The History of the Vorlons (Babylon 5)

[@Teardehawkee]

It is always great to learn something new about a show I'd watched religiously.

[@OmegaOrdained]

I learn something new every time I do a Babylon 5 binge-watch!😎👍

[@helpfulsysops3593]

Amazing Babylon 5 died off so completely, well - except for the Babylon Bee...

[@malachiXX]

Kosh was considerably older than 1000 years. If you remember Sheridan's first meeting with Lorien he said "Did you know you have a Vorlon inside you? Well a piece of one anyways...." Sheridan responds "Kosh?" Lorien answers "Is that it's name. I think I met it once; a long time ago." Kosh is often mentioned as being thought of as insane by his own people for having no problem spending extended time around humans and other younger races. And the $64000 question is.... Ever wonder what might have made Kosh that way? Possbily his meeting with Lorien?

[@rahulshah1408]

Oh that’s good.

[@malachiXX]

@@rahulshah1408 Thank you. No one ever considers two things; what is 'insane' by Vorlon standards and what could possibly shake the stability of a being that is millions of years old? How about not just meeting one of your ancient deities, but meeting THE ANCIENT DIETY.

[@johntaylor4447]

😅😮f4tf//f4⁹

[@doomguy9049]

Crazy to think J. Michael Strazynski is gonna make another Babylon 5 series after all this time, I hope it's as good as the original.

[@jaysdood]

From my point of view, Bab 5 is the best sci fi series ever made. The massive story arcs were incredible.

[@Demortixx]

It won’t be

[@paulsarnik8506]

Animated Movie only. It was OK. 🤓😎✌🏻

[@stevenmorton2059]

A couple of inaccuracies: While the Shadows did start attacking openly after a time, they didn't employ their Deathclouds until the Vorlons unleashed their Planet Killers. Also, while the Shadows believed that they were going to crush the Vorlons and their allies at Corianna-6, the encounter was orchestrated by Sheridan in order to force the Vorlons and Shadows into a direct confrontation, giving Sheridan the chance to open a dialogue with both of them using Lorien as a mediator.

[@pcuimac]

It was a good move by JMS to show that the "army of the light" was a propaganda lie by the Vorlons. There was no good vs evil scheme here. Both sides, Vorlons & Shadows had become stuck in their ways and an evil to the younger races. They had them fight about whos ideology is right. In the end it would have wiped out everyone in the Galaxy, maybe even Shadows and Vorlons.

[@stevenmorton2059]

@@pcuimac Despite their bickering and the near disaster that resulted, the Vorlons and Shadows actually succeeded in achieving their original goal. The younger races gained the wherewithal to realize what was happening and to stand on their own. That and some gentle prodding by Lorien sent the message that their job was finished and it was time to go.

[@dermagnus8482]

@David Lutz No way. It is sacred and should be untouched. They have ruined almost all IPs.

[@Flynbrd68]

@David Lutz Gee whiz! LOL :-)

[@dalriada842]

@David Lutz There's probably a cooperative of feminist screenwriters working on that proposal right now.

[@spencersholden]

I love it when Kosh kills Deathwalker after the counsel had finally agreed on something. Because “You are not ready for immortality.”

[@OmegaOrdained]

I know, they spent the whole episode fighting and losing some credibility, just to have Kosh shot her dead. I have to say that was the most unpredictable/funny moment in B5.😎👍

[@kenwaid8239]

And Kosh was absolutely right. mentally we were not ready for immortality, we were not evolved enough plus that immortality came of the cost of two lives for every one that would become immortal. he knew that the culling and chaos that would be caused by this, would lead to an ultimate shadow victory. something he could not allow.

[@michaelhviper]

I was thinking of that very moment. Yes, they weren't ready for immortality because they are too young and the price they would have to pay: taking lives to achieve it. Really gives you a parent feel to it.

[@MadKlown]

I would rather the line have been: You are too young for immortality.

[@BrendonLee]

I remember fondly this storyline and the reveal. It set the bar really high for my expectations of storytelling in science fiction. The only thing that came close in recent memory is The Expanse. To me Babylon 5 is kinda like the opposite of cosmic horror. Whereas Lovecraft makes us cower in terror of how puny we are in the face of celestial beings, Babylon 5´s greater races inspires us to explore and evolve into better versions of ourself.

[@robwalsh9843]

Also, in cosmic horror advanced and ancient beings are usually indifferent to the existence of mortals. The Shadows and the Vorlons have a vested interest in the younger races. They view them as their kids in a weird way.

[@wilmagregg3131]

maybe call it the Noble cosmos genre instead of it being hopeless in the face of the enourmous universe it promotes the idea hopefully that the vastness of the universe means one can always improve always climb higher always keep going even if one may fall another may rise kind of thing

[@moguldamongrel3054]

Pfft we eat calamari. Space Squidward ain't got ship on us. The Japanese would make Cthulhu cower in fear. Comere sushi!

[@darylwhite7506]

@@robwalsh9843 frg

[@davidkugel]

The Vorlons are my favorite non-humanoid species in science fiction. It seems that many sci-fi books, films, and TV series posit that almost all sentient species in the galaxy are humanoids. I also like Species 8472 from Star Trek Voyager. They were non-humanoid too.

[@modisp]

For TV it was because makeup was hard and expensive. Even B5 has most aliens humanoid because there is actor behind.

[@minicle426]

What about out the Daleks?

[@davidkugel]

@@minicle426 I have never watched Dr. Who. I tried but could not get into it.

[@KyriaNunNuit]

@@minicle426 Those vindictive, crazy salt and pepper shakers? They're way too monochromely nasty to be interesting. At least the Shadows had a counterweight in the Vorlons. I've always found the Darleks plain stupid. Besides, Dr. Who has a creepy horror component in it with regards to its alien races and vision of the future that I don't much care for.

[@gemmel3197]

Species 8472 is humanoid, humanoid mean two arms, legs and a head.

[@pcmdenault5391]

Wow, the backstory of the VORLONS is a series in itself, would be a great continuation of Bab5

[@WillAdams-c3l]

Nicely done.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Thank you!😎👍

[@seniorbob2180]

"One mistake. One mistake out of so many. So many others." -Leta (Vorlon Programming 'Thirdspace')

[@robertflegal1735]

I found this information very interesting. Babylon was my favorite sci fi to watch. And yes the Vorlons were my favorite race!!!

[@carolbriscoe9337]

Thanks for this history. Very interesting knowing about them. Wish this info was available while I was watching the show

[@OmegaOrdained]

You are most welcome carol! Thank you for watching!😎👍

[@chanchorengo13]

WOW, WHAT A CHANNEL PAL, ITS AWSOME THANKS FOR THE SPANISH SUBTITLES

[@OmegaOrdained]

Hey you bet! You have to think that KZbin for the subtitles I didn't do nothing about that LOL have a great day!😎👍

[@ger5565]

Kosh "...at least 1000 years old... likely more than a million." That's quite a wide span.

[@OmegaOrdained]

You got that right!😎👍

[@RynRobitske]

They say Kosh was larger than a baby but smaller than a temple.

[@Pete...NoNotThatOne]

When Sheridan and Ivanova were looking at Kosh’s ship, and he said “They must be... a thousand years ahead of us!” My first thought was “maybe a couple of orders of magnitude off there.”

[@sergemarquis4996]

As per kzbin.info/www/bejne/f4CyoJyHrLiXa6s I would say Kosh is a single collective consciousness of a millions years history that "already happened". In that video we can clearly see that vorlon are just human of the future ending or at the end of the cycle of time then jumping in the past. The timelie of Babylone 5 is a fixed timeline with many time travel that somehow can't be change at all, this is great in the theory that everything already all happen at once and history is only replaying itself over and over. I believe we could also say Kosh is a single spirit sharing multiple "body suit" which contain only a fragment of the collective, as in the understanding that each eye have it's own angle of perception and timeline.

[@antonijaume8498]

Ger, I think that Kosh was some 14 million years old. Not sure where from that entered my memory.

[@doltsbane]

Does anyone remember the 1980 PBS production of "The Lathe of Heaven"? It features aliens from Aldebaran that are only ever seen in bulky, shell-like environment suits and they mostly speak in Zen koans. Sound familiar?

[@ttocseprot9010]

Oh yes! A fantastic storyline executed with minimal special effects, but still carried off well showing both George Orr's real world blending into his dream altered "new reality" existence. Then leaving the viewer to sort it out with just a few relatable supporting characters, helping us figure it all out. The malevolent alien transforming into a lunch cart vendor was great humor in such a bleak world. I still have the VHS tape I recorded way back then from PBS. I suspect it is not well know but is among my best sci-fi movie picks.

[@mikeschmidt4800]

This is one of a few well lived Sci fi shows that I've never seen. Should I binge it or better spend my time watching watching KZbin?

[@OmegaOrdained]

Oh Mike, take some time and watch Babylon 5 you won't be disappointed. There are 5 seasons and 5 movies. I would save the movies for last. They really don't add much to the original story. 😎👍

[@markymark13ification]

Its awesome

[@bhanusi24]

Overall B5 is the best scifi story telling out there. I love the little details that NO other show touches ... there is a section of B5 station meant only for non-air breathing species and when humans go there they have to wear a gas mask. Its little details like this that makes it stand out for me. Saying that imo first season is overall meh but the great seasons are 2 3 and 4 ... season 5 is mostly tying up loose ends.

[@doomguy9049]

B5 is a great series, I highly recommend watching it at least once

[@Blakblooded]

Absolutely, binge watch it. There are multiple references and call backs that make it even better. In its five seasons, it completely showed you the universe they exist in. And unlike other scifi, we ain't at the top of the food chain 😉.

[@jetthe3rd693]

Awesome show Omega!! Great job!! Thank you!! 👍👍

[@OmegaOrdained]

Thank you my friend!😎👍

[@Lord.Smith.the.first.]

Best depiction of alien life in media mysterious and enigmatic, stoic but fucking terrifying

[@OmegaOrdained]

Yes sir! 😎👍

[@pcuimac]

My favorite First Ones are the Kirishiak and their Lord Ships. The ships in the B5 series are the most beautiful and out of the ordinary ships ever created for a SciFi series.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Absolutely! Especially the omega class lol😎👍

[@pcuimac]

Omega Ordained Arrgh. The humans have the weakest vessels designs. At least they look like old steam trains. ;)

[@OmegaOrdained]

Hahaha I just like the name 😆😆😆

[@CircusOfFive]

totally agree about their ship design. The Shadows vessels scream in my mind every time I imagine them.

[@Flynbrd68]

I agree. I love sci-fi but nobody has been able to beat the awesome ships of Babylon 5! This show was cutting edge. Truly top of the list! ♡KOSH

[@jetthe3rd693]

Thoroughly enjoying everything your doing Omega!! Great work!! 👍👍

[@OmegaOrdained]

A h h h h h you are too kind! Thank you😎👍

[@brianpencall4882]

I believe the "true" name of the second Ambassador Kosh was named Ulkesh.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Yes sir that's right. I have a video about him coming out soon😎👍

[@OmegaOrdained]

Oops I'm sorry, I just checked its coming out late this year, not soon at all LOL 😎👍

[@keeshahdarkfurr8328]

Kosh states that he was one of the youngest Vorlons. Being only 1500 years old

[@ZakhadWOW]

but it had been a very long time since one of them died..

[@hannijazz3276]

He must be an infant by vorlon standards

[@lucasbachmann]

I think you may be misremembering a Zathrus quote and adding a zero

[@roepi]

That was the soul collector who realized his people didn't safe the souls of an entire race dying but instead imprisoned them as they were trancending into energy beings. He was young by the standards of his people and would have a hard time convincing others of the mistake. Kosh was old even by Vorlon standards. He was well over a million years old. He was an oddball in the sense that he actually gave a crap about the younger races and didn't see them as expendable (to a Vorlon, younger races have such short lives that it doesn't matter if they die 'old' or 'young' as it's all the same to them).

[@lucasbachmann]

@@roepi while I suspect Kosh is an elder Vorlon I don't think it's ever been established. I feel like chiming in that personally if I map B5 onto Lord of the Rings he ultimately was the Gandalf of the story. Anyone else's mileage may vary of course.

[@ИльяМищук-о5ц]

My Favorite Sci-Fi Opera

[@eledhwenmare2403]

I never understood Vorlon speech exactly. I assumed that when they spoke the translating device added all possible language or sounds often muted. But that’s just me.

[@PopDivTweet]

Yes...

[@mrichar9]

They spoke in fortune cookie riddles. Open for interpretation so that your interpretation answers your own question abstractly. This is so you grow as you find answers to your own questions.

[@willvgo2950]

You seek meaning? Yes Then listen to the music, not the song.

[@onyx081]

They resemble Jellyfish more than Octopuses

[@randystegemann9990]

It's hard to imagine the new Kosh giving younger races any technology that could be used against them. Yes, some Mibari devices were partly based on Vorlon technology, but new Kosh didn't seem very generous.

[@ksam7969]

Their story is similarly told in the 5th element movie. Order vs chaos is an ancient story, perhaps inherently in our origin stories.

[@kharnthebetrayer1575]

Here’s hope for the reboot!! 🙏

[@brentchaney6154]

This is a great synopsis, thank you ❤❤

[@OmegaOrdained]

Hey you bet brent! Thank you for watching!😎👍

[@MegaAndrich]

I am hotly anticipating the reboot of this groundbreaking Sci fi classic.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Me too😎👍

[@StumpkillerCP]

Earth's sun is too small to go nova. Let alone super nova. But I love this series. The best space soap opera ever. Well, maybe #3 after Firefly and Red Dwarf that were shorter lived.

[@cillianennis9921]

Red Dwarf I am pretty sure is still going. Its always on Dave.

[@mattwho81]

The cause of the Vorlon/Shadow war was never explained. At first they had rules of engagement and agreed to respect the others position, but then something changed and each side thought they were in the right. For my money the Vorlons began genetically tinkering with Younger Races to encourage their development in orderly fashion. The Shadows objected, they believed in free evolution and chaos. They skirmished and argued for centuries. But then the Vorlons decided to adjust younger races to perceive them as godly figures. That was too far, the Shadows took it as a declaration of war and sent their agents among the races the Vorlons had changed, subverting the Vorlons work and using their technology to foster chaos. The Vorlons were enraged by the flagrant breach of the rules and fought back. This way both races thought they were the one under attack, that the enemy fired first and convinced them that they were the righteous ones.

[@MrSmiley1964]

That's the thing about W.A.R. it's short for We Are Right. And whenever there's a war it's because both sides, or more, feel they are right. and won't back down from that position.

[@meoff7602]

To me it was like two super powers(nations like American verse Russia). Were attacking each other out right would end in both their Extinction. So instead they used less developed species to play chess with to prove who is better. Who is greater. Their ideology being the excuse.

[@meoff7602]

@@MrSmiley1964 LoL, just read your comment. Love it. Classic show.

[@lucasbachmann]

The Shadows were fighting wars for millions of years. They were uplifting first ones when they were child races - which is no doubt why even first ones hate the Shadows- they were all bullied by the Shadows.

[@spiritlake9]

I wander what Sheldon Cooper would say about this video?🤔

[@warrendesonia7924]

There is one muff in this video - You mentioned that all of the remaining ancients were deliberately lured into the battle of Coriana 6 - WRONG!!! Sheridan held the Ancients back as his reserve; It was only when the Vorlon planet killer showed up that they were called in.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Good catch, you're right!😎👍

[@lucasbachmann]

Lorien makes it clear his plan was to get the remaining first ones all together because it was time for them to all leave the Galaxy.

[@ethenallen1388]

I have trouble accepting the idea that the Vorlons had some form of collective consciousness, largely because I think that if they had, they would have realized that the humans of Babylon 5 had killed the Vorlon sent to replace Kosh, whose name, I understand, was Uklish. If nothing else, they would have noticed Uklish's absence from that collecting consciousness. I also thought that the Shadows did not start using their "Death Cloud" until after the Vorlons started using their planet killing ships.

[@OmegaOrdained]

That's a good point, however I think it was Ambassador Kosh who actually killed him. Though he was working with the humans. Maybe by doing so he showed the other Vorlons what they were doing was wrong.😎👍

[@ethenallen1388]

@@OmegaOrdained I tend to think that if the Vorlons had known what had happened to Uklish, they would have attacked Babylon 5. This war had been going on for thousands of years and the two sides were deeply entrenched in their views. If the Vorlons had known Kosh had helped take down Uklish they would have considered him a traitor, not as a sign that they were wrong.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Hey that's good, Uklish was just a plant. It did seem that the vorlons had had enough that point wanted to finish it once and for all and it brought out the big guns. 😎👍

[@suchiuomizu]

Ulkesh, was the second Vorlon Ambassador's name.

[@Flynbrd68]

I have been binge watching Babylon 5 all day! I'm on hour 18 now! LOL thankfully I am off work for 2 days! :-) Vorlons are one of my favorite sci-fi aliens. So mysterious in their armor and their ships are AWESOME!

[@OmegaOrdained]

That's awesome! The Vorlons are so cool!😎👍

[@Flynbrd68]

:-) I slept a few hours and am back on my many enjoyable hours of Babylon 5 binge watch!

[@OmegaOrdained]

Very nice 😎👍

[@nicholasdickens2801]

Great video. I always felt the Vorlons were more like jellyfish in their natural form.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Thank you, they did look like a jellyfish, or a squid Maybe , in their energy form.😎👍

[@lucasbachmann]

hydra zooplankton

[@davidstowers1964]

Sinclair. God works in mysterious ways. Garibaldi. Yeah, but he's a con man compared to the Vorlon.

[@seand.g423]

I'd be tempted to argue that the latter point would be the other way around...

[@ryry187]

Was that an Eve online background I just saw

[@synapticdragon2157]

The vorlon speech of cheeps and tones.. it's not a psychological mechanism.. its a physiological one

[@AliceTolson]

Interesting. Thanks for sharing.

[@Bronzedraken]

Lorien mentioned that he personaly meet Kosh once. So he Kosh must be much much older as 1000 years

[@jaredscott367]

i feel i missed that... what episode was it?

[@Bronzedraken]

@@jaredscott367 It was the episode after Sheriden jumped into the abyss at Z'ha'dum. Sheriden and Lorien meet first time. Lorien sayed to him "You have a part of a Vorlon in you" After Sheriden replied that it must be Kosh Lorien mentioned that he meet him once ago

[@roepi]

@@Bronzedraken It's probably analogous to Sheridan having met the Dalai Lama.

[@AngkorBonsaiberg]

yeah, "Who Are You" vs "What Do You Want" :ermm:

[@joestewart6027]

Core ee anna 6 is how it's pronounced.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Thank you!😎👍

[@everybuddy5924]

Think Kosh mentioned to John, when he got angry, that he was about 2 million years old. Nor do I think it was ever mentioned that Kosh was the oldest or one of the oldest Vorlons. It was also mentioned elsewhere that the Vorlons was one of the youngest races among the First Ones with the shadows being the oldest.

[@foca2002]

I don´t think he is so young, Lorien was alive before our Sun was born.

[@coachhannah2403]

The first one Sheridan meets claimed his race was first, and immortal, though not impregnable (couldn't die of old age, but susceptible to external damage leading to death).

[@FMykal]

If I remember correctly, Lorien is supposed to be around 7 billion years old.

[@everybuddy5924]

@@FMykal Lorien became sentient after the creation of the universe so that make him 14 billion years or so.

[@lucasbachmann]

Kosh's age is derived from the last Shadow war where it was only First Ones was roughly a million years ago. After that most of the first ones left beyond the rim and Lorien moved into the pit. So if Lorien met Kosh it was before that.

[@SpockBorg5]

2 points The battle where the shadows were herding survivors from their random attacks wasn't coriana 9, it was the very first engagement of the coalition Sheridan managed to put together which included the debut of the first massive batches of production whitestars produced. Should have said destroyer type in of destroyer class

[@LeoH3L1]

I think they're not actually corporeal but they can manifest as corporeal when they choose to.

[@jogymogy3691]

Vorlons are so freaking cool

[@saltMagic]

anyone else catch the eve online ships in the background?

[@christopherkeillor9728]

Can't remember the name of them offhand but they are the carrion-eaters on Babylon 5 but be here more history on them if there is

[@OmegaOrdained]

The Pak-Marah I think. I like the story of one of them joining the rangers.😎👍

[@christopherkeillor9728]

@@OmegaOrdained I like the one where they sang such beautiful sound come from such ugly Critters

[@OmegaOrdained]

I know, that was awesome. A lot like the oud from dr who.😎👍

[@willvgo2950]

Pak'ma'ra - They were neglected. With all that concern about supply shortages causing Sheridan to need to remind Ivanova to "always take the jacket off first", there was no concern about tossing a meal for a Pa'ma'ra out into space.

[@simonwillis1529]

New to your channel you doing really well

[@OmegaOrdained]

Thank you very much Simon, and welcome aboard!😎👍

[@wallsttech6881]

There's Kosh & Diet-Kosh.

[@OmegaOrdained]

😆😆😆 hahaha

[@KingOfMadCows]

I think the Shadows kind of won in the end. The Vorlons sealed up their technology to make sure none of the younger races can get an unfair advantage after they've left. The Shadows on the other hand, left their stuff everywhere. That pretty much guaranteed there'd be chaos and conflict with younger races randomly discovering advanced tech they're not ready for.

[@OmegaOrdained]

You are correct, that was pretty much what Crucade was about. With the exception of the Shadows blowing up Za'Ha'Dum, of course 😎👍

[@alexxaslind6254]

almost right the vorlons left some of their technology in the white stars to the minbaris and the rangers.

[@jaredscott367]

hhhmmmm interesting!

[@rogueguru2509]

Can anybody point me to a clip that shows the Vorlon Energy Shields please?

[@surferdude4487]

"We are all Kosh" "The avalanche has already begun. It is too late for the pebbles to vote" Two of the best lines in the whole series.

[@xan5948]

I think they likely do. But we never get to see it because it’s likely so far beyond us that we’d never have a REASON to encounter it. Imagine taking your laptop back to ancient Egypt. They would recognize it as a strange and advanced device, but there’s such a large technological gap between us and them that they would likely not comprehend what it was ever for, or why it’s even useful. You couldn’t even explain it to them. The gaps in knowledge are so vast that you’d never be able to explain enough foundational knowledge to get them to understand

[@leemiah3583]

It wasn't just the vorlons that defeated shadows. It was all the first ones together and it was still very difficult to beat them given the fact the only weakness the shadows have is telepathy.

[@NuyoRican-vm2kx]

Octopi is because octopuses is not a word for more the 1 octopus.

[@survey9728]

I wonder how they walk while in an encounter suit

[@OrishiBlackMoses]

The last part of this you said humans had moved to Vorlon space, well their planet, Is this why you see a human in a Vorlon Encounter suit at the end of the last episode?

[@OmegaOrdained]

Yes sir, I think the humans were going every where at that time. No ships or jump gates needed. Travel at the speed of thought.😎👍

[@jamesevans3492]

" We Live For The 1,.......We Die For The 1 ."

[@MorgothN]

Physiological (to make sounds), not Psychological.

[@JohnSmith-dl1ut]

Vorlons or asguardians from SG-1?

[@OmegaOrdained]

Asguards are from SG-1😎👍

[@missano3856]

Asgaard all the way!

[@alexlemonds2838]

Like to see these guys clash with the UrSkeks (The Dark Crystal).

[@Shoomer1988]

Coriana VI not Coronia Vi. And the second Vorlon ambassador, although he cryptically said "we are all Kosh" was actually called Ulkesh not Kosh.

[@pearldenault2223]

Vorlons ...could be angelic

[@jamesspinner7764]

BEST "Ultra High Tech Species Who Give Zero Fucks" Ever!

[@terencewong-lane4309]

Vorlon encounter suits are pure DRAG!

[@Joseph32547]

"YES" - Kosh

[@janakas.2642]

Why the vorlons have our names? Kosh, Kosha and Ulkesh are south asian names.

[@OmegaOrdained]

I don't know why J. Michael Strigenski picked the name Kosh, but I have heard Ulkesh, is an amalgam of ''We are all Kosh ''.😎👍

[@janakas.2642]

@@OmegaOrdained Maybe... But I know people who's name is Ulkesh... And one of my uncles name is Ashoka. So starwars is also not realy original.

[@OmegaOrdained]

There's a ton of Gould planets that are named after Egyptian cities right here on Earth as well. 😎👍

[@janakas.2642]

@@OmegaOrdained Stargate is diferent, because it supose to link with earth's history and cultures. However the anchients (the gate builders) who found enlightment (next plain of existance) Its from our religion (buddhism). Becomming the buddha everyone can do with the right mind. And we believe that people who became buddha do not want to interact with our existance. Like the anchients from stargate.

[@OmegaOrdained]

The Egyptian cities, could have been named after the goa'uld old planets.😎👍

[@guysabol8743]

It seems that information gleaned is 85% story line and15% assumed from other directives. Collective consciousness is a good wrap around term, WE tend to ignore most of our environmental sounds and repetitive sounds motions, because it would lead to chaos in our minds. Doing same with telekinesis would be a natural event. Hence it mutes the thrilling motion that C C is a unique ideal. I thought that in first season the reveal of what did happen to B 4 was a good first chuckle.

[@Fenris77]

7:24 Coriana VI actually.

[@gregorturner9421]

4 min 07 does CCP know your using an eve online background lol.

[@OmegaOrdained]

I don't know. I thought it was from Babylon 5 lol😎👍

[@darkage5]

Not to nitpick but it's pronounced Core-E-annas 6.

[@OmegaOrdained]

No worries, thank you!😎👍

[@OmegaOrdained]

And Malcolm In The Middle's dad, LOL. He looked like a baby in Babylon 5 hahaha😆😆😆

[@OmegaOrdained]

Or maybe he died for the one in the middle LOL😎👍

[@OmegaOrdained]

Dude absolutely, I feel the exact same way. My wife loved the show, and I watched a couple episodes with her, but I couldn't get into it at all. I kept telling her Malcolm's Dad wouldn't do this LOL😎👍😆😆😆

[@nicholasdickens2801]

The S is silence. Core-ee-anna sounding.

[@stephendean2896]

In others words vorlons mind rape other sentient life forms

[@brendaodowd6314]

Yup, and uses them to fight their wars.

[@JAF30]

Wait.. the sol sun went super nova by parts unknown.. But I thought it just went because ti was time for it to go.. so need to re-watch that last episode.

[@willvgo2950]

That would be about 4,000,000 years ahead of current estimates.

[@rahulshah1408]

I like how the vorlons and the shadows can be analogous to the USA and Soviet Union. All the proxy battles are similar.

[@mishalchotai4721]

I was scared of them when they got angry.. verlon

[@koshnaranek2317]

"We are all Kosh."

[@ZeitdiebX]

VERY comprehensive review, though a bit ‚technical‘. I‘d have preferred it to be a tad bit more on the ‚mythical‘ side. But nevertheless. Awesome vid, pal! Instant sub and bell.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Awesome, glad you liked it! Welcome aboard! 😎👍

[@borstenpinsel]

I feel like they had 20 different writers on this. In the beginning Kosh could only be visited by entering a gas-filled chamber. Later he roamed around the ship with no issues ("wearing a protective suit" which he wore in the chamber too). Then they explained the need for the suit with him being a known entity, no mention of the chamber again. Then we was revealed to be an angel (which reminded me about a cross over of Stargate and Superman. Powerful being known by many cultures around the galaxy but doing everything to hide that and "blend in"). In one clip he was shown to have tentacles or something that came out of his suit. Not an issue in true/angel form and never comes up again. What also isn't really explained is their absolute need for a mindreader which they apparently use to dump their brain into. Super weird.

[@DarthAgony]

It's Coriana 6, not Coronia 6...

[@OmegaOrdained]

Thank you 😎👍

[@zhugeliange5816]

But ... We are all Kash. I always thought this meant the Vorlons were one and many organisms at the same time. Similar to the Changelings of DS9.

[@matthewdavies2057]

Odd, both the Vorlons and the Shadows were aquatic races. Crabs and jellyfish.

[@kennethmelnychuk9737]

.....”ill put a bucket on my head & pretend to be the Vorlon god Boogee”......

[@OmegaOrdained]

Hahaha😆😆😆

[@willvgo2950]

Vorlon tavutna chog!

[@jamesspencer1997]

the vorlon and the shadow were the same race. they were devide on idealogy.

[@Reoh0z]

The truth points to itself.

[@koshnaranek2317]

Also, the truth is a three edge sword your side, their side, and the truth.

[@willvgo2950]

@@koshnaranek2317 Understanding is a 3 edged sword.

[@Cyclonus12]

Uh... that's "Coriana VI", nor "Caronia VI". 😀

[@OmegaOrdained]

Hey thanks!

[@orb4321]

1:12 physiological

[@justins3847]

But... the future and.... ahhh not going to say it... where vorlons came from.

[@jamesevans3492]

We Stand Behind, With And Beside Mr. David Icke . . . . . . . ;-)

[@brianm1395]

Its Octopi not Octopuses

[@OmegaOrdained]

Thank you

[@Concreteowl]

Corry Anna not Coronia

[@troybailey6904]

Subconscious Telepathy

[@ernestmac13]

I believe when the replacement for Cosh arrives at B5, this replacement refers to itself as Cosh; so they may be a collective of carbon copies of one another or have a give mind. This is similar to the alien species in the movie Puppet Masters, where when interigated and asked how many of them there are; the alien says one. So, this species has no concept of individuality.

[@gingernerd62]

Sheridan: So you're the new Vorlon Ambassador? What's your name? Ambassador: (weird alien tinkling bell sounds) Kosh Sheriden: But....wasn't the other Ambassador called Kosh? Ambassador: We are all Kosh. Sheridan: How do you tell each other apart? Ambassador: We just do. Sheridan: Isn't that confusing? Ambassador: It's a Vorlon thing......you wouldn't understand. Shreridan: ..........Oooookaaaaaaay.

[@OmegaOrdained]

We are all kosh 😎👍

[@gingernerd62]

@@OmegaOrdained Kosh: We are all Kosh and our turn offs are Shadows, Telepaths and bratty entitled humans. However we do like Gregorian chant and classical music.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Lisa Baayless hahaha😄😄😄

[@everybuddy5924]

@@OmegaOrdained I suspect that they use Kosh when dealing with other races, other than other First Ones, so that you wouldnt know if you are talking to the same or another Vorlon.

[@OmegaOrdained]

every buddy that could be, I thought that too. I've also thought maybe they are pronouncing Kosh just tiny bits different, that only other vorlons would understand the differences. And it all sounds the same to humans, kind of like zathras.😎👍

[@garethLLB]

There are some unusual nitpicking in the comment section of a fascinating video

[@lancerasmussen8580]

I'm sorry, but the audio on this video was horrible. Much too low.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Sorry about that. I was having trouble with the microphone at the time.😎👍

[@Flynbrd68]

Binge watching Babylon 5 AGAIN right now. Just finished S3 ep15....how many of you still get teary eyed when The Shadows kill Kosh? I sure do. :-(

[@OmegaOrdained]

That was sad. And really unexpected 😎👍

[@MsDeleeuw]

most of SF you see alien talk like human walk like human live like human, only Volron and Shadow it, does not even look like human at all only inside angel look like