The Hk CC9 is NOT the Best Carry Gun but THIS Is

[@TheRancor53]

Sigs continue to be plagued with high round count issues, ask any reputable training instructor about failures after 4-5k rounds. Usually trigger return spring is the 1st to break. H&K and Glock at least offer peace of mind.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

That's a great point. I've had my Walther PPS for almost 10 years and have probably 5k rounds and only a handful of ammo related malfunctions and no failures besides a cracked striker guide from dry firing (no snap cap). Walther overnighted me replacements for free. I'm finally looking for a daily carry replacement with 10 rounds.

[@dstnctw2123]

@TheRancor53 how many people have 4-5k through their carry guns tho? This is not a philosophy question.. its a straightforward question/amswer.

[@TheRancor53]

@ not enough honestly for people who carry. For training monthly 200 rds times 12 months is 1600. I don’t want my carry gun breaking a major part in 3 yrs or possibly less but that’s my take. Most shooters will probably never shoot that much.

[@xgin2637]

Ain’t no 365 can run like H&K. Totally different ball game when it comes to reliability and consistency.

[@sixstringmetal8559]

I'm still waiting for my local stores to get the CC9 in stock.

[@archipelago93]

@@sixstringmetal8559 I was stalking gun(dot)deals and saw one come up on GunPrime for $599, so I quickly jumped on it before it sold out again (and it did in a hurry haha). Never bought from that sight before but it was great. I paid $20 for shipping, but 1) it was fast shipping-two day overnight UPS, and it really did get there that fast!, and 2) they didn’t charge me sales tax, so the net price was less than if I bought local (but excluding the dang transfer fee). As for the gun itself, man the build quality is excellent. I definitely need to get used to the recoil vs my Shield Plus though!

[@user-lv8cv8sv2f]

KYGUNCO should have their next shipment arrive within less than a week. They are selling the CC9 for $556.00 with free shipping. You can purchase one before they arrive to have one reserved for you.

[@user-lv8cv8sv2f]

Kygunco should have them in any day now. You can pay for one now so you have one reserved for you. The price is $556.00 with free shipping.

[@MS-1994]

Love my Shield Plus. Also, seem to grab the Bodyguard 2.0 way more than I would've expected.

[@rlaw2]

Agreed

[@scotmetcalf2745]

@@MS-1994 but most won’t want a double action only. Wheel gun folks will though

[@NineTwoCreations]

I own both too and love each. Bodyguard in the pocket all the time until it's time to "go out".. then the shield. I want one of these CC9s though. Hope they get back in stock.

[@hammer3692]

You can get 12 round mags with the cc9. Add that with HK reliability, the testing this gun went through, it’s a top 3 option

[@Lift4Life_Patriot]

In my commie state of NY we’re only allowed to carry 10 rd mags so in my instance the mag size is negligible.

[@tommartin1223]

Commiefornia too

[@514dmiller]

@@rjnoj-xb5kqUntil then we’re still under the control of tyrannical leaders. Keep the faith!

[@W4TCHM3WA7CHU]

Dirty Jersey as well.

[@coldcasewatchesccw7158]

@@Lift4Life_Patriot NYer here as well dealing with absurd capacity laws. But i think in the event that laws change it’s nice to purchase products that can be reverted to standard spec easily. It’s kind of a bonus to buy a product that you know is capable of higher capacity even though that’s not the way we buy and carry it. If that makes sense.

[@warrenjoseph2605]

If cost isn't an issue than never forget the 365x can be paired with a radian ramjet n put into a flush length rail (x macro length) grip module with 12rd with or without a pinky hook mag base or 15rd mag so not yet padawan

[@Magswap]

Definitely valid criticism on the mag sizes. As a lefty though this will probably be my next carry gun.

[@georgek1954]

my carry rotation is Shield Plus, G43x or Bodyguard 2.0, lots of training and very confident with these.

[@Patriotx-gx4ce]

Inside secret from contracts given to a certain company they chose XD service model in 9mm,this was in late 2000's. When you look at XD line from 2001 and their polymer, grip, sights, safety of carrying with round its a fail safe and budget pistol wirh forged slide and Melonite finish,and accuracy is absolutely amazing so it the trigger. Still have to have any kind of failure with it and had it since 2010. Compare gen 5 glock next to old XD full size, you see why. Croatian quality and design along with SA. HK is next level and would love to own one knowing the tests it went through.

[@calebolson6543]

As a lefty, I’m really excited about this gun. There are very few options for ambi slide releases in the micro 9 market

[@mikejohnson9118]

Yep! I would prefer the "paddle" release option for the mags.

[@lucygrace1193]

I haven’t fired that weapon so I can’t rate that one. My EDCs are the Sig P365 & I also carry a .40 caliber Staccato ... probably “overkill” carrying those 2 on me everyday, but I want to be prepared for whatever! You never know when you may need all that! I also love the Hellcat & I keep that one in my vehicle. My EDC carry used to be Wilson until I found Staccato! Thank you for all your content! I’ve learned a lot from you, & I’ve started exploring other brands of firearms I would’ve never even considered, but your content has inspired me to branch out so to speak! Thank you again!

[@D-A-1776]

I always carry a full size with something like a g26, hellcat, or shield plus for backup you can never be to prepared

[@alwaysmakinglyrics7340]

I keep 2 on me as well, usually in 40S&W but occasionally 9mm depending on my clothing

[@D-A-1776]

@alwaysmakinglyrics7340 . Yeah I usually carry a glock 22 or 47 on my side with a sub compact micro 9 in my pocket

[@bradh.689]

I have a VP9sk that was my EDC until I bought an Optics Ready Shield Plus. Really like it, but I just don't shoot small handguns well. Bought a Sig P365 Fuse and now everything else has been relegated to home defense guns! The Fuse is a fantastic handgun that I can shoot better than any handgun I've ever shot. I'm sure the CC9 is a great gun, but I'd still take my VP9sk over it any day, just due to size.

[@andershilmo1866]

Found something similar carried a compact for a while than a p365 then to a macro. Found I shoot a p10c and a p10s much better than the previous 365 and macro. Works out since both are cheaper.

[@recklessrt]

Ive got a fully cajunized CZ P01 Omega with red dot. Love the external hammer and the DA/SA action. Thing shoots like a dream, and holds 15 rounds in the mag. Every time a new gun comes out, I have to compare to this gun. The P01 Omega isn't a micro-9 but as a church defender I wouldn't be shy going up against a bad guy with an AR with this gun. It is a NATO gun. Actually, its predecessor was a NATO gun.

[@blackphillip2393]

love the term "fully cajunized".

[@jackbauer9077]

Love my cc9, it and shield plus are 9’s for me.

[@romang6437]

How is the recoil between these 2? Is cc9 little snapier than shield plus?

[@jackbauer9077]

@ to me the cc9 shoots great, it and the shield plus are great easy shooting guns. I’d say these two pistols are same on recoil, but not bad at all way better than some like hellcat that was snappy.

[@SAR0311]

The cc9 is not been out long enough for extended use reports. But the sig 365 platform has, and for most people, that don't matter but it is not good for long-term, high-volume or extended use. Parts breakage and replacements is a real issue for the p365. I would expect the HK to have a much longer lifetime of use of its original parts from the manufacturer, just by the two companies histories

[@808redeyejedi]

Magazine depends on state. If you're in a restricted state like me, Hawaii, it doesn't matter. Yes there's a bunch of micro 9s out there, but the torture tests did on the cc9 does it for me. It'll run when u need it no matter what condition you're in. Plus it has an fcu so we just gotta wait what other goodies will come out for it.

[@PeakedHill]

FN509 CC Edge is my carry option of choice. My other carry gun was the HK USP 40sw. Switched to the FN for the ability to add a Trijicon red dot 🔴

[@chrisbarricks8083]

Still the Sig 365 and 365 xl for me. Love these two

[@austintaylor5683]

I’m going to be getting a canik mc9ls. Only $500 with optics ready 17+1 great trigger only 1” wide and includes a ton of stuff in the box. Honest Outlaw made a 1k round review on it with zero failures. The bore axis issue is more of an opinion than an issue or valid gripe.

[@ronniewarren7354]

I again agree with what you said about the CC9! I do believe they missed the mark on capacity like you said! And it is a little bit on the expensive side of micro pistols! To me everything has to be considered when looking at the best EDC. With that being said I would consider buying one in the future, but I believe there are better options as well! I have the Smith & Wesson shield plus performance center, I own the MC9, and the MC9 LS. But I am not going to lie I would love to get the CC9 and add to my collection at some point!

[@chronovore3726]

What about versus the FN Reflex?

[@lordhuck2689]

What CCW is most likely to be reliable when it's clogged with groin sweat and pocket lint? That would be the best one.

[@ashleehouse5204]

Yep! Sweat, dust, dirt, lint, saw dust, etc. Mine is swimming today. Freakishly hot and humid.

[@bchap1233]

Probably a Glock lol

[@markchambers2812]

SAR compact 9 mm , night sights , unbelievable grip , 15 round mag & a 17 round mag , about 4 Benjamins

[@TheRayDog]

Shield still top in my mind. Love the options, the safety mechanism, the many years of field testing now, the pointability, ergonomics, availability, and price. S&W just nailed it.

[@Soulcritic]

Phat Jack Fudd here! 10 years ago I started carrying a gen 3 Glock 26 with Pearce +0 XL grip extention. I won't look at another carry pistol! These micro 9 are new & different, but not better!

[@bbazzracing]

Do a comparison to The Shield plus

[@jimpoulos2272]

I like HK, if I’m going to carry, I don’t want to worry if my tool will run. You can’t beat their quality control. Plus with their barrels even the short pistols are very accurate. Yeah, they are expensive, but if you can afford it, why not?

[@randallbowman7899]

I haven't had the chance to try an h&k cc9. But I think it's going to be a winner. But until I try one out I'll stick with my Masada Slim and Shield plus. Since Sig came out with the 320 they have been down hill on everything.

[@basedgenxer]

Frustrated that I can't get my hands on a CC9. On order since late October.

[@robertegger2245]

Own an X Macro and love it ran 1500 rounds no issues at all. Shot 50 rounds through a cc9 in early December was really hoping to love it. And was ready to buy one But did not love it that much on initial impression. Availability also sucks for purchase after all the hype you can’t even get one? Cc9 shot ok I rate it at 8. A bit more snap than a VP9 SK that I shot back to back along with the x macro and 365 xl so it was a great comparison day. Far more snap than 365xl. Much prefer a SIG 365 xl or xMacro or the VP9 SKS. When and if I decide to buy a HK I would lean toward the VP9 SKS - B. Not a fan of the paddle mag release that said I would need to shoot the CC9 more or again to see if it grows on me I would also prefer a MS as I carry IWB and don’t like reholstering without the added manual safety on a loaded pistol pointed at my junk Clicking the MS OFF ON A DRAW IS A NON ISSUE MAY rent a hellcat pro with MS and see how it runs

[@lwilson1234]

Recoil looks a little spicy...😮 Bought a fuse earlier this year. Same issues as everyone is reporting. Performed my standard action/feed ramp/slick action. The thing runs like a sewing machine. Local gun store asked wtf I did to make it feel and feed so smooth. Most guns, even great guns can be pushed to the ultimate reliability standard with a small amount of work that companies can't afford to do because of price point considerations.

[@Mark-wq1nh]

I will say I'd like a safety on my X macro just for holstering it's my first striker canceled carry. It's bin 3 ish years id still like to flip a safety holster and flip off

[@jimelliott8438]

15,000 rounds I've put thru my Sig P365 without any problems over a 4 year period. I carry with an IWB holster with a 12 round magazine and forgot it there. No reason to change.

[@JB-uw5yh]

I shot this about 200 rounds and holstered it it to get a ccw feel. Good little gun that will do anything you need it to do, Id carry it for sure. But, we have choices and we can fine tune to our specific desires. For or me, grip length is important for edc..I really like the SW Shield plus, but grip length to capacity is not as good. Im loving the Sig P365 XL and Spectre Comp for capacity, grip length, and shootability. I have 4000 rounds plus through the XL and so far it has been perfect.. If I wanna go bigger I go SW 2.0 compact or G19 and or G26 .

[@blackphillip2393]

Reading the comments, many have said what I'm thinking. That the H&K CC9 is going to be the most reliable and durable. I have a Beretta 80x that I've been carrying but would like a 2nd and smaller carry pistol that is 9mm and I think the CC9 will fit the bill.

[@gatrucker69]

I WAS a sig fan but between my p320 & p365xl luck, I WON'T EVER buy another sig. This will most likely be my next purchase

[@SAR0311]

It's not just your luck, it's a lot of people's luck. Especially if you really put a whole lot of rounds down range you will find out sooner than sooner

[@quoththeraven7]

I have the strike industry's grit module on my P365X. maggot spring in the magazine to give me two extra rounds. So I have 14 + 1 without adding any length to the magazine. and the Holosun 407K. I have not seen a micro 9 out here that will Pull me away from my P365X. tab bit snappy. but I definitely can handle it

[@Bryan-1689]

Have not been able to get my hands on an HK CC9, none of my LGS's have had them and a couple will not get them for whatever reason. But I think the Sig P365 variants are very good, I currently running a P365X with Radian Ramjet and Afterburner Comp or my P365 AXG Legion. I also like my Canik MC9LS with a FreedomSmith Fat Daddy II trigger.

[@Rguy516]

Wife got one for 590 i didnt like it much but she does we will see how it shoots this weekend

[@Swamprowdy]

I'll stick with the Shield Plus. I bought a Bodyguard 2.0 for occasional carry, and am testing the Canik MC9L. But there is just something about the Shield, and I judge all other potential carry guns i consider with the Shield.

[@markm5112]

Shield plus, p365x.

[@tnsteel]

The HK is not comparable to the thin but long crowd popular with many folks, so I disagree in saying those are superior due to capacity (Fuse, Macro, Hellcat pro&comp, etc). In its size space, it is probably a great gun. Unfortunately for HK, most people who want that size have one, or several, so it is a trade up buy. I'd try it if I could find it.

[@Thomk121]

I love the Sig P365 platform. I just wish i could find a grip that i like on it. I gotta do more research and find one wider to fit my non dominant hand thenar onto. My shield plus is the only micro ive found so far that i can actually grip properly.

[@JN-un2xz]

I had the same issue with my p365 until a replace the original grip with the Wilson combat one

[@robertwotring7318]

@@JN-un2xz i second the Wilson grip with the tungsten weights, takes some snap out!

[@J.Wick.]

Haven't tried this new CC9...But I have tried most of the others...I still can't find anything that I prefer to my Shield Plus, Equalizer, or M&P40c (357s). I've been planning on grabbing a Bodyguard2.0 for Summer to replace my LCP Max (it's ok))

[@mrmcbeth]

I’d shoot an HK over anything else d/t durability and reliability. Glock is good, too. I didn’t shoot the 365, but I carried the hellcat. I wore it out carrying and shooting it. I had to switch back to my P30SK. I can wait to try out the CC9. I just wish it had more capacity and a slightly longer barrel.

[@Wilders53]

I'll just keep my HK VP9SK!

[@stevenbartoszewski1654]

The one gun that cant be found anywhere in 2024 and prolly halfway though 25 except in the hands of youtubers. Meanwhile the echelion is in all FFLs within 2 days

[@josephcastelli483]

I’m a lefty which most subcompacts are not made for so for me it’s the best lol 😂

[@barney214]

Sig's quality and customer service sucks. I won't buy another.

[@ubpushinda5ie560]

Personally I think this came out way too late for it ever become popular. The p365, g43x, hellcat, shield plus are already readily available at half that price. I see no reason to even consider this. Personally I can’t think of a lot that hk does better then anyone else besides not giving us what we want…. A sp7 and waiting 20 years to give is a sp5

[@wc7102]

You may be right, but finding 1 in stock takes some Batman level detective work lol

[@protomon]

Doesn't matter. HK makes amazing quality and performance. Worth the wait.

[@ubpushinda5ie560]

@@protomon for some people, not for most.

[@glenhar1225]

Fully +p rated. Not "limited". Take it from there. For some that may decide it for light woods carry, etc.

[@CheifDegenerate]

But is the ambidextrous slide release actually usable for left handed shooters? I got the M&P 2.0 when it came out and the slide release was only usable as a slide stop. So for the longest time I've been carrying an FN. Since ambidextrous controls have been a mainstay feature on their pistols longer than anyone else in the game.

[@pgithens1]

As a lefty the new HK is, as far as I’m concerned, the only real contender in the micro 9 carry gun market with the Canik a very distant second. Reversing the magazine release on any Canik is the stuff nightmares are made of and they don’t have the customer service that anyone else has. It is non-existent. I personally never liked the 365. Just waiting for these to be more available.

[@e.oliveira2746]

Does Taurus is producing the new HK CC9? 😱 If yes... I will prefer the Gx4 Carry 15rounds.

[@Honda1k]

Sheild plus is the goat

[@tonybarrett2245]

#1 imo

[@JBlakeS23]

Isn’t sig in trouble for selling untested guns just for profits?

[@MSS-wx5fd]

CC9 = 10/10, no contest

[@jl696]

I was waiting to hear which guns were better the whole video and I didn't. Well? Is that in another video?

[@hixnada8278]

Really disappointed by this CC9. We want the SFP9CC that HK had been showing for the last three years. This CC9 thing isn’t a real HK: it’s not made in Oberndorf, and it’s not made for a LE/military. I hope we get the SFP9CC here sooner than later.

[@ethanarias2911]

I keep seeing carry guns get bigger and bulkier and having more crap tacked onto them. In my personal experience a low drag handgun I can put in a pocket and keep a hand on is way better. I understand desiring capability but a lot of that "capability" isnt worth an inconvenient footprint imo.

[@Civiliansoldier762]

The S&W M&P shield is a workhorse. I carried one for around 10 years. Recently switched to an Sig P365xl but I will always have love the M&P’s. On a striker fired pistol I appendix carry I want a manual safety so I’d never buy a glock or any one that doesn’t offer a manual safety.

[@hackdaplanethobbes]

Sounds like a training issue if you need a manual safety for appendix carry.

[@hondasaurusrex6998]

Nice presentation as always Hegster. HK is not something i would go for. Overpriced and too late to the dance. I'll stick with my workhorse the Hellcat. As to Sig P365... well its my safe queen.

[@jgoody9597]

Just slightly bigger and sturdier than the P365 in all the right ways. Great ergonomics for a tiny gun. HK has released a P365 with Glock reliability/durability. That’s all you really need to know.

[@timothydardar4909]

Too many very good and affordable guns to give it a high rating and too late to the game it looks like they partnered with Taurus for this one

[@jedeckert9525]

I prefer a full size grip. Glock19 size.

[@LilApe]

HK is the best because it will actually work, unlike the sig.

[@michaelsoto9232]

750 thousand rounds yeah I call that BS but hey I guess we need to believe everything that is being said now and days.

[@Sirgromulus]

Perhaps this is the number of rounds through a variety of guns through the entire development program. Even at 20 cents per round that equates to $150,000.

[@Lift4Life_Patriot]

@@michaelsoto9232 no one said they put 750,000 rounds through literally one pistol. But yes, you can call BS to one of the most reputable gun companies ever. Lol 🤷🏻‍♂️ “Built to HK's renowned durability standards, the CC9 had over 750 thousand rounds fired during development and testing.”

[@protomon]

Your video could have ended at the :09 sec mark.

[@davidbarnes7999]

every micro 9 video i see makes me laugh b/c here i sit with my gen 5 glock 26 with a scs and a +2 mag ext that i shoot better than the p365 & xmacro, the shield + and 43x. guess im old and old school but the 26 just doesn’t get any love anymore!

[@volbrenYT]

It's better than the 365, so there's that.

[@davidleekalbjr.3035]

Honestly. I'll likely never own one. My budget is more like, Canik. I do have a S&W Shield Plus. I got new for $450. in 2023.

[@davidhart7741]

Thanks for the reviews. Had to unsubscribe though. Too many interruptions for ads. Sorry.

[@ForrestGreen-bi9nj]

Great. Another one I can’t afford.

[@Asidebar]

H&K cc9 is a great choice. I rate the cc9 a 9. S&W i dislike.

[@twrol]

lol, and the marketing guy should be fired for releasing this the same as the new Canik carry gun.

[@janliving4Him]

🎉

[@andyhardie-brown2198]

#1 Hellcat #2 S&W Shield #3 Sig 365

[@angrybiker1]

I live in a communist state so I will not be able to put my hands on it till sometime next year probably March. It is on the roster for review this month. I carry a g43x and it will take a lot for it to trump that.

[@oleboy7615]

Sig sucks. Why people still waste money on them is astonishing.

[@raymarchetta7551]

750,000 through one gun or a bunch of guns?

[@Sirgromulus]

Probably a variety of guns through the development program. Can't imagine 3/4 million rounds through one handgun!

[@wc7102]

If it’s 1, I want to see that barrel!

[@Lift4Life_Patriot]

From their website: “Built to HK's renowned durability standards, the CC9 had over 750 thousand rounds fired during development and testing”

[@raymarchetta7551]

@@Lift4Life_Patriot through one gun or a bunch of guns?

[@Lift4Life_Patriot]

@ I can’t attest for hk but based on the verbiage, I would assume it’s a number of pistols. But if you’re making the same exact pistol and testing it again and again that is certainly R&D I don’t know if any pistol in the world can handle 750,000 rounds and still show up with a smiling face lolol

[@ehornad]

Own 4x sizes of p365, Fuse is the most accurate

[@1776tjs]

The CC9 is ugly af and too late to the game

[@jeffreygoss8109]

Not for lefties. 😂 I would guess a few will trade in the edc for this.

[@1776tjs]

@ all the big competition in the segment are ambi so that’s kind of a moot point

[@jeffreygoss8109]

@ I could be wrong, I’m a lefty looking for an ambi slide release and don’t see too many. Lead me in the right direction. Thanks

[@1776tjs]

@ vp9sk, p30sk, any p365 variant, Glock 43x/48/any gen 5 variant, bodyguard 2.0, to name a few

[@graywind4326]

Not touching any sig 320 or 365 variant of the week.

[@XrayMike17plus1]

7... Not a bad weapon. I just don't like the company, their wait and cheat off other's R&D approach, and their visibly disdainful attitude towards America's 2A. Sometimes one just holds their nose and acquiesces. Not this time.

[@mojo4376]

Staccato C2

[@chrisinghram9181]

Not a fan of the small guns

[@Lift4Life_Patriot]

That’s what she said

[@Mr.T711]

H&K late to the party and for fans. Nothing special.

[@jarhead767]

Shield Plus &/ P365 XL hands down

[@DavidJStynchcombe]

I paid $585 for my HK CC9. When I saw the gun at that price, I took it like a thief and ran.

[@defilade1066]

Micro's are too small. Gripping a pencil is not ideal. Carry the largest gun you can carry you will shoot better.

[@Olof67]

Smith & Wesson m&p m 2.0

[@thomascee]

I would not buy or give HK my money. I don’t give money to companies who are jerks to civilians 😁 Shield+, Bodyguard 2.0, 365, those are my current favs 😁

[@markrippt4677]

What HK guys hear every range trip. "Cool Taurus Bro.". When you consider cost it is a 3 out of 10. The Mossberg MC2SC is a better gun at 350.00