The History of Skateboarding's Favorite Camera

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jenkemmag

jenkemmag

3 жыл бұрын

After seeing one too many of our written articles get turned into KZbin articles by rats left and right, we’ve decided to try our own video essay style content.
To start off this new experiment, we wanted to take one of our favorite old articles, an investigation into all things VX1000 originally written by Nic Dobija-Nootens for our second book, Jenkem Vol. 2, and bring it to life for even our most illiterate followers.
We tapped a dude with a good voice, Alex Coles, to help us visualize and narrate the reporting, and the end result, (while still a little vloggy to keep the kiddies interested) is a good first step toward our total domination of the KZbin blogosphere.
MORE INFO: www.jenkemmag.com/home/2020/09...
Original VX1000 Article: www.jenkemmag.com/home/2018/07...

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@LLusion
@LLusion 3 жыл бұрын
you guys did such a great job on making a story about a camera so fascinating
@codaschneider8988
@codaschneider8988 3 жыл бұрын
Woah it’s llusion
@sleepyboi4989
@sleepyboi4989 3 жыл бұрын
Yoooooo I love your remixes
@Burgerss
@Burgerss 2 жыл бұрын
They really did
@elprimo8348
@elprimo8348 2 жыл бұрын
Illusion wtf are u doing here? Do u skate?
@atletekno
@atletekno 3 жыл бұрын
Hsu nollie back heel still makes me shiver with joy
@Erik-cq4vc
@Erik-cq4vc 3 жыл бұрын
one of the best tricks ever caught on film
@MichaelSvenson
@MichaelSvenson 3 жыл бұрын
@@Erik-cq4vc at least at that spot. I'm still a fan of reynolds bsflip at wallenburg.
@aidan33
@aidan33 3 жыл бұрын
Jenkem is going to explode with the quality of this kind of content, Mark my words
@sarcasmenul
@sarcasmenul 3 жыл бұрын
Already did. It’s one of the best skate media
@alh.3025
@alh.3025 3 жыл бұрын
I mean they are at 101k subs so I think they are pretty poppin rn
@dylanstandingalone
@dylanstandingalone 3 жыл бұрын
This scrappy up and coming "Jenkem" thing is gonna be big! Big I tell you!!
@jasondashney
@jasondashney 3 жыл бұрын
I found this video absolutely riddled with ridiculous statements. I was a professional skate filmer during this time so I'm intimately know the whole story inside and out, and I was also blown away they got technical things wrong too. I wrote a larger comment with a breakdown of the problems so I won't repeat it here. I downvoted this dreadful, dreadful video.
@live4u609
@live4u609 Жыл бұрын
I’m a former news cameraman from that era, we used this camera for sports, floating sports cam, and on special assignments. It did well at night too. Then we upgraded to the P2 bucket cams. Back then it was only 2g of storage, later on it went up to 64g. My favorite cam was the JVC GY101, sure it was heavy, and the lens was long. But it was a badass for it’s day.
@memorysometimers3067
@memorysometimers3067 3 жыл бұрын
“Ga Ga GangStarr.....one of the best yet”. Dammmmm. So many skate vid tunes
@youngiiwillii
@youngiiwillii 2 жыл бұрын
Its all good in this buisness of rap
@magaz
@magaz 3 жыл бұрын
I remember back in the mid 2000’s being so jealous of the “pro filmers” near me running a VX and death lens when Injad a jenky handicam and tiny clip on fish eye converter...
@davebell06
@davebell06 3 жыл бұрын
oh man the clip on lens, I remember around 07-08 there was a "raymod" where people were combining the clip on Raynox fisheye with some other wide angle (maybe sony) lens.
@ubahnrider1337
@ubahnrider1337 3 жыл бұрын
@@davebell06 holy shit man i remember this!
@mesohunt704
@mesohunt704 3 жыл бұрын
davebell06 yea I did that by following a tutorial on skateperception. You literally glued this piece of glass from the other lens onto the raynox or whatever the lens was called. It’s been so long I can’t remember. I do remember that it made it a good bit wider. I had that on my GL2 for a bit until I was able to get the mk2. I will never know why I got a GL2 back then. All my friends including our filmer who was very popular on skateperception told me to get a vx1k or 2k but I was a kid so of course I wouldn’t listen. I think I just liked the way the GL looked. Haha thank god I don’t base decisions in my life off looks anymore.
@10DollarProductions
@10DollarProductions 3 жыл бұрын
That was me man! The thing I was most jealous about was the handle on the camera actually. I basically had to palm mine like a ball when I was filming lines. I wanted a handle soooo bad. I miss that camera and clip on fish eye though.
@AHappyMediumSkateboarding
@AHappyMediumSkateboarding 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for including us! Vx1 ♾
@lovelesstv
@lovelesstv 3 жыл бұрын
i am 35, and hearing Photosynthesis described as "raw" when it was hyper-produced(for it's time) is totally hilarious. thank you for this video, quite the trip down memory lane.
@dishwater63
@dishwater63 3 жыл бұрын
Same here (same age too), but I do remember seeing Photosynthesis for the first time and it had such an impact on me. It showed me that skate videos could be art. I watched it every day for a month straight.
@devon5590
@devon5590 3 жыл бұрын
Same age as well, I agree with the art project reference. What was Welcome To Hell shot on?
@beatsbeercigarettes
@beatsbeercigarettes 3 жыл бұрын
The Mr. Dibbs soundtrack was absolutely killer. I still have my VHS.
@Brokemf08
@Brokemf08 Жыл бұрын
Nah memory screen is as raw as it could get. Even before the VX.
@JimmyTheGiant
@JimmyTheGiant 3 жыл бұрын
Great video bro, animations are really nice
@vanheestvisual
@vanheestvisual 3 жыл бұрын
that was awesome. The VX1000 has started so many careers of filming. It was a camera you could film with, learn about, and also hustle. Buy them, fix them, clean them, find the missing accessories and then sell for a profit. I learned how to film with a vx1000 and also how to hustle. High school and college - the VX days. Sold it to upgrade into the HD world and started making money filming things and into a full career. Wish I still had it as shelf art with the big MK1. what a classic look
@dude995
@dude995 3 жыл бұрын
in crust we trust
@DilbertHernandez
@DilbertHernandez 3 жыл бұрын
used to get so hyped to watch your stay stackin edits on skateperception!
@vanheestvisual
@vanheestvisual 3 жыл бұрын
@@DilbertHernandez !!! Sick hell yeah !! Staystackin yallreadyknow
@johnnyc.3261
@johnnyc.3261 3 жыл бұрын
Such a good job on this. FR stoked on this one. Thx Jenkem
@theshiftygod
@theshiftygod 3 жыл бұрын
I’m not the best at skating but I’ll be one hell of a skate historian thanks to Jenkem
@Ricksonsaito8
@Ricksonsaito8 3 жыл бұрын
but thats important!! lots of kids these days can skate but dont know the history!! keep it up
@blb281
@blb281 3 жыл бұрын
I’m 100% positive that Fully Flared took longer than four years to make
@skatefever14
@skatefever14 3 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure it was 5
@ryanhingorani4019
@ryanhingorani4019 3 жыл бұрын
i thought 7, maybe im think of a different video
@blb281
@blb281 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhingorani4019 7 is the correct answer.
@ryanhingorani4019
@ryanhingorani4019 3 жыл бұрын
B Anon Didn’t Stay Gold take a long time to film also?
@blb281
@blb281 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanhingorani4019 Stay Gold had 7 years between release dates with this is skateboarding. TIS came out in 2003, Stay Gold came out in 2010
@rentablebunion23
@rentablebunion23 3 жыл бұрын
Just read the article a couple days back while taking a dump... coincidentally 3 days later taking another dump watching this video.
@jacknicholson3442
@jacknicholson3442 3 жыл бұрын
Lecture quality material
@KRUSTYskates
@KRUSTYskates 3 жыл бұрын
This is why i love Jenkem. I had the VX1000 & VX2000 both with death lenses. I had always fantasized about having one after seeing Emerica TIS, and Girl Yeah Right. We made some dope memories and videos on my channel. Then slowly Majer Crew was born and we all upgraded to DSLRs. The VX will always have a special place in my heart❤️
@kishascape
@kishascape Жыл бұрын
I prefer vx2100. It was a great documentary cam.
@MultiBeautifulDays
@MultiBeautifulDays 3 жыл бұрын
jenkem, if you continue with these videos i promise the reach will be worth it, in the case of the vx1000 article this video felt planned from the get go. loved it.
@shapes216
@shapes216 3 жыл бұрын
What I think is interesting is how neglected the dvx100 is, it’s basically the vx’s older brother that can shoot in 30p and is now far cheaper. I’m a filmer from the middle of illinois and I was able to find mine for around 170$, and it has some serious raw power for the mini dv age. A lot of people claim the colors (which are very very tuneable) and the mic (which is pretty much the same) are worse than the vx, but I think they are honestly much better and much more pleasing.
@SkateJunk
@SkateJunk 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed that the DVX is under rated, there's some "Energy" parts on Thrasher that are filmed with it. I'm a VX guy but I still appreciate some DVX footage.
@MichaelSvenson
@MichaelSvenson 3 жыл бұрын
I filmed the What the Fuck is a Bachinsky video and all the City Skateboards podcasts mainly on a dvx100b and I loved it. I just got an old canon xh-a1 off ebay and experimenting with its hybrid style HD.
@TinLeadHammer
@TinLeadHammer 2 жыл бұрын
Many cameras could shoot 30p back then, even cheaper ones. The selling point of the DVX was 24p, not very useful for skating unless you carefully compose the shot.
@michaellimbeck5671
@michaellimbeck5671 3 жыл бұрын
I just got one as a gift from a retired filmer 🙏🏾😭🙏🏾 Deeply grateful 💙 Started with a Panasonic NV VZ 17 Vhs-C in 2018, updated to a Canon XM1 mid 19 and finally last week I got the VX 🙏🏾💙🌍💦 This video made me appreciate the camera and the gesture of 'the best filmer around' even more. I will live up to this, Niels. BIG TY 💪🏾 CV2020 soon...
@markeugene1293
@markeugene1293 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jenkem! I love the long form videos that are packed with info :)
@CheapSushi
@CheapSushi 3 жыл бұрын
this is so well done, the amount of info, the details, the footage, the history.... awesome all around
@GreenLeaf5656
@GreenLeaf5656 2 жыл бұрын
the title card in the style of old sony manuals. nice touch, also now i know why so many skate videos all look the same
@OM3N1R
@OM3N1R 3 жыл бұрын
This is incredibly well narrated and edited. Really upping the quality. Appreciated
@MonsieurSub
@MonsieurSub 3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible quality of content, I am excited to see skateboarding culture so rigorously examined, with careful analysis and well-constructed graphics. This Jenkem video decidedly slaps
@khrissyboy69
@khrissyboy69 3 жыл бұрын
BAKER 3 was filmed on the Sony TRV900
@cremigproductions377
@cremigproductions377 3 жыл бұрын
are you sure?
@SkateJunk
@SkateJunk 3 жыл бұрын
Cremig Productions a lot of it
@buttonpusher2338
@buttonpusher2338 3 жыл бұрын
Yep a lot of it was 900, a thread-on version of the death lens and not a bayonet mount like vx. Beagle acquired the lens from me and I got the lens off J.Strickland which had previously filmed baker 2g and baker bootleg stuff
@khrissyboy69
@khrissyboy69 3 жыл бұрын
@@buttonpusher2338 hence the clip of beagle sawing the glue to get the lens off. That’s dope, thanks for the reply that’s legendary
@mesohunt704
@mesohunt704 3 жыл бұрын
Yea TRVs were dope. I had one before I got my GL2. The fisheye that went on the TRV was called a “baby death” as in baby death lens. I don’t remember what it was actually called.
@RKWDBMX
@RKWDBMX 3 жыл бұрын
Never clicked so fast in my life.
@sarcasmenul
@sarcasmenul 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@CyrionWillems
@CyrionWillems 3 жыл бұрын
This is such a well made doc! And the nostalgia.... love it!
@WheelMarks
@WheelMarks 3 жыл бұрын
This was an awesome video, it was informative, put to together really well, it was engaging, and it was funny! I really enjoyed the facts, the history lesson and the end with the note on the lasting effect the VX has had on skate culture- please keep videos like this coming Jenkem much respect
@eletor
@eletor 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this and congrats on 100k!
@checker_boarder
@checker_boarder 3 жыл бұрын
Best VX history video I have ever watched. You offered detail where detail is due. I love skateboard media and history produced by skateboarders. Thank you Jenkem. Ps tasteful touch with Miltons track from mouse. RIP KM
@dude995
@dude995 3 жыл бұрын
so glad kerry at video electronics gets a mention. i think this my first time actually seeing what he looks like after knowing about him for almost 12 years haha. he's fixed my vx multiple times, and even translated the menus from japanese to english. dude's a g
@ratinthecat2
@ratinthecat2 3 жыл бұрын
Full of information & extremely well put together video. Very fascinating! Nice work.
@TLFILMS
@TLFILMS 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome doc guys, that soundtrack, keenan forever at the intro, all the digging work, all the references, footages, voice copyrighting, I got all, that’s so cool as filmmaker and skateboarder to saw that
@707lurks
@707lurks 3 жыл бұрын
Jenkem you're killing it with these!
@joms654
@joms654 3 жыл бұрын
the juxtaposition between the vx rail to rail 50 clip and the hd rail to rail 50 clip was impeccable. that attention to detail shouldn't go unnoticed. jenkem is made up of consummate professionals
@joakimulseth
@joakimulseth 3 жыл бұрын
Jenkem always has the content I wanna watch!
@PocketSkateMag
@PocketSkateMag 3 жыл бұрын
that was amazing! thank you for making this!
@gabes8090
@gabes8090 3 жыл бұрын
CONGRATS ON 100K JENKEM! well deserved
@dollabillwill415
@dollabillwill415 3 жыл бұрын
yall are gonna blow up if you keep making this kind of content. so good! id recommend looking at thescore esports' channel as a reference. edit: watched the whole thing and still loved it but it could use more interviews. hearing the quotes from the skaters themselves in the epicly later'd series is what sticks with me.
@gravitykat1100
@gravitykat1100 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video!! Please make more mini doc type content! I love the usual stuff as well but this was just extra sick.
@NormanWoods
@NormanWoods 3 жыл бұрын
Made me nostalgic for puffy shoes and TSA pants. Awesome video.
@TalbinSkate
@TalbinSkate 3 жыл бұрын
Jenkem has done it again. Great video, thanks guys
@hunterdavis3003
@hunterdavis3003 3 жыл бұрын
This is incredible! Great job jenkem
@adambarker9493
@adambarker9493 3 жыл бұрын
Great job, love the instruction manual credit sequence too.
@CFronTV
@CFronTV 3 жыл бұрын
i fw this style of video heavily somehow this is exactly what i've been searching for
@nexismfb
@nexismfb 3 жыл бұрын
WE NEED MORE OF THESE DOCUMENTARIES!
@doctordothraki4378
@doctordothraki4378 3 жыл бұрын
8:10 I think it's the aspect ratio that does that, not the lens so much
@AuntNySkate
@AuntNySkate 5 ай бұрын
nah it’s still the fish eye . you can use different ones and notice the subject get closer or further as well as the surroundings. it’s the reason i won’t use certain fish eyes
@dailydoseofgarbage4940
@dailydoseofgarbage4940 3 жыл бұрын
Probably one of the best videos on KZbin!!
@mikeberrios1859
@mikeberrios1859 3 жыл бұрын
Please make more of these this was dope
@omarmacedo370
@omarmacedo370 3 жыл бұрын
yooo these videos are dope !! keep them coming
@EricE549
@EricE549 2 жыл бұрын
this is so well-edited, why does this not have more views?
@HipHopBeatSource
@HipHopBeatSource 3 жыл бұрын
This was put together so well.
@kaizokureeves
@kaizokureeves 3 жыл бұрын
Dear Mr. Jen Kem, thanks for posting this. Nice work Alex!
@sk8erfreak540
@sk8erfreak540 3 жыл бұрын
I respect that camera but I'm so glad everything is HD.
@diabolical1976
@diabolical1976 3 жыл бұрын
absolutly! I think now if the quality is that bad in todays day and age , videographers are just cutting corners.
@izzybizzy9589
@izzybizzy9589 3 жыл бұрын
hd does not have the golden colors of a vx1000. vx1000 forever
@Phawcet
@Phawcet 3 жыл бұрын
Anyone who loves VX skate footy, you will love Spirit Quest! It might be hard to find, or it might be on KZbin by now, but the shots on that video is not only mind blowing, but incredibly creative and innovative.
@chromebomb
@chromebomb 3 жыл бұрын
13 mins of JENKEM I LOVE IT
@hiaceadventurevan3929
@hiaceadventurevan3929 3 жыл бұрын
Killer documentary!!!!! You guys kill it
@ur_local_vans_modelken3315
@ur_local_vans_modelken3315 2 жыл бұрын
When the guy smashed his vx1000 to the ground my heart dropped
@Mark_GL
@Mark_GL 3 жыл бұрын
We where talking about this camera at the park today. Such a good content Jenkem!
@EverythingsBeenDone
@EverythingsBeenDone 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done! Thank you!
@MrAdrienmartinez
@MrAdrienmartinez 3 жыл бұрын
Well put together. Thank you.
@malcolm341
@malcolm341 3 жыл бұрын
Great documentary, thanks.
@Quesly1
@Quesly1 3 жыл бұрын
I remember in the late 2000s when people were trying to move away from the vx1000 to the vx2000 or the vx2100 and it was a big debate on skateperception and now people are still having those debates but with better cameras. affordable by amateurs is not that true because they were still a couple grand brand new.
@jamiepippin3892
@jamiepippin3892 3 жыл бұрын
A couple filmers made the vx2k and vx2100 with a modded mk1 look good. Chris Burt comes to mind.
@mesohunt704
@mesohunt704 3 жыл бұрын
We had the 1k mk1 forever. My other buddy ended up getting the 2k with mod mk1 which I actually liked. I wasn’t a big fan of the 2100 other than it’s quality in low light. My dumbass had a GL2 mk2 😂. My og perception name was Hunt16er just like my Instagram to this day.
@dishwater63
@dishwater63 3 жыл бұрын
Fuckin' Skateperception. Now that is a name I haven't heard in a long, long time. What a flood of memories that just gave me after reading your comment.
@Wildest_Wahoo
@Wildest_Wahoo 3 жыл бұрын
I miss SkatePerception! 💔
@baqcasanke
@baqcasanke 3 жыл бұрын
The 2100 wasn’t as good for skate filming it was bigger and it felt less durable. But that lowlight was basically witch craft back in the day. My buddy had the gl2 and that was nice and compact but i remember it used to glitch all the time
@cptafar
@cptafar 3 жыл бұрын
Great job on this, so educational
@socialburden
@socialburden 3 жыл бұрын
This is why I love you guys
@Barletta1337
@Barletta1337 3 жыл бұрын
does anyone else nerd out on the background music?
@bmxskate19
@bmxskate19 3 жыл бұрын
what's the song?
@adamj5
@adamj5 3 жыл бұрын
@@bmxskate19 Hahaha
@AaronWandinger
@AaronWandinger 3 жыл бұрын
Thx jenkem for this
@RajonTV
@RajonTV 3 жыл бұрын
Really cool. Thank you for this!
3 жыл бұрын
Soooo damnnnnn good and really well done!!! congrats and thanks for this piece!
@ProdByClockwerk
@ProdByClockwerk 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the shit you guys make is amazing, but this is next level shit. It’s as professional as it gets.
@skarceoneafd9609
@skarceoneafd9609 3 жыл бұрын
This was rad.. thank u Jenkem
@chrisshent
@chrisshent 3 жыл бұрын
Brings back memories. Thanks for the compilation. Let's also not forget Stacy Peralta and his stunning production skills and video studio featured in Public Domain. I filmed on the Canon XM-1. Loved the color science better than Sony's. The mic wasn't as good as the VX1000 though. I used the Century deathlens with bayonet mount.
@312falsefooty
@312falsefooty 3 жыл бұрын
Baker 3 was filmed on a trv900 beagle even said that in an interview
@doubleghetto
@doubleghetto 3 жыл бұрын
thanks jenkem for the gold content
@therealpoka
@therealpoka 3 жыл бұрын
This is AMAZING. This is the kinda nerdy skate stuff I love
@conradzacharias3981
@conradzacharias3981 2 жыл бұрын
Yo this was FANTASTIC🙏📽📽
@slob710
@slob710 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine the porn industry tried to hold on to the vx "feel" like skaters
@donovanimg
@donovanimg 3 жыл бұрын
this brings a tear to my eye
@memorysometimers3067
@memorysometimers3067 3 жыл бұрын
Damn that background beat at the first was from an older vid...Hot Chocolate maybe !!?? Hmmm. Awesome memories!!!
@Nilobich
@Nilobich 3 жыл бұрын
baker 3 i think
@nikomyorobinson8147
@nikomyorobinson8147 3 жыл бұрын
Very well done!!!
@djfrigidfire
@djfrigidfire 3 жыл бұрын
Read the article a bit ago, solid vid
@neighborhoodturnt
@neighborhoodturnt Жыл бұрын
I got a vx 2000 off Amazon years ago and it’s works fine other than the menu scroll button is glitchy but it’s still puttin in work💪😤
@TheAnnoor
@TheAnnoor 3 жыл бұрын
The vx1000 were also really popular in bmx videos and I remember wanting to buy one as a teenager, it has an incredible authentic style. But today a panasonic gh5 with a Sam yang, Canon fisheye are the way to go, a skate video shot in 4k 60fps, high bit rate colour and some great colour grading is superior,
@7evive
@7evive 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video!
@netnavigator3264
@netnavigator3264 3 жыл бұрын
Loved this!
@JakeBorchenko
@JakeBorchenko 3 жыл бұрын
What a production! So sick.
@kdc6
@kdc6 3 жыл бұрын
Great piece 👌🏻
@SurfRawFiles
@SurfRawFiles 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this!
@DevonFrohne
@DevonFrohne 3 жыл бұрын
I got the PD-150 in 2002 after college. I used that thing for so many fun snowboard and rave videos
@yanglu13
@yanglu13 3 жыл бұрын
i'm in love with this video
@thedcarpo
@thedcarpo 3 жыл бұрын
I wish I could subscribe again. Sick stories guys, thanks. 😊
@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel
@TheClassicMotorcycleChannel Жыл бұрын
Great video
@matheuspetroli931
@matheuspetroli931 3 жыл бұрын
niceee video jenkem!From brazil here...go skateboarding
@BurnerProd
@BurnerProd 3 жыл бұрын
omar salazar mind field! Thank you jenkem for jogging my memory
@triplflip900
@triplflip900 3 жыл бұрын
Man that part has really stood the test of time for me. Might just be my favorite.
@Mikeysb___
@Mikeysb___ Жыл бұрын
JENKEM PLS DO A FULL VIDEO LIKE THIS ON THE MK1 VS THE XTREME 🙏🙏
@Saygoodbye130
@Saygoodbye130 3 жыл бұрын
Love jenkim. Good shit
@rangoononline
@rangoononline 3 жыл бұрын
Great video about an awesome camera. I started making youtube videos using one of those when I visited a friend in Cali that shot skate videos using one. He also had Final Cut on his computer. I think it was like 2002. Good times!
@Naltddesha
@Naltddesha 3 жыл бұрын
rangoononline KZbin in 2002?
@rangoononline
@rangoononline 3 жыл бұрын
@@Naltddesha Good point. Naw, I was making videos and exporting them as mov files using quicktime. Then, I hosted them on a website I made. Pretty much the only people that could watch them were people in college that had access to high speed internet. You can check them out on my channel cause they're all archived.
@Naltddesha
@Naltddesha 3 жыл бұрын
rangoononline ah- I see. That’d be cool, how do I find them?
@rangoononline
@rangoononline 3 жыл бұрын
@@Naltddesha kzbin.info/www/bejne/jp3Xo4qJfZWWkJI
@Naltddesha
@Naltddesha 3 жыл бұрын
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@BobbyDigital864
@BobbyDigital864 3 жыл бұрын
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@arusure
@arusure 3 жыл бұрын
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@untiromas
@untiromas 3 жыл бұрын
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