The History of the Gypsies (Roma)

[@LivingIronicallyinEurope]

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[@zrnov1934]

Goofy ah music is very goofy 19:53

[@shorts.221rs]

Bro i find these vids offensive and relatable at the same time. How are you doing that???

[@death-istic9586]

Hi.

[@Slavicplayer251]

is the music between 19:00-20:00 waltzing matilda?

[@veldrensavoth7119]

Now imma be real with you. As an African American back in 2021 I thought the balkans consisted of Greek gypsies and Turkish gypsies. And that’s why tall hated each other. That’s pretty damn ignorant but I’m just showing you how far I’ve grown.

[@znalniaskas]

Never ask: -A woman about her age -A man about his salary -A European about what he thinks of Gypsies

[@DatterAfDanevang]

Or a gypsy what they have in their pockets 😅😜

[@ytubestolemyhandle]

it's all fun and games until your neighbor sells his house to a gypsy family as a revenge to another neighbor and suddenly you have 7 gypsy families with concert grade speakers blasting their "music" through half the village all day so loudly your entire house is vibrating like a subwoofer

[@kaliyuga1476]

Only the people that have met gypsies now why they are hated

[@neinzukorruption9321]

@@ytubestolemyhandle I think this is one of the examples the poster meant. It is only problems with them. In a perfect world they go back where they belong and where they came from.

[@artemis83]

​@@ytubestolemyhandle if they just blast music we can way you are definitely lucky. The next step is to find they filled the stairs with trash and, sometimes, dead animals. I have an apartment that has been in that situation for years, and I was just empty, because it wasn't even possible to rent it. Finally 7-8 years ago police expelled all gypsies (2 apartments occupied, one by not paying the rent and the other straight occupied because it was empty) with "kindness" and we were able to restore the area.

[@razvangrelus5664]

One of my best friends from middle school was a gipsy. He disliked being called roma. Was a really nice guy, smart, well-mannered and now he is a physics professor at a university in the UK. His brother on the other hand is in jail for stealing cars in Germany.

[@Embrod]

Why he disliked that?

[@anonemusofficial2511]

that's dosne't mean its ok to call them that. Its like saying "i had a black friend who didn't mind me saying the n word"

[@juannaym8488]

​@@EmbrodI am gypsy/Romani I am not bothered by being called Roma but I think the term is kinda... idk it just doesn't feel right. It's less inclusive than gypsy but honestly feels somehow more loose. Like I have a clear picture when I hear gypsy, I don't have a clear picture when I hear Roma. It's hard to explain I guess it would be how some black Americans prefer being called over black compared to African American? idk

[@Mr.Calm.]

​@@anonemusofficial2511 they just don't like the "Roma" denomination. It's like you calling a black man negro to them.

[@juannaym8488]

@@anonemusofficial2511 I think it's smart to ask a Roma person how they handle describing their ethnic background. My family prefers gypsy over Roma, but there's people with opposite views too

[@Pipsonite]

As a Slovenian gypsy (or half gypsy to be precise), I can say that the mentality of people as well as the overall picture has changed a lot since my childhood. I live in a gypsy village that resembles a typical local village with all the needed modern infrastructure (electricity, water, internet, proper housing...) and is considered one of the most advanced and organised romani settlements in the world. Also most people now have jobs and are getting educated. I myself have a college degree and work at a reputable company. The stigma is partially still there, but it is also easy to see that it can slowly but surely be erased if the correct steps are taken by society, both the gypsies and the rest.

[@Yeargdribble]

So I have a serious question for you. How do you feel about the term gypsy? You self identify that way. I'm curious because as a professional musician I see this coming up more and more when it related to the specific genre of "Gypsy Jazz." I get some people want do away with harmful words and be more sensitive, but this seems like one of those times when white people want to intervene in a performative way rather than actually caring what the people themselves thing. I care a lot about this because black Americans really did have their own music (original jazz) sort of stolen and coopted by white people and then sort of white washed. That's my concern about Gypsy Jazz being relabeled as Jazz Manouche. I feel like in a way it robs the historical ownership of that style of music from the people even if that's not the intention behind it. Obviously I feel like how a given people feel about the terms matter more than a bunch of well meaning white folks. You're just one person and no group is a monolith, but I'd really love your opinion on the topic since I just don't have access to a lot of people I can actually ask about their feelings on the terms Gypsy, Roma, Romani, and Jazz Manouche.

[@petermikolay]

@@Yeargdribble In Hungary: 'Roma > Gipsy was a '90s 'invention' of the Lefties. There were Skinheads, there was a need for sensations for the press, (as always). Huge loads of money were spent to targeted education, + several other helping projects. But the crime rate wouldn't lower, nor the school marks rise. They scapegoated the: 'racist whites'. Also stole the money. (The white politicians this time.) Check dis out: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alad%C3%A1r_Pege The main page wouldn't mention his ethnicity, but if you scroll lower: 'Categories: ..Hungarian Romani people'

[@Pipsonite]

The answer to this might not be that simple. The word gypsy is often used as a slur, but it depends on the context. Among Romani (at least where i come from) the term is often used in conversation without malintent, depending on the language you converse in. Conversing in romani, the word would be "roma", but conversing in Slovene you would often say "cigan", meaning gypsy. I myself would not take it lightly if I hear someone saying it with malintent, but among friends it is accepted and i would retort with the same word. When it comes to music, I see no problem with calling it "Gypsy Jazz". As a musician myself, I can immediately identify the music by this description alone and see no need to relabel it otherwise. Although the word "manouche" in some romani languages would mean "person" or "man", which is probably an attempt to make the term more culturaly acceptable, but as i said, I have no problem with calling it Gypsy Jazz and would actually prefer this term to any other.

[@revengance4149]

@@Pipsonite Im from Germany and I wouldn't use the word "Ziegeuner" because it sounds ugly to me. Kinda like, pardon the weird comparison, "ficken" means "to fuck" but sounds way more ugly than it's english counter part. German words are really hit or miss regarding aesthetic sound."Gypsy" sounds normal enough to me but it's interesting that it comes from the misconseption that Gypsies come from Egypt

[@patternwhisperer4048]

O zigano

[@cathcartjames]

Wow man, this might be your opus. So much history here I was unaware of, presented as entertainingly as ever. Excellent work.

[@LivingIronicallyinEurope]

Thank you so much

[@csmrookie9600]

This is a great lesson in history about the Balkans and its culture. But I believe we can get much higher.

[@user-zd2iu6xu2h]

@@csmrookie9600we can and shall

[@thewingedhussar4188]

​@@LivingIronicallyinEurope Lol wow the US must have been child's play compared to Europe.

[@mr.mystery9338]

​@@thewingedhussar4188 read up on the islamic slave trade too. That is a whole another can of worms.

[@mr.pearly7478]

As someone studying Tudor England, I must clarify that Gypsies were considered "vagrants" in Tudor England, which at the time was a big social issue for the country. Vagrants were unemployed people wandering the country for jobs, believed to be the cause of much of the crime and evil in the country. Initially gypsies were tolerated (despite having laws passed against them to leave or assimilate into English society) and were successful in jobs in entertainment, music, and arts. However, once the issue of vagrancy was seen as a national threat, gypsies were treated with much more fear and suspicion, and there was a belief that English born gypsies were simply pretending to be gypsies to avoid being considered a vagrant. The reason they were branded with a V and eventually put into slavery was because they were later seen as vagrants, wandering the country for work and crime, not just because they were gypsies.

[@andre3328]

I don't know much English history, but I thought the Magna Carta prohibited slavery? Wasn't that what started the anti-slavery movement in the 1700's?

[@amf9797]

@@andre3328 Also not much into English history but in most Western and Northern European countries, slavery was actually prohibited pretty early on in the Middle Ages, enslavement of foreign ethnicities, especially non-Christians and non-Europeans however was justified either by excluding them from the application of said prohibition, or by passing new laws allowing slavery of certain people. For example France abolished slavery in 1315, enslavement of blacks in the colonies was allowed in the 17th century and a "Code noir" was passed to regulate how it worked.

[@therealspeedwagon1451]

@@andre3328I thought slavery was abolished on the British Isles in 1805. It wasn’t abolished in their colonies until much later on, as in Australia and Canada indigenous peoples were sometimes used as slaves and Canada had a small population of Africans also used as slaves.

[@bjjkickboxing7876]

Racists RARELY do racoata acts just because of "race" even the mazis have ENTIRE books explaining the material reason to do what they did.

[@roberthartburg266]

@@therealspeedwagon1451 The definition of what a slave is can change heavily depending on the era and country. Medieval serfs are not slaves and stand in the social class above slaves, yet if you would treat people today like a serf others would see you as a slave driver and you would be guilty of human traffacking.

[@nonymous1393]

Only watching this to be racist more accuratelly

[@_LeFish_]

My grandfather was a Gypsy from Hungary who fled communism in the 50s~60s. I never had the chance to meet him but after seeing this video, I can imagine his life was hard.

[@juniorjames7076]

When I lived and worked in Turkey teaching English I had two Turkish friends who (secretly) told me about thier Gypsy ancestry. One (college administrator) told me she was Bulgarian/Turkish/Gypsy because her grandparents were kicked out of Bulgaria in the early 1980s when Bulgaria was kicking out Muslims. She said her ancestral family were Gypsies in Bulgaria who converted to Islam in the 18th century, and became middle class working for Ottoman administrators until the World War 1. She could speak Turkish, Bulgarian, English, understood Kurdish, some Farsi and some Arabic. She had extended family members living in Bulgaria, Lebanon, Armenia, Germany and Turkey.

[@rap1df1r3]

There's almost no one whose life wasn't hard during those times in this region...

[@stg213]

Where is my scooter?

[@jdkoz98]

Same

[@aceclubs3059]

So you are a gypsy yourself

[@andrewdubose9968]

Gypsies have worked hard to earn their reputation.

[@virginiansupremacy]

gypsies are cool their women are hot, send some over to northern virginia

[@itsAlyxx]

bastards stole my bike when i was 7 =(

[@thecomentingcat6280]

no

[@andronikos6198]

@@itsAlyxx same lol

[@RuiLuz]

And then they ask: "Why are you racist against us?"

[@h-0046]

I am Romanian and yes... they ate my ham church ;(((

[@joaopedro-t4h7x]

i am from serbia, and i can also confirm, they done ate my cheese church too😢

[@ZariaTudor1]

My grandpa told me about his brother was kidnapped by gypsies in Italy as a child. They were able to save him but you can’t bring up the word gypsy without it triggering his PTSD.

[@duqial]

And here I was not believing my grandma fully when she threatened me with it as a kid 😮

[@ZariaTudor1]

@@duqial believe her cuz she’s speaking from experience. It’s not an empty threat

[@mariusneumayer4419]

They WILL kidnap and turn your child into an handicapped, thrown on the street to beg and pick him/her at night to collect. Ask me how I know

[@tarotakras6409]

The holocaust museum in Budapest has a lot of information about roma people 🖤 if youre ever in Budapest i highly recommend swinging by! I was lucky enough to go when there were no tourists and i went through the entire musem without seeing another visitor, and i was there alone. It was such a powerful experience, something about the loneliness definitely made it have a even deeper impact on me!

[@nokedili]

it's name is terror háza/house of terror and it's also about the communist times, i also recommend checking it out

[@rap1df1r3]

Don't get fooled by it, it's full of lies.

[@Rapture-t3m]

​@@rap1df1r3nuh uh. The current actions of the gypsies Isn't excusable but there past and holocaust persecution is real

[@kokonoe124]

I have been looking for concise videos on the origin of Gypsies and this explained it better than anything else I have seen on youtube. What a wild fucking time we live in.

[@KYLgonk]

There was one about gypsies which covered several tribes and why Roma and Tsigani are not necessarily the same. Will try to look for it.

[@rap1df1r3]

@@KYLgonk "Roma" is just a name for the same kind of people that woke politicians use to signal virtue...

[@MrTodalexandrov]

Deam that was depressing as hell. Very good video thanks. From the few i knew they have absolutelly no clue where where they come from and what happened to them.

[@mikecampos1193]

Klaus Schwab and George Soros still hates them or use them for which isn't good either.

[@rap1df1r3]

Nor do they care, nor does it really matter. What matters is how they behave, and it's really messed up.

[@idontknowmyname7370]

@@rap1df1r3 Yes the gypsies also poisoned my crops and salted the earth so nothing would ever grow again. Look I have a bit of a surprise for you. Both white people and gypsies commit crimes. Shocker right? Not only that but there are both white and gypsies live in poverty. Albeit the gypsies live more in poverty. White people rob, gypsies rob, white people kill, gypsies kill and to be honest i've seen more "hood" white kids in my town than gypsy kids, even if they live in a two story house. Also funny thing, I found an EU chart named "Victims of crime by ethnicity" and gypsy sample size is less than 100, showing that the EU doesn't really give a shit about them. Funny.

[@baciu14]

As a romanian, i can say we weren't taught about slavery in our own country. It is sad state when you pass through gipsy villages and see the state they are in. We have a long way ahead with integrating them into society.

[@Medvelelet]

I agree. Same thing in hungary. Several people tried to assimilate them but none succeded so far. Hopefully that will change. Their demography is much better than the hungarian and romanian one, so that needs to be fixed too..

[@definitelynotvepar6019]

As a romanian? u mean as a gipsy?

[@paulmed42069]

​@@definitelynotvepar6019what is bro yapping about

[@Medvelelet]

@@paulmed42069If you hate romanians you like gypsies because when they chose 'Roma' as a name for themselves they knew that americans will think Romania is the country of Gypsies.

[@sjm8510]

@@Medvelelet did they though? Or did the Hungarian government just throw money at the local bureaucrats who stole most of the appropriation, gave a tiny fraction to the Romas and then pointed fingers at them screaming see "not succeeding".

[@IHearColors]

Thank you very much. I am a romanian, I never knew they had such rich but sad history, this wasn't learned in any history class. I heard from a older gipsy that some of their traditions (like marrying when they are still children) were this way to avoid their young girls being "taken" by their masters, by I thought this was in the medieval times, I never knew they were slaves until recent time

[@mariusneumayer4419]

THEY are dangerous and destructive

[@babutler1607]

Oh boy this comment section will surely be tolerant and not racist at all!

[@antonpersson1869]

not racist if its true

[@dankxen0n804]

@@antonpersson1869 isnt that what literally every racist ever says and thinks?

[@antonpersson1869]

@@dankxen0n804 uuuuuh

[@duqial]

​@@dankxen0n804 it's not about the race, frankly race theory is bs, it's about culture.

[@danh6720]

To be honest, less than I expected.

[@P3t3rminator]

This video is probably your best so far. Congrats on this achievement! Thanks for the hard work and for giving us insight into this often overlooked topic.

[@AltsekBUL]

Hard work: reading wikipedia while showing you their meme collection

[@P3t3rminator]

@@AltsekBUL Tell me you know nothing about writing an essay and video editing without saying it :D Why would you make such a stupid proclamation?

[@ajvenom1047]

I worked for hobby lobby when I was 18-23 and loss prevention called any women wearing skirts and stealing "Gypsies" being young and having an american public school education I had No idea that was a slur. It was so normalized every manager , every LP person I talked to called anyone and everyone stealing a gypsy. Its so gross and I cant believe that I barley learned it was a slur at 24. Its so sad but thank you for making this video. I knew it was a slur but i had no idea what the romani people have been through and I have such respect for thier prevailing spirit

[@elesvazul]

Finally someone done a deep dive of the history of gypsies! Respect to you Living Ironically in Europe!

[@babiyarnazarismaily6207]

Gipsies played a huge role into balkans development😂😂😂they built churches,😂hospitals😂,univercities😂,schools😂bank institutions etc.😂😂commooooooon😂😂😂

[@Intel-i7-9700k]

As per the video, Balkan people built churches from ham or cheese. Gypsies built churches from bricks. That tells you everything.

[@theladchad]

They stole the fiber optic cables of my friends village in romania

[@greekoutcast]

Classic. In my area, they steal street lamps, wooden planks from benches, clothes that are left out to dry, car wheel rims, cars, any type of cable and everything else thay can

[@ElGrochon]

They fucking killed my gf mother and then destroyed her house when her family left, we saw the remains when she got back in the country, it's a mess, everything was stolen, water pipes, cable, etc were deviated to other home and big dog were all over the garden, we needed to RUN, the entire hood who was once pretty calm is full of those big gipsy house they contruct with stolen money from the west, it's disgusting, that sympathetic take on those people is shit, they ain't multi-century old being who remember bein slave, tigani of today romania didnt experienced slavery, stealing and making crime is just part of that so called culture.

[@LordOfSweden]

I saw one steal like a big ham in the store.. they also throw sht in the streets at eachother..

[@o.h2202]

In Mikkeli 2002 two gypsy/roma groups started shooting at each other in middle of town square, my mom was at there when it happened and she ran into mcdonalds for cover.

[@SleepyDove-cx2cy]

Well, I guess people are lucky for the way they was treated

[@jaredspence3020]

Love that you used Gypsie music throughout and then pivoted to an Australian folk song at 18 minutes. Very topical

[@Threezi04]

lmao I caught that too, I was like "why is he playing waltzing matilda??" not that I was complaining.

[@Carloshache]

You forgot to mention that like many outcast peoples, many Roma are excellent musicians. This is something that the Roma have alot in common with the other former slaves such as African Americans. A majority of the hardest Balkan Brass bands are Roma. And Roma music was also very important in the musical history of many countries and especially Romania and Hungary, and Roma influences feature in both popular folk music and classical music. In this way, Roma culture is synomynous with Balkan culture. Also then in Spain there's the whole Flamenco business with its many amazing musicians such as Camarón De La Isla and "La Singla" and many others. Straight up fire.

[@dannydanny2789]

Yeah if you didn't work a day in your life you get plenty of time to practice music skills

[@Carloshache]

​@@dannydanny2789 You sound like a boomer, a racist boomer! And you clearly don't know anything about this. Roma people used to do the work that everyone else didn't want to do. Take Flamenco legend Camarón de la Isla for example, he worked as a child labour Blacksmith his whole childhood, and Roma women in Spain worked as basket weavers (canasteras) , which is a menial job.

[@Carloshache]

@@dannydanny2789 LOL. Romas have throughout history worked the hardest, most menial jobs ever. Like plating metal with tin or making baskets.

[@kobil316SH]

As a gypsy myself I really appreciate this video. Subbed

[@mgtowproperties]

Really con son cha Vista?

[@Mkbhdisthebestongong]

Slave

[@mgtowproperties]

No you’re not don’t lie

[@mgtowproperties]

No you’re not don’t lie

[@Pyker51]

I had only one gipsy friend my whole life and he stole my phone 🤣 he even had the audacity to ask me for the charger after

[@mariusneumayer4419]

YES. They will turn on you too. This is who they are

[@garybacon659]

There's a decently sized Roma community in Texas, mainly in Fort Worth and Houston. You wouldn't be able to distinguish them from any other Texan. Crazy how different it is in the states.

[@martinicc67]

Yeah the smart and lucky ones went to America, we're stuck with their retarted cousins.

[@mikecampos1193]

I'm guessing they're very heavily armed so they're just as mad as hillbillies or are the hillbillies themselves we never know?

[@barkasz6066]

No surprise there really. The oceans keep America incredibly insulated. Only some of the wealthiest, most educated and hard working gypsies who are willing to assimilate would make it to America.

[@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave]

as in can't distinguish by looks? because they're pretty damn different looking than your average white American. They might even look Mexican. I think you might be thinking of Romanians, which are similar in name but not anything else. That would explain why they don't look any different, Romanians are white afterall.

[@virginiansupremacy]

because they weren't as persecuted and treated like complete shit here

[@gugalaxy7772]

But Borat told me they were witches and wizards.

[@hadinapokalix7329]

a bunch of them are into witchcraft

[@DacianRider]

why ? because of the Jewish house scene ? XD

[@xxxilluminate5754]

As a Gypsy he’s not wrong there are Gypsies that can do dark magic similar to voodoo hence why we were cursed in the bible because we originated from Cain however most gypsies are christian or muslim and follow the abrahamic God

[@dariusv8573]

Some are tho

[@thetechguychannel]

The Greek "Atsigani" (untouchable) may have been an exonym born out of dialogue with the gypsies about their provenance. They were people of the Dalit caste in India for the most part, which would translate as "untouchable" there as well. It's why some minor movements to "return to the homeland" were met with absolute disdain by Indians themselves, sometimes with pretty terrible threats. Let's just say their former cohabitants don't have a very high opinion of them, either.

[@rap1df1r3]

Careful, too much truth means you're "racist" and will get you deleted/banned.

[@specularverzide9972]

Without a shred of irony the gipsies are way better than indians. Never met an indian i liked or one that was competent.

[@GelloWello]

TBH tho Gypsies are about as European as Hungarians and Bulgarians imo. To try to ‘return’ them back to India makes as much sense as returning Hungarians and Bulgarians to the steppe.

[@slXD100]

@@GelloWello why focus on bulgaria and hungary? just say all of eastern europe, as far as i know all the slavs come from or around the steppe (they were pushed into europe by the huns).

[@Dragoncam13]

​@@GelloWelloVast majority of Hungarians are pretty much slavicized ethnically,very similar with bulgarians só I don't get your point

[@kurohitsugi4831]

Lmaoo I am a gypsy and I didn't even know most of these things myself. None the less I am proud to be one, there's no shame in it what so ever. It's only shameful how some gypsy's behave but man.. after listening to all of this, the gypsy's smallest problem was how to raise their kids in order to behave, which goes on even today sadly.

[@juannaym8488]

Gypsy here too. Yeah I agree. Our behavior of distrust towards authorities is the natural consequence of our history, but it's high time we change our culture to the better and fight systematic oppression by joining society

[@asmo_1929]

​@@juannaym8488the blame is split, racism and poverty is a big reason why they are not integrated in a lot of countries. People should be more empathetic

[@vald4324]

Tell your kind to be more hygienic

[@Deni-nl1ce]

Bro I feel you the 99% really destroy the reputation of the 1% ❤

[@mork6780]

I would say that it's the opposite. A small percent destroy the reputation of the majority -- as it is with many other cultures that get a bad rap because of a few bad apples. @@Deni-nl1ce

[@darkoshadowfury]

Overwall good video, but the chapter of contemporary romani was very lacking. Maybe you will make another video about their current life and "traditions". A few examples: requiring them to stop their studies and start working at a very young age, marrying severely underage, arranged marriages, encouraged domestic violence against women, the encouragement of extra-judicaiary "law enforcement" (i e " I think you wanted to hit my wife, I'm entitled to kill you"), total disregard of hoast countries laws, begging, prostitution, corruption. I would like to see what you think of the couses of this anticulture and how the states can counter them.

[@ColoradoStreaming]

I recently watched a documentary on the Roma thinking all the above were stereotypes but it was all true. Especially the arranged marriages and girls being humiliated sexually before marriage to prove their 'purity'. They all ruined a community Soccer field to have a party and didnt even do anything to help the owners afterward who ended up having to bulldoze huge boulders in the entrance to keep them from coming back.

[@rap1df1r3]

He won't cover any of these, he even stated that he believes "they're only hated because people don't know their history". In other words, he has his woke blinders on and it's unlikely that he'll ever take them off.

[@candyman348]

@@rap1df1r3 They're hated because people are too dense to understand the difference between individuals and ethnic groups.

[@RaduRadonys]

@@candyman348 That can happen when a large number of individuals in a certain ethnic group do the same deeds.

[@christinanielsen1917]

I had an uncle who rented one of his small modest homes to gypsies. There were 8 family members within 2 bedrooms. Pretty soon there were over 50 of them. Nearby i was a waitress in a diner. All 50+ came into a separate dining room seated for 36 people. Not only rude and condescending but actually put their hands in my deep wide pockets and removed my dollar bills. Half walked out without paying ( they put the check in the trash ) All the ketchup/steak sauce bottles had disappeared. I also lived in Greece. Quite common to see Greek people and their children being rude to them. At the time prime minister Papandreou tried to provide housing for them but they refused to go ( this was in the early 80s). I was told by the Greek people ( because I scolded them for being so rude to them) that they injure or maim their children so they can gain sympathy from tourists while they beg for money. Hitler destroyed the gypsies and French leader ( sarkozy whose father was a Greek jew )paid for them to leave France. They took the money, were transported and then returned back to France.

[@mariusneumayer4419]

TOTALLY UNDERSTAND AND KNOW your experience. Read my comment above

[@juannaym8488]

I haven't heard of the injuring children thing, but I've seen many cases of gypsy parents teaching their kids to act mentally handicapped or to pretend to be in main to gain sympathy

[@tamilow0.257]

I liked how you put this creeping background song in chapter6. I don’t know what it is, but this kind of music just fits so well to WW2 war crimes

[@Arkus123]

Its from a game called papers please

[@0631ix]

I've been lurking this channel for months, it's fun place to be, this video is much more serious content and I love how you've done it. Subscribed now. Please continue some more with serious videos and don't forget making the funny ones also.

[@ЗинединЗидан-м3у]

In Hungary we have so any of them but I never knew where they came from till now😭

[@Medvelelet]

That's shocking, I thought it was common knowledge. For us at least.

[@Edem-py1ij]

Well, you were supposed to learn about them in history class. Its part of the curriculum, like theres a whole lecture dedicated to them.

[@Medvelelet]

​​@@Edem-py1ijMost kids don't care about history. Sadly. Not just in hungary.

[@Edem-py1ij]

​@@MedveleletYeah it's really sad, because the key for the future is hidden in history.

[@emptysoul8462]

@@Edem-py1ijoften gets skipped to progress faster with the “more important” historical events. id argue its crucial to learn about their history to understand their modern day struggles completely.

[@TyrantSolo]

I would make a nationalistic Hungarian comment, but do they have a land and do we really want to claim them (this is a joke, I mean no harm, was this one to far)

[@LivingIronicallyinEurope]

Never

[@TyrantSolo]

I agree, this video looks really good and well made good job on it​@LivingIronicallyinEurope

[@LivingIronicallyinEurope]

Ty ty. Lots of hours went in. Especially from the team

[@TyrantSolo]

@LivingIronicallyinEurope you are one of the most dedicated youtubers on the platform all of your videos are very well organised and informative in a manner that makes the videos entertaining and educational at the same time, thankyou for making such great content

[@LivingIronicallyinEurope]

@@TyrantSolo thank you so much for following and supporting me. It really means a lot. Cheers man

[@bamdadkhan]

huuuuge respect for this video (or as they say in hungary 'akurvaistenbasszameg ez gecire erős'), it is actually one of the most well-researched yet enjoyable ones on the subject - something that is sadly mostly overlooked. i would welcome more like this.

[@Sssmg789]

That was great! Well written, easy to follow. Much appreciated.

[@superpoodlehead]

My father said our family was from gypsies. It’s true. My last name and DNA shows 50% Balkan and Eastern Europe. My grandfather was from Czechoslovakia. But the history of gypsies has never been as thorough and well-presented as this video! Thank you! ❤

[@vlina4123]

In Romaninans knezats not only Romas were slaves, but Tatars(prisoners) too in much smaller size. Romanians have been enslaved by Tatars too. Tatar and Cossack rides, stealing locals for the slave trade was practiced for centuries! Some Roma that were freed could rich high status in romanian society: in the military, land owners, boyars, state adviser/minister, and in the end of the 16 century Ștefan Răzvan was the First Roma ruler of Moldova for less than 1 year. In Romanian knezats boyars had many different ethnic origins even Tatars and Roma all tru in the same period those ethnicities majorities were slaves in romanian societies!

[@erikuchiha81]

Im gypsy myself I and my family have never ever stolen in our life my parents and myself and all my friends have worked most of our lives we did not choose to be gypsies If you ever have had any bad experiences with gypsies I’m sorry but we are not all the same no it is not in our nature to steal most of gypsies in Europe steal to survive but not all

[@quinbatcheller5805]

I feel like humanity never learns. In many regions we've had a good half a century or so, and now we've gotten bored and forgotten the lessons we learned about racism. Now it's swinging back the other way towards extremism and inflicting misery upon groups that we other. History repeats its self, and we in the present day are not better or above the acts of our forefathers. In fact I think we're heading towards repeating them.

[@kuroenekodemon]

As a Canadian I never knew these people even existed. I just never seen them anywhere in my corner of the world so it was nice to learn more about them from this video

[@mariusneumayer4419]

You better don't encounter one. You look them up (search the internet) you will find out who they are...it will be to late. "Late" for what ? They destroy everything they touch, and where they go. I hope they don't show up in your neighborhood.

[@ferencfarkas2729]

@@mariusneumayer4419😂😂 .. your a clown loser may god curse you you unnatural geek ! Love from a roma gypsy from Canada 🇨🇦 ❤✌🏽🔥⚔️

[@ilarilapikisto3250]

In Finland Gypsies are called Mustalaiset which translates as the black people

[@kleinornot3763]

How do they call black people ?

[@rabbit0.023]

Oh great 😒 leave us out of it

[@yunkixz]

And that itself is a slur a lot of romanis in finland don't like to be called that.

[@ilarilapikisto3250]

@@kleinornot3763 blacks are called just 'mustat'. The Gypsies sometimes call us Finns 'valkolaiset' which means the white people.

[@ilarilapikisto3250]

@@rabbit0.023 wouldn't that be splendid?

[@isg4]

I'm romanian and I used to think Romania was never caught up in all the inhumane slavery practices Watching someone tell me Romania was the equivalent of the Confederacy before it even existed was a crazy unveiling of historical events that I was never taught in school and cracked my romanian ego a little

[@thieph]

"Romanians", no. Only the nobility had them in general, and is a generalisation to say like that.

[@specularverzide9972]

Nah romanians were based, they knew what they were doing. I'll give you another example of romanian excellence; during Ceausescus time he sold romanian born Saxons, Schwabens and JEWS to Germany and Israel. A regular guy had a price of $10,000 and someone skilled would cost up to $100,000. Kids were $10,000 a pop. He also tried to sell Hungarians and Szekely to Hungary but they weren't interested. Unfathomable based.

[@fuckhead8139]

@@specularverzide9972imagine being so deluded that you’d label the equivalent of human trafficking as “based”

[@Ungehorsam]

​@@specularverzide9972 AHAHAHAHA

[@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave]

@@specularverzide9972 not based, he refused to sell gypsies to India when India offered. Therefore he quite literally de-europed romania's population and left only cigans (not counting ethnic romanians). Not based at all.

[@efenty6235]

my school tried a DEI type program to give gypsies in poverty a chance to get a good education. out of the three kids, one girl left due to ostracism by her class, the other girl got pregnant at 16 and dropped out, and the guy couldn't pass his matura because he was too busy worling to support his single mom that he didn't have time to study

[@ginalaslau]

im romanian and i went to romania and the amount of gypsy hate i heard from my fam was crazy

[@aguywholovekittens8438]

Wait ?? Romanians are Gypsies no ???

[@RaduRadonys]

@@aguywholovekittens8438 No.

[@popahtrj]

@@aguywholovekittens8438 think of it like americans. you think of white people when you hear that term but really its an umbrella.

[@johnnyblue4799]

@@aguywholovekittens8438 It seems that you have a death wish!

[@emanzuzelsilverberf]

when i was a kid a gyppo stole my fucking pringles can

[@juannaym8488]

Just the can? Like, without the chips?

[@emanzuzelsilverberf]

@@juannaym8488 yea sure bro i just had a can without chips laying around like any normal person

[@gablan1468]

I rented out an apartment in Bulgaria to what the real estate agent promised me, a young Turkish couple. They seemed okay, although they were a bit dark. The apartment is a very tiny one - a big bedroom with a separate kitchen, ideal for just two people, but not more. One year later, I found out that there had constantly lived more than 10 people instead of 2, even up to 15 at times, some would just come and go. Of course, they all turned out to be gypsies. Luckily, we were able to save the apartment without any major damages, and we managed to politely kick them out without any fight, but my god... Never again.

[@habibikebabtheiii2037]

I lived in some government housing in Germany. In one week on our floor two families moved into the same apartment one after the other. The husband would beat the wife and get kicked out but the wife would leave with the husband. Then the cycle repeated with another family. All in one weak.

[@richardraymond878]

Very interesting post young Man. Well done

[@ioan_jivan]

Seriously, one of the best videos you have 100%

[@benkucukkensarsnmsm1621]

my part-time job manager was a well educated man of culture of cigan. he was so fun to be with. i often ignore my other student colleagues to talk with my manager about music, books, documentaries, religion and other stuff he was interested in. he has so many fields that his hearts laid on.

[@abyssalczech6719]

Dont even thing where we came from we just spawned at the wrong server we mistook european continent for the african one and soo thats whe it all began

[@eagleone5456]

I have zero connection to the Roma but man I have a lot more respect for them after this video. I never knew anything about them really.

[@mariusneumayer4419]

It's better this way for you. Hope you never have.

[@Chessepice-cl2lx]

technically I am gypsy, cus my indian dad came to spain, meeting my mom, they went to the states for a degree, I was born. for the next two decades, I've been to three countires, changed schools, and houses.

[@Zaheed-ip8mp]

NRIs are technically modern day gypsies 😂

[@austrelien298]

Every personal interaction I've had with Gypsies (in Paris and the UK) has been negative, sad that their people's history has been so hard, but if you try to pickpocket me repeatedly I'm going to think badly of you

[@popularentertainment7360]

Most roma gypsy in the uk hide there ethnicity or don’t seem gypsy when you meet them you’ve probs meet plenty of nice roma you just did not realise

[@austrelien298]

@@popularentertainment7360 It's certainly possible!

[@popularentertainment7360]

@@austrelien298I’m roma in the uk and most roma are not visible the only roma visible are the ones from Romania in long skirts who beg on the streets 😢

[@zivkovicable]

@@austrelien298 So what's worse petty crime born out of poverty, or centuries of slavery & a holocaust wiping out 40% of your population? Is it any wonder that some think badly of white Europeans? Every European Gypsy has a relative who never returned from the camps...As others have pointed out, Gypsies on the street will always be more noticeable than the majority who are settled and go to work every day.

[@adamcastorp6415]

@@zivkovicable Cr!me is not born out of p0verty. There are c.ultures who would never r3sort to cr!me, no matter how p00r they were. This belief comes from st@tistically-man!pulated studies, and are used to e.xcuse the cr!minal b3havior of various m!norities. And, either way, this is no just!fication. Nearly every r@ce, c.ulture, or ethn!city has been, at one point or another, d!scr!minated aga!nst or even ensl@ved. G.ypsies don't get a pass for that, and truth be told, much of the info in the video is h3avily ex@ggerated and l!es by om!ssion.

[@DonPatro92]

I tried to explain this to the gypsy window cleaner at the traffic light, but he was only interested in the 50 cents.

[@louleke77]

I must say, this is one of your greatest video so far! Thank you a lot for taking the time to do it, it changed me!

[@mrksrecko34]

I did NOT, expect the M'habre theme here

[@DimitrRaev]

They can be really nice people, when they manage to separate form the usual toxic environment they are forced in.

[@popularentertainment7360]

No one forces us to do anything we prefer our ways and you whites are just mad about it

[@Endaretainer]

@@popularentertainment7360 Do the needful saar

[@Romulu5]

Forced in by who?

[@_Majki_2137]

In my city in Poland the older ones are okay and not so aggressive but the young ones about 15 - 25 years old... Oh boy. They are loud in the middle of the night and always aggressive and always threaten you if you don't give them money or cigarette. They are carrying knifes but not for self defense and will most likely throw empty beer bottles at random directions either a car or a person and if it not lands on the target they will most likely start shouting slurs at you lmao.

[@zaynib0961]

omfg?? this is definitely not talked about enough. TYSM, my grandmothers maiden surname is Romani and i've always felt the need to look into our history.

[@Fishstick911]

My only experiences with Roma/gipsy people have not been so great. There was a family that used to visit my restaurant and complain/plant hairs and so on to get heavy discounts until we 86d them. 2nd encounter was with a family(school aged children included) begging on the side of the road for gas money during the pandemic. They were clearly not from here nor were they going anywhere seeing as they were out there everyday. I hope to have better encounters.

[@gerrybailey447]

You won't.

[@MultiSciGeek]

I mean 2 encounters is nothing... I get what you mean, but you gotta meet more people... Especially those who don't come from f*cked up backgrounds, as sad as that is.

[@Flintob]

Excellent research and presentation, great structure. Emotional rollercoaster as well, with the memes in the initial history but then becoming increasingly disturbing as Romani history became more and more unjust and gruesome. The eerie music in the part on WW2 was well-chosen and amplified the already strong feeling of shock and disdain towards the Nazi treatment of the Romani, Jews and other groups... Thank you for your work!

[@TheAmericanAmerican]

As an American and therefore a complete outsider to this topic, I do find the Gypsies' historical struggle fascinating. We Americans get very little exposure to Gypsies(think positive with Disney's Hunchback of Notre Dame and negative with Borat😅) so imagine my surprise when I learned that they have been treated like absolute garbage all throughout "Progressive Europe". Sure I get that lots of people think of them as "filthy thieves" and such, but what else do you expect from a group of people forced out of society? We'd all do the same if forced into a similar position... Hopefully their struggle is finally coming to an end and they can join us in our struggle of fighting against the Capitalist ruling elites lol

[@PhillKaggitz]

A Gypsy got one of my wife’s friends pregnant, he disappeared during the whole pregnancy and then show up during the labor and tried to kidnap the baby. The cops couldn’t catch him and he has not been seen ever since (10 years ago).

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

At least he took the half breed with him

[@rap1df1r3]

Your wife's friend sounds like she's been infected with the woke... This happens a lot, brainwashed leftists learning about reality the hard way...

[@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus]

Funny how everyone here has some story about their "wife's friends". Almost as if there are bots spamming this comment section with the same story.

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

@@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus Why would sb create a botfarm specifically for gypsy hate? Russian would not be interested and i don't know if you noticed but CIA manufacturing of consensus ops would attempt to be sympathetic to gypsies.

[@rap1df1r3]

@@wasserruebenvergilbungsvirus Not really... I wrote my own anecdote here days ago, but it was deleted apparently...

[@RedWindField]

Django Reinhardt brought me here. I'd say he was the most "culturally advance" guitar player of his time. His brilliant music has been a force of influence on musicians, specifically guitar players. It breaks my heart to find out about the history of the Gypsies but discovering this has also highlighted their incredible resilience. Knowing this I'll hear, even more, how transcendent his music really is.

[@chazlewis8114]

Great content. Appreciate the well researched vid.

[@crypticcorgi8280]

I am a Gypsy. I am just a normal dude like any of you. I have a job and I pay bills. My people face a lot of discrimination. I just want to be treated fairly and kindly. Like I do to everyone else.

[@Deni-nl1ce]

Give me back my bike

[@crypticcorgi8280]

@@Deni-nl1ce Get gypped racist.

[@crypticcorgi8280]

@@Deni-nl1ce Ah, a misunderstanding, I earned it. Your mom gave it to me for doing so good of a job on her one night.

[@pandapariah1075]

​@@Deni-nl1ceGive us back our land.

[@Deni-nl1ce]

@@pandapariah1075 go to india

[@RogerYeahmon]

strange group.. most humans seek opportunity to better themselves and create a better life.. not the Roma..

[@popularentertainment7360]

Because we’re content with what we have we seek happiness it’s a spiritual thing we cannot control you’ll never understand and even if we try to better our lives it’s nearly impossible in many parts of Europe

[@RogerYeahmon]

@@popularentertainment7360 i was in Brno recently, the stench coming from the derelict building where the Roma lived almost made me sick.. it surprises me anyone can be content living in such squalor.

[@popularentertainment7360]

@@RogerYeahmon well for many Roma that live like that is normal they got used to it if you weee raised in such a building you yourself would end up getting used to it

[@andersstrick]

I had a Gypsy colleague in the Netherlands who was born in Transylvania, but was adopted as a baby to Curacao. So she never saw her parents and their culture, she was raised in a host community on the other side of the globe...., and yet she had this unadulterated wild gypsy mentality and behavior. But at least she possessed an employer, to say one positive thing about her. I also had a gipsy classmate in high school in Hungary, who was a really nice gentle person, well trained and educated musician by his family tradition. And of course I met a lot of gipsy caracters in between. It all comes down to the very simple question of the willingness to integrate into society. I always have to say: It can't be a problem if someone has a different culture... until has any.

[@loup7723]

My grandma was from Greece and would warn me to watch out for gypsys in the midwest in the 90s 😂

[@Fuckingenius]

In Hungary the jails are full of them. Its their kind of diploma.

[@DacianRider]

same in RO. running out of jails to stick them in.... now they roam free ! hide your kids !

[@andreivasilescu1675]

same in Romania, 7 out of 10 gypsies have been at least once in jail

[@marinsimeonov2315]

Growing up in Bulgaria, my parents used to tell me that if I don't finish my plate, the gypsy kid would be stronger than me in a fight. I find this inspiring.

[@hdmofo6757]

even if youre stronger, he'll just come back with his 6 siblings and 12 cousins to gang up on you and then be protected as a minority group and get barely into any trouble.

[@l2qz711]

@@hdmofo6757 ICANT

[@danielciocilteu3545]

Good example of how racial and ethnic discrimination begins in childhood and is taught by bigoted parents. My mother also suffered from this irrational hatred of gypsies because she grew up with a few bad examples of gypsies in her village so she assumed that all gypsies are like that. It is true that because of a lack of culture and poverty, many gypsies take up a life of crime, the same is true for any other ethnic or national group that is exposed to similar social conditions. But because gypsies are still a minority in most european countries, most criminals in jails will still be a majority of european (white people). In short, poor people are poor no matter the color of their skin and if you grow up in a poor neighborhood and you have an above average intelligence you will probably make it your life mission to escape that place and become successful somewhere else.

[@alexanderdimov4768]

Bruh same, my parents also told me that if I sing on the table im gonna marry a gypsy.

[@UsualCivilisationDestroyer]

I was also threathened like if they would kidnap me

[@slavicemperor8279]

Being someone born and raised in Montenegro the first time I had actual experience with Gypsies was when 11 years old me and my ten or so friends about my age went to play football behind our school. First we were playing between ourselves, then about ten Gypsy kids came and asked to play against us. We agreed and both parties enjoyed a fun time until the eldest from the Gypsy group said he wants to keep the ball we were playing with, which was actually decent quality and belonged to my friend. He obviously refused to give it to him, which made the Gypsy crazy mad. He punched one guy who was telling him to go away, but eventually they ran away and we continued playing football between ourselves like we did before Gypsies came. Then after maybe half an hour, love and behold, an actual horde of 20-25 Gypsies, armed with wooden planks and metal pipes approaching our football field. We ran for dear lives, hid in a supermarket for 20 minutes until police came to disperse their crowd and let us go home.

[@williec.1540]

That's crazy! What did your parents say?

[@ferencfarkas2729]

@@slavicemperor8279 yeah as a Roma I’m not surprised but please understand we have different type of Roma groups and each groups has their own values way of thinking traditions music styles dances and etc we are not all the same .. we don’t look at these stupid low life ones as our own just like the none roma don’t get along with them it’s the same within roma communities we are nothing like them and they are nothing like us as if we were two opposite ethnicity’s from each other .. there are the musicians groups who just plays music entertain there are the traditional roma families who makes their living by either working and or buying and selling things and there are these crippled poor Roma families who usually lives on the outskirts of the towns villages where they grow up with nothing and from those they have these individuals who’s batsh.t crazy kinds like wild street dogs that’s how they live and grow up ..

[@R.0.M]

basic cigan expirience

[@Slicky165]

Those damn Romanians

[@R.0.M]

@@Slicky165 tsk tsk tsk no no no its cigani

[@eurosonly]

When I was growing up in eastern europe, my parents would tell me that if I misbehaved, the gypsies would come and take me away.

[@AnthonyOMulligan-yv9cg]

Did they?...... take you away?

[@Bulmaatthemecca]

🤣 me too

[@TheAtomoh]

Here in Italy this has happened once. A bunch of gypsies took a little girl hostage inside a shopping mall. I also got robbed by them once, and they illegally settled in a private farming land near where i live. Maybe it's just the ones in my area, but they are the worst people i've ever met. They are like a fucking barbarian camp from Civilization games. I swear my country has the worst type of gypsies.

[@TheAtomoh]

Here in Italy this has happened once. A bunch of gypsies took a little girl hostage inside a shopping mall. I also got robbed by them once, and they illegally settled in a private farming land near where i live. Maybe it's just the ones in my area, but they are the worst people i've ever met. They are like a fucking barbarian camp from Civilization games.

[@cele1977]

Same 😅

[@FedeTL]

I have a Gypsy friend, he's a really cool and fun guy, but my biggest mistake was i accidentally mentioned him once infront of my Romanian classmates, now they greet me with a "O Tsigan" every morning 😭😭😭

[@TrixetYT]

Damn Edit:Thanks for the likes guys :)

[@DianneWilderASMR]

it is the Balkans 😂

[@razumikhim]

as they should.

[@Poltargot]

Welcome to the gang, Țigan cel Mare.

[@Azraelseraphim]

To me you're either a Krkan or a Tsigan.

[@SheikhShakshook]

Borat’s home village was not in Kazakhstan, it was in Romania. Sasha Baron Cohen lied to the Gypsy villagers saying he is filming a documentary to show the struggles of the Roma community. They didn’t know anything about Borat and he didn’t give them a penny.

[@The213D]

Classical (((Cohen))) behavior 😄😄

[@parnasse797]

Keep in mind it was a Romanian studio

[@JethroBulmer]

Typical Jewish behaviors

[@bastardowl]

Based

[@steverambo4692]

Tricky fellow that Mr cohen is huh

[@skootzkadoodles]

I think the biggest challenge is school. I have seen really bright little Roma kids who don't even try to listen because nobody at home cares. And if they do try to do well they get put down a peg by the community. Had a 6 year old kid who said she wanted to be a nurse but knew she couldn't because she wasn't allowed.

[@mukkaar]

So true, from what I know there's quite prominent anti school and anti integration narrative in Roma families. I knew few growing up, but it always seemed like they just dropped out at one point or another, or they just went to "expected" professions. While I do think the face racism, quite bad at that sometimes. I do think it's self inflicted quite a bit. Roma seem to have quite strong culture that really just stops them from climbing up.

[@moirakadhan745]

@@mukkaar I mean, I wouldn't blame them for being wary of any kind of integration after literal centuries of slavery, and multiple attempts at genocides.

[@eetutiiro4808]

roma parents are trash ALWAYS

[@anate9]

The Romani is a cult not an ethnicity

[@TheArcturusProject]

Yea they’re doing really well on their own now

[@dulogmaz]

I can't tell you how many times my schedule was messed up because the gypsies kept stealing copper wires from the railway my train was on...

[@Alan2ez]

how do you know if it was a gypsy?💀

[@初日の出_初日の入り]

@@Alan2ez people from the Balkans know why

[@yzzduk4743]

@@初日の出_初日の入りracism? Yeah

[@BCSimonYT]

they weren't stealing, they were framed according to the guy who made the video.

[@dad49998]

@@Alan2ez because no one else steals copper wires

[@sarmgoblin8482]

Used to play football with a Gypsy when I was younger, used to be a real chill guy but now he’s a hard criminal

[@alexgdv10.30]

No surprise there xD

[@lorddrazharofprussia4693]

Natural development

[@ModernHellene]

No way dude I would have never guessed

[@rabbit0.023]

Ok so I know nothing about Gypsies. Is this a stereotype? Is it normal? Are all gypsies criminals? Someone explain plz

[@sjm8510]

Is it Orban?

[@thehun1234]

In the 60s I had a gypsy classmate at the university in Budapest. He came from the eastern part of Hungary, near the Soviet (today Ukrainian) border. He said that his biggest problems were not with Hungarians but with other gypsies. Every time he visited his parents in their village during holidays other gypsies beat him up because "he wanted to be white". One year he ended up in hospital for several weeks because of this beating. Of course, no witnesses were prepared to testify. After that, he never returned to his village. He worked real hard and managed to graduate.

[@Embrod]

So, similar situation with blacks in murica.

[@Mr.Calm.]

​@@Embrodyes. Only Gypsies are much worse in the tradition department because they actually have a whole culture behind it.

[@eatinsomtin9984]

most gypsys are white though

[@Cesko_Plny_Fialovejch_Zmrdu]

​@@eatinsomtin9984 No they're not

[@lumenart7328]

​@@eatinsomtin9984 no they're not lmao

[@health019]

As a Bulgarian, I can confirm that a share my village on the outskirts of Pleven with several Romani that casually make me play Yu Gi O cards with them . Every night we all cast a curse on the North Macedonians as well.

[@dyawr]

Lol

[@rossengeorgiew9589]

Какво? Ако псуваш макендонец, псуваш кръвен брат или сестра. Омразата крепи разделението!

[@schalker2901]

Mega based

[@Boretheory]

😂

[@byleexs1991]

so cute XD

[@norbertkrafcsik3628]

Hungarians and Romanians putting aside their differences just to persecute Gypsies is a true Balkan moment.

[@Dibu-lk5bj]

Romanians and Hungarians and anyone from this part of the world knows how it is with Gypsies

[@Fastwalk-rm7xv]

Gypsies make hungarians look like sweet bread

[@Bob-wl7jy]

you look so unmanly

[@mohamedfarhat3046]

The true white moment is whites attacking other cultures over and over again ... typical

[@timewalker6654]

Lol bro catching strays

[@miklosz4162]

In my Polish town not so long ago we had a self-proclaimed "king of the gypsies", he was an extremely respected and was de facto the head of the local gypsy community.

[@nutsbroker5687]

Yeah they tend to organise themselves this way, a family member working in the Belgian immigration system told me he knew three different « king of the gypsies »

[@danutmh]

I think a lot of countries with a significant populations have a self proclaimed king. Here in romania we also have/had one.

[@faloberrow9250]

a w jakim miescie?

[@solce809]

@@danutmhPoland doesn’t have significant gypsy populations

[@bendikmanum3132]

Usurper! Everyone knows that the one true Gypsy King was the late Rene Karoli from Norway! If there is to be one now it must follow his line to the closest living relative of the Karoli clan! (jk btw, but we also had one)

[@juliavashkevich4839]

During my childhood my family had to live in a neighborhood with Gypsies. God forbid that any of you reading this comment have such an experience. We couldn’t leave anything outside of our house, and sometimes they would even break into our house to steal. We had a garden and they would also steal every fruit and berry from there. Once my dad bought me a bike and the next day it was gone. The neighbors Gypsy boy was riding it. My father went after it, they swore and spat at him, even threw rocks and him but he returned the bike. Their family was just very sad, the father didn’t work and the mother made money by stealing wallets. Once they finally bought a car they rode around on it like it was a royal carriage and tried to flex it as much as possible. Then they started selling drugs. And then we moved :)

[@pep_talker1444]

Most accurate description of gypsy culture lol

[@letthelightshinein]

They aren't all like that. Trust me.

[@unicornkimchi]

My apartment complex right now 😂

[@harxxa6436]

Gypsies are like the black people of Europe

[@whitehammerwow]

@@letthelightshineinwe will believe it when we see it

[@ernomakra4524]

A gypsy friend of mine literally been thrown out the window as a baby, he's adopted and has great parents, he was abusing drugs for a while. Now he has been off drugs and he's been working a lot, both on himself and financially, he's been going to the gym and he's a very good friend

[@StrikerEStrikerovich]

Jesus

[@frankenweeny8785]

What kind of monster would literally throw a goddamn BABY!?!? Wtf man!!?!?

[@djangodjango5694]

​@@frankenweeny8785 You haven't seen the video/gif of the gypsy woman using another kid as a mace against a guy? Or heard of how they make like 12 kids and send them to beg or mutilate them for extra money especially from the states? I assure you any stories you heard about gypsies are probably sanitized for the internet, even this video

[@rippspeck]

@@frankenweeny8785 Maybe the house was on fire and he was safely thrown into the arms of another person?

[@frankenweeny8785]

@@rippspeck We don't know that

[@christoforostsiknopoulos1907]

avarage greek has dark skin ? wow i didnt notice 27 years i live in a lie ! u can just check some things at least before u upload ,like how we look like at least

[@Weeboslav]

Funniest(and saddest) part is that politicians use Romani people as cheep voters in Serbia and Montenegro. In Serbia,few years ago,Romani managed to get Hungarian party a lot of seats in a place where Hungarians make less than ~3% of population due to wrong advertisement. In Montenegro,politicians buy Romani votes for 20 euros while Romani themselfs live in slums. Few days ago,a slum in Bar(coastal city in Montenegro)burned down,killing 4 people(2 or 3 were underage). There was also Karton City(cardboard city)in Belgrade that was,as it names implies,made out of cardboard and nearly 1000 people lived there.

[@LietunantGreek]

In my country, the leftist party used them by telling them that they where gonna give them rights, it was a plus of almost a million votes

[@yankochoynev652]

yay democracy!

[@addi2x06]

The same phenomenon occurs is Romania, where local politicians give them "gifts" and "get-out-of-jail-free cards" in exchange for votes. The worst thing I've witnessed is politicians giving them tips on how to scam the national social insurance programs, incentivizing dirt-poor gypsies to have more kids, because more unemployed, uneducated gypsies = more votes.

[@astericksgd6707]

same in russia 😳

[@adama.kamara]

Wow 😮

[@Anakin1999]

Interesting that the Greeks & the Balkans called the gypsies “untouchables” when they descended from the untouchable Dalits of India

[@KemTrivedi]

The same thought came to my mind, but then I wondered if there was any certain proof that they were Dalit.. it wouldn't show up in DNA tests I guess.

[@dreamystone]

There's some openness to interpretation here with the terminology used. I'm a native greek speaker and I've always understood the term to refer to land. "Those who don't touch land", as in settle on a land. But I had a conversation with a gypsy this one time, where he explained to me that in their culture the rest of us are considered impure, so being in contact with us is to be avoided. I guess it could refer to multiple things.

[@miles2957]

@@dreamystoneThank you for this perspective!

[@Anakin1999]

@@dreamystone interesting, is the gypsy saying that the Greeks and non-gypsies are impure as that would make sense as Christians & Muslims would be outside the caste system and thus be “impure”

[@HolyRamanRajya]

It could come up in ancestry tests and comparing the ratio of ANI/ASI genes. Since we know they came from north india we can compare the same ratio among privileged and unprivileged castes in the region

[@stranger9131]

Funny how the Gypsies are almost never mentioned when talking about the Holocaust, in western countries. I have studied both in the USA and The Netherlands, at prestigious universities, and the Holocaust was brought up quite frequently (especially in the US) but the killing of the gypsies was straight up denied every time. For them, only the Jews died, and when I pointed out the it wasn't true, I was threatened by my professors. I grew up in Romania, surrounded by gypsies, in a poor neighborhood. They were, and will always be my friends, and seeing their history being erased by a specific group of people that I won't name, is frustrating as fuck. Later edit: Even though half of you say that you learned about the Gypsy’s history with the Holocaust, most of you also agree that this history was barely mentioned, while the major focus was on the Jews. That’s the idea! It’s easy to “forget” about these people when that main focus is on the Jews. Agree with me or not, but most teachers choose to only speak about the sufferings of the Jews. At the end of the day, the Gypsy’s never use the Holocaust as an excuse to commit genocide…

[@Chinothebad]

As someone from the US, part of me would say it depends on what history book you're reading that'll mention who perished in the Holocaust. That said, I can't recall well if they mentioned them. Then again as I said, it was a history book for Americans and as far as I know, we don't have the same experience or level of knowledge compared to the rest of Europe such as Romania.

[@watching7721]

I remember a story about how a guy was on a European forum and mentioned how gypsies were frequent victims of the Holocaust, and then was banned for talking about the Nazis in a positive light

[@martinicc67]

That's because in Eastern Europe, everyone wants the gypsies gone.

[@astartesfanboy5294]

Idk I got my education in the US and they always mentioned Slavs and gypsies during talks about the Holocaust

[@fungo6631]

Perhaps because there's few of them in those areas. Or maybe the (((History teacher))).

[@andersbjrnsen7203]

Its amazing how you have gone from mainly a "balkan comedy" channel to a history/anthropology/geography channel!

[@barney2x4]

Although there are problems in the Gypsy community in Bulgaria (poverty, theft, prostitution, etc.) here is an interesting story - I was smoking with a co-worker of mine outside my office 4-5 years ago. A little gypsy kid, about 10 years old, was ridding a (non-electric) scooter nearby. I told him that he won't be able to jump over a curb nearby and this 10 year old became cocky as a 15 year old ("Who...me?! Ofcourse I can do it!" and the like). He gained speed and just barely jumped over the curb with his scooter and I told him "OK, let me treat you to something from the cafeteria" and I walked inside, him following me. The lady behind the counter started yelling "Oh, hell no, get out of here, you!" and I realised she was talking to him. I was baffled and asked "why?" after which she asked me if he is with me, I said "yes" and she muttered "well, OK, then". This 10 year old boy, that was cocky as a 15 year old a minute ago, became shy as a 5 year old. I asked him if he prefers Fanta or Coca-Cola, Bounty or Twix etc. and he just kept saying "I don't know" with his head down. I got some drinks and candy-bars for him and he said "thank you", while still keeping his head down. I am not sure what went through his head, whether it was the first time he experienced such things, but to be honest I replayed this event in my head and I am angry at myself for not doing 2 things - scolding the lady at the counter and trying to talk to the kid afterwards (altough I still don't know what I am suppossed to say in this case). If the lady (~50 years old) behind the counter was a man my age I would probably have told him to go f&ck himself...but yeah, I think about that sometimes. The kid probably thinks about it more. He should be 14-15 years old now, probably angry at the world around him. The moral of the story is - it's not important whether the chicken or the egg came first (people in the Balkans know which debate I am refering to), it's important to think about solutions and treat people the same way you want to be treated.

[@popularentertainment7360]

A lot of gypsy kids are like this they fear white people especially older ones they usually treat them very badly overtime they develop hatred towards the white population and that’s how they end up becoming known asocials 99% of the time their behaviour and ways would change if society started treating them like human from a young age

[@marcusgronstrand5408]

As a gipsy from Finland, I can tell you learn from a very young age that you are different and unwelcome to most things. As a child you know its because of your heritage, but still see yourself the same as everyone else, and wonder why am I disliked when i do nothing wrong. Mostly to deal with this you either pull out of non-gipsy circles or grow a very hard shell to protect yourself of constant hurt. There are many flaws within our culture, but much more beatiful things. Some wander for the darker path because of not getting a fair chance in life. Getting an apartment, job, friends etc.. are very difficult even tho you dont have criminal record and have good credit scores. Some people ask me about our black magic even in this day and age. Thank you for your story, good deeds carry far and can impact someones life greatly.

[@TheFiddle101]

There might have been a disagreement between the older lady and the cocky boy so it was best not to get involved. There's a smart looking Gypsy community near the town of Dryanovo in Bulgaria (the houses are looking better and better every year, and there is a nice children's playground built by the commune). We know a few of the Gypsies as we've employed some of them for seasonal work, and on occasion given them a lift in our car. There are still flashpoints in Gabrovo, but here, things are getting better now as Gypsies work in local shops, garages, schools, and for the town hall. There are outreach projects from the community and children do attend school.

[@helvacihelva]

I took 2 Bulgarian gypsies with my taxi and somehow they stole the cars floor mats from the back. Also when I was living near a gypsy neighborhood, my cars antenna and window wipers would get stolen in like every other week. I've moved away from there and I don't take gypsies as clients anymore. Not because I'm a racist of any kind, (I'm a foreigner in Bulgaria too) but just because it fixes "my shit is getting stolen" problem. I don't care about root causes, I just know what I see and what I experience. So that lady had a point, definitely she has more experience with gypsies than you. People who defends gypsies, usually are the people who live in a bubble, in a safe space where they never have to deal with gypsies.

[@atenindustries1131]

bro, I want to hug you

[@jotascript03]

Fun fact: Here in Brazil, in old times the gypsies were experts in fixing mechanisms in sugar mills and other mechanical devices. They were called "gringos" and were always mysterious, remaining on the margins of general society, trafficking native spices and African slaves that they captured or stole. In the 19th century, when Englishmen mechanics appeared to build and repair the railways all over the country, they were called "gringos" by the population because they performed the same technical function as gypsies in the past, that's why to this day in Brazil we call foreigners "gringos" (Mexicans also use this word with a similar origin, but with a different meaning).

[@Pollicina_db]

Isn’t gringos also a slured way to say “white man in spanish”? (Btw I know your language is portugese)

[@jotascript03]

@@Pollicina_db Well, I think in Spanish only Anglo people (from the US/UK) specifically are called "gringos". A Mexican of German origin, for example, will not be called a "gringo" by mexican mestizos. And I read somewhere that the word "gringo" in Spanish also originates from gypsies, but in Mexico it began to be used to designate Anglo-Americans due to the constant cattle thefts carried out by them (which gypsies were already famous for committing), so they were called the same slur as the gypsies. Idk if it's true btw. Here in Brazil there is no slur for "white" people. In my region specifically, blonde people with light eyes are traditionally called "Galegos" (galicians), but it is not offensive or derogatory.

[@bukhariapdelahi7072]

isnt brazil black country?? in Africa people know brazil as black country

[@jotascript03]

@@bukhariapdelahi7072 No, Brazil's population is virtually half white and half mixed race (black+European, European+native, black+native, etc). Black people make up close to 10% of the population. I myself am Brazilian and my skin is pale. In fact, there are more white people living in Brazil than in Germany, France, UK or any European country other than Russia.

[@ricardopedauga]

​@@Pollicina_dbNah, gringo isn't a Slur, it's just a way to refer to Americans bc "'estadounidense'" is a mouthful and you're not going to ever catch a self-respecting Latino calling them "Americanos" because we're all from America the continent, so gringo it is

[@revolter7094]

Unironically I think this is one of the most underrated and interesting stories of a people group.

[@Hajde_budalla]

And a rather sensitive and sympathetic portrayal.

[@dozenbuzzard2662]

Brother they were slaves lol​@@Hajde_budalla

[@Samsung-1.9Cu.Ft.Microwave]

@@dozenbuzzard2662 so what? everybody was a slave at some point in history, Christian whites were slaves to ottomans.

[@vlcr9259]

@@dozenbuzzard2662 as they should be

[@constantinethecataphract5949]

Another example of why mass immigration is wrong. They should have been deported to India a long time ago.

[@mr.pearly7478]

I'm British, and I met this British gypsy girl online. She thought she was distantly Romanian and Egyptian but, in reality, had no clue. I found it interesting as I felt I knew her heritage better than her. She was taken out of her school by her family and wasn't allowed back, agaisnt her wishes was basically locked in her own home. Despite being 18, only had up to 11 year old education. Its because of this that in general the gypsy community gets the worst results in school, two times worse than any other ethnic group, with girls affected especially.

[@Embrod]

Mostly they are unemployed, and rely on social services

[@yankochoynev652]

Yeah it's super sad, even infuriating. There are good schools with majority gypsies here in Bulgaria, there are bright intelligent gypsies, but after 8th grade the boys start working, the girls get married and they have no opportunity to integrade with larger society.

[@Cesko_Plny_Fialovejch_Zmrdu]

No it's because they're degenerated

[@crypticcorgi8280]

A lot of gypsies will keep their kids in school to learn basic math and reading. But deal with a lot of food insecurities and housing problems. So they feel like they need "all hands on deck" just to survive. But this is sentiment shared a lot. When a lot of gypsies live normally in society like everyone else. Like me, a gypsie.

[@nenadpopov3601]

Gypsies in UK are a lot different then in rest of the EU.

[@alexandre007opa]

We have an old phrase in my country it roughly translates to "keep one eye on the donkey and the other one on the gipsy"

[@wheresbellaj2386]

What country?

[@alexandre007opa]

@@wheresbellaj2386 Poortugal

[@sa_med]

Lmao I'm dead😂

[@Ivobe2]

For a reason

[@_daleko]

UM OLHO NO BURRO OUTRO NO CIGANO 🗣️🗣️🗣️🔥🔥🔥

[@malistana8156]

Dracula used Gypsies on the front lines so they were slaughtered by the Ottomans thinking it will be a easy victory and then they will be ambushed by the the real soldiers.

[@dova238]

I wonder if the ottomans were confused seeing darker skinned soldiers than their selves (Turks) supposedly fighting Christian crusaders 😂

[@juannaym8488]

@@dova238 the turks understood Europe quite well. I think they knew of gypsies

[@kdrhn9601]

@@dova238turks are white skinned bro

[@capncake8837]

@@kdrhn9601 Not all are. A lot are darker like other Mediterranean peoples.

[@juannaym8488]

@@dova238 I don't think you'd see that too well on the battlefield

[@SavantApostle]

My mom used to threaten to sell us to the Gypsies. I thought it would be pretty cool like being in the circus.

[@theylive8256]

LMAO 😂

[@cheguevara5560]

Funny you said that .I read a book written by Roma woman and they used to say same thing to they kids ... If you don't behave white gadjo will take you !

[@gerrybailey447]

They'd come back and steal the money they paid for you.

[@neinzukorruption9321]

they did it all. and thinking of their situation of life, it is naturally. If you don´t breed enough children you have to steal one or you have to buy one. and if you have a sick child you have to let in where you think it is looked after (and guess what we had such a child in our village, was left by zigeuners decades ago.)

[@alexeyeliseev6322]

​@@cheguevara5560do you still remember name of the book?

[@dimitrispapadopoulos-kx6hl]

It's all fun and games until they steal the 20kV transformer

[@9876karthi]

A$$oole did you even watch the video?

[@pepita2437]

@@9876karthi HAve you ever lived in the Balkans? XD

[@9876karthi]

@@pepita2437 If I say...have you ever lived in US , Asia or Africa to understand how white people abused natives? do think this statement make any sense?

[@AmericaIsACountry]

​@@pepita2437 emphasis on "lived", you can't go 20 miles without stepping on a landmine