The Hyperdispensationalism Showdown - Dr. Peter Ruckman vs. E. C. Moore: Who Takes the Crown?

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

Ruckman was a very influential dispensationalist and that is why he is represented here. What is more, the toxic fight among dispensationalists will continue forever because he was EXTREMELY aggressive against everybody not sharing/copying/glorifying his opinion and this to an extent every decent listener will feel ashamed that such a well-known teacher as Ruckman publishes such a narcissistic "spiritual amok run" WITHIN the born-again dispensational trench. I am still absolutely shocked how people still glorify him almost to a degree the Catholics do with Mary, the mother of Jesus (especially his PBI-parrots who all want to be like him, I know some of them personally and I am deeply depressed how they treat other brethren and even justify this citing Ruckman). Well, as you can hear in this tape, he reveals himself as the overlord of the fruit(s) of the spirit in Galatians (irony). Ruckmanites, kill your idol! Believers need to know this in order to be able to demystify and deglorify him based on undeniable facts, and that is exactly why this tape is published here.

[@lumix2477]

Amen. It's too upsetting for me to pay attention to. We're supposed to leave off contention/ strife before it increases to more ungodliness. When I get confronted I try to not take it personally because we wrestle not against flesh and blood and I want to be blameless and perfect so that the person might repent who was against rightly dividing the word of truth. Not much longer and there won't be any more of this prideful nonsense. All will be judged. Nothing I can do anyway. Might as well just take it easy and be pleasing to Father. Have a good night. Grace and peace in Jesus name Amen

[@shilohgeorge4394]

Aren’t you doing the same thing here that you are accusing Ruckman of?

[@lumix2477]

I sure hope we aren't teaching hatred of others. We want love and peace. I let Ruckman infect me with his hatred and I'm trying to undo the damage. I already had anger problems like many men and Ruckman made me think I had some righteous hatred of hyperdispensationalists. Thank God for letting me see that poor Ruckman was just confused and had short man syndrome. I'm tall and he was making me act like I had short man's syndrome because he's so influential. We don't want you to hate anyone. In fact the opposite. Have a good day in Jesus name Amen.

[@larrynelson3329]

Toxic fight among dispensationalists is about rightly or wrongly dividing the scriptures. Dr. Ruckman was just a man. So was Paul and the Hyper dispensationalists hold him up as a Catholic Mary imo.

[@lumix2477]

Paul was least among the least. He says so himself in the Holy scriptures, so it doesn't matter what any man thinks. There is only One who is good.....

[@larrynelson3329]

Dr Ruckman hands down

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

Even if you take his theological position, how do you like his treatment of E.C. Moore as a person, born again brother and former teacher at his institute?

[@timbuckman1232]

@@DISPENSATIONALISTEN Proverbs 27:6 Faithful are the wounds of a friend; but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful.

[@JamesBrown-fd1nv]

​@@DISPENSATIONALISTEN Just stop the virtue signaling, everyone that teaches falsely must be reproved, period. Did you scold Jesus for calling the Pharisees and Sadducees vipers in front of people?

[@Isaiah_Cochran]

Been really studying all these incredibly smart men lately. Doc has always took the genius cake ahah. Nothing quite like hearing both sides of an argument. For the life of me I don't know why people hate doing it, even when it cuts down like 3x as much studying time!

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

Thank you - hearing both perspectives is part of STUDYING the scriptures and that is exactly what this channel is for! Keep studying! Best!

[@JamesBrown-fd1nv]

Ruckman exposed the ignorance of most Christian teaching and those soft Christians that are hung up on his tone should thank him and get on with it.

[@christopherbouman160]

E.c Moore all the way. He’s great.

[@jackpata2324]

Rom.16:25 "preaching of Jesus Christ according to the revelation of the Mystery", which had been HID in Christ Before the world began But is Now made known".

[@bugsocsollie1694]

Ruckman was a great man of God, but he didn't preach on the mysteries. He didn't acknowledge them or understand them. Colossians 2:2 So how could he have seen the fellowship of the mystery that God wants all men to see? Ephesians 3:9 Very few people see it. I guess if God wants all men to see it, then Satan wants no one to see it. Most of these people think they are spiritual Israel.

[@sirpaul5054]

​@@bugsocsollie1694 that makes me think about what Paul says in ‭1 Corinthians 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.

[@bugsocsollie1694]

@sirpaul5054 Exactly right. And it's because they don't acknowledge the mysteries or understand the mysteries, that there is no unity (Colossians 2:2). It's the reason so many denominations out there. They are all taking bits and pieces of Israel's doctrine and applying it to the Body of Christ Church.

[@bugsocsollie1694]

@Daiyve Paul Lucas is really good but look for his older stuff (a year or two old), because he's really deep lately. Hope Bible church, also. And Grace ambassadors is another really good one. You can search a lot of these by searching "right division" or "rightly dividing." But the one who started it all off for me was "two Gospels." I went blank on the guys name, but if I remember it, I'll edit it in. Probably the best to start out with is Hope Bible Church.

[@bugsocsollie1694]

@Daiyve You'll come across preachers from the '80s and earlier as you look into it. People have only been reading the Bible for themselves for little over a hundred years. The Truth had to come out at some point.

[@danhardin7243]

Just like Acts 19 what people seem to forget is if John the Baptist had a DIFFERENT BAPTISM then WHY WAS NOT ALL THE DISCIPLES REBAPTIZED? Because John's baptism was THE SAME NEW TESTAMENT BAPTISM taught by Christ in Matthew 28!

[@joint-heirwithchrist5241]

E.C running circles around Ruckman and his baptismal tank of H2o. Interesting Ruckman doesn't understand Paul just wants Timothy to teach Grace Which was Paul's gospel and not law. which was what the Jews wanted to stay under.

[@JamesBrown-fd1nv]

Laughable, but ok.

[@jackpata2324]

No baptisms today at all.Before Nor after salvation,today of the MYSTERY the Church of Jesus Christ. Of the Grace of God.

[@gracefaith6699]

Paul does say that there is 1 baptism in Ephesians 4:5. It's not water but Spirit, CORINTHIANS 12:13. Without Spirit baptism, no one gets into the Body of Christ.

[@Dispensational]

"Drycleaners" like Ruckman puts it because the hypers preaching is as dry as their baptisms. As someone who has dealt with hypers in Baptist churches I 100% agree with Ruckman. All they do is infiltrate Baptist churches to teach their nonsense.

[@sgchannel777]

Baptism is applicable but in 2 sense ,first you will be baptize in the spirit to be added to the the body of Christ 1 Cor. 12:13 .You will be baptize in water (Acts 2:41)to be added to the local church but not the body of Christ . Thus the body of Christ is different from the local church. Everyone can be a member of a local church but not sure if they are truly saved and part of the body of Christ .

[@311hitwall]

@@sgchannel777 Where is anything in the scripture saying that you must be baptized to be added to the local church? I know some Baptists make it a requirement to join their church but i have never found that to be biblical.

[@telefellavision]

​@@311hitwallit's not a church building or denomination that you're doing it for. ‭‭John 3:5 KJV‬‬ [5] Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. *Peter getting baptized ‭‭Acts 22:16 KJV‬‬ [16] And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord. ‭‭Acts 10:45-48 KJV‬‬ [45] And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. [46] For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, [47] Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? [48] And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

[@gracefaith6699]

Having set in E.C.Moores classes for yrs, Ruckman is being dishonest of his assessment of Moore. All of the bible is for us, but obviously, it's not all to us. Romans 9:4-5 KJV who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen. Either ALL trespasses are forgiven, or we must forgive to get forgiveness. Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; Mathew 18:35 So likewise shall my heavenly Father do also unto you, if ye from your hearts forgive not every one his brother their trespasses. Also, for those of you who desire to follow the Doctrine that belongs to Israel, don't forget to pluck out your eyeballs when they offend you.

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

Hi there, thank you for your comment! So you knew E.C. Moore personally? Could you please describe the relationship Ruckman - Moore after they broke up? I feel that even decades after that, the "fanboys" are perpetuating the battle these men fought against each other continues in Hooligan - style to this day. I would love to learn more about that!

[@krashkwads4688]

@@DISPENSATIONALISTEN I live in Mobile and have heard of this from former contemporaries of the men. I have some studies I recorded of Percy Peters very interesting. Apparently E.C. Moore gave Ruckman an ultimatum about teaching and promoting water baptism and they broke ways after that....God sent Paul NOT TO BAPTIZE but to preach the Gospel....Percy passed a couple months ago

[@jackpata2324]

Ephesians 4 :1- " One Lord One God ,One Spirit And ONLY One BAPTISM 1Corinthians 12:13 by the Spirit INTO CHRIST.( ONE means ONE ,not two.

[@telefellavision]

That's because the baptism of water and the baptism of the spirit is one in the same. They are inseparable. *Gentiles being baptized "after" receiving the Holy Spirit: ‭‭Acts 10:45-48 KJV‬‬ [45] And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. [46] For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, [47] Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we? [48] And he commanded them to be baptized in the name of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days. Receiving the Holy Spirit "after" baptism: ‭‭Acts 19:2-6 KJV‬‬ [2] he said unto them, Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost. [3] And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism. [4] Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus. [5] When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. [6] And when Paul had laid his hands upon them, the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied.

[@daniellogue3702]

If you read the WHOLE Bible you would understand the context of what you think you know… John 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Why did the channel post Ruckman if he can’t stand Ruckman? Couldn’t find an audience? None of you cowards said anything when he was alive. All the roaches came out of the wood work after the man died. Pathetic. The Bible isn’t just Paul’s books. Better read it all…

[@mercinc2926]

Right so why did Phillip baptize the Ethiopian in WATER?

[@mercinc2926]

‭1 Peter 3:21 ESV‬ [21] Baptism, which corresponds to this, now saves you, not as a removal of dirt from the body but as an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ Does this not speak of water baptism how are yall this blind.

[@SimplyProtestantBibleBeliever]

Personally, I am far more fond of Dr. Peter Ruckman than EC Moore but through my study of his dispensationalism I have discovered exactly what this recording demonstrates. Dr. Ruckman learned the Mid-Acts position and adopted its presuppositions and saw water baptism MIGHT be in jeopardy and purposefully disagreed with Mid-Acts teachers to distance himself. Anyone outside of Dr. Ruckman's camp would classify him as Mid-Acts but just ridiculously inconsistent. Once you concede that the program in Acts 2-7 is NOT for this dispensation (which Dr. Ruckman conceded) you have conceded too much to logically mantain the early-Acts position. This is why Charles Ryrie (for example) will say Peter in Acts 2 IS preaching the gospel of grace (this is someone who is consistently an early-Acts dispensationalist). What's happening here is simply Dr. Ruckman (like we all are) is inconsistent and sometimes would go with the the jewels the Mid-Acts position brings from the biblical text but then sometimes he would go against HIS OWN POSITION in order simply to disagree with Mid-Acts teachers (especially EC Moore, whom he obviously had some personal problems with) to distance himself, since "they're the Dry Cleaners, and we're Bible-believing Baptists". Dr. Ruckman would refute himself, and goes even further than the Acts 2 inconsistency and He admits what Jude writes (definitely after Acts 15) “is not what the apostles delivered to the saints in Acts 15:26-27; nor is it close to it" (The General Epistles Vol. 2 (1 - 2 - 3 John, Jude) pg. 240)… "“there are three verses in Jude that look like Paul could have written them; verses 20, 21, and 24 would almost make it but not quite, because there is that confounded “keep yourselves in the love of God.” Nosiree, not one time in anything Paul ever wrote does that appear. Paul said NOTHING could keep you OUT of “the love of God” (Rom. 8:38-39); you were in it permanently.” (pg. 242). So he goes even further & CONCEDES that AFTER ACTS 15 Jude (& he quotes 2 Peter and 1-3 John saying the same thing) is STILL writing one can "lose their salvation" and looking for the 70th Week ACCORDING TO DR. RUCKMAN HIMSELF. If it is a problem for Moore to teach this about the twelve apostles and their epistles, Dr. Ruckman has placed himself in the exact same hole that he says Moore is in because of his own inconsistency with his own position. Now I have some more quotes that are even more shocking in light of how he critiques EC Moore here: “In the Tribulation, there is a new birth that occurs in the believer when he trusts in Christ. He is even placed in an organic body that is said to be “in the Lord” (Rev. 14:13; John 15:1-14). But watch out! That body is not the Body of Christ in which the New Testament believer is placed by the Holy Spirit at salvation (1 Cor. 12:13). The organic body of believers in Christ in the Tribulation is called “the true vine” (John 15:1). The Tribulation saint is not “a member in the body” (1 Cor. 12); he is “a branch on the vine” (John 15).” (General Epistles Vol. 1 (James, 1 - 2 Peter). pg. 186) Wow! Look at Dr. Ruckman teaching two bodies just like he accused EC Moore (of course the Mid-Acts position does not hold whatsoever that there are two bodies of Christ at all at any time past or future). At the end of this video he mocks that EC Moore says the church at Jerusalem (which is in Christ but not in the body of Christ) died out, yet this is exactly what Dr. Ruckman taught: "“While there were, by Acts 21, “many thousands of Jews” which believed (Acts 21:20), the majority followed their leaders who had rejected Christ...From Acts 28:28 on, the “many thousands of Jews,” which dwelt in Jerusalem and believed, died out or were dispersed in A.D. 70.” (Peter S. Ruckman, The Book of Romans (Pensacola: BB Bookstore, 2003, Reprint 2016) 347-8) Isn't that something? Dr. Ruckman recognized Stam & O'Hair & Bullinger (who is not connected with the Mid-Acts movement since Bullinger took the Acts 28 position late in his life) in the line of progressive revelation to the Church: “The light God gave on Dispensationalism, He gave through Larkin, Pember, Scofield, and Stam.” (Peter S. Ruckman, The Book of Job (Pensacola: BB Bookstore, 1978, Revised 1993) 614). “I’ll guarantee you that Calvin and Luther didn’t discover all THE TRUTH there was in the Bible: any Bible. And I’ll guarantee the Lord has a lot more truth to show from His precious word than I have found out. I begin where Bullinger quit. Bullinger began where Stam quit. Stam began where Larkin quit. Larkin began where Scofield quit. And the average Christian college is teaching the material from 1909.” (Peter S. Ruckman, Theological Studies Volume 2 (Pensacola: BB Bookstore, 1998) 985). "That is why there has been no advanced revelation from the Holy Spirit from 1909 until the present time. The last thing the Holy Spirit ever revealed, along Biblical lines, was revealed to Bullinger, J. C. O’Hare, Arthur W. Pink, Clarence Larkin, and C. I. Scofield-more than fifty years ago! ” (Peter S. Ruckman, The Book of Revelation (Pensacola: BB Bookstore, 1970, 2012 Reprint) 715-716) “Ethelbert Bullinger probably grasped more Biblical truth for a Hebrew and Greek scholar than any man in the nineteenth or twentieth century. He had no trouble finding the Premillennial truths of New Testament nor any trouble in rightly dividing matters that differed between the Church and Israel” ("Using 'The Original Greek' To Prevent Young People Form Learning Bible Truth ", Bible Believers Bulletin, Dr. Peter S. Ruckman, Feb. 1982) Like I said, what's happening here is simply Dr. Ruckman (like we all are) is inconsistent and sometimes would go with the the jewels the Mid-Acts position brings from the biblical text and then other times he would go against HIS OWN POSITION in order simply to disagree with Mid-Acts teachers (especially EC Moore, whom he obviously had some personal problems with).

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

Thank you for your fantastic comment, which by the way is the first on this channel! Your knowledge about dispensationalism is impressive! Thanks again, I am delighted!

[@SimplyProtestantBibleBeliever]

@@DISPENSATIONALISTEN My pleasure brother! The Lord bless you!

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

May the Lord bless you richely, brother!

[@lumix2477]

​​@@SimplyProtestantBibleBelieverThat's incredible! I'm glad I found this! I'm 36 years old and haven't been to church since I was a kid. The first church I walk in, here in northeast Tennessee, the pastor comes up and tells me that he is from Pensacola. And I said no way! Do you know who Peter Ruckman is? And he was surprised and said that he used to drive Peter Ruckman's church bus LoL! He was part of the church that became mid Acts and split. They hung onto their water baptism and some traditions though. I'm not complaining I'm happy to have a church that I can go to. They are not dogmatic about water baptism and haven't even asked me about it yet. I have never been baptized and I'm not going to be (with water). I'm just now learning about what mid Acts is. Very glad to be on the right path. My life has changed drastically in the past year. All glory to King Jesus Christ forever and ever Amen

[@lumix2477]

​@@DISPENSATIONALISTENthank you so much! I am finally figuring out that I am a mid Acts dispensationalist. You have everything that I was looking for here. I'll be watching all the videos on this channel and taking notes. All glory to King Jesus Christ forever and ever Amen

[@timchess2313]

Am interested in reposting this video to my you tube channel with your permission?

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

Permission granted, although I have the impression that you are glorifying "Mr. Know it all" and "The one and only real bible believer and teacher" like all Ruckman - Parrots do 24/7/365. Ruckmanites are ultra-aggressive and ultra-divisive, I know many of them personally and with a heavy heart, left a Ruckmanite local church. Their hatred for all others, even born-again members of the body of Christ, is endless. Their glorification of their guru is endless. All non-Ruckmanites are considered the lowest of the low, vermin. This is a disgusting narcissistic cult revolving around the alleged grandiosity and superiority of their one and only guru. Sad but true. IN GENERAL: Beware of "gurus" in the church, in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ!

[@uswvme862]

@@PezintI’m a young man who has found Ruckman’s theories interesting very interesting, but I try not to be rigid by accepting that everyone cannot travel down the same act road. You simply go as far as you can down the right road, with them, and part ways politely on the points that you differ. I will say, I think Ruckman taught his students to be graceful, but he simply didn’t overemphasize it, and thereby some people may forget to do so. One thing I don’t agree with is the belief that everything he said and taught was correct - that’s nearly blasphemous

[@uswvme862]

@@Pezint I haven’t heard of Sonship Edification, so far, yet. I’ll make sure to take heed by double checking the Scriptures before believing anything. I also ask God to remove & prevent any heresies/false doctrine from being believed by me, whether it ends up dismantling my entire belief system, or not. I recently read of something which Catholic priest believed in during the Middle Ages, called, ‘Vincible Ignorance’ - surprisingly, I also believe it to be true and in effect today. It’s very rampant. The temptation to believe something that the God & the Scriptures disprove is very strong today, and I believe most professing Christian give into ‘Vincible Ignorance’ out of love for their church, pastors, families, creeds, catechisms, belief systems, etc. For example, I figured out that there’s a strong possibly that America is NOT the leopard arising out of the ‘great sea’, in Daniel ch.7, because those beast come up out of that sea (Daniel 7:4), which the Mediterranean Sea, which is nowhere near America. And unfortunately, if this happens to be true, then all of the modern nations that we have presumptuously supposed those beast to be, are totally irrelevant to that prophecy. Neither Russia, nor America, nor Britain (though Britain is nearby), come out of the ‘great sea’ or Mediterranean Sea. But it’s better to accept what the Lord shows us, even if it tears down our beliefs, because the Lord can give us new Light by showing us correct doctrine. Anyways, yes. Ruckman is great and perhaps the best Bible teacher I’ve ever heard of. Not to mention, he’s really good at showing moderation in all things. Just because one person/group has something correct, that doesn’t mean every single thing they believe is correct, and vice versa

[@uswvme862]

@@Pezint see, That’s where I was kind of disgruntled/ reluctant to allow the Lord to persuade me otherwise, and thereby strip the Prophetical importance of the Scripture away from me, and leaving me nothing to cherish. I’m already aware of the beast representing those empires in their *Historical Application,* but I also thought that they would have a *Prophetical Application* to kingdoms that now exist today, such as America, Russia, Britain, Rome, (I’m also aware of the 10 kingdoms/toes Historical identities and their supposed Prophetical Identities), etc., but evidently they don’t have much *Prophetical Application* today. When the Lord pointed this out to me, it felt as if He was seizing a part of the Scripture’s relevance away from those of us who are alive today! For about 2-5 minutes, I was devastated to let their *Prophetical Application* go away by relinquishing them forever more, and (I believe) the devil almost convinced me to allow myself to be guilty of *’Vincible Ignorance’* - all for the sake of retaining/preserving the feeling of this portion of the Scriptures having relevance to those of us alive today, instead of it being old History; but thankfully, through God’s grace I overcame it, realizing that, by accepting the Truth of the matter, God would decide to grant me the truth of the Scriptures (because I didn’t reject the Light, and rejected Light results in Light being lost for gross Darkness) instead leaving me in the utter blindness of believing a lie. This happens at some point to every Bible Believer, but when they instead choose to remain in their own *‘Vincible Ignorance’,* God tends to leave them in blindness forever, left to their own devices of believing heaps of false doctrine.

[@uswvme862]

@@Pezint somehow, you literally misunderstand that entire comment. I don’t know what you believe, why you believe it, if you should believe it, if you should not believe it, or let alone, who you are. It’s nearly impossible to declare somebody else guilty of Vincible Ignorance without over analyzing them, which im not intetested in doing; so instead, i told you that *I* was tempted to become guilty of Vincible Ignorance, which is true - whether you are, or are not, makes no difference to me because im not accountable for you. You completely missed the entire intent behind my comment and let your feelings persuade you to run off the playground because of tiny (self inflicted) scrape on your knee, like a toddler. It’s time to stay inside until you learn how to communicate with the big kids, because displaying this level of inordinate affection & sickly sentimentality is absolutely despicable - especially for a man. I’m almost convinced this type of conduct in a grown man is a form of rebellion against nature. Wipe of your knee and stand up.

[@kenterry9396]

I followed Dr Ruckman fir yrs but finally left the Baptist church because of their teachings

[@JamesBrown-fd1nv]

And you think that was there problem? All that you said is that you left, doesn't mean anything.

[@sharondelaney9153]

Wasn’t that the point Dr. Ruckman was making. It it to get you leave the Baptist church?..

[@edwahjoshua1206]

Romans 4:25, Jesus was offered up for our offenses; but He was raised for our justification of life. Acts 28:28,

[@Art-tn6ts]

He would not debate EC Moore in person. He debates him on a tape! He hired EC to teach at PBI knowing what he believed. EC told him up front what he believed but Pete said don’t worry about it we are training Bible preachers not Baptist preachers. Pete was jealous of EC so he fired him.

[@margaretkrahn2506]

I do not trust Ruckman s teaching

[@averyschmuck9608]

E.C. Moore doesn't try to make the bible fit his denominational system. Ruckman can name call and try to belittle other men all he wants, real Bible believers know what the Gospel is.

[@edwahjoshua1206]

Romans 3:21-22 reveals that the Righteousness of God is the Doctrine reproof correction and instruction in God's righteousness not that of the law

[@samuelcastora8247]

Both men diminished the most important book in the Bible the gospel according to John. Any believer that does not believe the words of the Lord in John can convert a lost sinner does the same thing.

[@edwahjoshua1206]

Acts 7:38, Mt10:5-7, 15:24-25, Ro.15:8, Eph.2:12, Confirm; that God isn't speaking to Gentiles nor to the Body of Christ Church. in Mt. Mk. Lk. and Jn. Acts 26:16-18, 2 Cor.12:1, Ga.1:11-12 confirm the good news Paul preached was that of the Revelation of The Mystery of Jesus Christ. Paul didn't preached the gospel of the Kingdom as did Peter.James and John. Ro.16:25, Eph.3:3-4, Co.2:26-28

[@jackpata2324]

But not revealed until revealed to Paul by the Risen Jesus Christ.

[@thesondownstudio8429]

Let's see your debate with DR GENE KIM UC BERKELEY...HYPER

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

What exactly do you want to bring across, please? The audio/video shows Ruckman completely dishonoring E.C. Moore. Dr. Kim is a grad of Ruckman, what do you expect from him? Most Ruckmanites are parrots, just copying him.

[@bugsocsollie1694]

Dr. Kim preaches everything Ruckman preaches. Neither of them understand or acknowledge the mysteries revealed to Paul. Colossians 2:2. Neither of them help men to see the fellowship of the mystery that God wants all men to see. Ephesians 3:9. If God wants all men to see it, then I guess Satan wants no one to see it. Instead of seeing the mysteries revealed to Paul, they think they are spiritual Israel. Don't get me wrong. I love listening to Dr. Kim. I learn so much in a lot of areas. But he doesn't rightly divide. He trys to apply a lot of Israel's doctrine (which is according to their 70 weeks prophecy, and their promises), to the Body of Christ Church. Dr. Kim does preach Paul's Gospel of Grace, but he tells you it's the same Gospel that the 12 went out preaching. How could it be? They had no idea He would be dying, let alone be raising from the dead. No, their Gospel was that Israel's promised kingdom is finally at hand. Mark 1:15. That's the Gospel they were sent to preach in all the world before the end (2nd half of Israel's 70th week) comes. Matthew 24:14. The original 12 never preached their Gospel all over the world before they fell and diminished (Romans 11:11-12) and Paul was given a Dispensation of Grace for the Gentiles. Ephesians 3:1-2 But we see in Revelation 7 that Israel will preach their Gospel. They will rise and shine as a light unto the Gentiles during a time of darkness (Israel's 70th week, Tribulation, Jacob's trouble) . Isaiah 60:1-3. Which is exactly what we see happening in Revelation 7 with the 144,000 Jews and the Great multitude of believers through Israel preaching their Gospel. Good thing we don't need Israel today to come to Christ. They still don't even know who their Messiah is today.

[@thesondownstudio8429]

The Gospel Good news. Paul Saul Paul . Jesus.. Jesus Jesus..I'll take Jesus till the end with videos of Ruckman and Kim and Robert Breaker. I make my own videos .I choose..I'm not joining in the last second stupid debates on what anybody said. The fight is over The Blood Atonement .at this juncture that's the only information that is important .to the lost reader or video watcher kjv1611 and Eternal Life through The Blood Atonement. The rest y'all hash out intellectual.

[@bugsocsollie1694]

@@thesondownstudio8429 Yeah, not everyone is so concerned with growing in Truth, or in sound doctrine. So, carry on...

[@uswvme862]

@@bugsocsollie1694I’ve been thinking, recently, that dr. Gene Kim seems to place his own private interpretations onto the congregation during his studies. For example, the verse by verse Hebrews study has great levels of private interpretations, and anything else he simply mimics Ruckman on.

[@blairdebbiefedoruk8427]

Nesbitt Wake up. That was a very sad video I’m thankful for Peter teaching the KJV but he is way out to lunch. You will never here from me again Shame on you

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

Hi there, I do not know Nesbitt and, what is more, he or she is irrelevant what is concerning the content of this video. The audio/video is about Peter Ruckman, especially how he views and treats E.C. Moore. Do you like how he acts? Do you consider this as edifying and appropirate? Decide for yourself.

[@krashkwads4688]

@@DISPENSATIONALISTEN Nesbitt is a hack who likes to "watermark" original recordings and put them up on his KZbin channel

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

@@krashkwads4688 Thank you for clarifying, I never heard of Nesbitt before. Much more important, though, is the contents of the tape. Revealing in many regards.

[@krashkwads4688]

@@DISPENSATIONALISTEN I have Ruckman Reference Bible and many of his books and tapes, EC Moore approves things excellent.

[@DISPENSATIONALISTEN]

Thank you! Do you know of official book publications from EC Moore? I only found his ministry videos on the internet, but nothing written. Has his ministry "died out" with him? What is concerning Ruckman, I own his Reference Bible and many of his books in print and on kindle. And I have watched thousands of hours videos of him and of his students. I think I know his teachings.