The Idol Explained | Episode 5 Review and Reaction

[@Silverscreenfreak]

I meant 500,000 dollars not 50 😅

[@thethmooteresa]

🎉😂 50 dollers is still 50 dollers

[@lo3466]

A show made by men has made the point that a very young woman exploited since childhood by everyone around is actually the villain. Wow.

[@mamewedjisylla7991]

The good old "she wanted it too" of a rappist, figures

[@samf.s.7731]

Not super empowering as they thought it would be. This is supposed to be her freeing herself from everyone, her mother, her entourage, and her abusive boyfriend. In a world where no one was looking after her, she was going to be her own best advocate.. Problem is, she's a "villain"? Yeh... that's very problematic.

[@Paddrique]

@@samf.s.7731isn’t it framed that her mom never abused her? That’s even worse, making survivors of abuse in media look like they would do EVERYTHING to get the big break.

[@sybill123ful]

AND then she forgives tedros, didn’t say anything about Rob, completely forgot about lea and dyanne; and were supposed to just like her????? i have no idea why they thought we would want to see jocelyn thrive after how terrible of a person she is

[@Paddrique]

@@sybill123ful I don’t really think the show tried to make anyone likable. Just nihilism.

[@TheNinjapancake14]

Sickening. This plot twist is not satisfying at all. It could’ve been interesting if I actually cared about Jocelyn’s character. I can’t feel any sympathy for Tedros because he weirded me out the whole time.

[@Silverscreenfreak]

Yes! I forgot to mention how there was a point where it felt like the show wanted us to feel bad for tedros which like who would/could ever??!

[@averyspecificdragon8780]

@@Silverscreenfreak honestly I just felt shadenfreude. Like good, someone finally took advantage of HIM for once. Let him see how it feels. Other then that the show was such an eh.

[@lindseystein9676]

I don’t think we’re supposed to feel sympathy for tedros. Or Jocelyn, for that matter.

[@Silencex84]

This show had insane amounts of potential but it fell incredibly flat. It kind of infuriates me because I can easily imagine an alternate universe where this show turned out to be an emmy winning masterpiece.

[@cloudlesscliche9508]

100% spot on

[@nont18411]

The Amy Seimetz universe

[@nont18411]

Jocelyn being the villain has the same vibe as “I’m 14 and he’s 40 but I’m the one in control” in Euphoria. Very sick fetish from Sam.

[@catspaghetti4515]

SERIOUSLY! Thats exactly where my mind went, and it really doesnt feel like an art-imitates-life moment, just a sam levinson ruined a story to fulfill his fantasies and justified it by vilifying who in the real world would be a victim

[@blondie_adri]

You nailed it 👏 he's obviously unleashing his twisted fantasies, clear as day at this point.

[@ryanchavers4650]

Wait who was that in euphoria lol ?

[@Rickystarkvox]

I feel like this would have hit better if it was like a 3 hour movie and not a tv show Clip all the unnecessary scenes And magnify the stronger scenes We could’ve had a decent film

[@samf.s.7731]

I was literally thinking that just now! I feel like it would have had better flow, and hammered the themes home better. Her coming out on top at the end would have felt like an actual win.

[@satu4rnq]

i don't think so it's just a horrible tv show literally it has no goal only pleasing male gaze which is even more disgusting also the fact that they could've shown the misery of female celebrities in a better way as a lot of movies/ tv shows did idk i just find it really hard to watch they literally did it to SEXUALISE WOMEN and normalise the rape/abuse culture they be like " IT'S MY BODY" meanwhile using THIS BODY to tolerate rape what a shame .

[@nunnaurbiznez8815]

That's exactly what I was thinking.

[@Erin-el1gi]

HOW DID THE WIG PROGRESSIVELY GET WORSE

[@daisykisses8803]

😧🤣

[@mermaidindisguisee]

This show had the worst ending possible. Didn’t make any sense and left a lot of viewers with questions. In reality, it all traces back to bad screenwriting. The entirety of “The Idol” felt as if Sam Levinson was just showcasing his fetishes for an hour. Great review on the worst episode of this (THANKFULLY) short lived show.

[@hexcrawler]

The ending makes sense in context of the opening shot of the series. And the opening scene as well. The shot of her in the photo shoot showed us how easily she can manipulate her emotions. The opening scene gets mirrored at the concert. Like hefty well constructed bookends. Massive Eyes Wide Shut vibes. It’ll be a cult classic soon. And there’s talks of a season 2.

[@coryf725]

I’m almost convinced this was some sort of money laundering plot or a producers type scenario. This show was pretty exclusively filmed in the weeknds house and that concert scene was filmed at his concert. It’s filled with mostly their friends too. But they were still so over budget? Where the fuck did it go? Certainly not on location wigs and wardrobe.

[@Victoria-zs4fq]

Probably because they had to refilm a bunch of times. That’s why they had to used his house and the concert. It was getting too expensive

[@Everythingz127]

That's not even a rise, I was a wacky ascend💀

[@Silverscreenfreak]

😂😂 I love that

[@cloudlesscliche9508]

“She informs her squatters” Idk that made me chuckle 😂😂😂

[@Silverscreenfreak]

😂

[@curbsidecinema9122]

As weird as the showcase scene was, the biggest question I had during it was "are none of these music industry folks gonna acknowledge MIKE DEAN is here?!"

[@Salamander676]

Mike Dean was kinda hilarious when he said he was so high he didn’t even know what was going on or where he was at 😅😂😂😂

[@thirstaefortae5057]

Justice for Rob

[@moonkashots]

Fr 😭

[@shagunsingh7059]

Well I don't even know why jennie was in the show ....she has no screen time....just a veryyy side character

[@tokyo6017]

Bc they knew she would bring it major viewership from her fans , it’s so obvious too because she has like 10 lines throughout the whole show

[@mamagne800]

It was probably just to put her foot in the movie industry. Getting to know actors/actresses, producers, editors, behind the scenes etc....Jennie is smart and her brain is like a sponge. She had learned alot from this I'm pretty sure. I have 100% confidence in her.

[@canthinkaboutone]

Who is Jenny???

[@tokyo6017]

@@mamagne800 except that this show was definitely a shit show , she’s not a bad actress by any means but she’s not great either tbh , all in all it was an experience who knows with more acting classes she could be great 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️

[@harvarduniversity1213]

the actress , she’s part of a Kpop group BLACKPINK too

[@observantalien]

u forgot to mention the red riding hood symbolism when she wore the red scarf on her head.

[@VeSpEr7iNe]

Idk why you didn't mention that the fact that they frammed Jocelyn as the villain all along is so problematic and awful, is not just and underwhelming twist, is they saying that victims of abuse don't exist basically 💀

[@callmekiki882]

Agreed as a fellow survivor I hoped for better representation

[@hexcrawler]

You missed the plot. She’s an unreliable narrator. The opening shot of the show with the photo shoot is the clue. That’s not the same thing as being a villain. The show is about the nihilism and depravity of the music industry. No one can be trusted. Not even your “idols”.

[@missellehansen]

Wasted potential was a great analysis. Great vid!

[@Silverscreenfreak]

Glad you enjoyed it!❤

[@sarabenali7996]

this episode felt like a fever dream it made absolutely no sense

[@Laura-xr3gq]

Soooooo the main character we were supposed to root for has falsely accused of abuse two people?? For no reason????? What is the message here I'm so confused

[@daisykisses8803]

I guess the misogynistic view of it can be that even vulnerable women can be the “villains” while the male manipulators are not. Idk. It’s Sam Levington.

[@Laura-xr3gq]

@@daisykisses8803 it's certainly an interesting story that can be told but you need an amount of humbleness and emotional intelligence that nobody in the writer room of The Idol had

[@Victoria-zs4fq]

I don’t think we’re supposed to like either, everyone except Chloe is a two faced and manipulative

[@safestart6252]

you are not supposed to root for her at all she’s a villain and most ppl in the show are supposed to be, the premise is amazing could have been great if they made it add up in the slightest… there was no clues u could look back on that makes this narrative add up… in fact there’s contradictory information in the show. it’s like they wrote each episode without knowing what the next one would be about w no idea they were gonna make her the villain in the end like??? it x could have been amazing

[@Laura-xr3gq]

@@safestart6252 exactly I imagine the wiewers felt kinda betrayed, they felt compelled to feel sorry and want to protect this girl and now it's revealed they were rooting for a monster? Betraying your audience like that and not even making it an interesting plot twist is such a waste of time

[@nameisamine]

I like the Weeknd song at the end. It’s going on my playlist.

[@jkn8705]

Correction, Tedros was offered $500,000. Half a million dollars!! Big difference between 50 & 500.

[@ccole99]

I would love to see the original vision for this I think that would’ve been a great show that we all would’ve loved to seen!!!

[@jenhesse22]

I agree with your analysis. There were so many plot holes that the ending was unearned. I thought the finale was anticlimactic and convoluted.

[@lightandtheweight]

My mouth is agape at the writing choices at everyyy turn, how anybody thinks it’s remotely worthwhile, other than as a cautionary tale blows my mind.

[@Jahiembrown803]

Tedros was playing checkers while Jocelyn played chess the whole time😭

[@brendahuie7684]

It was totally awful episode. Very disappointing ending

[@reqiuemformydreams]

Most underwhelming plot twist ever. Didn’t care enough about Jocelyn or Tedros to sympathize with them or even care what they were doing. So many useless characters that contributed absolutely nothing, which is sad because aside from the weekend imo there were some really goos actors present in this show.

[@gabrielleisbored]

I wasn't sure if I should watch this before watching the episode but I'm glad I did 😅 I won't loose my time. I can't belive it just ends like this.... the show was building up to nothing and it really was just p0-rn

[@sybill123ful]

it’s kinda bullshit everything worked out for jocylen. they should of let her fail, it would have made the ending of the show much better than making it seem like it all worked out in the end 🙄 what a genuinely terrible ending, this whole show was terrible. from the acting to the writing to the storyline, it was all terrible.

[@anastasiafong3289]

I really liked the show ! 😍🌸

[@101hamilton]

Good explanation! Great job!

[@Silverscreenfreak]

Thank you!😊

[@Lovelyuntamed]

I loved it.

[@MrModel--CAPTURED-ON-FILM]

In the end it was just an old boring story with a lot of glitter thrown all over it. I've wondered, what if the sexes were reversed? What if it were a male who says to the female as the final line in the series, "I own you." Don't think that would go over well.....

[@nunnaurbiznez8815]

I actually liked the show. The message is a good one. I wish the acting was better. I think exploring Tedros snapping after realising Joss is in charge and becoming the kidnapping psycho we were told he is and Joss laughing at him as she reveals she was waiting for him to kidnap and hurt her to end up killing him and then use that publicity to have a lifetime of sympathy and clout. I dont think they took it far enough. They set up a lot that didnt payoff and there was too much debauchery for no reason.

[@hexcrawler]

Season 2

[@Anon00113]

This show ended like a misogynist wrote it. “poor men,” and women are the real “villains”

[@hexcrawler]

You missed the plot. It’s about being careful with whom you idolize. No one in the industry can be trusted. No one.

[@andrewandah5971]

the fact that they had to shorten and cut out alot of scenes this season because of everyone complaining about the show is actually sad that is why it gave lackluster ,noone really gave this show a chance before it premiered , it was actually a very twisted interesting love story and insight on how Hollywood celebrities are treated and seen . its about power play , manipulation, exploitation, the industry food chain it really was very symbolic however you relate jocelyn to either Selena Brittney whoever this show was bird view into what women like them go through in the industry. sam levinson is a pervert for sure but you cannot deny that mans talent in story telling .i believe this could have just been a movie instead of a series , i hope we get a season 2

[@mamagne800]

Ok I want to clear things out to everybody that ,now that the series is over and the door is open to critics about Jennie as usual that Johnny Depp first movie was in Nightmare on Elm Street and he was killed by Freddie within 1 hour in the movie (before haters jump on me I'm not comparing the two Johnny Deep having an amazing career). so this is Jennie's very first appearance in a series/movie so what did you expect. If they give her too much screen time it would have shadowed Lily performance like it or not. That's the impact Jennie has and they know it. I'm happy for her. Did I wish to see her more? Of course but it is what it is. The series was a mess from the start and I think all actors or most of them were badly used thanks to Weeknd/Levinson duo.

[@kayleigh9516]

This show was sooo bad 😂 it’s wild

[@Celestinewarbeck]

Men don’t need to be allowed to write another script. Ever

[@markrichardson8793]

This is a horrible take. Men are responsible for some of the best movies/tv series ever, one bad show doesn't discount that.

[@anne-zh2kd]

​@@markrichardson8793It is what we call hyperbole. To make a point . To, in one single comment, describe all the problems with this show and its writers. I am autistic, and I got it.

[@Celestinewarbeck]

@@anne-zh2kd thank you so much

[@Oxcymoron]

I’m going to every review and explanation video I can find because I cannot comprehend what this show is. Was she pulling the strings the whole time? Did her mom actually abuse her? What was the point of canceling tedros if she still keeps him around? God I hate this show.

[@safestart6252]

you are not supposed to root for her at all she’s a villain and most ppl in the show are supposed to be, the premise is amazing could have been great if they made it add up in the slightest… there was no clues u could look back on that makes this narrative add up… in fact there’s contradictory information in the show. it’s like they wrote each episode without knowing what the next one would be about w no idea they were gonna make her the villain in the end like??? it could have been amazing

[@hexcrawler]

The opening shot during the photo shoot was the clue.

[@vatoloco1751]

Just give yourself 5 to 10 years then come back to it. Promise it'll all make sense

[@neilcvernon6957]

What did he do with the Hair brush to cause so much pain😮😅 ffs

[@Jahiembrown803]

It should’ve been a movie not a series

[@ivideszatigny4163]

To force...

[@mariaytinexposer]

78

[@toriyt2714]

It was stupid

[@neilcvernon6957]

Worst show in years..it would put you off The weeknd

[@knuffelmaus7175]

I didn't build a connection to any of the characters. The plot is so random. More as if they didn't see it as a whole, but more thinking-...which way could we take this episode? What a disapointment, just some really silly fetish, wanna be edgy show...

[@hexcrawler]

Or is it us who don’t see it as a whole? We were shown that Joss was an unreliable narrator from the very opening shot. Then we become sorry for her and forget that fact. The opening scene and the scene during concert rehearsal mirror each other in camera composition, editing, tone, context. The plot is simple. It’s the form of a question. Can anyone be trusted in the music industry? And the answer is no. And we especially shouldn’t trust those we “idolize”.

[@finns.1876]

It sucked tbh

[@patriciap1941]

OMG I liked The IDOL sooooo soooo much, it was one of the best series I ever watched!! I like the fact that you happended to hate Tedros, Dislike him and then feel sorry for him and in the end liking him :D And Joss turned out being a B*tch :D and they both end up with each other :D that blew my mind and I like that

[@jaspersroom1934]

what are your other picks for best series you've ever watched??

[@rachelviolet29]

are you ok

[@palakvijen]

Same question as @rachelvioletx

[@longstrangetrip9920]

You have to be 12 cause there’s no way

[@mynameistoosacredtoshareto7020]

Who paid you to write this