THE IDEA OF ARAB UNITY - A Dream Deferred or a Path to Progress

[@meochan7786]

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[@thekandarichronicles]

Greatly appreciate that you’re along with me on this journey. Sharing hopes is a strong momentum builder.

[@AhmedA-vd3vt]

Thanks!

[@thekandarichronicles]

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[@irreview]

I remember once reading a biography of Gamal Abdul Nasser. At the end of the book, the author writes how he heard of Nasser passing away in 1970, he pulled over as he was driving in a car on the highway. A police officer pulled up to the side behind him, and asked if everything was alright, as the turn was sudden. The driver replied, "Forgive me, officer, but i have just lost a member of my family." If you lived in that time, you would have been caught up in the nationalist fervor and hope of modern progress in the 1960s and 1970s

[@Redline6ix]

You're work is brilliant, ive watched this 3 times in a loop. The outro is very touching, especially i think to those of us it matters to.

[@joejoey7272]

You can’t get pan Arabian unity but you can get blocks of Arab unity. North African Arabs can form a block , levant Arabs can form a block , and of course the gulf countries already have a block . These blocks can work together

[@we7shewe7she67]

Totally agree

[@thekandarichronicles]

Absolutely one of the paths of least resistance. Well said.

[@zakback9937]

The north African Arabs can go back to Arabia for their block dream

[@EM-tx3ly]

Verily so Functional blocs before dysfunctional clogs

[@hishamalaker491]

Exactly what I had in my mind.

[@AhmedA-vd3vt]

absolute brilliance once again

[@Redline6ix]

Mashallah, honestly I love your channel, the subjects, your charisma, and presentation....for me our history, culture and future means so much to me.

[@digitalcatto]

I don't have any roots that I know of, in arab nations... I'm from a latin American country, but I sincerely hope that the Pan-Arabism gets revived! Honestly, in south and central America we're fighting the same fights, we're divided when the struggle is the same: The US and Europe just sticking their dirty hands in here, one way or the other and making people more empovrished with corruption, with lack of proper education, history education is deeply eurocentric and now in the last century, also making us love the US like "the good guys" that they are. All of that while all of our past got erased. Only very few have any ancestral knowledge of who we were before colonization. That destabilization is intended so they can keep stealing lands and resources with the complicity of puppet governments that make it easy for them. I think Arab countries could benefit each other if they were united, not just in a sentiment, but also, expelling the global north out of there and realizing that if they continue that same model that the global north has implemented, that alone, will lead to their doom. If you're a big family, u need to treat it as such and help the ones that are being attacked unfairly, just like when a member of your family gets hurt. Wouldn't u do that for your siblings? Parents? Forgive my ignorant soul for not knowing much about u all, but Yemen seems like the perfect example for that. I refuse to think people are so empty-hearted that prefer their own privileges while looking away for whatever is happening to their own extended family. And most importantly: I don't think it's a lie. I am able to see it oceans away, but I think it needs to be restored ASAP. And u and only u all can achieve that.

[@LebaneseNostalgia]

Arab unity will always struggle if it is rooted in nationalism. True unity should be based on ideological Islam and the Arabic language. As an Arab with Levantine coastal origins, I see no issue in embracing the legacy of our ancient ancestors, such as the Canaanites and Phoenicians. This heritage is a valuable part of our historical identity, which I deeply cherish as a Muslim Arab today. Being Arab encompasses a wide range of identities and ancestral backgrounds. While there are different types of Arabs with diverse histories, we share profound commonalities-most importantly, our religion and language. These bonds form the cornerstone of our collective identity, further strengthened by the fact that our lands stretch continuously across continents. I also appreciate our differences, whether in food, clothing, dialects, or cultural practices. These distinctions enrich our shared heritage. If the vast majority of Arabs unite under the umbrella of Islam, these differences can be harmonized in positive ways, preventing them from spiraling into division. At the same time, minorities are a vital part of the solution, not the problem. The real issue lies in the weakness of the majority, which allows external forces to manipulate minorities and sow harmful divisions. It is evident that the Western world fears the potential of a unified Arab world. They understand that such unity, given our region’s strategic position, would transform the Arab world into a global superpower.

[@tausifchowdhury8180]

@@LebaneseNostalgia I have to disagree on that front. Because Arab nationalism came the closest to a stable Arabian superpower. Case in point the UAR. If it weren't for the various egos of the leaders of said Arab nations we would've already had an Arab superstate in the world by now especially with the oil boom coming into effect. However, Arab unity surrounding around religion is an extremely bad idea. I should know I come from a country that tried exactly that. A common Arab identity should slowly be built before any major actions can be taken due to the massive interference of foreign powers. If you build a state based on Islam you'll easily be labelled a terrorist or extremist and there's always the danger of your nation turning into a theocracy. So,.. Yeah not the best idea

[@jafroni6479]

Great take

[@Mangojozie]

Uniting under the umbrella of Islam (or any religion for that matter) does not work, it will alienate all the non-Muslim minorities in the Arab world. Islam is a religion, not an identity, an Egyptian Muslim is closer to an Egyptian Copt than to a Muslim from Pakistan or Bangladesh. Besides unite under the umbrella of which Islam: Sunni or Shii? Which madhab?

[@saraal768-y3n]

@@LebaneseNostalgia صح لسانك

[@saraal768-y3n]

@@tausifchowdhury8180why should we care about what the west thinks? If we unite, there will be potentials to uniting muslims around the world as well. And with this unity we won’t need the west. Those who have mistreated us and killed millions of our brothers and sisters. Sudan and syria alone could feed the whole region. Our oil is more than enough for us and more. Let them think what they want, we know they’re better than any people in the world

[@ABJADs]

شكرا على الطرح، هل أنت عربي أم فارسي.

[@ТатьянаМуха-н5ш]

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[@yhamilajojo8847]

Beautiful...

[@MaJetiGizzle]

I do think a major factor that contributes to a lack of Arab unity boils down to the material conditions related to economics, trade, infrastructure, culture, etc. Mutually beneficial localized trade deals, economic development arrangements, major infrastructure projects, and subsidized cultural exchange programs could help to improve these conditions towards unity in the long run under Arab leaders that must be willing to plant these seeds to trees from which they will not live long enough to enjoy the real fruit.

[@jwd2690]

Brilliant speaking 👏

[@thekandarichronicles]

Appreciate it greatly. Thanks for the wonderful support.

[@BlueBedouin]

Arab unity is a very real thing but people from MENA aren't allowed to legally practice it, we internationally aren't allowed to become a block for ourselves

[@think4thesoul]

arab unity is defined by violence, dictatorship and the stripping of freedom. Always had been and continous to be.

[@Redline6ix]

You are speaking to me....Ahlam El Arab

[@Iosef426]

Unity Liberty Socialism - Michel 🕯️🇸🇾⭐️

[@ksaleh91]

Muslim unity is the answer. Anything else is fluffy.

[@Liam1991]

If you say so

[@ksaleh91]

@ history says so. There have been several strong empires that were united however loosely under that broader idea. As he said pan Arabism is new and if you ask me unsustainable. And he also pointed out it alluded to the same.

[@Aresydatch]

I want to see Islamic Based Arabian Unity, but I do not want to be united with Pakistan on the same block

[@ksaleh91]

@ yeah because you are a racist. Anything Arab is hopeless. And frankly, the Arabs have never achieved anything before Islam. It’s Muslim or nothing. And btw this coming from an Arab.

[@veramae4098]

In the wars, actual wars, against Israel, Egypt supplies most of the foot soldiers. Because of the treaty negotiated under President Carter, Egypt agreed to peace. No more foot soldiers.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Mostly true Vera. But I dont believe thats the only factor in unity.

[@NorahsYarnArt]

No foot soldiers on the outside makes for a very congested environment on the inside. Things change. Nothing lasts forever is life’s no 1 rule.

[@ehabl8816]

the day we leave the hands of the imperialist and provide unrestricted travel between us that's the day when we gonna be closer to Unity

[@PatrickMoon994]

Ruler's ego. All arab nation ruler have big ego to one up one another. There are not singular goal to unite the Arab or I can say even humanity. Make an Arab Space Station. Oil-rich money arab countries can definitely kickstart the space program. (instead of funding who built bigger/highest building.) Make it exciting by heavy media exposition. (this is the most important part) Using arab language at space will interest other's arab state. Make cooperation/block to contribute to the space program. (funding/manpower/technology/etc) Showcase by sending every representation of Arab countries to the space. Nothing will top bigger ego to the world by having you own space station and coalition. To make even more history is having an Arab settler on Mars.

[@abrahamcollier]

4:50 How did someone so literate simultaneously in general internet culture and in Islamic culture find their way onto the KZbin?

[@ehabl8816]

not a great comment

[@abrahamcollier]

@ why so? 🙏

[@ehabl8816]

@@abrahamcollier that allude to saying someone of his qualities do not belong to KZbin and to the civilised introduction of thoughts

[@abrahamcollier]

@ I meant the opposite, and I apologize for my confusing wording:) I think his unusually profound knowledge in both areas is an incredible gift for KZbin

[@mohamedz87]

Arab rule didn't end with the rise of the Ottomans. If we're to be more accurate, it would be when the Abbasid Caliphate become nothing more than a symbol of legitimacy for its Turkish Seljuk protectors. Ever since then, Arabs didn't rule. But Muslims did. Even Andalusia by that time was ruled by a mix of different ethnicities and cultures, including Iberian indigenous Muslims, Amazigh, some Arabs, and former Slavic slaves. (Mujahid al-Amiri as one prominent example.) Arab nationalism was used by the West during the Ottomans the same way Kurdish national aspirations are being used by the West against Syria, Iraq, and Turkey today. We just can't see the hypocrisy of our stance and our denial of theirs while we celebrate ours and fail naively to learn from our mistakes.

[@fdsgdgdgdgdgdfsdsds7405]

Islam unified us, not an Arab dream or zhared ethnicity. Islam is the only thing common between all these nations.

[@yurgen5713]

Islam is not the only thing common between the Arab nations, but it is the most important commonality. You disregard the shared language, history and struggle, culture, dna, cuisine, and so forth.

[@fdsgdgdgdgdgdfsdsds7405]

@yurgen5713 None of those you mentioned are constant across the board and none of those were able to unite even the closest of tribes for hundreds of years. Islam is the only constant, Islam is what united these warring people, and Islam will be the only factor that will be able to unite "arabs" and all human kinds together.

[@zakback9937]

​@@yurgen5713doesn't unify North Africa under the pan Arab dream in that

[@NamesPhimble]

exactly islam made the arabs strong , islam made the turks strong

[@LuisAldamiz]

If that would be true then Indonesia or Bangladesh or even Tanzania would be almost indistinct from Morocco and Lebanon. Nope: it's language what makes ethnicities, even if in this case it's linked to a medieval religious empire-building (it was the empire and not so much the religion what unified and even created those Arabs).

[@Liam1991]

Unfortunately, you can't have national or ethnic unity. Especially under capitalism. Only under working class unity will this work

[@ibnlahad2982]

It's in Arabs best interest to untie

[@batosato]

Arab world has never seen unity in history. We shouldn't confuse dictatorship, and dynasty as a mean to bringing Arab nations under one umbrella. The only way to achieve unity is through democracy which is largely missing from Arab as well as Muslim world.

[@batosato]

@florenzpo which democracy or dynasty united lands?

[@LuisAldamiz]

That's not enough of an objection: Italy and Germany were first unified by oligarchic force (Rome and the Ottonians respectively) but later became grassroots social realities by using a common standard language even long before achieving reunification, which was not just "democratic" but also imposed by force (more democratic in Italy than in Germany but in both cases a leading maverick power, Sardinia and Prussia respectively, took the lead and won the unification wars). In Arabia two leaders tried to do that: first more openly Nasser, later more deviously Saddam Hussein. The destruction of the latter pretty much smashed the Arab dream for the time being, but not forever.

[@tausifchowdhury8180]

​@@florenzpoexactly

[@Aresydatch]

The Saud Dynasty Almost united Arabia in 1800s and they were just close to liberating Jerusalem from the Turk-Ottoman occupation We liberated Makkah and Madina, no power got close to us

[@batosato]

@Aresydatch liberated with the help of non Muslims? Who said it was liberated? It is a dynasty not a democracy. Islam does not promote dynasties. Saudi Arabia is the only country named after a family. Makkah and Medina were captured by the Saud not liberated. Saud opted to divide the Muslim World by separating away from the ottoman empire.

[@rorofaisal01]

If all Arab countries unite and collaborate with the Saudi government and remove any Iranian influence from their lands, we would progress significantly and take a leading role in the world.

[@thekandarichronicles]

Do you believe KSA would be open to taking such a leading role in unifying the Arab world? And which countries do you think would be most likely to contemplate such a union?

[@LuisAldamiz]

LOL, Bin Salman? He's one of the main obstacles to Arab unity. Even Iran is more likely to achieve some sort of Arab unity than any of those backwards sheikhs who have been promoted by Anglo imperialism.

[@raccoonologist9059]

@@thekandarichronicles What do you mean would be open? KSA is and has been always clear with the idea of united arabs nations, to provide prosperity into this region it's always and has been doing and calling for.

[@tausifchowdhury8180]

​@@raccoonologist9059Yeah, they've done so much! Like bombing Yemen out of existence, funding radical fundamentalist groups, using the Levant as meat shields etc. Such saints the Saudis are.

[@tausifchowdhury8180]

​@@thekandarichroniclesAbsolutely not. Arab nationalism is an inherent threat to the various monarchies in the region and is thus an existential threat to the Saudi family. They'll never let a superstate take form especially not one in which they don't have absolute power and control. We've seen how tolerant they are of criticism after all

[@wtf_Sha_HDa]

I like how you describe the problem I'm 12:59 not gonna tell you that I'm okay 100% with your final statement about being compassion with shias for example but still god bless your efforts

[@MrFahadAqeel]

Very informative and important. Right after listening to this I found an interesting lecture on the division of the Roman empire. The parables between Islamic Golden Age and studying how Rome broke to pieces is interesting. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pmjFgIZrrr2pjtksi=03M-ZC2mcTSnVJqL

[@AeliusCaesar]

People study the same language at school as children doesn't make a great union

[@thekandarichronicles]

There is more to it than language that is for sure. Even still, not enough to realise any intention of unity.

[@AeliusCaesar]

@thekandarichronicles I live in the Arab world & I'm not even an Arab & my people lived in this land for millennia & we're forced to claim to be Arabs for some stupid & failed ideology . & No one understands us when we speak to other Arabic speaking people

[@LuisAldamiz]

Arabs probably need to learn from the history of Italy: much like (Greater) Arabia was created by the Muslim Empire (which was also the Arab Empire), Italy was created by Rome (eventually becoming the national metropolis of their colonial empire until Caracalla, Diocletian and Constantine changed that for good: the first giving citizenship to all non-slave provincial men, the second moving the capital to Greece, the latter radically replacing the ideology/religion of the state). Italy, once the proud master of the Mediterranean, became yet another province and subsequently it was butchered by foreign conquerors (Byzantines and Franks first, French, Spanish and Austrians later). In the middle of all this disunity and foreign collaboration that Machiavelli and Petrarca lamented so much was the Pope but also the idea of "the emperor", both looking backwards and both keeping Italy divided and and under foreign domination. It took Italy some 1500 years to get reunited and when that happened both Papacy and "Empire" were smashed, it could not be any other way.

[@abdalazizariff5154]

Opposed to the fallacy of Pan-Arabism, the irrevocable historical reality of the wider region revolves around the following points: a- The entire population of today’s Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Libya is Berber (Amazigh) - not Arab; b- The outright majority of the population of today’s Egypt is Coptic (irrespective of religion), whereas the local minorities are: the Nubians, the Berbers, the Beja, and the Sinai Bedouins; c- The quasi-totality of the population of today’s Sudan is Cushitic and the minorities are of Nilo-Saharan origin (notably the Nubians, the Berta, the Nuba, etc.); d- The entire population of today’s Yemen and Oman is Yemenite, i.e. nonArab, as it is proven by the corpus of pre-Islamic epigraphic monuments excavated throughout Saudi-occupied Najran, Yemen, Hadhramaut, Mahra, Socotra, Dhofar and Oman. It must be added that, deciphered thanks to their relationship with Axumite Ge’ez, the Ancient Yemenite languages (Sabaean, Qatabani, Himyarite, Hadhrami and Minaean / Ma’in) are Semitic, but totally unrelated to Arabic; and e- The outright majority of the population of today’s Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Jordan, Palestine/Israel, Kuwait, Qatar, UAE and the Saudi North is Aramaean. The same is also valid for the Arabic-speaking populations of SE Turkey and SW Iran. The local minorities are: the Turkmen, as well as the Kurmanjis, the Shabaks, the Yazidis, the Soranis, the Failis and others (who are collectively, but mistakenly, called ‘Kurds’). All the same, throughout this vast region, in striking contrast with the historical truth, the French and English propaganda has divided the population into Christians and Muslims, mistakenly and deliberately identifying the former with Aramaeans and the latter with ‘Arabs’. Syria’s and Iraq’s populations did not identify themselves as ‘Arabs’ before the arrival of colonial spies and agents in the 18th c. Ottoman Empire. It is wrong to pretend that these populations used Quranic Arabic as vernacular before the colonials arrived. They used to speak several vernacular dialects with many words from Syriac Aramaic. Arabic was only the religious language for the Muslims, but it was a dead language; Quranic Arabic ceased progressively to be a spoken language in the advent of the Mongol invasions, the ensuing wars, and the relocation of Turkmen tribes in the wider region of Western Asia. Similar conditions existed in Egypt where numerous mixed (Coptic / Arabic) dialects were spoken and in NorthNorthwest Africa, a vast region with a great number of Berber vernaculars. While all these populations were part of the Islamic Caliphate, during and before the Ottoman times, the prevailing notion of the word ‘nation’ was totally unrelated to the Modern Western concept of ‘nation’ about which I already expanded. The French and the English came up with a monstrous plan of Arabization of the Berbers, the Copts, the Aramaeans, and all the rest. They introduced successive campaigns of linguistic Arabization after they fabricated a constructed language, which is called ‘Modern Standard Arabic’ (al-Arabīyah al-Fuṣḥa al-Ḥaditha/ ا ا ا ;(ىحصفلا ةيبرعلا) creation is again not a native language. It is as false as Modern Hebrew and Modern Greek, being the pure result of Western Orientalists, Semitic linguists, grammarians, and their local servants (instructors or students).

[@ed-fm]

I am Tunisian *and half spanish but you may ignore that* and I might be Amazigh I might have Turkish or Ottoman ancestry (Im 90% sure I do) or Sephardic Jewish ancestry or Italian or Balkan whatever it may be and I couldnt care less! Thanks to the Berbers we have Couscous, thanks to the Italians we have pasta, thanks to the Jews we have so many unique dishes mostly streetfood and thanks to the Turks we have BAKLAVA. Other than that, I am Tunisian first then Arab second. But just like the other ethnicities I sort of dont care for arab patriotism? I do feel connected to the other Arab peoples (Levantines Iraqis Egyptians and especially Maghrebis, Peninsulars not so much) I also consume content from those places but I feel Tunisia is distinct enough to be independant even from a hypothetical Maghrebi state. But I like the Arabic language and its dialects, especially Levantine Arabic it sounds majestic. I dont know what Im trying to say but I dont think ethnicity matters a lot, especially for Arabized arabs who speak Arabic natively like me and 98% of Tunisians, for non native Arabic speakers like Kabyles or Kurds or Assyrians or Touaregs etc.. I 100% support their rights and maybe independance but Im not informed enough to make such claims. So basically I dont think Europeans should tell us to re embrace some hundred or thousand year old identities in 2025, the same Europeans whose cultures are different from there ethnicities (exaples correct me if im wrong: Spaniards and French; Spaniards are an ethnic mix of native iberian peoples, celtic people, germanic people latins and arabs or north africans, but Spain is overwhelmingly dominated by Latin culture, France can be summed up pretty much the same with Gaulois people and whatnot) sorry If i misspell I am on computer and I dont have autocorrect