why am I not surprised I never once heard of this in school
@Koozomec4 жыл бұрын
Just look for Nazino affair or Mao Zetung biography and you will become an anti-communist.
@Sijuste04 жыл бұрын
You need to support your team that's why.
@jpe14 жыл бұрын
Legion are you a millennial? This was standard curriculum back in the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s, so I’m trying to,figure out why so many comments here say “I never knew about this.”
@NatoriousGamePlay4 жыл бұрын
@@jpe1 schools got highjacked by commies
@cypressz4 жыл бұрын
I'm a millennial and I did hear about it, but I'm an old millennial so it may have been phased out after the soviet union fell.
@jakubromanski24394 жыл бұрын
As a Pole, I want to thank you for telling people about the misery of living under communist regime, and I am grateful for sharing the horrible story of our neighbor, Ukraine.
@AndrD14063 жыл бұрын
Przepraszam za rzeź w Wołyniu
@ken.pughatgmail3 жыл бұрын
America is heading into that dark time, may God have mercy on us.
@adrianwiles13 жыл бұрын
It's sad how many idiots want to see this in the USA. They aren't the smartest people 😕
@personaldove3 жыл бұрын
This a tragedy but its not a genocide.
@The_ZeroLine3 жыл бұрын
Most Americans know that Stalin starved millions to death. I learned about the Holodomor specifically in HS in the ‘90s.
@katamarankatamaranovich99864 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this. I am a Ukrainian and I heard some "stories" about that time from older folks. The death is not the biggest tragedy, but rather what hunger does to people. In "what" it turns them. You wouldn't imagine how far some would go in order to survive or to save a loved one. Never let your government take your freedom. Or mother would have to feed one kid with corpse of other.
@ephennell4ever4 жыл бұрын
Touche´! Well said!
@distance77214 жыл бұрын
I love how KZbin thinks they need to provide context on the Holocaust for this video. Wrong war crime, stupid algorithm
@Deathclaw-lh5tl4 жыл бұрын
Different scenario, same pattern.
@gamesmithy4 жыл бұрын
KZbin doesn't acknowledge communist genocides.
@chrisleffler24354 жыл бұрын
well, the NYTimes covered up for both...
@TheNthMouse4 жыл бұрын
It's probably a case of: "Video uses the word 'Holocaust' in the title." EDIT: The above hypothesis has been disproven.
@maxxor-overworldhero67304 жыл бұрын
@@gamesmithy Or the Armenian Genocide, for that matter.
@falsealias20464 жыл бұрын
I saw a capitalist and communist debating at politicon. When the communist said that he wondered why people wouldn’t indulge communism, the capitalist said it was responsible for millions of deaths in Europe alone. The communist then said “Oh here we go !” and rolled his eyes. His apathy to all the death and unwillingness to acknowledge it really stayed with me.
@TH3F4LC0Nx4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I think it would stick with me too if I saw a guy literally rolling his eyes at the mention of millions of people dying! XD
@JAG86914 жыл бұрын
Yes, but remember " You can't build a Global Ommolete without breaking a few Billion Eggs ".
@operleutnant72354 жыл бұрын
Jorge Gomes you sound remarkably like Senator Armstrong (The Main Villian) Of Metal Gear Rising Revengence with the quote “I am making the mother of all omelets Jack! Can’t fret over every egg!”
@VeryProPlayerYesSir11224 жыл бұрын
I thought he was gonna scream"Not true communism, Karl Marx didn't mention millions of death in his manifesto.Reeeeeee"
@krispyboi25194 жыл бұрын
Yes but remember stalin was corrupt and insane and basically opposed the communist manifesto
@MrInternetHermit4 жыл бұрын
"Those who trade freedom for security end up with neither."
@cletushumphrey91634 жыл бұрын
milton friedman
@redseagaming78324 жыл бұрын
You could say freedom has a price as well it must be constantly fought for otherwise it can be taken from you
@MrInternetHermit4 жыл бұрын
@Central Intelligence Agency There is a difference between having order and giving up all rights for a totalitarian state.
@bobleglob1624 жыл бұрын
@Central Intelligence Agency All of those agencies are there to protect government power. Government of any kind is the most proficient enabler of mass death and oppression there is. So yes, get rid of them.
@counterfeit11484 жыл бұрын
@@bluesky4637 The original quote even said "essential liberty" and "a little temporary safety"
@arielyanesalbuerne89144 жыл бұрын
As a person that lived for 25 years in the Fidel Castro murderous regime until I scaped 4 years ago. I just want to say thank you for the work that you all do.
@Garrus19954 жыл бұрын
You got a story to tell, bro. Let the people hear it! Use your voice!
@Daemonussy4 жыл бұрын
Hope you are doing well.
@30cal234 жыл бұрын
hi there i just read this and id like to ask your opinion, what is the cause of communism in USA we can see all the other countries where it failed but still some believe in it. its definitely in education (look up teachers union and a couple of other interesting things like making you sign a NDA to not look at your kids schoolwork or something like that the specifics escape me at this time)
@bambubutk16474 жыл бұрын
@nhà độc tài Yang Wen Li Hello người anh em Việt Nam.
@Kikasitsu4 жыл бұрын
Quick question: What were YOU doing there?
@madsmile7774 жыл бұрын
As Ukrainian I can't thank you enough for covering Holodomor. We learned not to believe commies and russians. Never again.
@MrInternetHermit4 жыл бұрын
There are some people who want to listen, but never get the chance. Thank you for waiting.
@inspectorjavert84434 жыл бұрын
Stay safe man.
@Jarod-vg9wq4 жыл бұрын
My heart goes to Ukraine 🇺🇦 love form Canada, never agian.
@averageleson4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad my family immigrated here when they did, before Stalin.
@jackiekjono4 жыл бұрын
Strangely Ukrainian I think in America, you get a better sense of the realities ofCommunism if you go to a Catholic high school - though I am sure that varied with individual teachers and is less likely now that the Marxists own the Education departments of most universities. A few years ago, a friend who was getting her teaching license took a seminar class called “comparative educational philosophies “ when she got to class, she learned that the educational philosophies being compared were those of Lenin and Mao.
@onlybecca4 жыл бұрын
The new York times and media in general has become too concerned about their agendas rather than reporting truth
@almighty58392 жыл бұрын
Because they support communism
@troybaxter Жыл бұрын
Always have been and always will be. We can just add this whole incident on to the pile of reasons as to why I distrust the media.
@jordansmith15414 жыл бұрын
My grandfather was Ukrainien, thank you for talking about this.
@Dani926703 жыл бұрын
My nana came to NYC from the Ukraine when she was 16. This was just prior to the start of WW1. I wouldn't be here otherwise. I am still outrageously disgusted as all hell that I was not aware of this until perhaps 7 or 8 years ago - yet I was as young as 7 or 8 back in the 70s when I first starting learning of the "Holocaust" and the "evil Nazis". PATHETIC.
@Koozomec4 жыл бұрын
In soviet Russian the lucky ones who Left were Right.
@radiorender71634 жыл бұрын
r/iamhavingastroke
@chrispeter57994 жыл бұрын
You know Yuri Bezmenov?
@12vscience4 жыл бұрын
I am descended from Germans that started a colony called Kautz (Werschinka), near Saratov, that started during the reign of Catherine the Great in 1766. When things were getting bad, some of my family escaped back to Germany in 1904. My part of the family then sailed to USA. Some died during the starvation period in the late 1930's in the Soviet Union. The Soviets gave them a choice to continue farming their private land, or work on a collective. They chose their private land and were punished by authorities by forfeiting their possessions and and were sent to Siberia. In 1961-1964 the Russian Army destroyed the village of Kautz and other similar villages. At about the same time many Germans were returning from Siberia. It is hypothesized it was done to discourage Germans returning to the area. Before the communists took over Russia, Kautz was a self-sufficient village. Currently, most of my relatives live in US, Germany, and Siberia, Russia.
@12vscience4 жыл бұрын
@@chrispeter5799 I have heard of him. The KGB defector. His discussion about ideological subversion is fantastically scary. Especially now that US is showing the late stages of it. kzbin.info/www/bejne/gX3HdaCbrrJ9otU If you know him, you may like Gary Allen: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpnboXx8idCrg80
@chrispeter57994 жыл бұрын
@@12vscience your ancestors story rly got me and thx for the xtra link bro
@radagast72004 жыл бұрын
Walter Duranty was just the start. They got awards from Castro for their obfuscation of the cuban atrocities. They also seem very friendly to China.
@maxxor-overworldhero67304 жыл бұрын
The New York Times also loved Corporal 'Stache.
@777lucifero4 жыл бұрын
It wasn't the start. Pulitzer himself was a democrat party member and activist, a propaganda journalist. That dates to much earlier. Then prizes in his name were of course given to NYT mostly, for propaganda pieces.
@troybaxter Жыл бұрын
Pulitzer has always been a shill and worthless prize, just like the Nobel Peace Prize.
@nathansteinfromarkham71094 жыл бұрын
And I thought the French revolution was when journalism went to hell. This period seems more on the nose.
@Koozomec4 жыл бұрын
Some journalists went on fullmurder mod during this era. They killed inocent people by spreading lies and rumors. It was a sad bloodshed. The brits managed their revolution better than us.
@prasadpawar70274 жыл бұрын
What happened to Journalism in French Revolution?
@ericbunker62424 жыл бұрын
@@prasadpawar7027 research it! Basically the French Revolution had mass murder of anyone who didn't agree with the revolutionaries. Speaking out about their excesses got the guillotine.
@Koozomec4 жыл бұрын
@@prasadpawar7027 look for "la terreur" (Reign of Terror)
@nathansteinfromarkham71094 жыл бұрын
@@prasadpawar7027 Marat and the reign of terror.
@thedoruk63244 жыл бұрын
I would like to remember that there were also the *volga germans* that got decimated by the Soviets
@muricaforever29784 жыл бұрын
My family was part of that group. I'm very glad they left Ukraine before the Revolution.
@carlosbanderas42384 жыл бұрын
@@muricaforever2978 Now your name is muricaForever...
@mumbairay4 жыл бұрын
So were khazakhstanis. The animal soviet confiscated all the animals, which died from disease and over crowding. Human genocide followed.
@marymcelroy61574 жыл бұрын
@@mumbairay And then the Soviet Union screwed the Kazakhs over further with the Semipalatinsk test site-said to be uninhabited past a certain point but populated by nomads.
@theoutsidermark79924 жыл бұрын
@@marymcelroy6157 Also, many of the people from other parts of the USSR were deported to out land - Kazakhstan. As my grandgrandma said, there were many people dying from hunger, and they helped them by bringing them any type of a food. I won't ever forget these stories and history of my people.
@УрошКалиниченко4 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone acknowledges the plight of Ukraine! I grew up in a immigrant community in Pennsylvania made of Ukrainains and Poles, and I grew up hearing the stories of persecution, starvation, and the atrocities that happened. And now, I see people praising him, people who refuse to see what happened to them, And all the people that never made it Home again, where us Ukrainain Catholics had our Religion banned due to suspected treason for Rome, And Famines Stalin deliberately caused to us. It fills me with anger, and I hate Those who Continue Acting like nothing happened. You do good work here.
@AxmedSuper4 жыл бұрын
Hello from Ukraine. And I fully agree with you.
@gamesmithy4 жыл бұрын
But do you vote Democrat?
@УрошКалиниченко4 жыл бұрын
@@gamesmithy - No, of course not! People like AOC,and Bernie Sanders are propogating Socialism right now,why would I continuously vote for the party that supports their campaigns?? That, and I miss the 2020 election by only three months, so I can't really vote yet. :(
@GinHindew1104 жыл бұрын
i would avoid mentioning catholicism in this themes because they also sided with dictatorships whenever they could, i they were chased out its merely because the state considered them competition, not enemies
@kllk12ful4 жыл бұрын
As a Latvian who lost family members to Stalin I totally understand what Ukraine and Poland endured as the Baltics suffered horrifically as well under Stalin's iron fist
@itsthenewsouth4 жыл бұрын
Whoever made and released this movie has a brass pair in this current political & cultural climate.
@towelie59974 жыл бұрын
Absolutely, thats a Mr. Jones himself. Mad respect.
@garrettsattem47994 жыл бұрын
Well, it was directed by a Ukrainian. If anyone knows a thing or two about the evils of Stalin’s regime and left wing authoritarianism in general, it would be them.
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy3 жыл бұрын
@@garrettsattem4799 And the Georgians. Remember Tbilisi(Tiflis) April 9th 1989.
@JohnSmith-zs9vr3 жыл бұрын
@@garrettsattem4799 The movie's director is a Pole. And the movie discreetly showed what will be the western attitude towards Poland. During one of the first scenes Jones (at that time still interested in communism) tries to warn the british government "Germany will surely attack Poland, let's ally the Soviets". And from now on Poland isn't mentioned at all. Jones' attitude is basically "Let's just already assume that there's no Poland, all hail Stalin".
@garrettsattem47993 жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-zs9vr A polish director? Huh, I remember reading somewhere that he was Ukrainian. Oh well.
@THEALIENCOW4 жыл бұрын
Our great grandparent's farm was taken when my grandfather was about 8 years old. His older brother spoke out about the injustice, and was taken away in the night, never to be heard from again. Thank you for recognizing this story. I appreciate you encouraging us all to be people of integrity.
@JD-qt2yi2 жыл бұрын
To similar to my great grandfather in Ukraine from what my grandmother told me. He was a prominent farmer in his town and had many employees, while the town was starving he did his best to hoard grain in a secret location from the communist to feed the town only to be ratted out. My grandmother told me her and the women were forced to watch as my great grandfathers employees were all subject to firing squad and my great grandfather was taken to Moscow (The gulag) never to be seen again.
@ryleynadhir46852 жыл бұрын
@@JD-qt2yi You've shared your side of the story, now share the truth. From what you wrote alone, it's clear that your great grandfather cared more for profit for himself than actually helping people. It's sad, but during a famine, he put greed ahead of empathy
@jordanthomas43793 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, this is a part of history that unfortunately, almost no one has heard of, and yet is so important. These “out of frame” videos should be shown in schools.
@daveanderson38054 жыл бұрын
I have heard of the holodomor, but I never heard about Gareth Jones Thanks for uploading his story It is important that people like him are remembered
@r4nasc0rpli3 жыл бұрын
Just finished watching the film. I haven't watched something that's pissed me off so much I a while. The fact that they've never revoked Durarty's Pulitzer is a disgrace and should be brought up when anyone has the gaul to pretend the New York Times is some bastion of truth.
@anthonycontarino47132 жыл бұрын
The NYTS is the BASTARD of truth
@Johnconno2 жыл бұрын
Durante.
@robertortiz-wilson15882 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@JA-oo9qp10 ай бұрын
Because it’s all fake. They create the narrative and they give themselves awards for doing it. Imagine believing people gain things based on merit and hard work.
@NoobishFool14 жыл бұрын
7:05 Orwell gave the best response to that quote: "Well, where's your Omelet?"
@12vscience4 жыл бұрын
Damn!!! Durante is going to need aloe vera for that burn.
@DonVigaDeFierro3 жыл бұрын
"B-BuT oRwElL wUz A sOcIaLiSt!!"
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy3 жыл бұрын
The pigs of Animal Farm : ''we ate it.''
@tyaz65563 жыл бұрын
@@DonVigaDeFierro He was though. 1984 isnt the only novel orwell has written, yknow. I reccomend reading homage to catalonia, it speaks of his experiences with the anarchist rebels of Spain. (Just a reminder that marxism-leninism isnt the only form of socialism.)
@aiocafea3 жыл бұрын
what do you mean???? that the communist and socialists and US social democrats are not the same???? in all fairness, it is often difficult to see the differences in viewpoints which are too different to you
@BigBroTejano4 жыл бұрын
I find it funny that KZbin has a “context” notice on this video... linking to a Wikipedia article about the Holocaust... even though this video is about the Holodomor.
@alpw12344 жыл бұрын
victim hierarchy? certain lives matter more than other lives.
@nbr1rckr3 жыл бұрын
Lol KZbin deleted my comment :c
@SkidMan_Jurej3 жыл бұрын
Like they're literally saying "hey! Don't focus on what the video is talking about. Focus on this, instead!"
@jeptoungrit90003 жыл бұрын
@@alpw1234 Certain Holocausts matter more than others.
@silvermediastudio2 жыл бұрын
They cover it up just like NYT did. Communists all.
@stoner00464 жыл бұрын
While studying for my masters in Russian history, one book I was assigned was "Red Famine" by Anne Applebaum. I found this to be a very informative work on the Holodomor. I look forward to viewing this movie.
@cpt.quadras73794 жыл бұрын
As a descendant of the Ukrainian people, I thank you. Not many indulge in the learning of other countries' histories, even fewer learn about the darker ones. It warms my heart that some people pay heed to the lessons that history teaches us.
@wormswithteeth3 жыл бұрын
This was the last film I saw before lockdown. Had no idea it was a Welsh journalist who blew the lid on this. It's a good film and I encourage you to watch it.
@khakimzhanmiras4 жыл бұрын
Also there was the Goloshchekin Genocide in 1930-1933. An artificial famine that wiped out nearly 40% of ethnic Kazakhs.
@FEEonline4 жыл бұрын
There's an almost endless amount of these kinds of atrocities coming from 20th century communism :(
@khakimzhanmiras4 жыл бұрын
Foundation for Economic Education it still hasn’t been recognized as a legit genocide by the UN, I believe. not many know about the forced deportations of ethnic minorities either: Koreans, Chechens, the Karachays etc.
@khakimzhanmiras4 жыл бұрын
Foundation for Economic Education also please do one about anti-Semitism in the Soviet Union
@FriendlyCroock4 жыл бұрын
Well as a romanian I know very well about the "death canal" massacre that my grandfather almost fell victim to. It wasn't just famine in the death canal.
@12vscience4 жыл бұрын
I am descended from Germans that started a colony called Kautz (Werschinka), near Saratov, that started during the reign of Catherine the Great in 1766. When things were getting bad, some of my family escaped back to Germany in 1904. My part of the family then sailed to USA. Some died during the starvation period in the late 1930's in the Soviet Union. The Soviets gave them a choice to continue farming their private land, or work on a collective. They chose their private land and were punished by authorities by forfeiting their possessions and and were sent to Siberia. In 1961-1964 the Russian Army destroyed the village of Kautz and other similar villages. At about the same time many Germans were returning from Siberia. It is hypothesized it was done to discourage Germans returning to the area. Before the communists took over Russia, Kautz was a self-sufficient village. Currently, most of my relatives live in US, Germany, and Siberia, Russia.
@grimwaltzman4 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather never threw away any food, he ate everything, even if it was quite rotten or otherwise spoiled. My great grandmother would have panic attacks if there were no at least one sack each of mallet and salt in the house. They both survived 32-33. Most of their families didn't. If only this movie would`ve been made earlier. Maybe then i would see less underage communists coming up with dozens of poor excuses for mass murder that happened.
@invisibletosociety83383 жыл бұрын
They'll just say that it wasn't done right and repeat the same madness even going as far as to double down. I'm not sure if they just have broken minds or are simply evil.
@sbragan5lg76i2 жыл бұрын
@@invisibletosociety8338 well most pro commies have behavioral/psychological issues. Generally it comes from a deep feeling of insecurity. The equalization of everyone in a subconscious way, helps them to comfort themselves. The group think and conformity is a reflection of a deep need for validation. Communism can not take root in a healthy society.
@invisibletosociety83382 жыл бұрын
@@sbragan5lg76i that makes sense, it's very sad and frightening how weak they really are.
@theburnhams29252 жыл бұрын
@@invisibletosociety8338 There's a difference....?
@krissikofski10 ай бұрын
Reminds me of my great-grandfather, who also survived. He was just a little child who saw his toddler brother, his friends, and his grandparents die a horrible death. When he was older his biggest rule was that the children always eat first, something he learned from his grandparents who had starved because they had given all their food to the children. I think the only reason he survived was because his family had connections to a family of jews who knew how to gather for mushrooms and to prepare them. It's also really interesting how this still lingers in our family, even though it's so long ago. My mother always has to have a lot of extra reserves of food or she will get anxious. Woops I've written more here than I had originally planned, It's just something that's really important to me and my family.
@IoEstasCedonta4 жыл бұрын
One line that stuck with me was "Stalin is not the man you think he is." It really pulls you into the context, out of the omniscient modern view.
@ammoiscurrency57063 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the Holodomor brought up. Explaining the severity of it has lead to people all but denying it "if it was really that bad why haven't I heard of it" for me the worst part is when people then refuse to look into it themselves and wonder how people deny the Germans Holocaust.
@raedwulf614 жыл бұрын
I read a book about Stalin back in the mid-70s when I was in junior high school. The book had this in it. It was horrifying.
@tp12674 жыл бұрын
Being welsh this film made me proud that someone from my country went out and exposed the famine. It also annoys me so many people from wales are socialists/communist and they act like the ideology is what we need to be prosperous again. When the film was coming out I was hoping it would become mainstream and it would show the people of wales communism was and is not the answer. What gets to me even more is that no one in wales knows about this man he’s forgotten there’s a small sign mentioning him in Cardiff that’s it. The reason this happened is because the welsh government is left leaning and won’t criticise the ideology the secretly support.
@adventussaxonum4484 жыл бұрын
I believe that there's a plaque in Aberystwyth as well. Both he and Malcolm Muggeridge were awarded the Ukrainian Order of Freedom posthumously. I had never realised that Muggeridge had sent reports from the USSR, in the same way as Jones, in 1932-33, highlighting the situation. I had always seen him as a rather pompous old conservative, opposed to The Life of Brian. I never knew that he had gone to the USSR as a communist sympathiser and the experience had turned him into a more right wing thinker.
@anna-if8fi3 жыл бұрын
most people who are socialists or communists haven't even worked a day in their life and are under 18 once they work they learn
@taffyducks5443 жыл бұрын
I agree, but the right don't even want Wales to exist seperate from England, culturally or politically. So which is worse?! I'd take a little corruption and Wales existing well into the future, than being absorbed into England, with all its culture and history being passed of as English. The Mabinogi has already been used for the basis of Lord of the Rings. King Arthur as an English kings, so on and so on.
@alexandrajohnson6180 Жыл бұрын
Socialism and communism aren't the same thing. Wales is also a capitalist country
@steviewonder5803 жыл бұрын
I'm so thankful I've had the initiative to learn the important history schools will never teach us. I'm also thankful for the content creators like you, who've made me see the world in a more accurate way as a result.
@sof86704 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this, I'm Ukrainian and as you can guess it's quite a painful topic to be forgotten by the rest of the world
@joshuamueller32064 жыл бұрын
Oh, so we can thank Duranty for that saying. I heard it came from an American supporter of communism, but never realized it was someone with that much influence.
@12vscience4 жыл бұрын
Apparently Orwell replied: "So where's your omelet?"
@Vorpal_Wit4 жыл бұрын
Why does every single movie or book in English about anything related to the Soviet Union (or even Russia) have to do the stupid mirrored "R"? WHY!? Its not the equivalent of a cyrylic "R" - its pronounced Ya. Thats right, Mя. Jones is therefore pronouce M'ya Jones - stupid right?
@RavenStorm3324 жыл бұрын
it's mostly because it the most recognizable thing about the Russian alphabet and it's because hollywood elites think that people aren't smart enough to know a movie is set in Russia i they don't include it
@chosenofkhorne29514 жыл бұрын
Well that reality but it could be worse it could be a film that not even talk bad about communism and talks how bad capitalism is
@theradioactiveplayer34614 жыл бұрын
it's instantly recognisable - the same way Omega is often used for films detailing the exploits of Greek heroes, or the Cross/Jesus when discussing topics related to Christianity
@RadioChief524 жыл бұрын
Interesting that a backwards "R" was your one takeaway from this entire sad video.
@carlosbanderas42384 жыл бұрын
Isn't He a Mayor?!
@secretlyskeletor4 жыл бұрын
I can’t believe I forgot about that Captain America quote towards the end, now I can’t think of a more suitable quote that fits our current relationship with the media. As someone who studies history and intends to go into higher level education as an educator, lessons like these are so important to keep in mind. Excellent analysis here and I’ll definitely have to check out the film!
@Halkin854 жыл бұрын
This was truly brilliant. As a person from Hong Kong with a Welsh Grandfather (Mr Jones was also a Welsh boy) this story really resonated with me. Keep up the good work.
@TheBuenaventura934 жыл бұрын
Hi Sean, excellent work, as always. I just wanna ask: Can you make an Out Of Frame video about Richard Jewell and the dangers of the media manipulation and institutionalized corruption within Law Enforcement? I think there's a lot of topics you can cover with that movie (witch I loved BTW) Greetings from Venezuela.
@TH3F4LC0Nx4 жыл бұрын
Venezuela? I guess you may have witnessed firsthand how horribly wrong socialism inevitably always goes.
@TheBuenaventura934 жыл бұрын
@@TH3F4LC0Nx Of course I have. And I wil never defend the bastards who destroyed my country with an evil leftist ideology like socialism is. I dont buy that propaganda that everything is the US fault.
@FEEonline4 жыл бұрын
I actually haven't watched it yet. Though it might give me an excuse to talk about another movie I've wanted to bring into a video for a long time: The Thin Blue Line.
@TH3F4LC0Nx4 жыл бұрын
@@TheBuenaventura93 I hope you all get that new president you were pushing for; maybe Venezuela can go back to the way it was. You have my sympathy. It's not easy to watch the country you love go down the toilet. It's happening right now in America. :(
@Hego_Damassk_The_Wise Жыл бұрын
im greek and my history teacher is a hardcore communist, when i asked him about holodomor, he just said it is capitalistic propaganta and never happened, he also said that all the photographs were from america during the great depression
@Hego_Damassk_The_Wise Жыл бұрын
he also said to a ukrainian kid that came to escape the war that it didnt happen
@jpe14 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand all the “I never learned about this in school” comments. It was standard curriculum back in the 60’s, 70’s, and 80’s; has something changed?
@TheNthMouse4 жыл бұрын
@John Early - Seriously?
@viperstriker47284 жыл бұрын
Never heard the word Holodomor before but did learn about it in school, of course I was home schooled. Though I wouldn't assume it isn't in standard curriculum just because people don't remember hearing about it. I have a friend that didn't know who the US fought in the revolution and I know that was covered.
@Inkling7774 жыл бұрын
I went through high school in the first half of the 1960s and never heard even a whisper about this.
@thesneakymemedealer50714 жыл бұрын
fuck man even i knew that stalin intentionally starved millions. then again i learned that outside of school so....
@ninjaslash52_984 жыл бұрын
Finished class of 2017 never heard about this we only learned about what Stalin dude during and after the war
@justinecamille74264 жыл бұрын
I wish we were taught about the Holodomor in US public school. I remember my high school history classes briefly covering the USSR, while having laser-focus on WW1 and WW2 and Germany. Why don't we talk about the evils of communism? Why am I only learning about it in my twenties?
@alexdunphy37164 жыл бұрын
Because those who commited most of the Soviet crimes are of the same group which drives the academic and media narrative in the us
@robertortiz-wilson15884 жыл бұрын
Full government-controlled public schools in the US (Actually think in every country,but I can only speak as an American) should go back to being the minority. Private and Charter schools MUST become the common majority. This way Parents Just Don't blindly throw their kids interpublic indoctrination, but instead have a choice of where to send their children that would be the best. Expense is the main issue of course, but I think if they were more numerous the prices would go down.
@underarmbowlingincidentof19813 жыл бұрын
@@alexdunphy3716 You are telling me that the US the people who fought globally against communism and socialism in all aspects. You are telling me that these people are hiding the evils of communism? Why the fuck would they? There was a little thing called the cold war. Please tell me one reason why the US would hide this crime against humanity.
@personaldove3 жыл бұрын
@Hidden Aspects There is no Holodomor. Just a famine.
@wlhlmbrkn54312 жыл бұрын
@@personaldove We don't listen to porn addicted anime commies.
@thestoryman57063 жыл бұрын
It's really cool to see this being talked about since my great grandfather almost lost his life in Ukraine along with his whole family under Stalin
@forestpepper36212 жыл бұрын
Three related movies that you might watch along with "Mr. Jones" (2019), are "Reds" (1981), "The Death of Stalin" (2017), and "Dr. Zhivago" (1965). "Reds" is also about an American journalist covering Stalin's Russia. "The Death of Stalin" takes a look at Stalin's tyrannical rule, offering some insight into the reasons behind the mass starvation in Ukraine. "Dr. Zhivago" is a broader historical drama portraying the transition from Tsarist Russia into Communist Russia, from a civilian perspective.
@Sousabird4 жыл бұрын
I hadn't heard the term Holodomor until two years ago. But I was aware of it.
@Deathclaw-lh5tl4 жыл бұрын
I have not heard it until _now_.
@FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog4 жыл бұрын
6:11 I gotta disagree with you there. I fear the man who ignores crimes against humanity for his own hedonistic pleasures less than I fear the man who looks at those crimes against humanity and says "yeh, this is what I believe in. This is good, this will bring about an Utopian society".
@FEEonline4 жыл бұрын
Fear is perhaps a different issue, but the reason I'm generally less concerned about the latter is because committed communists are rare and almost always tell you exactly what they believe. The people who just casually sit by and accept totalitarian horrors without challenge are far greater in number and they mostly rationalize away their actions.
@badgeoshame3894 жыл бұрын
But they ultimately are the ones who allow these things to happen and lie to the people about what happens in countries ran like this. That garners support for communism, socialism, and leads many down the ugly path those terrible leaders take advantage of. Silence or active suppression is much scarier because even if there is truth shown, we've been so conditioned to believe what the others tell us that we write them off as "conspiracy theorists". It's horrible.
@davidlewis67284 жыл бұрын
@@FEEonline 1) committed communists are irrational, and will happily murder millions of people for their ideology, the people who follow their pleasures have no such loyalties, and will abandon ship as soon as the going gets tough. 2) the committed communists seem to know how to manipulate human psychology. they seem far greater in numbers than they may actually be, or perhaps it is even more than it seems, they attach themselves to the media, to our schools, and to our politics like a tumor, honestly, politics was already a tumor in my opinion. 3) the committed communists have a far greater effect on the world than the boot lickers, they are the ones who start the revolution, they are the ones who order people to do the killings, and they are the ones who justify their own atrocities after the fact, hoping to start again some time later. without the ideologues, there would have never been a holodomor, or a holocaust at all. perhaps it is irrational to fear the committed communists more than the pleasure seeking hypocrite, in much the same way that one might fear terrorists more than car accidents, but the likelihood of a bad thing happening isn't the only thing that people consider, how bad the thing is often plays a far greater role in what people fear more.
@rexstuff46554 жыл бұрын
Perhaps. Like you, I might fear the latter more, but it is the former that I despise.
@FirefoxisredExplorerisblueGoog4 жыл бұрын
@@FEEonline I hadn't quite looked at it from that perspective but you raise a good point.
@donkeydefense4 жыл бұрын
They won't show the inevitable end of their political beliefs
@jamie24873 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for posting this, it makes me sick how the world just forgot
@teamground02294 жыл бұрын
I first learned of the Holodomor from a bumper sticker at age 57. A little digging on line and found out more. Chillingly contemporary story. I want to live a peaceful life, do my business and take care of my disabled wife. But there are forces at work in America that are leading down the path of Gareth Jones' world.
@garyneilson30756 ай бұрын
"make sure of all things, hold fast to what is fine"! (1Thess.5 :21, the Bible) hard times ahead, so hold fast!
@Dustbinlid14 жыл бұрын
But that wasn't "real communism".
@silvussol89664 жыл бұрын
“It’ll work for sure when we do it!” - every communist ever, including all the dead ones
@DonVigaDeFierro3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those weren't "real atrocities" either, I bet.
@martinhorvath41173 жыл бұрын
@@silvussol8966 Communism cannot work because it has 2 options : - a.) the person believes in communism - b.) the person doesn't believe in communism now communism, works on the principle that everyone has an integral part in society. what do you do with the one who doesn't believe in a communalistic nature of humans? deport? lenin was deported... and he came back execute? well... yes. since this effect doesn't happen in a democracy(you work for your own shit, not for the collective) it doesn't have to deal with radical ideologies in normal/peace times. Communism would only work if the Human race was 1 big communistic hivemind. but we aren't... sooo.
@AndrD14063 жыл бұрын
because communism is an illusion
@knightninja67874 жыл бұрын
Dammit! Another movie I’m going to have to watch before watching your video. My life is so difficult
@sweetdave5403 жыл бұрын
Why am I not surprised that this film didn't become popular.
@timothyszocinski49572 жыл бұрын
How true…..
@lieutenantflyboy4 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for the video! This movie really was difficult to watch, those scenes in the villages made me sit right back and freeze on how terrifying they were. Thinking of showing my Dad’s friend this, she’s Ukrainian and might have some interesting takes to add.
@Hypnotically_Caucasian2 жыл бұрын
"We defeated the wrong enemy" -General Patton
@jonathanastro25314 жыл бұрын
This video inspired me to write my senior research paper on the Holodomor so thanks for this amazing video inspiring me
@johnvannewhouse4 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary and review of the film. The thing that I most loved about this film is the use of Orwell as an allegory for those intelligent enough to see what Stalin and communism were all about. OF course, Mr Jones sees it BRUTALLY with his own eyes, and Orwell saw it firsthand in the Spanish Civil War. AND BOTH WEREN'T BELIEVED or had active disinformation campaigns against what they saw. And both have been massively vindicated by history. As Orwell wrote (and as relevant as ever): "This kind of thing is frightening to me, because it often gives me the feeling that the very concept of objective reality is fading out of the world. After all, the chances are that those lies, or at any rate similar lies, will pass into history....The implied objective of this line of thought is a nightmare world in which the Leader, or some ruling clique, controls not only the future but the past, if the Leader says of such-and-such an event , "It never happened" - well, it never happened. And if he says that two and two are five - well, two and two are five." And therein you see the looming shadow of why he had to write "1984"......
@clup31362 жыл бұрын
Thank you for bringing this to the public
@lidiiabilyk1429 Жыл бұрын
I’m Ukrainian. Thank you for talking about it. It is very important for us. My family has survived but millions are not. My grand grand grand father was helping one boy, his neighbour, during Holodomor. From time to time my grandfather was giving some food for a boy. But one day he couldn’t find him anymore. When my grandfather entered boy’s house, where he used to live with his mother, grandfather did not find a boy, but boy’s mother was cooking meat. She lose her mind from hunger and eat her son. Imagine, how many stories we still don’t know. Because if you talk about it, you might be killed by government. But my grandfather told his kids this story. That’s how I know it. I really hope that USA will recognise Holodomor like genocide of Ukrainians!
@nat3e1744 жыл бұрын
Whenever I watch your videos it brings a smile to my face.
@lniko3334 жыл бұрын
Thank you for covering this. As a pole being educated about soviet atrocities seems like a given, although I feel as if this isn't taught enough in countries that didnt experience soviet attrocities and the soviets are often portrayed as "good guys".
@tyttiMK2 жыл бұрын
The same in Finland, and yes, I agree, the West doesn't seem to care too much.
@thomassavidge79914 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making these videos. They are a breath of fresh air in today's news cycle.
@scorpio65874 жыл бұрын
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." -- George Santayana
@SamaritanPrime3 жыл бұрын
Casual Historian has a three-part series called "Conspiracy of Silence" that goes into more detail about the Holodomor, the effort to cover it up, and the later efforts to drag that horrible event into the light. Also, Gareth Jones was about as close to Clark Kent that we're ever likely to get.
@Nuffsaid223 жыл бұрын
Incredibly informative and thought-provoking as always. Thanks for the great video
@notalmostfamous97733 жыл бұрын
I remember reading about this in a Thomas Sowell book. Never forgot it.
@citezensane44134 жыл бұрын
Incredibly impressed every time I watch one of your videos. Great job. I happened to see the movie so I know you did an accurate job as well. Everyone should see the film.
@ShakaCthulu Жыл бұрын
In a just world, Duranty’s pulitzer would be revoked and posthumously awarded to Gareth Jones, who ultimately gave his life for reporting the truth.
@WORLD8NSH5KNIGHT14 жыл бұрын
I am training as a freelance journalist. Courageous journalists like Gareth Jones are an inspiration.
@andreasspenst77982 жыл бұрын
Is this film available in Germany too ?
@mathieucote-desjardins74274 жыл бұрын
Always blown away by the relevancy and quality of these video! Hope you do one on Red Son (Superman).
@anunknownentity16374 жыл бұрын
People keep telling me that Capitalism has killed billions more than Communism, I was wondering if this held any water.
@SommersetStriker4 жыл бұрын
It doesn't. Communism has killed more people than nearly anything short of natural disasters and plagues.
@atmosrex71264 жыл бұрын
I'm a capitalist. Any time Capitalism kills, it's due to the same reason Communism spreads: Internationalism All the countries where capitalism is killing is the same ones where the country's leader doesn't love his country, doesn't seek the greater prosperity of his country, and will just seek short term wealth sucking off of richer countries than loving his own country and national identity or longing it to be independent and strong on its own. This short term thinking is anathema to the very reason capitalism is so effective and liberating as explained by the Austrian School. Free markets and private property are mandatory, foremost, but equally is loving your nation and seeking what is best for it is just as important. Which is why countries shouldn't be shelling out for a fascistic country like China for example. Should some extra profit really outweigh the soul and pride of your nation which will grant you wealth both monetary and spiritual?
@yaelthesnail4 жыл бұрын
The people who say this attribute every bad thing done by any person under a system that wasn't communism or socialism to "capitalism".
@TH3F4LC0Nx4 жыл бұрын
That is demonstrably false. Communism and Marxist thought have killed more people than the Black Death and the Third Reich combined. Capitalism can never kill as many people as communism, because capitalism is about keeping the power in the hands of the individual. Is it even necessary to say that an individual can't kill as many people as a government? I guess maybe you could chalk up something like the Johnson County Range Wars as "capitalist killing", but when you measure that against something like what the video is talking about, it pales by comparison.
@chronosx74 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a real argument for it. Because in thinking of "how" I only come up with Crime and maybe Corruption which I'd say are not things Communism does not solve but actually exacerbates.
@hymgg4 жыл бұрын
thanks for the work, subscribed
@TAI-lr5vr4 жыл бұрын
Do Mao Zedong as well too. Many people overlook his utterly disastrous 'Great Leap Forward' that caused even more Deaths by Hunger.
@admri77773 жыл бұрын
This is such an important story for the present state of media and government narratives. While the circumstances are clearly different, the concepts are so similar when it comes to critical thinking and encouraging constructive dialogue that facilitates growth as a society.
@ВіталійЛуцан4 жыл бұрын
Vyacheslav Chornovil. My school is named after him, and i have since moved on to university. Why does he matter, why name school after him? He is a journalist. While under stalin Ukraine suffered literal genocide, the time has passed. It was not forgotten nor forgiven, but regime keeps itself above by denying you escape. It tries to tell you all is well, that you prosper - and tell the world you prosper. But that is silly with naught to back it up . The Berlin wall has long fallen. But ussr could not affrd accepting it's defeat. So it deflagrated, and among the many things that happened we would break away (And so would Chechnya). Salvation story? Not at all. . Vyacheslav Chornovil was a journalist at that lovely time of early independence. Of exposing the truth of what passed and what is. But people are merely human. Socium is highly personal, it's far more about the families and connection than we want to admit. When one proposes to overthrow the governments they forget how much is tied to names, connections and families. . His expose would be unbearable, and even calamitous for those that wish to conserve what they have. Even if earned by others' blood. Even if they need to do so again. On a trip to Kyiv, an ambush was set for him - KamAz truck with a suicide driver. The paperwork would be oh so conveniently never to be found relating truck and man, of which little remained to tell the tale. . Naming school after him was a PR trick, to a degree. But done by conscientious people. I was in luck to be taught by one of them, my english teacher in fact - so i learned English, a language in which i have more access to wider gamut of press. So i learned of the perils of journalism... And how important it is to know. . I was born in 1999. Same year as First Chechen war... A bloody conflict in which our troops mustered a volunteer force... A conflict that made many journalists enemy of russian throne for telling about the horrors that are burned bodies of men, women and children on blasted into ruin streets. For what? For wanting independence in their little corner of the world . Wikipedia's article on first and second chechen wars is by no means a complete picture, nor can you believe it unbiased. But they convey the jist of it, russia exists by beating cultures and nations into submission. Even as we speak. In 2019 a peaceful protest to have a pointless choice of picking something akin to moscow town mayor (Which has far less of a role on governing and managing finance, mind you) lead to people being abducted into buses and driven away, physically beaten for wanting the choiice not issued by government . My eyes are not blind to current war, a very similar attempt to "reclaim". I'm lucky to be on the other side of the country. I'm lucky my town is this close to Europe, and our government cooperates with it. I'm lucky to have been taught about Vyacheslav Chornovil - that's why i care about politics and journalism. It plays a bit with my natural multi-facet curiosity that made me learn about economics despite being a programmer. . There's more on topic than i can tell. There's no movie on Vyacheslav Chornovil to speak about these. Andi could go on about what i read from russian (Exclusively state-owned) mass-media. I live in a country with foreign (russian) meme culture influence changing how children, and even grown people think. In a great example of a country that knowing your language and history matters. . Wiki is by no means exhaustive. But it provides sufficient overview to understand historic context. Finding independent news outlets is far easier in internet. With this comment i don't mourn the many deaths for freedom. With this comment i celebrate that truth is harder than ever to suppres. And express my wish it only continues to proliferate . There are still many challenges. Not the least of which are political bias, unfair coverage, and indeed, the persevering human networks of ambition. But you can learn about them. You can tell others why it matters to you. You can seek more equitable tomorrow. . In celebration of free speech. Of language. And knowledge -V
@ВіталійЛуцан4 жыл бұрын
Well that sent me on a ride. Thank you for bringing up the history people should learn from and objective facts in the face of so much ignorance. May it provide some food for thought and express my gratitude for covering China and Middle eastern situation - i lacked context on them massively in recent history beyond post-ww2 British Borders mess-up and passing knowledge that there was in fact a democracy in china In celebration of free speech, language and knowledge, indeed
@susanray40594 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that comment. You have that spark of intellectual curiosity that has served you well. Bravo! I found the majority of these comments left me saddened at the pitiful state knowledge most ppl seem to possess. Yours was a breath of fresh air and realism.
@ВіталійЛуцан4 жыл бұрын
@@susanray4059 You are always welcome, and glad that the few times i speak do count! . Thank you for looking out into the abyss that is comments section and matching me in curiosity to not be scared off by text-wall
@TarlanT3 жыл бұрын
Not only on Ukraine. But also In Kazakhstan. Kazakhs lost 40% of their population.
@EternalChairmanDev2 жыл бұрын
Holodomor denial should carry the death penalty
@hygher3 жыл бұрын
You know what sucks, getting an unskipable ad in the middle of an emotional ending
@mathewreckamp91224 жыл бұрын
There's a book called Unfreedom of The Press that goes into much more detail.
@kumingo4 жыл бұрын
Great book from levin.
@valtocalo4 жыл бұрын
The thoughtful stoic presentation only makes the message more compelling. Disheartening, frightening, horrific what humans are capable of. But the spirit of Mr. Jones is redeeming. Makes me rethink how I look at the current issues, definitely an eye opener. I need to share this to my friends and ask them to pass it on.
@schwarzerregen93384 жыл бұрын
just keep in mind there are woke millennial out there who worship Stalin Unironically
@johnschiznoli71683 жыл бұрын
I love Stalin
@solkoselig36864 жыл бұрын
When I realized you will be talking about Holodomor my stomach twisted... Thank you for talking about this
@TroubadourChannel4 жыл бұрын
WOOH! I just watched this last night. We must have the same source :)
@testaccount41914 жыл бұрын
FBI OPEN UP
@jarrod58543 жыл бұрын
ive never heard someone speak and cause so much emotion, every video you post is memorable
@venombug74764 жыл бұрын
The ending actually made me question my own morality, how far am I really willing to take it.
@nehajoshi77824 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this... Keep up the good work
@WhovianRoxas4 жыл бұрын
I didn't even know about this movie until I saw this video. Went and saw the movie immediately after watching this and it was really good. Nice to see a film showcase some of the, sadly, lesser known horrors in the past and for showing was true journalism should be.
@flagflow12324 жыл бұрын
Besides holodomor, the truth about the Red Terror wasn't even known to the public until 1991 when the old soviet documents were released to the public. It revealed that since it's conception in 1917, the Soviet Union has been committing massive genocides on it's own people. The first one came in 1918 when, due to starvation and unemployment caused by the revolution, Lenin ordered several million people to be eliminated or sent to gulags. These genocides went on until 1952. Not many people know that the first communist country was literally running on genocide.
@stanislausklim77944 жыл бұрын
In school, we did all this stuff about the holocaust and how bad Hitler was. While I agree with it obviously, I'm disappointed. We never really talked about holodomor. At best, all that was talk about concerning it was that there was a famine in Ukraine at the time. In high school, we did have a chapter about Stalin's rule, but it just went over the general, like totalitarianism and stuff. Didn't really talk much about holodomor.
@troybaxter Жыл бұрын
There are other tragedies we are very rarely if ever talked about. Holodomor, the Armenian/Greek Genocide, the Cambodian Killing Fields, etc. It's easier to pin the blame on the Germans and the Americans (in the case of the Trail of Tears) than it is to pin any blame on these communist "utopias". The longer I live and the more I see the media react to tragedies being exposed while they suppress it (all these genocides plus downplaying the child sex trade), the more I realize just how evil and corrupt the world is. I, for one, can never believe in the lie that we can make Heaven on Earth. Not while there are demons and devils running around openly.
@tkaeu4 ай бұрын
Excellent review!
@kyleseageruberalles22223 жыл бұрын
I never knew about this, thank you. I knew people were starved because of Stalin but not to this extent.
@thomasrohn10213 жыл бұрын
My exwife's grandmother survived 2 years in the worst Siberian gulag. She even survived cannibal island.
@linstough3 жыл бұрын
Cannibal island sounds fucked up
@nhmooytis70584 жыл бұрын
Most Americans know zip about their own history, and couldn’t find the Ukraine on a map with a gun to their head.
@nhmooytis70584 жыл бұрын
weißer Ritter you’re not kidding. I’m 68 and meet kids with degrees from ‘top’ colleges who are less well educated than I and my classmates were in sixth grade.
@kasaundrawaldroupe55092 жыл бұрын
Both of my grandparents on my dad's side lived through this. My great grandfather was a member of the communist party who played a role in the holomodor. My grandfather was a communist until his last day on earth. My grandfather believed to his dying day that the holomodor was necessary to modernize Ukraine. All efforts for me or my father to broach the subject with him were met with my grandfather's ire and ended with us sitting in silence.
@vlad_ussr83904 жыл бұрын
The holodomor, was a horrible event that happend everywhere in the USSR, but in Ukraine especially, because most food was sold off
@johndownes91622 жыл бұрын
I read about this 32 years ago in a library in Harrow. I have always questioned everything I have ever been told since. For any English person read the Babbage report. Shocking.
@tedtruske65313 жыл бұрын
The book,”Harvest of Sorrow” by Robert Conquest describes the intentional starvation of rural families in Ukraine in the 1930’s.
@archerydragon80273 жыл бұрын
My dad always tells me to stand my ground and fight for what I believe in. No matter what it is I fight for it. I take those words to heart and remember them whenever I see opposition against my ideals, against my beliefs and my morals.
@lowercase214 жыл бұрын
Wow this was amazing to watch great work! I shared it on Facebook hopefully ppl wake up regardless of what side you are on.
@AABiscuit4 жыл бұрын
OMG Thank You for covering the Red Famine and the NY times complacent cover-up.
@noahmueller14683 жыл бұрын
I like how the context link is to the holocaust and not the holdomor, it’s almost like someone’s trying to hide something