The Honest Truth About Lab Grown Diamonds

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Bellman Jewelers, Inc.

Bellman Jewelers, Inc.

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@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive
@MildMisanthropeMaybeMassive 3 жыл бұрын
Lab Grown needs better marketing. It should be renamed eco-friendly, conflict free, slaveless diamonds instead.
@overlord3481
@overlord3481 3 жыл бұрын
those names sound terrible
@danrares-youtube
@danrares-youtube 3 жыл бұрын
We need to stop sacrificing the lives of innocent people for the sake of looking rich. Mild is right. Marketing is key. The consumer needs to get educated.
@creeperlamoureux
@creeperlamoureux 2 жыл бұрын
It's like the 1960's safer cigarettes all over again. They can't promote lab grown diamonds that way because it'll make mined diamonds look bad and make consumers question the value of diamonds
@Heikki_Finland
@Heikki_Finland 2 жыл бұрын
@@overlord3481 Maybe but he is on the right track.
@nancy-ann-ciancee5127
@nancy-ann-ciancee5127 2 жыл бұрын
Doesn’t sound appealing to me and sounds less valuable.
@Spence2602
@Spence2602 3 жыл бұрын
We need to factor in one key fact 99% of people buy a diamond ring or bracelet as a life long gift not as an investment, therefore the ethical lab grown diamonds of which to the 99% of people are the same and the results of the smile of your partners face is the same. Diamonds are NOT an investment they are gifts for life. The diamond trade is barbaric and like ivory should be assigned to the history books.
@NehaYadav-lr5ul
@NehaYadav-lr5ul 4 жыл бұрын
You are telling me that natural diamonds hold their value is the "honest truth"? You can sell your natural diamond for maybe 50% of what you paid in the store, if you are lucky. That loss is more than the cost of a lab grown diamond lol
@vister6757
@vister6757 4 жыл бұрын
Unless it's a rare diamond which cost a lot of money most people cannot afford.
@lanzi655
@lanzi655 4 жыл бұрын
@@vister6757 and what's a rare diamond 💎 ? Making sure not to many reach the market and also create i interest in other simular products like " black diamond " started to get more and more popular. Before no interest and no price.
@cneer17
@cneer17 3 жыл бұрын
2:54 “you’ll probably still be able to trade them in and upgrade, but you’re gonna get a lot less money for your stone” he’s literally debunking this idea that other jewelers are saying
@protonneutron9046
@protonneutron9046 3 жыл бұрын
Correct Neha. Buying real diamonds at retail prices is beyond stoopid.
@NoNo-ng9sl
@NoNo-ng9sl 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly 💯. I think it's interesting that jewlers are finding out that most people don't care anymore about how much they're spending on diamonds. It's usually a one time purchase that has horrible resale value. Hell, the gold setting is the better investment.
@blackspiderman1887
@blackspiderman1887 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the cost of a natural diamond is expensive because de beers artificially withhold diamonds to keep the price up. The people digging the diamonds are making like 10 bucks a day............maybe.
@daviedood2503
@daviedood2503 3 жыл бұрын
Well with lab diamonds it won't matter what de beers holds onto. Lab diamonds pass as real diamonds. 😂 Flood the market with them and all diamonds lose value. They can't even tell if it's lab grown unless youre blabbering your mouth about it. 😂 Stay quiet and accept your profits. 😂
@ginnamin
@ginnamin 3 жыл бұрын
Also their advertising helped with changing the minds of the public that diamonds were the “ pinnacle “ in the gem world
@Xighor
@Xighor 3 жыл бұрын
$10 max, maybe not even $5 They use poor African countries, take their resources and artificially pump the price of worthless compressed carbon junk If I was them I would take a handful at least not like they'll notice when theyve got a truckload
@daviedood2503
@daviedood2503 3 жыл бұрын
@@Xighor they're searched specifically for that. These people aren't ALL stupid. 😂 When it comes to GREED and bending someone, All of a sudden people turn into geniuses..
@cheniseflowers8143
@cheniseflowers8143 3 жыл бұрын
Thank youuu for saying this. UGHHH. I've been hearing this for years. And that there's actually not a "shortage"?
@cat52
@cat52 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather buy a lab grown gem than a gem that was mined. Mining does massive environmental damage and often times slave labor is used. I could care less if it's cheap compared to a read diamond. They are beautiful and worth purchasing. In addition you can buy Moissanite even cheaper which is lab grown and it's just as beautiful.
@RalseiGaming
@RalseiGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Lab grown gemstones and diamonds are pretty great they are good for jewelry and industrial and medical use Real diamonds are kinda a problem cause they already have some sketchy ways of obtaining them such as blood diamonds look into with caution Plus diamond mines cause a lot of problems to the natural environment And other gemstones mined for jewelry have so many more uses such as opal and sapphire used for electronics Azurite used in certain supercomputers and space craft Uranium used in nuclear power, air craft, space travel, and a lot more There are so many more uses for rare gemstones and metals other then jewelry Few have medical use and I don’t mean the crystal healing bullshit
@Kyle-pj2vc
@Kyle-pj2vc 3 жыл бұрын
Guess what, I don't give a shit. We all are a burden on the environment, get over it. Last time I checked, it wasn't slaves. Most stores ensure they're not blood diamonds.
@TimeSpace1
@TimeSpace1 3 жыл бұрын
How much energy do you think lab diamonds consume?
@Friedchicke
@Friedchicke 3 жыл бұрын
USFTC released that lab diamonds aren't really "environmentally friendly" it requires tons of energy 24/7 nonstop to make a diamond. Thousands of sqm turned into factories.
@bmx687
@bmx687 2 жыл бұрын
Number one way to help the environment, dont have children
@joonlee30
@joonlee30 4 жыл бұрын
You are not telling the truth when you said natural diamonds hold value better. You are extremely lucky if you can get half of what you paid for. The money you save on lab diamonds, will pay for itself with money lost on resale of natural diamonds. People, I will tell you the real truth. DIAMONDS ARE NOT PRECIOUS STONE. De Beers control the supply and make diamond appear rare.
@dibrentley7915
@dibrentley7915 3 жыл бұрын
true, try buying a good quality natural emerald.
@devangselvadia8879
@devangselvadia8879 3 жыл бұрын
That is true but only in developed nations like usa and European countries.The reason being the margins at which they sell these to consumers is way more than places like india and china where you do not easily loose any money when u sell back the diamond.I can say this as i am a diamond trader myself.I buy back diamonds at the same price i sold them for any day
@natevic1867
@natevic1867 3 жыл бұрын
Diamonds can literally cost as little as a thousand. No idea why so many people are offended at the thought of owning natural diamonds. So many other materialistic shit that we buy also has no resale value but we still buy it
@protonneutron9046
@protonneutron9046 3 жыл бұрын
@@devangselvadia8879 WRONG. Go to India and test your theory
@Mayangone
@Mayangone 3 жыл бұрын
Stores generally markup gold and diamonds by about 300-600%. If a store go on sales at 50% off, they still make 200-300%.
@damiangjy
@damiangjy 4 жыл бұрын
The very fact that jewelry suppliers don't mix lab-grown diamonds and natural diamonds is extremely telling. Natural diamonds have their prices egregiously inflated because of their 'history'. Lab-growns are literally the same, down to their chemical structure, are more ethical, and of higher quality. Mix some naturals in a bag of lab-growns and their prices will all normalize down to the lab-grown's prices.
@lewislane1143
@lewislane1143 2 жыл бұрын
There should be no regulation requirement to disclose lab grown versus mine diamonds. Why? Its a diamond. Do they disclose Russian, South African or Canadian diamonds? Sometime, but not required.
@cathifamjourney469
@cathifamjourney469 2 жыл бұрын
@@lewislane1143 So you're telling me that if you were to buy a diamond and ruby ring, and paying good money for it, that it would be perfectly fine to charge you the same amount for a real gemstone and give you lab grown gems instead? No way dude.
@lewislane1143
@lewislane1143 2 жыл бұрын
@@cathifamjourney469 First of all, we are talking about diamond, not other gem stones. Secondly, please get this straight, they are both REAL diamonds. Same in every aspect other than how it was made.
@bretmelton7116
@bretmelton7116 3 жыл бұрын
Diamond business is finished. Diamonds aren't worth anything. Just looks pretty
@david7384
@david7384 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah that's why jewels have been valuables for 10000 years 😂
@unknownethnicity
@unknownethnicity 3 жыл бұрын
I said verbatim what you said to my girlfriend when I proposed to her. Then she broke up with me. No diamond, no wife. Miss wife.
@yacked
@yacked 3 жыл бұрын
????????
@bretmelton7116
@bretmelton7116 3 жыл бұрын
@@yacked think about this, a pre-owned diamond is the exact same thing as a brand new diamond. They're practically indistinguishable. Yet when you go to sell your pre-owned Diamond, you're getting less than half of what you paid for it. Then couple the fact that diamonds are being manufactured in Labs now which are indistinguishable from natural diamonds. That's driving the value down. In the future, when the cost to manufacture diamonds in a lab goes even cheaper, the value of a natural diamond will plummet. Lastly, diamonds aren't inherently rare in the first place. In the future when consumers begin to realize that supply has been controlled for decades and that there is no Rarity, people will stop focusing on diamonds for value and simply enjoy them because they are beautiful
@IFechiMusic
@IFechiMusic 3 жыл бұрын
No, diamond never did nothing for you. Is cheaper cause of the internet humans are getring smart... back then ppl pay 200k for any shiny stone.
@goldslinger
@goldslinger 3 жыл бұрын
If history repeats itself, Debeers aren’t trying to drive costs down, they are trying to undersell competition out of business, so they can control that market, too. Then, the price of lab will increase to what is is Today or higher. We, too work with small markups, but do custom to pick up that end to keep the doors open.
@dinashwartz4621
@dinashwartz4621 3 жыл бұрын
I have sold a few of my real diamond rings for.... pennies....its not a good investment on money. I think the lab diamonds is the way to go. They are beautiful and easy to create ...and so much less expensive
@joshuahoward3337
@joshuahoward3337 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t understand why diamonds out of the ground are considered more valuable. Wouldn’t mined diamonds drop in value considering the lab grown diamonds are bigger and conflict free? It’s the exact thing as a mined diamond considering the material properties. I don’t see how mines diamonds hold there value. If it’s based on consumer psychology then I would have to imagine that changes. Especially with the younger generation. What are your thoughts?
@WhatsupwitItPodcast
@WhatsupwitItPodcast 4 жыл бұрын
Joshua Howard blood sweat hard work makes it highly real fake overnight man made not ova the years
@gblikesnikes
@gblikesnikes 4 жыл бұрын
Natural apple from a tree with seeds or a lab grown apple with no seeds. Personally I want the natural fruit just like I want a natural diamond.
@Wewhosee-im3ii
@Wewhosee-im3ii 4 жыл бұрын
Because the natural diamond industry is a huge scam! Some people are still too dumb to realize!
@lanzi655
@lanzi655 4 жыл бұрын
StreetKing Productions what means natural diamonds? The extrem prices they’re asking for “natural diamonds” is even not the point. The expensive prices are hold high by making sure they’re controlling the amount of it that is released to the markets. So you paying just an unbelievable amount for diamonds where the prices are controlled. No difference by laboratory produced diamonds, just clearly better in price and no difference in quality. Think about.
@lavonn188
@lavonn188 4 жыл бұрын
It jus depends on the individual, you wana buy something that holds it's value overtime for whatever reason, or u jus wana look gud for a season.. Me personally, I jus wana look gud in my season, I'm not worried bout it holding value, cant take it with you...
@dibrentley7915
@dibrentley7915 3 жыл бұрын
Im not sure you can call any jewellery an investment piece unless its by a renown designer maybe .
@Austin1990
@Austin1990 4 жыл бұрын
Another side of the value issue is that diamond dealers exaggerate how much a diamond will actually be worth secondhand. Although resale value of natural diamonds will be significantly higher than the resale value of a lab diamond, the natural diamond will likely lose more value than what you paid for the lab diamond to begin with. So, financial planning isn’t on the side of natural diamonds.
@thestud1881
@thestud1881 4 жыл бұрын
wrong coz natural color diamonds increased in value year after year just research how much the original costs of natural diamonds before they were auctioned the The Oppenheimer Blue was sold for $4 million dollars per carat. The Archduke Joseph Diamond was auctioned in 2006 for $6 million dollars and it was sold in 2012 again for $26 million!
@Austin1990
@Austin1990 4 жыл бұрын
THE STUD You are talking about extreme cases. I can buy a ring with a quality 0.7ct natural diamond for ~$4k from my local jeweler. Based upon stories online, reselling it for $2k would be unthinkable; getting less than $1k seems more realistic. I could buy an equivalent ring with a lab diamond for ~$2k. So, I buy a natural diamond ring for $4k and resell for $1.5k, losing $2.5k. But, I could buy the same ring with a lab gem for $2k. So, the ring with the natural diamond would lose more value than the ring with the lab diamond costs retail. I was considering a $1.2k 0.8ct loose lab diamond vs a $3k natural diamond based upon shopping that I have done for loose gems. You would be lucky to get 60% of your money back from reselling a loose natural diamond, which means you would sell it for $1.8k at a loss of $1.2k, the value of the lab diamond. I am assuming a resale value of $0 for the ring with a lab diamond, which is very generous in favor of the natural diamond. The math still doesn’t work out. Natural diamonds will increase in value as they become more scarce, but lab diamond will decrease in value as production increases. I expect these to balance each other out so that the math results in the same conclusion. But, don't expect the natural diamond to increase in value so much that it significantly increases the percentage of the resale value. The increase in lab diamond production will reduce the demand of natural diamonds, which will likely compensate for the decrease in supply of natural diamonds. So, it could be that the actual retail value of natural diamonds changes very little.
@thestud1881
@thestud1881 4 жыл бұрын
Austin P extreme cases? The Arcduke Joseph diamond was sold in 1996 for $6 million dollars. In 2012 it solf for over $26 million dollars! That's just one of the many examples. A diamond worth $4k dollars today is much much cheaper in distant past. Now how many lab created diamond do you know that is worth more once resold? NONE
@Austin1990
@Austin1990 4 жыл бұрын
THE STUD In the last 10 years, the cost of rough diamonds increased by ~40%. If the resale value of a diamond bought in 2010 was a generous 60% of retail, it would sell for 85% of its 2010 retail price. That is still a loss and nothing to brag about. The largest gains in value over the last 20 years are due to inflation anyway, making it even less brag-worthy. Those numbers are just for the loose diamonds. If you buy a ring, it will look worse. And, all my estimates before assumed a $0 value for not just lab diamonds but for the settings as well. There simply isn’t a financial justification for natural diamonds. People can buy them if they want, but the financial investment deception is just to help customers justify the cost. And, we are not talking about the insanely rare gems. We are talking about what jewelers are selling when they argue that it is an investment. Edit: As much as the numbers favor lab diamonds, I think they are still too expensive. The market will be very different when lab diamonds are little more expensive than moissanite.
@thestud1881
@thestud1881 4 жыл бұрын
Austin P you are talking non sense here. You said natural diamonds will lose more value in the long run than lab created diamonds I already won this argument coz I've given you proof on how they appreciated in value. Lab created diamonds used to costs thousands of dollars per carat but De Beers Lightbox Jewellery are selling 1 carat diamonds for $800 per carat! No idiot would spend more than $800 for a second hand lab created diamond. Whereas natural diamonds they will continue to increase in value overtime.
@davidshapiro3527
@davidshapiro3527 4 жыл бұрын
Lol I don’t buy jewelry to sell I buy it to wear it
@johnsnowwww
@johnsnowwww 3 жыл бұрын
Diamonds are not investments pal
@teddybear2840
@teddybear2840 4 жыл бұрын
I don't buy diamond as investment. People buy them as jewelry.
@chrisshroyer3474
@chrisshroyer3474 4 жыл бұрын
Information regarding depreciation is entirely incorrect. I bought my wife's engagement ring 10 years ago for $450 from Diamond Nexus. That same ring today is $1,000. Lab created diamonds do not depreciate in value.
@jacekcierpiszewski
@jacekcierpiszewski 3 жыл бұрын
Dude. Your 400$ 10 years ago is now $1200 because of inflation
@michaelbuffington4047
@michaelbuffington4047 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 3.05 carat vvs2 for 11,750
@Boxing187
@Boxing187 2 жыл бұрын
I. Need a custom piece and a tennnsi chain
@lanzi655
@lanzi655 4 жыл бұрын
The thousands of $ lost is by all diamonds exactly the same. The time you pay it 10 minutes after you lost 40% already. Diamonds are a bad investment, it was time that the science finally proved that diamonds are completely overpriced.
@AllMouthAndTrousers
@AllMouthAndTrousers 3 жыл бұрын
The diamond market was controlled and most diamonds never reached the market. Now with values falling it makes no sense to control supply, so prepare for big falls.
@natevic1867
@natevic1867 3 жыл бұрын
Not everyone buys diamonds as an investment lmao
@lavonn188
@lavonn188 4 жыл бұрын
I agree with the idea of buying moissanite or even lab grown diamonds, really bcuz of costs, I mean they are still reading as diamonds, jus the moissanite tend to be more colorful and not as hard as mined diamond. And the carat is actually bigger! But yea you are probably limited on the other 4cs, but who cares lol..
@AllMouthAndTrousers
@AllMouthAndTrousers 3 жыл бұрын
I've got these two identical things provided by company A and company B. No one can tell the difference. The one thing from A is more expensive than the one from B and the prices at B are falling. What will happen to company A? It will go out of business while company B sells more and more and customers are happier.
@johnsnowwww
@johnsnowwww 3 жыл бұрын
How are you going to tell if it's a lab grown or natural diamond?
@protonneutron9046
@protonneutron9046 3 жыл бұрын
lab diamonds are higher quality so that is one way to tell
@Mpompadour
@Mpompadour 3 жыл бұрын
I believe they laser inscribe the girdle with information of the lab grown diamond so it is distinguished from a natural diamond.
@inavag3038
@inavag3038 4 жыл бұрын
yes the business is screwed. ill give it 10 years.
@shondabecker3964
@shondabecker3964 2 жыл бұрын
I have a lab grown diamond under a carat what can I sell it for?
@GeorgeGetsItDone
@GeorgeGetsItDone 4 жыл бұрын
Good luck reselling natural diamonds. Unless you are buying in wholesale parcels you are taking a hit. Diamonds Natural or Not are not rate so it’s good drive the price down
@thestud1881
@thestud1881 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong! The Archduke Joseph Diamond was first sold in 2006 for $6 million but in 2012 it sold again for $26 million dollars!
@GeorgeGetsItDone
@GeorgeGetsItDone 4 жыл бұрын
David Robertson yeah but let’s say wedding rings 50% divorce rate they will try and sell.
@sunsprite4545
@sunsprite4545 4 жыл бұрын
@@thestud1881 - That was a rare museum quality collectors piece and very few of those exist. The price of museum quality pieces will always rise. The other 99.9 percent of diamonds people buy are just ordinary stones and won't retain the value of what was paid for them even if they are earth mined.
@alicjaruiz1317
@alicjaruiz1317 3 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeGetsItDone we're not in the 1700s anymore, if women get a divorce they will get alimony or a job to support them.
@natevic1867
@natevic1867 3 жыл бұрын
lol people are spending thousands on lab diamonds when you can literally buy real diamonds for the same price. It’s laughable how stupid people become at the thought of having to ‘waste money’ on natural diamonds that they end up spending more money on a lab created one. 😂 do your research folks rather than assuming that all diamonds must cost half your paycheck. There are stores out there that sell REAL diamonds for a very good price. Learn about cut, color and clarity. All those things make a huge difference. And don’t buy brand names
@Boxing187
@Boxing187 2 жыл бұрын
How much for a karet today ? I’m coming to your shop soon
@marvelousoui4393
@marvelousoui4393 2 жыл бұрын
De Beers sells lab grown diamonds for $800 per carat. VS1 very good cut and color G or F
@yrichspirit2350
@yrichspirit2350 4 жыл бұрын
So I’m paying more Kuz they digged it out 😂😂😂😂
@cristianomessi8079
@cristianomessi8079 4 жыл бұрын
Not at all. Yes you pay the certain fee which is understandable but this dude is just trying to market his own stuff. Real diamonds are found everywhere they don’t need to go any deeper they can just move over to another area
@cashcarti6811
@cashcarti6811 4 жыл бұрын
@@cristianomessi8079 you wrote so much words while saying nothing, and your wrong
@cristianomessi8079
@cristianomessi8079 4 жыл бұрын
@@cashcarti6811 Nothing I said was incorrect but ok if it makes you any happier haha
@ns538
@ns538 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, they even have to pay 2 cents to the kids who dig them out 😂
@MichaelDeStefano
@MichaelDeStefano 4 жыл бұрын
When will Lab Grown Diamonds hit Scale? 1 year? 5 Years? What does it really cost you for a 3ct lab grown? What is a fair price for a 2.5 to a 3ct round lab grown with decent quality? Will these be 1000 a couple of years from now?
@elih9482
@elih9482 3 жыл бұрын
What should a 40+pnter VS1 stone cost in lab grown?
@TheMundoman
@TheMundoman 2 жыл бұрын
Hi, just watched your video. My wife is interested in a small band. What is the current price of lab-grown diamonds say G VS2 quality as of 3/7/22? Thanks
@lynnbieniek3305
@lynnbieniek3305 2 жыл бұрын
Is a lab diamond the same as a cz?
@fosterkittymama7576
@fosterkittymama7576 3 жыл бұрын
How do I know if I’m buying a lab grown or natural Diamond
@mm-rj3vo
@mm-rj3vo 4 жыл бұрын
Who digs in the diamond mines?
@protonneutron9046
@protonneutron9046 3 жыл бұрын
machines
@idonthaveaname42
@idonthaveaname42 2 жыл бұрын
Is it ok to call a lab grown corrundum a sapphire when i sell?
@tysanders68
@tysanders68 4 жыл бұрын
Good to know.. problem is how to tell a organic diamond from a lab diamond??? Diamond tester can’t even tell difference. Buying jewelry is a waste of money. Unless your buying pure gold sellers are winning ripping people off setting there own prices..💯👍🏾
@heatherstringer2891
@heatherstringer2891 2 жыл бұрын
You can’t tell a difference. At all.
@benjaminprince2911
@benjaminprince2911 4 жыл бұрын
There is no chemical difference between a lab diamond and a mined diamond. The cost argument he's making is hilariously bad.
@khoroshsabzi
@khoroshsabzi 3 жыл бұрын
I was told htpt diamonds are more “brittle”. Any truth to that?
@TinfoilHatWearer
@TinfoilHatWearer 3 жыл бұрын
How much is a natural diamond of the same size, that he mentioned? 3000$ for a lab grown, how much for the same thing that is natural?
@KawaiiyukihanaSmiles
@KawaiiyukihanaSmiles 4 жыл бұрын
How much would a 1.5k round diamond be worth? It is a G, vs2, ideal cut...
@m4a1JAY
@m4a1JAY 4 жыл бұрын
Probably 3-4k.
@natevic1867
@natevic1867 3 жыл бұрын
@@redprism5522 um I have real diamonds that cost less lmao
@joshawarapin
@joshawarapin 2 жыл бұрын
1 year later is a 1 carat still $700-$900?
@plutonium8879
@plutonium8879 4 жыл бұрын
You’re a goon for saying mined diamonds are more expensive due to the cost of labor in extracting them from the ground. Please explain to the people how an individual getting paid 10$ per day (if that) for digging up diamonds equates to a price difference of 55% on a diamond. For the people reading this...never buy a mined diamond. There is no justification when we consider price manipulation, enslavement, and environmental damage. You’re basically paying twice as much so that cheap labor can be exploited, natural terrain demolished, and a country kept poor.
@mostbrutalvideos4612
@mostbrutalvideos4612 4 жыл бұрын
Mining diamonds from ground costs more due to them being dug from ground, cost that consists with this including fuel costs, plantation costs, equipment costs, maintaince costs, employee costs, Tax costs, transport costs etc... You fail to acknowledge this into your simple brains
@alcoll1038
@alcoll1038 4 жыл бұрын
@@mostbrutalvideos4612 Then why do it? Why mine diamonds when they cost more and are more detrimental to the environment? It's beyond stupid. Lab-made diamonds are the exact same thing on the microscopic and macroscopic level. Falling for the propaganda, when you know it's the exact same thing, is stupid.
@mostbrutalvideos4612
@mostbrutalvideos4612 4 жыл бұрын
@@alcoll1038 it's business, it's how thing's are done, get over it.
@alcoll1038
@alcoll1038 4 жыл бұрын
@@mostbrutalvideos4612 I don't think I'm gonna "get over" environmental issues and shitty business practices. "How things are done" remains a stupid way to do things.
@joshuahoward3337
@joshuahoward3337 4 жыл бұрын
@@mostbrutalvideos4612 this is a non answer. The funny thing about business is if you invest in a shitty product like diamonds mined with slave labor, you might not like it when people decide it's not nearly as valuable as a bigger diamond that doesn't involve shitty business practices. It's only valuable right now because the older generation doesn't give a shit about the environment and poor working conditions. They're also easily sold on pitches like this. Mined diamonds will deflate the same as lab diamonds over time.
@stevemqn4053
@stevemqn4053 3 жыл бұрын
We call BullSh***t! Diamonds in general are absolutely one of the worst investments you can make. It's like buying a new car, then expecting the price for it to increase as time goes on...You lost money as soon as you drove off the lot. And in reality, you LOSE way more trading a diamond back in... around a 50% loss. And yes the resale/trade-in value of lab grown diamonds are even worse than that.
@stevemqn4053
@stevemqn4053 3 жыл бұрын
@Ian S I'm sorry, What part isn't true?? In your opinion, what can the average person expect back when selling back a diamond ring from the retail price? And please explain the fluctuating point, at what point does that fluctuation benefit someone selling their diamond ring back? Please enlighten us, or is "moron" the best you can do.
@stevemqn4053
@stevemqn4053 3 жыл бұрын
@Ian S So no real explanation for your remark..Trying to compare diamonds to stock or commodities shows how little you know about investments. People buying Diamonds at retail are NOT investing in anything. Dealers and wholesalers yes will make a profit...Just like car dealers.
@stevemqn4053
@stevemqn4053 3 жыл бұрын
@Ian S Absolutely, let get the bus running Mr. bus driver, please explain the process for in buying a diamond at retail price, then walking to another jewelry store and selling it for a profit?
@stevemqn4053
@stevemqn4053 3 жыл бұрын
So you have no argument. The whole point of my comments are about are about retail buying and losing money as soon as you walk out of a jewelry store. What you are explaining is wholesaling. Which the average person/couple do not do. They are told diamonds are an investment when buying engagement rings, only to find out at least 50% of the value of the diamond is nullified when try to sell it back. When they try to sell back they are getting more money for the metal than the diamond they purchased. You apparently have trouble proving your point so, I'll let you go on this one. Please re-read comments before you pop-off and post without thinking. Because it's apparent you don't an argument, only insults.
@yuccckk13
@yuccckk13 2 жыл бұрын
Is VVS Simulated diamonds same as lab grown? If not what are they? Are they real?
@viruta147
@viruta147 10 ай бұрын
El termino simulado se refiere a cz o moissanite los diamantes de laboratorio o ( lab grow ) son reales pero artificiales
@Big84james
@Big84james 4 жыл бұрын
People will still buy & admired lab diamond.. Because lab diamond way more cheaper & get more cheaper than natural diamond. For quality.?? Meh.. Its the same. So why buy the destructive & more expensive one?
@tigerblood3692
@tigerblood3692 3 жыл бұрын
So it's a GMO diamond?
@trevormarks5038
@trevormarks5038 4 жыл бұрын
Your honesty is admirable and greatly appreciated!! I will absolutely look to work with you for future jewelry needs
@eyeshowyou
@eyeshowyou 3 жыл бұрын
Are they as hard as real diamonds?
@ChrisLevelsUp
@ChrisLevelsUp 4 жыл бұрын
What’s to stop mining companies from purchasing uncut lab grown diamonds and claiming that they were mined?
@respecteverybodynohate9637
@respecteverybodynohate9637 4 жыл бұрын
Good point
@sylvia5623
@sylvia5623 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, nothing. They can just stamp the microscopic # into a lab-grown diamond and suddenly it's "natural". But I doubt they would because they have SO many diamonds already. They just want it to seem like diamonds are rare.
@Celia-gq4yq
@Celia-gq4yq 4 жыл бұрын
Good point!!!
@mannhispen56
@mannhispen56 3 жыл бұрын
I KNOW A LADY, always buy jewelry on line. Two Months ago, she bought a 1 carat diamond, suppose F colour, Vs2,, Found out, it is H, Si1, then she send back to the wholesale diamond dealer in New York, the new one turned out to be a Lab Grown, she was told it is a Natural, a Gem Lab in Vancouver found out. And she returned it. So, friends, please always go get some professional opinions. There are definitely some ways to test Natural and Lab Grown.
@thestud1881
@thestud1881 4 жыл бұрын
Your $3,000 1 carat lab created diamond is also overpriced coz De Beers Lightbox Jewelry are selling theirs for only $800 per carat!
@megaman010391
@megaman010391 4 жыл бұрын
Damm, here in LA you can get a 2Ct for around $300-$500 buks
@berty1807
@berty1807 4 жыл бұрын
@@megaman010391 Thats not a lab grown diamond then , it would be a Moissanite .... Totally different.
@megaman010391
@megaman010391 4 жыл бұрын
@@berty1807 Moissanite will pass as diamonds with a regular tester. High Pressure/Temp diamonds are more realistic when comparing to real diamonds but more expensive.
@berty1807
@berty1807 4 жыл бұрын
@@megaman010391 not with a tester thats been made in the past 3 years .... They have all been Moissanite testers. They all show up as diamond on the old testers .
@berty1807
@berty1807 4 жыл бұрын
@@megaman010391 BTW , A jeweler can tell the difference between a Moissanite and a a diamond without a loop or a tester (I know me and everyone I work with can). But they would not be able to tell if the stone has been lab grown or not. It's almost impossible without sending it to EGL or GIA. I just bought a $6,000 tester and it's already testing some lab growns as traditional. However, it is 80-90% accurate.
@okihaveaname
@okihaveaname 4 жыл бұрын
Who is a trusted seller of natural colored diamonds in southeast usa?
@josephbarnett3387
@josephbarnett3387 3 жыл бұрын
Is diamond nexus wack or is it something worth going for? I'm buying an engagement ring
@Dakkibaby20
@Dakkibaby20 4 жыл бұрын
Totally agree. My friend also had a lab grown which was very brilliant and beautiful, and within a couple of years the diamond turned this grayish color, not terribly noticeable, but it was definitely there. I was shocked and decided I was not going to invest in them, they aren't really that much cheaper...still a few thousand dollars for an eternity band. With my current solitaire necklace my cousin who is a jeweler told me she could sell it for about 15% less than what I paid, and in my book that's not too bad of depreciation. So for now I am sticking to natural diamonds!
@tigerlilly5232
@tigerlilly5232 2 жыл бұрын
are you sure it wasn't moissanite as they are known to turn grey
@rommelbondoc4521
@rommelbondoc4521 3 жыл бұрын
HI There i'm looking to buy a diamond about 3.5 karat or 4 karat can you help me to get the best price . natural diamond or lab diamond.
@punjab2144
@punjab2144 3 жыл бұрын
How much you guys will charge for vs2 clarity round diamond in 18k yellow gold ring with lab grown diamond ?
@ralfnoya8388
@ralfnoya8388 3 жыл бұрын
DeBeers does not intend to make engagement rings from lab grown diamonds, and the quality of their LG rocks are subpar, I suspect on purpose, otherwise they would cannibalize their bread & butter. What is the resale value of second hand diamond ring? A best-case scenario, expect to receive between 20% and 60% of original costs, if that.
@aaritdabral8202
@aaritdabral8202 9 ай бұрын
To be honest 80pc of the cost used to come from De Beers syndicate and artificial scarcity which is still being used as a reason to increase its price! If the natural players don’t clean up their act, it’s going to die for sure atleast in the Asian and African markets…
@jtag5432
@jtag5432 3 жыл бұрын
Cost of a natural diamond has nothing to do with Debeers' monopoly on supply?
@LPdeltaT
@LPdeltaT 3 жыл бұрын
1st lie mining and transportation of natural diamond is cheaper because they are done in 3rd world countries using free or cheap labor. Lab grown diamond are made in developed countries that pay fair wages.
@aubreebey1SD
@aubreebey1SD 3 жыл бұрын
Then you have to think of tariffs the retail price here and the price of inspecting them weeding out the bad ones grading them by time the get to store here the price is higher but they are not that expensive
@martinkunert5069
@martinkunert5069 2 жыл бұрын
The traditional blood diamond business will go the way of Blockbuster. "Investing" in blood diamonds is like investing in DVD's.
@Marcellus-ro4ko
@Marcellus-ro4ko 3 жыл бұрын
People buy diamonds to flex and look flashy and don’t even care if they are cvds or natural. In my opinion, you should just buy pure solid gold chains because they hold their value and look good.
@mpb5180
@mpb5180 4 жыл бұрын
Both are going to lose value as more lab grown are flooding the market.
@leo11877
@leo11877 4 жыл бұрын
How will someone tell difference between lab and mined diamonds? Anyone can make a fake certificate.
@samevans9113
@samevans9113 4 жыл бұрын
Even technology can't tell the difference
@uptownscenery9175
@uptownscenery9175 4 жыл бұрын
They can tell the difference lol. The producers of lab diamonds put serial# inside diamond 2 natural diamonds have imperfections labs are mostly flawless 3 they have tech to scan stones and prescious metals they are expensive.
@angelesepierre-louis5615
@angelesepierre-louis5615 3 жыл бұрын
@@uptownscenery9175 labs actually do have inclusions as well, that’s a myth that went around for some time. Sometimes their inclusions look different, but that’s only through one process of creation. Most lab diamonds will have very normal looking pinpoint inclusions. Also, as far as I know, there are labs that can be bought wholesale before they are sent to a grading lab, not all diamonds in general have a serial number. Aside from that, it has been shown time and time again that most jewelers can’t tell the difference at all even with some lab process red flags. There are not any machines that will test a lab diamond as a non diamond, and if they do it’s likely actually related to the clarity/inclusions of the diamond rather than the fact that it’s “not real”
@vantoanle2535
@vantoanle2535 3 жыл бұрын
More dangerous cost more in marked?
@danielwolk3576
@danielwolk3576 2 жыл бұрын
how would anyone know its lab grown if you sell it? Unless you say something in advance no one will know.
@mesdjz8294
@mesdjz8294 3 жыл бұрын
all the big fancy diamond companies will shut down in the next 5 years, this is inevitable because lob grown diamonds will become cheaper and cheaper and consumers can never know if the diamonds they get from Tiffany and co are real or lab-grown as they are identical
@team69racing11
@team69racing11 3 жыл бұрын
So when u see a super clear wit no flawz!! Well then u got fleeced!!
@elijahrose7913
@elijahrose7913 4 жыл бұрын
I over paid for my 2ct diamond cross necklace. Just found out a couple days ago the diamond are lab grown from a pawn shop. He denied the pawn immediately.
@tigerlilly5232
@tigerlilly5232 2 жыл бұрын
I know this is old but I am in interested to know how he knew it was lab grown if you had only just found out? Did it have any certificates with it, did it test positive on a diamond tester? Because a pawn shop would not be able to tell the difference between lab and natural as even De beers have a special machine to tell them apart
@SrtHemiPower
@SrtHemiPower 4 жыл бұрын
Will lab diamonds past on a diamond tester
@Austin1990
@Austin1990 4 жыл бұрын
More advanced spectral analysis machines can tell the difference between a created diamond and a mined diamond. So, it will not go well if you try to pass a created diamond as a natural diamond to a jeweler nor to your SO other who may eventually take it to a jeweler.
@thestud1881
@thestud1881 4 жыл бұрын
yes
@babydooll84
@babydooll84 4 жыл бұрын
Yes they do
@--emt
@--emt 4 жыл бұрын
@@Austin1990 not true at all
@Austin1990
@Austin1990 4 жыл бұрын
@@--emt Not true in what way? Diamond may have slight differences in its exact chemical structure and, thus, may be categorized into different types. The types created in labs are very rare in nature. Considering this, a spectral analysis may identify a diamond as natural or created with ~98% certainty. EDIT: It would be ironic if the natural diamonds of the same chemical types as created diamonds were actually created diamonds that Bebeers produced and falsely sold as natural diamonds.
@soffiamolinacitra5144
@soffiamolinacitra5144 3 жыл бұрын
I will only buy diamond because of its long lasting characteristic and it's really good for jewelry, so lab grown diamond is indeed my choice. As for investment, I prefer gold to diamond. The price increases all the time.
@natevic1867
@natevic1867 3 жыл бұрын
It’s laughable how people rush to spend thousands on the latest yeezys but diamonds are a ‘waste of money’. Buy whatever the hell you want... if you can afford it. I can afford real diamonds so I buy them. Not everyone buys stuff with the intention of reselling them. lol the amount of cope comments on here...
@darlamiller693
@darlamiller693 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your honesty! I've been trying to do research on this and it's nice to have someone talk about both sides
@joshuahoward3337
@joshuahoward3337 4 жыл бұрын
Just to let you know, this is one side of the argument considering it's being explained by a salesmen that works in a jewelry store. What he fails to mention is the likelihood of mined diamonds deflating just as much or even more than lab diamonds in the future.
@sylvia5623
@sylvia5623 4 жыл бұрын
Lol @ his "honesty". Buy a natural diamond and see how much he'd be willing to buy it off you. He'd probably pay you 1/2 price because diamond prices are unethically inflated to seem rare. Diamonds are not rare.
@robertlulek1634
@robertlulek1634 10 ай бұрын
Here is the scenario: Honey, I just bought a natural diamond of 10 carrots it cost hundreds of thousands of dollars it is one of the rarest jewels in the world! Because you mean that much to me the other scenario: Honey, I just purchased a 10 carat lab grown diamond. It's the same as the natural diamond except it was created in a lab. The blemishes on the diamond were created in a lab also and I'm not the same as a natural diamond. However, the natural diamond took thousands of years to create, and this lab ground diamond was created in a day in a lab! Lol which one do you think she would think would be the special diamond!
@wispy1792
@wispy1792 4 жыл бұрын
Tbh ion like diamonds I personally like Ruby’s and tanzanite
@pauls8620
@pauls8620 3 жыл бұрын
This topic is like poppy plants vs fentynal
@rosebirrell567
@rosebirrell567 2 жыл бұрын
Regular diamonds lose value too unless it's very rare stone. You can get estate rings as a rule much cheaper debates has been sitting on huge supplies forever and only releasing a few to vastly increase mark up. This video is overselling natural diamonds
@jesusruiz5367
@jesusruiz5367 3 жыл бұрын
Buy lab grown! Cheaper and shine just as bright
@mrembeh1848
@mrembeh1848 3 жыл бұрын
The cost from natural diamonds solely comes from monopoly. That’s it.
@mattjrk5679
@mattjrk5679 4 жыл бұрын
Just makes more sense to make real diamonds in a lab than hunting for them. I’m sure anyone with common sense will buy a lab. If someone wants to buy a natural one nice !
@clarel6252
@clarel6252 3 жыл бұрын
You just predicted the future man
@rachelchildress6823
@rachelchildress6823 2 жыл бұрын
I have both.i don't care about value because you sell them the stores rip you off.i will hand mine down
@crystalmaze3646
@crystalmaze3646 3 жыл бұрын
Diamonds are not an investment. Gold and Bitcoin is.
@EragoEntertainment
@EragoEntertainment 3 жыл бұрын
So basically what he is saying is that you shouldn't bother with diamonds at all until lab grown ones are super cheap because someone is flooding the market. And if your partner doesn't marry you unless you get them an expensive diamond ring, the marriage would have been superficial anyway and you should end it.
@maximhollandnederlandthene7640
@maximhollandnederlandthene7640 3 жыл бұрын
Diamonds lab or natural only make sense for traders, Customers buy means no investment, already a lost.
@angelcamacho1297
@angelcamacho1297 4 жыл бұрын
He’s talking as if we pay the people who collect the diamonds. At least lab grown diamonds are trace able and humane.
@XRemARx
@XRemARx 3 жыл бұрын
They’re not humane… thats what lab grown diamond makers want you to believe. They require an insane amount of electricity which comes from fossil fuels.
@stephennelson4964
@stephennelson4964 4 жыл бұрын
The Da Beers monopoly continues by driving competitors price down, I love it, I'm curious to what makes you think the real diamond will hold it's value in ten year?
@joshuahoward3337
@joshuahoward3337 4 жыл бұрын
@Jay Co They aren't scarce if you can create literally the exact same thing with the same material properties. Especially considering they're conflict free. Mined diamonds will deflate over time. Especially when the older generations are completely out of the market.
@mamabearC879
@mamabearC879 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@drostly3220
@drostly3220 2 жыл бұрын
Debeers bought out Gemesis back about a decade ago.. The owner of Genesis who was growing diamonds with tech he bought from Post Soviet auctions of tech that had been sitting on shelves brought it back and filled a warehouse full... He had videos on KZbin that have since been scrubbed off KZbin and the internet.. He said his goal was to put De Beers out of business.. After a meeting he had in Antwerp, the business was sold to De Beers, and the scrubbing was initiated. They had to build a better spectrometer to detect the extremely minute differences.. All diamonds should have dropped to the similar prices of mid range gem stones years ago.. Now, did De Beers threaten his life.. Probably, IMO,.. The owner told, in yOutube videos that his hard costs per carat were about $35-50 per karat and yellow were easier to make than clear but all colors could be done.. The highest costs are the middle men.. Has been and continues to be.. You are on point with the price prediction though.. 3Kt about $3.8 - 4.5K right now.. That still seems way high to me.. Thanks for the good information ✌
@zoeykillah
@zoeykillah 4 жыл бұрын
Highly appreciate the honesty
@joshuahoward3337
@joshuahoward3337 4 жыл бұрын
Before you buy a mined diamond, consider how you will feel if A) someone in the diamond industry is just telling you this so they can sell their investments at a premium. B) you'll have something on your finger for the rest of your life that was extracted using what's essentially slave labor. Lab Diamonds are by far and away the superior product. All diamonds will deflate once designers start using them, and the older generations are out of the market. if a diamond symbolizes love in an engagement ring, it's hypocritical to use a diamond that exploits the very people who dug it out of the ground.
@ramiabram6010
@ramiabram6010 3 жыл бұрын
If you sell them to jeweler can he tell if it is lab grown ???
@angelesepierre-louis5615
@angelesepierre-louis5615 3 жыл бұрын
The only way they could tell is the serial number inscribed into your stone, and not all stones have one, so technically no. At least if they can’t find an inscription
@ramiabram6010
@ramiabram6010 3 жыл бұрын
@@angelesepierre-louis5615 is it legal if I sell LG diamond as real without the buyer Knowledge
@angelesepierre-louis5615
@angelesepierre-louis5615 3 жыл бұрын
@@ramiabram6010 Honestly, I have no idea, it would depend on how strict certain market laws are in your area. The thing is, a lot of jewelers have done shadier things like selling a diamond as a certain quality by showing you another stone or by having deceitful lighting and carat weights on rings. At least if you were selling a lab grown as natural the person is getting the same specs that they paid for
@ramiabram6010
@ramiabram6010 3 жыл бұрын
@@angelesepierre-louis5615 thank you so much ⚘⚘⚘⚘I learned a lot
@lastnovicewins
@lastnovicewins 3 жыл бұрын
Stop spreading lies. Natural diamonds loose value massively too. At least with lab grown you pay less to begin with. That way you end up loosing less money with lab grown diamonds.
@rbeygarcia
@rbeygarcia 3 жыл бұрын
The jeweler’s a real babe, btw. Reminds me of Shawn Pyfrom off of Desperate Housewives.
@anonymousmc7727
@anonymousmc7727 3 жыл бұрын
Those prices are now not years from now
@keilspencer9244
@keilspencer9244 2 жыл бұрын
Look" if I pay for a real diamond, that's what I expect. if I ask for fake, or lab grown, that's what i expect if you give me moisonite, you will get a phone call from my lawyer.
@Hustler1856
@Hustler1856 3 жыл бұрын
The damand is high enough so the value of real diamonds will depreciate because lab diamonds can be created without inclusions and high clarity that jewelers will lose their butts on the diamonds they've dumped so much money on.
@LatinDanceVideos
@LatinDanceVideos 3 жыл бұрын
I was quoted $1100Au for a one carat diamond with colourless and internally flawless quality on a 14carat yellow gold band. So yeah, seems lab grown diamonds have dropped in price since he made this video
@gordonarnold7465
@gordonarnold7465 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You 👍 👉 Great info 👏 When I'm ready I will give you a call 🤙 Again Thanks 👍 Take Care Peace ✌️
@FatBellyChemist1234
@FatBellyChemist1234 10 ай бұрын
Lab grown diaminds should be used also in soaceships and stuff like that.
@StarOneSeblix
@StarOneSeblix 4 жыл бұрын
Lab diamonds real I know that already cuz I tested them
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