The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug Pitch Meeting

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After the massive success of the Lord of the Rings trilogy, Hollywood understandably wanted to find another way to cash in on the works of JRR Tolkien. That came in the form of The Hobbit trilogy, starring Martin Freeman as Bilbo Baggins. The only problem? While The Lord of the Rings trilogy was based on a trilogy of books, The Hobbit trilogy was based off a single one. So yeah-- there’s a lot of filler.
The Desolation of Smaug definitely raises some questions. Like why do these dwarves keep getting captured every few minutes? Is Bilbo really going to have to use the ring every time to help them escape? Why does he keep removing it in key action scenes? Why is Legolas here? How did they think they’d be able to take down a dragon using heat? Why does this movie just kind of end?
To answer all these questions and more, step inside the Pitch Meeting that led to The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug! It’ll be super easy, barely an inconvenience.
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[@kevinrwhooley9439]

If he ever does Alita Battle Angel, he should give Alita normal sized eyes.

[@monsoon861]

Yeah or enormous eyes biggwr then hers

[@lilmissknowitall5775]

Kevin. You are a genius. Best comment of the day. Promotions all round. Take the rest of the week off.

[@TheDiceMan360]

😂😂🤣

[@Nightley4]

Make them freakishly small instead.

[@wodencafe]

I'm voting for an Alita: Battle Angel pitch meeting.

[@nthequation5677]

I thought he was going to say "Holes that are hard to find are TIGHT!!!"

[@clintfischer1057]

he regrets not having said that now.

[@burritodog3634]

oh because vagina? funny!

[@pee-buddy]

Yes they are! 😂

[@legueu]

Missed opportunity, so sad.

[@zzyxxyzz5442]

That's too naughty.

[@SharpDesign]

"If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, I was barely involved." ~Gandalf

[@Somnogenesis]

"If you're referring to the incident with the dragon, it was super easy, barely any involvement."

[@jonathonrobinson6081]

It took 12 years to make! Am I on the right KZbin channel?

[@samjackson9560]

@@jonathonrobinson6081 what

[@markjosephbacho5652]

Hahaha I just realized lol. Gandalf was saying the truth after all. Cuz he's literally not there at the time😆

[@devlin9871]

I demand “plot-orc” to become an official term for a grunt pointlessly giving away plot relevant info that they have no reason to bring up in that moment.

[@ghostlightx9005]

Seconded

[@jaredhoeft2832]

Somebody contact TV tropes! We've got a new one!

[@frankmyers8062]

I concur

[@picardisnotamused67]

Approval grantes

[@LilithQuigley]

I agree. ALL IN FAVOUR!?

[@VikingerOnYT]

"He's a plot-orc" Brooo 😂😂😂

[@abhijittapadar1813]

Tight..

[@lilmissknowitall5775]

Plorc

[@justinev5668]

I wanted to comment on that one.... brillliant!!!!

[@AllenAlberti]

we need to make Plot-orc a thing people commonly say now.

[@shadowknight7584]

Yup

[@peterg76yt]

The River of Questionable Physics will get you there.

[@Coenen2517]

@Ricky Shiffer It's essentially Donkey Kong with a few tweaks.

[@artman2oo3]

Yes, but isn’t it difficult to go down that river?

[@mosart7025]

@@artman2oo3 barely an inconvenience

[@onegonearm]

That river put Wonka's river to shame.

[@artman2oo3]

@@mosart7025 But not super easy?

[@Chayce42]

The fact that these haven’t lost their charm and have only gotten better is amazing

[@TF2Fan101]

It’s like a reverse CinemaSins! Or if CinemaSins had their entropy reversed Tenet style!

[@TW2Vlog]

RIGHT?!

[@mckenzie.latham91]

I don’t know, this comes off as kind of arrogantly pretentious I mean sarcasm is fine but this is at highly sustained levels that breach the line between sarcastic hilarity and douchebag condescension.

[@oospos1550]

Oh realy?

[@Oberin271]

@@mckenzie.latham91 Sarcasm at highly sustained levels that breach the line between sarcastic hilarity and douchebag condescension is TIGHT

[@wesleyoldham-cartoonsandtv1962]

"No, the dragon flies off towards LakeTown" "Why?" "Well, Stephen Colbert is doing a cameo there"

[@Asidders]

And Stephen Fry!

[@pelloo3627]

@@Asidders and Peter Jackson

[@chrispeters3466]

"The River of Questionable Physics" LOLOLOLOLOLOL

[@terhazza]

Wow wow wow....wow :o

[@coltonbates629]

120 likes yet no comment to be found

[@shadowknight7584]

Lol

[@luminoustorus548]

lol lol lol... lol

[@tayeb7031]

i read that last part the same way he says "wow wow wow wow"

[@Rougarou99]

The Desolation of Smaug, or How Watson Convinces Sherlock to Leave the Flat.

[@coffeeaddict9605]

You joke about that, but do you have idea how many people wanted Smaug and Bilbo to bang simply because they wanted Sherlock and Watson to bang? ...it was a disturbing time on the internet.

[@guilherme5094]

@@coffeeaddict9605 Wtf!

[@ShifuCareaga]

@@coffeeaddict9605 well we know at least one person who was part of that community. Tell us more don't hold back.

[@jdwmyt]

Q: What creature is smarter than a talking parrot? A: A spelling bee.

[@sylph8005]

@@coffeeaddict9605 Baggenshield is the only good Hobbit ship

[@3LeafClovers]

"The __________ of questionable physics" needs to be in every action movie Pitch Meeting from now on.

[@RogerLackman]

I second this!

[@raydunakin]

The way that Bilbo found the Arkenstone (sp?) was one of the most ridiculously "super easy, barely an inconvenience" moments in this trilogy. In a huge cave piled with truckload upon truckload of golden objects, the stone is just sitting there in the open. What would they have done if it was buried under 20-30 feet of gold coins??

[@gabrielgomes2949]

But it wasn't buried under 20-30 feet of gold coins "Why is that?" So the movie can happen

[@calvinjohnstone2664]

He was gonna dig for it, Hobbits are good at that they live holes that they dug.

[@Grasslander]

@@calvinjohnstone2664 Yeah, he can dig and dig and dig for it ... except THERE'S A DRAGON THERE!

[@bradcarver8127]

Oh conveniently placed plot devices are tight

[@16shogunelitegreen]

It wasn't THAT easy.

[@lilahmckee219]

"HE'S FROM THE LORD OF THE RINGS MOVIES" every instance of fan service ever. XD

[@paulmoore4223]

Yeah yeah yeah

[@tallymark2417]

Referencing other movies is TIGHT!

[@eddwallis6590]

“River of Questionable Physics” is a new high for Ryan, absolute gold.

[@brucebaker810]

Like P Bride's Swamp of Infinite Despair. (Or, like, whatever.)

[@FS71625]

Better than the CGI molten gold at least

[@sseltrek1a2b]

again- too funny...

[@Touchgrassplz]

a worthy phrase along with: "The Prometheus School of Running Away from Things"

[@tweaker1bms]

Was that the new Harry Potter book?

[@Gamer-xz4sg]

Hobbit pitch meetings in a nutshell: He'S fRoM tHe LoRd Of ThE rInGs MoViEs

[@aimeeagustin4672]

I mean its true, isn't?

[@wesleyoldham-cartoonsandtv1962]

I love how excited he got about Gimlee, when he didn't even recognize the name 🤣🤣🤣

[@jonathonrobinson6081]

Saying someone from Lord of the Rings is from Lord of the Rings is tight!

[@darthdestructor927]

@@jonathonrobinson6081 oh milking a franchise for nepotism is tight!!!

[@azariahirungu4094]

"I feel like beating a dragon with heat isn't gonna work"😂A+

[@raydunakin]

"I should know, I spend most of my time on the internet and I almost went on a date one time." LOL!!!

[@squalltheonly]

Story of my life

[@punkwrestle]

If writers wanted to go on dates they would become Producers like Harvey Weinstein!

[@robertwinslade3104]

I feel attacked

[@PatrickMahomes15Chiefs]

That was the best joke ever

[@captaintony1227]

Best....line......ever!!!

[@Aidan.w]

"Is the CGI molten gold going to look absolutely terrible?" "Oh, offensively so!"

[@darthplagueis13]

"Is the molten gold actually going to look like molten gold?" "Oh, of course not, we are gonna make it look like a bunch of golden paint instead."

[@Ancano]

But Smaug will look Fabulous!

[@BezoRazo]

It's the same gold used to "crown" Viserys Targaryen

[@EndofTransmission]

Was actually ok imo. Also, I kinda appreciated the fantastical, slightly surreal feel of that scene.

[@JayTohab]

"It's going to look like really gross cheese fondue"

[@devanhinskey9001]

Smaug was literally the best thing about this movie.

[@sebastianthegoat4265]

he was pretty much the only good thing about the movie

[@kenthart7519]

Thranduil too

[@the-engneer]

I disagree. I was incredibly disappointed in how lame they portrayed Smaug compared to the book, and Smaug wasn't even in the first movie at all

[@iforgot87872]

@@the-engneer I thought he was pretty damn cool but yeah they do escape from him a few times

[@KingQwertzlbrmpf]

Except that he occasionally turns into a cat for no discernable reason. Like when he is chasing the dwarves around and whenever he is about to catch one and somebody calls smaug for an obvious distraction smaug immedietly changes target instead of finishing off the dwarve right in front of him...

[@schattentaenzerin]

1:59 it never fails to crack me up, how proud Producer Guy is of recognizing someone, even though he never does unless Screenwriter Guy tells him beforehand. He's like an excited puppy!

[@NotQuiteFirst]

I'm not subscribed to Screen Rant, but the KZbin algorithm just knows I always watch Pitch Meetings

[@IcecalGamer]

Same here. I am subbed to Ryan George tho :)

[@cashmancool2879]

Lol

[@rendivevisaramunenyiwa8859]

Same

[@KennyBky92]

All hail the omniscient algorithm 🙌

[@LaTericeallover]

Say what!?!? Thanks man

[@micahbiesinger9824]

“...and I almost went on a date one time.” The world is glad you didn’t, writer. How else would we get such treasures?

[@Derek_Keenan]

I've always thought of him as more of a "Mr. Writer"

[@godemperorofmankind3.091]

Screenwriter Guy

[@sterling7]

I quite like Evangeline Lilly. But, gods, the "romance" with Tauriel and Kili is actively painful to watch.

[@dairyfiend6929]

Well she didn’t want to do it. Plus I bet ol’ Harvey had a hand in it, wanting to humiliate her.

[@opposumness3107]

@@dairyfiend6929 I knew she didn't want to do it, but what? Mr.Creep has a hand in that despicable love triangle? Is it specultion, or is there something to it,

[@lennyztrobos8678]

@@opposumness3107 More likely someone said "hey guys, hol up. Is there literally not a single female character in this entier book? 🤔"

[@1umbreon4life]

@@lennyztrobos8678 Hey now, let's not pretend the problems in these movies are because of how the book was written; the people making the movies clearly never read it.

[@donaldtusk2678]

@@lennyztrobos8678 actually it goes into a bit of detail about bilbos mother if I remember correctly

[@lugialover09]

To be fair, the naming of Sting actually does take place in the book, so it's totally sensible to include it in the movies.

[@jeffhallinan194]

Though the spider never said anything, Bilbo named it after the noises and movements the spider made when it was stabbed.

[@pjom4191]

Also in the books that the bird drop the hobbits in the middle of nowhere

[@autumnh2557]

Wait, did the spider talk in the movies? I need to rewatch them lol

[@lugialover09]

@@autumnh2557 I have no clue if they do in the movie, but they definitely do to some extent in the book.

[@pyromare4879]

@@lugialover09 yes they talk about eating the dwarves and looking for the noise after bilbo throws a stone

[@albinodeer7449]

I can't believe tehre was no reference to John Bilbo Watson-Baggins reuniting with his dragon-detective friend Benedrag Cumbersmaug

[@mosart7025]

Cause we were counting on you to make a brilliant one. And you came through!

[@ismata3274]

.... Redirecting.... See the video: first fanfiction......... (star trek disagrees)

[@anabee8310]

Benedrag Cumbersmaug

[@Radnick0024]

There's also Dr. Strange and Agent Ross-- though they never crossed paths yet

[@ossianback]

"Plot Orc" needs to be a page on TV Tropes

[@andrewlance3898]

Agreed. Whatever the term for the trope of a captured enemy who delivers exposition is, it should now be a Plot Orc

[@Baby_Beers]

“Oh so the dwarves bring that up to the mountain?” “Nope” “Oh okay” 😂👏🏼

[@logandesris6841]

I've never laughed harder than I laughed at "He's a plot orc"😂😂😂

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

“Gandalf goes off to learn the Lord of the Rings will happen”

[@jer1014t2th]

...except that's not actually what happened. He went off to join and guide a massive effort to purge "the enemy" aka Sauron from a stronghold in the same forest the spiders are in. So travelling, convincing, scouting, etc. And they succeed. And then the events of the Lord of the Rings trilogy happen.

[@Stephen_The_Waxing_Lyricist]

"So you have a dead horse for me to beat?" "Yes sir, I do. It's by JRR Tolkein"

[@Stephen_The_Waxing_Lyricist]

@Ricky Shiffer ...and we can do origin stories too! Bombadil: A Lord of the Rings story

[@scottwendt9575]

I believe Tolkien once said “Plot Orcs” are the most treacherous kind of orc... 😏

[@wesleyoldham-cartoonsandtv1962]

@MrBG1138 "Darth Vader is Luke's father!" "That's not even from this movie" "I'm a plot orc! I spoil all movies!"

[@chrislanglois8275]

@MrBG1138 same here after reading ur comment 🤣

[@downlowe34]

I believe plot orcs are the most dangerous also. To both the actual plot and the plots of Middle Earth farmers everywhere!

[@heyokaikaggen6288]

No, that would be Character Orcs, those darn things get everywhere and they're never properly formed...

[@liliesaregoodfortheliver2954]

@@wesleyoldham-cartoonsandtv1962 "Snape kills Dumbledore!" "The box contains the wife's head!" "Bruce Willis was dead all along!"

[@Dreadroberts]

"They're actively chasing around a super powerful wizard, but they're scared of a bear?" Clearly these two have never seen "The Revenant".

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

For real though, why didn't Gandalf do anything with orcs except making some fire?

[@tommyakesson8858]

@@user-xx6vy9ri8p ask Tolkien. His wizards and magic system arent exactly the fire ball slinging sorts. Its more vague and mysterious.

[@7superdaimajin]

Beorn is no ordinary bear.

[@Derek_Keenan]

or Goldilocks!

[@toddgarver5397]

Who was the wizard in The Revenant?

[@SuperR167]

Randomly refreshing youtube and seeing a new pitch meeting "posted 6 minutes ago" is tight!

[@derrickjenkins2455]

Yeah yeah yeah yeah!!!

[@HagenvonEitzen]

well, okay then

[@anthonyantinarella3360]

How difficult was it to refresh KZbin?

[@Charmer4856]

Very very tight

[@jackfranzino7887]

@@anthonyantinarella3360 Super easy, barely an inconvenience

[@magicalme7237]

“The river of questionable physics” 🤣 I wonder how many other movies that river has made an appearance in.

[@raydunakin]

That river had a major role in "Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull".

[@pee-buddy]

Don't know why, but that was the line that got me! 🤣🤣🤣

[@zzyxxyzz5442]

Sixtyninth like!

[@moviemeows4466]

Bird Box for one!

[@janedoex1398]

Bwahahaha ! : } Thanks for the laugh. No seriously. I needed one.

[@sigourney6727]

"The river of questionable Physics" Ha! I love that one 🤣🤣🤣

[@-Grovesy-]

1:25 I should mention that the scene didn't make sense when the spider said "It stings" when in the film & book, the spiders can't be understood without wearing it. Which, Bilbo took it off for that stabbing scene.

[@Ryabnimation]

“It’s a good thing we’re making these movies, for sure”.

[@lazerninga]

He went in a little hard on Sting. It’s an actual detail from the book. Sure it’s definitely not necessary to include, but it’s not the detail that deserved to be used for that.

[@MiloTheCrotonian]

@@lazerninga it has been in the other hobbit movie as well.

[@ilyarudnitskiy8122]

A fellow hearthstone circlejerker in the wild!

[@Ryabnimation]

@@ilyarudnitskiy8122 I thought this was Standard

[@dans4323]

"River of questionable physics" Lol, what a name.

[@xaiano794]

You know the only reason they made that scene was so they could make a theme park ride one day

[@xaiano794]

LOL after doing some research it seems they are making a theme park at Orlando studios in florida. Called it.

[@KhaosKontroller]

"That's from that movie!" is my current favourite recurring joke in these videos.

[@muman1]

"Unnecessarily vague ancient maps are TIGHT!" 😂😂😂😂

[@vullord666]

I know its been said before, but its still relevant *”Turning one book into three movies is TIGHT”*

[@potzblitz6577]

Actually it is quite the opposite. ;)

[@RoboSteave]

Won't turning one book into three movies be really hard? (said the straight man).

[@hondadanta1697]

With lord of the rings, they made the original into three books because they felt it was too long

[@ceilinh6004]

@@RoboSteave Actually, it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience. (I know you were waiting for that.)

[@Carewolf]

@@hondadanta1697 Actually they made 6 books into three because the publisher thought 6 books would be too much.

[@dans4323]

"Oh, okay so he's a plot-orc?" 😂

[@diobuthesconfused7507]

Oh plot-orcs are *TIGHT*

[@antonackermann9620]

"Oh, OK. He's a plot orc." This slew me.

[@KingQwertzlbrmpf]

"The river of questionable physics" That's just gold^^ Fun fact: They actually had to specialy engineer the barrels to float with the open side up. Any normal barrel would just keel over and run full of water.

[@billc.2627]

"I feel like beating a dragon with heat isn't going to work." Ah, the voice of reason.

[@aaronli1488]

To be fair that much gold would weigh tens of thousands of tons (Thorin was only 1/3 as tall as the statue's head) and most things die when you drop a tsunami on them.

[@baguettegott3409]

@@aaronli1488 not a dragon though.

[@sweetsandcharades8383]

@@aaronli1488The weight is a good point. I thought they were trying to make him choke on the gold. He might be able to stand the heat but if his lungs are filled with gold he won’t be able to breathe.

[@reallycantthinkofausername487]

Fairly sure the plan was to crush him with the gold, because it is extremely heavy. Kinda shows how jacked Smaug is that he casually flew off with the gold still on him

[@brokeneyes6615]

“ A spider in a lot of pain” Movie totally justified.

[@scottwendt9575]

So what travel agency can book me a rafting trip on “the River of Questionable Physics?”

[@Somnogenesis]

Thorin & Co. :)

[@guesswhat5200]

I kinda like the little stories they add behind the details, like how sting got its name. It adds extra depth, a bit of comedy on some levels. It's like a deserved Easter egg.

[@justiorma7471]

RYAN, PLEASE, I NEED TO SEE THE PRODUCER GUY LISTENING TO THE WRITER PITCHING ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW. I NEED IT

[@bend.7590]

“A spider in a lot of pain” lol love these

[@scorp77snake]

To be fair this is how Bilbo named it in the book as well

[@MiloTheCrotonian]

It was in the book and the animated hobbit movie

[@CameronMalott]

"It's a good thing we're making these movies, for sure!". Most sarcastic statement in internet history.

[@TheAntiTrope]

I can usually get through these with random laughter throughout but no stopping the video, but you earned the spit-take and pause for a FIT of laughter with the "they practically take flight" 🤣, the fact that the clip of that scene was there to illustrate it's own ridiculousness was too much for me. My wall is covered in gin and tonic.

[@quantumbyte-studios]

A "Princess Bride" pitch meeting would be 'inconceivable'!

[@ironmammoth530]

@riflemanusa Words not meaning what you think they mean are tight!

[@poppy87]

Actually it's gonna be super easy,barely an inconvenience.

[@Roariken1]

No, no, no super easy barely inconceivable.

[@sabrinamiller3671]

Beorn was my favorite character in the book, and I was livid at how they not only gave him next to no screen-time but totally screwed up his character.

[@teresasevy1563]

After watching the movie I wondered why they added him in at all. He made no difference in the end.

[@potzblitz6577]

@@teresasevy1563 So the readers would say, oh look there's Beorn, he was in the book!

[@BonaparteBardithion]

@@potzblitz6577 Probably in response to all the people that insisted LotR should have had Tom Bombadil even though he contributes even less to the story. A cool character does not always make a cool movie scene.

[@user-xx6vy9ri8p]

@@BonaparteBardithion If they give him more screen time in final battle...

[@jakarnilson]

And they could have used his introduction to re-introduce the Dwarves, just like they do in the book.

[@sinkingship101]

I love that the barrel escape included the random low resolution gopro shot thats actually in the movie lol. They went so heavy on the tech that the movie feels like it is cgi even when its not and then THAT is in there.

[@jaybe2k12]

"Oh finding hidden holes is TIGHT!" Missed opportunities

[@papaelf]

😂 😂 😂 That was my first thought! 😂 😂 😂

[@pauldudley1200]

When you realize Legolas got more screen time in a movie that he wasn't even suppose to be in than lord of the rings

[@blueteller]

Because fanservice.

[@Alex-lk6rn]

This reminds me of Eowyn in LOTR. Cool character and all, but the dozens of scenes - and I mean DOZENS - where she is just falling in love with Aragorn or staring at Aragorn of silently talking to Aragorn or weeping over Aragorn was just too much. It has started to annoy me so bad that I just skip those parts now haha Off course producers should be allowed to have artistic freedom, I personally love Legolas in both LOTH and the Hobbit. I guess I just really dont like how they depict Eowyn lol

[@sunlight605]

"He is from The Lord of The Rings movies!! It's all connected." I love how happy Producer guy becomes when character from original movie shows up in sequel/prequel/spin off.

[@stirlingpiano]

Fun fact: Today is Howard Shore’s birthday! He composed the music for both the Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit trilogies.

[@RictusHolloweye]

"He's from those movies!"

[@flammyyyyy]

Hey that's an actual fun fact!

[@EWIK_-hg4ln]

@@RictusHolloweye he sure is, sir

[@EWIK_-hg4ln]

*Fellowship theme intensifies

[@vicmartone]

Playing fast and loose with fun

[@Julia-lk8jn]

I'm expecting an awful lot from these videos by now, but "River of Questionable Movies" cracked me up. That, and the various "oh, is that going to look good?" - "God no!"

[@princetorrinraven1640]

"so we gotta sideline this beardy boy" lol

[@Cuzjudd]

Has anyone said beardy boy before?

[@brucebaker810]

So the movie can happen.

[@TaddiestMason]

Sidelining Gandalf's immense power is TIGHT

[@nikoincroatia]

Gandalf: You lost it? You lost the ring that has semi-sentience and wants to be carried and remembered and can literally - Bilbo: Yeah and I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about that Gandalf: Oh okay sorry man you're right I'll get right off it

[@sarahcrowley8646]

"Beardy boy" made my day

[@roleplayer5564]

"Very unhelpful birdies" is kind of a common theme for thev books.

[@m.c.doublestudios]

one thing that always bothered me about the movie is it's called "The desolation of smaug" but we see neither smaug desolate or get desolated however both of those things happen in the third movie.

[@FiremanDuval]

Are you sure you know the definition of desolate? 👀🤣

[@creativedesignation7880]

@@FiremanDuval Desolation can mean devastation aswell as bleakness or loneliness.

[@pinktribble]

'The Desolation' is a description of the desolate state of the area around the mountain in which Smaug resides.

[@wattycuffee5664]

It means he caused desolation. Not that he was desolated. Which makes no sense

[@JackDManheim]

When an OP character is sidelined in a movie to prevent them from rapidly resolving the plot, it is called being "Xavier'd". The term was coined by The Weekly Planet podcast, but I suppose the true credit for the concept would actually have to go Bryan Singer.

[@CDMVIDZ]

"So, you have a sci-fi movie for me?" "Yessir, I do. It's called 'Every Sci-Fi Movie Except BLADE RUNNER." "Very exciting!" "Yeah yeah yeah!" "So we're not doing BLADE RUNNER, huh?" "We're not, no." "Isn't it one of the most iconic and at the same time endlessly Pitch-Meetingable films in, you know, the world?" "It sure is, sir." "Then why aren't we doing that thing?" "Because!" "That works!" Please, Ryan. Please. Do BLADE RUNNER. Ryan: "I'm gonna need you to get ALLLL the way off my back about BLADE RUNNER." Me, sadly: "Oh. Okay. Lemme... get off of that thing."

[@MarieGarrett.]

Dude. 🤣

[@blipmachine]

Christopher Nolan: So you have a budget for me? WB exec: Yes sir, I do!

[@natestadler2352]

Is this a reference to an earlier pitch meeting or do you mean Peter Jackson

[@blipmachine]

@@natestadler2352 it’s a reference to a pitch meeting that _hasn’t happened yet_

[@yelnik1070]

Bing watching 250 pitch meetings is super easy, barely an inconvenience!

[@Cuzjudd]

oh really?

[@pawsclawsandjaws3314]

A very pitchy binge indeed.

[@user-cj9vi9or5o]

I'm gonna need you to get all the way off my back about this KZbin addiction thing...

[@Cuzjudd]

@@user-cj9vi9or5o don't watch Andrew Kirkby's channel then

[@yelnik1070]

@@user-cj9vi9or5o ok, let me get off of that thing!

[@kotasports6659]

Producer: “Do you want infinite pitch meeting videos until the end of time” Me: “Yes sir I do!”

[@Deadknight67]

0:36 "Guess what everybody I gotta go", the lip sync is really close hahaha.

[@nicholaslindsey7087]

“He’s from the lord of the rings movies!” god I love that hahaha

[@suryamgangwal8315]

Well technically and chronologically we met them first in hobbit and then lotr so it should be that 'He's from the hobbit books'

[@in5n80]

Whenever I get a pitch meeting notification. My mind : Oh wow wow wow wow woww.

[@honeyolaribigbe5949]

"River of questionable physics" 🤣🤣🤣

[@kevinjackman4026]

"The river of questionable physics". 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Mixima101]

When I saw this I was like "they're at the town, I guess the story is almost ending. Why do they need the third movie?" and then the next movie and a half was filler

[@tommyakesson8858]

How DARE you call Legolas and The Jumping on Stones of Questionable Physics filler?!

[@dawnmayflower4422]

@@tommyakesson8858 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@inarencommander4663]

Is Helm's Deep filler? Is the battle of Minis Tirith?

[@ourveneratedoverlorde1551]

@@inarencommander4663 Those were real though. Half these movies were fake (I say this knowing that all of it is fantasy, but the original stuff was Tolkien's fantasy, and half of this bullshit wasn't).

[@Radhaugo108]

I love PJ but not killing Smaug at the end was a huge mistake, he literally dies in the first 10 minutes of the next one. Just made no sense to leave us hanging like that.

[@phitsf5475]

But then how will the other two movies between the end of this one and the first 10 minutes of that one happen without this cliffhanger?

[@mikhaelethier6807]

totally agree, i really like the DoS but that ending pissed me off so hard. and waiting 1 year to see smaug die in 10 mins was a big mistake.

[@kingsleycy3450]

The third movie is so insubstantial and empty, so I kind of get his reasoning for saving a major plot point for it. That said, the series really should have been just two films.

[@mateobetancur3262]

I agree, Smaug should have died at the end of the second and the cliffhanger for the third should have been something like "Now everyone will come to claim the mountain"

[@PatricioBenavente]

@@kingsleycy3450 really should have been one movie.

[@MGsubbie]

As someone who loves the LotR trilogy, the Hobbit trilogy physically hurts me.

[@noobbotgaming2173]

As someone who loves the LotR trology, the Hobbit trilogy physically makes me happy.

[@janayawarren1381]

Agreed.

[@stephenolder4552]

@@ohthreefiftyone I loved the book, one of the things I liked about the hobbit movies is that dwarves actually put up more of a fight. The dwarves were competent and put up a fight. I didn't get that impression so much from the book

[@carealoo744]

I hate how the cliffhanger here is resolved in 5 seconds

[@Dora_M_]

I was ranting the whole time when first watched The Hobbit. My friends were having some good laughs on how angry I was. After all these years, I'm still angry.

[@shahnazakhter7756]

You guys should do a pitch meeting on "Interstellar"

[@andrewclay3814]

Yes please

[@raynadeem6761]

Yeah

[@Farhan_Jamil]

Yeah It Would be Tight

[@LONlG]

Would be even better if the entire video had music blaring over their voices, so we could barely hear them talking about it. That ws my theater experience. Half the movie was wishing it was subtitled

[@melonlord7443]

Interstellar sucked

[@writerinrwanda]

The River of Questionable Physics - love it.

[@kingsleycy3450]

Battle of the Five Armies: "And then they fight, they fight, they fight, and then they fight some more. Thorin is going to fight the white orc for 15 minutes. It's going to be like a video game."

[@joebomb1019]

Funny thing is that that particular orc dies in the battle by Moria in the book

[@MyNameIsBucket]

OUR CHILDREN ARE CRYING AND WE HAVE NO HEADS WE DRINK AND WE FIGHT AND WE DIE AND WE DRINK WE FIGHT AND WE DIE AND WE DRINK AND WE FIGHT

[@Nloveru]

And Thorin has gold fever. -Is that going to be hard to cure? No, super easy, barely an inconvenience. He just decides he doesn't have it anymore.

[@brettepierce]

"Won't it be difficult to make an entire three hour movie based on the one final chapter of the novel?" "No sir, it'll be super easy. Barely an inconvenience."

[@jonnnnniej]

@@joebomb1019 I thought Azog doesn't even appear in the Hobbit (the book). Ohh how I wished they made just 2 movies

[@ChrisOnStage2]

I've been waiting for this one and......you DID NOT disappoint!! Can't wait for the final one to wrap it all up!!

[@marioalt9420]

Still haven't gotten around to watching these Hobbit movies.

[@StarWarsomania]

Don't.

[@lugialover09]

The first is mildly tolerable, but they're altogether just not that good. They just so wanted the movies to be the LOTR but prequels, but the original book just isn't set up to be that. LOTR is a cohesive story that flows from one situation to the next with each one having lasting impacts on the next. The Hobbit is fairly episodic with only a few encounters somewhat influencing the future story, but basically every single threat is dealt with in its own episode. So they kept trying to make the movies this super lore-heavy, grandiose story, but that's very much not what The Hobbit is.

[@nomukun1138]

There is far less content in The Hobbit - the book - then in one volume of LotR. You do the math. Watching the Hobbit movies made me question the structures of American movie-making and marketing, lowered my respect for J.R.R. Tolkien, and ruined a friendship, but it was not an enjoyable watching experience.

[@lugialover09]

@@nomukun1138 Why did it lower your respect for Tolkien?

[@aaronseidl5941]

@@nomukun1138 lowered your respect for J.R.R.? I think that should say Jackson 😂

[@geardog24]

"The orcs are actively chasing a super powerful wizard but are scared of a bear?" *Hey bears are bad news. 🐻*

[@unculturedswine5583]

maybe the bear's a secret wizard? something similar to: "yer a damn wizard beary!"

[@dlobelow760]

Hey I get that reference

[@Smol_Butt_Cheeky]

Especially if they are pedos

[@clank1013]

Have you thought about doing a pitch meeting for Gladiator?

[@SR-zp4je]

Yesss! Watched that movie yesterday for the first time since I was a kid, it’s better than I remember but I’d still love a pitch meeting for it.

[@quinnsinclair7028]

ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!

[@jmchez]

@@quinnsinclair7028 Quod in Vita Fascimus In Aeternitate Resonat You know the line.

[@sorrento114]

Huge missed opportunity to say. "Fire can't kill a dragon."

[@jpoteet2]

One of my favorite Pitch Meeting bits is when he says something like "He's from that other movie!"

[@paulcourtemanche3549]

Smaug’s cgi is awesome. It’s also Tight.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

Not when he's covered in gold. He looks 1990s PS1

[@xaiano794]

Yeah but there was way too much cgi. They should have just used a real dragon.

[@Aliens1337]

@@xaiano794 This is sarcasm, but animatronics exist. The original dinos in the classic Jurassic Park movies look better than the new JP because they are mostly animatronics + CGI on top, compared to just only CGI in the new movies.

[@NapoleonicWargaming]

@@xaiano794 absolutely. That's why John Carpenter only used actual interdimensional horrors to make one of the most acclaimed horror movies of all time...

[@bakthihapuarachchi3447]

Smaug is tight. I should know ;)

[@pacoramon9468]

The triology should have been just a single movie.

[@soulslikefan6760]

I could see splitting it in 2, because some things were cool to see given more time. But the entire 3rd movie is about an event that takes up less than a chapter of the book.

[@SamuPuuronen]

@@soulslikefan6760 same. I'm glad the Hobbit films exist but they could've been better.

[@Kingdom_Of_Dreams]

And the entirety of the 3rd film came from just a few pages of the book, so you know it's 98% filler lol

[@chizoioioi]

The more middle earth the better. But it could have been better

[@thomaspappalardo7589]

I think two movies would have been perfect.

[@cronos7366]

“Does he show the arkenstone like an ID and rule?” 😆 maaan

[@chrislanglois8275]

If I remember right smaugs reaction to the giant statue was actually something along the lines of this is a gift thank you so much, if the actually tried to make it properly and told him what they were doing and to wait till it was done b4 he made any judgements about roasting them i think he wouldve actually let them go or at least been too distracted to worry about bilbo, the stone and the ring till he got away and everything wouldve been fine for the dwarves and lake town 🤣 but then they wouldnt have had to kill him and hed have been their side long enough to b too helpful, more gandalf sometimes 🤷‍♂️ lol

[@CaptainMarvelsSon]

The River of Questionable Physics? LOL

[@willh3972]

Dear God that scene was just unbearable

[@brucebaker810]

I think they had to avoid destruction from a whole bunch of heisenbergs, I'm not even sure how many. But it was a LOT. Playing orc whack-a-mohl...

[@danielololo9218]

Hey funny guy, do a Scott Pilgrim vs The World pitch meeting

[@Jpres_]

And then the rest of Edgar Wrights films, cause why not

[@meduimrareberries5888]

Aww that’d be tight!!

[@iwilleatyourleftistass6802]

No. Absolutely not.

[@texasredfox7607]

My 10 year old daughter and I go down pitch meeting rabbit holes for hours...love this!

[@carloporter1373]

"the river of questionable physics" had me dying 😂🤣 and oh "he is a plot orc" so funny... 🤣😂

[@ElusiveEllie]

I wish you had enough time to discuss how the elf/dwarf love story completely waves away the history of elf/dwarf relationships in Middle Earth. Gimli and Legolas were the first time an elf and a dwarf befriended each other in thousands of years, maybe ever, but nope, 60 years ago this dwarf wanted to get into a hot elf lady's pants and she was okay with it for some reason. Also, you know, the actress joining on only if they didn't make her just an object for a romance plot, and then the producers force her to be an object for a romance plot anyway.

[@steyn1775]

The studios who payed for it all wanted a romance plot* Producers can't really say no to that cuz....money

[@suryamgangwal8315]

Tauriel wasn't in the book so canonically gimli and legolas was the first time in a long time an elf and a dwarf became friends

[@ElusiveEllie]

@@suryamgangwal8315 In the book canon, you're correct. Tolkien's creation doesn't have Tauriel. But the movie canon threw Tolkien's designs away for a cheap garbage romance, and it IS the movie canon.

[@suryamgangwal8315]

@@ElusiveEllie yeah that romance was needless. As we already know fili was gonna die. If u read the book before

[@inarencommander4663]

When is it said Gimli and Legolas were the first dwarf/elf friends in thousands of years or ever? (The latter is certainly not true because of the Silmarillion.)

[@koltonsteel]

Me: Is the weekend going to be hard to get through? Pitch Meetings: Actually it's going to be super easy, barely an inconvenience.

[@MrRobzillanj]

“The river of questionable physics” 😂 😂 😂

[@danv7772]

watching your videos is super easy... barely an inconvienience! love em