The Highriders

Lancer, Series 1, Episode 1
(NB: This first episode was an edited version of the pilot movie, The Homecoming. Although nice to see it in color, the black and white pilot is better.)

[@prokofievchambers8603]

I loved this series as a kid. I was devastated when James suffered such a horrendous accident. He was so so beautiful and full of promise.

[@mariesimbeck9875]

I watched Lancer every week. I was in high school and thought Scott and Johnny were so cute. I was in love with Johnny. Posters in my bedroom. I bawled when Maddie left him in Blind Man's Buff. When the last episode aired I just cried and cried. So glad I stumbled across these episodes. I'm 70 years old and still have a crush on Johnny. Lol

[@mikelanzano3806]

It's amazing what a wonderful show Lancer is, I wish there were 100 more episodes that I haven't seen ❤️💪👍

[@margaretp1465]

They aren't on film, but there are plenty more episodes on the FanFiction sites written by other fans.

[@scarletmacaw]

Johnny Madrid aka James Stacy aka Maurice Elias was a convicted pedophile.

[@leonsantana3646]

That was the best acting I've ever seen in my whole life

[@bishlap]

yes, I often confuse it w/ the London version of "The taming of the shrew."

[@Bonzulac]

@@bishlap It was a reference to a line from Once upon a Time in Hollywood, dipshit

[@ishkabibbledib2729]

@@bishlap Lol

[@sharrigarvin3348]

@@bishlap Now now!!! Lol 😆!!!!

[@porflepopnecker4376]

I liked it when he was sexy, evil Hamlet.

[@alatherley]

One of my favorite tv westerns along with Cimmaron Strip. Johnny Madrid and Marshal Jim Crown the coolest cowboys on tv,

[@seerstone8982]

The year before Lancer primered, James Stacy guest starred on Cinnamon Strip.

[@nighteagle71]

The best western ever! Lancer lives on!!!

[@wiseguymaybe]

Really? Seriously? The best? I've seen that so many times in other comment sections. The Rifleman, the best western ever. Gunsmoke, the best western ever. High Chaparral, the best western ever. Outlaw, the best western ever. Bonanza, the best western ever. Have Gun Will Travel, the best western ever. Dusty's Trail, the best western ever. Welll...I never heard that about the Dusty's Trail, just kidding. What makes Lancer the best western ever?

[@nighteagle71]

@@wiseguymaybe just the love of its fans like any other thing.

[@sylviapatterson1670]

@@wiseguymaybe You left out Laramie.

[@wiseguymaybe]

@@nighteagle71 I'm sorry,aquiladellanotte71, when I read my comment now it sounds mean. I hear that a lot, I guess and I must have been tired. You are right of course, just like any other fan.

[@wiseguymaybe]

@@sylviapatterson1670😆 Oops. I did. Good reply Sylvia, to a smart aleck like me. 👍

[@lindacorreia428]

So true Scott and Johnny best eye candy, no one can replace them !

[@wiseguymaybe]

Well, Linda, I see why you watch Lancer. Amazing how many good looking people road the west back in the 60's. At least west Hollywood.

[@scarletmacaw]

That’s what James Stacy said about underage children.

[@Sandysha11]

I never tire of watching this episode. Each time I notice something different. As others have commented, the B/W version has so much more to it. The parts cut out for the color 1st episode were pivotal to the character development of Johnny's character both as Madrid and Lancer.

[@princesslashay8985]

Lancer tv western

[@AzizalSaqr]

My sister and I were big Lancer fans as kids, she liked Scott Johnny was my favorite. I remember hunting everywhere for a belt like his conch belt, I finally found a thin leather version,?I used to have a scrapbook with all the tv guide clippings and every article on James Stacy I could find, even those after his accident, I re.e.ber trying to write him in prison, only to have my letter returned because I didn't use his birth na.me on the envelope.

[@AzizalSaqr]

I'D FORGOTTEN HOW OFTEN Murdock called Johnny John.

[@lancerlovers5143]

@@AzizalSaqr There is still a Lancer fan base. It isn't large but is dedicated to the show, actors, and the creator Sam Peeples. You can find Lancer fan fiction on the internet as well as Lancer FB sites.

[@perlitamalmis9266]

Agree! The competition in this episode turn around into a wonderful brotherly & family dynamic, looking out for each other. Then & now mentality has change so much we became a look out for #1 now, we forgot family & sense of community. I like it then than now. I think this is the best of western TV, all around, writers, dialogs, and actors.Too bad they canceled it after 2 seasons.

[@debrarick9617]

I love this episode as Johnny Madrid becomes Johnny Lancer and steals the show !!

[@angelagregorio6327]

I read somewhere that James Stacy split 19 pairs of leather pants hoping on and off his horse. Finally had him wear corduroy pants. Cheaper and easier to maintain! Lol

[@ruthhawkins7402]

I really love this show. I have tried ordering the DVD's from Amazon to no avail. I try to get it on Demand, but its basically the Pilots where there's only about five episodes.

[@angelagregorio6327]

Maybe ebay?

[@sharonkrikorian5609]

@@angelagregorio6327 I haven't found it on eBay. Be careful when buying DVDs of hard to find shows...I ordered the Desperado TV movies and it turned out they were just downloaded from cable TV and burned onto generic CD. They were horrible quality for the price.

[@donnakowalew157]

@@ruthhawkins7402 My daughter got me bootleg copies. All the episodes. I don't know where or how, but I sure was happy. I think she said the came from Japan. She said they were a little pricey, but she knows how obsessed I am with Lancer. The quality is the same as KZbin.

[@paulstark6818]

A ripper of a episode the whole series was classic brilliance have watched some of these two to three thank you for bringing this to us did not receive this on TV when it first came out ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@robynmackwood-smith8349]

Fell in love with Johnny 50 years ago and even more in love today.

[@drh-ov7eq]

I love Johnny Lancer..rip legend

[@donnakowalew157]

Like Chad said, "she thinks you're the prettiest thing in pants".

[@scarletmacaw]

Said James Stacy to the young child.

[@annelonsdale2968]

Coolest cowboy ever james stacy rip james stacy

[@lindacorreia428]

Coolest Western, wish they hadn't stopped after two seasons, I saw it for the first time on Cables, HI ! I was a teenager when this show aired remember Bonanza back then, but not this one, glad i discovered it!"

[@lindacorreia428]

Agree !

[@misterfrias]

Absolutely fantastic. Thanks for posting this.

[@robertacolarette1594]

I always watched Lancer in High School. The Lancer boys Johnny and Scott, were the best looking guys on TV at the time. My girlfriends and I would compare notes on what we thought of the episodes the next day in school. The best theme song for a Western ever except the other western soundtrack Jerome Moross wrote for The Big Country in 1958. What happened to James Stacey just a few years after the demise of this series was absolutely tragic.

[@JakeysMom07]

I was so infatuated with Johnny!

[@scarletmacaw]

@@JakeysMom07and he was infatuated with 11 year-old girls.

[@lindacorreia428]

Best tv western, love Johnny Madrid, James Stacey coolest cowboy, gun fighter ever ! To bad only two seasons, they just don't make good tv like this anymore !

[@sheldonbodryn1003]

Such a shame he was crippled by a drunk driver. Wrecked his life.

[@debrarick9617]

Sad but he still acted after the wreck PTSD GOT HIM !!!

[@ruthhawkins7402]

I get them on 242 comcast every morning at 5am.

[@arsenymun2028]

Rick Dalton is pretty good in it

[@margaretp1465]

Agree, but Joe Don Baker was very good as Day Pardee in the original too.

[@mariemiller1547]

If anyone cares...Lancer is on H&I channel on Sundays 1:00 CT....depends where you are living....glad to see it back on TV....big Lancer fan

[@tjmpls4905]

I didn't watch Lancer when it originally aired, but OUATIH piqued my curiosity about the show and brought me here. Was surprised to see how different the two story lines were based on the scenes shown in Once Upon A Time.... One curious thing in the latter is when Johnny Madrid walks into the tavern there is a shadow on the floor of a ceiling fan turning. It appears to be very deliberate--was Tarantino just having fun with us?

[@mikekemp9877]

@@margaretp1465 he pops up again later on as lancers long lost hillbilly cousin.

[@margaretp1465]

@@mikekemp9877 No, John Beck played Chad. Joe Don Baker was in 'Shadow of a Deadman' though as another gunfighter.

[@gailbrooks4883]

James Stacy was gorgeous in his prime. I saw his Gunsmoke episodes several times.

[@seerstone8982]

He appeared in four episodes

[@scarletmacaw]

James Stacy thought 11 year-old girls were “gorgeous” too.

[@nevanixon3143]

​@@scarletmacawyou must have a hatred for James Stacy or you like to "stir the pot"

[@debrarick9617]

Never seen Once Upon a Time In Hollywood so I don't know how Tarantino's got Lancer & Sharon Tate in the movie.. .. you have to love how Johnny & Scott come together at the end as brothers !!!!

[@KD_1989]

You’re missing out if you haven’t seen it by now. It’s basically a love story to old Hollywood and the 1960’s

[@veronicaborowski9858]

Never seen the whole episode in colour.. thank you so much. Really had fun watching!!

[@JoeHuman]

"Senor Madrid.. care to join me at muh table where I entertain muh guests?"

[@margaretp1465]

That's a line from OUATIH, not the original Lancer.

[@JoeHuman]

@@margaretp1465 🌟. "You've just won a year's supply of Tanya tanning products. Thanks for listening to KHG! Coming up at the top of the hour.. News, Weather, and "The Green Door" from TV's very own Jake Cahill himself, Bounty Law and Lancer star Rick Dalton. You're listening to KHG in LA. Up next, Jose Feliciano with his rendition of the Mama's & The Papas classic, 'California Dreamin'.."

[@margaretp1465]

@@JoeHuman Oh my gosh, I'm so excited!

[@MiguelLozano]

"Who's Johnny Madrid?"

[@VintageBoxingTM]

@@JoeHuman I'm happy living in 1969! Care to join me señors and señoritas?

[@WHANAUPEACE]

Another program that brings back great childhood memories and dreams of travelling to America.

[@stephensorenson5895]

as a growing boy in NY,i used to love this!

[@heathermallard9197]

I could not agree more...the cut scenes were very important...I prefer the black and white version as well. Wish I could get a coloured version of the homecoming.

[@rugbygirlfromTX]

James Stacey and Wayne Maunder were quite the pair! Shame the show didn't go beyond 2 seasons.

[@natzlovesmusic01]

Wish i could turn back time and bring them all back 💔❣️❤️❤️

[@TheSports50]

One of best theme sound and music were awesome

[@jensmom604]

I loved this show when it was on prime time. Too bad it didn't go beyond two seasons.

[@bethbartlett5692]

True, it most certainly was a worthy weekly for TV. I'm thinking it was that Westerns were losing their draw (or the Bean Counters thought so)

[@paulkatz258]

Thanks for uploading this episode

[@seerstone8982]

James Stacy's mother was of Scots/Irish decent, his father was Lebanese, giving him his distinct exotic looks.

[@TRINZINI]

ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD brought me here

[@margaretp1465]

Welcome. I hope you watch the original version of Lancer and enjoy it. There is still an active fandom, including fan fiction. If nothing else, you have to admit the original Johnny and Scott are a lot better eye candy than the OUATIH ones.

[@ShaneFromHamilton]

I sat through the whole shitty bad quality one last night because of the same reason cause I didn't notice this one lol

[@margaretp1465]

@@ShaneFromHamilton We live in hope that renewed interest will encourage QT or Fox or Disney, whoever owns the rights these days, to bring out remastered DVD, but until then we make do.

[@howardmoore1332]

Me too!

[@lindacorreia428]

@@margaretp1465 Yes so true, they are better eye candy Lol !

[@nancykessler5594]

Nancy Kessler love this when i was 15, yes it should had gone on many years. they don't make westerns any more!

[@shellilogan771]

so awesome! and i havnt watched it yet even! haha but i so loved this series when i was in highschool! could wait to get home! lol

[@beverlyallen7605]

Both are great

[@paulgibbons6170]

Like quite a few people recently I came here because of OUATIH, really had a surprise when I recognised the theme tune from somewhere deep in my childhood though! Good TV episode - I'll seek out more.

[@margaretp1465]

It's a great tune, isn't it? Lancer Fan has uploaded the pilot and most episodes. I've only done the ones she couldn't for some reason. My favourite episodes are all on her site. The quality isn't wonderful on either site of course as they're uploads from fan-made DVD, but who knows, with the renewed interest maybe QT or someone else will bring out digital DVD as they have done with other Westerns. In the meantime if you live in the USA, a few TV stations are apparently airing Lancer again, and wherever you live you can enjoy the fan fiction that me and others have written.

[@anitamann2270]

Just an observation and wondering what others think. In the first episode Murdoch explains what happened to Scott’s mom, then he starts to describe Johnny’s mother but pauses his thought…does anybody think he was inferring that she was pregnant and then they got married? I’ve watched this episode 100 times or more and I’m more convinced of it each time. Any thoughts?

[@margaretp1465]

Most fans interpret Murdoch's words in that way.

[@anitamann2270]

@@margaretp1465 thank u SO much for responding. I’m 65 years old and have seen every single Lancer episode at least 50 times yet the more I watch the more I see. JML was such eye candy, I think I stared more at him than the script or the surroundings😊 when I was younger. Jim Stacy had an acting quality about him that warmed my heart, he’s truly missed.

[@lynnesaginaw8061]

I wish the show had lasted longer; I wanted very much to know more about Scott's background.

[@mariesimbeck9875]

​@@lynnesaginaw8061 I would have like to know more of Johnny's back story.

[@PatrolOfficer161]

The music is very "Big Country"ish ... for good reason! Great score.

[@sharonkrikorian5609]

I was only 8 when Lancer was on TV and with two older brothers I watched whatever they decided to watch. After doing some research, turns out I remember watching Mod Squad which aired same time/same night as Lancer. That's one reason the show was cancelled. I think another reason for low ratings/viewers is how each episode featured prominently just one of the main characters. The best episodes feature all 3, or at least Scott and Johnny equally.

[@margaretp1465]

In NZ Lancer and Mod Squad didn't clash so I watched and enjoyed both. Many years later though Lancer stands the test of time. The acting and moralizing in Mod Squad now seems cringe-worthy. I agree the second series of Lancer in particular suffered from a lack of the brothers together and even on their own. I don't know what the producers were thinking to make the focus of an episode Murdoch, Teresa or Jelly, though there are some excellent cameos in those episodes from Johnny or Scott.

[@sharonkrikorian5609]

@@margaretp1465 yep, NBC really mishandled this series in so many ways. The exterior scenes were far more realistic than Bonanza, for one example. There was so much potential for Lancer to be a long running hit. Two seasons leaves me wanting and wishing for more, especially since Johnny is featured in only a few. The best scenes are with Johnny and Scott together.

[@josephmacisaac73]

Was Wayne Maunder planning on leaving the show if it had been renewed for a third season?

[@margaretp1465]

@@josephmacisaac73 I don't know. I believe there was some discontent. Maybe a hardcore Wayne Maunder fan can answer that question.

[@channelchenes4541]

When I saw Tim Olyphant and Luke Perry cast as Jim Stacy and Wayne Maunder, it was perfection.

[@mikeivoyloff1656]

Truth is - Tim was Raylan Givens all the way.

[@seerstone8982]

Luke had Wayne's voice down to perfection.

[@nevanixon3143]

Great memories

[@grantburnett]

Great video there should be more like it.

[@user-vf5hn9gq4i]

you said it!

[@ricobowen312]

The Pinkerton that saves Johnny Madrid is WKRP in Cincinnati Boss!

[@lancerlovers5143]

James Stacy, in his wheelchair, had a roll in the New WKRP in 1992. He played Lt. Youngblood. It was interesting to see the Gordon Jump and James Stacy reunited after so many years.

[@robcochran6213]

Tarantino is shooting this episode for a segment of his film ONCE UPON A TIME IN,,,,HOLLYWOOD film with Leonardo De Caprio in the Joe Don Baker role

[@calypsopress]

Isnt Leo playing Wayne Maunder"s role .Wayne was Sharon Tate 's neighbor in real life .I believe Leo is playimg her neighbor in the movie ...

[@anitamorrison6708]

@@calypsopress Luke Perry plays Wayne Maunder, Timothy Oliphant plays James Stacy. Should be an interesting movie!

[@gregp103]

@@anitamorrison6708 y*

[@azulazul2991]

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[@azulazul2991]

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[@ganapathiprakhya2063]

Nice episode

[@nielwilliams4687]

Damn fine movie.

[@RockerH2526]

In the horse breaking scene was that Jim Stacy’s brother riding Baranca? I love the cadence / inflection in Stacy’s voice.

[@margaretp1465]

I'm not sure about the horse riding in The Highriders. I believe Louie was the stunt double in Catch a Wild Horse. I agree about Stacy's voice. Wonderful.

[@paulajenkins8005]

@@margaretp1465 I loved the sound of his voice also and those eyes and lips and hair and LOL guess I just loved James Stacy

[@margaretp1465]

@@paulajenkins8005 You and a large number of other ladies. If you haven't already you should join the fans on Facebook. There are several Lancer and James Stacy sites.

[@paulajenkins8005]

@@margaretp1465 where do you have info I would love to join

[@margaretp1465]

@@paulajenkins8005 Most of the Facebook sites are Private so you'll have to apply for membership and answer any questions the moderators consider appropriate. Like many site, they try to weed out trolls. I'll give you links two of the main ones and once you've spent some time on them you can probably branch out and join others. Most have overlapping membership and slightly different focus. See facebook.com/groups/LancerTheBestWestern/ and facebook.com/groups/LancerFanFiction/ and if you live in the UK facebook.com/groups/teamstacyuk

[@barbarawhite2928]

I DID NOT LIKE THE COLOR VERSION OF THE HIGHRIDERS. THEY SHOWED SCOTT'S WAY OF HOW HE WAS CONTACTED FOR HIS WAY HOME, WITH JOHNNY HE WAS STOOD UP INFORMED ABOUT HIS FATHER, & THE NEXT HE IS CATCHING THE STAGE FOR MOYO COYO. THEN CERTAIN KEY PARTS, SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN ERASE OR LEFT OUT ON PURPOSE. THE FIGHT SCENE WITH SCOTT & JOHNNY IS SHOWED WHERE SCOTT GETS HIS PUNCH IN BUT JOHNNY IS NOT GIVING HIS PUNCH BACK TO SCOTT. EVEN WITH JOHNNY GETTING HIS SHARE OF SHOOTING THE BAD GUYS ARE LEFT OUT. IT LACK KEY ELEMENTS TO EXPLAIN THE STORY. IN THE BLACK & WHITE VERSION THE HOMECOMING IT WAS RIGHT ON WITH ACTION, THE STORYLINE, THE PLAN, THE EVERYTHING. BUT IT WAS FUN TO WATCH. I STILL FELL IN LOVE WITH THE LANCER MEN. STILL A LANCER FAN.

[@fromthesidelines]

The unaired pilot lasted about a full hour. WITH commercials (and a station break in the middle, and "a few scenes from next week's episode" at the end), each episode had a running time of about 52 minutes. That meant some scenes HAD to be eliminated before it aired on the network.

[@gregp103]

stop yelling.

[@AzizalSaqr]

ZbI noticed the color cuts Johnny coming into Scott's room after the. Fire stockingfootted to put on his boots, guess I was distracted by the open shirt the first few times I watched and missed that, James wazso cute even as an old man the cuteness remaineI eish I could have met him.

[@scarletmacaw]

@@gregp103his caps lock key was stuck.

[@jamesalley4061]

The great Andrew Duggan

[@tjtampa214]

Fantastic, glad this episode was the first I've seen. 🌟

[@margaretp1465]

If you mean that you've only seen this one episode and like it, you should watch other episodes posted by Lancer Fan. The episodes are a little mixed in quality, but most are pretty good. I've only posted the ones that Lancer Fan couldn't for some reason so that all the episodes were available on KZbin. She's posted the best ones.

[@fromthesidelines]

Originally telecast on September 24, 1968.

[@greenkidd529]

So Tarantino screwed up , because his movie takes place 1969

[@scvandy3129]

@@greenkidd529 And the pilot filmed in Dec. 1967 and Jan. 1968 on location in Carmel, California (Lancer ranch exteriors) and Hollywood and Malibu Creek State Park (before 1974, the producing studio 20th Century Fox's location acreage near Malibu called Century Ranch, aka Fox Ranch).

[@susanhilmi8679]

wonderful

[@kenhutchings4790]

The series being shown on Sunday afternoons on Heroes&Icons channel

[@margaretp1465]

Lucky Americans.

[@anitamorrison6708]

Also on DECADES channel in the middle of the night (3:00 am CT).

[@lindacorreia428]

H&I canceled Lancer !

[@mariemiller1547]

H&I cancelled all western shows on Sundays....too bad....they were great shows!!!!

[@Foriesto]

24:40 The scene that Tarantino plays off of in OUATIH

[@ardylang8467]

One of the best westerns on TV. Great story n unique local. James Stacy very good actor. Why H&I took off after short run idk. Hope INSP will pick up. Too many of same shows on now.

[@mikelanzano3806]

I'm so happy I can watch any episode at any time here on KZbin, thanks to the person that took the time to post these 💪❤️👍

[@seerstone8982]

@@mikelanzano3806 Better picture quality episodes were removed. I guess they leave these up because the pictur quality is poor.

[@margaretp1465]

Good to hear, Veronica. Such a shame they cut some important parts from this version.

[@scvandy3129]

Keep in mind some of the cuts were due to the anti-TV violence movement that occurred after the King and Kennedy assassinations in April and June, respectively -- months after the pilot filmed and was edited for 1) consideration by CBS for its fall schedule, and 2) to air as the premiere in Sept. 1968. Like the arrival at the massacre site, the hanging man; that turned into a manufactured, sloppy, quick zoom. Additionally the sight of the murdered spouse 'Maria' didn't even make it into the full pilot. TV GUIDE reported at the time viewers would just have to accept the despicable act's bloody outcome from Murdoch's exclamation "oh my God" when standing at the doorway. All those 'bad men' that deserved to be shot -- by Johnny or any of the Lancers or hands -- were just too much for the skittish network censors, who basically rolled over and played dead letting Washington, D.C. blame all of society's ills on TV and movie violence (i.e., not: politics, poverty, guns, racism). Pity the stuntmen who Johnny "killed" that invited family and friends and neighbors over that Tue. evening in September to watch them "take the fall, take the horse fall" only to see filmed evidence of their dangerous work had hit the proverbial "cutting room floor".

[@sharonpolikoff7282]

The attempt to tone down TV violence in those years led to some criticism of Mod Squad and High Chaparral, but those shows managed to hold on for five seasons. And of course Bonanza and Gunsmoke were strong right into the 70s, even with the loss of important characters and other cast changes. I think that Wayne Maunder wanting to leave may have been the main reason for the show ending after two seasons. With the wonderful chemistry between WM and JS, it would have been disastrous to recast the role of Scott.

[@bluzbyker]

I just noticed that this episode used some background music from The Big Country

[@heatherporterfield7343]

Thanks to Tarentino, people of a younger generation know about this show. Leo Di Caprio did a good job of imitating Joe Don Baker.

[@seerstone8982]

Luke Perry had Scott Lancers voice down to a tee.

[@thedarintino]

Holy crap! Joe Don Baker is Day Pardee!

[@margaretp1465]

Ha,ha! Didn't you know? He was good too. I love the part where he says, "Madrid, are you looking for me?" And Johnny replies, "No, but I had a feeling I'd find you." I take it you've come via OUATIH? Welcome.

[@margaretp1465]

True, but unfortunately the colour version cuts out some parts that affect our perception of the story or characters. During the attack on the hacienda, for example, Johnny shoots several baddies before Scott comes to his rescue in The Homecoming, but not in The Highriders.

[@marievanraam4918]

Loved this show

[@shanespivey7993]

I wonder if this is why Quinten Tarantino uses the zoom in fast shots in his movies.

[@MyMusicHarbourage]

Actually, Tarantino introduced these fast zooms in Kill Bill first, which wasn't a neo-Western like Django Unchained or The Hateful Eight. If you remember the old school Chinese Kung Fu movies then you'd recall how the fast zoom shots were used in them, such as Jackie Chan's "Snake in the Eagle's Shadow" or Bruce Lee's "Big Boss".

[@mr.peevyshow1914]

Long forgotten shows

[@margaretp1465]

On the contrary, Lancer is long remembered and loved show. There is an active Lancer fandom, including fan fiction, and a large number of us got together in California to celebrate its 50th anniversary last year.

[@scvandy3129]

@@margaretp1465 Not sure if Mr. Peevy Show is singling out "Lancer" or all the chestnuts from back then. I mean, look how much "The FBI" gets screen time! To a lesser degree, "Mannix". Question for you to answer, please: When and where was the 50th celebration you reference? FYI, Two years prior I was at L.A.'s New Beverly Cinema, owned and operated by Quentin Tarantino, shortly after James Stacy's death where Quentin had the management screen his 16 mm print of the pilot, plus Kirk Douglas's "Posse" and the Oct. 30, 1973 "ABC Movie of the Week" 'Ordeal' (with Diana Muldaur and Arthur Hill), the last Stacy film role before his tragic motorcycle accident. Those in attendance, including Stacy's lady Antigoni and her supportive posse plus "Lancer" pilot writer Samuel A. Peeples' grandson, are FOREVER indebted to Quentin for arranging the near, all night, film program honoring the memory of James Stacy.

[@margaretp1465]

@@scvandy3129 I believe Antigoni and the Lancer fans lucky enough to attend that showing of the pilot etc were very appreciative of QT's tribute to James Stacy. The 50th Anniversary celebrations was in June, 2018, organised by members of the various Lancer/James Stacy/Wayne Maunder Facebook sites. See facebook.com/groups/lanceranniversary2018/ . The two main FB sites are facebook.com/groups/LancerTheBestWestern/ and facebook.com/groups/LancerFanFiction/ but there are several. The UK fans are having their annual get together late September if you're in that part of the world: facebook.com/groups/teamstacyuk/ They're all closed sites so I'm not sure what you'll see unless you join.

[@deadandburied7626]

Quentin Tarantino brought me here. 😆

[@nettmcintyre3057]

Was Teresa shooting too

[@mickeyhill8146]

"You come for a Boston social?"

[@ronniemorris9685]

What's up with the little girl in OUATIH not in this episode? Every, what's real, what's not, I've read about OUATIH says the little girl in the Lancer episode was a real actress (1968) & the name on the back of her chair (Trudi ?) is her real name. Also, said her character's name in the Lancer episode was the same name she had in QT's movie. I've read there were 2 pilot episodes shot. One in black & white & 1 in color. Supposedly, the b&w one was much longer & had more scenes in it than this color one. Perhaps she was in the b&w episode, but, was cut from the scaled down color version? 3 different real, or, not real, articles I read all said the little girl was a real actress in the Lancer episode, her real name was Trudi(?) & her character's name in OUATIH was the same name she had in the Lancer episode. I'm confused!!

[@margaretp1465]

Someone suggested in a comment against 'Little Darling of the Sierras' that Trudi was supposed to replicate Penny Rose in some way. I don't know if it is true or not, but fortunately Trudi was much more appealing than Penny Rose. In some respects Trudi could be seen as a younger version of Teresa who does appear in in 'The Highriders'. Teresa doesn't really show much gumption in this episode, but she does in one or two others. To my knowledge there was never a 'Trudi' or a 'Julia' in Lancer, neither character nor actress. There were a couple of Julies. 'The Highriders' is a cut down version of the black and white pilot movie. It was reduced in length to fit with commercial breaks and arguably to satisfy those who wanted less gun play. This was the era where cop shows and SciFi took over from Westerns, and wounding and stunning was more pc than killing. The scene near the end, for example, where Johnny is shot off his horse and Scott runs out to rescue him is spoiled in my view by poor editing. After Johnny fell he came to and shot several bandits before Scott reached him. Much more believable than the gunfighter lying on the ground helpless and barely shooting anyone during the main action. LancerFan uploaded the pilot; it's called 'The Homecoming'. I only uploaded the episodes she couldn't.

[@jeffbrown8117]

Tarantino simply twisted real history slightly with his movie. It's meant as a homage and to simply be "vaguely familiar".

[@BerlinerinToni]

Regarding 'Marabella', the character played by 'Trudi Fisher' in the OUATIH movie: there is an extra (deleted?) scene on the OUATIH DVD that explains who she is. This scene re-creates the scene where Teresa meets Scott and Johnny arriving on the stagecoach. The script is pretty faithful to the original (much more so than the movie is to Johnny's Day Pardee showdown and bar conversation), but it does make it clear that this 8-year-old Marabella is replacing Teresa's character. She meets the boys at the stagecoach depot, has all of Teresa's lines, including explaining that they're brothers, and at one point, she embraces Scott (Luke Perry) and calls him 'brother' herself. I had also wondered why Tarantino would replace Teresa with an 8-year-old, if he's such a huge Lancer fan. It's a little surprising. Lancer fans really should seek this scene out. Luke Perry really shines as Scott here; it's perhaps his best scene in the entire movie. At one point, just after getting out of the stagecoach, he takes a brush out of his pocket and brushes off his suit (it's quite apparent he keeps the brush there solely for that purpose). It's a hilarious move! Especially to us Lancer fans who know that Johnny had fallen on Scott in the stagecoach earlier; it's as if he's brushing Johnny's dirt off of his clothes. 😁 By this one single action, IMHO, Perry/Tarantino manage to establish Scott as a 'dandy' perhaps better than the original series ever did. It's really a shame this scene was cut from the movie, but it was probably deemed unnecessary since it didn't include either Rick Dalton, Cliff Booth, or Sharon Tate; it was really only of major interest to Lancer fans. I think including it would have helped make more sense out of the family relationships to those who weren't already familiar with Lancer.

[@lindacorreia428]

Cable tv's Spectrum, just canceled airing Lancer, I have no idea why, but it's very disappointing, it was on H&I on Sunday, last episode aired Sunday February 1, 2020, season 2' episode the Experiment, many more episodes left of season 2 but it just got canceled !

[@margaretp1465]

Complain. Let the programmers know people are watching.

[@lindacorreia428]

@@margaretp1465 I did, i emailed the network twice, all I get now from H&I is the programming from their other shows and advertisements for sales, they don't answer the question asked, I told them it's very disappointing why are they cancelling when they're are so many Lancer Fans, I get nothing back, you can't even google the reason why it's been canceled !

[@margaretp1465]

@@lindacorreia428 Good for you. Just because you didn't hear back doesn't mean your action hasn't made a difference. Fingers crossed.

[@seerstone8982]

Great tv western series, and apparently there is a conspiracy to squash it. All of the episode's were on You Tube in decent quality, then got yanked. A few were reposted, for the time being. Disney owns the original film, and won't release it on DVD. You would think that they would at least allow people to watch it, if they won't release it?

[@olavops1000]

To my wife and my sweethearts. May they never meet!

[@margaretp1465]

That's a line from OUATIH, not the original Lancer.

[@d.l.dickerson5489]

@@margaretp1465Actually, Russell Crowe as Jack Aubrey said it first in "Master and Commander." :)

[@dannyv2468va2]

47.06 evil sexy Hamlet dies.

[@rossdurling6208]

Rick Dalton sent me

[@boons32]

I was just waiting for Decatu to say "Now tell her to go fetch her fiddle so she can play her little Chili pepper heart out!"

[@margaretp1465]

I hope you enjoyed the episode while you waited. 🙂

[@sharonkrikorian5609]

How oddly prophetic the writers had James Stacy utter those words about giving up his "arms and legs".

[@porflepopnecker4376]

Glarnis blurf freems.

[@monthergampank9819]

mantab

[@WizardGlik]

How's the beans?

[@ernestgtipping3313]

Music far to loud otherwise a good film. Cheers Tippo..UK. GB.

[@44032]

Where is the little girl with the padded elbows?

[@margaretp1465]

No idea who you're talking about. There is no little girl in this episode, and none in later episodes that I recall had any issue with elbows. One sang 'Oh them golden slippers' with cringe-worthy cheeriness. The others were perfectly normal.

[@44032]

@@margaretp1465 See "ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD"

[@margaretp1465]

@@44032 Oh, I see. It doesn't open here until 15 August, but I'll look out for her.

[@janehull5623]

QT did not follow the pilot script at all in OUATIH. Too bad for us Lancer fans. But we welcome any introduction to new or renewed fans from the movie.

[@44032]

@@janehull5623 Actually, i found the scenes QT shot intriguing and looked for the episode and was disappointed not to see them. But it's s good episode anyway. I like the fact that he used actual TV series and in this, an actual episode instead of just bland, generic stuff.

[@mr.newmanthadreamer8434]

Rick Dalton killed it

[@revomarty1614]

Who the hell is Johnny Madrid?! OUATIH

[@annelonsdale2968]

Johnny Madrid lancer coolest sexy cowboy ever acted by the beautiful james stacy the Brad Pitt of the day back than

[@revomarty1614]

Anne Lonsdale “Who the hell is Johnny Madrid” is a dialog from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, when they shoot “lancer” pilot scene.😄

[@annelonsdale2968]

Go on KZbin watch lancer western it run from 1968 till 1970

[@scvandy3129]

@@revomarty1614 Hopefully by now you've watched the entire pilot -- like a lot of other newcomers to "Lancer" thanks to "OUATIH". To answer: Johnny Madrid, a gun hawk who works both sides of the border, is James Stacy's character's name. Here in central California he's informed / reminded he is the the son of his birth father Murdoch Lancer, biggest land owner in the region, played by Andrew Duggan. And Johnny has a half brother, Scott (Wayne Maunder), Boston-raised and a higher social class than that achieved by Johnny. With the family and money connection Johnny Madrid surrenders his name and, in the tag, announces to all he's now Johnny Lancer. In subsequent episodes, there are occasions where it suits Johnny's purpose to revert to the name Johnny Madrid, a man with a reputation with a gun, and not part of the Lancer empire.

[@scarletmacaw]

@@annelonsdale2968too bad that if you were older than an 11 year-old pre-teen girl, James Stacy wouldn’t be interested in you.

[@sharonkrikorian5609]

I like Johnny's hair better in later episodes when it's straight and shiny. Looks a little like Tom Jones in this episode.

[@laverneweddington4229]

And Ricky Nelson

[@margaretp1465]

Fans of the original Lancer and its cast should know that because of technical difficulties with the old main archive of Lancer fan fiction a new site has been established on Wordpress. If you want to read Lancer fan fiction go to: wordpress.com/view/lancerlovers.wordpress.com

[@debrarick9617]

What was the necklace Johnny Lancer was wearing. ??? Beautiful & unique though!!!

[@mariemiller1547]

It could've belonged to his mother.❤

[@angelagregorio6327]

It was given to him by a priest. It was a Saint Francis medal to protect him on his travels.

[@margaretp1465]

It was never explained in the TV series. Fan fiction has probably put forward theories.

[@karenfliger1426]

I believe a St. Christopher (for travelers) or a St Jude.

[@unclebill977]

Once Upon A Time In Hollywood novel brought me here

[@margaretp1465]

Welcome.

[@seerstone8982]

" Think of me like a sister " Well Teresa wasn't related to them, and she was a babe!

[@shellilogan771]

it broke my heart when I found out James Stacy had become paralyzed from a motorcycle crash!

[@kathygetchel4657]

He wasn't paralyzed: He lost his left arm and left leg due to being hit by a drunk driver. The accident also killed the girlfriend who was riding with him.

[@seerstone8982]

Stacy developed a hoping on one leg technique, he got around pretty good doing that.

[@AzizalSaqr]

He wasn't partied in the motorcycle accident, he did however lose his left arm and leg, he was ae to continue acting afterward in two films, Posse and Just A Little Inconvenience and a guest role on Cagney and Lacey.

[@AzizalSaqr]

That should be paralyzed not parties, stupid spellcheck.

[@seerstone8982]

@@AzizalSaqr Somtimes I ducking hate Spell check!

[@jiriseidl1016]

u těchto vesternů je ostudný překlaf v češtině.

[@jefferysteen1041]

The two actors playing the brothers have no chemistry

[@margaretp1465]

You need to watch more episodes.

[@jefferysteen1041]

@@margaretp1465 I have and they suck

[@GoGreen1977]

​​Well, aren't you the old curmudgeon?!

[@jimlaguardia8185]

Unwatchable!

[@lydia-yh9yp]

Fine. Don't. And leave.