The Home Run Contest: Melee's Craziest World Records Explained

[@Abyssoft]

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[@Pophet84]

dont sell your soul

[@Omnicrom]

Or at least leave timecodes to skip the trash, or put it at the end so it isn't annoying.

[@ThisisCitrus]

@@Pophet84 Warships is actually pretty fire, not some mobile trash game like most ads.

[@Pophet84]

@@ThisisCitrus mobile or not, it is pay 2 win.

[@wileecoyotegenius5955]

yeah I'll DEFINITELY do that

[@KaijuofSteel]

I'm proud that Ganondorf is finally top tier in something relating to Melee

[@NinetyLegos]

Or Smash in general

[@thatdamncrow9197]

@Th3DeathDog sure but thats only if the user of gannon far outskills the other players by a mile

[@carnage0685]

Ganondorf is fucking terrifying in casual play, at least.

[@IHarleyWin]

@@thatdamncrow9197 people’s opinion of Gannon has fallen so far after the best ganons retired.

[@thatdamncrow9197]

@@IHarleyWin it was always pretty bad Gannon is good in smash 4 and 5

[@HRCtypo42]

Great to see some in-depth informational content about HRC! Hope to see more in the future :)

[@DubYuhGChoppa]

Dudeee you're the guy who posted that clip with the phantom hit from Samus, man I still feel bad for ya to this day LOL that shit was so insane

[@HRCtypo42]

@@DubYuhGChoppa lmao wait are you talking about the one from over a decade ago? cause it happened again like a week ago on a WR run LOL

[@HuskyObscura]

L

[@justafan9206]

@@HRCtypo42 F, bud.

[@ianprado1488]

How are the distances past 9999 ft calculated?

[@TNinja0]

Seeing someone named ssj3vegeta on a leaderboard is peak 2003 moment.

[@Gaeboi69]

ssj4vegeto50

[@Pen7Ninja]

I remember seeing stuff online and roughly replicating bat drops and such. I obviously wasn't perfect but I was always so confused as to why my distance was like 1/3 of the amount other people online would get until I realised my game was in metres instead of feet...

[@joeldixton5627]

Godammit not America confusing us again 😆

[@snazzynasty1493]

Always found it counter intuitive that we made the imperial system with a drunk mathematician and then tried to push it as normal or as if it makes any sense. 5,260 something feet for 1 mile or 1000 meters for a KILOmeter... you tell me.

[@bannah6400]

This world is rapidly passing away and I hope that you repent and take time to change before all out disaster occurs! Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36) if you believed in Messiah you would be following His commands as best as you could. If you are not a follower of Messiah I would highly recommend becoming one. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13 over the course of 1260+ years. Revelation 17 confirms that the beast is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc. Have a blessed day!

[@maxdriever7668]

@@snazzynasty1493 5280 feet to a mile.

[@Clover298]

@@snazzynasty1493 well feet and miles aren’t from the same measurement system, they just got lumped together, and most people dont need to convert between them really

[@ZXMany]

This is so impressive! Seeing the hands on a GameCube controller when someone is pulling off this feat looks like it has the speed of someone mashing keys on a keyboard when they're pretending to type fast, but the precision required for pulling this off is unbelievable

[@dylanvaccaro6919]

Fun fact: wade boggs actually came up with the idea for a home run derby while watching his son play melee. He quickly got in touch with the melee community and the rest is history. RIP Wade, youll benmissed

[@AnotherViewBot]

Lmfao

[@LakeFX]

Wade Boggs is very much alive #iasip

[@b.clarenc9517]

Mid 2000's I spent countless hours grinding HRC, despite having no skill nor strategy. The "Ready?" and reset sounds are probably stuck in my memory for life.

[@Zeekfox]

I used to do these a long time ago. Part of the precision is L-cancelling the landings. Normally, landing after an attack wouldn't let you jump again so quickly, but if you press L (the button for shielding) at the right time, you'll cancel the landing animation. I feel like that one's worth a mention. Non-glitch Ice Climbers is a fun one though. I don't remember if it's the WR strat, but I recall doing bat drops with Popo using down-air while Nana does a forward air, which has the meteor property. This is accomplished by holding down slightly when having Popo drop the bat as Nana actually catches it. Then she can do the rest of the bat drop with Popo already in d-air animation. I spent so many hours on that.

[@foolmetwice374]

80,000+ feet? Gonna have to start worrying about the world's curvature and reaching escape velocity at that point.

[@PantsMasterPlays]

Trying to optimize my HRC is honestly my favorite single player content in Smash. There's something so addicting about trying to get just a few hundred more meters out of the little sand dude.

[@zdelrod829]

And abusing the shit out of gecko codes to scale the launch power of the sandbag.

[@ianmoore5502]

@@zdelrod829 this the one

[@jacksfacts20]

“Whats so hard about it?” Dude I still remember trying to mess around with the HR derby and it was SO hard. Trying to do it at their levels is insane.

[@Abyssoft]

Looks like there's a typo at 17:18, the titles should be switched, Low% Alt Finisher should be over the right column, and High% Bat Swinger should be over the left column.

[@Linkenfant]

Well HRC is always about typo eventually haha

[@DbladeMedic]

Theres a typo here to you just said both should be over the left column so which one should be over the righr column?

[@Abyssoft]

@@DbladeMedic fixed, thanks for catching this

[@DbladeMedic]

@@Abyssoft of course, amazing video as always!

[@Grane1234]

I've also caught that you didn't section the parts of the video properly, the Zelda/Sheik part doesn't last as long as the segment itself

[@seanf2049]

KenshinXx was my tag back in HRC. Narrowly lost the race to 100k to PrinceTidus. First to use batdrops with IC's (preglitch WR), Up A Falco BD's (double hit) lol, and single jump Fox BD's WR. Great video. Very nostalgic

[@funkydinosaur]

I had no idea how bloody interesting HRC was; amazing vid Abyssoft!! Thank you brother - keep up the top tier content!

[@jamespayne8252]

YES!!!! NEED A HISTORY VIDEO!!!!!! Love the channel and content!!! I could watch to a 3-4 hour video on this topic, literally just found out about the home run challenge and want to know more. Hell I could watch a 3-4 hour video on any speed run game. Thank you for opening eyes and showing me what all there is to see and do in the speed running world, keep up the great work.

[@JDLupus]

I whole-heartedly second everything you said! :D

[@thesuntitan]

Back when I couldn’t travel to tournaments, around 2006, HRC was my jam. I’m glad to see players are still finding out new stuff!

[@insulince]

I want a history video!!! I’m so glad this video was made, it’s wonderful to see this niche community I used to be a part of get some time in the spotlight. I spent more time in Brawl’s HRC than Melee’s, but they both have very rich histories and strategies that are perfect for this format. Please make more!

[@bwellstv4927]

One thing I wish was in this video (and it was briefly touched on) is just the number of inputs required to hit in those 10 seconds and what the frame window is on the bat drops. You can say it's "good spacing" but we're literally looking at absolutely insane precision.

[@Taegreth]

It's insane how much tech is in this game, and that there are essentially games within the game, like the HRC and a leaderboard behind it.

[@SylvesterAshcroft88]

I remember the home run being really fun in smash, especially with ganon you could get some insane distance, with very little effort!

[@chrispysaid]

I like how you say "hærd" "It's one of the hærdest combos to pull off"

[@somniad]

Yes! More HRC content would be wonderful! Seeing the strategy developments and insane accomplishments of this community would be a joy.

[@obscurereference8798]

I thought I had a decent amount of knowledge of Smash Bros and the Home Run Contest but apparently I was wrong. Thanks for teaching me more stuff about one of my favorite games!

[@wehavetogoback369]

WHAT A TREAT! I spent endless hours grinding homerun contest. I want to set my gamecube back up just to go play BTT and HRC again. Was never any good though but it was fun!

[@turndownforwalt]

Excellent work!

[@FIXathena.princess_IG.m1001]

get sober

[@onyxrain2362]

Sorta wanted to see a more summoning salt style showcasing the progress of players breaking the records. It was cool to see how it’s done though.

[@SAPANNow]

Lmao I love how the ice climbers send it literally 16 miles hahaha that’s awesome

[@sagacious03]

Excellent analysis video! Thanks for uploading! Personally, I'm eagerly awaiting your next TAS history focused video!

[@MegaQwertification]

Technical details of this vid were great. As a primary BTT player, getting all the HRC knowledge was a nice change of pace. Keep up the vids!

[@_Majunior]

All I do is stomp knee so any single player content is really sick to me

[@prizm9515]

Glad to see home run contest getting some spot light. I've always enjoyed that minigame more than the other ones.

[@koolaidman_]

14:28 as someone who loves to main zelda, that was the most beautiful thing ive seen in my entire life. That finisher with the quick change to zelda, grab the bat and smash it? Holy shit

[@bl4ckbl4z39]

god, Wak is a name i havent seen in foreeeeever, since that HRC TAS compilation video he made 9 years ago

[@FIXathena.princess_IG.m1001]

hot girl bummer summer

[@ShroomedMisterCraft]

Me: I can't play hrc with gannon, I wouldn't make it off the platform! Them:

[@Darxide23]

I don't know how the strats today are different than they were about 10 years ago, but I tried following some guides around 2011-2012 and fuck if I could ever manage to pull them off. This is superhuman levels of input control.

[@jbillion]

This was a really great video. Rare to find content like this

[@ogre589]

Why am I not surprised those 2 Eski-mofos are involved in the top score.

[@JD_13]

Video starts at 2:41 👍

[@jamesfloyd6693]

I in fact did not think "What's so hard about dealing out damage and hitting a home run." That mini game is hard as heck

[@rickoneill4343]

Thank you for the insane amount of effort and production of this video.

[@ChaosRagorA]

So how many button presses are these guys doing in those 9 seconds .... just watching them is making my arthritis ridden hands start to ache.

[@durandalfeee1227]

Production quality is amazing! Keep at it :)

[@davidvkimball]

Great overview of the Melee home run contest speedrun world records!!

[@angrychipmunks76]

Please do another video on this. The single player melee stuff is always so fascinating.

[@captainnintendo]

Man, I just love these kinds of videos Really interesting watch. So, what is the theoretical absolute highest distance you could get the sandbag to travel. If it was at 999% and got hit by the strongest attack in the game?

[@Jimmymcjimthejim]

WakSSBM has a video on this. He is able to get 300,000 feet using Peach

[@bannah6400]

This world is rapidly passing away and I hope that you repent and take time to change before all out disaster occurs! Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36) if you believed in Messiah you would be following His commands as best as you could. If you are not a follower of Messiah I would highly recommend becoming one. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13 over the course of 1260+ years. Revelation 17 confirms that the beast is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc. Have a blessed day!

[@Vikingja]

Great vid! Awesome to see some Melee.

[@Techstrobe]

typo's been demolishing some records this year, very nice to see a video on this and maybe more smash stuff in the future?

[@ThisisCitrus]

Warships is actually pretty fire, not some mobile trash game like most ads (Raid). Respect having good taste.

[@ZeranZeran]

I think my high score was in the 300's as a kid, and this was after practicing with friends! Holy crap great video man

[@KyrosQuickfist]

Not to mention these clear videos (not the grinding attempts), look swag AF.

[@WaifuRuns]

Love melee

[@NATOnova]

Great video. Didn't know there was still active community still breaking hrc records or that it was this deep

[@Martyste]

This was amazing, altough a little quick conversion to meters displayed as text next to the records in feet would have helped alot getting a feel about those distances.

[@Abyssoft]

There's been a few comments about this, in the future I'll display both, but I made the decision to display Imperial since my audience is overwhelmingly American. There's also reasons why Melee HRC is run in imperial as others have noted in comments below this. I'll fix it for future videos, but I suspect had I shown metric units the amount of comments I would have gotten about the units would be 5x haha.

[@wJRob93]

Excellent watch

[@MINI_91]

I am all for a history video on this subject!

[@TripDadLife]

Imagine this much dedication put towards something practical.

[@markymark443]

“You’re probably thinking ‘what’s so hard about piling on damage then hitting a home run?’” Anyone who thinks this has clearly never tried home run contest.

[@autumnshinespark]

I'm proud of tipo, I remember teaching him to do 2000 Peach a long time ago. -TimeSpaceMage

[@cr0wguitar]

There's a 4th property that affects knockback. The directional influence/input of the player being hit. For the purpose of HRC it doesn't apply, but I figured it was worth mentioning!

[@NinjasDTA]

I remember spending hundreds of hours trying to break these records using these methods and a few I found on my own. Never got there but good memories

[@MrIronJustice]

That big stadium never stops, I'm impressed. 80,000 feet is 15 miles.

[@clap5108]

Just want to point out that the first 30 seconds of this video was extremely encapsulating and really made me want to watch the rest of the video.

[@mrm64]

FINALLY someone who covers the Smash Bros Melee world records. Been waiting for the World Record Progression series to get to it but I got tired of waiting. This is cool. Thanks!

[@sanchezking6188]

Great video that explains both "historic" and modern/recent knowledge + mechanics really well!

[@a3uu]

this video essay was FIRE my guy. well done

[@rakemash]

This makes me want to play melee with the bat enabled

[@xXDarkie]

Finally a spotlight for one of the best stadium modes! As an old school HRC player I'd love to see a history video! It would be cool to see the history of each character's world record progression and strat progression throughout the years, showing how sin and marth1 changed HRC! Thank you for the video!

[@ssbmTimo]

I would love to see a history of hrc world records. I had my mind blown back in the day with Sin2324 and now Typo does it all over again.

[@GoTeamScotch]

I'm not sure why I watched a 20 minute video about a game I haven't played in like 15 years... but I enjoyed it regardless. 😄

[@petrescuework-difficultcas6581]

Video starts, me never having played the game: "What did the poor marshmallow do to deserve this?!" 😫

[@TrueYankeeFan]

Don't worry! From the description in his trophy in Melee: "Getting hit doesn't hurt Sandbag at all. As a matter of fact, it loves to see players wind up and let loose."

[@petrescuework-difficultcas6581]

@@TrueYankeeFan 😂 thanks, well that is good to hear

[@bannah6400]

This world is rapidly passing away and I hope that you repent and take time to change before all out disaster occurs! Belief in messiah alone is not enough to grant you salvation - Matthew 7:21-23, John 3:3, John 3:36 (ESV is the best translation for John 3:36) if you believed in Messiah you would be following His commands as best as you could. If you are not a follower of Messiah I would highly recommend becoming one. Call on the name of Jesus and pray for Him to intervene in your life - Revelation 3:20. Contemplate how the Roman Empire fulfilled the role of the beast from the sea in Revelation 13 over the course of 1260+ years. Revelation 17 confirms that the beast is in fact Rome. From this we can conclude that A) Jesus is the Son of God and can predict the future or make it happen, B) The world leaders/nations/governments etc have been conspiring together for the last 3000+ years going back to Babylon and before, C) History as we know it is fake. You don't really need to speculate once you start a relationship with God. Can't get a response from God? Fasting can help increase your perception and prayer can help initiate events. God will ignore you if your prayer does not align with His purpose (James 4:3) or if you are approaching Him when "unclean" (Isaiah 1:15, Isaiah 59:2, Micah 3:4). Stop eating food sacrificed to idols (McDonald's, Wendy's etc) stop glorifying yourself on social media or making other images of yourself (Second Commandment), stop gossiping about other people, stop watching obscene content etc. Have a blessed day!

[@PtylerBeats]

I loved the home run contest as a kid. I remember feeling like a genius for picking up the bag with DK and walking down the track with it and then jumping and throwing it right hit before the count down ended haha this video makes me feel like an idiot lol

[@Bacchus325]

I'd love to see this for each game with HRC

[@SinYue]

nice job I hope to see more in-depth videos on HRC. for me It will always be the best mode in all of gaming. I'm suprised you showed peach's tas wr but appearently didn't think it was crazy enough to get an explaination XD

[@Riley_Falh]

I have no idea how or why i got here. But this was facisnating. Great video!

[@PhantomAarantula]

Sheik and Zelda's HRC is so stylish. You can tell it's totally within the spirit of their play style. Sheik sets em up, Zelda knocks em down.

[@Bolpat]

I definitely want to hear more about the Home Run Contest.

[@OverworkedPostalEmployee]

I didn't realize how much I needed a video on this until it popped up in my feed. Thank you so much! Edit: Oh, it's not a full roster wr history video =( still super intersting, and I can't wait to see a full wr vid!

[@Abyssoft]

Like I said, characters under the same category have small variations with how they do the bat drop combo, so I worked with Typo to curate a list of the most interesting characters to present

[@MageSkeleton]

i am mind blown, i would had thought Yoshi would had been not only the easiest to get max distance but also that "only other character" that can do it. Furthest i ever got with like 7k, but i know it's possible to get further even with my precise inputs i was able to do.

[@Noodle.in.oodles]

Great video! Though, I highly doubt Barry Bonds would be jealous of any of these people... I mean, they don't even take steroids.

[@glencurtis6052]

I was hoping this was going to be a WR history so would love to see one in the future

[@Mantorok12]

The last one was fifteen miles, I love that

[@m0002856]

One thing to help explain why Roy’s down air is so inconsistent is how the game handles overlapping hit boxes. I know your visual was a simplified version of the hitboxes, but, for anybody who is curious, the real move has several hitboxes that all overlap to some degree. This creates situations where a character might be hit by multiple overlapping hitboxes. The way the game handles this interaction is that it chooses which hitbox’s data to apply based on a priority system. Roy’s sweet spot hitbox has a lower priority than any of the weak hitboxes which is why the move is so difficult to use effectively. Because of the priority system, you need to hit the sand bag with ONLY the strong hitbox. If even a pixel of the weaker hitbox touches even just a tiny pixel from the sandbag, you will get the weak hit that you don’t want.

[@chet_awesomelad]

Never seen this channel before, this was fucking awesome. Great video idea, great explanation of the mechanics, great storytelling.

[@shiina4861]

never watched your channel but seeing this video topic in my feed made me so happy, melee video essays make the world go round

[@PaxtheDreamer]

So doing the math at the end there, the Ice Climbers ended up making the sandbag fly at near exactly 449 MPH

[@Sweetguy1821]

I remeber as a kid getting 2000+ with yoshi and thinking there was no way to do better than that lol. Guess 12 year old me should of done more research.

[@Esauofisaac]

If there were a speedrun for colonizing Mars we would have a Dyson Sphere around our Sun right now, this is insane

[@Zaddy_THC]

That shiek clip was so sick bro

[@snex000]

I used to do both HRC and BtT back in the day. I was top 10 in every BtT stage and had some shared WRs, but HRC was goddamn hard.

[@shapular]

Another interesting thing is that in version 1.0 the track only goes about 4500 ft which causes another split in the records for Ganondorf and ICs. There's some way to get like 4900 ft but I don't know the details.

[@HomeRunChips]

I used to be a Brawl HRC Pro back in the days. Good times!

[@animeninja2749]

Its crazy how faster the inputs look on human hands. But on the game it just looks normal

[@valseedian]

in 2003-5 I probably spent 1000+ hours practicing gdorf's home run. ended up with 1 fewer bat drop than the tas with a reverse punch. only ever hit it once.

[@beenblack90]

I knew Ganondorf was my fav character in Melee for a reason, and now I know the purpose...

[@FlamingZelda3]

now we need a summoning salt video chronicling the competition for best total distance.

[@Karl_Kampfwagen]

Ice Climbers are like the Gustav Gun in HRC 😅 40 miles of flight, in a TASR

[@StepBaum]

Videoediting improved by a lot! Really good and interesting video :)

[@aubreyterry9453]

I’m like mega sick so everytime I try to watch this video I keep falling asleep and then restarting and then falling asleep then restarting, I’m pretty sure I’m like half of your views lmao!

[@bweekz]

Great video man.

[@chrisd6287]

Absolutely fantastic, incredible job as usual sir. Bravo