The Greek folk Instruments - Σάζι (Full Album//Official Audio)

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[@Chris-xb7gm]

interesting istrument. But it's not folk Greek, neither has ever been part of Greek istrumentation. Greek folk istruments are Violin, Clarinet, Mandolin, Lyra and Lute. We could possibly include Boouzouki. Sazi is definitely not

[@achilleuspetreas3828]

Bro, absolutely not. Sazi is definitely part of Greek folk tradition, especially in Asia Minor. The instruments you mentioned are only the more popular ones, and clarinet is extremely modern and a much more recent introduction than the Sazi. The Saz, Tambouras, and Boulgari are all apart of the same family and they have been played by even heroes in the Greek War of Independence. Look at the older iconography and you will see it played as well. There are so many more Greek folk instruments that have been played in Greeks for hundreds of years, like the mantoura, toumpeleki, askomandoura, bendir, kanonaki, etc. Half of the instruments played in the middle east and Turkey were played by Greeks during the Byzantine Empire. Hell, the bouzouki came from Asia Minor to Greece in the 1920s and was an evolved Sazi

[@Kermit1040-T]

​@@achilleuspetreas3828well, saz or bağlama has been Turkish for the centuries, pardon me millenias first Saz ever being the Kopuz, it just changed little shape which is normal considering it's been millenias since the introduction of Kopuz but i dont see saz being used in 10th century in Greece, because the Turks werent there to do culture exchange

[@Kermit1040-T]

​@@achilleuspetreas3828 Heck even your instrument name "Bouzuki" comes from the Turkish word Bozuk which means broken, modified. why would you give it a Turkish word if Turks werent even there? because Turks called that instrument Bozuk, and you guys kept it just like how you guys kept Baglamadakis which comes from the Turkish instrument Bağlama. Bağlama literally means "to tie" because strings are tied to instrument, you cant make it yours just by simply adding -Dakis at the end

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​@@Kermit1040-T If you want to look for original Turkish cultural elements you should probably look at the Turkic tribes of Russia(although they probably are not without any other influences nowadays) and East Asian peoples ,things more west belong in a cultural sphere of people who've been having exchanges in Hellenistic and Byzantine Empires +Islam.(Check Faraji Farya channel if you haven't already). As the Turkic tribes expanded in Central Asia they assimilated local cultural elements(including saz) and peoples ,then they were further influenced by Arabs/Islam who themselves basically copied Byzantines ,even more Hellenization/Byzantinization happened as Turks expanded in Anatolia. As for names that's what happens in an empire where there's a certain dominant language ,America has a bunch of ethnicities who bring and invent things but all end up having English etymologies.Human mind is simple according to linguistics and evolution of words , a person won't sit down and ponder what he should name something he made he'll name it after its closest thing( en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_language ).As a simple thought expirement I can tell you I just made my own string instrument that no similar one exists ,can you very quickly think of a new name with no words/roots that are usually associated with such instruments but that will also make others understand what is it just with the word?

[@achilleuspetreas3828]

@@Kermit1040-T That's word concept fallacy with both the Sazi and Bouzouki. The word Sazi comes from Turkish saz which originally came from a Persian word for a nearly identical instrument, is it Persian and not Turkish or Greek now? Of course not...likewise, the many European lyres don't come from the Ancient Greek lyre even if the name is derived from them. Greece has the gaida, tsambouna, askomandoura etc as local varieties of bagpipes...just because tsambouna is derived from the Italian name does not mean the instrument is Italian in origin; we have bagpipes in Ancient Greece long before the Venetians ruled Greece. And we do see a nearly identical instrument to the saz in the ancient Greek and Byzantine era...it's called the pandoura, or trichordion, the latter being still in use in Greece today as a name for it. We literally have a marble slab of a centaur playing one from Lamia Castle in Greece 500 years before the Turks ruled. Even the word Tambur ultimately comes from the word Pandoura, but that does not mean it is a Greek or Sumerian instrument...it's a Turkish instrument. The Persians, Turks, Greeks, etc. all have instruments that are nearly identical to each other and have had them for thousands of years. A name change does not imply a change in the actual thing. This happens all across the world with more than just instruments. The saz hasn't been played by Turks for thousands of years...I'm sorry. The saz looks far more similar to a pandoura/trichordion or a thambourin than a kopuz. The saz evolved in modern day Turkey in it's final form but that's it. The saz, tambouras/thampourin, pandoura/trichordion, kopuz, tanbur etc. are all similar and go all the way back to the original lutes of the Sumerians. The saz is far more likely to be a local Anatolian evolution than something from central Asia, the latter being only taken seriously in nationalistic Turkish circles.