The Hidden Genius of Voyager's Design

[@OrangeRiver]

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[@beepboop204]

but what about year zero?

[@-Bill.]

I think the variable geometry nacelles were to prevent the damage to subspace, which was shown in TNG and caused Starfleet to limit speeds to Warp 5 unless it was an emergency. Since the Intrepid class was designed for sustained high warp flight, it needed to prevent damage to subspace.

[@beepboop204]

me stoned so me hung up on "variable geometry nacelles" heuyhehehe

[@OllamhDrab]

I'm pretty sure that might have been mentioned, if not on screen, in some near-to-canon source.

[@OllamhDrab]

@@AlexRomeli I figure the moving nacelles was a stopgap until they figured out how to not need to do that. (ie, the Intrepid, being all cutting edge, was probably *designed* when everyone was bein like 'I can't drive Warp 5!' )

[@fredmdbud]

variable geometry warp is still warp - though most likely just more efficient. like high mpg internal combustion engines - you get farther using less fuel, but you're still spitting out the same by-products

[@RandomYT05_01]

What few people seem to understand about warp damaging subspace is that it only causes damage on routes that are repeatedly traveled upon. Sort of like wearing down the path if you would like to call it that. In the episode, it was exactly that. In the rest of the galaxy though, it wouldn't be an issue, primarily because of the vastness of space and the more travel routes available because of it.

[@marshallhuffer4713]

According to the unpublished Voyager Season 1 edition of the Star Trek: Voyager Technical Manual by Rick Sternbach and Mike Okuda, it was suggested that because of the variable geometry pylons, warp fields may no longer have a negative impact on habitable worlds as established in the TNG episode "Force of Nature" as it was shown that repeated high warp factors could damage subspace, and too much would irreparably damage it by forming a subspace riff and making warp travel nearby it impossible.

[@donkdat]

Was just gonna comment about this. Yea it was stated that it drastically reduces the negative effects on subspace

[@fredmdbud]

suggested. but like a lot of things, the negative subspace effects of warp is an inconvenient fact that became glossed over and forgotten, or they now use warp as a measure of speed, regardless of what alternative propulsion technology they use

[@stackthatartpaper]

I can only strive to be as nerdy as this. You’re awesome

[@chrisschembari2486]

As also mentioned in Force Of Nature, the alien scientist who set off the explosion that created a new subspace rift used a warp explosion that Data said was equivalent to ONE MILLION TIMES the normal output of a warp reactor. That's apparently what it took to create that rift, so the scientist in question was not some thoughtful researcher who was right about her concerns. She was an absolutely insane eco-terrorist. This episode was obviously meant to be an allegory to environmental damage from our use of petroleum fuels, but instead it really came across to me as a cautionary tale of not letting certain people earn a degree as a scientist without proving that they meet certain sanity and ethics standards, or have access to dangerous technologies.

[@bipolarminddroppings]

Yup. The TNG writers really wrote the DS9 and Voyager teams into a hole and they had no choice but to ignore it mostly.

[@jacara1981]

My favorite tidbits are: It was the first starship equipped with a new type of Industrial replicators and allowed for the replication of almost all parts and things needed, as well as the processing of raw ore. Also bays..it has a ton of cargo bays and empty spaces that can be repurposed. Hydroponics was a cargo bay originally on Voyager. They have a Shuttle repair/building bay. This is seen when they are building the Delta Flyer, it has a bay door in the floor (or the ceiling, I don't remember which) to allow shuttles in and out of the main Shuttle bay. There is one of the new replicators in there as well. Its how Voyager always had more shuttles, they basically just built them and could feed raw ore to the replicators and get parts out.

[@OllamhDrab]

(Also why I got a headcanon for why they never used the 'Aeroshuttle,' they had to cannibalize something real important from that early on in their ordeal. )

[@jacara1981]

@OllamhDrab in a script in early season one they were going to mention that there's no areoshuttle there, it's just a cover plate as they left spacedock before it was installed. It was cut for pacing. But the original idea was for a much more flushed out ore processing and construction area being built in the void space, however due to budget they scrapped the idea because they couldn't afford the set.

[@kaitlyn__L]

I always figured such industrial replicators had been fairly common in large deep space exploration vessels, but maybe was new for “closer to home” smaller ships like the Interepid. And of course now the Vehicle Replicator is canon even in the Defiant-size Protostar class!

[@jacara1981]

@kitfaaace yeah the intrepid class was the first with the ability to process raw ore all in one replicator. The intrepid class was designed to be able to operate at the edge of federation space for years at a time without needing to return to the core of federation space. Its also equipped with a secondary warp 5 core (you can see it on the schematics both in show and in the manual) so if they lose the main warp core they can install the warp 5 core and limp home.

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@jacara1981 from the TNG and DS9 Tech Manuals I was under the impression that was standard for all Industrial Replicators, either funnelling the rest of the ore into the matter tanks or rematerialising them side by side with the refined metal or even the finished product. The industrial replicators were specifically called out as having a bunch of extra tanks for metals and minerals. whereas food replicators only had carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen and silicon tanks. But I’ve not read the unreleased Voyager Tech Manual, the only download I found was corrupted. So if it’s mentioned in there, fair enough. (Though I did read the internal series bibles I could find.) I’ve seen the extra warp core in the MSD, though some of the staff (both design and writers) in later production years suggested it was absent or only partially-installed in specifically Voyager just as with the Aeroshuttle. That’s kinda neither here nor there, unless the rubber ducky in the D’s main shuttlebay is also canon ;)

[@mb2000]

But why did Voyager have tricobalt devices!? “The Voyager Conspiracy” called out that they’re a strange weapon for Voyager to have and they can damage subspace… so unusual and illegal!? Was Janeway planning on nuking some Maquis planets after her mission to the Badlands!? Voyager’s moving warp nacelles preventing subspace damage: that’s how it’s explained behind the scenes. However, the TNG episode “Force of Nature” actually mentions a USS Intrepid as the ship Geordi is having his warp efficiency competition with. As this episode takes place in 2370, only one year before Voyager’s 2371 launch, it’s highly likely that this Intrepid is the Intrepid-class prototype. Therefore, the Intrepid and its class were already entering service before the damage warp does to subspace was discovered and the implementation of the Warp 5 speed limit!

[@MalikBarrow16]

"Hm, maybe I should do a video on the warp scale" Do it (palpatine)

[@s0aps768]

A video on warp speed would be great!

[@rodneyjackson7147]

oak ridge played a huge role in the manhatten project if you didnt already know.. leslie groves picked it for the uranium enrichment facility and a pilot plutonium plant

[@Nitero_]

Very impressed, I thought you just had pylon geometry but then ya brought out warp field theroy / exotic particles, oh man I am full. Great content as always!

[@xephorce]

nice one. i love anything Voyager.

[@TheBEARofHIGHWAY1]

As a SciFi nerd in the 1990's I remember when Voyager debuted. I wanted that ship so much in my collection so I could see ever aspect of it. Personally I see it as a hardened war ship and more realistic vessel for Star Fleet as a Galaxy class ship was so ridiculously big it almost made no sense. Where as Voyager I could totally see as a vessel for all things including war. Put some Defiant pulse phaser on her and wow. Boom watch out enemies. I personally dislike the show but loved the ship.

[@BTScriviner]

Agreed. The Enterprise-D's size, plus families, was ridiculous.

[@bpdmf2798]

I always thought Minuet was semi sentient because of the Binar's programming and not so much the Enterprise computer. They show her back to bland after the Binar's leave, and she's even less sentient seeming when they are passed out and she is giving Riker and Picard info on what the Binar's were doing. That made me kinda think she was being controlled by a Binar when they were still awake.

[@eliotanders3488]

That's correct. The Binars filled to Enterprise's computer storage space with all of the data from their homeworld and used that software to create Minuet. The Enterprise was a giant external storage backup for the Binars until the solar flare E.M. pulse hit their planet and dissipated. Once the crisis was over, they downloaded the files back to the Binar's systems, which eliminated the Minuet program from the Enterprise computer database.

[@memyselfishness]

I personally subscribe to the theory that the Binar's adjustments to the Enterprise were what allowed Moriarty to become a sentient hologram, as well as several other instances of seeming sentience with the Enterprise D

[@caedrewan]

congrats on the sponsor - the connection between the Doctor and the bio-something something packs (sorry) is a really cool explanation for his abilities

[@stackthatartpaper]

Dude. I’m a mechanic and your vid randomly popped up in my feed. I fucking love this video Subscribed

[@GaryStango]

We need a video on universe compression between series. In both Picard and SNW, it seems like any crappy shuttle/ship can get across the quadrent in 1.5 days. Everything is super close to everything time wise. Distance matters so much less in recent series when "we are distanced from humanity while we explore" was always generally a present backdrop previously.

[@ronstallcup]

Intrepid class: I always thought the "saucer section" looked like a toilet lid.

[@ShikiKiryu]

Yes, do a video on the warp scale, could be interesting.

[@Aragorn7884]

warp speed analyzed? *YES PLEASE*

[@darrensmith6999]

Also the variable geometry warp nacelle was designed to lessen the harmful effect of warp travel on space and subspace.

[@saxondark]

Another great video Tyler as always the Intrepid class is an interesting ship prob not the prettiest ship in the fleet but interesting

[@OrangeRiver]

Thanks Saxon!

[@cricard0815]

How about describing the Voyager vessel from the last episode ... with all the shield and weapons upgrades ... that was the best version of the Intrepid line

[@MatthewCaunsfield]

Great breakdown of a great ship. The show was also good at times...

[@Groktargash]

I've sometimes amused myself imagining that for some reason Q would owe me one or a few wishes and I was hesitating between asking for Voyager or the Defiant. But choosing the last episode's version of Voyager once upgraded with future Janeway's shuttle technology would be much better, larger and more comfortable than the Defiant, even if it doesn't have the cloaking technology.

[@maltoNitho]

12:41 Is it just me or does that shape remind you of the ships in The Orville? Makes me think someone did their homework.

[@shaggycan]

The nacelles are field emitters. Just like a magnet is a field emitter. When you change the orientation of the emitters you are changing the flux (and other things) between them.

[@danield9021]

Oh snap Oak Harbor is my home town.

[@ElectricIguana]

That's a very specific sponsor. Are you located near that Galaxy's Edge event?

[@OrangeRiver]

Nope, but one of my Discord mods is haha

[@DouglasSpende-xm5kf]

Another great video you know your Star Trek stuff!

[@SweetSweetCandyBoyz]

It was my understanding that the variable warp nacelles were a 1st attempt direct solution to the revelation that “brute forcing” warp travel, as had been done for centuries, was unsustainable after it was discovered that sustained warp travel was damaging subspace.

[@Mattit123]

Please do a video on the warp scale

[@grzegorzwardzinski3850]

I'm pretty sure that Fujitsu's Fugaku supercomputer takes the 1st spot on the list.

[@uliseschialva]

Awesome review as always! just a couple of notes: The intrepid class doesnt have quantum torpedoes, nor the launchers required for them, and what you call torpedoes tubes are the actual launcher mechanism for photon torpedoes.

[@WeyounLP]

I thought the pylons moving was to reduce warp emissions and get around the warp 5 limit set in that one tng episode

[@WeyounLP]

@@subraxas If you check memory alpha for that episode, in the continuity section it mentions that this theory was put fourth by rick sternbach and okuda in an unpublished book. Of course no hard evidence, but I'd hardly call it beta canon.

[@mb2000]

That’s how it’s explained behind the scenes. However, the TNG episode “Force of Nature” actually mentions a USS Intrepid as the ship Geordi is having his warp efficiency competition with. As this episode takes place in 2370, only one year before Voyager’s 2371 launch, it’s highly likely that this Intrepid is the Intrepid-class prototype. Therefore, the Intrepid and its class were already entering service before the damage warp does to subspace was discovered and the implementation of the Warp 5 speed limit!

[@WeyounLP]

@@mb2000 thats actually some deep lore to be honest. I like it!

[@jeffhyche9839]

Looks like a garden shovel

[@Veritas1980-Chill]

it was an interesting episode. good work.

[@balrighty3523]

I think Voyager would have been better off with its “variable geometry nacelles” sticking with the open panels of the earlier concept sketches rather than the moving nacelle pylons we ended up with. Because while there’s an in-universe explanation for why the nacelles need to be raised for warp speed (to give them clear line of sight with each other, to be safer for the subspace environment even at speeds above warp 5, etc.), there is no satisfactory explanation for why they have to be lowered at sublight speeds. Seriously, why does the ship need the nacelles down at all? Why not leave them up all the time (at warp, at impulse, in orbit, docked at a station, landed on a planet, etc.)? The opening panels leaned into better justifications for all of that. Why do they need to open at warp? Because that’s how these new nacelles go faster, or more efficiently, or more environmentally friendly, or some combination of those factors. So why not just leave them open all the time? Because that’s delicate and vulnerable machinery in those nacelles that shouldn’t be exposed to harmful environments or enemy weapons fire when it isn’t necessary. Alas for what could have been.

[@ehsnils]

To me the rule of the universe that there had to be clear space between the nacelles was news to me, but I haven't gone into all rules of the Star Trek universe. That said - even the cartoons by Chuck Jones had certain rules to follow for the story to work. Wiley E. Coyote should always fail to catch the Roadrunner and his contraptions should always be flawed in some way.

[@Residentevilfan1989]

Do The Orville next.

[@safebox36]

Re: the warp scale I still contest that there are two systems that have been used, and that the second one was created in response to an absolute limit while the first was created to an increment of ship capability over time Think of it this way; the speed of light is either 299,792,458 m/s or 1 or nearly 0, depending on the units used. In the first, it's in Metric. In the second, it's in Planck units. In the third, Schrodinger units. But in all three cases, that observed value is the same but the number given changes because of the relative values of the units' definitions. Similarly, I posit that the new warp system is a form of what is called "natural units". Where the values of the constants are reduced to 1 where possible, and the rest of the units expanded from there. The old system would be more akin to Metric, where the constants are their relatively high number starting off and derived values build up from there.

[@AlexandarHullRichter]

Enterprise is a word with a definition, not just a name we like to hear.

[@rmeddy]

I thought the variable pylon was because of the warp field breakdown and the ecoterrorism episode?

[@OrangeRiver]

That was part of it, to be sure.

[@daduzadude1547]

@@OrangeRiverthe Defiant nacelles are tight against the body though. Would that not negate the explanation?

[@OrangeRiver]

@Da Duza Dude The connection with "Force of Nature" was tbh not really stated on screen, more of a theory that the writers came up with. But as with a lot of things, making that a priority kinda fell by the wayside.

[@daduzadude1547]

@@OrangeRiver understood. Thanks for answering 😊

[@mb2000]

I think that’s only how it’s explained behind the scenes. However, the TNG episode you refer to, “Force of Nature” actually mentions a USS Intrepid as the ship Geordi is having his warp efficiency competition with. As this episode takes place in 2370, only one year before Voyager’s 2371 launch, it’s highly likely that this Intrepid is the Intrepid-class prototype. Therefore, the Intrepid and its class were already entering service before the damage warp does to subspace was discovered and the implementation of the Warp 5 speed limit!

[@BlackHoleForge]

11:27 You might be missing something. Do you remember when voyager's crew was discussing subspace tears and its relationship to the warp drive? I believe they had to change the position of the nacelles in order to change the amount of damage they were causing in subspace, or risk never been able to use warp drive through that particular galaxy.

[@OrangeRiver]

That explanation has never to my knowledge been confirmed in canon. It's a popular fan theory, and it might have deserved a mention in the video but it's not mentioned in any episodes (again, to my knowledge)

[@BlackHoleForge]

@@OrangeRiver I'll do some research and if I find the episode. I'll send another comment.

[@BlackHoleForge]

@@OrangeRiver I believe the episode was called "force of nature", but it was TNG.

[@OrangeRiver]

@BlackHoleForge Yeah that's definitely the episode that introduced the concept of the subspace rift, but on screen it's never been connected to variable geometry pylons.

[@joshwilliams8863]

The whole geometry thing is fascinating! Although unfortunately it gets kind of broken with ships like the Defiant class, with closely-spaced and definitely-not-clear nacelles.

[@whuffer5103]

Runabouts

[@willadeefriesland5107]

Just keep a certain Talaxian's cheese experiments away from the gel packs...

[@Iceflkn]

Solar wind in space isn't a negligible effect. For example, Voyagers 1 and 2 had been knocked off course quite a bit due to solar wind pushing it.

[@MonCappy]

I always thought the bio neural gel packs were a dumb idea. Silicon circuitry runs at light speed for the most part, while any bio neural circuitry would process information and thousands of magnitudes slower speeds due to chemical processes being behind their operation. Overall, though I think Yoyager is a fine ship,

[@kaitlyn__L]

The age old parallelism versus serial throughput debate.

[@kennyhudson9201]

I think the gel packs might be better at certain types of computations just like quantum computing is better at some problems than standard computers.

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@kennyhudson9201 right. Already certain DNA(RNA?)-based mechanisms (not encoding the data in the DNA but just structural) are faster at certain very high possibility calculations. As are slime moulds. I could see the gel packs searching a possibility space massively parallel, then handing off those few candidates to the isolinear circuitry for high precision final calculations. Like a fancy hardware assisted tree-pruning algorithm for massive datasets.

[@theharbingerofconflation]

You seem to have kind of forgotten that in Star Trek, variable Warp geometry is adirect result of starfleet finding out that Warp actuvely harms subspace in TNG. They redesigned warp geometry specifically because of the harm they did, this better warp geometry is perfected in the Sovereign class

[@mb2000]

Not really,’the TNG episode you refer to, “Force of Nature”,’actually mentions a USS Intrepid as the ship Geordi is having his warp efficiency competition with. As this episode takes place in 2370, only one year before Voyager’s 2371 launch, it’s highly likely that this Intrepid is the Intrepid-class prototype. Therefore, the Intrepid and its class were already entering service before the damage warp does to subspace was discovered and the implementation of the Warp 5 speed limit!

[@imthestein]

Saying the shape of the ship doesn’t matter in space is fine until you consider how the geometry of the ship influences the warp bubble. That’s why nacelles are supposed to have at least 50% visibility with each other and other rules they put in place for the show

[@patrickhogan9256]

At 0:05 there is 7 ships there: 3 in the background 1 infront of voyager Voyager And the ship hidden within the disk of voyager

[@kuboaa101]

Was Minuet sentient?

[@williamrenz3141]

The nacelles of later ships broke the rule of having space between them. The Defiant in DS9 is one example, but I've seen others.

[@wompastompa3692]

I don't know why, but I really like Voyager's design but hate the Enterprise E's with a passion.

[@redbassist5590]

If I had the choice, I'd serve on an Intrepid class.

[@DouglasSpende-xm5kf]

Sweet! Only if that could happen.

[@robbicu]

I hope the research for this episode decreased your disdain for Voyager.

[@GiRR007]

👍

[@SnarkNSass]

🚀🖖🏻

[@ideasaboutthings8857]

why are the photon torpedos.. which are bombs with a pound of antimatter (or mor idk) make such small explosions. wouldnt a pound of the stuff like take out an entire country?

[@MichaelKnaepen]

A warp scale video? Make it so. Please.

[@realbigtrees]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4m1qXiMhd-ErNE you did not link the deflector shield video in the description but i found it.

[@OrangeRiver]

Fixed!

[@dionysus2006]

I read somewhere that warp 9.975 is 1000x faster than the Enterprise 1701-D. Is this true ?

[@morbidmanmusic]

TOS/Enterprise/Brave new worlds. The ones that matter and don't stray.

[@1joshjosh1]

My brain only has 1.5 petabytes. 😔

[@misterlau5246]

But we never got another ship with variable pylons The design was sleek, the nacelles too small, since the rest of the classes had big ones. The human brain... It's not possible to compare that amount of binary stuff in solid state memory. We don't even store images of what we enjoyed at the country with our senses, we remember by reconstructing the scene,. We don't have the capacity to store all the numbers a PB of memory can, and it can recall them perfectly, faster than us. We make relationships with the "code" to generate the remembrance, if it was strong in emotional context, like now I remembered some happy moments of my life, involuntarily, and the first one was the birth of my son, but then the memory of my mom's death flashed in my mind and I preferred to stop remembering 😔

[@G_D_Nienhuis]

310th Like Nice

[@ScottJPowers]

People seem to think the human brain must be so powerful compared to computers, but despite these billions of neurons/connections, we can easily be bested by a pocket calculator at even basic math and we are not very good at storing large amounts of precise/highly detailed information, particularly for long periods of time. Also, biological brains are not electrical. The axons transmit information using sodium ions through the exchange of electrons back and forth across the membrane of the axon, which then triggers the release of neuro transmitters at the synapse that bind to receptors of the dendrites of the next neuron.

[@dashfatbastard]

A DEFINITE thumbs up on the warp scale (s)!

[@ozelhassan8576]

I thought the warp nacelles moved up so it didn’t damage Subspace.

[@dimensionalpotential]

warp scale!!!!!

[@TheRevengeSociety]

Voyager is the second best series out of the franchise. Don't @me

[@Iceflkn]

Has anyone ever tried to use AI to create AI? AI could create itself better than we can right now.

[@FirstNameLastName-okayyoutube]

Intrepid is a interdictor! wake up! Starfleet has 5 hands and barely knows what the other ones are doing!

[@viridian8258]

Did you had a reason to not include Vic Fontaine in the list of sentient Holograms?

[@justinmorgan2126]

A video on the warp scale...? Sure join the club, all the star trek channels have at least one..

[@jeffreyatlee8785]

Personally I always felt that Starfleet was anti AI. What say you?

[@OrangeRiver]

I think there's a lot of hidden AI that just kind of runs in the background like the ship's computer and such, but sentient AI is definitely another story.

[@Scripture-Man]

I'm failing to understand this video. What is the "hidden genius" here?

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

And wrong on the crew compliment - it's meant to be about 200. 150 was only had Voyager had after many were killed off.

[@scottwilliams3595]

Janeway was going slow, it should have only taken them about 3 years to get home and that's with stopping every so often.

[@samtro]

Any space ship with large moving parts fails to meet my criteria of genius. That goes for voyagers totally unnecessary tilting nacelles to Discovery's idiotic rotating rings

[@EdgyNumber1]

So, ALEX KURTZMAN... wtf happened?

[@MrWarfd001]

Mate voyager should have doubled their weapon count primary and secondary shields Thicker hull armour and additional internal armour around primary and secondary systems additional 2x antimatter energy generators Tried to make / obtain a clocking device Link in shuttle transport's into main ships senors as a back up when the main ship transports fail Installed hole emitters on each deck at medical stations Upgrade hand held weapons .... 🤔

[@madmonkee6757]

Tyler, why are you so adorable? It's not even OK.

[@RememberTheChase]

Agreed 👍

[@mickeydamaz9238]

Yes, you have to make a warp speed scale. That would be great

[@beepboop204]

the speed scale must go all the way

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@mekkler yep. I noticed some travel times quoted as warp 3 in Enterprise should really be warp 7 or warp 8…

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@mekkler that’s the scale Enterprise used too, and matched their quoted times to and from Pluto… but then they soonafter could travel a couple light years in a couple days at warp 3? Which “should” be 27x the speed of light, as in a light year still taking almost two weeks. So then I took the cube root of 500 (going a bit over a light year in a day, 500c is a decent estimate over 365c) and that “should” be warp 8 (well, 7.9). But apparently it’s warp 3… it’s like they often took the TNG distances and times but just tacked on a lower warp factor instead of picking smaller distances or just writing longer time skips. But they got the distance and time scales basically right in other episodes such as the warp 2 test getting from Earth to the gas giants in a few hours. So they clearly could do it when they cared. Of course, no Trek series has ever consistently adhered to the cube formula (or TNG’s revision), not even TOS. So it’s not exactly new. There’s other supposed justifications attempting to square that circle, which I don’t like as much, such as “density” of space or nearby gravitational wells slowing things down (or speeding them up)… but then warp factor becomes meaningless as a measurement of speed! While also being needlessly complicated if it’s just a measure of engine exertion (so why not just give a percentage like they do with impulse?)

[@chrissonofpear1384]

@@kaitlyn__L And for instance, Warp 9.975 is somewhere between 5127 and 5552 x the speed of light, supposedly (or up to 15.2 light years a day) But other times, is hinted, to be a lot faster. And warp 8 should be 1024 times lightspeed (2.8 light years a day) but is also, I think, variable.

[@kaitlyn__L]

@@chrissonofpear1384 I’m guessing that’s TNG scale warp 8. Interesting that it’s exactly twice as fast as the TOS scale one (512c)

[@gownerjones]

The Voyager has always been the ship I found the most physically attractive out of all of them.

[@kennyhudson9201]

Got a kink for starships do ya? No shame here.

[@gownerjones]

@@kennyhudson9201 Aye, ever since I was a wee lad.

[@philkensebben]

Such an ugly deflector dish

[@RighteousPursuitMinistries]

Voyagers dish looks best. I think the worst dish is the yellow Sovereign class deflector.

[@Chad_Billington]

Janeway, Tuvok, Seven and The Doctor are some of my favorite Trek characters of all time.

[@stevenscott2136]

I always thought it was weird that the woman who got her job simply because she was doing Berman, turned out to be one of the best characters on the show.

[@Chad_Billington]

@@stevenscott2136 she was screwing Brannon Braga not Berman

[@Zyklon_B_still_and_know_God]

She's a pretty good actress. For someone that was hired for her looks and who she was dating, that's impressive. The first fleshed out liberated borg character was bound to be interesting, but she really sold it well.

[@bumbleguppy]

Just want to give kudos for the use of contrasting colored lighting when doing your personal appearance on screen. I was immediately taken back to the late 60's original series, I never realized how effective and fun it was and even though it isn't expensive, it packs a lot of fun visual impact and contrast. Truly inspired, I expect a Romulan commander to come in from the side area at any moment.

[@1TakoyakiStore]

Sounds like we need a part 2 👀

[@ManicPandaz]

One thing I thought you’d mention is that voyager is also capable of landing on a planet. So having a straight wing design could help it in atmospheric maneuvering. It’s “wings” probably don’t have do be physically aerodynamic even, I’m sure force field geometry could easily provide lift.

[@Eyesorecrymore]

Yeah I was wondering the same thing. Granted I can only think of one episode where they actually land.

[@zerrodefex]

@@Eyesorecrymore they did it at least three times in the series. Yeah I was surprised he didn't mention it as it's the only ship (ignoring the reboot films) that is shown to be capable of landing and taking off from a planetary surface and cruising through the atmosphere when previous ships always risked burning up in planetary atmospheres.

[@vomeronasal]

I used to live in Oak Harbor! Outstanding place. We still had TELEGRAPH poles and wires on our street...in 1976!

[@OllamhDrab]

Ah, the class of ship I'd generally most want to serve on. You got full-service starship and enough comforts and specs to be pretty good for almost anything, and about the right size ship community on there, ...like you *can* know everyone aboard but aren't obligated to if you don't get along with someone. :) Also you can land the thing if that ever makes sense for an expedition. :) (Also it seems more Intrepid content would go over big, ...Voyager may not have been everyone else's favorite show, but it seems many of us love that class of *ship.* :) )

[@beezelbuzzel]

Awesome. Voyager isn't one of my favorite Trek shows, but this was super informative. I've got a real appreciation of all the effort the art and science departments put in on the show. Also, I'm digging the real science comparison videos you do. It adds a lot!

[@OrangeRiver]

Thanks a ton!

[@beepboop204]

Year of Hell was ok. but TNG had Tapestry, DS9 had In The Pale Moonlight. maybe its because i was older when i watched Voyageur, but it didnt have the magic of TNG or DS9.

[@beezelbuzzel]

@@beepboop204 I never got behind Voyager. It was too campy for my taste. It did address some real issues and has a loyal fanbase though. Not to mention The Doctor is legit awesome. I appreciate it, but overall, it's just not my thing.

[@KickassMcfly]

Great video like always! thank you

[@CoreyKearney]

The gel packs are an analogy to how we are trying to do AI now. Neural networks in software.

[@angstony459]

The hidden genius of this channel! Keep up the high quality of content and analysis! (I wish you had 1M subs)

[@OrangeRiver]

Thanks angstony! I DO TOO

[@L33Reacts]

@@OrangeRiversame Tyler… same… 😂

[@beepboop204]

@@OrangeRiver is your favorite color Orange and your favorite body of water the River?

[@OrangeRiver]

@Beep Boop Honestly I find myself more drawn to purple, and I prefer the ocean 😂

[@kennyhudson9201]

Voyager being my favorite Trek, I'm always happy to see it get a focused breakdown.

[@biggles1852]

Thank you for not bringing up “Blue Alert”! I love the Intrepid class but landing a warp reactor on a planet has got to be the worst idea ever idea’d

[@Soul-cry1]

Don't forget about the areo shuttle, such an awesome design and concept, sad they decided not to use it..

[@malicant123]

The endless shuttle bay also helped.

[@OllamhDrab]

I like garage space. :)

[@Numba003]

I would definitely be down for a warp scale video! Also, my wife and I are currently watching Voyager, so this video was excellently timed lol. Thank you for all you do! God be with you out there everybody. ✝️ :)

[@JMD501]

The Intrepid class has always been my favorite. It's a more reasonable size.

[@eddiecavlovich1302]

my thoughts exactly awesome ship

[@Voltaic_Fire]

I do appreciate the Intrepid's sleekness and agility, it does what it is designed for extremely well, but I just adore the sheer presence and gravitas of ginormous ships like the Galaxy class. The Galaxy may not be a fast agile ship required in war but they made for spectacularly opulent city ships, sturdy C&C ships, and flying bastions that projected all the best parts of the Federation out into deep space on long term missions. I would have rigged the Galaxy class far more for combat, more phaser strips, gimbal pulse phasers, a bunch of fighters/a docked support fleet, more torpedo launchers, and completely covered it in ablative armour. I would retain all the interior space and luxury for the sake of the crew and for the purposes of diplomatic missions, and use the acres of hangar space plus the many decks full of empty unused space for all those other upgrades as well as a secondary warp core to make my vision feasible.