The Heretic's Fatal Flaw | Goddess of Victory: NIKKE Chapter 24 Analysis

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@Pyrrhixz Жыл бұрын

A few corrections for this video: 1: Johan shot Nihilister with a single round of Vapaus and not an entire clip. This area of the video was a mistake on my part. Nihilister was only shot once with Vapaus, preventing her regenerative capabilities temporarily. 2: The commanders blood can only be synthesized and turned into a bullet with using human cells. In this scenario, only Eden is capable of synthesizing the Commanders blood to weaponize into Vapaus.

@PS5Chan360 Жыл бұрын

And you also forgot they need certain materials to make it

@liteyearsx Жыл бұрын

I also believe it's important to note that Cecil states that the "Vapaus" within the Commander's blood immediately dissolves if not fused with human cells, which means normal weaponry cannot just be coated with Rh X blood to be turned into a super weapon. In short, the only place capable of making a suitable Vapaus bullet is Eden due to getting materials from Mother Whale.

@Pyrrhixz Жыл бұрын

Another good catch! Thank you for the clarification

@aej909 Жыл бұрын

Great observation. However, I am sure if the Central Government got a hold of this information, they will definitely begin secret operations to harvest human cells and turn the commander into a lab rat. Although as @HollowGraphic suggested at the end, the Central government even if they have the silver bullet to end the war might not want to, due to the authoritarian complete control they possess with the status quo on the Ark currently.

@joppejop7767 Жыл бұрын

@@Pyrrhixzalso just saying but we know the legendary commander had the blood as well based on chapter 17 and Anderson and mc are the only ones having it means Anderson is either the legendary commander or he's son/nephew it's more likely him being the son/nephew bc in 2b's story on chapter 4 rapi said the first war against raptures is from around 50 years ago so either Anderson doesn't age or he's son or nephew of the commander

@akira8393 Жыл бұрын

imagine for the sake of a plot twist, pinne will be back as a heretic. that would be crazy. personally i assumed that lilith is probably the queen, that or her brain is the core for the queen

@kasrkin100 Жыл бұрын

that be possible because we dont know how much number within Heretic.

@omegasol528 Жыл бұрын

I think the commander is a clone of the legendary commander made from the DNA/vapaus of the legendary commander

@theovirgil4612 Жыл бұрын

Not a bad theory considering the commander has stated his first memory was in a hospital.

@cmvp8422 Жыл бұрын

We have to remember the chief deputy has the same blood as us

@kevinnezukojk8870 Жыл бұрын

Or maybe the Commander IS the Legendary Commander, the Ark must've erased his memory completely and altered his appearance just so that no one couldn't recognize him. 🤔

@Challenger_YT Жыл бұрын

Or probably the commander is a ....the same person, son or someone relative to the legendary commander

@PS5Chan360 Жыл бұрын

Okay so when did anyone mention cloning in the story? It's a weak theory to pull unless it is featured in the game. But it's not.

@LostTone0 Жыл бұрын

I just love Liberalio design! 😮😮

@darelldeleon3510 Жыл бұрын

Here what I think will happen (copium): -After we defeat the Rapture Queen, Lilith is finally laid to rest - We get more backstory on the Legendary Commander. - Central Government will mark us as a wanted man for foiling their plan to keep everyone in the ark and frame us for a crime we did not commit because we did not give an ounce of vapaus. Enikk might also try to stop us. - The liberation of the Nikkes begin. - We will face a new type of enemy and what the future holds for the commander.(idk)

@omegasol528 Жыл бұрын

I don’t think that the case rapture are the big bad. And can wipe out the Ark if they wanted too. Enikk even admit this. I think if the current rapture queen is defeated the rapture still have an defacto leader. Whoever made the first queen.

@bluekn1210 Жыл бұрын

I have a theory that the raptures would actually be creations by humanity, since in the Nihilister bond story it is revealed that Nikke technology is compatible with that of the raptures and the creation of the heretics is the same as that of the Nikkes, that is, in a very similar way to horizon zero dawn of how humans were condemned with the machines they created. Which would mean that humans created the raptures but why did everything get out of control? I have a few theories as to how it all fell apart. 1-being betrayed by humans and instead of doing something, the corrupt like Oswald decided to let them attack humanity and promoting that these machines are monsters only to make their political agenda of controlling the masses and humanity a reality. and he relies more on Overzone when he abandons the Goddess because being the most powerful they would be a threat to his political agenda, and possibly they murdered the first commander because they saw him as a threat to their plans

@omegasol528 Жыл бұрын

So basically terminator.

@danttemarqueztuohy4385 Жыл бұрын

You make it sound like the Templar's (Assassin's creed saga) desire to control people

@bluekn1210 Жыл бұрын

@@danttemarqueztuohy4385 is that in fact if you connect the dots and look at small details. You will see that Nikke hides a huge conspiracy. 1-First we have Ovezone, as it was shown to us, it does not seem strange to you that Oswald closed access to Goddess because supposedly they were discontinued but decades later instead of making stronger Nikkes they made much weaker models that cannot even match pilgrims like Noah or Elizabeth. and the fact that they are currently looking for the Pilgrims and Eden. reinforces the fact that the government does not want to help them, but rather to silence or eliminate them from the equation. 2- We have other important data from Ingrid, Andersen and Anis. in the Anis Bond story as the event of Chainsaw man it is mentioned that the city of the ark. They have chips for the government to monitor their actions and know where each citizen is. With Andersen we have that any shocking or Pilgrim data is hidden from the government as seen in the chainsaw man event after defeating Gate, Andersen mentions that they will hide all traces of what happened and make sure nothing happened. And it is further reinforced, when we enter the pilgrim tower when Andersen himself says that the data of the pilgrim as the tower itself are hidden from the same government and that only he and the comdanate should know of its location. and with Ingrid is the fact that along with Rapi he hides the existence of Red Hood within the NIKKE. 3- Another piece of information is the supposed deaths of Johan and the first commander who were nicknamed heroes of humanity. Let's recap, it doesn't seem suspicious to you that just when humanity with the first commander and Johsn were making enormous progress in recovering the surface. Goddess' commander disappeared and Johan was imprisoned for alleged treason? this is obviously done by the government itself in an attempt not to ruin their plans. At first, the crow herself said it after Goddess's actions generated Nikkephobia and that was promoted by the government because if we compare it with Eden that there is equality between humans and Nikkes we will see the difference and even another reason why they want to locate Eden . Because if they treated the Nikkes with love, they would be able to fight better against the raptures by protecting their commanders, as seen with the current MC, which allows the Nikkes to fight with all their hidden potential. Rather, the disappearance of Goddess's commander was rather a government assassination because the latter knew that someone like the first commander would be a threat to their control plans because by treating Dorothy and company with love, he would make more people follow his example and They would doubt if they are really the weapons that the government says. 4- and another fact and the most important we see why even the government conspires to kill ENIKK if we remember in the overzone epilogue when Dorothy interrogates a Nikke from the ark, the latter mentions that the government is gathering the brightest minds to overthrow Enikk because according to his words "he represents a threat" but if we think about it, the only bad thing Enikk did was the deal with Chatterbox and nothing else. and even in the recent chapters we see that Enikk helped counters in defending the ark. so the question What is this supposed threat in Enikk that the government says? Well, easy is not dangerous, but rather that Enikk would be a threat to his population control plans. and it was seen at the end of chapter 24 that Enikk herself said that the following NIKKES would be designed and built by herself as EH and Siyuen. so don't be surprised that both siyuen and EH once are Nikkes these two are more powerful than the ark's nikkes and even with enough power to equal a pilgrim. With all that has been said and connecting the dots we will see that all of Nikke is nothing more than a government conspiracy to keep the population under control in an illusion and comply with their political agendas. And the most ironic of all this, the culprit for this to happen was Snow White herself. because by accepting the rejection to enter and say what to protect. humanity was the greatest achievement and leaving it like that simply gave the government a green card to implement its birth control plans causing a chain reaction of tragedies such as the fall of the goddess, enikk's treatment of chatterbox and the actions of Crow. In other words, the most heroic Nikke as Snow White is responsible for leading humanity to its own downfall.

@danttemarqueztuohy4385 Жыл бұрын

@@bluekn1210 Wow, honestly, I had a vague idea of the Nikkes treatment and the goverment relationship with it, but this opened my mind even more. And for finishing your answer, the "outpost" Commander, his team, the Pilgrims, Eden and Enikk will represent the desire to help and change humanity for the best and improve Nikkes treatment. So they can finish the Rapture's wars and reclaim the surface once and for all. Just like the Assassin's creed mission to protect humanity's freedom against control, oppression and injustice. Thank you for your opinion, it clears my perception of the story😊

@liteyearsx Жыл бұрын

@HollowGraphic Thanks for making so many videos about Nikke lore. You're the only channel on KZbin that does, and as a lore nut for any game that I enjoy, I greatly appreciate it. However, just a thing I noticed in the video: Johan only had one Vapaus bullet in his gun. You said he had a full magazine which made me raise an eyebrow.

@Pyrrhixz Жыл бұрын

I did realize that after I made the video lol. He had one as a bluff and then normal rounds. By the time I noticed the vid was posted! I’ll do a correction shortly. Thank you!

@jhoanerougarterolazartero3733 Жыл бұрын

Everybody talks about the rapture queen, but what about the rapture king!!!!

@kevinmarley4596 Жыл бұрын

About the black box nihilister spoke of that really important too I think commander’s blood type and black box unrelated this matter

@Towlie-pd3jn Жыл бұрын

Great video as always pleb! I will be here for the next one!

@erroldrommond9149 Жыл бұрын

what if the queen is not the "queen", but something made up to throw people off "someone" track.

@GardeBot Жыл бұрын

I have to agree with you, once we actually defeat the queen, be it by killing her or converting her, the outpost will most likely be forced to cut ties with the Ark. We might even loose Neon (she's a spy) when this happens. I can totally see it that all the Nikkes you have on the Outpost no longer have NIMPH and still chose to defend you. I don't know exactly who's going to be the main villian here if Burningum or Andersen, but the story so fars seems to point that we do get to liberate the Nikkes and the Central Gov will not like us doing that

@omegasol528 Жыл бұрын

The raptures are the main villains. They are like a ants just because if we defeat the current queen thier still the deaf to leader. Who ever made the first rapture queen.

@Ty_Jac Жыл бұрын

@@omegasol528 They are and yet humanity itself is equally and issue considering what happened soon after recovering marian after becoming a heratic. The central government finding out a lot of what we know as the commander would impact the story a lot since its equivalent to making enemy with the last bastion of humanity: The Ark. Scary thought. Humanity will always bring out the worst of it in even a post apocalyptic world.

@omegasol528 Жыл бұрын

@@Ty_Jac the central government is corrupted. I think with the lost of lilwiess humanity gave up on NIKKES as hope and only use them as tool as their best commander and squad fail to stop them. And who is the first rapture queen? A rouge A.1 an about Alien robot? Are rapture actual aliens that mimic human technology or are they man made with A.I advance thier weapon and armor century ahead of humanity.

@kenchen704 Жыл бұрын

Anderson I feel like is with us. I think he knows exactly how we feel about what’s going on in the central government.

@akirandrake414 Жыл бұрын

Neon is a spy for one of the companies, specifically the woman who's on our side most of the time. So it's unlikely.

@Tommydiistar Жыл бұрын

Anderson is the legendary commander if you reach chapter 24 it is a plain as day it’s him

@GOLDEN_SHOWER_TOWER Жыл бұрын

What'll probably happen is that by the time the commander meets the Rapture Queen, he'll be such a Chad, he'll just clap her cheeks and Bam! Peace between Raptures and Humans. LOL!! But to be 69% serious, I think itll be an emotional ride for Pioneer. I expect Liliths body will be used against them somehow. Pioneer would definately follow us when we go after the Queen. Thoughtful Nut

@g.2.lmusicboxx651 Жыл бұрын

My next mission is getting over the Lvl 160 Wall

@munchielitten5961 Жыл бұрын

i have to give nihilister a thumbs up for making it this far but sad to see her go cuz she was going to die either way umless she joimed us but seeing this she made the wrong move for her self brining those two back so im glad we get to have have as a rehabilitate alt ending for her rather then a story dead character also once i do get her itll be a nihilister ghost facing the pricks that killed her back for vengance once a nikke always a nikke plus i feel so bad for her after finding this out she died not once but 3 times how as a human turned nikke sh may as well not be alive or who she oringonally was then turned rapture after death in a battle long ago during the ark closing doors and now fellow ratures sent her to a rather grosome death pit at least i hope she gets away but since its implied sigh yeah likely chatter box made shure she wasnt getting away shame but it was 1 of three choices die by them or liberoro or join the counters