. Second: 98 avg FPS. Once again, the difference in MSRP at the time of release is two times. The difference in raw performance of the current gen is 13% rounded. My conclusion: Are we paying for technologies? For RTX, which was tried and almost immediately turned off, but this was counted in the statistics of active RTX users? For what happened in 20? Inflation at the level of small dictatorship countries? For me, this is "tightening the screws" and trying to test the market "how much are people willing to go into debt just to buy our new product?" A sad situation 😢

[@GrumpyWolfTech]

I had the card, unfortunately I had a evga version which literally died on me 3 times, every 6 months on the dot I had to RMA it, eventually I got sick of it and after the 3rd RMA I got a MSI 2080ti and it was a solid card for over a year until I upgraded. The card itself though it was very affordable. I paid around 650 at the time, which was nearly half the price of the next flagship 2080ti. I loved this card and would have kept it longer if EVGA didn't make garbage cards, glad they died.

[@ChadKenova]

Would’ve liked to seen the Radeon Vii instead of the 64. I know most people don’t have one but i bought one at launch i like collecting gpu’s. Still one of my favorite looking cards. I would like to see 1080ti, 2080, Vii shootout.

[@t3amb4sh]

After moving to a 4080, my 1080Ti is in my HTPC, capable of doing some serious 1080p gaming from 2021 and back.

[@Maltebyte2]

I still run my gtx 1080ti founders in 1080p to this day with 60fps ultra settings in most games.

[@bartdierickx4630]

Vega was a 1080 gtx competitor. Performance and price were in 1080 non ti bracket. We all know 1080ti was miles ahead in 2017-2019. It would be interesting to see how it fares against vega64 beyond their relevant era. Simply to test the bogus fine wine claims of AMD fan boys.

[@D.Feenstra]

Pricewise the vega is a clear winner though, available around 100 euros whereas the 1080ti would cost at least 175

[@jkbtw293]

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[@JohnDoe-ip3oq]

Vega 64 is not a TI competitor, the Radeon VII is the TI competitor, regardless of time released. AMD was just late, and the 64 was a normal 1080 competitor. Also, it was more difficult to buy AMD during mining, and I don't think there was any reason to upgrade a Vega to a 5700. The real winner was Vega 56 buyers, who could overclock to 64 levels, and had better performance longevity than the 1070. Vega 56 was the GOAT of AMD back then, while the TI was Nvidia's goat. Also, Vega supported HBCC, and did NOT hit the 8gb Vram wall like Nvidia did. Vega also supported a smooth video feature that got you 60 fps video playback which was amazing on old movies like Star Wars despecializd, and while AMD denied users new driver features, you still can run lossless scaling, and driver mod ReBar. Also, Linux drivers can unlock features like raytracing and run better than Windows.

[@ronchum5178]

Do you have plans to take this into the RTX 3033 / RDNA 6000 series? Feel free to disregard this question if you think it'd be spoilers. *edit* Oh, you just did a video featuring a 3080ti, and you already have a 6900xt. You're definitely doing it 🤣. Fruck yeah!