The Horrors of the Sorceress War Exposed [The Complete Unabridged Timeline of FF8]

[@FinalFantasyUnion]

For those looking for Chapter 1/2, you can find them here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/mJa3mYZ_hJuXjbc

[@dytgyfgyffuh243]

Please make a final fantasy 13 facts video

[@epsilongaming2160]

One of the few games I go back and replay still I've always been a FF fan

[@TPRpiano]

It's a genuine honour to have my little covers accompany your impassioned, dedicated content 💙

[@Valor72]

You are the goat TPR!

[@gothikamorbid000]

You are the best!

[@Bigmcc83]

FF8 was a game I played as a teenager and didn't fully understand the plot. Videos like this are helpful to give me more context and appreciate the story

[@rondeezy_thepancakeslayer1242]

@@aidansearle5023touch grass

[@Ryuoh]

​@aidansearle5023, nobody asked for your input either.

[@IWantBasterds]

Ff8 was shat out withtin a year after 7 success. It had a bs story. All the fan fanfare is cope. Nothing makes sense in this game.or why are guardian forces stored on a school pc and only ever used by you, wirhout any bearing on the srory other than a mcguffin plottwist halfway through the game. I learned to hate it over the years.

[@PharaohDom]

Same

[@rustygear447]

@@IWantBasterds FF7 story is also a bunch of BS LOL

[@iwearthegold]

I've completed VIII about 10 times over the past 25 years, but I'm still taken aback at quite how deep the lore is when laid out like this. You must've fine-tooth-combed the whole script a dozen times to catch it all. Already excited for part 3!

[@dmadaffari]

It’s this type of story telling that makes this game so much better than what we initially experienced playing it. Many of the writers were ahead of their times in terms of what they could actually physically put in the games, but their world building is second to none. With remakes now a standard talking point, this game could be well-received if redone utilizing all of this lore you have been putting out there that exists for this game. These videos make me enjoy the game even more than I already did. Excellent job!

[@twelfthknight]

This is kinda silly, but watching this made me realize that FFVIII's fashion is actually quite comfy. Final Fantasy and JRPGs in general are kind of stereotyped as having impractical rule-of-cool clothing, but I think I'd be fine wearing most of VIII's outfits casually. Not Dr. Odine's though, that collar would get scuffed pretty quick.

[@gorimbaud]

nomura's designs have always been inspired by tokyo streetwear, and the nature of viii's setting means their clothes get close enough that everything ends up looking extremely wearable! xiii's cast is also pretty good for this, at least for the characters from cocoon, while twewy is also worth mentioning, given the cast are literally tokyo streetkids.

[@Gregoroth_Durai]

So fun and wonderfully constructed from a narrative/storytelling perspective. Bravo! Excited for the next one and more long-form content in general.

[@janthummler3548]

The timing! Just two hours ago I scanned through your channel if the second part was already uploaded and I just missed it! Can't wait to follow you again into the lore, thanks for your work!

[@nicolasray1571]

This is the kind of world mythology that future mainline titles should pursue. A mix of technology and magic, with political intrigue baked in. I feel like this is the essence of Final Fantasy stories. Great deep dive!

[@travisty222]

6, 7, and 8 had this and even 10 to a point. I would love another venture into a steampunk world!

[@dytgyfgyffuh243]

​@@travisty222final fantasy 13 too

[@mrptr9013]

​@@travisty222what about 12?

[@jamesgravil9162]

Isn't that what ALL Final Fantasies are? Technology, magic and political intrigue. Plus a bit of romance with some comedy added in, usually.

[@mrptr9013]

​@@jamesgravil9162from 6 onwards, yes. Skipping 9. Tactics is very low technology compared to 12 wich is the same world at its peak. 13 is full on cyber magic punk while 15 is more like ff7 or 8 albeit with some bad execution here and there (I still find it cool).

[@phoenixboyz]

That so much rich history within FF8. This is an awesome documentary. Also the northern crate was due to artificial lunar cry? I always thought is a plot armour not to allow players to go to Esthar from north lol

[@djb5255]

I love you guys and I love simply reveling in our mutual love for Final Fantasy as a community that you guys cultivate.

[@gabrielbelouche3954]

I would 110% play a game of Laguna story even if the last boss fight is just bamboozling Adel

[@Mrclarke2171]

Thank you for tackling this story and I can't leave for the next content. This is probably the most detailed pieces of the story I've heard in a long time. Keep up the great work y'all and I can't wait for the next part!

[@Hushoo]

How was such an intriguing story hidden within this game? Absolutely jaw dropping to see Adel being fleshed out in this manner.

[@hpwilliams0]

Because it wasn’t in the actual game. A little bit of the minute details were, but this was all told way after the game came out because fans were mad about how bad the lore was compared to 7.

[@leonvalentine3748]

The game was cut in half. They initially wanted it 50/50 between Squall and Laguna. Half.in the past, half in the present. I assume much of the Laguna section, which was cut out, had information 9n the sorceress wars.

[@IWantBasterds]

It wasnt. This is 25 years of fan fiction. Ff8 was rushed within a year after vii.

[@sharp7j]

It was in the game. You just have to read the documents in the menus, talk to NPCs, pay close attention etc.

[@IWantBasterds]

@@sharp7j jeah jeah, a masterpiece written within a year. Only took 25 years to cope this masterfull story together.

[@Beastlango]

Another amazing video about my favorite FF game. The deep has made a lot of the seemingly disconnected bits come together in a very coherent way

[@dustindawkins7200]

I have played through FF8 several times.. it was my very first (and therefore special to me) FF game, and seeing this made me realize that in the grand scheme of the game lore I still knew almost nothing about it. Very deep and comprehensive look.

[@Bardic_Knowledge]

I honestly didn't realize that Adel's imprisonment was so recent to when the Squall side of things takes place.

[@gorimbaud]

well yeah, it happened right at the end of laguna's arc, so it would've happened around the time squall was born

[@mjbuffalo716]

This is SO well written and all encompassing! Thank you for highlighting such a complex story that has always hidden just below the surface 🤯 I really want an VIII prequel now!!

[@FinalFantasyUnion]

Thank you so much for the kind words, it really means a lot. ~Darryl

[@adammatlack4667]

Man, this makes Final fantasy VIII's story actually pretty good. I never knew a lot of this! If this installment is ever graced with a remake, these expansive elements should be carefully considered.

[@omensoffate]

The story is all there From npc dialogue and data logs. People just think the story is bad from memory

[@adammatlack4667]

@omensoffate I think some of people's beliefs in a bad story is due to some comic reviews of the game. I never thought it was bad, but I do think it's in bad need of cleaning up. More of the "supplemental" story needs to be included in the "active" story, and needs to be tightened up a bit. With that, I think it could be on par with RPGs that set a benchmark for an amazing story. FFVIII is particularly dear to me. I'd love to see it get a remake that refreshes it for contemporary gaming, but shows those who grew up with it what can really do.

[@glengreer9614]

Man, Final Fantasy VIII is so underrated. I go back and forth on which is my favorite (between VII and VIII), but right now, I’m leaning VIII. Thank you for your hard work on this series exploring the lore! I eagerly await future installments!

[@rustygear447]

I have always liked 8 more than 7. My favorite is 10 though

[@YouaNumbahOneRacist]

5:40 That's funny Leviathan is being used on a chimera. That's one of the few enemies that will fully absorb it.

[@MissDerpina2606]

Good job with the research and video.

[@shadowofchaos725]

I love the plot clarifications because I didn't get crap while I was a teenager... BUT THE BIGGEST THING WAS YOU MAKING CLEAR WHAT THAT HUGE CRATER WAS NEAR TRABIA THANK YOU

[@dawsonbusenbark3945]

FF 8 is not just my favorite Final Fantasy, it is my favorite game of all time 😍 thank you SO much for your granular examination of it! 🎉 Cannot wait for part 3!

[@GlacierRain]

seeing someone say FF8 is their favorite fills my heart with joy

[@musicalcats7889]

Final fantasy VIII was my first game in the franchise and is still one of my favorites. I thought I knew pretty much everything about it because I have played it so many times, but I am finding out so much new information from this long-form content. Thank you so much for all the work you and your team do to bring us fans these videos. We really appreciate them.❤

[@gibakigamer4041]

Final Fantasy 8 taught me that there can be a entire world in a video game awesome video

[@Ezmonator]

I've been eagerly waiting for this next part of FF8's story. I never realised how deep its lore was. Now to eagerly await part 3!

[@Beastlango]

Keep these videos and split them as needed, I’ll eat them all up. When you’re done I would this for 7 and 10, my next 2 favorite FF games

[@MrRemmington]

FF VIII has been my favourite game for over 20 years now, I love any video talking about it and its rich lore

[@DrStunJosh]

So I’m 31 and I just played FFVIII for the first time this past August-these past vids have been great cause there was a lot of lore and story I missed either due to lack of understanding context clues or (sorry VIII fans) boredum in some points, to say nothing of pacing concerns I had. So, I’m really enjoying getting the refresher and crash course.

[@amos7458]

Love a new long form video from FF Union

[@rrickydanby]

Nice I just refreshed myself on pt 1 yesterday!

[@Martyste]

42:19 HUH SO THAT'S WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WITH WARD. Let me explain. In the french script of the game, instead of being injured to the throat, Ward takes the quote "'If you say something bad...." VERY seriously, and declares, in a 4th wall break, that he will no longer say a word to the "very end of the game". Laguna tries to get him to speak by calling him "FAT", to no avail. Also, to emphasize how bad the french translation was in this particular spot of the game, the quote is first attibuted to Kiros's grandmother, then to Laguna's 10 seconds later! It makes no sense at all! In fact, this problem applies in general to the whole backstory of the game, reasonnably unclear in english, but completely ignored and butchered in french, leading to mass confusion around Hyne, Adel and Ultimecia, and why they are the way they are. Your video here serves as an immense help resyncing everyone's watches.

[@gothikamorbid000]

Enjoyed both the videos so much! Ff8 is my favorite and will al always have a special place for me. Its interesting how this video covered on a lot that I did not even know of. Thanks for making such entertaining videos. Waiting for a part 3 that covers current timeline and the future (cid and edea, orphanage, making of garden, ultimecia, griever, seeds figting across generations etc)

[@thejohnkaufman]

Oh, the forests of Timber sure have changed!

[@Coffeemancer]

But the owls are still around

[@junoman1859]

Thank you for the great work in putting this all together! This was a major game in my childhood, and SOOO much of this plot was lost to me at the time. It goes to show me how much effort went into the worldbuilding of this game!

[@SaltedMallows]

ngl i had this video on in the background for like 40 minutes before remembering it was playing, thinking "what am i listening to" and still being no closer to understanding Final Fantasy 8 that I ever was Lol.

[@LK.Cynric]

Brilliant video! I honestly had no idea about any of this lore and both videos were fantastic. Love the presentation, story telling, everything! 10/10.

[@GlacierRain]

Thank you so much for taking the time and effort to explain the details of the story. It really makes me look more fondly back at my time playing FF8....other than drawing magic for so long... looking forward to the next one

[@maikolverasson1735]

Thank you for giving FF8 deserved attention

[@morteaux3662]

Amazing video! Great idea focusing on just story of Laguna and his point of view :)

[@davidbruno9041]

YES!!!! PART TWO BABY!! The first part had me so enamored to play VIII again.

[@aster4jaden]

I'd like for a FF8 Game that takes place during the Sorceress War, Adel is a Antagonist i'd love to see in action at her prime and possibly other Sorceresses.

[@Nox-q8k]

It's crazy how "Eyes On Me" became such a hit IRL as it did in the game, it really is a masterpiece all on its own.

[@Coachc853]

I am so glad someone is finally going into greater detail! You only ever hear about it in passing moments.

[@saladinboss2507]

Part III: Laguna turns into Liam Neeson. Lol Bravo FFU!!! It is content like this that keeps the passion alive for these games.

[@xorowl1584]

hmmm didn't get to the end of the war though and how Adel was captured and is currently screaming into radio frequencies jamming all communication on the planet great video

[@FinalFantasyUnion]

#pleasebeexcited for Part 3 :) ~Darryl

[@kainrich6183]

Nice!! Excited for part 3

[@xorowl1584]

@@FinalFantasyUnion you have my full hype

[@tessier-ashpool3462]

Appreciate the time it took to make this. Love what you guys create!

[@sawyerstudio]

I finally discovered a program called antimicro that lets me map my keyboard to my controller so i can play this on steam, it would never work for me and i dont know how to get ps1 emulators to work lol, so i can now revisit my favorite game from my youth! These videos are really great. ❤

[@shinobimanexe]

This game has been with me all of my life. I even have a gunblade hanging on my wall in acknowledgement of its effect on me. I always knew the story but never had the ability to truly put it all together in my head. This really helped to make clear something very deeply hidden in more recent final fantasy entries. Sakaguchi, Nomura, Takahashi and the various other writers of Square where well aware of how tragic history can be. It's almost like the purpose of writing these games were to help people work through the emotions and fears we would hold in our generation. I can't help but think of Machiavelli, Tsun-Tsu, and John Locke whenever I look at the stories of the final fantasies outside of the perspectives of the main characters. This once again really helped with that. this also keeps reminding me of the questions each game asks its player without them realizing it every time they play through these stories: What is it that separates those who live a normal life, from those who will be written in the annals of history? What did it take to make those people grab a hold of their destinies and fight to change the world they live in. Can we, the holder of the controllers hear the manifesto to change the world... can we do so? I think maybe. but only if we can break our shackles of fear, our dependence on comfort and find the emotional and mental state that allows us to burn brightly and relentlessly until the fire can burn no more. I'm American. I am sad to be one. I am sad for monsters are pulling puppet strings everywhere and I feel helpless and hopeless on how to stop the violence or repent for the sins of our country. For now all I can do is hope that this inspiriation and my life experiences help me to cook up a way to help make things better for someone somewhere. Thank you for this video. I needed it to process a part of my own feelings.

[@calvinthurston1441]

Again love this type of stuff! I knew a good portion but always so cool to see how much is really there! Keep it up!

[@joaquin9184]

Amazing work! I enjoyed it like a child. Thank you so much for the video! 💚

[@aronarvelo6242]

While playing as Laguna, there is a galbadian sergeant in the hotel. That has a thought bubble about sending Laguna and Co away out of jealousy over Julia. I always assumed that's was why they were picked for the mission.

[@timparks9833]

FF8’s hidden lore is something that was way ahead of its time. If this would have come out post-Dark Souls where people began appreciating having lore you need to work at piecing together, it would be viewed so much differently.

[@Drewbe821]

There is a reason I love FF8. The lore is a critical part of that. Thank you for showing the greater public how flavorful it is.

[@sillystring2121]

im so happy to see ffviii covered more and getting the love it deserves

[@NemisizFury]

Another great story, thank you for your dedication to all that is final fantasy.

[@maggiebrinkley4760]

Thank you! This is yet another fascinating video, I love your in-depth explorations of Final Fantasy. Appreciated!

[@meiomeio]

Now i must watch part 1 💖 thank you for this!

[@alexanderlopatin3727]

Terrific-made me look fondly at the ambitious, if scatterbrained, storytelling of ff8

[@StriderWolf]

these are the best videos on FF8 and I really wanna thank you for these. its my favorite FF game and these deep lore dives are just making me appreciate it even more.

[@phreak811]

There is SOOO much more to this game than I ever THOUGHT!

[@kazen16]

I played this game as a kid, I didn't know it has all these story. Now I want to play it again! Thanks!!!!

[@jjackjenkins]

Love the details of this series! So much I never knew.

[@Kuunpoika]

Thanks for this! I really hope that in my lifetime, this beautiful game gets proper remake! It really, REALLY deserves it!

[@virtualbunksie5117]

Could you please do 13 to thie depth of this part 1 and 2. This is amazing.

[@flareinc7413]

Loving these videos about FF8:s deeper lore. Thank you for making these ^_^

[@vigo2669]

3:22 Kid: Mom I want Prof. Hojo! Mom: We have Prof. Hojo at home. Prof. Hojo at home:

[@jjboonzaier]

This and the previous part was truly amazing, what great world building for one of my favourite games of all time. Thank you ❤

[@jono2844]

This was absolutely amazing. I love Final Fantasy 8 and this only adds to it.

[@metalfingers2129]

Thank you for doing these! This game doesnt get the love it deserves.

[@under0ath109]

This watch was a very very good one. I'm very excited for part III.

[@zakuronakashima]

Dang this is exciting! I cant wait til we get to Ultimecia. I dunno why I love her so much, but I do. I need to hear her story and I need to know if Im remembering something incorrectly or not. What was the actual reason she wanted to compress time again?

[@jeanschyso]

She inherited the power of a sorceress and became fearful of the rest of the world's reaction to that. She knew about what happened to previous sorceresses and wouldn't let anyone do that to her. She would control the world. In order to gain more power, she devised a way to absorb the power of previous sorceresses. By merging time in one point, she could basically create a universe where two or more sorceresses exist at once, enabling this absorbtion. With the power of all sorceresses combined, she would control reality and be truly safe from the unwashed populace. That is my own theory after finishing the game a dozen times as a kid and then trying to remember it about 20? years later.

[@gorimbaud]

the biggest peek into ultimecia's motivations were in the speech she gave through edea in deling city at the end of disc 1

[@ChBoler]

Hey! Random question - I pre-ordered a FF themed book from this channel awhile ago and it kind of vanished into the void. Is there any way to check on the status of the order?

[@FinalFantasyUnion]

Absolutely! Ping me an email with your order details and I can check what's up ~Darryl

[@jedirayden]

I was replaying FF8 recently on Xbox One, and aside from having a bit of trouble getting down the rhythm of "firing" Squall's gunblade in normal combat and during Renzokuken like I used to be able to do without even thinking about it... I was having fun abusing cards, as I definitely hadn't taken advantage of 25 years ago when I was 18 or 19... It all fell apart when I got to "Disc 2" and I remembered how disjointed the narrative is there, constantly jumping back and forth between groups of my party members and Laguna, Kiros and Ward... That was always the point where I just lost interest in the plot because I never felt like I got enough time with any group... I'd just start getting interested in what they were getting into, and then I'm off to a new group. That said, lot of long quiet winter months ahead... I'll probably wind up diving back in and finishing the game. It's been too many years.

[@ElTaitronAnim]

Great video, I'm looking forward to the rest.

[@DuduDrewinski]

Impressive work! FF8 kicks ass!

[@cliffsangelsphotography]

I need more. It brings back a lot of food memories of FF8. Though FF7 was my first and i love it, FF8 resonated with me more.

[@Lastkoss]

This was very informative. Thank you for the ff8 history lesson.

[@5r3t5n0m]

Was it a cloudy day with a chance of rain when Laguna left; or was it the other way around?

[@davidgeorge3944]

I'm here early and I feel great, to listen to more lore of Final fantasy 8! Here we go! 😊

[@Mrbuchnev1]

awesome! waiting for the next part!

[@ty_sylicus]

I had no idea Final Fantasy VIII was this deep.

[@craigmcc13]

Great video!

[@justinjones7506]

Can't wait for the next episode!

[@zetaguardian]

You probably already did but I'd there a lore video you can do for Odin. I've always been curious of his background

[@yeahsure.6083]

Been waiting for part 2. I also have a lot of reasons to believe that FF8 and rwby are set in the same universe, and planet.

[@aurelienellena8138]

thanks for all truely, I love those lore videos

[@dannydavis18]

Didn't really understand the full story when it first came out years ago and i was only about 12, but i still enjoyed it, now years later and many playthroughs and i understand the story I still enjoy the game.

[@sanyo_neezy]

Thank you for the effort

[@subzero4579]

Great videos!

[@mikec5400]

i was truly bummed out when i was hit with the "to be continued" on the screen.

[@xSeraphIV]

Cant wait for the next part!

[@OverlordZeroULTIMA]

I won't lie, I always loved seeing Kiros. I wish he was in more FF games, and not just as a side character or support, etc. The story for this game was admittedly super confusing for my ND brain, but I still liked FF8 more than 7. I definitely loved the fight themes in this one as well.

[@viseman9253]

calming and so enjoyable

[@samgreenmusichq]

Great video 😊😊

[@a.d.woodbury]

What an amazing series. Can’t wait for the next chapter. FFVIII was always my favorite. It was my first in the series - quickly followed by VII, which I thought was wonderful but still flawed in several ways that I didn’t see in VIII. Made me appreciate it even more. In dialogue mostly, a bit immature at the wrong times/some story points that are particularly “video-gamey“. Little things I can easily forgive given the period. When IX came out, I was so disappointed to see them revert back into that immaturity - and in greater ways. While I understand now why it is the way it is (and respect their commitment to pay homage), I think VIII is vastly superior and more inciting of a world to wonder around in. And then I grow up and find out that nobody feels anything like I do. VIII is just a total mess and shouldn’t even be listed among the other installments - IX was FF’s saving grace. Blah-blah-blah… And that’s just me being dramatic, because IX kicks ass - just in a different way. And the same is true of almost every other installment. I just come back to VIII the easiest. Because of essays like these mostly. I’m very thankful.

[@TheAfterglowProject]

Wait. Dollet was an empire? And it was holy? Is there something in the game that I missed?? I’m at 8:20

[@abdieljove2011]

Did you watch part 1 of this video? It explains everything.

[@kieranvauls9180]

This is amazing but is it canon from other sources or just pieced together? I really need to know!

[@rohy85]

These are so amazing ❤❤❤