The Hip Hop Wars

The Pembroke Center Associates co-sponsored this talk with Professor Tricia Rose on February 25, 2010 with the Brown Club of Boston, the Asian/Asian American Alumni Association, the Brown University Latino Alumni Council, the Inman Page Black Alumni Council, and the Multicultural Alumni Council of the Brown Alumni Association.
In her recent book, The Hip Hop Wars: What We Talk About When We Talk About Hip Hop and Why It Matters, Professor Rose voices a call for revitalization of the progressive, creative heart of hip hop, which has increasingly become defined by one thin slice of a varied, complex genre. While "conscious rappers" such as Talib Kweli and The Roots may receive enormous critical acclaim, it's the rappers who employ what Rose calls the "gangsta-pimp-ho trinity"- such as T.I. and 50 Cent-who sell the most records and dominate the recording industry, TV, film, and radio. As a result, the most visible and widely-consumed hip hop sets forth a troubled vision of ghetto street life that defines young, at-risk black men and women to each other and also to a large white audience (seventy percent of hip hop consumers are white). After exploring how hip hop has become the primary means by which we talk about race and culture in the United States, Rose offers six guiding principles for progressive hip hop creativity, consumption, and community, ending the "blame hip hop vs. explain hip hop" wars and promoting critical conversations that inspire transformational music as well as social justice for all.

[@kameranabors1397]

I would love to hear her talk about this same topic in today’s musical industry

[@TheRealValus]

Literally, NOBODY is saying that we would have heaven on earth if we just got rid of hip-hop, or certain tendencies prevalent in hip-hop. "Reflecting" degraded conditions, ad infinitum, is no excuse. We must to be willing to reflect the highest ideals we wish to see externalized. And we MUST be willing to examine the influence of anything which seemingly promotes the values by which the very foundations of colonialism are founded and fed; blood-lust, lust for gold, narcissistic one-upmanship, ruthless ambition, and shallow objectification. MIC DROPPED.

[@AmericanMayan]

I Am Hip Hop, 70s baby, Jersey and it is my culture. And with all of that, I agree this house needs to be burned to be rebuilt

[@9175rock]

@Ed Prudhomme 🤔

[@ericrobinson7184]

Brilliant...excellent overview!

[@alb7844]

Great analysis on so many levels.

[@STmac74]

And in 60 years they will say Eminem is the king of hip hop like they did elvis and rock roll

[@nmagain24]

They say it now. Smh

[@stnbch3025]

Well, why not give him a call and ask him to go black like Michael Jackson went white

[@rustyhornzinstrumentalist-7596]

Don't Know How She Just Totally Skipped The D.J. And What He Did With Records on The Turntables, Because That is Where Hip Hop Started From. The D.J. Would Use Two Records on Two Turntables To Cut The "Break" Section Back and Forth, Extending it For The M. C. To Rhyme Over. The Tape Part She is Talking About Sounds Remotely Similar, But Not Really To The "Pause" Tapes We Made. We Used To Play a Particular Section of a Record on a Turntable, Record it on Tape, Then Pause The Tape. We Would Repeat This Process Over and Over, Extending The Section, So It Was Then Long Enough For an M. C. To Rhyme Over. We Did This Because We Didn't Have Two Turntables, So This Would Copy The Effect of a D.J. Cutting The Two Records Back and Forth.

[@starloszelson4541]

You missed her point

[@rustyhornzinstrumentalist-7596]

@@starloszelson4541 Says Who, You?

[@wonderashe]

Black Noise discusses this.

[@rustyhornzinstrumentalist-7596]

Yes Says I, You Read it Didn't You? 😅😅

[@rustyhornzinstrumentalist-7596]

@@starloszelson4541 How? Skipping Something That Important in itself is a Point. Therefore, How Can I Truly Understand Her Point if The Information is Not Complete. I Can Understand it For What it is. An Incomplete Definition. 💯

[@alb7844]

Her intelligence is attractive, I could watch and listen all day.

[@hassansabree8429]

8:35 Does anyone have information about the author that she cites "Hebb Didja"?? Couldnt find anything in my quick google search. I am interested in researching more about this.

[@MCAndyT]

www.goodreads.com/book/show/381067.Cut_n_Mix

[@keithgreenwade2398]

We need more access to these thinkers.

[@warrengrange2005]

Is that where bone comes from?

[@dieselphiend]

The Drug War made ignorance into a tenable career.

[@omalone1169]

Gary Webb . How the CIA created hip hop

[@9175rock]

@@omalone1169 ?

[@gabrielmaroto18]

The movie starring Jeremy Renner kill the messenger

[@gabrielmaroto18]

I think he mean the CIA created the condition which created gangsta rap modern hip-hop that is propagated and exploited by record corporations.

[@mountainlinx]

WoNdErFuL mindblowing woman!

[@timboslice4717]

"Rappers spit rhymes that are mostly illegal, MC's spit rhymes to uplift their people" - KRS-One Here's the Teacha's protégé, the unheralded eclectic emcee : kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4PIZqaspriNY68

[@STmac74]

39.53 is telling

[@paulblissett6662]

Hi BIG PUNNY 🧕🐝🏅❤

[@lemonfish8791]

TFOH‼️

[@nmagain24]

Yall stop faling for the okee doke. It took a downward spiral when it BECAME AND AMERICAN INDUSTRY AND RECORD LABEL OWNERS (MOSTLY JEWISH) STARTED DIRECTING what was "Hot" and what was NOT. Everbody has opinions n shyt about hiphop but EVERYBODY ALWAYS LEAVES that part out. Peace. The truth is the truth, dont believe me, ask all the old former artist they will tell you.

[@MCAndyT]

What's the need in specifying the Jewishness of record label owners? Please clarify how that is relevant information...

[@ragrago]

SuperWoman!!!!

[@9175rock]

Eminem is not from Detroit.

[@Matt-kt9nm]

I can see a series on this on tv , but not a college course

[@____________________________.x]

Hilarious, normally she demands that comments are turned off

[@bwild7610]

I wonder what she thinks of WAP?😵 early Motown Sounds was the greatest era of black music 💯 Eminem is exceptional because of DrDre🤔 Eminem had to be completely outrageous to be noticed.

[@AudioPervert1]

Hip Hop and Rap now exists in many parts of the world, and in many vernacular forms .. American hip hop is finished mostly, just like Pop, destroyed by industry, hegemony and mediocrity ... Also without the Akai MPC Sampler there would be no early-hip hop .... She totally misses the role of the PRODUCER's and ghost Producers behind hip-hop as a sound...

[@glennplummer470]

you need to go back and listen to the first five minutes.

[@makaveliisasalafi9066]

Sharia!!!

[@tapiwakay]

Bruh. KZbin isn't even allowed under Sharia. Sityoassdown!

[@hollitheexaltedempress6957]

Will You folks explain to me the value of talking about the "hip hop culture," without at least one expert in the room?" Where is Latifa, Badu, Sista soldier, Lil Kim, at least one of the artist male or female should have been invited to affirm the theory presented. Without that representation the facts are minimally present the rest is based on hearsay. Art and science are only at the most good friends that have separate personal truths.

[@stnbch3025]

Haha... Experts. More like walking commodities

[@Kitu74]

She may have points..but her delivery is boring and to me it cancels the whole presentation

[@sentinal2343]

is that the delusional woman who told people she is black, only to find she,s pale skinned(tan)and has ginger hair,(dyed), could be wrong

[@9175rock]

No. They dont even look a like.

[@jainadelaney]

No, that was Rachel Dolezal

[@lesleykramer7207]

Is she white or black? She doesn't look black to me - but Americans are strange like that. If she's not black, what authority does she have to lecture people about being black? Let black people tell their own stories.

[@meijelly]

american isn't a race but good try

[@bojackson6198]

look at her hair. Its like wool. ( like the man u call Jesus) Its not strait. She is light skinned because she is either mixed with black and white or there is a white person in her immediate family. She is more than qualified. She knows our struggle but can articulate it to a white person good enough to understand and u still got something negative to say about it. smh

[@9175rock]

@@bojackson6198 🤦🏾‍♀️

[@9175rock]

She's black and white.

[@MCAndyT]

She's biracial. Her dad's black and her mom's white. So...

[@Iankameel]

The irony of being taught black history by a white woman lol

[@MCAndyT]

who's white? Tricia Rose? She's biracial...