The Illegal Underground Line in Kensington

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Jago Hazzard

Jago Hazzard

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@brockett
@brockett 11 ай бұрын
In the Autumn and winter of 1964 as a Railway Operating Apprentice ( age 16) I was sent to work odd shifts as a "Box Boy" in Cromwell Road Signal Box. My job was to record District Line trains arriving and departing the four surface platforms at Earl's Court. Later in my career 1978 to 1981 I was a Station Inspector at Earl's Court. A marvellous place to work.
@archivek4
@archivek4 3 жыл бұрын
I don't live in London. I don't even live in UK (livin in Poland) but God I am addicted to every video about London Underground and railways. It makes me want to hop on a plane fly to London and just ride over London trains.
@mypointofview1111
@mypointofview1111 3 жыл бұрын
Having been to Poland, notably Krakow and Warsaw I've been impressed by the trains good and not so good. The high speed trains are brilliant, clean, very fast & affordable. Even being rescued after a storm when the electric connector was dislodged, by a passing local train in 40 minutes was impressive. In the UK it has been known for passengers to be stranded for hours. However, not having rail staff on each platform to ask if you're on the correct platform for your intended destination is a minus point as is a lack of communication. Other than that Poland is a beautiful country and I'll certainly visit again once the madness is over
@emjayay
@emjayay 3 жыл бұрын
@@mypointofview1111 COVID, or the homophobic and probably racist right wing politics?
@archivek4
@archivek4 3 жыл бұрын
@@mypointofview1111 rail service in Poland improved a lot in last 10 years. Also safety has improved (mostly after 2012 Szczekociny Rail Disaster). The government is now planning to build big network of high speed rail (if 250kph can be called high speed) in the whole country. But some regions lack passenger rail. The biggest train station in Poland Warszawa Zachodnia (Warsaw West) is under big renovation. Warsaw Metro is also rapidly expanding, last parts of the M2 line will opend before 2025 and soon the M3 line will start construction.
@archivek4
@archivek4 3 жыл бұрын
I can talk a lot about rail transportation in Poland
@2H80vids
@2H80vids 3 жыл бұрын
@@archivek4 I've read a bit about the Szczekociny Rail Disaster and, although most of what I've seen was uninformed press coverage, it seems to have been mostly human error and rather slack interpretation of the rulebook, not by just one person. Whatever the causes, the terrible outcome will, hopefully, have led to improvements in safety. Its sad that this is so often the case.
@whengarble
@whengarble 3 жыл бұрын
One of the reasons I enjoy this channel so much is that I live in a part of America with very little public transportation. It is cool to see it and the availability of public transportation almost makes me want to move to Europe on its own.
@mypointofview1111
@mypointofview1111 3 жыл бұрын
Lobby your representative to increase your town's connectivity to other areas
@emjayay
@emjayay 3 жыл бұрын
A lot of the US was built up after it was assumed everyone had a car so it's far less dense. It takes a certain density (including nowhere to park, or expensive parking, gridlock etc.) to make public transit make financial sense. Subways are expensive to build and run and require the most density. Cities in the US like Chicago, New York, Philadelphia and Boston have extensive subway systems.
@29brendus
@29brendus 3 жыл бұрын
Be careful what you wish for.
@byronm6225
@byronm6225 3 жыл бұрын
don't romaniticise the UK or Europe mate.
@memyself1566
@memyself1566 3 жыл бұрын
@@byronm6225 At least we have culture - although now fading fairly quickly, year after year.
@peternottingham6067
@peternottingham6067 3 жыл бұрын
i use gloucester road tube station all the time when i stay in kensington. i was there just yesterday. then guest what? new jago video turns up about the station. love the history, appreciate the station all the more now. thanks.
@TheFrogfather1
@TheFrogfather1 3 жыл бұрын
Same here - I was down in August and ended up with aching legs because Gloucester Road doesn't have escalators and I'm too impatient to wait for the lifts. 87 steps - how many floors is that now?
@SheeplessNW6
@SheeplessNW6 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheFrogfather1 that'll be 15 floors, of course
@chrispoupart2171
@chrispoupart2171 2 жыл бұрын
In the 1960s I worked for a tobacconist called J Leons. My shop was attached to Gloucester Road tube station. We had a side entrance into the station where there was a W H Smith shop. I have fond memories of the area. Thanks for this video.
@Jerrymouse79
@Jerrymouse79 2 жыл бұрын
I travelled through South Kensington today on my way to and from the tennis in Wimbledon. I saw this old platform and I was going to ask you if you could explain the reason it’s there. I’m glad I scrolled through your back catalogue first. Thanks Mr Hazzard sir!
@TheBritFromOz008
@TheBritFromOz008 2 жыл бұрын
I heard tell from a certain other KZbinr that the line north of High Street Kensington was also going to be duplicated, but it only got as far as the bay platforms 3 & 4 at HSK before the plan was brought to a permanent halt. For ages I've wondered what the point of duplicating those lines was meant to be... and now I know. Greeting from Australia; as a big fan of the British railway system including the Underground I've found your videos to be the perfect blend of entertaining and informative.
@PlanetoftheDeaf
@PlanetoftheDeaf 3 жыл бұрын
Genuinely didn't know about that curve, cheers! I can't blame the Underground or whoever for closing it and selling off the site, as it did seem pretty pointless and even now would serve little function. Those bay platforms at High St Kensington are useful for terminating District Line trains, whether the Olympia shuttles or any other service stopped short due to problems or planned engineering works.
@amanvir100
@amanvir100 3 жыл бұрын
Really happy to see some maps and some interesting images of the station signage in this episode - makes the whole story much easier to follow! thank you.
@pixoontube2912
@pixoontube2912 3 жыл бұрын
Geoff Marshall at HSK: I've never arrived on Platform 4 before..."
@jtsholtod.79
@jtsholtod.79 3 жыл бұрын
Did you just have a nerd-gasm? (I know he both did and didn't want that written in the comments).
@bobblue_west
@bobblue_west 3 жыл бұрын
I recall that. On weekend that's pretty normal. The shuttle to/from Olympia uses Platform 4 at HSK. Sometimes the Wimbledon service at w/ends stops short. (R we nerds or what?)
@davidjosephnolan
@davidjosephnolan 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto, I'm in New Zealand
@norbertnedsworth7172
@norbertnedsworth7172 8 ай бұрын
Chortle, snort, guffaw. Raus, raus!
@Peasmouldia
@Peasmouldia 3 жыл бұрын
I've often wondered how these lines decided at their loading gauges. The down side of being at the forefront of railways is that we have very restricted loading gauges on most of our lines. Of course, having a major conurbation in the way of your prospective line, with all its obstructions doesn't help. I have a US friend who couldn't believe our stock was standard gauge. "Your trains look like narrow gauge" was his verdict on seeing a Metropolitan A stock unit. He hadn't even seen a Central line unit at that point... Ta.
@richiehoyt8487
@richiehoyt8487 3 жыл бұрын
"You call that a train, boy?! Why, back in Texas we got trains so big that..."
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 3 жыл бұрын
You ought to have taken him to Didcot and shown him what Brunel's "standard gauge" looked like.
@davidford85
@davidford85 3 жыл бұрын
Usually the deciding factor was money. The bigger the loading gauge the more everything cost. So naturally the railway companies chose loading gauges that just about met their needs (or their funds). Trouble is once the lines were built, it was usually prohibitively expensive to widen the loading gauge, since not only would the work cost huge amounts, but the lines themselves would at best be disrupted and at worst closed for the duration of the work. This is especially true of tunnels (rather fitting since we're talking about the underground here). Tunnels were costly (both in terms of money and lives), time consuming and often complicated, so they were usually built as small as possible. Unfortunately once dug, it's even more costly to then expand them, requiring not only more tunneling work, but usually also the closure of the line itself. Sometimes it was actually easier and cheaper to dig a new tunnel rather than expand the original (yes Woodhead Tunnels, I am looking at you 😂)
@Peasmouldia
@Peasmouldia 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidford85 I.K.B. was well ahead on that. I live near box tunnel..Loading gauge that would shame the Union Pacific.. You're dead right though. Ta.
@Peasmouldia
@Peasmouldia 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnm2012 It's funny you should mention that..It's just up the road from me, and he now lives in Bradford on Avon.
@montedaestrada3563
@montedaestrada3563 3 жыл бұрын
As someone born in the South West London suburbs the London Underground (and surface rail extensions of the 30s) story has always fascinated me. Thanks for the further insights.
@philipjdrake3737
@philipjdrake3737 3 жыл бұрын
Keep them coming, love to hear stories about the tube.
@jennyd255
@jennyd255 3 жыл бұрын
That's fascinating - for nearly ten years of my life in the 1960's I must have lived almost right on top of the Cromwell curve, not to mention frequently flying departing from the West London air terminal, yet I never knew that track was even there.
@camerastooge
@camerastooge 3 жыл бұрын
Wait... the FIRST illegal underground line? There's more? Sounds like some more videos are needed!
@mypointofview1111
@mypointofview1111 3 жыл бұрын
As Jago said, there was broad parliamentary agreement for the railways to be built, just permission for that section hadn't been granted at the time of construction. It's like building an extension to your house without planning permission, even though its within permitted planning rules.
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 3 жыл бұрын
@@mypointofview1111 Except that in this case it seems that section had been specifically removed from the Act - so it's more like building your extension when planning permission has been refused. Hence why it took 30 years to sort it rather than getting it retrospectively granted in a few months.
@edandrew7842
@edandrew7842 3 жыл бұрын
Would these be underground Underground lines?
@collincovid6950
@collincovid6950 3 жыл бұрын
@@iankemp1131 Idiots do not appreciate the value of money and so just carry on regardless
@markmartindale7215
@markmartindale7215 2 жыл бұрын
@@collincovid6950 Money has value?!
@robertmurray1157
@robertmurray1157 3 жыл бұрын
My grandmother always used to refer to the circle line as 'the inner circle'. Now I understand.
@groovydonkey
@groovydonkey 3 жыл бұрын
I find all your videos about the tube totally fascinating and find myself looking at all the little bits of hidden gems you mention. I worked for what was then, London Underground and the history and all that is hidden away so unique. Thank you for all the history, videos and information you know.
@markharris1223
@markharris1223 3 жыл бұрын
It is a pleasure to listen to this gentleman.
@julianellis8200
@julianellis8200 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is wonderful how all the old signage has been retained across most of the underground
@Ostermond
@Ostermond 3 жыл бұрын
AYY! FINALLY! An episode about Gloucester Road! My family once house-sat for a family member at a loft right by this station!
@alexandercuthell2820
@alexandercuthell2820 3 жыл бұрын
I was at South Kensington Station last week on a trip down to London and saw the spare platforms , I did wonder why they were disused so thanks for reading my mind and giving the answer!
@AFCManUk
@AFCManUk 3 жыл бұрын
Never really noticed it before, but Gloucester Road is definitely one of, if not the best looking stations on the whole Underground. Quite aesthetically pleasing!
@1258-Eckhart
@1258-Eckhart 3 жыл бұрын
Totally agree, when you're standing there it has the coolest vibe of all London stations (though some others come close).
@johnm2012
@johnm2012 3 жыл бұрын
I seem to remember it being more open to the outside thirty or so years ago, like South Kensington still is. It must have been built over at some point. The platform lighting is nicely done.
@capitalb5889
@capitalb5889 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnm2012 me too - I think until about 1990 it was open air. But it was never as impressive as South Kensington - it felt more utilitarian. But the covering actually was done very sensitively.
@Andrea-sg7qp
@Andrea-sg7qp 3 жыл бұрын
When I lived in London in 2008 my family would stay at a hotel across from Gloucester Road Station and I'd always meet them there for breakfast. I think the Waitrose in this video is where we used to buy chocolate croissants every morning. It looks exactly like I remember it but at the time one of the disused station platforms had a massive wooden panda head on it which I always found odd but interesting. I've long since moved back to Canada but I love seeing so much of London through you videos, I really need to get back there one day.
@asciisynth
@asciisynth 3 жыл бұрын
2 main types of people have arch enemies. Superheroes and 19th century railway developers.
@C2K777
@C2K777 3 жыл бұрын
The snow at South Kensington ( 05:30 ) on 1st Sept is slightly worrying. I guess summer is finished if the weathers taken that much of a turn already
@luxford60
@luxford60 3 жыл бұрын
Not mentioned, but clear in the footage, is that the Piccadilly Line originally had an entirely seoarate station next door to the District/Met one.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 жыл бұрын
Finished in OxBlood Red similar to the Met's Red (except the map of the time had them in Green), Designed by Leslie Green which is the current colour of the District. My Head Aches
@pablozewoppa
@pablozewoppa 3 жыл бұрын
This whole District and Metropolitan Lines feud, it's beginning to obsess me.
@donkeysaurusrex7881
@donkeysaurusrex7881 3 жыл бұрын
Careful. That path leads only to madness.
@smcdonald9991
@smcdonald9991 3 жыл бұрын
Are we expected to take sides?
@david-stewart
@david-stewart 3 жыл бұрын
Up the District
@pablozewoppa
@pablozewoppa 3 жыл бұрын
@@david-stewart The District Line is my line. I've used it for years from Chiswick Park. To Ealing Broadway for a drink at the North Star with my friends Rishi and Jyoti. But mostly east-bound to work in Tower Hill and/or Aldgate East. Strange how a line (a tube line!) becomes part of your life...
@silentnight1805
@silentnight1805 3 жыл бұрын
@@pablozewoppa Intense love-hate relationship between me and the northern line. Only consistent thing in my life since birth lol.
@mumu8042
@mumu8042 3 жыл бұрын
I now travel around London noticing the train stations and old buildings thanks to Jago ❤️👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 for example we drove by the closed Highbury Station opposite Highbury and Islington station 🤓
@davidbarry7538
@davidbarry7538 3 жыл бұрын
I worked at Gloucester road in the ticket office until the ticket office closed in 2015, always enjoyed working at this wonderful station. Nice to see a factual and informative video of the station.
@pauldwyer4430
@pauldwyer4430 Жыл бұрын
You’ve just answered my long running question why South Kensington has a disused platform more visible now on the Eastbound side, although wide of the Westbound with no platform. Really fascinating story of rivalries between different railway companies.
@patricialockhart2135
@patricialockhart2135 3 жыл бұрын
That was very interesting. I've just come back from a trip down to London and was based on Kensington High Street. I found it interesting that two lines, the Circle and district run on the same tracks. In fact I was on a district line train when an announcement came on saying that it was no a circle line train terminating at Edgeware Road. BTW, the stations especially Kensington High Street are beautiful.
@unclenogbad1509
@unclenogbad1509 3 жыл бұрын
"Everything should be great, with no drawbacks." How many times have I heard that before?
@jamesbutler6253
@jamesbutler6253 2 жыл бұрын
Gloucester Road was my primary school station in the 1960s, and back then the Circle Line trains (O and P stock) from High Street Kensington would come in on the left hand track/platform and the District Line trains from Earls Court would come in on the right hand track/platform but that stopped a few years later. Then the extra track was removed and then the final measure was that a new platform was built over it when G Road was rebuilt in the 90s.
@BrianSeaman
@BrianSeaman 3 жыл бұрын
Jago takes a mundane tube journey into hyperspace and beyond, throwing in the odd curve.
@alansmith1770
@alansmith1770 Жыл бұрын
I find your videos really informative & really interesting. Keep up the good work Jago.
@joannaatkinson235
@joannaatkinson235 3 жыл бұрын
Ah, still early enough for the tales to be piping hot! Good fayre as always!
@jp-i
@jp-i 3 жыл бұрын
Fresh Jago! No finer start to a Wednesday evening.... Now I better stop commenting and watch the thing!
@jp-i
@jp-i 3 жыл бұрын
UPDATE: And a damn fine watch it is!
@zorktxandnand3774
@zorktxandnand3774 3 жыл бұрын
0.27 That Metropolitan Railway logo is something else! A shield on velvet / fur curtain thing, with a chained duck, a deer, 3 swords and a cracked tile under a fist holding lightning. What is going on here??? why is the duck (or goose?) chained? what does the Deer mean, why the swords, is one not enough? Latin banner? Why is the tile cracked? is that important?
@tombaxter6228
@tombaxter6228 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that the original design was to be two dead, crossed District Railway chairmen, superimposed on a mound of dead, District Railway chairmen...
@zorktxandnand3774
@zorktxandnand3774 3 жыл бұрын
@@tombaxter6228 It is a tough choice to make :)
@stevevasta
@stevevasta 3 жыл бұрын
Delighted by the brief view of High St Kensington--the street itself, not just the station. Thirty years ago, we stayed at what was then the Kensington Close Hotel on Wrights Lane: the street and station were our starting point almost every day.
@supernick345
@supernick345 3 жыл бұрын
5:32 - Seems South Kensington has a bit of a strange microclimate for September! I kid of course, interesting video as always
@ddewittfulton
@ddewittfulton 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@chrislodzinski9056
@chrislodzinski9056 3 жыл бұрын
In 1966 when I started using South Ken, to go to school, it still had 4 tracks, and I think that eastbound trains used two platforms, and all westbound trains were using the platform that they use at present.then by about 1968 they were using the two existing platforms, because they needed room to install escalators for the Piccadilly line. If you are catching a westbound Piccadilly line train, and you actually follow the signs, at the bottom of the steps to access the platform, then you are walking around the old lift shaft. They were quite large lifts, much bigger than any you see in use today.
@scootergrant8683
@scootergrant8683 3 жыл бұрын
Well wouldn't you know. Do you remember where you'd go in South Ken station to the extra District and Metropolitan platforms? I'd been wondering this for years given that South Ken was one station I was at often. I also had a look on Wikipedia and someone has provided a nice graphic showing the original layout and there was a line bisecting what is now the main platform. Makes me wonder where the original stairs went or if they just took the two either side and joined them after filling in the middle of the platform. Gosh Kensington has a lot of fun quirks I wish were still in use.
@spacestation52
@spacestation52 2 жыл бұрын
I too remember using Gloucester Road in the 60s and there were definitely four platforms. Going westwards to Earl’s Court wasn’t an issue as the lines split after leaving Gloucester Road. But to go to Victoria you could chose to wait at the top of the stairs to see whether a District or Circle line came in first and then run down the stairs to catch it. Madness, really. It was open-air in those days.
@Tube-Shots
@Tube-Shots 2 жыл бұрын
I love the shots of the stations lot of work gone into these videos
@anshulaich6026
@anshulaich6026 3 жыл бұрын
South Kensington is such a cool station. Not only is it a joint district and metropolitan line station, but it also has a completely separate Leslie Green station building for the picadilly line, right next to the metropolitan & district one.
@pontyexpat
@pontyexpat 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating! I once lived in west London, traipsing all over town by tube, bus and foot, totally unaware of the rivalry that once took place beneath my feet. Thank you for the enlightenment 🚉
@bethenecampbell6463
@bethenecampbell6463 3 жыл бұрын
When I'm in London I stay very near Gloucester Road. It's great having some insider knowledge now. Thanks for this.
@PeacefulSlumber
@PeacefulSlumber 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure what I love most... The tube, or your videos on it. Thank you ,🥰
@thomaswilson3437
@thomaswilson3437 3 жыл бұрын
That colorful mosaic station at Gloucester Road is my computer wall paper from a picture I took when in London a couple years ago!
@antonydicesare4632
@antonydicesare4632 3 жыл бұрын
Marvellous, another wonderful jago production.
@Biosed
@Biosed 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@boohaka
@boohaka 3 жыл бұрын
Wow! In all the time I stood on those platforms I never once wondered why they were disused! I now know something I never knew I didn’t know! Thanks!😊
@martinhall60
@martinhall60 3 жыл бұрын
Just brilliantly directed and very informative as always, well done again.
@MattMcIrvin
@MattMcIrvin 2 жыл бұрын
The hotel where we stayed on our recent visit to London was across the street from here--I bought a lot of necessities from that Sainsbury's over the curve. Had no idea the location was key to that weird long-running Underground feud.
@ZonkerRoberts
@ZonkerRoberts 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this! Gloucester Road is one of my favorite tube stations because of the double surface buildings (even though the Leslie Green one isn't used for station access today).
@Del-bm
@Del-bm Жыл бұрын
That was a pleasure to watch and very informative, thanks for sharing with us
@erikthenorviking8251
@erikthenorviking8251 3 жыл бұрын
Extreme naughtiness indeed !! I think District, Circle and Metropolitan are my favourite lines. Keep up the excellent work !
@el_es
@el_es 3 жыл бұрын
the pun of having 'arches' in picture and talking of 'arch enemies' is not lost o.O :)
@wickiezulu
@wickiezulu 3 ай бұрын
Did wonder if there were any plans for the District line tracks at High Street Kensington to travel further north to Notting Hill Gate and beyond, possibly either merging with the existing tracks before Paddington or diverging onto another route somewhere north / northwest after Notting Hill Gate.
@RogersRamblings
@RogersRamblings 2 жыл бұрын
On a slightly pedantic note (as if), the former air terminal and the supermarket are built on a raft above the railway. At railway level are sidings for overnight storage. Since they're within the former triangle they're known as Triangle Sidings.
@seeitsayitdoggo5398
@seeitsayitdoggo5398 3 жыл бұрын
Interestingly this little argument has a legacy that actually lives on to this day. According to an FOI, the line between Notting Hill and South Ken is operated by the District line controller. However, the stations are run by the Hammersmith and City controller for circle line reasons, despite the district being the main serving line at that station.
@stephenpegum9776
@stephenpegum9776 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who's lived in London for some 45 years, I've travelled through Gloucester Road station many, many times but have never needed to get on or off there, so had no idea about the lovely above-ground architecture. I'll definitely remedy that the next time I'm in that area ! 😎
@RSCOZZY
@RSCOZZY 3 жыл бұрын
Your videos have the longest adverts of all the content I watch.
@Jim-Scott
@Jim-Scott 3 жыл бұрын
If you head out of the station, turn left towards Sainsburys, there's a brick wall just before the supermarket car park exit, which if you jump up you can see the bend and junctions of the lines below exposed to the elements. There's a little section there that never got covered. At one end of that wall is an unassuming, much graffitied, red door, leading to a precipitous iron staircase going down to the tracks. I carried many bottles of oxygen and propane up and down those stairs 15+ years ago when that track junction was replaced and I was cutting out and welding in new 3rd and 4th rails. The station manager wouldn't let us take the easier route through the station with gas bottles!
@EternalSushiMusic
@EternalSushiMusic 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, I lived 1 minute away from that Saintsburys and I never knew! That's awesome!
@michaelmiller641
@michaelmiller641 3 жыл бұрын
There are photos of different tube stock photographed on the Cromwell curve, the pre- 1938 stock, and the 1920 Piccadilly stock trailers and control trailers with converted gate stock, the first air door stock
@GerardScroogeGoes
@GerardScroogeGoes 3 жыл бұрын
thx Jago, Seems that I'm connected to this station. My first school trip in 1979 brought me there. It was an open air station then. I've been returning there intermittingly. And even stayed a year in the Forum next door. Alway wondered about the Cromwell curve. It clearly didn't fit. So after 42 years finally the aswer why.
@danielpayne500
@danielpayne500 3 жыл бұрын
it is interesting as well when i grew up round the Corner from there at lexham gardens as well
@nytracus9680
@nytracus9680 2 жыл бұрын
always wandered about those extra platforms at high st Kensington 👍
@SBEARD12345
@SBEARD12345 3 жыл бұрын
Fact for you, underneath that block of flats and Sainsbury's is a sidings used by Circle and District. Circle on one side of the main track district on the other. Great video...
@aliendon73
@aliendon73 3 жыл бұрын
Point of interest for you. There are also sidings directly underneath the Sainsburys, right between the main line and the Cromwell Curve. It's known as the triangle sidings. Great video as always Jago.
@LeedsInAHat
@LeedsInAHat 3 жыл бұрын
In the before times, I’d go down to London once, twice or three times a year, and always visit Waitrose and the NHM. Always interesting to see what art was on show on the disused platform. I miss Glo Road and Great Portland Street, my accommodation stations!
@ianhelps3749
@ianhelps3749 3 жыл бұрын
I remember passing the air terminal on the Cromwell Road a few times. Then one day it was gone. It must have an interesting story.
@michaeldwyer3352
@michaeldwyer3352 3 жыл бұрын
The Cromwell Road terminal was essentially the counterpart, for European destinations, of the BOAC Air terminal in Buckingham Palace Road (opposite Victoria Coach Station) which served the longer intercontinental routes. Before LHR was connected direct to the Underground in 1976 passengers normally checked in at the central air terminals and were then ferried gratis to the airport by the various airlines on their shuttle buses.
@comicus01
@comicus01 3 жыл бұрын
On my first visit to London I stayed for a week at a hotel across the street from the Gloucester Road station! Nice neighborhood.
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 жыл бұрын
Geoff needs a race off High St Ken to South Ken by pavement or circle line. The circle line being at best intermittant - though more reliable than it used to be.
@islayidiots713
@islayidiots713 3 жыл бұрын
Love these videos, keep up the great work Jago!
@hypercomms2001
@hypercomms2001 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I have wondered why there was an abandoned platform at South Kensington station. Now I know.
@capitalb5889
@capitalb5889 3 жыл бұрын
Now I understand the layout at Gloucester Rd station! I remember the station back in the 1980s to early 90s when it was still open air, like a budget South Kensington. Once it was covered up it took on the wonderfully spooky look it has today.
@DarqeDestroyer
@DarqeDestroyer 3 жыл бұрын
The brown building behind Sainsbury's at 5:00 looks suspiciously like the building at 4:50 with a new exterior. Both of them are roughly cube shaped with the upper stories stepped in a bit.
@Drawyah
@Drawyah 3 жыл бұрын
2:58 - A-Stock? Some old stock footage in use here! Miss those old trains...
@AtheistOrphan
@AtheistOrphan 3 жыл бұрын
No. That’s the Acton Depot of the London Transport Museum.
@FrangoTV1
@FrangoTV1 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for enlightening me about the 2 bay platforms at High St. Ken. Having noticed them some 45 years ago, I now know the real reason for their existence! 👍
@ernestparker3648
@ernestparker3648 3 жыл бұрын
As an old retired circle driver, we loved the tunnel e/b between Gloucester Road and South Ken as it was so wide if we were bursting it was ideal for a quick pee. Honest not joking.
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 3 жыл бұрын
When a man's gotta go ...
@unclenogbad1509
@unclenogbad1509 3 жыл бұрын
So THAT'S why trains frequently used to stop in that tunnel. I'd assumed it was just traffic into Earl's Court. (NB, as a postie, we also have to find novel places - if I've left your parcel in the garden when you're out, I may have discretely improved the soil as well).
@adamhenley8295
@adamhenley8295 3 жыл бұрын
Wow - I used to shop at that Sainsbury’s in the 80s when living on Cromwell Rd and had no idea at the time and I don’t think it was recorded anywhere there
@stretch9952
@stretch9952 3 жыл бұрын
Love the Metropolitan Railway building, a handsome little urban block.
@jayja45
@jayja45 3 жыл бұрын
I think Gloucester Road may have the shortest distance between the train and the entrance to Waitrose, I’ve used the station many times for just that purpose.
@cypher50
@cypher50 3 жыл бұрын
Jago, you should collaborate with Don Coffey on a few cab rides through the London Underground. Would like to see you do the history subtitles for a video like that....
@meandwhoism
@meandwhoism 3 жыл бұрын
Sublime idea, pointing at small and specific things even enthusiasts wouldn't know about. Like a wall or signalbox it something like that
@tangomoggynoengi8518
@tangomoggynoengi8518 3 жыл бұрын
Would that be a Coffey Hazzard...or a Hazzardous Coffey...???
@gfuentes8449
@gfuentes8449 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video as always
@trevaluvelle
@trevaluvelle 3 жыл бұрын
Love it when your around my area...
@AllensTrains
@AllensTrains 3 жыл бұрын
I always wondered why there were those unused platforms. Now I know! Thanks for uploading.
@saqibmulla2811
@saqibmulla2811 2 жыл бұрын
I used to graffiti between Gloucester Road and earls ct in train sidings underneath roughly where Sainsbury’s is now lol
@highpath4776
@highpath4776 3 жыл бұрын
Was looking for this all day yesterday, this bank holiday has really thrown me.
@meandwhoism
@meandwhoism 3 жыл бұрын
I vaguely remember Geoff Marshall inquiring a question about the mentioned bay platform at the end of the video, well now we know why huh?
@stevesalvage1089
@stevesalvage1089 3 жыл бұрын
Well I never ! Thankyou jago all cleared up now
@timsully8958
@timsully8958 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Had no idea that this was why South Ken had 4 platforms originally! I suppose it turned out to be a useful thing for Gloucester Road in the end though as it meant you now have separate platforms for westbound District and northbound Circle trains 🤔 And I suppose you can say the same for the Olympia shuttles (though I have actually no idea whether they still run those! 🤷🏻‍♂️). Cheers as ever 👍🍻🍀
@johnanthonylucock7833
@johnanthonylucock7833 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating presentation
@stephenholt4670
@stephenholt4670 3 жыл бұрын
I'm slightly confused about "these houses follow the course of the curve" at 5:00. Looking on Google maps, it seems like those houses, on Lexham Gardens, are following the line of the west to north curve, which is still in use on the District line between Earl's Court and High Street Kensington, rather than the Cromwell curve. It looks to me as if Sainsbury's and the flats occupy the entire line of the curve, with any remnants now buried underground.
@roberthuron9160
@roberthuron9160 3 жыл бұрын
A New York Elevated Oddball history! There was a time when you could board an El train at the Battery,and have a through trip to-- (would you believe) Boston,because the El lines connected with the New Haven Railroad at East 180th Street,and as with the BRT connections,trains and cars could,would and did go far afield! I apologize for the dearth of information,but I'm working off of pure memory,and I have no access to my library,and so far as the time of this adventurous rambles,it was in the 1880's,or 90's,and I believe it was either on the 2nd or 3rd Avenue Elevated! Anyone who has better information,I'd be glad for the fill ins,and updating 🙄! Thank you Jago,as usual a most interesting story, and definitely a circular reasoning of Underground politics! 🚇! Had to get a pun in,somehow! Thank you for your time and effort 👍🙏😊🙌👏🙂👍🙏😊🙌👏🙂👍
@alexandrosjones
@alexandrosjones 3 жыл бұрын
so weird seeing my local tube station, as well as my local sainsbury's on youtube on my recommended!
@mehegama
@mehegama 3 жыл бұрын
I ve always wondered why there is the unused platform on the other side, on the eastbound platform. Great info
@romainthblt
@romainthblt 3 жыл бұрын
06:15 when Jack hopes he can have a spot on the floating door
@Hammondfreak
@Hammondfreak 3 жыл бұрын
It is amazing how ego, obstinacy and pride had so much influence on the London Underground.
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