The Grisly Victorian Railway Murders You've Never Heard About

Investigating the most notorious murders ever to take place on the British railways. While this technological marvel may have had enormous positive impact in connecting the nation, it also provided crime with a new arena to enact its dastardly acts upon.
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[@lisadolan689]

I’m happy this is an actual documentary as opposed to a podcast pretending to be a documentary 🙂

[@jrmckim]

Docuseries

[@Raventooth]

How did they know I was going to bed.

[@Amanda-yf7vj]

Now you have to stay up and watch it!!

[@Raventooth]

@@Amanda-yf7vj Or, with my eyes closed lol

[@Amanda-yf7vj]

@Raventooth That's the beauty of technology today. You can at least see it later. I hope you got some great sleep.

[@cmaden78]

I fall asleep most nights to this channel😂. I'm from South Florida. I've never been to England. I'm not English. But for some reason this accent puts me to 😴😂❤ although I end up actually watching anything with Ruth Goodman❤

[@danielw6424]

Cause only psychos watch this shit lol

[@glynisknight4403]

I lived in Ash Vale from 1964 to 1968 when I was in secondary school. I don't remember having ever heard about the murder but I can picture the station very clearly. The railway ran along an embankment just behind our house. There was a bridge over the road just before the station. The embankment was the reason why you had to climb the stairs to reach the platform.

[@charisanna4914]

These are truly fascinating, and all very sad, but I have to point out that none of these were Victorian, even the earliest was Edwardian

[@alibenkahn5092]

So since when has post WW2 and 1952 been considered 'Victorian ' ?

[@LTKK]

I thought I was hearing things incorrectly

[@EuniceStone-s9j]

George 6?

[@rasempress9724]

Must b because that Victoria was veddy pro German..lol.lol.lol…..her ghost was still around looking fir Albert

[@phillgreenland2390]

The railway was Victorian. "Victorian Railway ..."

[@sadielevens1144]

Always here when I need them. Love this channel.

[@leanneblake4248]

Nickolas Day , a good actor and presenter . And I really like Prof. Judth Rowbotham.

[@junestanich7888]

Good stories, well presented, don’t care of some are more modern than Victorian era. Thanks!

[@kmg3338]

Wonderful stories! I very much enjoyed them. Especially the accents.

[@Dovietail]

PROFESSOR JUDITH!!! I just love her work.

[@Everywhere2]

"Absolute History" has absolutely put a post-WW2 murder under the heading of "Victorian." The post-WW2 murder took place on the Tube despite being placed under the heading of "Railway."

[@549RR]

Absolute Pedantry

[@incurvatus]

​@@549RR? Who exactly are you referring to?

[@rebelbelle62]

The encyclopedia Britannica puts the Victorian era between 1820-1914. So, depending on where you get your information, it could be Victorian or Edwardian. In any case it is absolute history, 😊.

[@jrmckim]

​@rebelbelle62 it goes by the king or queen in power. Victorian era was the reign of Queen Victoria, from June 1837 until her death in January 1901. Edwardian era spanned the reign of King Edward VII from 1901 to 1910

[@julia.mcconnell]

@@rebelbelle62well it’s wrong. The Victorian era ended in 1901

[@dorotalipa9468]

Thank you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@MegaAlecson]

I don't understand how the speaking audio keeps getting lower and lower but that background music keeps getting louder it's almost like they're making it unbearable on purpose that's a great business practice to have

[@justmeandjack]

thats just your ears

[@653j521]

This really attracts sensitive flowers, doesn't it?

[@helmterbang2652]

Idk why ppl on your replies were so sarcastic bcs what you said is true and actually a constructive criticism. I use earphones and set the volume quite high when they do the talking bcs the audio IS really low, but when it suddenly switched to effect like train or gunshot? It straight up hurt my ear and I had to lower the volume, and switch it back up afterward bcs I couldn't hear the talking.

[@MumsTV-rv4lb]

It's because the person who mixed the audio is incompetent at their job

[@DahliaDew]

What happened to the countesses daughter, she was referenced but they did say if she died like her brother?

[@celebrityrog]

Jesus Christ the Geoffrey Dean case is just so fucked up and depressingly sad, heartbreaking really. A young man, a war hero, a father, a husband, someone who was making a life for himself and his family, making society better... Taken out the way he was, just really fucking got me tonight. It was like I felt every single stab wound for this poor guy.

[@johannaholmgren8088]

Tbh all the victims in these stories are (or seem to be) decent hard-working contributing members of society. Unlike the murderers.

[@keithwilliams4247]

That woman and her draaaaaging out words drives my crazy.

[@missg.5940]

She is speaking in what used to be called “ measured tone” and was probably considered proper when she was educated

[@incurvatus]

It's funny you say that because the male interviewee does the exact same thing. Did you not notice that? It's clearly how they've been taught to annunciate.

[@julia.mcconnell]

@@missg.5940I actually like her way of dragging our words. I speak so fast myself but I actually really enjoy how she articulates every work

[@phillgreenland2390]

She's no slower than some of the men.

[@warwarneverchanges4937]

500 pounds in 1905 is 76.000 today

[@kickinghorse2405]

Unless one skips sugary cereal for breakfast. 😊

[@Hunter-chcikenmask]

Waited so long to post

[@laurielaurie8280]

Very interesting stories. Very sad what happened to the Polish Countess.

[@becky8571]

The last one was because she saw someone she might have recognized from the nazi side of the concentration camps and was hurriedly stabbed with a small knife before she could tell anyone.

[@victoriator8863]

About the murder of the countess in the last episode...There are some covert psychopaths whose impulse to hurt or kill is activated just by seeing somebody in a vulnerable position. He doesn't have to know the person, doesn't need to have a reason. Just because a frail old woman was standing alone in a dark platform was enough. In other circumstances the killer may seem a respectable and likeable person.

[@Lforaday3]

I find the idea that the countess was killed by a former nazi collaborator interesting. Except that if her last words were ‘bandit’ or ‘bandits’ it doesn’t work for me

[@rhjorgsohn6728]

Prefect. Thank you zzzzzzz

[@josi4251]

The lady in gray reminds me of Aunt Bea on 'The Andy Griffith Show"

[@TawnyC_]

Me too.

[@toyamwarr]

Her outfit looks like lavender to me but yes she does resemble Aunt Bee.

[@TawnyC_]

​@@toyamwarrIt does look lavender/light plum color.

[@EuniceStone-s9j]

She's surely going to get her 15 minutes of fame with one sentence the way her worrrrds arrrre soooo looonnng. Lol

[@johndestefano7656]

I also thought that was British Aunt Bea! I guess some of us are from the same generation.

[@AnnaAnna-uc2ff]

Thanks.

[@wowiemoss3862]

oh wow im early thats never happened before

[@kskssxoxskskss2189]

How is this second case a "Victorian Railway Murder"? Interesting, but mislabeled.

[@jrmckim]

The first case isn't Victorian either. Its Edwardian. 😅😅

[@mddell58]

Wondering IF this has already been turned in to a 'movie, yet?'

[@GIBunz]

The Countess should've shown her scar, that way they'd know her identity.

[@653j521]

They saw it. That's in the video. Did you watch?

[@trentrush3101]

I came home with bloodshot eyes one time and tried telling my mom it was because aliens it didn't work. Also glad to know his jeep had a v6

[@jenniferbreaux7385]

Such an ignominious death for such an amazy countess.

[@emilien.]

Re the Polish Countess -- This is purely a from-the-gut theory: Connected to WWII and her activities and was either A) a Wehrmacht collaborator whom she could identify or B) someone who was part of the actual Wehrmacht machinery whom she could identify and who had escaped to the UK and was successfully living under an assumed identity. (The latter may have involved successfully hiding a foreign accent.) Someone who had a lot to lose if he or she were rumbled.

[@hectorpascal]

More likely she was involved in coordinating some of the spy activities of Polish emigres in Europe, and the KGB didn't like that.

[@Jens-Viper-Nobel]

This is also very much the assumed reason for her murder. The trouble is that she never had any papers or notes or diary entries in her tiny home to suggest anything that might point to anybody she would have met or even just seen around by happenstance and recognised. It is evident from her talks with friends in the last weeks of her life that she knew someone was threatening her and that she was most likely under some sort of surveillance, but it would seem that even she herself didn't know exactly why or by whom. But there is one thing I would like to have seen. It must be assumed that her case file and the paperwork and evidence from the investigation is still to be found somewhere in the archieves of the police since they never close an unsolved murder. It would be interesting to know what a renewed investigation with all the latest scientific methodology could reveal today. Because if, by chance, some unexplained DNA could be found, by using the method of following that DNA trace back through family heritage (which is one of the latest methods in DNA investigation) they might just get a workable lead. And with her life and her work, I'd say that if anybody deserved that, she would be an obvious choice. The world owes it to the memory of the White Angel.

[@emilien.]

@@Jens-Viper-Nobel Huge thanks for your fascinating reply! It would be great if this cold case could be reopened and yes, if anyone deserved the efforts she did. I know this sounds melodramatic, but I can't help but get the feeling that the murderer was a woman.

[@hectorpascal]

At that date, it's probably more likely she was involved in the coordination of the spy activities of Polish emigres in Europe, and the KGB didn't like that.

[@Jens-Viper-Nobel]

@@emilien. Well, female assasins and murderers have been known since the earliest written ages, so I will not think it melodramatic or even strange. And remember this. She was in Auswitsch and Ravensbrück and would in both places have been held in the womens camps, which means that the camp guards would have been Aufseherinnen (female camp guard name). And if someone killed the white angel to keep her from exposing their past in nazi service, this might just be one reason.

[@thostaylor]

It's a pity the video wasn't edited before posting. As is typical of most television documentaries it is full of repetition for channel-hoppers.

[@984francis]

Err, that’s not a Victorian loco.

[@EuniceStone-s9j]

Dang!! Shot 5 times. He must have known his killer. Sad..

[@653j521]

Anyone hear all those shots?

[@michaelkostiuk1009]

I like trains.

[@griffgriffiths9982]

how do you know that nobody has ever heard about these things? such arrogance.

[@653j521]

Oh brother.

[@jrmckim]

None of these are Victorian 😅

[@LittleRedSlipper]

Two out of three, isn't bad. The Countess life is so sad

[@dc7370]

The narrator abandoned purple.

[@nasiasteel9105]

And these are professionals

[@mercdeslaflamme1507]

Hey the lady is form miss Scarlett love that show

[@danielduvana]

Is this a reupload? So confusing

[@brucehaslett8057]

Too many commercials way too soon.

[@653j521]

Ad blocker. Sigh.

[@putridabomination]

Looks like Lemmy in the thumbnail

[@3rdmm]

Probably is.

[@robincowley5823]

Re: the talking heads who tell us in the first case, about John Dickman, what the jury does or doesn't believe. Codswallop! They have no way of knowing. The jury deliberations are not a matter of public record. It is pure speculation on their part what the jury did or didn't believe, or why they chose to convict. I've been on a jury where the result was swayed against the defendant simply because one loud mouthed haggis of a woman wanted to 'wipe the smile off the defendant's lawyer's face'. And she was absolutely within her rights to convict on that basis. So no, I don't buy that these so-called experts have one iota of a clue about why the jury chose to convict, and what they did or didn't believe about his account of that railway journey.

[@653j521]

Unless they told people afterwards.

[@robincowley5823]

@653j521 Firstly, they are random people telling other random people. I have no doubt that some jury members told a few other people, but then that gets to be like Chinese whispers, and any outcome will probably be garbled and untrustworthy. And that means there's a very low probability of any coherent "we didn't believe him" message. And would that apply to all 12 anyway? And we also have the passage of more than a century. Secondly, at least some of the jury may have felt bound by the law preventing them discussing their deliberations. So again, it seems unlikely that we can confirm some pretty lazy talking head speculation that is made in the belief that nobody will really challenge it.

[@patty4568]

I am getting old. I have watched so many CSI shows where I have finally arrived at the point of being fed up with the fact that we celebrate and publicize these degenerates instead of celebrating everyday heroes. What is worse, the criminals who commit these heinous crimes or the people that clap and cheer for the entertainment they provide?

[@missg.5940]

The story of the Countess keeps her memory alive. I didn’t find any of these stories celebratory towards the perpetrators but extremely sympathetic to the victims.

[@libbylee9722]

You are watching.

[@653j521]

@@libbylee9722 I'm not sure patty DID watch.

[@kimmccabe1422]

Sociopaths

[@-SarahElizabeth-]

Having haves and havenots will always result in this. This is a societal problem.

[@653j521]

It sounds like severe mental problems and none of the murderers was poor.

[@phillgreenland2390]

Even if there were not rich and poor and/or a class system, we'd still have murders.

[@nasiasteel9105]

👀

[@taniavorster8856]

WHY WHY THE LOAD MUSIC - TO KEEP MY ATTENTION - JUST TELL THE STORY ....🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@653j521]

Isn't there somewhere you'd rather be?

[@MrWeedWacky]

"he got 16 pounds in his vacation pay, and spent 15 shilling on a sheathed knife". *Starts up the old pre 1970's comptometer to figure out what 15 shilling is*