The GREATEST Home Theater Demo Room I've EVER Heard | 11.8.6 JTR | MWAVE 2024

[@barnabasnemeth3552]

Nice masking tech. My all time fav aspect ratio is 2.20:1. It’s perfect for every type of shot. And probably for almost all kinds of stories. It doesn’t chop off the top half of scalps in close ups, and it’s not so wide in the mid shots that it makes the subject feel lost in the room all the time.

[@tonyfarr480]

Great Content and Video... Extremely Informative

[@hatoraidcowboy]

@tonyfarr480 Thank you!

[@stekelly1980]

I'd love to see how the set up was done in the av receiver as I'm a little confused as to they set up the crossovers etc

[@paulupton7698]

I am surprised that there were only five hundred people attending. I imagined the attendance numbers would have been far higher than that.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Probavly will be next year

[@barnabasnemeth3552]

I just jumped to certain places in the video so sorry if my question was already answered in it but… what signal are the amps feeding into the wides? As far as I heard their are currently almost no titles that have wides in their mix. Is it a mix of the front and side surround? Or is it just one if these channels again?

[@hatoraidcowboy]

I think the Storm up mixes to the wides.

[@abhileshm7216]

Can this sort of experience come to India ? Anytime

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Never say never! 🤷‍♂️

[@erod9088]

That room is fun, but ridiculous for home theater unless you've got 8,000 cubic feet.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

The point of the room is the experience what’s capable.

[@erod9088]

@@hatoraidcowboy Fair enough, but I can do that at an IMAX or Dolby theater. I want ideas for MY dedicated room, not a concert hall. It's cool, but wildly impractical.

[@RyanMelena]

@hatoraidcowboy Thank you for the masterful editing that made me appear less nervous and stammering than I really was!

[@hatoraidcowboy]

LOL Thanks man. You did great! Total pro! Everyone did great. Thanks again!

[@dan_hitchman007]

I still find it sort of funny that with all this awesome and expensive equipment, some still choose to use "Ready Player One" as Atmos demo material. It's not even much of an Atmos track with very little happening in the overheads. It's also mostly a 7.1.2 static encoding. The same with "Top Gun: Maverick." Very lazy Atmos mixes.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Interesting. I have to disagree with you on RP1. While it might be static there is some very good activity in the height channels. The race scene gives you the kitchen sink with full dynamic range. Is it played out? Maybe….lol but still a great demo to show off your system

[@dan_hitchman007]

@@hatoraidcowboy The activity almost exclusively comes from the lower four surround speakers (given it is mostly a bed channel mix), believe it or not. Only the Top Middle speakers engage for spot effects every so often. You can see it on Trinnov's Atmos viewer plug-in. If you want a demo of actual Atmos 3D audio, there are sequences in "The Guns of Navarone" 4k that blow RP1 and Maverick out of the water. Plus, it utilizes all the speakers because the objects are allowed to pan in every direction giving you a much more immersive experience.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Who attended MWAVE 2024? What did you think of this JTR room?

[@scottmckenrick]

I had a blast at MWAVE. Excited to see how Jeff can one-up himself next year.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

@scottmckenrick That’s mind boggling to think about lol

[@RyanMelena]

I'm a little biased but I sure enjoyed it! :)

[@hatoraidcowboy]

@RyanMelena Lol Like Reggie Jackson once said: “Sometimes an artist just needs to admire his own work” 😉

[@stitch1007]

I enjoyed the demo enough I brought a set of those speakers home with me.

[@michaelslocumbsr.2286]

I wondering if Jeff will place two or three Subs behind the screen next year... There's usually no Subs in most JTR exhibitions behind the screens. MWave 25, here we come...

[@triplerinse]

I feel the Ascendo room was the better room. Yeah, the jtr had base but it was too hot for my taste.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

That’s fair. Everyone is different. I was the opposite. I expected more bass from Ascendo with 16 16” subwoofers. Still sounded good though.

[@RobZelinka]

@@hatoraidcowboyWhen I first heard Ascendo subs for the first time, I had a similar reaction to yours. After hearing JTR subs, I expected more from a massive infrasonic sub and large kick subs. As I started to talk to more people about why they chose Ascendo over JTR, the theme was quite common. As I understood it, Ascendo aims for a more natural approach. The best way it was described to me is we know what it is like to experience an airplane flying over our home. Where JTR just feels more violent, the same airplane example just feels more impactful than in a real world experience. I would submit that most want that more violent and impactful sound. I thought I did too until I kept auditioning other Ascendo rooms and felt the level of clarity and detail from those rooms was unsurpassed. That aside, I am not sure what the Ascendo 16s were compared to, and if they were paired with a larger infrasonic sub or running solo. I would submit it is not a level playing field to compare the 16s to the JTRs. Now if you add an infrasonic to the mix, you likely have a closer comparison.

[@RobZelinka]

Great review of this highly coveted room. Great mix of hardware, seats, etc. I am sensing the alliances are forming. I am starting to see more and more JTR/ Storm rooms and of course still see a lot of Trinnov/ Ascendo rooms too. I would welcome thoughts from those who heard both rooms. Not necessarily looking for which room is better but how did the rooms differ?

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Thanks Rob. Unfortunately I didnt get to see Grimani’s room 😩

[@RobZelinka]

@@hatoraidcowboy oh wow, missed opportunity. As a Chicago Cubs fan often says, there is always next year

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Yea hopefully!

[@papahuge]

motion ai = nvidia frame generation?

[@sammy10001]

Matt is a crazy elite calibrator

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Yes he is!

[@patternboy1]

Hatoraid Cowboy, wow another great video and interview, you're the best...! I enjoyed your content on the MWave2024 - great job...!

[@hatoraidcowboy]

@patternboy1 Man thank you so much!

[@Snskch3]

I went. The JTR room was powerful! I have a JTR cap4000 sub so I was excited to see this mammoth theater. Super powerful. I have been debating on upgrading my speakers to the noesis 10s or 12s.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

That would be a cool upgrade!

[@Bailman1002]

To hear audioholics talk about the JTR room it was third best with too much low end. 😛

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Gene wasnt there though lol

[@Limpit_ca]

Did they mention why no subs where accompanying the LCR?

[@hatoraidcowboy]

No they didnt. Good question.

[@JeffRobison-d2b]

I am bummed I missed the demo. Since I was working as an exhibitor I was limited on time to go experience demos. Next year I will be making time.

[@johnwaugh8633]

That room sounded amazing! I heard things in the ready player one race scene that I don't hear on my own system

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Right?

[@johnwaugh8633]

@@hatoraidcowboy I hadn't heard the sparks when her motorcycle slides under the semi. Or at least I didn't hear them as much on mine.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Hmmm. I need to go back and watch that scene and look for it.

[@scruffy8861]

@@johnwaugh8633 Can you provide a timestamp, i'm really curious to run it in my HT to see how well the sparks come out.

[@brucecarter6205]

Best room at the show for me. Crazy bass!!

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Same for me!

[@online_screen_name]

Awesome detailed coverage. What was the amplifiers they used for that room?

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Thank you! I’ll try to find out.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

From Jeff Permanian: “JTR amps. Prototypes. Hoping to launch end of the year. 2000Wx4 and 1200Wx4.”

[@online_screen_name]

@@hatoraidcowboy that sounds super tempting! Thank you 🙏

[@hatoraidcowboy]

@therianstrauss You’re welcome!

[@nemakis]

I don't know if the multiple subwoofers can contribute to the sense of moving bass, since the low frequencies are not easily detected spatially, but....The neighborhood otolaryngologist thanks you very much.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

🤣

[@bingdong8571]

I think Jeff could have fit some floorstanders on the ceiling for atmos. He had to show off his atmos specific speakers though. Maybe next year

[@hatoraidcowboy]

😂🤣

[@Echo-jg8is]

100s of people are saying how good this room is and how good that room is, yet not one bloody person I've asked knows the price of the completed rooms. 😬 How much is this room for example including professional installation 🤔

[@hatoraidcowboy]

For all the speakers in the room: $90k - 10% package discount = $81k. Barco is $105K with the lens. All the other gear you can pretty much find the pricing online or contact a dealer

[@Echo-jg8is]

@@hatoraidcowboy So over a quarter of a million dollars all in 🤔

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Oh yea at LEAST. I’d say that room is at least 300K and that’s being conservative.

[@CarlVanDoren61]

​​@hatoraidcowboy Decided 2 channel w 4 towers extra SPL No HT bells & whistles, simple

[@MyFatherLoves]

@@hatoraidcowboy And this is all without the most important element (besides the design and calibration).... room treatment. Not even the JTR room had room treatment in it. Which is a little startling to say the least. 300K and no room treatment. Unless I missed it somewhere?

[@DUDETHEATER]

all i can say is wow

[@doyleshafer]

So it WAS pretty good : ) Yeah I don’t think Jeff is gonna let up at MWave

[@hatoraidcowboy]

If he brings more speakers next year the place is gonna fall apart lol

[@tkcdac]

I think this is the best video I have seen you do man!! Informative and you really nailed it with the B roll and interviews. Thank you!

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for the continued support!

[@JLudwig06]

Minutes into this video and all I'm thinking about is going in 2025!

[@hatoraidcowboy]

I know right? I’m already fiend-ing for a 2025 announcement!

[@paulupton7698]

Perfect for any home!

[@NicolaeLorimer]

Nice video, did Jeff mention the details on the amplification?

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Thanks! I didnt get any info on the amps

[@deezyperformance]

I must be the only one that thought the subs should have been hotter in the JTR demo.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

LOL 🤯 You must not like your ears 🙃

[@Scott-Kat]

I really enjoyed myself

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Me too! It just keeps getting better every year.

[@matta9316]

This was well done bro - nice editing work

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Thank you!

[@e4superfly]

wow what storm audio is doing is awesome 👌

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Yup!

[@HomeCinemaJunkie]

Keep up the great work Hateroid!

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Thank you!

[@whatadifferencecc]

Great Demo....

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Thank you!

[@davonfranklin5158]

Great vidoe.

[@hatoraidcowboy]

Thank you!

[@BUZDRIFT]

Doing similar to what Anthem & Krix do with their Waveforming tech!?