The growing rift between Ortiz & Mike Santana, formerly Proud & Powerful! | AEW Timelines

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It has come to this. Former longtime tag team partners, former friends, now bitter rivals: Santana & Ortiz will settle their differences in a NO-DQ FALLS COUNT ANYWHERE match THIS FRIDAY on #AEWRampage.
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The growing rift between Ortiz & Mike Santana, formerly Proud & Powerful! | AEW Timelines
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[@jason.waterfalls33]

They should have been tag champs a long time ago.

[@heymikey6793]

💯.. AEW dropped the ball/bag with Ortiz and Santana!!!

[@jason.waterfalls33]

@@heymikey6793 they should have beat the Bucks instead of the Lucha Bros.

[@ousmanebangoura2441]

I second that.

[@szczesciejestkoloruczarneg749]

They will be fs. Maybe in 2026 or sth

[@PontFlair]

*​@jason.waterfalls33* should have been great matches, where Santana & Ortiz beat BOTH The *ucks and Lucha Bros CLEANLY. 2 time Tag-Team belt winners. Honestly. They were better than "A Boy and his Dinosaur". And could've had CLASSICS vs FTR. *"coulda woulda shoulda"* AEW f****d off w/ Santana & Ortiz.

[@jamesrodriguez3667]

NAH man this is a ppv level match, the build is awesome and I'm bummed that this might not get the attention it deserves. Hopefully this does lead them to a proper reunion and a long overdue tag team title reign.

[@windmaster9]

Same here

[@travis8850]

Not gonna lie, Santana and Ortiz are a hell'uva lot better than I thought they were. If AEW can keep producing stories and matches like this, I might just become a full-time fan of wrestling again.

[@CesoeFelony]

@@travis8850 don't hold your breath,AEW creative always drops the ball....

[@travis8850]

@@CesoeFelony Not here they didn't. So, we'll see.

[@anilatartn]

@@travis8850 They absolutely dropped the ball here and with both of them.

[@ryanpetty8843]

This feud deserves more than to be just another match on Rampage. This is a feud that is deeply personal and goes back multiple promotions; how it wasn’t built up and marketed for ppv is beyond me.

[@joeyz5577]

I wish this was getting more TV time

[@BrentMan88]

Or how about just LIVE TV time?? The disrespect towards these two has been criminal. Should have been tag champs a LONG time ago, and they should have gotten a live broadcast for their feud!

[@xjoemallardx]

It needs to be on Dynamite.

[@mikeddh2018]

@@xjoemallardx it needs to be on a ppv instead of an episode of Rampage

[@Zgt3452]

Freaking facts!!! I almost forgot about this rivalry

[@jasondiend4248]

@@mikeddh2018 That is the shame of all this. These guys have history not just in AEW but in their career. This feels real this adds depth. It does come a time when guys have to try to be the star and be solo and this feud feels natural. It just wasted on Rampage. It is wasted they never got the tag titles in this company. It would be far more important of a feud if they were.

[@aprentissdaye]

It's unfortunate Mike Santana & Ortiz never held the AEW World Tag Team Championship at least once, but their chronicled timeline is definitely well put together.

[@ShadowAngelEva666]

They should be long reigning defending tag champs truly underrated tag team

[@windmaster9]

If the inner circle had stayed together I think they would have with or without interface they can go and have proofed that

[@ShadowAngelEva666]

The problem was the inner circle mostly focused on Jericho instead of each other properly. So far none of the factions have secured all of the gold in the company. If inner circle would've remained focus on gold all of them would mostly be champions

[@windmaster9]

@@ShadowAngelEva666 it was the same with nwo and evolution

[@cliffordjackson3]

FACTS.

[@ZDanielPhoenix]

I'll always be one of those people who felt cheated that Santana & Ortiz didn't have upward momentum during the Inner Circle/Stadium Stampede era.

[@Jx83xB]

I love that AEW is focusing more on story lines now.. It's what was lacking with AEW and now we're finally getting great stories that are believable and raw just the way ot should be. I hate seeing Santana and Ortiz fight but I love the rawness of their story and the phenomenal fights that comes with it. I do wish we would have gotten to see them win tag titles n had a solid run first though.

[@daisybelle1025]

The literally definition of ' hug it out'...should've been tag champs, and carried on the feud with the Lucha bros

[@cliffordjackson3]

FACTS.

[@xemera1d]

They always got injured at the wrong time😢

[@BrentMan88]

The AEW KZbin team even made a ‘Timelines’ episode for a match… on Rampage, a taped show.. The KZbin team is fantastic but whytf isn’t this match on a live show like Dynamite, Collision, or even better- Full Gear!?! I shouldn’t be able to read spoilers online about a match/show that DESERVES to be LIVE! Instead, now I have to try to avoid spoilers like the damn plague just to enjoy myself!

[@juicybear7696]

Because it is lame

[@galloshanker1392]

How can this not be on Dynamite.. Only found this out now how far this story progressed. This is gold based on real story.. This is Dynamite worthy yet its on Rampage. TK PLEASE... TAKE CHARGE

[@scopewrestling]

Rampage NEEDS this, my friend.

[@windmaster9]

​@@scopewrestlingI ll say cause the others getting filled

[@scopewrestling]

@@windmaster9 I say it because AEW's changing directions. They morphed into more of the other company's presentation and are starting to turn things back to competitive & personal tensions. This thing with Santana & Ortiz has roots. Rampage needs heavier stories just to regain palatability and not look like the late night throw away show.

[@windmaster9]

@@scopewrestling and I agree

[@Vult_Ira317]

Nah nah We need a Full Gear match for this. But it's match number 2.

[@AaronChimera]

I honestly feel like this feud and its blow off, properly done, elevates both of them. These guys are going to have some killer matches. and I agree they never got a proper tag title run. But that is what reunions are for.

[@ryanpetty8843]

TK blew the “properly done” part when he scheduled their match on Rampage instead of building it up for PPV. Sure, he’s all about doing feuds with three matches, but holding the first one on Rampage was a mistake.

[@AaronChimera]

@@ryanpetty8843 .....Oh dude, that was not the end of the feud. That is the start of the proper feud. Now you got Sonjay dutt about to blow smoke up Ortiz's ass and turn him full heel, Santana goes full face and will have to find some allies after Dutts crew beats him down a few times. This isn't the blow off match my dude. This is the spark that lights the fuse.

[@edge9088]

They should've been Tag Champs

[@1983jcheat]

So true.

[@Darule514]

Eddie Kingston need to play peacemaker between these two. They can't end this team.

[@windmaster9]

He did once didn't do anything to stop em from escalating

[@Saiyan45]

This suould be on Dynamite or Collision. This storyline is so good! It deserved more spotlight than the Outcast thing we got past weeks. And I think we should get a proper conclusion at Full Gear

[@ruvindap66]

Finally. Can't believe they never became tag Champs, and now thus feud is getting buried on rampage. We need more pnp, even though I know we will never get the old pnp back.

[@khaledgee]

This deserve to be at PPV

[@Amir_Abdoullaev]

It can still be at the PPV, like imagine one of them wins with a roll up and then the other gets upset which could lead to a rematch.

[@khaledgee]

@@Amir_Abdoullaev I hope you Khan should be smart

[@philo2189]

​@@Amir_Abdoullaevno it can't they already blew this match away on rampage

[@Dr_1212]

Cant wait to see them wrestle

[@johnpannebaker5757]

Santana vs Ortiz needs to be long, long term story, involving respect, the TNT Championship, International Championship, and then ending with a reunion leading to a Tag Team Championship run.

[@GODIAM22]

TK should donate the Rampage hour to either a LIVE dynamite or collision.. he can even keep the Friday time slot & move a 2 hour collision to Friday nights, while keeping dynamite on Wednesday and making it a LIVE 3 hour show.

[@everlynewatila2619]

They make best and strong tag team partners

[@Ntron475]

Why is this feud not on Dynamite or Collison? Or match take place on ppv? As usual they deserve better.

[@mr.legendaryjelly]

i met these guys in 2019 , they were funny as hell... it breaks my heart to see end up like this.

[@olitaw45]

I hate they going at it like that

[@bigchillphil]

This story should be on Dynamite or Collision. It does have me watching Rampage .

[@leewilliams106]

Come on... This could have been saved for a bigger event

[@kevinfrank8164]

I am so excited for this match after watching these. Have they been killing it on Rampage with these promos since Grand Slam? I can’t believe ive been missing out

[@anthonyg4289]

I wanna see a Santana and Swerve feud

[@robh.5658]

👇If you like Proud & Powerful.

[@GalactivaPhantom]

those nubcakes comparing this to the Usos clearly does not know how real this was for those who knew whats happening off screen between this two for close to 2 years now. Amazing how this can turned into a work. Lets hope we get a good programme and great pay off this deserved

[@krishnakishore9871]

This is really an epic promo from both of them..

[@KHYLA_TORRENCE]

I get both sides and I hate to have to pick between two people that I luv and that I will always be a fan of but as of right now I’m sorry but imma have to choose Ortiz right now

[@aaronyt2819]

I feel like years ago Santana was the GUY between them. But now it’s Ortiz

[@rafkidarma7597]

I want it continues to full gear coz they look great in tha ppv.

[@theWorldOfIss]

Rematch will be in full gear 🎉❤

[@naluminolinyandi6755]

They need a tag team title run.

[@bryanespejo7637]

Ortiz has steeze like no other. Very underrated

[@mikebeattie976]

Santana and Ortiz were a great tag team one of the best the rift between them is a story line imo

[@happyface8674]

after almost 40 years of watching wrestling, i have come to a conclusion :: DONT TRUST ANYONE

[@TimboWhite-sh6bb]

Thank You So Very Much There To Everyone Of AEW

[@nathanyelreyes5826]

This is great! Tony put this on live tv!

[@gjshomeofsilliness9391]

If you're wondering why their IRL beef is being used as inspiration for the storyline: They both agreed to this. They would be all over the dirt sheets if they didn't. Also, much of the build for this fight was done ON Rampage.

[@amartripathy]

The match should have been on dynamite

[@ZanyGeek]

The build to this feud between Ortiz & Mike Santana, hasn't been pushed anywhere near what it should have been. This is huge.

[@Calel-Batfleck]

Christian Cage for AEW championship!!!

[@MykwWayne]

My back is killing me

[@matteotc]

2 stars hope to see more of Santana and Ortiz

[@giorgiasimeoni8437]

This rivalry between Santana and Ortiz is something too beautiful but I have to say that I'm very sorry not to see one of the best tag teams in the world together anymore

[@alemagine]

7:15 : Tell me I was not alone to feel not good when I see Chuck Taylor and Eddie Kingston use a Umbrella in Wembley 😬

[@jackdickens3755]

Tony khan dropped the ball with proud and powerful so disappointing tht there match is on rampage utter disrespect

[@Phoenixsuns1968]

Santana wins . Idky they have to bring real life drama into a story line i am sure this is a one and done match

[@AntonioRodriguez-lz1uq]

Wdym do they have real life beef

[@Phoenixsuns1968]

​@@AntonioRodriguez-lz1uqyes look it up they had a real life break up as pals . That's why they are no more

[@AntonioRodriguez-lz1uq]

@@Phoenixsuns1968 damn but Ortiz tryed talking to him Santana didn’t want to even Konnan said he’s like him he’s a hothead

[@envisk821]

This needs to be on PPV level

[@chaotictattoo]

Nice hat bud.

[@GeorgeBoroFan]

Done them both so dirty. Should have been tag champs and this story should have blown off on a PPV

[@theofficiallonewolf]

How is this NOT on Collision?

[@duyphan4617]

12:39 😂😂😂😂😂

[@daisusaikoro]

It is a shame this was regulated to just Rampage. Disrespectful. Churlish!

[@eveningshownamibia]

We just want to see Abadon

[@realtruecool_17]

P&P should definitely join the BCC💪🏾💯

[@Shiny.Ghastly]

Tony: Santana and Ortiz is having real life feud....... let's make a storyline out of it.

[@PuFF-mc7pz]

Feels like they both lying

[@jawanfarmer1749]

They were good together now they’re no more

[@Eldesemplead0]

Why this isn't on a PPV is the real question

[@MrBlack252]

I thought they joined the Blackpool Combat Club?

[@mattjustofficial]

Using Keeping in 100 / Konnans voice clips

[@dacronicspotgaming6104]

What's happened to Chuck Taylors face

[@PimpBoiswagg]

Pretty suck that these guys go a long way from the start. Should’ve won the tag team champions last year.

[@willg1083]

Those guys should have been tag champs early in AEW , but they kept putting the belts on the Bucks, and Jungle Boy, and Dino man, that rift was cause by bad booking.

[@JRR31984]

3:10. Check out the little boys play messages. (aite) (go away for another year boy)

[@dceasedbrickfan74]

Penta is just getting shredded now. Give him a title run! & I feel like they can get rid of Yuta now…🤣

[@malikdigger4544]

Thunder Rosa come back in Aew

[@MrThesupremeking]

I really hope that after this match they can go back to being friends

[@DrEarbuds]

if I didn't see this ......... I would have never cared .

[@uncletre1130]

Well now I’m mad at Santana cuz we could’ve gotten that briscoe vs proud n powerful dream match

[@jayfasey9711]

Put me down! Im a Ortiz guy.

[@canUsaythis]

I honestly want this match to end in a No Contest, build the 2nd match....end in a Double DQ, till finally.....Lights Out as this fued can not end in a 1 on 1 clear winner. There's so much bad blood here which makes me sad as I enjoyed this Tag Team

[@jmelz155]

NYC stand up. Santana/Ortiz

[@knightsryne663]

They should held the belts when they was hot as a tag team. Wish they come back together and fix they're issues so they could get in the tag team title pucture.

[@phantasmaunotroup]

Why haven't they uploaded Santanas new entrance theme

[@skybearer]

Pretty sad this couldn’t be turned into business. Now Santana is gone…

[@ONECastONEFlowpodcast]

Great tag team should have been tag team champs but finally some bad blood and hopefully turns into a long rivalry Aew needs a great rivalry i hope not with them but someone else

[@ianirungu9854]

Well played aew

[@nicolemerrill9167]

He was out buying hats that's why you didn't hear from him, typical feud but they got nasty move sets

[@tonimaestre96]

AEW must be the only company to book a tag team, make him dissapear for 1 year and then tease a breakup between them after 1 year of non competing

[@ptahhoteptmu264]

Lol You don’t know they didn’t break them up? They actually hate each other in real life and decided to stay in AEW. This isn’t a storyline, it’s real.

[@doubleornothing7341]

AEW IS THE BEST👏👏👏👏

[@minimalchill]

What I can’t understand is…why is this the first time I’m seeing these clips on KZbin? I don’t have cable, so I keep up with AEW exclusively through KZbin. Their clips, and coverage by podcasts. No one watches Rampage bc it’s perceived to be a waste of time…yet if these promos had been uploaded weekly then that narrative could’ve been changed. I repeat, Why is this the first time I’ve seen any of these promos? STORIES are what make wrestling, and this is one I’ve been interested in that has just felt like it was ignored a majority of the time.

[@death2putin718]

Watch Rampage and you would have seen these promos, but nobody watches

[@ashtonhaggitt216]

​@@death2putin718because people have lives and so things on Friday nights. Further, the show is awful lmao

[@Steevilkineevil]

This should be on Dynamite or Collision. It's wasted on Rampage.

[@Itsjust_alexp]

No it’s not - how can they build the show if they don’t have amazing feuds on it! It’s made them the center of the show

[@daisusaikoro]

@@Itsjust_alexp They are not "building" rampage. It's the same it's been for awhile. Rampage is what it is. A decidedly C show with good matches from time to time.

[@philo2189]

​@@Itsjust_alexpwhy are they building a show no one watches on a bad time slot? They should be building collision and dynamite.

[@Itsjust_alexp]

@@philo2189 revenue - they are responsible for bringing in viewers. That’s how they make money and that how their deals are determined. You have three solid shows means us fans keep getting the programs we like from the company. So sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do.

[@Itsjust_alexp]

@@daisusaikoro we can have a difference of opinion. Maybe in your eye it’s a C show . But not for those wrestlers who are happy to get an opportunity. We have to stop this. A few years ago we begged for more wrestling programs and competitions and when they do we throw dirty on it.

[@JimCornetta]

So who was under the devil mask??

[@zackbass8060]

I been seen this

[@teemimika7105]

Who the fk realize these two had a blood feud? Tony was so damn bad at booking damn

[@symphonyofgecko7768]

great story

[@sebastianortiz1356]

Why are they fighting each other if they are tag team partners

[@bruiserb8116]

No cheers for santanas return

[@TobiasTheWolf]

I’m really finding it hard to care about this feud. It will be a good match but these guys were never booked good in AEW. They were just Jericho’s goons and I never got to feel a strong attachment with them.

[@whatlez]

Can't even tell who's the face or heel here.

[@CartwheelsInTheMoonlight]

Mr . Littles

[@3duardo17]

Please done fight 😭 🇵🇷

[@SmoloTHEKloWn]

I’m not gonna lie. I got played. Lol. I thought this was legit. I’m a mark.

[@shadowalker8068]

They sound 😂 like Eddie Kingston talking non sense 🤣 stop it boys

[@spidermonkeysofficial]

combat club go face heel every week