The I-185 should be BANNED From 3.7 (War Thunder I-185 M-82)

[@WeBeStronk]

What are your opinions on the I-185? Is it overpowered for it's BR or is it perfectly fine? 🤔

[@janflorovic5880]

I-185 M-71 is the real undertiered one I flew it when it was 5.3BR and I’m shocked at the BR it’s now

[@janflorovic5880]

That Ki-96 triggered me cuz that heavy fighter actually out turns I-185 and BF-109F-4

[@MDzmitry]

I-185 in general is a fighter hanging on thanks to its vertical maneuverability, and M-82 has it crippled beyond 3500-3800m. M-71 on the other hand is more powerful and has no altitude issues, making it much more capable as a b-n-z fighter. When it comes to BRs I'd maybe leave M-82 where it is and place M-71 at 4.7, but not much higher since there are La-7 and Yak-3 (which also deserves 4.7 tbh) If I had to pick its closest opponent, I'd go with Fw 190 A-5 in terms of level speed. I-185 outclimbs the 190, but the latter has better maneuverability thanks to actually useful flaps. It is also much more responsive, especially at low-mid speeds making it more capable if you for some reason find yourself in a defensive position.

[@phenixgamer8335]

Honestly i think it is overpowered mostly becuase of the engine speed still love the content though❤

[@phenixgamer8335]

Also could you play the F6F-5N in American tech tree at 4.3 br pls❤🎉

[@RyanG-ij8xq]

I love when Soviet planes pull a high G 180 while I’m climbing past them and they close 1.5 kms in a whopping 5 seconds and shoot me down

[@Delusionaryvisionary_407]

In short, getting gaijined

[@MaticTheProto]

Yeah their flight models are so broken

[@rainwingmichael6691]

In the russian bias argument iv never seen pain from tanks but aircraft is where I feel it and how you describe it is how it is

[@Delusionaryvisionary_407]

@@rainwingmichael6691 Stalinium?

[@rainwingmichael6691]

@Delusionaryvisionary_407 I only have problems with fiction stalaniam on a few tanks not even a hand full

[@xxBlackyxx12590]

Sorry to say that, but the Firefly is from the Netherlands, Netherlands Rondell has a Orange dot in the Middle the one from Czechoslovakia don't have this Orange dot. 😅✌🏻

[@WeBeStronk]

Gotcha that makes a lot more sense!

[@zlounberg6958]

Also Czechoslovakia never operated any lol

[@summer8746]

C.205 would be nice, hardly see anyone play it at all. Nice video as always man, keep it up!

[@rendycoya]

i just played it man,THAT PLANE IS SO GOOD ,shame it doesnt pull at all

[@chris_bianchi13]

Some Veltro action WOULD be nice...

[@TheGermanSherman12]

2:27 bro became yoda

[@TheGermanSherman12]

16:36 he does it again

[@NielsdeWit-ll4op]

1:25 It's a Dutch plane and the RNAF logo is a circle with red, white and blue with a smaller orange circle in the middle.

[@OlShatterhand]

Medium bombers? Yes, please! :)

[@SamuelGeist]

Seconded! Would love to see some medium bomber gameplay.

[@bozo6049]

I remember a time when the stat card said this thing had a 30m/s climb rate

[@theporschetiger]

Yak-1B is also a monster at 3.0, i love that thing and I don't even care for Russian air that much

[@TimoneCorps]

I was playing Ground RB and I got out my French Narval plane (no bombs), only to suddenly get tailed by an I-185. I had more energy, and so I zoom climbed and then tried to run away, and no joke, the I-185 followed me the whole time, and was gaining on me. The match ended before he caught up completely but within that whole chase sequence, I had a better position and energy. Didn’t matter. If it can overpower (it would have, given another minute or so) a 5.7 plane, then it should be higher.

[@rendycoya]

the narval is literally 4.0 material and the I185 excels at low altitude

[@elijahmontgomery4146]

Narval is trash

[@TimoneCorps]

Well, I don't know how to answer to that. I've killed multiple jet fighters with it, and I can easily fight planes at the same BR. I guess it is the 6 20mms. Also, I was at a pretty high altitude. Nonetheless, I see your points.

[@solreaver83]

Been a long time since I've flown these but I was always told not to go high, medium alt is best and fight vertically not horizontally. These can loop all day, they just don't lose energy.

[@kspectre21]

Gotta love the triple nose mounted 20mm's, such a good armament at this BR. I'm definitely down to see some B26 gameplay, quite a cool looking plane. Only reason I wouldn't want to see some B25 is because I used to play it so damn much lol, if you do the PBJ with the 75mm that'd also be quite interesting.

[@WeBeStronk]

I've started filming an A-20G video this evening which should be out Friday

[@kspectre21]

@@WeBeStronk sounds good and I'm looking forward to it :)

[@Sharp_Stone]

It was a Dutch Firefly ...G E K O L O N I S E E R D

[@squirlychipmunk]

(Sir David Attenborough voice) When the environment becomes sufficiently target rich, the Webe emits noises akin to Yoda from Star Wars 16:35. Absolutely fascinating. P.S. Please do indulge us with Medium (or any!) bomber gameplay! P.P.S. that dogfight on Ladoga was incredibly cinematic, definitely one of my favorite matches!

[@roadkill6737]

Wonder what belts you are using. You seem to be getting an awful lot of hits when three Shvaks should be shredding things to pieces. I generally use the tracer belt. Just pure explosive fragmentation. I absolutely one tap with the yak 3p which has three Shvaks as well. Anyway great and fun video. I’ve been playing a lot of yaks and they are all just monstrous. Might give the I 185 a whirl too. I would suggest for you to try the yak 3p with tracer belts as well. A superior airframe to this with three Schvaks at a fun BR is just a guaranteed good time.

[@WeBeStronk]

It was universal I think! Some Yaks are on the list but Russian planes feel a little too easy mode so don't play them too often

[@rendycoya]

@@WeBeStronk use traces on shVAKs theyre incredible now

[@roadkill6737]

@@WeBeStronk oh dude, try the tracer belt. It’s by far the best belt. It will change your life. I have more than a 1000 kills with all the various yaks. Trust me. For the Shvaks, tracer belt is the best after the recent Schvak buffs. If you thought this plane was OP before it would be godly after using tracer belts.

[@SpaceloverIce]

Do you remember that you went headon with a player called DazedRelic6497 cuz that was me!

[@Silly_m22]

Really wow btw may I ask what's your highest br? Because I have 2.7 russia air 4.0 russia ground 4.0 America air 4.0 America ground 2.7 germany air 5.7 germany ground

[@SpaceloverIce]

@@Silly_m22 I dont grind ground but my highest plane in the russian tech tree is the la 7 (I recommend the la 5)

[@Silly_m22]

@@SpaceloverIce ok I currently have all all the i-15's, i-16, mig-3 and the yak-1 the one thing that I hate about air battles is the lag i have like my game freezes ever 20-30 seconds im saving up for a new pc

[@SpaceloverIce]

@@Silly_m22 you can use the i 15s cuz they are very good

[@speky5777]

@@Silly_m22currently everyone is having similar problems with lag spikes, we think all the server hamsters have colds or smth, but it hound get better over time if gaijin fixes it, meanwhile, if you don’t have ddr4 or 16-(preferably 32) gb of ram that should be ur first upgrade :)

[@chemicalbean]

Next time use the 45 mm cannon on the Yak-9K, get some nice long shots while bomber hunting or some crazy snap-shots while dog-fighting!

[@IEappy]

Love the yak-9k feels great to 1 tap, and because it's a fighter it's easy to aim

[@jettblack9696]

I am still waiting for you to play the American f-8e

[@WeBeStronk]

It's on the list :)

[@petersmythe6462]

I mean I consider it a threat at 3.7 but it's one my Ki-44-II Hei will outclimb and out-turn. It is faster, but only by 9 km/h (and only 1 km/h stock). It does have a better armament. 3 Shvaks beats 4 .50 cals, no question there. IDK this doesn't feel like the worst thing to go up against.

[@MiniCaseoh1849]

I don't know if you ever played the VL Pyörremyrsky but it has a better climb rate of the P-47M and a 18 second turn time if I remember, and is at a br of 4.3 (The climb rate is 3642 ft/min

[@ShazotoTouge]

If you think this I-185 is good, try the other one at 4.3. The thing outclimbs basically everything that isn't an XP-50. My favorite soviet plane to fly out.

[@svidentkyrponos7530]

Dude, any tips for it please? I struggle a lot with my I-185 mostly because I can't shake off anything once it gets on my 6 Thx a lot

[@_Moth_.]

​@@svidentkyrponos7530honestly there's not much you can do about that as it doesn't turn particularly hard. Your best bet is climb at the beginning and BnZ with your 20mms and use your engine to climb after each pass. It's decently fast in a dive so if you can, get back to your team while defensively flying

[@elijahmontgomery4146]

The Wyvern probably does need to go up in br, but it needs a better and more realistic flight model. It’s in a weird place because it pisses away all its speed when it turns, which is not true to real life, and because it’s flight model isn’t what it should be it’s in a br it shouldn’t be at. And no, its energy retention in real life isn’t amazing, but it’s unrealistically bad in game.

[@GunnerInBlue]

Can you do a video on the British and French hunter mark six. They are the same aircraft but one is 9.0 and one is 9.7. The British is the higher tier one.

[@rendycoya]

i think it gets flares

[@GunnerInBlue]

@@rendycoya no the only difference is the French one gets two AIM-9Bs and the British one gets 4 SRAAMs other than that they seem the same

[@GunnerInBlue]

This whole thing don’t make sense. The German Hunter, which is the exact same thing as the British 9.7 hunter except it has counter measures and better rockets. Then the British 9.7 has better rockets than the premium British hunter. Then you have the French hunter which has AIM-9B but is the exact same as the British 9.7 Hunter. And then you have the poor 9.0 Hunter

[@Urssaff]

Don't forget the swedish one which is kinda the dutch one but worst engine

[@christopherchartier3017]

It’s honestly just a Russian Fw-199 that can’t dive as well with different guns. If you want to play Russian high alt, fly the Yak-3 VK107 or the I-225. They’re really the only Russian props that perform pretty well at high alt, but even then they’re not the best

[@malkadewage7042]

You are the best Warthunder KZbinr

[@benpurcell4935]

The P-47 is surprisingly resilient when it comes to taking hits.

[@bmohr9826]

This plane requires you to keep your speed up or force your opposition to overshoot. It bleeds energy rather quickly in turns but has a decent stall speed and great canons to punish your opponent

[@lucasmoreno2154]

PLEEEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLAY THE KI-44 II !!! It's also a low tier menace. It is basically a J2M2 at 3.7, with a climb rate only below the XP-50 iirc, and it has very decent turn rates so it can dogfight many fighters too.

[@_Moth_.]

Ki44 2 is bae

[@Aviation101-i1k]

Your so funny and great to watch❤

[@WeBeStronk]

Thank you!

[@Valhalla.Studio]

Plenty of good planes out there, just depends how you fly them and who is flying them. This particular I-185 is fine where it is, it would make no sense to bump it up in BR.

[@AnthonyVargis]

No they don't turn well, The I185 is not OP and i consider them a easy kill even in a 2.7 corsair the only thing that makes me nervous are its guns and if someone try's to head on me, but I avoid Head on attacks unless i am outnumbered then you have to do what ya need to do. Now if you want to fly a OP plane get the XP55 its a fricken monster with 2x50cals in nose and 2x an2 20mm cannon with 200 rounds of ammo for every gun and they are also in the nose. There is no prop plane that retains energy like a XP55 and it is the only prop that can continuously can black out my max aced pilot, Also i think it is the fastest prop in a dive breaking 565 MPH in a dive and it will pull 14Gs in some rare cases "usually sits at about 12g's" but it does lack some strait line speed. I fly it very aggressively and love when my squad mates bring me into 5.7- 6.7 games and it still slays but i am 53 and I have been flying planes on PC pentium 60 since air warrior in the mid 90s and trained for Warbirds with my pentium2 300 with twin vodoo2 8mb GPUs in SLI at 1600x1200 on the old 21 and 22" tube monitors in like the late 90s "cannot remember exactly" Now in ground battles since i do both but prefer Flying since it is easier for me to see enemy dots in the air then tanks on the ground use default ammo and you can easily strafe out tanks since the guns are in the center of the nose and you can aim them very accurately and it pulls out of vertical dives so easily i have no problem putting round trough Panther roof hatches and killing them in a single pass, same with t-34s now the only very common tanks that are difficult to strafe are the KV1s but can easily stop one from advancing from tracking them. Lighter tanks like panzer f2s and the like for example are easy kills. you get tons of trigger time but ground RB is not good for Padding you stats since AAA is deadly and some especially people with asian writing in their names are very suspect but luckily the cheaters i don't think get much of a advantage in Air RB and avoiding guns is pretty easy. If i would have only used it in Air RB my KD would have to be at least 10-1 and i fly it very aggressively and will sacrifice myself to kill a air field hugger. Just to give you a idea of how good it turns yak 3's no problem its close but with its energy retention and combat flaps that work great but i only use them and take off and landing flaps in dire situations since energy retention is more important to me then a little more turning ability but i do use them often. BTW nice video I like your enthusiasm. Cheers Ohh i forgot to add its very hard to get guns on target with a quick rolling enemy plane at high speeds since the XP55s roll rate suffers and its rudders are just too weak to yaw your guns on target at high speeds, but with its energy retention just make another pass you will usually still be faster even if you have to loop over to make another pass also if you dive from 10k feet you can usually zoom climb "not vertically but a steep angle back up to 10k again but you will be down to under 100mph but you can resurvey the situation and decide who is the next target.

[@LilyHavener-mz8fc]

Id love to see some bomber action. You should try to do a reserve to top tier live stream video

[@SlyBabyThreeSMP]

Oh yeah, i'd really like that and i hope its better than Kila West"s reserve to top tier life streaming. With WEBE's humour and his positive vibes, it would definitely gain lots of new viewers and lots of subscribers. Time to show the world what you've got, WEBE!

[@robertcapa6668]

Do the wings come off this as well?

[@jackschoonover6418]

less than one min ago is crazy, i haven't played this br in air rb in ages, so i think i should and see how the aircraft does

[@WeBeStronk]

It's great fun!

[@paladinfx3083]

Been playing this plane today for the first time, it's an absolute blast; love those cannons! :)

[@Lostman4321]

Sure would love to play more with planes but for whatever reason Gaijin refuses to fix the issue of the random crashes for me. Shame that it only happens with aircraft, happens when I die or open the map so it's basically unplayable for planes.

[@npc_citizen9276]

Get better internet.

[@daelendixon]

you should play the sk60b getting reversals in the plane will satisfy you

[@shinlucario]

since its such a low BR, many players are still new to the game, in the end, its basically a skill issue for those who complain about the plane being OP

[@rendycoya]

i think its more like people compare it to the 190 which is overtiered

[@MrMrSpok]

Absolutely amazing dogfight in game 4, like a hollywood movie.

[@arcanos9706]

I-185 M-82 is a monster in GRB. I can’t count how many times i’ve died to it in a tank

[@Anima_2_2302]

i think the biggest UFO is the red yak 3 p, i hate this thing with my entire being

[@AceXail]

Everybody is like “Whos italy and france?” But nobodys ever like “Hows italy and france?” 😔😔

[@sfyzie_ice]

Can you Try the la 7b20 for next vid?

[@corebeats3749]

Can you do the I-301? It’s amazing

[@h.khoinguyen6339]

I'll like a B-25J video

[@ju5tlucas]

Cancer plane against my 190 A4 haha, good vid man C:

[@WeBeStronk]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ju5tlucas]

@@WeBeStronk What soundmod do you use?

[@rhy-studio1368]

Hey man, try using the j2m3. Its a japanese beast

[@dphalanx7465]

Fly the I-185, *M-71 version.* Better engine; that's where the action is! The M-82 model is really just a different La-5F/FN; nothing special (except for the guns).

[@petersmythe6462]

"Wyvern should be 4.7" Maybe even 5.3 lol

[@janflorovic5880]

P-51D-10 premium has BR of P-51D-5 but flight performance of P-51K & P-51D-30

[@KrautMagic45]

Are you sure about that?

[@janflorovic5880]

@@KrautMagic45 yes

[@WeBeStronk]

Have done a video on that on the channel already :)

[@janflorovic5880]

@@WeBeStronk P-51D-20 has 67Hg engine setting P-51D-10 has 72Hg engine setting 1820 horsepower at the same BR as D-5 / D-20 which have only around 1650 horsepower

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

Tbh I’ve been more of a yak fan than the I-185, the M-82 version is a good interceptor but the M-71 version is straight ass. Like a more powerful MiG-3

[@FinnishPotatoWT]

That is my favourite plane in WT

[@maineiacman]

They just added it to Enlisted. Its got good firepower but its inferior to the German planes in all aspects.

[@papadad1116]

All planes have a good balance between engine power, maneuverability, survivability, and firepower. Well, all non-Soviet planes anyway.

[@KrautMagic45]

I do awful in the i-185 for some reason, I do much better in a 190

[@WeBeStronk]

It's meh stock, fully upgraded though it's a weapon

[@Cryton12345]

I love it when people complain about good guns/ planes just like complaining about zoom booming

[@aquafire_yt6247]

That’s why it’s my most played plane 400 matches 😅

[@_Moth_.]

I like it a lot. It climbs well, turns well enough, is pretty fast and has very good guns for the br. It's like a ki44 with 20mms

[@aquafire_yt6247]

@@_Moth_. yeah slapped a talisman on and grinded almost every plane from rank III-V with it. It’s also pretty decent as cas/anti cas 😅

[@ThomasMuller-tz9eo]

Its my fav plane. 3 20mm is insane

[@MechaPuppy]

the stock one is bad the spaded one is insane

[@dfwrailvideos]

Literally watching this after I got killed by one.

[@maxpopkov1432]

Skill issue 😄

[@dfwrailvideos]

@@maxpopkov1432 real

[@RidingJay]

Day 1 : can you play the Ki-200, a Japanese 8.7 plane

[@jacobmunn82]

Webe i need you to play the american Spitfire LFMk IX

[@rendycoya]

think he already did,not sure tho

[@phenixgamer8335]

WeBe can you play the F6F-5N in american tech tree at br 4.3 pls❤🎉

[@janflorovic5880]

Most undertiered dirty planes • F4U-1A • Ki-44-I • Ki-44-II • Ki-100-I • Ki-100-II • Ki-43-III Ko • MC.205 Series 1 • BF-109F-1 • I-185 M-71 • Yak-9M • Yak-9U • P-51D-10 • MB.157

[@timothypricesr5953]

Quit drinking half your list is overtied

[@janflorovic5880]

@@timothypricesr5953 lmao what’s overtiered

[@timothypricesr5953]

@@janflorovic5880 most of those Japanese planes….tiering them based on bad players is not right

[@rendycoya]

@@timothypricesr5953 thats your skill issue,every single one of those besides the KI 43 is genuenly good and competetive

[@_Moth_.]

​@@rendycoyayou're joking right? The Ki43 has 2 20mms and can turn on a penny. As long as your guy doesn't pass out from the G you'll get on the 6 of every plane you fly against if you play your cards right. Its bad against BnZ but what low tier jap plane isn't

[@Leaderaty]

Im in the video xd in ki 49 its not my Best game because i see by your gameplay i've 3 enemies behind and at this moment i ve been hit by a fucking 12.7mm and this hit make me in fine instant and other battles in ki 49 i ve a ace or 3-4 kills its not my luck for this battle

[@KauppaKomissaari]

La7fn in stupid too btw also the wyvern shold be 5.3 its about as fast as the p51h p51c at 3.7 is even more criminal tbh

[@zen-spoon608]

La-5FN* Also I feel like the Wyvern should maybe be nerfed a little bit, but 5.3 is a bit much since its *only* advantage is its speed. Shit at high altitude, shit turnrate, shit mer, average acceleration, list of averageness goes on until you get to top speed at sea level.

[@KauppaKomissaari]

@@zen-spoon608 it doesnt matter it has 100kph on every other plane

[@zen-spoon608]

@@KauppaKomissaari Well no actually, in even a shallow dive many aircraft can keep up and like i said, all of the downsides to the Wyvern make it shit in air tb. I can definitely see it at 5.3 in ground rb tho

[@KauppaKomissaari]

@@zen-spoon608 in a dive yes but idk if you know this that needs altitude the wyvern doesnt and if you with that logic the yak3u should be 5.0

[@zen-spoon608]

@@KauppaKomissaari Wyvern is easily picked off by climbing fighters because they're normally doing CAS or basebombing, which requires them to either bleed speed as they gun down ground targets, or dump their speed into a turn in order to rtb after a base run. Both options lead to them dying very easily to most American fighters, Do335s, etc, who normally have picked up some altitude by the time the Wyvern is doing its thing. If they try and use it as a fighter, theyre boned because they don't have the necessary performance other than top speed, which means they can choose engagements but they certainly cant dictate them.

[@Schnitzelberger981]

I hate this thing it´s so hard to fight against it

[@WeBeStronk]

Embrace the bias

[@kevinwhite-ku2pm]

There are 3 certainties, life, death, and war thunder russian bias.

[@lucas-n7v1d]

ive never died to this plane and have always killed it

[@rainwingmichael6691]

In the war thunder russian bias argument my opinion i don't feel much pain from tanks from russia. So russian bias isnt in ground much But. I feel it in the sky. Many occasions iv felt the enemy was capable of doing stuff that was insane and just stupid from russian planes. Basically russian planes pull gs and fly too good. Iv even flown russian fighters like the yaks and it was too simple Just turn amd shoot amd you can obtain 1 or 2 kill matches without any skill. Compare that to the struggle with my american props its why i believe in bias. Russian planes need no skill to do ok. But planes from other nations need more required skill to do ok

[@Gregg_y]

me 410 sometime maybe?

[@klauss.2696]

cannot fly this plane bro how are people flying this brick

[@WeBeStronk]

Better with the upgrades!

[@s.a.f.r.a6403]

Your first match is why alot of planes are at a low BR because the majority of players are bad while the minority are great pilots exploiting this to their liking

[@WeBeStronk]

It was my first ever match with the plane though in fairness, got to learn it

[@s.a.f.r.a6403]

@@WeBeStronk it seems to suffer from only one thing, a non existent elevator which seems to be a common trend with russian aircraft it also becomes more prominent when you start Glocking them

[@MattyRouter]

My favourite plane❤

[@khalilveronessi4819]

the low tier menace is the Yak KABB 2, play it and you will know

[@Bryson-n1e]

Do t2 Japan

[@WeBeStronk]

Tier 2 or literally the T2?

[@Tenktosięzesrał]

woh thanda

[@chopracer]

russian tech tree gets all the bs

[@agrocreepers]

No

[@worldofreplays9035]

only 13 comments? jesus im early

[@MattyRouter]

It's a boom N zoomer don't turnfight!

[@commanderkris93]

How the hell you are having fun in that game. Did you even play top tier?

[@WeBeStronk]

I'm at the stage where I've kinda completed War Thunder, I don't feel a need to slave my life away at top tier! I play for fun

[@piedpiper4450]

4th??

[@WeBeStronk]

Seems so!

[@alexrobertson1472]

wow a hilariously OP russian vehicle in war thunder? never heard of that before.

[@underworldgameshd69]

I know right

[@mochabear88]

g

[@missing_5_7_89]

the devs of war thunder licked ass of soviet vehicles tanks and aircraft a little too much