The HARDEST and EASIEST Support Champions (TIER LIST)

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Hardest and Easiest Support Champions in League of Legends
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@Test-iv4pm
@Test-iv4pm Жыл бұрын
Some of Blitzcrank's value is the psychological torment on enemies by just standing there menacingly
@EM-ou2pl
@EM-ou2pl Жыл бұрын
underrated comment 😂
@communistpenguin8538
@communistpenguin8538 Жыл бұрын
You guys are terrifying.
@flyingknee23
@flyingknee23 Жыл бұрын
fax..
@notanotherpyro
@notanotherpyro Жыл бұрын
Blitz's greatest weapon is his hook. His second greatest weapon is the fear of the hook. Most satisfying thing is when the enemy is so obsessed with dodging the hook you literally just walk up to the point where it becomes impossible to dodge.
@Hyper-Wubba
@Hyper-Wubba Жыл бұрын
sometime i jus force them into gank postions without even having to deal a single point of damage
@glitchboard9452
@glitchboard9452 Жыл бұрын
My only gripe, I think, is lulu. I think she's in a similar situation as Janna. If you just press buttons, you'll be somewhat useful. But her q can be a little funky with how pix flies around, especially if its attached to an enemy. Choosing to extend the q range with an e on minions or camps as well. Using the ultimate to interrupt dashes and abilities like panth stun or stopping a trist from jumping away. Choosing whether or not to poly or boost an ally. Plus a surprising amount of build diversity, and non-static skill order. So high minimum value, but there's a lot of room for skill expression
@tdsebes4712
@tdsebes4712 Жыл бұрын
thats a good point but I think this list was based on how easy it is to help out/succeed in the support role.
@dunesshtrikova422
@dunesshtrikova422 Жыл бұрын
I agree with both you and the first reply hehe
@frutillallorona
@frutillallorona Жыл бұрын
agree
@allat0nce
@allat0nce Жыл бұрын
I think lulu is still more braindead than janna, you can press all your buttons on the hypercarry and win the fight whereas janna at least has to land something. The W usage is pretty straightforward too: talon jumped on your twitch => you W the talon, twitch is ulting enemy team from stealth for a pentakill montage => you W the twitch. The rest of her skill expression (interrupting dashes) can be done and is more difficult on champions like janna/nami, they also have an additional cast time. It doesnt matter what you build on lulu as long as its composed of a forbidden idol, the few degens playing her top with attack speed are just that, degens.
@gabriellevoelker8980
@gabriellevoelker8980 Жыл бұрын
I think the reasoning that separates the two champions lies in that Lulu's optimal gameplay patterns can become very diminutive with trustworthy hypercarries on her team, while a pure buffing/enchanting playstyle will almost never be the best option for Janna, who thrives on CC and space manipulation (similar to Renata, Thresh, and Bard). Janna has slightly more preemptive skill expression involved with her Q, R, and her position relative to everyone else, but I agree with you that pet mechanics with Pix (and a somewhat non-static skill order) makes a great argument. Overall I'd say that Janna's skill expression is more visible and less situational than Lulu's, but their skill ceilings can be similar.
@boreum789
@boreum789 Жыл бұрын
I started playing Bard lately. It's truly another world, every game is a journey...
@glitchboard9452
@glitchboard9452 Жыл бұрын
Bard is the Lucio of League.
@anigodzapex9384
@anigodzapex9384 Жыл бұрын
@@glitchboard9452 Very Much agree. A Character who just does his own Funny Things, while Providing Utilty and is also super unique to play. Their are way to less Character in this Direction.
@koeiswit
@koeiswit Жыл бұрын
As a Thresh OTP I got clickbaited very hard by seeing him in the easy pile
@internationalarmy3984
@internationalarmy3984 Жыл бұрын
I played Thresh a few times and I can’t even comprehend what he said
@iwrecklevaj3349
@iwrecklevaj3349 Жыл бұрын
Same but thresh is just my main
@Test-iv4pm
@Test-iv4pm Жыл бұрын
Taric is one of those types of mechanically hard champions you were talking about earlier. The difference between landing an extra auto, or not, is huge.
@i0kiVids
@i0kiVids Жыл бұрын
Yeah true with the CD reductions per auto, it really does matter sneaking in those autos on Taric
@Test-iv4pm
@Test-iv4pm Жыл бұрын
I think the most team-reliant supports should be in a new hardest tier above everyone else. Relying on teammates in solo queue is just about the hardest approach to the game to take.
@KungKokkos
@KungKokkos Жыл бұрын
So every single tank then
@TheKillingPerfection
@TheKillingPerfection Жыл бұрын
sona
@Yusa_Beach
@Yusa_Beach Жыл бұрын
@@TheKillingPerfection rell
@jreamer971
@jreamer971 Жыл бұрын
Bard Main here. Played him since release. Everyone hates me. I get it. Blame Rito for making such a fun champ.
@bardius4022
@bardius4022 Жыл бұрын
The thing with bard is, a lot of times youd hit what would be a perfect R but your teamate does something before it hits that makes it an int
@tristantzara9496
@tristantzara9496 2 ай бұрын
yes it feels terrible as riven when im fighting someone, intrrupts my cds
@willsteinberg4168
@willsteinberg4168 Жыл бұрын
Ioki talked about Braum for 5 seconds and those were the happiest 5 seconds of my life
@lolamina8741
@lolamina8741 Жыл бұрын
Why dont he never talk about him
@willsteinberg4168
@willsteinberg4168 Жыл бұрын
@@lolamina8741 I think he hates Braum I’m waiting for the day I see him play him but I don’t think that will ever happen :(
@lolamina8741
@lolamina8741 Жыл бұрын
@@willsteinberg4168 i want to know why. Everytime he just skip him or talk for 4sec 😢 the last braum video was 10months ago
@willsteinberg4168
@willsteinberg4168 Жыл бұрын
@@lolamina8741 he always skips my big mustachio boy
@giovanniponte4806
@giovanniponte4806 Жыл бұрын
I was looking for this small section of Braum mains disappointed for all the hate I mean... why??
@cala_beast_skullfpsschweig8479
@cala_beast_skullfpsschweig8479 Жыл бұрын
Did anyone actually see renata 😅 one of the more forgotten supports Also zilean one of the most annoying supports
@lautaromoreno3916
@lautaromoreno3916 Жыл бұрын
Renata may not be there because she is fairly new and the list may be old. Zilean, in the other hand, it pissed me off >:v I love him
@Portuducks
@Portuducks Жыл бұрын
@@lautaromoreno3916 Bottom right corner of his screen shows October 3, 2022.
@ardel-4964
@ardel-4964 Жыл бұрын
@@Portuducks The list may be old not the video. Aka streamer just found this tier list in the internet
@Balloonbot
@Balloonbot Жыл бұрын
I'd put her on "kinda hard"
@loudbill
@loudbill Жыл бұрын
This was very informative, since im quite new. As a Taric main, I hate getting banned because of the Taric bots, so I’ve been looking for a second support to play. Thanks for this!
@christyvlacho2829
@christyvlacho2829 Жыл бұрын
When I saw yone in the support list, I really hoped to see Zoe too, but she wasn't included and I understand that she's not that popular in the support role but I would like to hear an opinion. Other than that it was a great video Ioki
@rodericvera3460
@rodericvera3460 Жыл бұрын
i use zoe supp, i got M7 :)
@californication2000
@californication2000 Жыл бұрын
Have you noticed that "kinda hard" category has more champs than "average" category, which makes it the real average category?
@shirakolee
@shirakolee Жыл бұрын
That mean ioki think playing support is hard
@dantez.6462
@dantez.6462 Жыл бұрын
Where in the tier list would be amumu, renata and zilean?
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods Жыл бұрын
I've only seen amumu be a support recently, maybe it's because he was a jungle before the tier list was created idk same with Renata ig in terms of release
@meichigogirl
@meichigogirl Жыл бұрын
Hope you're enjoying Twitchcon GSA!! Thank you for the tier list
@samal1115
@samal1115 Жыл бұрын
what a great video! i am an adc (xayah) but i play a lot of support too, im trying to learn janna and senna, cause they are so different but both very fun to play.
@shirakolee
@shirakolee Жыл бұрын
Xayah can be used as support , you just attack them with basic attack , its a bit hard cause minions will attack you , but once the target try to attack back , you call your feathers back and stun them Its a bit aggressive but if your adc is aggressive to , it work
@samal1115
@samal1115 Жыл бұрын
@@shirakolee sounds cool, thanks
@matrixman3267
@matrixman3267 Жыл бұрын
Hey iOki, you talked about amumu in your support tier list video but didn't include him in this one, so where would you put him ? Very educational video btw, I learned a lot :)
@raficelle11
@raficelle11 Жыл бұрын
based on what i see i think he would be put as average. kinda easy but Q is still a skillshot
@Test-iv4pm
@Test-iv4pm Жыл бұрын
Since you mention Janna is one of the most misunderstood champions in the game, could you please make a video about her to help us understand her?
@TPHthunder19
@TPHthunder19 Жыл бұрын
Teemo would need an entire tier to himself
@TPHthunder19
@TPHthunder19 Жыл бұрын
@Jonathan J. It mostly breaks my team in champ select
@raficelle11
@raficelle11 Жыл бұрын
@Jonathan J. karthus and panth can too
@shirakolee
@shirakolee Жыл бұрын
I started playing it adc , ive lost my first game after the 7th try , all 6 before were funny wins Then i tried suuport , sadly it was like playing adc but without hiting minions , i was doing the same thing Tried mid , i didnt like it , katarina , akali , most mid dont use auto attacks and the R is hard to use since theres a lot of area to cover Top...poor top players...even today i feel bad for all the bad game they had against me lol And lastly i tried jgl , and i noticed 2 important things , first hes actualy better at killing monsters than singed , second , no one complained And its funny to see how many ppls wander on river to get killed by shrooms lol
@DerayYG
@DerayYG Жыл бұрын
Ngl, everytime some asshole trys to teemo support when I'm adc I just dodge. As a M7 former rat one trick I know exactly how useless Teemo is in most situations. You have to be literally braindead to let a teemo pop off let alone be the factor in why he won a game. His range is shit, his cc is shit, and if you buy sweeper or umbral theres little to no point in his shrooms. And as a support how's he gonna get an adc fed? Blind the enemy adc and hope they take a dumb fight? How's he gonna help his adc survive a gank? Pray the enemy jungle steps on a shroom? It's completely troll.
@leagueaddict8357
@leagueaddict8357 Жыл бұрын
He is S++
@wladynoszhighlights5989
@wladynoszhighlights5989 Жыл бұрын
Very good list! Altough Imo Nami is a bit harder generally than Morgana, would swap them probably her ult usage can vary a lot, her Q is weird to land and her W usage aswell Morg is mostly Q with a wide hitbox to cheese from out of vision
@pyrokatarina
@pyrokatarina Жыл бұрын
the thing with nami is, even if she misses her q, she can still buff damage, speed up allies, and heal them, plus her ult. If you miss q on morgana, you're useless for another 10 seconds
@kamins9610
@kamins9610 Жыл бұрын
Where is zilean?
@bowmain1577
@bowmain1577 Жыл бұрын
20:22 I genuinely agree, the game is really only made up of clicking and max 5-6 commonly pressed buttons. Mechanics are generally easy to understand, how to improve at them is pretty easy to get. Mechanics is nowhere near the hardest part of this game.
@shirakolee
@shirakolee Жыл бұрын
Yet most adc...well even ioki ones are actualy good , they are hiting the target , auto attacks are an op mechanics that most adc dont know
@mennogamesnl2638
@mennogamesnl2638 Жыл бұрын
Ioki thank you very much for making this video, its a lifesaver, i switched to support since almost 2 weeks ago so this helps me a lot.
@internationalarmy3984
@internationalarmy3984 Жыл бұрын
Support itself is easy if but the best thing to learn is dodging skill shoots and that will help you with enemy ganks and the randomness of Bot Lane
@Ethrak
@Ethrak Жыл бұрын
But where the fuck is Zilean ??? :(
@matthewthomson6466
@matthewthomson6466 Жыл бұрын
Thresh was the very first champion I picked up, way back in high school when I asked “who should I learn?” to the league team. And now I’m a Diamond 4 support who *can* play a decent amount of champions, but damn if Thresh isn’t my favourite.
@tyronepalma3854
@tyronepalma3854 Жыл бұрын
"I'm DEFINITELY going to put lulu in the...... hmm...... lemme think 🤔" In all seriousness great vid was fun to watch as always
@smtxgaming
@smtxgaming Жыл бұрын
Really nice list. I can agree with most of them. Imo it would be nice to move Sona to Extreme Easy and give Yuumi her own Tier. Sona is so much easier than everyone in easy, but u still playin the same game. Yuumi on the other hand just ignores a big amount of basic League of Legends Gameplay and Knowledge. For me Rakan, Janna and Lulu should be in different tiers. Janna max potential can be rlly high but imo u can go for the same arguement on Lulu, so they should be in the same tier. Rakan on the other side is so flashy and can pull of a lot of nice combos so i guess he should not be in the same tier as Rell or Nautilus. U need so much knowledge about the different arts of the Support role like how to engage, how to peel, how to roam and a decent amount of skill that he should be hard or maybe extreme hard. I guess its easier for someone who plays every Support, but for someone who just plays tanks or Enchanter he can be really difficult.
@vipneo3879
@vipneo3879 Жыл бұрын
nice video, idea make one with synergy with which ADC / APC. also what about fiddlesticks (ye he is a niche pick but so are sett and malph) and Renata both are missing
@douglascavin2140
@douglascavin2140 Жыл бұрын
I do agree with you that the biggest factor in success is not mechanical skill level, but game knowledge, situational wisdom. But I do think RIOT has been going towards an emphasis on mechanical play in their design of new champs rather than sticking with the strategy and balance elements of the game. They seem to care more about what looks awesome in stream than anything else. This leads to players emphasizing mechanical play rather than the situational strategy they should be playing with. Players want to just go in and do the fab looking thing they saw on some High Elo stream rather than focus on what is necessary to win. I believe we could take a lot of the salt and toxicity out of the ranked game if we had separate queues: one for people who want to play objectively and strategically, one for people who just want to kill nubs. Of course to make that work you'd have to have some horrifical punishments for violators. It could be bait for the toxic souls.
@internationalarmy3984
@internationalarmy3984 Жыл бұрын
Then again I think that mechanics and skill are thrown out of the window when you have broken items and champions and can be mindless if there is no grand plan unless you just keep engaging
@rodrigomiguel3907
@rodrigomiguel3907 Жыл бұрын
i think moaki has a certain level of skill gap based on knowing when to w whether its to doge cc or a viegar ult or to stick to someone flashing or dashing and knowing when u can Q
@OrphanCrippler1
@OrphanCrippler1 Жыл бұрын
No. Just w
@kurtkurt98
@kurtkurt98 Жыл бұрын
i main Bard and i love how you explain Bard which makes me feels really satisfyyyy
@TheKingOf2024
@TheKingOf2024 Жыл бұрын
you troll your team with your ults, right?
@maxryan5188
@maxryan5188 Жыл бұрын
Where's Renata and Zilean? Good Video Though
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods Жыл бұрын
Probably old list.
@toddmueller9056
@toddmueller9056 Жыл бұрын
My biggest gripe is Zyra not being in extremely easy. The other day I was fed twitch, like 8/2 and was getting killed by a Zyra who was 2/6 faster then I could kill her. She could miss anything, was tanky enough to kill me before I could kill her, and has some of the most punishing support I've ever played against. Her biggest problem as support is her plants will steal cs regardless of what you do.
@shirakolee
@shirakolee Жыл бұрын
I played her twice , first after 10mn of no ganking from target team and us being fed , khazix one shot me Second one the adc was runing under the target tower , why my plants could at first kill something , they got so fed that it was then impossible to even stay under tower So i would say shes realy hard to use , she have no way to survive once ganked by 4 good players
@internationalarmy3984
@internationalarmy3984 Жыл бұрын
@@shirakolee I main Zyra and one if you have a duo it is extremely easy (really good with Jinh) However you become a massive target and you’ll be camped most games because she is very oppressive when no one is targeting her. She is also very slow and doesn’t have any real peal than her ult (Which you can most likely walk over) and her e (But has a short root time) You have to be very aware of your surroundings but if you can just get ahead, she can be a headache for the enemy if you can get her mythic. She also doesn’t have any real counter if you have played the game for long (Although I struggle with Xerath and Brand because I don’t see they all the time and can easily 1v1 you)
@2juiced
@2juiced Жыл бұрын
Her abilities are mostly skillshots. So you saying that you were feed and a 2/6 zyra killed you, means that you didn’t dodge anything. How don’t you expect to die if you get full combod?
@N3207H05
@N3207H05 Жыл бұрын
"She could miss anything" no she cant, e and q are her burst, if she misses them she have to wait her plant to kill you, which will result in her die first.
@lorenzopiva9322
@lorenzopiva9322 Жыл бұрын
Nah lol. I struggled with her at first. She is def a lot harder than people give her credit for
@melissadragneel1956
@melissadragneel1956 Жыл бұрын
I’m adc main and I’m starting on Supp main. In Supp main I main lulu, naut, Leona, nami, lux, Soraka qnd yuumi. I agree with the positions you’ve given to all the support champions, BUT I’d put Janna, Lulu, Karma and Seraphine as Extra hard. As an adc, it is super rare for me to find a player who actually know what to do with those champions. They focus on damage and hitting shots, and never know how to peel or roam. Whenever my support picks Janna, I go with Caitlyn which is the adc I play the most and best, bcs I know it’s probably going to be a bad Janna and I’m gonna have to do all the work by myself. Peel champions are hard bcs of how squishy they are, and how it takes BOTH parties being good. The adc needs to know what they r doing, know how to engage, and needs to know who to choose. Support needs to know who to stun/slow and needs to know how to peel.
@thelordofdarkness1380
@thelordofdarkness1380 Жыл бұрын
the second thing on yuumi imo is to leave your ally if he does some stupid shit and not even save him, e.g. adc goes into enemy team
@bugrahancakmak4390
@bugrahancakmak4390 Жыл бұрын
I wish there was İvern support too
@internationalarmy3984
@internationalarmy3984 Жыл бұрын
But then Rengar would have to be in the ADC teir list
@somo4227
@somo4227 Жыл бұрын
i mean he is a suport for all lanes while taking the jungle
@shadowllght
@shadowllght Жыл бұрын
Any opinions on Poppy/experience on it on Support?
@talmagejones
@talmagejones Жыл бұрын
Thanks Ioki!
@90kalos1
@90kalos1 Жыл бұрын
Never considered Pantheon support, need to try that
@magnus00125
@magnus00125 11 ай бұрын
I played a lot of Taric before his rework. It was pretty cool and relaxing. I got to about 150 games with 53% winrate. Not enough to climb but it was relaxing. Playing a hard carrying champ all the time takes a toll on ya after a while...
@wrwinter
@wrwinter Жыл бұрын
is there a video or clip where you do talk about Braum? can sort of guess why you don't, but it's only a guess
@wolframvonrichthofen7913
@wolframvonrichthofen7913 Жыл бұрын
Morde sup is decent if you know what you're doing, if you manage to win lane and take T1 tower early you get access to more gold via invading and 1v1ing the jgler everytime your ult is up and grouping with your adc when it's down. If you manage to pull it off you'll be taking an entire load of your jglr and your team will be winning in terms of resources and map pressure and control, and if you fall behind you're still a decent tank that can prevent dives and smite contests. His downside is that he gets easily kited, so its best to work around that and make them come to you instead thus the invading and forcing the enemy jglr to contest jg camps.
@internationalarmy3984
@internationalarmy3984 Жыл бұрын
Sion and Liz can make a great combo if both can land their stuns. I was fighting this bot and was supper oppressing and I was a Zyra
@lennyh801
@lennyh801 Жыл бұрын
THANKS IOKI!!! Everyone would flame me when I miss a hook or an ult with Pyke. I've been a support main for years and I just cannot make Pyke my main I'm awful with him. I find him quite difficult personally.
@shirakolee
@shirakolee Жыл бұрын
Yeah pyke...i tried him cause his invisible thing looked good , first in jgl , it worked good , then on support...but it was a nightmare , why i could hook them , i couldnt stun them , and was always missing my ulti And since most adc dont attack , sometimes i was just loosing hp/mana for nothing
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods Жыл бұрын
I used to otp him, but I gave up because late game you become useless and get blow up 24/7. I started playing Rell Leona and Ali just because pyke scarred me
@dtnv7324
@dtnv7324 Жыл бұрын
where’s my boy zilean :(
@juliankanzuki2013
@juliankanzuki2013 Жыл бұрын
Anivia support is kinda cheese if your ADC is Vayne or Zeri. Just for the wall interactions.
@shirakolee
@shirakolee Жыл бұрын
Sadly the vayne will either not attack the target , otr use hit skill after or before the wall is up
@philippuhrig3681
@philippuhrig3681 Жыл бұрын
Nice list, but where is the donger. Plus i play both alistar and sett and i find they fulfill a similar purpose with alistar being way more difficult because he cant do anything alone as he doesnt have damage. Also once he is in, he is in whereas sett can ult someone out or at least w everyone for 1/3 of thei hp thus being usefull. And ali's wq is not easy when the target is very close to you or just out of w range and your run after but dont know when exactly theyll be in range
@wikingzkurwabrodaitoporem1382
@wikingzkurwabrodaitoporem1382 Жыл бұрын
Me as a beginner support player: I wanna start playing bard and pyke, they are fun, I like roaming and have impact on the whole map Ioki: well I have bad news
@i0kiVids
@i0kiVids Жыл бұрын
Play them anyways. Prove me wrong!
@ma-arly
@ma-arly Жыл бұрын
i agree with this list, except pyke that i dont find extremly difficult. I struggle more playing rakan personaly
@xiimorals
@xiimorals Жыл бұрын
I think that may be down to your personal style? Rakan is one of my top champs, but I'm worse Pyke NA. Haha I've just never been able to get a handle on him. :)
@internationalarmy3984
@internationalarmy3984 Жыл бұрын
Both needs to land their stunts but it is the ADC to support you. While Raman arguable needs help pyke can do it and his own but you need to roam to get the most value and of you passive
@jackrush1222
@jackrush1222 Жыл бұрын
I think it's that pyke needs to win lane to get value whereas rakan can still be useful late game as an engage support. A pyke who has 0 kills has no value in the game as he has no items and hence no damage to actually put pressure in the game after laning phase.
@Newgear01
@Newgear01 Жыл бұрын
I am missing some supports in the list. Renata Glasc, Amumu, Heimer, Zilean. Also sad my Vex or Veigar support isn't on there. As a veigar main I shrek with the best ability in the game. :3
@GetAlong2GetAlong
@GetAlong2GetAlong Жыл бұрын
I miss static-shiv Bard. That was my go to.
@vesarixx9080
@vesarixx9080 9 ай бұрын
There are definitely more impressive things than flash W that you can do on Maokai, if you angle his ult right and chain the first hit with Q you can get a double root, you can also ult to the side to instantly root a target at the edge of his R hitbox, it has pretty decent range.
@Test-iv4pm
@Test-iv4pm Жыл бұрын
Would love to see you make a Morgana video
@czerkitka141
@czerkitka141 Жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see offended Yuumi mains saying „SHE ISNT THAT EASY CAUSE SHE GOTTA AUTO FROM TIME TO TIME AND ACTUALLY NOT BE AN ITEM” guys do you realize that doing what LITERALLY all other champions do all the time doesn’t make her not an item and the easiest champion to play in the game?
@MiximumDennis
@MiximumDennis Жыл бұрын
Literally no other champion gets basically rooted for 10 seconds after being stunned. She is insanely difficult just from her global taunt
@N3207H05
@N3207H05 Жыл бұрын
@@MiximumDennis well doesnt matter at all if you are permanently untargetable.
@MiximumDennis
@MiximumDennis Жыл бұрын
@@N3207H05 it does because if she is perma in w, she has almost zero pressure provided towards the enemy team.
@N3207H05
@N3207H05 Жыл бұрын
@@MiximumDennis XD wtf are you talkin its completly the other way around. without her w she cant use her q she cant heal anyone and hitting your ult is insanly difficult, so your pressure in w is like 1000 higher.
@MiximumDennis
@MiximumDennis Жыл бұрын
@@N3207H05 1000 higher for Yuumi but still less than Nautilus. YOu can't deny that
@mothgore
@mothgore Жыл бұрын
There is one thing that is hard with yuumi: your adc dies
@stalkandseduce4599
@stalkandseduce4599 Жыл бұрын
Great analysis 👍🏼🤗 forgot renata tou 😑
@flowerdance3414
@flowerdance3414 Жыл бұрын
Renata should be on the top for the following reason : slow Q and R, W need great cooperation with adc, hard to win lane against a lot of match up, and she does have a variety of different builds what will impact her playstyle and rune choices greatlly
@internationalarmy3984
@internationalarmy3984 Жыл бұрын
Renata kinda relays on the enemy comp with being a auto attack reliant and how fed they are because R as a ability is crap because of it only being like 2 seconds so it centered to how fast the enemy can auto
@piw3327
@piw3327 Жыл бұрын
As a gold supp main i kindly ask Why is yone on the list?💀
@AqworldsMew11
@AqworldsMew11 Жыл бұрын
That yuumi placement is only if your adc can understand what you are doing.
@cardplayer2124
@cardplayer2124 Жыл бұрын
Feels good. Bard mane sitting happy at 2.5 million champion points
@ccgamerlol
@ccgamerlol Жыл бұрын
I fully agree that mechanics are not the biggest changer in your game, I have never matched against a pyke that misses any of their abilities, play in silver, they never miss anything
@magdieldexter
@magdieldexter Жыл бұрын
That means the movement is predictable
@ingo1848
@ingo1848 Жыл бұрын
i would argue on xer cuz im kind off a one-trick xer supp and when i do play something diff and go against other xeraths in the botlane i see them making so many mistakes that are so important to not make which results in us winning lane and maybe even the game i think ive never lost lane to a xerath cuz most off them just cant play like he is supposed to be played and they just possition bad or make a bad decision which is the hard part about xer so ye idk he is not the best mage at all and is pretty hard to play and not lose especially if u have no experience on xer or at least other mages
@Teddy-se8qb
@Teddy-se8qb Жыл бұрын
its a shame what they did to pyke. "they massacred my boy"
@UnbornHeretic
@UnbornHeretic Жыл бұрын
I think Pyke just is so forgiving as a champion. His hook? Lowest cd hook in the game at 10 seconds base. His passive (especially with W) heals him of his mistakes. And he comes with a dash. Like it may be difficult to do plays with him but actually trying to punish or kill him is just unbalanced in my opinion.
@shirakolee
@shirakolee Жыл бұрын
So lets say you try to hook someone , it work , you stun them both , it work , you do amazing things and manage to lower both target to 20% hp , then you notice your adc is still hiting minions , or get killed by minions alone , you choose to run away , jgl is coming that way with vision , you run to your tower , mid is coming , finaly you hide on that strange added spot on both side of the map , but you see the top tping at an hidden ward I would definitly be more fine while using blitz near tower and graping ppls under it lol
@UnbornHeretic
@UnbornHeretic Жыл бұрын
@@shirakolee you dodge blitz hook. It takes a third of his mana and you can bully him for 15 seconds. You dodge a pyke hook? You can bully him for 7 seconds and he regens it all with his passive.
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods Жыл бұрын
His hook slows himself and you need to wait to cast it to it's max range, plenty of time to get behind a minion, his dash can get stopped by so many things, like thresh e instantly stops it, he can't do anything to Leona Rell, naut etc. Plus in the late game, he dies instantly contributing almost nothing except random pick attempts which usually don't do anything
@UnbornHeretic
@UnbornHeretic Жыл бұрын
@@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods I never said he was easy. Just forgiving. I wouldnt call ezreal a necessarily easy champion to be effective with. But he's definitely the safest ADC.
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods Жыл бұрын
@@UnbornHeretic he's not forgiving, he has to use all his spells to get to you and he has to commit on every engage, his dash is super long and it has to go right up to you and probably past you, so if a jungler is there then he's dead. I used to main him, I'm aware of how he works
@MrTeenEMean
@MrTeenEMean Жыл бұрын
Major disrespect to Zilean in this video
@yuumijungle548
@yuumijungle548 Жыл бұрын
currently playing yuumi for fun because im not in mood of actually playing the game, even while playing other games, eating or watching youtube videos or even watching the new bleach anime, im sitting at a 70% winrate with a kda of 15:1, yuumi basically turns even games into autowins and hard games into auto losses, like usually unless your smurfing basically, so while it might not be the fastest climb youll get, its the most consistent, its literally just a matter of how many games you play. basically a zero effort climb.
@slayz1515
@slayz1515 Жыл бұрын
Why is Orianna not on the list?
@internationalarmy3984
@internationalarmy3984 Жыл бұрын
I don’t even see her in my games but only once in my 2 years of playing
@slayz1515
@slayz1515 Жыл бұрын
@@internationalarmy3984 it isn’t well know. Hell I didn’t know about it until last week but man is it good. I am a support main and I have fell in love with how much I can impact the game with her
@taylorgalloway2579
@taylorgalloway2579 Жыл бұрын
Where would you put fiddlesticks?
@Slapsamillion
@Slapsamillion Жыл бұрын
Karma: summarized in 5seconds lol
@Skaarlxrd
@Skaarlxrd Жыл бұрын
the please like the video tab xDD
@Test-iv4pm
@Test-iv4pm Жыл бұрын
On paper, Annie should be allowed to last hit some minions with Q to stack her passive. This seems like incredibly useful thing.... I guess the issue is that team ADC will tilt if you do it.
@fastcow7013
@fastcow7013 Жыл бұрын
Relic shield
@Test-iv4pm
@Test-iv4pm Жыл бұрын
When did Xerath become "not very good as support"? Seems like just yesterday he was one of the most powerful, underrated, and underplayed supports in the game.
@BoodyDarknes
@BoodyDarknes Жыл бұрын
Im suprised malphite made it on the list while Vex or LB did not, while vex moustly played when she was just oute couse every 1 wanted to try her oute every where they could, LB on the other hand i see from time to time poping up as support, mosutly when its OTP LB that did not get mid i guess :D also i some times go for sylas support if i see enemy amumu support.
@raphaelmerino100
@raphaelmerino100 Жыл бұрын
I Don't think you actually did justice to TK. People forget that this guy after the rework, actually has A LOT of mechanics. He can hook people, he can do plays with Ults and Abyssal dives, he can do kidnap plays. He can roam a lot, he can also collapse into walls to deny his Abyssal Dive Vision and just pop out of nowhere. As a Person who every season climbs to Challenger with Wardens I have to say: The champion is together with Thresh in number of pocket tricks. The issue is, he is way harder to pull it due to the cooldowns and people now being aware that you can actually do insane things with the fish.
@ExtraPorkin
@ExtraPorkin Жыл бұрын
Yone and Malphite on this list but not teemo? Teemo shuts off enemy adc for blind duration, Can stack dark harvest insanely fast, Once he gets level 6 he can force the enemy to play defensively or can go lock down enemy jungle. Malphite only has his R. Yone had a Zoro Moment.
@Analyst760
@Analyst760 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a video on most fun Champs to play?
@shirakolee
@shirakolee Жыл бұрын
Singed and teemo are my favorite For ioki it seems to be mf and senna Some players like to one shot Some like to never die (tank shaco) It depend on ppls taste
@somo4227
@somo4227 Жыл бұрын
bard
@virtuagianni6797
@virtuagianni6797 Жыл бұрын
my main champs are nautilus zyra and rell mained zyra and nautilus to 400k then mained rell top and i'm at 200k on her with a good winrate
@dialexneves
@dialexneves Жыл бұрын
I agree on what you said on Pyke but his abilities have very low cooldown so you are not risking anything from missing a combo. He has tons of mobility, and is a pretty straight forward character unlike Bard. You can fairly succed in any game by just being present since your execution is easy to land and shares gold. I would put this champion on the Kinda Hard tier.
@somo4227
@somo4227 Жыл бұрын
he has low HP tho,if bard misses Q he doesnt instantly die to any long range poke,dude can stay in lane a while,put shrines,roam and when hes back he can get a lot of healing off shrines shrines are super underrated,yeah they cost 70 mana but bard gets a lot of mana from the chimes anyways,bard also has more range and a better Q(in some ways)
@hide3930
@hide3930 Жыл бұрын
pyke cd are lik 5s Q 7s E in late depends on what you build and that's actually alot when you see other mobile champ, the thing which is hard isn't hitting the R it's that you have to know when someone has flash cd, dash cd, heal cd, or smthing which make them invincible like stopwatch. In late if you engage you die and if you don't build duskblade in teamfight you'll probably die by pressing R
@Test-iv4pm
@Test-iv4pm Жыл бұрын
Need a new hardest tier for Vel'Koz. Playing this champion to his max potential is unmatched.
@alejandronepomuseno
@alejandronepomuseno Жыл бұрын
lol
@stephenlauderdale7885
@stephenlauderdale7885 Жыл бұрын
Amazing, well put. I would say everyone else doesnt understand the difficulty of Support Life lol. Love this video.
@shirakolee
@shirakolee Жыл бұрын
The main dificulty is to be lucky with the adc , if your adc auto attack the target when this one have only 10% hp left and is near him , well you're good with any champ
@rafaelsalgado5123
@rafaelsalgado5123 Жыл бұрын
I kinda was in the same vibe as you on most of the champions but damn, pyke and thresh just threw me off. Pyke is a champ that simply works if you roam, especially if you roam with your jungle and thresh, just as you said is a champion that always brings something for the team, I kinda get what you said with the mechanically heavy, but let's be real he has the riven style of mechanics they are hard to fully master, but for you to do a good job as a support you only need to scratch the surface. I don't know, maybe I was just thrown off because you but them in the same tier as bard, which in my eyes is like kinda the aphelios of support (as in he is EXTREMELY hard to play, but if you are good on him you are almost a god), but those two just threw me off completely.
@arruhunahya7593
@arruhunahya7593 Жыл бұрын
as a main of both, i kinda agree that pyke and thresh kit is pretty straightforward, it doesn't take a genius to understand how they work, what left is either you can land the hook or not, compared to other hook champs i'm gonna say thresh got the hardest hook to land due to it slow casting animation, not to mention it's not really a "hook", while pyke hook isn't as hard to land it's actually kinda predictable, his kit saved him from being punished after missing a hook tho, however the hardest part of playing them is not to learn how to use them, while their skill floor isn't as high as bard, their skill ceiling is as high if not higher, if bard is like aphelios of a support, pyke and thresh is kinda like a lee shin and yasuo of support because you can't do a lot of crazy stuff with them.
@Kiriemy
@Kiriemy Жыл бұрын
Funny how I see Yuumi is hard in the thumbnail when someone did play as adc and support at the same game and he is using his feet to control yuumi
@thabigdog3286
@thabigdog3286 Жыл бұрын
Where would you rank Amumu, I’ve been seeing a lot of hm lately and thinking of adding the sad mummy to my pool to give him another friend
@internationalarmy3984
@internationalarmy3984 Жыл бұрын
I think he’s easy when paired with a MF because once they both hit their R, it is a pain to get out.
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods
@Smashedhiskeyboardupinthewoods Жыл бұрын
I swear he was a jungler before, him being support just popped out of nowhere
@blackmetron298
@blackmetron298 Жыл бұрын
first of all thank you for the video .. like it alot .. but there is one Champ i am missing .. WHERE IS TEEMO xD
@i0kiVids
@i0kiVids Жыл бұрын
Next time I do this video, Teemo will be present :)
@somo4227
@somo4227 Жыл бұрын
bard kinda plays like ivern,both are roaming suports but one plays in the suport lane and the other in the jg lane
@sahelanthropus4991
@sahelanthropus4991 Жыл бұрын
Coming from the future - where is K'Sante
@user-lr9ie3cv9s
@user-lr9ie3cv9s Жыл бұрын
Where is my Kog'Maw support? For me, this champion is one of easiest supports, at least in my low-elo.
@thibaultherman2291
@thibaultherman2291 Жыл бұрын
where does Zilean rank?
@lemonkei6902
@lemonkei6902 Жыл бұрын
I don’t quite know why you put naut over Leona in difficulty, Leona has the ability to e through minions and can w to absorb a lot of damage, but during the early game she is way squisher than nautilus. In almost all situations early game and mid game if you’re on par, nautilus can just walk over without even using q and just root, e block pathing and q if they try to flash away because he just has a ridiculous amount of stats that just makes him bonkers, his w outright blocks minion damage with the shield unlike Leona, plus adds more damage on every auto, making attack speed nasty on him. He’s also one of the few champs that can go full ap and still be really tanky meaning he can do ridiculous damage and just walk away, he’s also able to build ad and build strikebreaker to add more cc to his kit with a w root auto and stride, it saves your e as a second slow meaning you’ll end up with q again after permanently slowing/ccing them and can repeat the process. As a watered down version of what I said: nautilus can walk through minions and just go in due to just having the stats and kit to do so, whereas Leona has to look for that positioning from my experience as a Leona and nautilus player. Like you said most tanks are brain dead, and I will tell you now, nautilus is probably the most brain dead tank support besides maokai.
@notarealchannel6537
@notarealchannel6537 Жыл бұрын
No MF support? The poke is unreal and her W is pretty much impossible to miss. R is a fight winner if you can position her well and can be insane for counter engages.
@nateryan7057
@nateryan7057 Жыл бұрын
Good to know my 3 most played champs all time are the 3 you have at extremely hard. Have I just been making my life more difficult than it needs to be?
@emeraldkillr803
@emeraldkillr803 Жыл бұрын
12.20 coming to bliztcrank like candy
@Xener09
@Xener09 Жыл бұрын
Thumbnail is a good bait
@Test-iv4pm
@Test-iv4pm Жыл бұрын
I agree with putting the best roamers in the hardest tier.
@kamilhajek253
@kamilhajek253 7 ай бұрын
As a thresh main, im telling you, he is not that hard, but there is problem with his lantern, because almost nobody knows that if you click his lantern, it will pull you towards him, and if you dont know it.... You are welcome❤😊
@werewolftheforsaken
@werewolftheforsaken Жыл бұрын
where the first strike elise support at?
@murilosilva6962
@murilosilva6962 Жыл бұрын
zilean???
@howbyturno7343
@howbyturno7343 Жыл бұрын
I was waiting for Yone. Oh well...
@tiggynation
@tiggynation Жыл бұрын
the fact that Heimy isn't on here is a travesty
@hijikatasmayonnaise
@hijikatasmayonnaise Жыл бұрын
First time I played Lulu I got flamed by my whole team. Rakan and Blitz on the other side weren't the best picks on me, but still more valuble than Lulu
@jpgaming6829
@jpgaming6829 Жыл бұрын
How is there no Vi support? You have Yone, Sett, Shen but no VI :(
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