The History Of The Hardest Nine Circles Level

[@The----------]

As a victor of Hyper Paracosm, the level is absolutely not balanced lol, i personally found 27-37 to be by far the hardest part, and passing it would give me a chance at beating the level. At 27-37 alone, i have 276 deaths, and it also was the reason i dropped it a few months before i beat it. A bit of time before i beat it, I was at a point where 37-100 was a run i could do pretty consistently and then i would still not be able to progress much because of that chokepoint. But it could also be that i had a mind block because i dropped the level earlier because of that part, regardless, i think if you'd ask more HP victors they would also agree that its not very balanced. Other than that, good video

[@NothingIsScary]

I think when I said it was balanced. I meant it was balanced in comparison to SW

[@The----------]

@@NothingIsScary I mean, kinda? i beat SW and while there are more chokepoints scattered around the level, i personally found most of them to be way more consistent and skill based (apart from 48% click, thats like a coinflip whether i would pass it or not)

[@suni420]

@@NothingIsScary sonic wave is more balanced than hyper paracosm imo, since the ball, 1st wave, second wave and last wave in sw are all pretty hard parts (even tho they can be carried by just a few clicks). Meanwhile hyper paracosm is mostly free except a few seconds of gameplay

[@DarthSkril]

As a fellow victor of hyper paracosm, I agree that it is unbalanced, but the level isn't hard past the stupid spam at 31%. I would say 27-32 is the hardest part of the level by far.

[@DarthSkril]

@@NothingIsScary Not whatsoever. Sonic wave is a very well ballanced level with all waves being difficult. The first wave is just harder than the 2nd and 3rd. This doesn't make it unballanced.

[@pastel_pink]

I remember when nc first came out, everyone said “epilepsy overload!!!!” And now it’s hardly even distracting.

[@deleted-something]

Is kinda crazy how nc levels aren’t even close to today’s levels of epilepsy, also an nc before nc is funny lol

[@overclover67]

that's because colour triggers use up a crap ton of objects and the object limit at the time was only 15k

[@billy1330]

I AM NINE BEANS

[@Xanderanium]

oh thank goodness i have a video to watch with my dinner

[@Treed4y]

was bro watching his dinner💀

[@Xanderanium]

@Treed4y yes

[@StardustSB]

idk what to comment, this was just a really good video

[@NothingIsScary]

Holy shit thank you so much

[@MinerBruh]

as a poltergeist victor, literally the first time i passed these 4 clicks i went ahead and died on 88%. These clicks, along some clicks at the start of the wave are DIABOLICAL

[@rsoara.roseorsmth]

SAME, but i died at 64...

[@Bigmac_huh]

The middle part is like medium demon though

[@UNKNOWNxMorganLordia]

I will just sit tight and wait for Femboy Circles to be verified.

[@inconspicuousrobot2685]

Hehe, tight

[@timeblade]

Sit on what exactly? 🤨

[@inconspicuousrobot2685]

@@timeblade a femboy presumably, but you didn’t need to tell me twise

[@request52945]

I like em tight

[@inconspicuousrobot2685]

@@request52945 a man of good taste

[@fehizorosaclier1629]

it may be weird but due to when I joined the community, I still mainly associate artic lights with being a former hardest circles level

[@DIPHENHYDRAMINEMAN]

I remember back when that was top 15, way back in the day. Good times

[@EnbyAroace_Vincent]

Sometimes I still feel that Sonic Wave is the hardest level, Xd.

[@nathanw9770]

Bruh sometimes I still think Crimson Clutter is up there with the hardest nc levels. I've been playing this game for too long 💀

[@CatkinsonGD]

Let's also mention that Aquamarine is also the current hardest unrated level lol. wonderful video

[@extazy9944]

its not verified legit he used cbf

[@timeblade]

@@extazy9944Alright buddy.

[@TheDoctorGD]

​@@extazy9944 🤓

[@idontevenknow3457-z9i]

​@@extazy9944oh brother here we go with this shit

[@extazy9944]

@@idontevenknow3457-z9i its not legit if its not allowed by robtop

[@Psykoticgmd]

14:48 Arctic lights, even now as a victor of it, is still extremely hard. it is not long, only about 50 seconds, but a lot of difficulty is packed into that

[@Arcticgdnmore]

Who are you trying to fool with those clearly botted click sounds and fake botted gameplay? lmao you never legitimately beat arctic lights...

[@independentskarab7775]

@@Arcticgdnmore LOL & the cheat indicator is red

[@Arcticgdnmore]

@@independentskarab7775 lol are you blind there is no cheat indicator

[@independentskarab7775]

@@Arcticgdnmore there's a cheat indicator that shows on the top left portion of the level complete thing, so no, i'm not blind. i'm literally helping your point 😭😭

[@Arcticgdnmore]

@@independentskarab7775 you must be kidding. Check psychotic's arctic lights completion. There is no cheat indicator anywhere. Actually, when he beats the lvl on the endscreen there are two dots THAT SHOW RED BRO IT MEANS CHEAT INDICATOR FLAGGED THE COMPLETION Here are some more reasons why this 12 y/o cheated all his hard comp: 1. No real reaction 2. Fake click sounds 3. Bandicam rec lol 4. Red cheat indicator 5. No att count shown 6. First vid is arctic lights 100% (not sus right?) 7. No context, description empty, no att count 8. No raw footage on top 150 nor on the top 60 comp 9. Not pointercrate approved Still think he is legit? You must be delusional lmao

[@bmrabbit]

As a fun fact: on Zobros channel there is a completion of a demon called Voyager II made by Havok that has similiar slope structures to the NC drop and it was uploaded two weeks before he released NC. Zobros in the description described how he liked the level so it couldve been an inspiration for the wave part's design.

[@landronsc]

Your videos are always really niche and its always the perfect kind of niche. I love these videos dude.

[@Xmodg4m3]

Finally someone words this out! I love digging into levels and trends history and this channel sastifies that really well

[@SenaVL]

Very interesting video man! As a victor of Sonic Wave, for me the hardest part was the first wave and DEFINETLY the infamous 49% click and release after the headbutting part. That gap is so much tighter and more precise than all the others and lead to a lot of deaths, especially with nerves after passing the spam section. The saw blade part you mentioned twords the end of the level was actually one of the easier parts since it just became muscle memory. In terms of Crimson Clutter, I personally think the only reason it's so hard is because of the mirror portal. If you removed the mirror portal I feel like the level becomes a medium or hard demon, especially considering it's length. Great video, keep up the great work man!

[@_dashyy]

yes that is the second hardest part for me, the hardest being the ball!! i can't for the life of me pass it and i would just be playing from the start for hours and only make it to the wave 1-2 times an hour. for me the ball is similar in difficulty to passing the last 2 waves in one go. i have like 30k attempts but i constantly quit and pick the level up so infrequently that i never get any traction and end up quitting it again because i just hate playing the pre-drop. i honestly find the wave fun too which really sucks. i've done 29-100 multiple times and my best is like 54%.

[@GD_Sayori]

I haven't completed any Nine Circles level yet, but this video entertained me a LOT

[@Wespdx]

i’ve gotten really unhappy with the current state of NC, i feel like people have lost touch with what made nine circles special. the loss of epileptic wave will always hurt

[@NothingIsScary]

Agreed

[@nathanw9770]

Cool video! I feel like Mujigae by YGYoshi should've got a mention as well because it was verified around the same time as Sonic Wave (if I remember correctly) but because it didn’t receive a rate until 2.1 it went unnoticed for a long time and Mujigae never became known as a top 1 circles level. It was rumored to be about as difficult or harder than Bloodbath at the time. It was also at the time one of two hard nine circles demons to use no specific colour theme, the other being Future Circles by Keias.

[@IconicGD]

Sick video. Love how it feels like a stormfly video

[@sonicgd9416]

Im glad I was able to provide a copy of old down bass to you!!!!

[@ikatsumii]

32:20 not the French flag in the top right corner💀💀

[@THEL05]

🇫🇷🇫🇷🇫🇷

[@Waltty_]

you should have probably talked about someone getting 76 on unnerfed sakupen circles

[@BuGuSer777]

SOMEONE? EMP IS THE GOAAAAAT. also skylar put over a million attempts into it and got 67% 7 times

[@Waltty_]

@@BuGuSer777 skylar has 67%x18

[@BuGuSer777]

@@Waltty_ oh... wait i only noticed know that ur waltty lol

[@themisterseal]

This list could change soon If Emp verifies Original Sakupen Circles

[@Haxx0rZ-]

Or Paperguy or Skylar

[@adrian.play.geomdash_badly]

​@@Haxx0rZ- yeah but skylar is barely playing gd anymore, let alone uskc paperguy is focusing more on spam challenges, his uskc progress is very small

[@OptexPsykotic]

It is verified, just with pause buffering by diamond

[@adrian.play.geomdash_badly]

@@OptexPsykotic pause buffering is illegitimate

[@UNKNOWNxMorganLordia]

@@adrian.play.geomdash_badlyMy girl Paqoe did it and how is it not legitimate? If anything it's the most legitimate "hack" ever. Diamonds was just pausing the game.

[@starezy]

This style of video is very insightful and interesting! I also didn't know that Tidal Wave is not a NC level

[@zInslanex]

Arctic Lights is indeed a free list points farm

[@uskcuskcuskcuskcuskcuskcuskc]

Prepare for uskc real real… Btw for exens limit 66 p is way, WAY harder too which is why it’s harder than sakupen circles. The gaps are filled in with these inward rotated spikes which you have to do these straight doubles rather than the usual upward doubles like in sakupen circles.

[@ExtremeDemons3]

If you really think about it, Drug Style is the first instance of an ultra circles level.

[@charr420]

aquamarine being verified is so insane no idea how that even happened

[@apero_]

i'm not sure if anyone mentioned in the comments, but dr joe verified a superbuffed version of hyper paracosm called "challenge dorami" a month before sonic wave infinity was verified, that he considers harder than arctic lights and aquatic auroras other than that minor correction, really well made video

[@idontevenknow3457-z9i]

you have been releasing bangers lately. nice video

[@plutoniangamer8888]

Great video!

[@AnotherSwissYoutubeUser]

Fun Fact about Fairydust: It was quite literally copied from Nine Circles because the creator didn't know how to build the wave effect pattern.

[@waffleenjoyer-re3pg]

As a victor of crimson clutter i can confirm that it is very short but wow, the raw gameplay is harder than acu and ICDX, and as a victor of sonic wave i can confirm that it is horrific and i dont recommend it to anyone, it is horrifically unbalanced and the ending is brutal, i died to the second last click on the last mini wave, dont play this level unless you want to go insane

[@solaraloe]

Down Bass is my favorite nc level of all time & my current hardest nc level, so it was pretty interesting hearing about the history behind it. Wasn't aware it even had any history behind it, let alone having a weird series of updates & being a nc top 1 at one point.

[@_dashyy]

i'm so bad at that level i think it's arguably harder than sonic wave for me. sonic wave is only carried by the length and the ball but the wave in down bass is just so much more difficult.

[@solaraloe]

​@@_dashyy I can see it, if you have a lot of raw wave skill but are bad at high cps gameplay & controlled spam For me it's nowhere near as hard as SW due to a combination of SW being the opposite of my skillset (endurance + second half heavy) & DB fitting it really well. Probably gonna be a long time before I can even touch that level

[@kingklasherz4834]

i cant wait to watch this when i get home

[@activels9099]

Hi

[@gobbydob]

Hi

[@masterblockplayz]

hi king

[@johnnythegooler]

Hi

[@polyqueseraine]

You would prolly agree with most of this guys dogshit takes on the harder levels

[@waterysoda]

For me, i always saw arctic lights as the old top 1 for nc levels because at one point it was one of the hardest demons in the demonlist, it was sonic wave -> hyper paracosm -> arctic lights

[@llamason7044]

This video inspired me to try astronaut 13 and I can now say that is like my second favorite level I have ever beaten, hell yes :D

[@llamason7044]

Also kind of surprised you found the duel so hard, I found it extremely easy and consistent.

[@crim-n19]

great video I really enjoyed watching it

[@zFunnyBoy_]

just 66p alone would definitely not be harder than swi what

[@GPR_GD]

yeah he was not cooking with that 😭

[@SpectreNoodle]

lmfao

[@lappwv]

hyper paracosm is also not fucking balanced lmao

[@Prometheus_Alt]

It is interesting that 66p is so hard that when Pointercrate updated their list %s to 75% of the level's difficulty, skc raised its list percentage from 66 to 69. That's it. Also I feel like 37-51 doesn't get much attention but it's also very hard

[@Willsion]

potentially also you forgot classical, the cyan one and also it could be argued that catastrophic (old version) is harder than crimson clutter

[@Willsion]

classical after poltergeist btw

[@nytro2693]

Shout outs to my boi Tidal Wave for being an honorary top 1 nine cicles level 🗣️🗣️

[@UNKNOWNxMorganLordia]

😑

[@_dashyy]

wait i'm confused why wasn't it in the video?

[@UNKNOWNxMorganLordia]

@@_dashyy You have to joking; Tidal Wave is NOT a Nine Circles level

[@_dashyy]

@@UNKNOWNxMorganLordia why not? because there was no flashy background? there are plenty of nine circles levels without a flashy background. it still has the same style of wave gameplay.

[@drderpamine2498]

Very good video!!!

[@jayayahgmd]

great video!

[@Cninder]

Does arctic lights really not feel like a top 1?? I remember it as one more clearly than anything else on here that might be cause it was the hardest when I started but it still surprises me

[@Calo946]

As a sw victor, I can say that the hardest part is the ball and then the 49% click

[@brachiozaur6745]

Small thing - Sunix verified SonicBath as the hardest verified level back in May 2017 that would overtake Sonic Wave as the top 1 before being dethroned by Hyper Paracosm (though if you don't want to count that you can go Sonic Wave -> InvisiWave -> possibly Sonic Wave Mefewe version that Sunix had verified). You could also count Demotivation Dance as a top 1, as it was verified after Sakupen Circles and both Cursed and Trick (who are the only victors of it) both agree it's harder. It would be dethroned by Aquamarine most likely. Still, very fun watch!

[@eternadash]

I Didn't Even Know Aquamarine Got Verified Recently, That's Neat

[@PepsiForReal]

As a victor of Arctic Lights it was cool to lear about its history

[@gdriskyplane3389]

Comparing poltergeist to the realistic is wild💀

[@xxyellow_flashxx8982]

The hallucination deserved better

[@Fearless13468]

When it comes to Jawbreaker, I think it's wave is harder than Nine Circles. It's longer, often tighter, has higher cps, and gravity switching. That being said, I still think Nine Circles is harder overall as a level, even if only slightly. The timings outside of the wave are harder in Nine Circles than in Jawbreaker. Jawbreakers wave may be harder, but you also get to it more frequently.

[@bloodreptil]

I dont agree. I find jawbreakers wave to be much easier. When I beat jawbreaker as my new hardest I tried nince circles and gave up on it because of how hard the wave was for me. And this was all on 60fps. I beat nine circles as my new hardest on 240fps and it still took longer than jawbreaker.

[@Fearless13468]

@@bloodreptil Everyone has different skills. I only got to Nine Circles wave 30ish times before I beat the level. I got to Jawbreakers wave hundreds of times. I was just speaking from my personal experience.

[@_dashyy]

nine circles took me 6500 attempts and was my first hard demon (tbf a few of these attempts were from i was really bad at the game) and i did jawbreaker shortly after which only took me 1000. i found jawbreaker significantly easier. especially the wave.

[@Fearless13468]

@@_dashyy Jawbreaker took me 6 years and 3000 attempts. I did Nine Circles shortly after in 2 weeks and 1700 attempts. Everyone has their own skill issues. Jawbreaker just had all of mine at the time.

[@Sebwwwwwwwww]

The hardest part of sonic wave is the beginning of the first wave btw

[@NothingIsScary]

I disagree lol

[@Sebwwwwwwwww]

@@NothingIsScary very hard to disagree when you haven't beaten it, not trying to be rude but

[@ccr_noctu]

Just a heads up, the gddl isn’t super useful for comparing extreme demons. It’s good for easy-insane demons, but for extremes a much better resource is the NLW spreadsheet.

[@NothingIsScary]

Yeah true

[@bloodreptil]

Jawbreaker is more of a "flow" wave level, so it looks harder and maybe feels that way at the start, but when you learn it its very simple and easy. It was my first hard demon (and my last hardest on 60fps), so naturally I went to check out nine circles. I gave up on it after 1 practice run lol, it was way too hard for me at the time. I beat it as my new hardest (I think?) once I switched to 240fps. Took longer than jawbreaker. Also, ik that swi has a bunch of problems because of the deco but if we just take the raw deco it is really good.

[@lemniscate.526]

There are definitely harder unrated levels between old down bass and Sakupen Circles but I doubt anything harder than Sakupen Circles that was not mentioned in this video, at least that have been completed.

[@zHexya]

the hardest sonic wave part is definitely the first wave

[@genethemineman]

Thank you so much if not for this video I never would've had the urge to play Crimson Clutter with not much experience with the level other than 34% 2 years ago, had the urge to play it, got a good run, locked in for 30 mins and beat it??? if not for you i would wake up the next day having not beaten crimson clutter

[@NothingIsScary]

holy shit thats really cool. glad I could inspire you to beat the level!

[@genethemineman]

@@NothingIsScary Yeah mate thank you I guess thats the power of the sudden urges

[@theactualmydoorfellintoperson]

17:23 just want to note I think he also did it on mobile which still blows my mind

[@NothingIsScary]

I don’t think so. The verification has a bandicam overlay

[@MatrixTetrix]

I feel like azure flare should have been mentioned because of how funny the entire situation is

[@THEL05]

Excellent !

[@suni420]

calling crimson clutter close to an extreme in difficulty and down bass harder than bloodbath is kinda crazy ngl

[@Zoh_my_goodness]

I honestly fpund the beggining wave of poltergeist only half the difficulty, ive done it 6 times in a row

[@BonsaiMan24]

The 8 bit remix of sonic blaster really reminds me of AVGN for some reason. Like I can just image him raging will it plays lmao

[@Corrupted_computeR]

I mean there's SonicBath by lSunix (it was actually a top 1 if it was good enough to be rated) It's Sonic Wave but after Sonic wave is Crack's part in bloodbath and ends at AsonicMen's part. The most interesting part is that the sonic wave parts are redish instead of blue.

[@cinderstar6634]

i beat jawbreaker as my first hard demon and nine circles as my 3rd and i found that jawbreaker had harder to learn but overall easier gameplay in the wave than nc, and combined with the free predrop and lack of gameplay after the wave jawbreaker is definitely easier than nc imo

[@zachplayz3972]

I personally think that nine circles is easier than jawbreaker. In jawbreaker theres genuinely really disorienting bugs that may just outright kill you. This is just me, might be my crazy nine circles bias, but i genuinely dislike jawbreaker. Might seem a bit harsh but i was genuinely so happy to get it done with

[@lemniscate.526]

im a little sad that The Hallucination lost its chance to be a top 1 circles level

[@ecksdeexd05]

In my opinion Tidal Wave is a Nine Circles level, just slightly more visible. "Dual theme" or whatever OniLink said is just an excuse to not classify it as Top 1 NC Slop.

[@PaperGuy_]

As a spam player that first level gave me intense flashbacks

[@Dabadabadooda]

Ah, I remember the good ol' days when Arctic Lights was in the top 20. Good times...

[@kocgmd]

The hallucination had to be atleast mentioned

[@BBMarchive]

I don’t agree about your statement on nine circles being an amazing entry to hard demon difficulty. It’s unbalanced as shit, and the wave gets VERY annoying very quickly. It is extremely boring to do runs from the wave to 100, but if you just dont do them then the wave will be even more incosistent. Now, I never beat this as a new hardest, as I had already completed an insane demon before I beat nine circles, but even then this level was pure disease for me. What I recommend people to do is to go to the Geometry Dash Demon Ladder, filter tier 11 levels (those are entry hard demons) and search a level you like. Nine circles is definitely not worth it in my opinion.

[@Haxx0rZ-]

31:49 STRAIGHT PRIDE SPOTTED

[@Willsion]

you forgot Classic and Silhouette (before poltergeist and after astronaut 13)

[@NothingIsScary]

Those aren’t harder than astronaut 13

[@Willsion]

@@NothingIsScary how, classic is an insane astro is hard, and silhouette also used to be insane

[@Willsion]

@@NothingIsScary also just checked the gd demon ladder classic is above astonaut but yeah not silhouette

[@cocoqtpi]

i actually like hyper paracosm idk why

[@TheDoctorGD]

Song = 😎

[@penguino1235]

I also count Tidal Wave in my head as a nc level, even if the creator and people say that it isn't, is just a matter of having eyes and seeing that it is a wave focused level woth a predrop and the nine circles nowadays neither have epileptic effects

[@ReallyRealOmega]

found this account just now, bro you have my same exact ship, cube AND the colours😭

[@Lolz_Lolz222]

If impossible circles levels were included this would prob be even longer

[@DylanADV]

I find jawbreaker significantly easier than nine circles because the flow feels better and the non wave parts are easier than nc. I’ve been close to beating jawbreaker on 1.5x speed and I also beat it on my neighbours very cracked iPad

[@lemniscate.526]

Aquamirine would probably be top 5 if it got rated

[@LDGRXR]

the verifier of aquamarine said its like top 5 however i believe it could be on a par with tidal wave

[@waffleenjoyer-re3pg]

GDDP used to list is as azurite, the only beaten azurite level is tidal wave, but when aquamarine was verified it was taken off azurite

[@masonplayzz93]

Ive heard that tidal wave can be considered a circles level, and when you think about it I guess it could be, i consider it a Circles level, but I don't think it matters too much tbh

[@TheTimski5000]

Sonic wave is actually a remake of poltergeist

[@Corrupted_computeR]

Wait really?

[@NothingIsScary]

I have heard that before

[@Gemzzi]

I beat nine circles, fairydust and jawbreaker in that order back in early 2.0 i think. Nine circles at the time was a hardest for me taking me around 3.3k attempts. A month after i beat that i started fairydust as a new hardest again and that ended up taking me almost 7k attempts. Right after beating fairydust i beat jawbreaker the next day in around 700 attempts. This is all to say that i found jawbreaker far easier than the other two which might be because i had gotten alot better at wave. But also i don’t really think that was the case since both the other levels still felt really difficult. For me i find jawbreaker to be around easy-ish medium demon. Edit: Also really cool i learnt something new. I never knew of the two levels you mentioned before nc itself. Really cool stuff and good video.

[@GamerCatGD]

24:40 arctic lights is out of the extended list bro, like how is it out!?

[@eldanex]

seing Astronaut 13 higher than Fairydust was a surprise for me, specially considering that Astronaut 13 was my first ever hard demon

[@bambusll3155]

Silent Silhouette!!😅

[@aarondaniels8850]

I love NC Levels so much

[@dademonator1]

While the 70% saw gaps are hard, they don't carry the level and get consistent. I am pretty sure the hardest part of the level is the 40-50 section with the consistency spam and the frame perfect wave click. I have beaten the level myself and never really had an issue with 70.

[@9092idkcsiowoksi]

imo the poltergeist saws aren't that bad, they got very consistent and i died there maybe 30-50 times from the ~900 attempts i took to beat it

[@kevinmartinibarra589]

And Planet Circles and Golden Paracosm? Also Catastrophic was a main list demon on the beginning of the demonlist so idk why wasn't mentioned

[@melissarofer2309]

Does tidal wave count as a circles level?

[@NothingIsScary]

No

[@B0BHD]

18:55 im friends with "the real sneaky" he haciked a lot of stuff back then, also the buffdate for down bass 7, thats why it got reverted lol. goes my itzmika or sum now

[@Joopiteropy]

Me waiting for centipede to get rated:

[@ShurikenGD]

This is very subjective and you do seem to actually have done a lot of research, but it shocked me how your description of Sonic Wave was literally the opposite of my experience. Sonic Wave is one of the most first half heavy levels I’ve beaten. The saws that you talked about in the second wave got VERY consistent for me, so there’s no way that would be the hardest part in my opinion. Even if we consider that not getting consistent, everyone I have talked to including me has claimed that 49% (or 48% now in 2.2) is the hardest part, and I don’t even think it’s close. The whole level for me was just a ”passing the first wave simulator”. I only passed the click at 49% 18 times and still considered myself VERY ”unlucky” with the level, because I died so much to the second half. The predrop IS very boring, but I didn’t find it that hard honestly. The first wave was the hardest part, followed by the second wave and the predrop. Of course I understand that different people have different opinions, but I still wanted to give my take on it :)

[@EvandbrownYT]

REAL!

[@gamormichael3416]

while watching this got 14% on sonic wave!

[@mahfoozhassanrao1055]

3:22 garbanzo reference?

[@HampterWeilder]

I think it’s funny how arctic lights was dethroned by it’s sequel

[@shrekiscool4743]

Currently jumping to Poltergeist from Deadlocked, so far it feels a LOT easier than Nine Circles - idk if that's just my weird ass skillset but I played Poltergeist for like 3 hours total and nearly have the level in 3 runs whereas I've put over a thousand attempts playing NC from the drop and can't even get halfway through the wave. Also I can tell the balancing is really bad lol, the first wave is literally harder than the rest of the level combined. I'm probably just weird though. Edit: forgot to mention that 1. I play on 60fps and 2. I play a lot of wave challenges

[@LoganSutton-w6n]

honestly I feel like old down bass is mid-easy insane demon difficulty and the version on the servers is harder than bloodbath. The first dual in down bass is ridiculous with the spike gaps at 3x speed compared some parts of the level.

[@zen0x50]

epic video

[@RTwoSix]

I thought the hallucination was verified before sakupen circles? It’s higher than SWI on pointercrate at the moment

[@NothingIsScary]

Nope