The IBM PS/1 VGA monitor is built like a tank! (and still useful)

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Adrian's Digital Basement

Adrian's Digital Basement

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@Fifury161
@Fifury161 3 жыл бұрын
19:47 - they are called "trimmer pot adjustment tool", or "trimming tool". Plastic ones are fine for occasional use, I still have my ceramic set. Ignoring the shock risk with a metal screwdriver (you need to do these calibrations live!) trying to adjust inductor cores will result in a distorted trim as the metal will increase the field strength of the inductor. Ceramic has a better "bite" on most inductor cores, the cheaper plastic ones tend to deform over time. Some manufacturers (Bourns, Vishay) add a minute metal bar in the tip - though these are intended to adjust pots (potentiometers)
@misterkite
@misterkite 3 жыл бұрын
the digikey category is actually "tuning tools".. but I'd call any nylon pokey tool a "spudger".
@barrykline2741
@barrykline2741 3 жыл бұрын
My father had a TV shop... in his day, they were called 'diddle sticks'
@Alexis_du_60
@Alexis_du_60 3 жыл бұрын
I've seen these also called "Tweekers" or "fiddlers"
@Darxide23
@Darxide23 3 жыл бұрын
More than just interference from using a metal screwdriver, you could also destroy the trimmer itself with a metal tool.
@hjalfi
@hjalfi 3 жыл бұрын
I've always like the EGA/VGA palette --- so much richer-looking than the muddy C64 colours or the garish full-saturation palette of the BBC Micro. The CGA palette, however, looks like someone threw up in a paint factory.
@fattomandeibu
@fattomandeibu Жыл бұрын
Man, what you were saying about people using CRTs for a long time, I think I may have been one of the last to switch to flat screen. I used a CRT monitor until about 2010 and my CRT TV(32" widescreen beast, must've weighed at least 15 stone and was a two man job if you wanted to move it more than a couple of feet) until about 2019. Only reason I replaced them was due to becoming unusable. The monitor which was a Packard Bell from a Windows 98 machine someone had junked and ended up with a weird deformed screen where the scanlines in the middle were taller than the top and bottom, and the TV was a Sony that just got really blurry with age. The latter still worked when I took it to recycling, but the blurring was just so bad that it rendered text unreadable at anything higher than 384x288, the PAL equivalent to 320x240.
@andrewgwilliam4831
@andrewgwilliam4831 3 жыл бұрын
The bit that sticks out at the back is to protect the leads.
@ches74
@ches74 3 жыл бұрын
I know them as trimmer tools but if you're looking on Digikey they're listed as tuning tools. You'll find them in Product Index > Tools > Excavators, Hooks, Picks, Probes, Tuning Tools
@GarthBeagle
@GarthBeagle 3 жыл бұрын
4:40 "... like maybe it's in heat or something" hahaa probably not what I'd first have thought of
@sadmac356
@sadmac356 3 жыл бұрын
I had to rewind the video to make sure I heard that correctly!
@ChrisDreher
@ChrisDreher 3 жыл бұрын
Now we know how monitors are made!
@sadmac356
@sadmac356 3 жыл бұрын
@@ChrisDreher I never wondered where monitors come from. Now I know, I guess.
@kaitlyn__L
@kaitlyn__L 3 жыл бұрын
Guess Adrian grew up around dogs!
@Skull_Gun
@Skull_Gun 3 жыл бұрын
That monitor invented twerking
@BurleyBoar
@BurleyBoar 3 жыл бұрын
I'm really enjoying the extra voice overs and text information overlays. I figure it's more work for you to do, but be assured the quality and watchablity went up... which is hard to believe considering how watchable and entertaining your videos already are!
@NavJack27gaming
@NavJack27gaming 3 жыл бұрын
at like 12min in i like what you did with the semi rapid camera cuts with seamless VO work. nice.
@thomaspatton1991
@thomaspatton1991 3 жыл бұрын
Dude I just found your channel a few days ago and sweet jesus I've been looking for this content for years. Fantastic stuff man.
@MrBillmcminn
@MrBillmcminn 3 жыл бұрын
Watch an IBM PS/1 that monitor belongs to show up on a mid week mail bag video! I remember those PS/1 systems with those monitors used as point of sale systems in stores
@ultrametric9317
@ultrametric9317 3 жыл бұрын
IBM monitors often have screen glass that is ground matte to inhibit glare and reflections. If you look carefully you will see that it is very sharp, and particularly will have superior convergence and color accuracy corner to corner.
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 3 жыл бұрын
I had a factory sealed unit that my parents threw out when I moved out! Still have my PS1 video conferencing model though! I really need to clear the attic out and make a few videos!
@techgeeknzl
@techgeeknzl 3 жыл бұрын
Factory new? Oh, no! 😱😥
@tj71520
@tj71520 3 жыл бұрын
I Feel you. My patents threw out a bunch of rare vintage computers that were mine. They did it when I was away at a camp in the early 90s. It was a Commodore pc10, Commodore pc20, two Very old and rare Danish comet computers Running cp/m, an amiga harddrive, a Commodore Pet computer, a Commodore Pet dual disk drive, a sinclair spectrum zx81, an ibm ps/2 computer, an old ibm ps/2 style high tower server and a lambda computer. I was crushed... STILL is actually
@TheErador
@TheErador 3 жыл бұрын
Remind me to never do this to my children.... Also...who doesn't ask?
@chetpomeroy1399
@chetpomeroy1399 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheErador People with Cluster-B personality traits tend to behave that way. They have no problem violating the personal boundaries of others.
@n.h.s.a.d.m.
@n.h.s.a.d.m. 3 жыл бұрын
@@tj71520 Oh my god, this sounds like some horrible tale of betrayl!
@talideon
@talideon 3 жыл бұрын
I remember those monitors from school. They _used to_ be very sharp.
@garryadamson8507
@garryadamson8507 3 жыл бұрын
My first PC was a PS/1 (286) with the same style of monitor but the mono version. Nice to see some of them still around.
@joegee2815
@joegee2815 3 жыл бұрын
"Alignment Trimmer Tool" seemed to work on ebay for the non-inductive/capacitive sticks.
@temporarilyoffline
@temporarilyoffline 3 жыл бұрын
I had a tiny (like 9") VGA monochrome monitor and loved it for text based apps and older DOS games
@3vi1J
@3vi1J 3 жыл бұрын
I get anxious any time I see one of my favorite KZbinrs working on monitors. But then, I just tell myself "He couldn't have uploaded it if he electrocuted himself."
@ctwilli0950
@ctwilli0950 3 жыл бұрын
True that
@haraldhimmel5687
@haraldhimmel5687 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah.. 27k volt. Yikes.
@enginerd80
@enginerd80 3 жыл бұрын
We had that computer back in the day (10 MHz 286, 1 MB RAM, 30 MB HDD, color monitor, proprietary soundcard, IBM DOS 4.00, MS Works 2.0). And the monitor did work as a standard VGA monitor, as was found when we used it with another computer in the later years (I just started watching the video, so don't know if the same is found). Oh, and the monitor was said to be 12" in all the materials.
@Dukefazon
@Dukefazon 3 жыл бұрын
At least 3 CRT monitors died during my PC gaming for some reason. 2 of them were really old and bad already. I didn't have luck with CRT monitors for some reason, maybe the power wasn't stable in the house or something. They went to the trash but with the knowledge I have today I might be able to fix them if I still had them.
@dans8287
@dans8287 3 жыл бұрын
I almost spit out my drink when you said the monitor looked like it was in heat with the kickstand up. too funny! You are so right about not using a metal tool to adjust the ferrite slugs when the monitor is on. In case someone reading this decides to do it anyway because they don't have a plastic one on hand. It will ALWAYS crack the slug if you do! Ask me how I know this? Once the slug is cracked it cannot be adjusted and good luck getting it out to fix or replace it.
@ERROR0x7CF
@ERROR0x7CF 3 жыл бұрын
The white with no signal is perfectly normal (At least for the PS/1 model 2011 monitors), my monochrome one does that too. The color monitor's picture looks pretty similar to the monochrome one, though the mono is probably sharper. All my pots are scratchy on the front, which makes adjusting the brightness and contrast more difficult, but that aside even the mono one is nice.
@jaykay18
@jaykay18 3 жыл бұрын
Great job as always. Personally, I would have left the PS/1 connector and cable on there, maybe taping up the end of it until a PS/1 comes into your possession. I thought it would have been interesting to have left the fan running in the monitor regardless, but if it's truly that noisy, then it's fine without it. What I am rather surprised about is that you didn't rig a 1/8" cable up to it to use the built-in speaker, that would make full use of that monitor, giving it an additional feature over the fact that it was 11 or 12 inches.
@purrator
@purrator 3 жыл бұрын
I loved that screen even used it way after I stopped using the PS/1
@RetroHoo
@RetroHoo 3 жыл бұрын
My first VGA monitor ❤️ bought at a box sale back in the day for my home build frankenstein 286. I was 15 and bought it part by part when I had a little money saved up. This monitor replaced my green screen MDA monitor and was one of my biggest investments in the project.
@AOClaus
@AOClaus Жыл бұрын
I know I watched you work on one of these monitors before. I found one in someone's driveway they were throwing away! Said it "blew a capacitor." It's been sitting in for at least a day in the biggest rain we've had on a year. I hope it really is built like a tank, because I want to see it working.
@downpoly
@downpoly 3 жыл бұрын
I pulled one of these out of Computer Reset, so cool you keep doing videos on the monitors I’ve found! Keep up the awesome work!
@Renville80
@Renville80 3 жыл бұрын
What I would have done while the back was off would be to take a bit off a manila folder and tacked that over the opening left by omitting that cable, if for no other reason than to keep bugs etc. from crawling into the monitor.
@bcostin
@bcostin 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have an IBM 4707, a tiny monochrome VGA monitor apparently designed for point-of-sale terminals. I mostly used it with my home file server where I could tuck it on a nearby shelf out of the way. Very handy back before compact LCDs.
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah one of those would be super cool -- I remember those little screens. I was thinking of a super cool project I could do with a 9" VGA CRT
@tubeDude48
@tubeDude48 3 жыл бұрын
At 7:20, I'd leave the fan in to cool the power supply! At 20:20, they are available on Amazon.
@VAX1970
@VAX1970 3 жыл бұрын
Seems stupid, clean it then leave it unplugged, why cut the wires and remove it? odd..
@2610Someone
@2610Someone 3 жыл бұрын
Love the CRT videos, keep them coming!
@ROBINHOOD2098
@ROBINHOOD2098 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have a set of them they come with a sleeve to slip over them to allow a easier reach with out touching a live circuit
@J0eBl0e
@J0eBl0e 3 жыл бұрын
My 2nd computer, that I built in 1987 from parts bought from the back of computer rags, was a 386sx-16, 40mb MFM Seagate hard drive re-encoded to RLL, and a no-name 12" VGA monitor. I couldn't believe how good it looked. (1st computer was a Leading Edge Model D!)
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 3 жыл бұрын
25:22 - you'll find non-conductive things can become conductive with high enough potential energy! There's at least 14kV under that anode cap!
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 3 жыл бұрын
20:25 - it's also best practice to do these adjustments standing up with one hand in your pocket and have the screen pointed at a mirror. Standing up so if you do get a zap you can be knocked clear (make sure you have clearance to fall back to) One hand in your pocket so there is less risk of the shock passing over your heart Mirror - to make adjustments easier! Also don't have a live set resting on an anti static mat and it's best not to wear metal jewellery or an anti static wrist strap. Even a small 12" CRT can have around 14kV on the anode cap!
@TedSeeber
@TedSeeber 3 жыл бұрын
There were some PS-1 models that had a primitive touch screen on that 15 pin connector. At Casino Software Corporation of America, based in Salem, we used to have a few of those. PITA- they had to be recalibrated on every reboot.
@s.s.85
@s.s.85 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, isn't that an Acer Aspire One laptop? Damn that's as nostalgic as the old monitor, I slept through way too many lectures behind this little device's screen in my university days!
@SimonQuigley
@SimonQuigley 3 жыл бұрын
Haha, I still have and occasionally use 3 of them :-)
@Sloxx701
@Sloxx701 3 жыл бұрын
A good alignment tool set I use is the Aven 13016 ESD safe set. It's on Digikey for $15 and I've had it for years.
@luisluiscunha
@luisluiscunha Жыл бұрын
Hello: I have one, together with my 2011 from 1991. The reason I never thought of pairing it with my Celeron 300A, from 1998 was because of the noise the fan produced (I think it was the fan in the power supply, on the monitor).
@JackBealeGuitar
@JackBealeGuitar 3 жыл бұрын
This was my first pc. A 386 ps/1 with a Disney sound source. I really regret getting rid of it. At the time I didn't appreciate it and was envious of my friends playing doom on their 486s with soundblasters
@Petertronic
@Petertronic 3 жыл бұрын
I'm in the UK and in every workshop I worked in, those alignment tools were always called 'tweakers'. Probably not the name they are sold under though!
@davefarquhar8230
@davefarquhar8230 3 жыл бұрын
The original PS/1s had an expansion chassis that sat between the computer and the monitor, and if you bought that, the upward angle on the monitor might be awkward. The kickstand let you adjust the angle to a more natural vertical.
@Fifury161
@Fifury161 3 жыл бұрын
21:00 - the lack of control on size was to keep the image as square as possible, those older CRTs had very pronounced curves especially when compared to a Flatron! It is possible to over scan, however I would imagine you would loose straight lines as you reach the limits of the screen...
@raggededge82
@raggededge82 3 жыл бұрын
I had a PS/1 386 with this exact monitor and I agree, it works great. I really wish I still had it.
@sharebrained
@sharebrained 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Adrian! I bought various insulated and non-conductive/non-magnetic screwdrivers a while back at McMaster-Carr. The insulated ones are better when you're just worried about not getting shocked. The non-conductive/non-magnetic ones are good for adjusting sensitive analog circuits that are affected by the presence of a metal adjustment driver. (Edit to note none of these are a hex driver like the one you mentioned. Still, maybe useful to others.) Here are the McMaster-Carr part numbers and descriptions: 5879A24 Ceramic Adjustment Screwdriver 0.102" Slotted 5879A23 Ceramic Adjustment Screwdriver 0.071" Slotted 52985A72 Precise-Control Screwdriver Electrical-Insulating, 0.079" Size, Slotted Style 52985A73 Precise-Control Screwdriver Electrical-Insulating, 0.098" Size, Slotted Style 52985A74 Precise-Control Screwdriver Electrical-Insulating, 0.118" Size, Slotted Style
@thr3ddy
@thr3ddy 2 жыл бұрын
I own the exact same monitor and have the 10Mhz 286 PS/1 as well. It's a fun little computer that I use for distraction-free writing. I wanted to adjust the scan on this monitor since the usable surface on mine is very small, but it seems a bit too dangerous for me. Especially considering that if I screw up my monitor, I can't use my PC anymore. Thanks for the useful vid!
@mikedrz
@mikedrz 3 жыл бұрын
I have this same monitor in a spare room. The computer was thrown out years ago. I'm not into retro gaming, but it is just a same to get rid of it. I've had it since my child hood.
@frankowalker4662
@frankowalker4662 3 жыл бұрын
The thing with 80's-90's games and computers is, they were designed for CRT's. So they look better on CRT's. Great Video. BTW, I like the look of the monitor, it's quirky.
@Epictronics1
@Epictronics1 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree. Small VGA CRT's are great for dos gaming. Just like you said, the pixels are very small and make the image look great in low res. Love my IBM 8513!
@nagisaayanami
@nagisaayanami 3 жыл бұрын
The red tool is called an alignment tool, usually used for tuning radios.
@principals16842
@principals16842 3 жыл бұрын
One of these days I'm going to have to find an IBM 6091 23" monitor and send it in. The 6091's were good monitors, if a bit heavy, with the 23" model weighing in at 122 pounds (55 kilos)! Quite the opposite of a nice little 12" VGA monitor.
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah I recall back in the 90s I wanted a big monitor as I was using a 13" VGA CRT -- now I want the go back to small monitors. Funny how it works!
@argvminusone
@argvminusone 11 ай бұрын
I remember having a 20" CRT TV as a kid. It was heavy, but it wasn't 122 pounds. 🤯
@principals16842
@principals16842 11 ай бұрын
@@argvminusone I'd have to find the specs to be sure, but I think its max resolution was 1280x1024. It seemed amazing at the time, but now, not so much.
@dbhansen
@dbhansen 3 жыл бұрын
Oh nice! I had a PS/1 when young, and have fond memories of it.
@misterkite
@misterkite 3 жыл бұрын
I have a 7" VGA monitor that's limited to 640x480 and black and white. It was a supermarket checkout monitor in a past life.
@alexandrecouture2462
@alexandrecouture2462 3 жыл бұрын
Take a second to appreciate how this IBM stuff is not yellowed at all. This is quality plastic!
@datassetteuser356
@datassetteuser356 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, CRTs are just amazing, the glow and the scanlines ... can't emulate that. (Well, you can obviously, but it's not the sam). Also like small monitors, there is just something about them. When I was young, I found a monochrome (green) Commodore montor once in bulk garbage. It looked nice, I took it home and used it with my C64. Heck, I had a color TV in my room, but I often preferred the look of that small little greenscreen monitor. And when I saw an amber monitor then one day, I had to "upgrade" :-) Anyway, I digress. Amazing videos, especially on CRTs. Keep on the great work and enjoy all the Haribo's you can get :-D Cheers!
@johanlaurasia
@johanlaurasia 3 жыл бұрын
They're called alignment trimmer toolkits.
@ChrisKewl
@ChrisKewl 3 жыл бұрын
I always heard them called diddle sticks. Thanks!
@marciomaiajr
@marciomaiajr 3 жыл бұрын
Almost 100K! Congrats Adrian. Your channel is awesome.
@Denvermorgan2000
@Denvermorgan2000 3 жыл бұрын
The Purpose of the tool at 20:14 is the tool does not interfere with the component while you are adjusting it they are made of ceramic or plastic so they are not magnetic.
@marksterling8286
@marksterling8286 3 жыл бұрын
I used to have a old compaq vga monitor, it was only vga colour no super vga. But it was great for my home netware 3.12 server. The monitor was very slim you could push it far back on the bench with the mini tower sat next to it. It had an easy to find rocker switch on the right that looked like the rocker on the 386s desktop
@tekvax01
@tekvax01 3 жыл бұрын
(19:46) Coil Craft Variable inductor tuning tool or Trituner or Slot Tuner tool. Newerk 1PK-606A-F Trimming Tool Set or trimmer inductor (Potentiometer) adjustment tool.
@piratestation69
@piratestation69 3 жыл бұрын
Old games look awesome on a crt. Just recently plugged my modded Neo Geo AES into a 32inch sony triniton via svideo and man it makes a difference. If i was in the neighborhood i'd have you fix my c64 1702 monitor. Needs to be recalibrated. Im to scared taking it apart. Crts are hard to come by these days.
@willsofer3679
@willsofer3679 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, the IBM PS/1 was my first PC. I had a TI 99 4/A before that. But I loved my IBM, including the design of the monitor, with the audio controls onboard. I learned to program on it in QBASIC. Unfortunately, while I was away at my first semester of university, my father threw it out because it was "old". Including the fantastic IBM Model M keyboard, and the PS1 mouse, which was also clicky and fantastic (I liked the aesthetic of it, for sure). I do miss that computer.
@omega552003
@omega552003 3 жыл бұрын
Adrian, I don't mind the CRT repair videos. Its great to see the methodology on how to fix them.
@lemagreengreen
@lemagreengreen 3 жыл бұрын
That PS/1 is so neat, I don't remember ever seeing one back then though.
@Natures_Intentions
@Natures_Intentions 3 жыл бұрын
Crt displays are a must for vintage games computers and game consoles
@Psychlist1972
@Psychlist1972 3 жыл бұрын
My first PC was a PS/1 286. That VGA monitor was nice. The PC had additional modules you could stack for things like ISA slots, a 5-1/4 disk drive, etc. I had all those, so the monitor was up way too high and had to be moved to next to the PC :P After I built my 486, I gave the PS/1 to my sister for her college papers. It ran GEOS and Ensemble really well for a 286 with only 2.5mb memory.
@Hidyman
@Hidyman 3 жыл бұрын
18:28 I would suggest keeping the extra cable inside the back of the monitor. Just wire-tie it to that choke.
@NealClewlow
@NealClewlow 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Adrian, I believe those tools are called Pot[entiometer] Trimmers - a google on 'Pot Trimmer' seem to bring up similar items. HTH N
@AerikForager
@AerikForager 3 жыл бұрын
@19:35 Trimmer tool, trim-pot tool, or potentiometer adjustment tool. ;)
@a4000t
@a4000t 3 жыл бұрын
The beautiful glow of a quality CRT is just excelent
@scharkalvin
@scharkalvin 3 жыл бұрын
That alignment tool looks like something that Heathkit supplied with their kits.
@ericpaul4575
@ericpaul4575 3 жыл бұрын
Back in the day I got a set of them from Radio Shack.
@tankgrrl
@tankgrrl 3 жыл бұрын
My mom had a PS/1 with a similar monitor back in the day and I _hated_ it with a deep and abiding passion. It was hard to work on and everything was proprietary.
@batlin
@batlin 3 жыл бұрын
My aunt had one of those monitors with an IBM PS1 computer that had been thrown out in an office refresh in the early 1990s. Good memories learning DOS and either GWBASIC or BASICA. Those blue control sliders on the front of the monitor felt terrible and flimsy, from what I remember...
@corvus00
@corvus00 3 жыл бұрын
I think I know what you are saying Adrian. The CRTs are just *warmer* in both temperature senses!
@alexandrecouture2462
@alexandrecouture2462 3 жыл бұрын
I have one, alongside a IBM PS/1 model 2011 and it works very well! It is slightly blurry, just like yours, but it is they way they always were. It goes perfectly alongside DOS games at a lower resolution. You should better put back the fan because they will get hot after half an hour or so. I replaced the fan in mine.
@csabasanta5696
@csabasanta5696 3 жыл бұрын
Do not stop doing CRT stuff! :) Great video, Adrian! Thanks!
@iocat
@iocat 3 жыл бұрын
XP machine should have been able to drive the monitor at 640 x 480 as an extended display. Love the aesthetic of the monitor, honestly!
@techgeeknzl
@techgeeknzl 3 жыл бұрын
For a VGA monitor, it would have to be 640x480@60Hz. An out-of-spec refresh rate would have the same effect as an out-of-spec revolution. Edit: it might, in theory, be possible to drive a VGA monitor at 800 lines, interlaced at 35Hz; provided you could find a graphics card that can be programmed to create such timings.
@iocat
@iocat 3 жыл бұрын
@@techgeeknzl my point is, xp can drive 60hz 640 x 480 no problem. It's just not going to mirror that 16:9 display successfully.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
XP and later only let you set down to 800x600 pixels with 16-bit color. It will do 640x480 but the option's hidden, you need to go a few screens deep in the advanced options to find it.
@angrydove4067
@angrydove4067 3 жыл бұрын
You are becoming the patron saint of CRTs.
@JamesSkemp
@JamesSkemp 3 жыл бұрын
This was the first computer we had, I believe. Love the power button on it.
@januszkszczotek8587
@januszkszczotek8587 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting video Adrian. Up until now I thought that the Amstrad PC1512/PC1640 were the only PC compatibles with the power supply located in the monitor.
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 3 жыл бұрын
They must have set the trend as this was a later machine. IBM influenced by Amstrad!
@techgeeknzl
@techgeeknzl 3 жыл бұрын
@@adriansdigitalbasement remember the FUD wars with IBM vs Amstrad? IBM: OMG! Don't buy an Amstrad, because it doesn't have a cooling fan and it will overheat! Amstrad: Fine! We'll stick a fan in the corner of the case that just uselessly circulates air through the cooling vents, because our customers insist on having a noisy computer.
@Alexis_du_60
@Alexis_du_60 3 жыл бұрын
Ah that's the monitor for the PS/1 2011 (286) and 2121 (386SX), similar to the Amstrad PC1512, it also doubles as a power supply for the computer. In theory you can run this unit as a standalone VGA CRT monitor, there's even a B&W version. As for the Sony Trinitron on top of the 5170, these Trinitron PC CRTs have a known fault known as "G2 drift" which causes them to have a washed out picture, it's due to a "algorithm" that Sony added that would raise the G2 voltage to compensate for tube wear, unfortunately that algorithm tends to go bananas over time and artificially increases the G2 to such high levels that in some extreme cases, the monitor starts showing retrace lines. It can be fixed fortunately but you'd need a USB to TTL dongle, and a copy of the "Windas" adjustement software. It's a bit daunting initially but once you get the hang of it, it's almost a breeze.
@eDoc2020
@eDoc2020 3 жыл бұрын
I could've used that Trinitron knowledge a few years ago when I still had an E500. If Adrian thinks his little 17" version (apparently 44 lbs) is heavy, he hasn't had the 21" version. If I had it all fixed up and if it weren't so freaking bulky I'd probably be using it as a primary monitor today.
@Alexis_du_60
@Alexis_du_60 3 жыл бұрын
@@eDoc2020 Definitely... Trinitrons are insanely heavy, I once tried to lift a 29" (KV-29FX20B) one, I could barely lift it a millimeter from the ground.
@McTroyd
@McTroyd 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this Adrian! That PS/1 you pictured is my first computer, and I still have it (along with its optional 5.25" drive, which mounts on the bottom of the PC). It pains me to say it, but you're right, it's not a "super useful" computer in itself. Where it excelled as a home computer, it was bomb-proof. DOS and its "four quad" GUI were burned into ROM, making it fast as hell for the 286 it was. It also meant, as long as you kept your work saved, you really didn't have to follow any kind of "shutdown" sequence -- just turn it off. There was a comprehensive, graphical System Tutor that walked through the whole machine in detail, even providing an environment to try things out without modifying the actual machine. So, as a "general purpose" do-everything computer, it wasn't great. But, it was a phenomenal "first" machine, especially in 1990. It might still be a good machine to learn DOS on, as well.
@silmarian
@silmarian 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the PS/2 computers my middle school's library had back in the early 90s. The screens on those were blurry, too, iirc
@xyzconceptsYT
@xyzconceptsYT 3 жыл бұрын
0:18 - Techmoan called, he politely asked for his shirt back. Bahahaha. Love your work, Adrian.
@shmehfleh3115
@shmehfleh3115 3 жыл бұрын
I still use a CRT monitor in my MAME cabinet. It looks close enough to a genuine 15 kHz arcade monitor without the hassle of trying to drive one from a PC. And of course, all my old computers use their age-appropriate CRT monitors.
@Jamesnov1970
@Jamesnov1970 3 жыл бұрын
Just found a Hewlett Packard 13 inch crt monitor made in 2001. Works good even though it was out in the rain for over a week.
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how resilient electronics actually is!
@Jamesnov1970
@Jamesnov1970 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, I grabbed it for a cocktail table Arcade machine project. But sadly it is not going to fit, but the size you have there would do nicely :)
@R4mbo87
@R4mbo87 3 жыл бұрын
I hope some day some company will create new crts for affordable prices
@RetroCaptain
@RetroCaptain 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me I had,...a working PS/2 monitor. Was marked, made in USA (NY). I dropped it off at the recycle place..had it mixed up with a bad one.
@molivil
@molivil 3 жыл бұрын
I've had several IBM VGA monitors and I have to say all of them have had a real great picture. I always said that Doom 1/2 looks the best on these monitors, with dark areas looking scary and menacing and bright areas really popping out.
@JVHShack
@JVHShack 3 жыл бұрын
To Adrian: since you have a working PS/1 monitor, it would be nice to have a pinout of the DB15 connector for those of us that have the computer but not the monitor so a power supply can be built. I did try to find one online with no luck.
@Jayoldstuff1
@Jayoldstuff1 3 жыл бұрын
I did it a while back kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHTEpXpsrdmXpZo
@adriansdigitalbasement
@adriansdigitalbasement 3 жыл бұрын
It's here actually: oldcomputer.info/pc/ps1_2121/index.htm#video
@terryraymond7984
@terryraymond7984 3 жыл бұрын
I have a few Magnavox monitors that have a fuzzy picture so now I know how to fix that, thanks.
@misterjib
@misterjib 3 жыл бұрын
Kinda wackadoodle looking, I actually quite like the sloped side elevation
@talideon
@talideon 3 жыл бұрын
That was pretty typical of IBM at the time.
@Controllerhead
@Controllerhead 3 жыл бұрын
Nice to hear the synthwave again =)
@locnar1701
@locnar1701 3 жыл бұрын
Before I watched these videos, and might have been able to learn how to fix it, I threw away (recycled really) a 9" monochrome 1024x684 monitor with a VGA interface. I used to use it on my server stack in my homelab. I loved that little monitor. The flyback failed after 20 years.
@infamousacidrain
@infamousacidrain 3 жыл бұрын
That was my first PC (had a Commodore 64 before that). Original 286 model, 10mhz, 30mb had and 1mb ram. Solid machine, but as others stated, the 286 is not great. Basically no upgrade capability, you had to get a special chassis extension to get card slots and I think it had an option for a proprietary sound card. Played a lot of old Sierra games on mine. Pc speaker and I eventually got the Disney sound source for some digital effects. The built in rom gui was cool. There is a ps1 emulator out there that shows it off well.used to take on BBSes at 2400 bps
@Soft15kHz
@Soft15kHz 3 жыл бұрын
The one thing I personaly would do, is figure out how the audio is hooked up, and put a 3d printed bracket with a standard 3.5mm jack in that hole on the back. just because there is a volume slider :D
@TheRetroShack
@TheRetroShack 3 жыл бұрын
I guess either before anyone considered ergonomics, or way ahead of it’s time in ergonomics - depending on your point of view :) Nice video Adrian.
@tellyjoossens4186
@tellyjoossens4186 3 жыл бұрын
Watching this on a 12 inch laptop so yeah, I totally know what you mean about sometimes wanting a smaller screen.
@pipschannel1222
@pipschannel1222 3 жыл бұрын
Love those old VGA CRTs. Convergence and sharpness is not as good as on the newer multisyncs but the small size is really cool and the color and contrast is pretty good indeed (blows the socks of any backlit LCD/TFT screen)! I think these PS/1 CRTs were pretty reliable. Most of them are from around 1989/1990 so IBM learnt from their 'mistakes' engineering their PS/2 CRTs. The first PS/2 CRTs like the first 8513s (one of the very first VGA monitors): Not so much. One of mine (a rev. 1) exploded last week and the parts are really hard to come by. I love them anyways :-)
@CPUGalaxy
@CPUGalaxy 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. I love those small crts as well so much with old games. 👍🏻
@TheAmazingAdventuresOfMiles
@TheAmazingAdventuresOfMiles 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, great informative video. I bought one of these new in 1993, but the mono version. I still have it, it still works just fine. It's actually a really nice screen, clean and sharp. Really sharp actually, but then the mono variants always are. I was thinking of trying to make up an adapter so I could use a down-sampled 1024x768 to display on it (max res is natively 640x480 as you said). This would allow the use of Windows 10 etc that don't work at 640x480.
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