The Hero Dead by Daylight Needs

[@austinx10]

The GOAT is back!! Love your videos man!

[@seanplaysgames2551]

i hope hes better mentally, seeing that video again a bit more than a year later, he seemed very avoidant of dbd and even terrified of the idea of making dbd content, hopefully hes better and doesnt make things worse again just for views, nikocado does the same

[@b2superbattledroid977]

Yeah he was low on views lol

[@jossamar]

His other content was weak, it makes sense to return to what the bulk of his viewers are interested in. It's just the job.

[@YukiSatagawa]

Mmmmm!

[@YukiSatagawa]

@@jossamar Bruh it not weak. Just bc the fanbase was mainly for dbd don't mean his other content really enoyed. It may not be as strong as the dbd content, but still don't mean it weak

[@Cazzyy]

kills = skills is still one of the funniest videos in dbd history. it's completely unmatched in comedy

[@ItsFactor]

Rivaled only by a pretty good job so far LOL

[@Shiokishisan]

yes and no

[@joshuawadsworth6417]

"Go play civ 6 then" - Mathieu Cote

[@brewingtea1]

And to think it all happened because of a random Wordle

[@itsOasus]

If anything, Patrick showed how ignorant he was about hockey because those stats are STILL FREAKING TRACKED!!!!!!!

[@Libellulaire]

Right. I don't think there's any sports where the overall performances aren't tracked. And usually players who do a lot for their team, create pressure and occasions are highly respected and considered incredibly skilled, it's not just about scoring at all.

[@voiceoftheguns27]

How many games had skilled goals that resulted in a loss? Guess it wasn't really a skilled goal if the team lost since that same player couldn't score all the skilled goals. What Patrick never once thought about is that skilled plays have made and still make top 10 on Sports Center even if that team lost...back when Sports Center was fun to watch.

[@edb4ll165]

The fact that this man was one of the LEADING game devs whilst throwing out statements like this is just a testament to BHVR’s mismanagement

[@ObsidianLiger]

When you skill is soo high, BHVR has to nerf your playstyle to compensate ... damn even the game devs got outskilled

[@YukiSatagawa]

That partttt!

[@fabiopauli420]

When the world needed him most, he returned

[@Punani0]

I’ve prayed for this day

[@KingJam3S]

no he needed rent money lol

[@1vShanks]

@@KingJam3S😂😂😂😂

[@dubrasri9723]

Bro pulled a reverse Avatar

[@Barec76]

He needs the money lol😊

[@bluemyst42]

I hate that BHVR just nerfs overpowered perks without buffing underpowered/underutilized ones. There are some perks that see absolutely no use that could be fun, but BHVR is too busy with making new chapters to sell and cosmetics. I get that thats where the money comes from, but if no one is left to buy stuff in the shop then it doesnt matter.

[@uriellauretta8219]

they have been changing that design philosophy with all latest patches

[@Coblit3]

​​@@uriellauretta8219 Somewhat, which is nice but they really need to be putting out more perk reworks/buffs

[@Predated2]

I mean, sometimes you dont need to buff underutilized ones because they are simply good already. You dont need to buff Left Behind. It does exactly what it says on the tin and you dont really need a bigger range either as there are plenty of locations on maps you can hide to discover hatch. Sometimes, all that is needed to shake up the meta is just nerfing the overpowered perks and adding a downside to overutilized perks. In fact, all they need to do, is add +25% bloodpoints post-game for top 10 least used perks and a -20% bloodpoints post game for top 10 most used perks and scale accordingly (like the next 40 perks being 10/15%). That way, people have a reason to use or not use certain perks. Learn how to use them to their advantage and the devs get much much more data and feedback on what people actually are feeling is wrong with those perks. As an example, Flip Flop is an absolutely awful perk for what it does. It's anti-slug, but not really since there are only 2 places where you'd have to be slugged for 30 seconds to be able to wiggle out. You need other perks to either speed up the self-recovery, slow down the killer while walking (or have a teammate increase the wiggle speed) and hope the killer drops down a little while using Boiled Over. Anti-slug perks should be threatening enough that a killer doesnt want you left on the floor. And Flip Flop, in my opinion, would need a 75% conversion rate. That way, if the killer just slugs a little bit to create pressure, its fine, but if he slugs for the sake of slugging, they are very likely gonna wiggle out.

[@BigLadle99]

​@@Predated2you should not be punished for using perks lol. Horrible take

[@Ssebyt12]

try play the game whit no gen defense on eu at high sbmm in 6 min all gens are done u maybe u get 2 hooks

[@Yervy]

welcome back!

[@skmkr5222]

I want Patrick to join the Overwatch devs so I don't have to see the losing team getting play of the game.

[@Bkwjr87]

w video Dowsey. I also happened to run into Almo during this most recent anniversary event (yes, they still work for bhvr). they were, coincidentally, playing The Pig. They tunneled each player one at a time and stayed just out of "anti-camp" range to protect the hooks. I got to end-game expecting to see some random gamer....but to my surprise, they had the developer badge and banner proudly on display. It had to have been such a gratifying moment for them to know that they showed how incredible their skill was in that particular game. Just thought you'd be comforted knowing that some things never change.

[@dovahgoatdragonbear3075]

Almo's a they?

[@DeputyFish]

@@dovahgoatdragonbear3075 you people literally forgot what they means now dont you?

[@DraknirMoks]

​@dovahgoatdragonbear3075 you can use 'they' to refer to an ndividual, while not necessarily having to do with pronouns. Why make problems when there isn't one?

[@RazzleTheRed1]

They really did deserve to get clowned on after they took your shirt away, that shit was so petty of them XD

[@Cedisium]

the hockey analogy was always a wild one to me, because they do count shots and they also count assists, not just goals. if they only counted goals that would be absurd

[@AaronScotz]

DOWSEY. He's so back!

[@hackysac4528]

It's sad too because I LOVE the idea of the Knight and Skull Merchant. Not camping gens, but a medieval killer with summons is so cool getting to chase and cut off is a neat tool that has counter-play with the flag. A tech based killer that has a counter play with deactivating traps with tasks sounds amazing but they both end up having toxic gameplay loops. Just want a fun version of them so I can play them and not get DCd on instantly.

[@akahutch]

When I first started playing dbd on the old ranking system I used to always play people better than me and enjoyed the games. Now I don’t know the last time I played against a good killer or someone who’s not slugging for a 4k or camping you til death

[@TheOnlyChoy]

At 7:21 you can see the meme that got me blocked by Patrick. Also, welcome back Dowsey!

[@icy_demons_]

Kills = skill is such a legendary video. God i laughed so hard when i saw it in that period of dbd time and when it was so relevant. Best dbd video by a long shot

[@avwholesomegamer]

They even took stacks away from BBQ & Chili - they hated every little part of the “play for hooks” style.

[@theenderking111]

And they removed the bp bonus from it under the pretense of “reducing the bp grind”

[@Yigit_Efe_Dalyan]

the self glaze is real

[@copium7845]

honestly i wouldn't mind them having like a 50% - 75% extra bloodpoint bonus for everyone using a perk randomizer. I think it would make for a lot of fun games where people just use it for fun, and still get a little reward. Its not forced, it can be used in the normal queue and in a best case scenario it causes more variation in the game, in a worst case scenario it does nothing, and its just a small gimmick for a handful of people

[@Mistarpotato]

The Saviour of DBD has returned, too bad he had to scam us in Twitch chat first.

[@Shiokishisan]

Honestly seeing your reaction on content like this is so lovely. Rly missing it. I still regret posting that age like wine and milk meme back then but im glad ur back and hope you enjoy your stay

[@Benjo_]

Wow this caught me by surprise! Really happy to see your name next to a DBD vid again!

[@SkaterBlades]

His logic was fucked beyond belief, apparently the meg crouching in a corner the whole game waiting for hatch is more skilled than the team that did 4 gens with 3 active players - new survivor meta guys

[@Goofyballer42]

rents due lil bruh

[@mattlitery]

You could not live with your own failure, and where did that bring you? Back to me - DBD

[@Sp1tfire_5316]

I've been so tired of sweating for 4ks that i took a 2 month break from dbd came back and started doing no blink/walking nurse builds. Iri matchbox with batteries included, play, tinkerer, and fire up. I've had way more fun doing this than i had b4 my 2 month break even back to when the knight came out. I still get 4ks every few matches but the most fun part is testing how to make a 3.8 meter a second killer playable without using her power. What also started this was me getting really motion sick when using blinks and getting tired of playing the same killers over and over. I even get dcs sometimes and it makes me laugh bc ppl scream nurse is op but i play no blink nurse and some ppl still dc like what do want besides an easy win? I havent played much dbd lately bc queue times r garbage unless ur playing survivor and there is only so much solo q i can play in a day but glad to see u back dowsey

[@smithbrown2848]

You should try out the 4.6 huntress, throw away your hatchets at start and just play as an m1 killer. Bring enduring and respect nothing. Then once they get wise and start throwing pallets, reload and play normally

[@Sp1tfire_5316]

@@smithbrown2848 I might do that thanx for the suggestion

[@RedRan6er]

Remember when he had a meltdown over the new bloodweb being a bit slow at the ptb and harassed the devs?

[@Skillfulstone]

I think one of the main reasons why BHVR makes kills take priority over hooks for MMR purposes is because non-sweaty people who find their fun in using the "giga-chad playstyle, 8 hooks before any kills" (trademark Scott Jund) will be thrown against insanely sweaty comp-level Survivors that will prevent them from actually playing in a fun way and will further promote sweaty playstyles (proxy-camp & tunnel). Farming/Friendly/memeing Killers would be unable to play like this eventually since they often get 8 hooks per game but have 0 kills which would pit them against competitive Survivor that would no longer play along. I'm not saying it's a _good_ thing necessarily, however it's one of the reasons I can see that would justify a system like this; people who don't sweat and seldom get 4ks will remain in a more casual environment while sweaty competitive people going on win streaks will end up against like-minded people.

[@darkzone2006]

Patrick doesn't work at BHVR anymore one thing done 😏🤣💀

[@WTH13SERIOUSLY]

Back in the day when I actually played this game, I would actually just go for hooks on purpose. I would shoot for 2 hooking everyone before actually securing the kill. Because I was able to shift my philosophy it really helped my overall experience just playing the game how I wanted. Although, it kind of artificially began to put me against lower skill players sometimes because my MMR would get reduced after getting a 8 or 9 hook game for example. But tbh my lobbies were very volatile anyway due to matchmaking. Idk it was a weird thing. And I still randomly had games I felt were totally impossible.

[@skyram7072]

Watch Patrick affect your dark and darker account😂

[@Emmetlovesredvelvet13]

Downey we missed ya man you're such a positive force of change in the fog good to see you back man

[@Shares1004]

Also still the high difference of difficulty in playing with randoms or with communication. I sometimes feel like DbD is not fixable, though it probably is with enough work and good ideas

[@PGFXKiu]

I'll never not find it funny when "competitive DBD" is mentioned, and then the term "Discord call" is mentioned right afterwards. Like, It's so ridiculously uphill for the killer at that point, because the game is literally designed around you needing perks for information and things of that nature. Getting rid of that gives survivors SUCH a huge advantage. Always ironic. That's beside the point though, love the video, and glad to see that Dowsey is doing so well and has lost so much weight! Love to see it.

[@Alice-yq6yy]

First watched Dowsey's video on kills= skills, then watched Coconuts' video on Dowsey's video on kills = skills and then watched Dowsey's video about Coconuts video on Dowsey's video on kills = skills

[@damadhattahttv]

that wordle was a genius move.

[@sunnyysss]

At 8 mins you were talking about your weight loss and bro I noticed it too way back that you look way healthier. Good on you man it take a lot of will power and effort! good on you

[@isymfs]

Somebody said Patrick got tunneled out of BHVR💀🤣

[@quietonegaming9160]

OMG!!! WHAT A GOOD TIME TO LIVE!!! DID YOU KNOW I’VE BEEN THROUGH A VERY ROUGH CHALLENGE FOR THE PAST WEEKS, AND SEEING THIS, YOU BROUGHT REAL JOY BACK TO MY LIFE, SO THANK YOU AND I LOVE TO SEE MORE DBD CONTENTS. I KNOW THIS MIGHT BE TOO MUCH, BUT YOU SAVED MY LIFE AND BROUGHT LIGHT TO MY DARKEST HOURS.

[@god9331]

just watched that specific coconut vid and a day later the champ is back. legendary

[@Grebolexa]

I feel like hooks = skill might also become a bit restrictive. People might not like it but to me it’s very fun having alternative win conditions such as pig traps and sadako condemn. Pinhead adds an extra objective and pyramid head has alternate hooks. I’d rather have unique gameplay for some killers but i understand if people don’t want stuff like that.

[@The_Nocturnal_Raven]

It’s the same with me. I look at Identity V’s killer roster, and they have so much more interesting powers compared to DBD’s… it’s just sad to see.

[@copperkid95]

Still can't believe Dowsey came back, 2v8 really is healing dbd

[@Ashy_Slashy3]

I knew he would and that's good cuz the future dlc's are gonna be awesome

[@SheepEnlightener]

Are you kidding me? 2v8 is the worst thing in DbD. The normal que time is SOOO long because of this chaotic nonsense. There is literally no gameplay in 2v8. It's a mess and only a resource eater. Magnet for the worst players, if you are new or an absolute casual player, maybe it's fun for you, but after 2 matches, enough is enough for a decent player. One of the worst if not the worst idea in DbD. The only positive thing is, there is no hook.

[@Ashy_Slashy3]

@@SheepEnlightener consider yourself one of the very few who think that

[@asterix1912]

​@@Ashy_Slashy3I stand by him. 2v8 is immensely boring for either side and although I want to like it, I just cannot get behind it because of how it has turnee out. It is unfun.

[@Ashy_Slashy3]

@@asterix1912 you know what? That's fine if you think that. Send some feedback to behavior and they might figure something out to balance it out for the player base

[@kmelugin]

You should be proud of your contributions. Your take on things is very helpful and it's obvious how much you care. Keep up the good work Dowsy!

[@leventedobay2696]

Actually big changes doesnt needed if the game is balanced and good. Like in div 2 they got a pretty balanced game, I mean it has its bugs and stuff but that the way how we like it. For now on they make a huge nerf about the game, changing its meta and half of your builds wont work so the hours of farming and collecting makes a waste of time. To be precise they make the only build you can go on any mission withouth an issue a huge nerf. So all Im trying to say, sadly its a pattern in the industry that people whom are responsible for game design or balancing dont really get whats the problem or just simply dont care. Its so sad

[@Lascivar]

I've always wondered. If you're skillful enough to run a Killer for 5 gens with ease, could you not just continue doing it for one more minute to just escape?

[@lesnarthelobster2442]

We missed you

[@TexanShield]

That was a rather enjoyable watch 👍. I never knew about Patrick before this moment lol

[@CerealKillerPhD]

It's really nice seeing you queue up a game again Dowsey. The community has missed you. I hope DBD brings back some joy and fun for you (even if you choose to not stream it or make videos for it still) ❤

[@Mali8029]

This is the problem with asymmetric games is that the team that requires coordination is always going to be imbalanced, because if it isn't then the game is near impossible to win for the average player.

[@shoul1]

25:30 Unflattering pause for the win

[@JuanAntonioGarciaHeredia]

What was worse, Dead By Daylight or Dark and Darker?

[@TTVzenoxz]

Glad To See U Post Dowsey Cant Wait For More

[@Red_Ring_Of_Death]

I’ve missed you so much in the DBD community since you left Dowsey. You REALLY don’t know how much you meant to all of us.

[@gdmt]

Nice to have you back. I stopped playing as well when you stopped. Just been watching your old vids. Now that you posted this, hoping youre back in the game and give the current state a shot again

[@marciking5223]

I knew you would come back just didnt know when, welcome back!

[@lolscorpion103]

Good grief how huge is this guy's ego to call himself dbd's hero when he cannot take a bit of criticism

[@bevq2246]

No wonder Patrick left, there was truly no coming back from that 😭

[@Skillfulstone]

Damn, pretty rare to hear a (former) DBD consultant absolutely destroy the devs by calling out how feedback is mostly ignored even internally.

[@justalyx7952]

Update: BHVR in order to not make Houndmaster too op, nerfed the STBFL add-on then made her dog an aimbot and left for holidays. Game is literally unplayable rn.

[@Zxaparts]

Dowsey sacrifice himself to wake up the devs and fix the game like the community wants still ignore him but then fix some of it after months

[@Ashy_Slashy3]

That's true. But he wasn't the first. True was technically the first to get blacklisted by behavior

[@defiasaxeman]

Hey Dowsey! Glad to see one of your videos pop back up on my feed! I haven't finished the video yet and I'm sure you're not looking to get into everything dbd. In the video your talking about the hooks vs kills debate being 3 years old... which made me think of the AMA where they said it would take years to add survivor loadouts to the lobby or loading screen... YEARS... There was a video of Otz talking about how BHVR has no drive to improve this game where this is mentioned, but yeah... just wanted to point that one out to ya.

[@Redwood021]

Dowsey!!! Good to see you bro! Absolute legend 🤙

[@LordPootis]

the man himself has returned! glad to see it!

[@snowprice188]

Even if its temporary im so happy to see you enjoy yourself in dbd again. Ive watched you for so long and your comments on dbd are some of the most informative and insightful. Also your hardcore survivor vids especially with the editing were awesome. Love you man

[@mazm851]

Welcome back dowsey, missed seeing you upload

[@SpikeBarren]

I’m still on board for kills=skills. I hate the way the game plays ever since

[@MonkeyBurrito]

There's a toxic fog whisperer who literally just camps and shit talks and was a small streamer. Not sure if he's still part of the program but it's crazy that they allowed that longer then they allowed Dowsey to have shirts lmao

[@caineclouse]

When killers can camp you out all day but object gets nerfed, Hate when that happens

[@seeby6963]

We are so fucking back

[@daxx1985]

the absolute disconnect that patrick showcased in that statement, is the crux of what has been wrong with dbd for so long

[@groudonmario]

The Summoning Salt Music hits hard

[@not_whysea]

When I first started playing dbd and watching content creators, I thought Dowsey was Ayrun and vice versa. Good to see you’re a whole independent individual. Let’s play Dowsey!

[@krugozor3904]

Lookie loo! Welcome back, lad!

[@ItsFactor]

Welcome back man

[@skeletoasty]

DOWSEY with the DBD comeback was not on my 2024 bingo card

[@roninchris3679]

Dowsey you legend. Seeing you click that ready button was like a hero of legend returning to a story :) I remember you had a really tough time mentally back then and I sincerely hope you are feeling better in yourself man. I loved watching your vids, seeing your plays and listening to your excellent commentary. I look forward to seeing more videos from you on DBD if you are willing to make them for us, but please don’t push yourself mate. If you don’t feel it, stop whenever you want to. Great to see you back man.

[@WiseMan20]

welcome back man!!! you have been missed fr

[@Lovyxia]

Balancing things needs to be used as a deliberate way of encouraging interactive and diverse playstyles. A lot of obsession perks, for example, could be perfectly balanced but make the game unfun due to their incentivizing tunneling either the obsession or increasing the chance to tunnel the same survivor by ignoring the obsession. Perks like Remember me that do not affect the obsession at all practically force you to kill a certain player early, and dying due to being "marked" randomly is not fun for survivors. I believe Behaviour needs to keep perks that encourage interactive play and counterplay at the highest level of performance, while making other perks weak, situational to leave them as meme/variety choices for people such as the dev Almo who was shown and should have the ability to enjoy his more niche type of fun, but simply not at the expense of the general playerbase's enjoyment and health of the core gameplay. Card games do this with uninteractive decks so DbD can certainly do this with playstyles but they need to have the courage to use the dev talent in their team toward this goal rather than simple spreadsheet numbers.

[@Lovyxia]

It really feels like there's talent in the team that leadership positions are very simply suppressing. 2v8 being some of the most fun I've had because it had the bravery of touching some core gameplay elements and changing them rather than adding band-aids really gave me the impression that it's something where the talent was allowed to be creative in this otherwise stale and flawed game that could be so, so much more than it is. Bad management is just so standard in games and it sucks and breaks my heart everytime I see the glimpses of talented people shine through for only mere moments.

[@jboysalem1388]

they couldve fixed it if they have data and added leaderboards on most avg chased time, avg down time, most kills, most save/support, most escape, most gens, And overall playstyle. with that overall data leaderboard implemented on mmr then people will compete very well and change the meta to get the most score.

[@Nightbane104]

Welcome back buddy. Glad to have you back.

[@ictoast4221]

The winer is back time to avoid Dbd and the toxic play style

[@jonathanpahnke7739]

I was legit just saying how much I missed your content on DBD welcome back. :)

[@TheNova51]

Bros tryna ride the dbd hype wave again 💀

[@LunaticSoldiers]

It is just wild that they tried to simplify it so much. When I was watching competitive DBD tournaments, the game was so wildly in the Survivor's favor that it seemed like Killers needed these tools just to keep up or else they would be snowballed. Then you go into pub matches and the Killers are reigning supreme against your average SWF, let alone randos. DBD simply can't be balanced to make both populations happy. Through the virtue of how the game has been fundamentally designed, there likely isn't a solution that will work for both. Pick a target group and lean into making the game more fun for them. In this case, pub matches hold the largest amount of potential revenue and the highest chance of keeping the game alive, so it is better to balance the game around them. Encouraging kills with no chance of survivor interaction does the opposite. Overcorrecting and creating an environment where Killers will never be able to wipe a lobby will also do the opposite. There has to be a middle-ground somewhere and it is on the devs to figure that out. I don't know if they can do that without making some big fundamental changes. At least, not without what Dowsey said in the video, bringing innovation to the game. Imagine if the game was more than just "Holding Interact" simulator on generators? What if there were "minigames" where you had to interact with the map to find parts that would allow you to complete an "escape objective" that isn't just randomly pressing a skill check, that isn't really a skill check? What if first hooks were guaranteed to never die on hook, and instead would eventually be able to just pull themselves off regardless of how close the Killer is? Second hooks could never die, but could also not pull themselves off. Third hooks are death as they are now. These changes would deter campers and it would prevent sweaty gen rushing, at the very least.

[@Imnotgivingmynametoamachine]

I ran a doctor once for 5 gens. While my team made a valiant effort, they were unable to get me out. I suck i guess...

[@hackysac4528]

Hours is a bad estimate too because I have 500 hours but play way stronger than those amount of hours. Then there's also people who take a long time or have no interest in "getting good" so they just have fun or are bad with tons of hours.

[@HommeGallium]

My problem with hooks > kills for MMR, is that tombstone Myers stomps beginners, therefore works really well and gets 4 kills with 0 hooks, therefore doesn't increase the MMR. That means that same Myers player won't face stronger survivors capable of countering the strategy, ever. They'll just continue stomping beginners. Same with Iri camping Huntress, camping Bubba, etc. Those strats work at lower MMR, but they work way less consistently at high MMR. If those killers' MMR don't go up, they'll just continue stomping beginners forever. Increasing their MMR is the way to make survivors able to counter them and punish the killer with harder matches. For killers, I really do think kills is the best way to decide MMR. I do agree for survivors MMR, the middleman is important.

[@Squishyprawn0]

Ngl I didn’t think DBD was a good game then my friends told me to just buy it and try it out so I did and it was so fun and dowsey and Demi had the most personality and that’s what made me stay a fun game with funny content creators and seeing dowsey leave hurt I’m glad he’s back to streaming DBD because the game was getting stale with the Same perks every game

[@draylontis346]

I havent seen any DBD content in my feed in years it feels like, Glad to hear it ended up going to a better place I guess.

[@anettelma123]

Sbmm/mmr is the biggest mistake they made in this game. I mostly play as a survivor, but the chase level is average, my knowledge is really good, but I usually play meme-builds, I want to relax. So after playing against mostly sweaty killers who tunneled, slugged, proxy camped, I was so angry that I decided to lose all my games from that point on, except for finding the hatch. And imagine the look on my face when nothing changed, and after a while one killer wrote to me in the post-game chat that he felt sorry for my experience, but me losing won't change anything, because if I go through the mmr soft cap, I won't drop. So I think from now on I'm doomed to lose most of my games forever, even if I try to win, until they change something about it. Lately I've been playing more as a killer, and maybe that's what I should do... Greetings from soloq player

[@sarmeister1699]

Anyone else still waiting for the continuation of his tournament?

[@Skillfulstone]

Honestly for me the most annoying thing is that BHVR keeps changing things that _no one complained about_ or change things that people _do_ complain about but go way too far (recent example: Ultimate Weapon, went from a good tracking perk to arguably one of the worst perks in the game). Another example is how, mostly because of 3-gen Dull Merchant and Knight players, they limited regression which indirectly made every regression perks except the two strongest ones (Pain Res & Pop, the latter having been recently further nerfed into being a meh perk because reasons) obsolete and a possible liability due to low return for a limited resource, this greatly reduced perk variety since perks activated by kicks were also affected by this and as such had a set limit to their value now. This also hurt weaker Killers much more due to them needing more slowdown if the Survivors know what they are doing. All those things, alongside the severe nerfs to some of the stronger chase perks (STBFL, Sloppy etc.) are directly responsible for the tunnelling increase, and decreased Killer and perk variety, that started in 7.5.0.

[@Behamut55]

Once i did the AFK Pig, and 3 Survs had the one Box i was standing at xD

[@KnotSavage]

what sweaty looks like would change though. (referring to if sbmm were based on hooks not kills) so itd be hard to say what that would look like. if theres just nicer killers going 12 hook instead of proxy camping or tunneling id say thats nicer even if it were the better way to play but like honestly i prefer how it was before when it was just "how much youve played this season"

[@stratos2851]

Holy shit, he has returned! Missed you dude

[@ohrogie]

So happy bro is uploading and streaming dbd

[@Dowmeinz]

damn bro nice to see you back and looking much healthier

[@PotateYT]

Slightly off topic, a dead by daylight mobile player received a lifetime ban for face camping a mobile dev back when behaviour owned the mobile game