The iPad Pro Has A Problem

[@joshunboxing3332]

It's funny's how the original iPad pro is now unsupported but yet the pro capabilities were were never unlocked

[@MountaintopKitchen]

Maybe that will be unveiled at the WWDC.

[@japkoslav]

It's even more funny when you realize it has been 9 years sice this "Pro" product was relased.

[@davidhawkeye2298]

I think you hit the nail squarely on the head. I agree that using IPad for anything other than light application is not sustainable. It’s MacBook Pro every time. Especially where precision and complexity are concerned. iPad is not intuitive, it’s not easy to navigate nor pleasurable to use for most things that you might do on a laptop. It won’t replace MacBook and maybe, as you say that’s intentional by design. It’s a road that will never lead to Rome.

[@p5rsona]

@@MountaintopKitchen i thought that would be the case with m1 but nope.

[@onth3hous3]

It’s called getting with the times 🤷🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@aliposhtkooh9786]

I almost completely disagree with you. I am a student with tons of books on my iPad and I occasionally write or edit articles and research papers. I wanna take notes on slides or PDFs or books? It does an excellent job at that! I wanna type and write a paper? It does it perfectly. I wanna see or investigate medical pictures or sequences like CT scans or MRIs? Does the job avsolutely flawlessly with the perfect screen and contrast. Connect a portable USG to it? Say no more. Portability? Yes! Quality? Yes! I can have a web page open next to my keynote or pages window and type as I read. It is a perfect powerful tablet, with “SOME” of the productivity features of macbook that I need. I don’t want a macbook to type because it consists of like what, 20-30 percent of my productivity! It is the perfect middle ground for typing/note taking purposes.

[@rhite139]

SOOOO totally agree with this; I would upgrade to the M4, but my M2 is already too powerful. Apple really should listen to this message.

[@coralreef909]

What message? Buy a MacBook as well ?

[@coralreef909]

@@Coldgecko so you‘ve put the M4 through it’s paces and drawn that conclusion?

[@Fr4nc3sc0_Br0]

I like the take SnazzyLab had. It doesn’t need MacOS, just a better iPad OS if you want to call it “Pro”. Better file management, better multitasking, better external monitor management. It would be very good for everyone, even professional that are not creator but need some flexibility

[@germantrainspotting6609]

And the possibility to run mac apps and games.

[@JohnChildressURock]

Only 2021 have we had a desktop class processor

[@minddrug709]

Perfectly put

[@PWingert1966]

A rumour is circulating that major changes to iPad OS will debut at WWDC in a few days. It would have been better to skip making this video and wait until we see what is happening with iPad OS at WWDC before making the video. This video seems like dogpiling for clicks just before everything gets better.

[@fireflame608]

​@@PWingert1966 Who knows at this point I've been waiting since 2016 and everytime they release an ipad before wwdc and everyone says the same thing and then it doesn't happen. Files for example is the absolute worst file manager ever, screw pro workflows i can't even format a drive or eject things without them corrupting themselves and needing to repair it with a Mac. Don't get me started with logic pro. the photo editing apps are miles better than the music stuff on ipad for sure.

[@chidorirasenganz]

The problem with the iPad is that Mac youtubers keep reviewing it as a Mac when it's not a Mac 🙃 Half the time they don't even know how to use the features they're criticizing

[@southwestkinema9149]

Nailed it.

[@esisolina]

I'm extremely happy with my iPad Pro 11" M4, what you said here is 100% correct :)

[@Lukestar46]

It is 100% correct BUT also not completely fair imo. Apple itself markets and advertises it as computer replacement (ref. “What’s a computer ad”- 2017) and even more now (Infamous “Crush!” Ad). So I think it is fair for reviewers to test their claim.

[@michaelhall9146]

DailyTekk is the exception. He’s the only person who knows how to take advantage of the features.

[@andreasoberg2021]

I agree man. I found it a bit annoying. If you need a laptop get either a mac laptop or a pc laptop. Myself I mix and match Pc workstations pc laptops mac laptops ipads. They all offer unique benefits

[@JoveroIV]

Your take on putting macOS on iPad was spot on. You basically admitted the device wasn’t for you and that’s really respectable. I also agree they need to clean up the OS without totally getting rid of it.

[@RichWithTech]

“It’snOtForuBrO” True, but if it was good, it would be for everyone like most other Apple products

[@JoveroIV]

@@RichWithTech possibly. I think anyone could appreciate it but pros get the most bang for their buck. The value proposition for normal (mostly non artist) people isn’t very good.

[@therealrickytan]

@@JoveroIV bingo. the iPad is really, truly truly truly, for the artists out there who utilize the pencil everyday. They are the ones benefiting from the iPad, especially the latest rendition with the massive screen and pencil update. but if Apple were to only focus on that audience, it would just be a $3,000 iCanvas and they'd only sell like 12 iPads a year. They have to add bells and whistles to sell it to the rest of the the population.

[@supercellex4D]

Keep the iPadOS UI and make it open enough that if I damn well wanted to I could install Linux on it. macOS but Windows 8 basically. Microsoft was right, they were just wrong about why.

[@JoveroIV]

@@supercellex4D As someone who sold my old iPad to buy a Surface RT running Windows 8.0 when it came out…I can confidently say that I disagree with you about this. Openness and complex operating systems aren’t why I would want to get out a tablet. I want to get it out to play a game, write a note, or watch a movie. That’s just my personal feelings as a base iPad user though. I acknowledge that there are people who purchase these very expensive devices wanting them to do more. I think that is Apple’s fault for pretending they can do everything and only finding out they can’t once you have it out of the box and start playing around with it.

[@lukemiani]

This is the BEST iPad Pro review, I bet it only took you one quick take and not 4 days to film this!

[@bdk88]

take notes my guy

[@michaelcobbin]

Sam’s argument has a significant flaw: “Who stores files locally on a device nowadays”? Basically, no one. Why? The following reasons: 1. People connect to their files from multiple devices. 2. The cloud provides more storage than you can get on a device. 3. Backup - backup of the cloud files is more frequent than what can done with a device. 4. It is easier to upgrade or switch to another device. 5. People are now used to saving files to the local device. I only use the file manager on the iPad to temporarily store files. All my files are stored in either OneDrive, Google Drive or iCloud. The “Files” app on the iPad allows me to see all files across all three cloud storage locations from one app. It seems that the “Files” app was built to integrate flawlessly with these cloud storage accounts.

[@DeannaAllison]

@@michaelcobbin “Who stores files locally on a device nowadays”? Basically, I do. I store the files I need to access locally on my device, for example work files, even if they are backed up in the cloud. Otherwise I‘m going to have real problems when the cloud is not accessible. It happens sometimes.

[@michaelcobbin]

@@DeannaAllison I assume you only store the files you are working on on the iPad. I will also assume that your principal repository of files is in the cloud. Are both these assumptions correct? Nowadays, most corporate Windows laptops store their files in OneDrive and don’t get stored locally on the hard drive. Less than 5% of users store files on the iPad. I would say it’s around 2% of iPad users. The Pro and tech users use the cloud accounts as their primary repository for files. The iPad content viewer users don’t use the iPad file management system.

[@DeannaAllison]

@@michaelcobbin I decided to completely stop using iPads because I can't stand the operating system, including the poor file management. I now use only Macs with current work files, stored on Mac, backed up in the cloud as well as in duplicate on my local hard drives.

[@jrichardson6]

Try drawing with a pencil pro on your macbook …. its not aimed at mac users its a different machine for different users. The software is incredible the implementation is excellent and constantly innovating and improving software and hard ware.

[@mainsink6385]

I have the new 13 inch M4 iPad Pro with one terabyte and it’s the non-textured screen. I’m a digital illustrator. But I would love for the file systems work like it does on a Mac.

[@joselucnico]

I don’t really see a difference. Maybe some animations but it is the same thing. I am on mac since the Macintosh.

[@thesolver1970]

if they can fix the file app, improve stage manager, better integrate a few things and genarelly improve the bugs in the interface it would be very good. Its almost there though half baked. As an example to have 2 instances of Micsosoft Word open in stage manager at the same time on the one screen, you have to turn off stage manager, snap two instances together in the 'other' multitasking method, then go back to stage manager, resize the two instances and away you go. Apple is at a crossroads for 13 inch formfactor - add touch to Mac OS or replace the 13 inch Macbook with the iPad Pro. I think this may be why it has M4 and the OLED screen. Adding touch to Mac OS may be a stretch too far, noting that a lot of people I know want it on a Mac. Its the main reason I'm still wintel 2 in 1, with iPad pro when travelling light.

[@supme7558]

🤣

[@supme7558]

​@thesolver1970 almost ...its sold as fully functional

[@emericdarq3638]

Apple never wanted the iPad to replace your mac, they wanted to create a hybrid device that can transform to your needs. But if your needs consists to run desktop apps then you’re not the target of the iPad but of the mac. The iPad is a touch first interface and therefore cannot run macOS cause it wasn’t’t designed to be use with your fingers. The iPad is more than enough for the demographic target it’s aiming. Kids and parents who don’t have computers have the iPad. Students can write notes and artists like me can draw. The iPad is more perfect than ever

[@Blitterbug]

Good for you for keeping it real. As a hardened Apple critic I actually like it; authors appreciate the new keyboard which allows them to swap between desktop / mobile writing easily via the cloud. It's mainly multi-skill creative professionals like yourself that struggle, I think, as you can't port your muscle-memory for all the apps you need to use on a daily basis between the two platforms.

[@dovan4092]

Nailed it, I know a lot of people who have bought an iPad, I don't know anyone who's going to ever buy another and the OS, specifically dealing with files, is the reason they won't. It's useless to me and just sits there because it doesn't even come close to being as good as a MacBook when it comes to getting things done.

[@Athithan_2000]

It’s good for watching KZbin!😋✌🏼

[@southwestkinema9149]

@@Athithan_2000 If you are just a consumer definitely. If you are a creative it's the best device on the market by a mile!!!. That comment screams "I'm just a consumer that can't afford one!" 🥰

[@jaleelakram2232]

My experience I don't use laptops unless I am working. Most work I can do on my office laptop, but ipad works well when you want to enjoy content without having to worry about keyboard being in the way.

[@pieman192]

I went from a PC to a Samsung notebook and when the iPad came out that’s all I’ve ever used . I don’t want to sit on my sofa with a laptop on my knee . It all depends what you want out of it , I’m on my seventh iPad (M1 12.9 mini led) …..

[@DanRustle]

I’m buying one and iPadOS is just a made up problem by Apple rumor creators that need drama for clicks and views. Literally no one cares and what do they have to compare iPadOS to? Literally nothing. Stop falling for the manufactured drama

[@malfaro3l]

Great video, probably the best I’ve seen do far, but I couldn’t disagree more. My main complaint is that saying iPad OS isn’t doing the job because it feels “wonky” is pretty much the same as saying “it’s not what I’m used to”. I love iPad OS and it does literally everything I need. I use cloud based file systems and run a law practice from an iPad Pro. I’ve tried cases and it’s literally the most flexible device I have. I don’t think the iPad Pro is for everyone and that’s cool, but it is for some. There’s a reason that iPads are still the best selling tablets and the iPad Pro is the most expensive and most advanced of those tablets so its definitely not going to be for the masses, and that should be ok.

[@aalthukair]

you are a legend. know one takes about this for 14 years. I just use it as a browser.

[@jaredweiman2987]

Anybody that spent $3,000 on the Pro suite thinking that this was going to be different than last gen deserves to feel ripped off. They told you exactly what you would get for that money. You may have told yourself "there's more" but there isn't. No matter how much you stamp your feet and cry about it, you're not going to get native MacOS on there unless Apple nukes their entire MB line. This meets or exceeds the daily computational needs of anyone working outside of STEM. That is exactly what the product was advertised as.

[@periocity]

The people who complain most about the iPad Pro are not the target audience.

[@markm7411]

lol you mean just regular people would spend 3-4K on iPad ?

[@markm7411]

Most of iPad Pro buyers buy them because they are such a shiny product which everyone loves to look at and false expectations, they are for rich people which like to have some KZbin watch device and don’t mind spending 3-4k for it and artist that’s it, for everyone else there are much better options for much less money, I have a pro iPad m1 bought on release haves probably like 30 hours of use

[@mosijahi3096]

@@markm7411you still haven’t learned how to use it to it’s full capability in years?

[@japkoslav]

I guess the target audience is people who are ok with halfbaked software with ton of bugs and UI decisons that would bring every designer to tears.

[@jakestechtravels4864]

Stupid comment, if it became more of a laptop replacement it would boost sales…. A huge amount. I have the new M4 Pro, also M2 Pro MacBook…. I do software engineering both personally and professionally. I want to use the iPad for engineering work, but I also want to use it for photo/video editing (which it can do). But the fact this has a more powerful chipset than my MacBook and I can’t execute a single line of code (within some container or whatever) Is a joke.

[@dontannenbaum4734]

Why does the iPad need to be more than a iPad? I use my iPad Pro all the time for browsing the web, taking notes, reading emails and watching videos and it works great for that. Creative artists and content creators can do more with it because of the pencil and I sometimes use it with the keyboard to type some emails when I don't feel like going downstairs to get my MacBook. I did think about whether I could use it as a laptop replacement but then decided that it wasn't mean't to be that. I just got the new iPad Pro mainly for the brighter OLED screen and the thin and light weight form factor. My old iPad Pro was really losing battery life quickly and so I went the expensive route by buying the new one instead of the Air for the OLED display. I am happy with just using it as an iPad.

[@northwindkey]

Because it costs so much. And it costs so much because of the hardware. Hardware that isn’t utilized at all because fundamentally the iPad is still running software made for phones. You’re paying extra for a bunch of hardware that you’re not ever gonna end up using. The regular iPad can do everything that 95% of people will use an iPad for. So just stick the tandem OLED and new Apple Pencil on a regular new iPad, don’t force them to be part of a device with super overpriced processing power that’s never gonna get used.

[@dinis984]

Sam your videos have been looking gorgeous and you’re doing a great job!

[@AppleTrack]

You're the best! 😊

[@lillyjb214]

@@AppleTrack Are you using an alt account to compliment yourself?? 🤔

[@Omegabird113]

@@lillyjb214probably not, it’s probably just a normal fan or a bot who made the Original Comment.

[@dinis984]

@@lillyjb214 I live in Portugal, so if you want to come visit and see I’m a normal dude like anybody else feel free to do it. Food’s pretty good in this country.

[@cosmicreaverkassadin1143]

@@lillyjb214bro wtf?

[@michaelcobbin]

I use a laptop for work. Outside of work, I don’t want to use the laptop. If I need to do more/significant typing on the iPad, I grab my Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, I have the perfect stand setup in my home office for the iPad. I use the iPad for content, but I also use DaVinci Resolve on my iPad to create videos. I would use the iPad in pure tablet form about 70% of the time and the remaining 30% with the keyboard and mouse. The iPad is the perfect device to use at home because I’m tempted to carry on doing work. Yes, the file management system could be better, but 90% of files are stored in the cloud, so it is not a big issue. Most people probably store their files in the cloud in case a device crashes. There is one big flaw in your argument, I use multiple devices to connect to files. I use either One Drive or Google Drive to move my files around. I didn’t need to worry about only having 256 Gb on my device because I have 12 TB in the cloud. Yes, Stage Manager needs to be enhanced/improved. I expecting for this occur. Every single Windows 2-in-1 device sucks at the tablet format, which is my preference at home. The iPad is the best tablet device available; it now has the hardware to support it. The software side now needs to catch up, which is happening. There is a strong case not to merge the iPad and laptop because they appeal to different types of users. Only 10% of users want the iPad to behave like a laptop. Why would you destroy a device to satisfy of your users 10% want? Why? If you want a device to behave like a laptop, buy a laptop in the first place.

[@deggree]

It always blows my mind to hear people say things like “most people” are fine with the cloud smh. It gets annoying listening to people completely IGNORE the glaring drawbacks of having things stored in the CLOUD. The cloud is not nor will it be in the NEAR future on par with an ON DEVICE experience. I’m tired of people acting like that 10 Gig Apple Pro Res Log Video they shot on their 15pro Max doesn’t take forever to pull back down from the cloud no matter how good your internet speeds are. The loading circle on the thumbnails, the fact that you can’t store ANYTHING in the cloud anywhere anyway you want. The cloud was meant to be BACKUP not a realtime situational space replacement. If it works for YOUR needs fine, but please stop pushing this narrative that because we have the cloud so many things are basically “resolved” or unneeded.

[@Akeoni]

So did you use laptop iPad or iPhone to write this comment?

[@michaelcobbin]

@@Akeoni iPad

[@nicolasdujarrier]

You don’t need to destroy the iPad to enable it to work closer to a Mac laptop. Personally, as a consumer, I want to have the (chargeable) option to time to time install MacOS apps on the iPad, that could be used only with mouse/keyboard (and the touchscreen could be disabled in this mode, I am OK with that). It would allow to have only one all-in-one device (an iPad) to confortably do most (90% of the time) of my activities (surfing the web, checking emails, watching videos,…) and unconfortably, time to time (less than 10% of the time), do some light productivity work (word, spreadsheet,…). It would avoid the expense to buy a 2nd device (a computer) that wouldn’t be used that much… Obviously, it is not what Tim Cook wants because it would somewhat decrease Apple revenue, and so Tim Cook bar his talented engineers from enabling this 😢😢😢

[@robbyb.8905]

I don’t get all of the negative comments saying that the iPad is incapable. I do everything and more on my iPad than I would with traditional laptop.

[@HeyItsHades]

iPad Pro is just Apples very expensive version of an Chromebook that also has touch/pencil support. Once you see it that way, everything makes sense. It's supposed to "replace a laptop" the same way they try to market ChromeOS can "replace your laptop". If your job can be done on a Chromebook or iPad then you job can be done on an iPhone (pencil user for iPad excluded) you just want a bigger screen because even the iPhone can use wireless keyboards.

[@robbyb.8905]

@@HeyItsHades sir, this statement is so ridiculous. First of all the iPad came out way before a Chromebook dead secondly, I could never do or come close to the workflow that I have on a Chromebook. It doesn’t have a 10th of the power of my iPad I have created entire marketing campaigns on my iPadwebsites, promotional videos, business identities, things that I could never even start to do on a Chromebook.

[@robbyb.8905]

@@HeyItsHades\ no disrespect, but you really sound silly comparing the iPad Pro to a Chromebook. The Chromebook is a web-based operating system. You can’t even download real applications on it plus they’re super underpowered. Those things are only OK for word processing web browsing and checking your email can’t even watch a good Netflix show on those things on my iPad Pro I’ve created 4K videos on them, business identities, art pieces, websites, fashion, designs, you name it I’ve done it and you can do it on the iPad Pro.

[@edd9581]

@@robbyb.8905you can get real applications on chrome os, oh and you can have a real terminal also…

[@markwilliamson9199]

Love using my iPad for almost everything. But I can’t run GoodSync to backup my files!

[@jameswestcott4191]

I have low vision and the iPad is essential for me. The iPhone screen is too small and having the simplicity of iOS on a larger screen is way better for every day tasks compared to using my MacBook. I don’t want a complex OS and the new accessories like the keyboard are a distraction from what the iPad should be used for, at least for me. As for the extra compute power, let’s hope we get some cool AI features that can help me see the world again.

[@kevinnnoz]

Outstanding observations Sam. You nailed the issues. Totally. Tablet sales for Apple have been fading as the years go by, not because people are simply hanging on to them longer… but because nothing much has changed over the journey. Ipad gets some new words to the music from time to time… but the song remains the same. I bought my iPad Pro in 2017. Since then I’ve updated my iMac to a kick-arse Mac Studio with a pair of studio displays, I’ve updated my iPods 3 times to now having a pair of 2nd gen pros, I’ve bought a pair of home pods and HomePod minis… and I’ve changed the phone up a few time as well. Why? Because they all help me do more and enjoy more… they’ve evolved. But the iPad has just gotten older. The end.

[@JennR323]

It had been awhile since I got a new iPad. I ended up getting the 11 inch pro and very pleased with it. I use mine for leisure. My hubby has a MacBook so I use his if I need too

[@pmbear]

Here it is: The Apple Sales Philosophy/Dichotomy!! They won’t cannibalize their Mac line with iPads. They won’t cannibalize their iPad line with Macs. Apple always does this. They give you everything you think you want… but all of their products are like 75-90% there. Unfortunately to have it all, you need to BUY IT ALL, and that really sucks but let’s face it Apple is all about selling their wares, and they know exactly how to go about doing this. From walled gardens, to connector ports that are proprietary, to features mysteriously missing. It’s like Siri and Apple Watch… portrayed as “hobbies”, I mean basically they deliver incomplete everything. I mean are you kidding me, we are this far down the road and an iPad can’t have a calculator app… and they start to feel the heat so they are going to add it and make a big deal about it. They want us to buy new gear yearly, and that’s the bottom line. They may as well start making gear that implodes after 365 days… if legally they could, trust me when I say THEY WOULD. The world’s eyes are opening to the ways of Apple, and it is not the greatest optics. I am no doomsayer, I love Apple so much… but I had an iPad Pro sitting in my cart since the event, and I am just watching and getting informed before dropping the money. This video is helping a lot…

[@Realdaveromero]

SAM, you are not the demographic for this device hate to break it to you. A "pro" iPad Pro user is climbing telephone poles needing statistics, a doctor needing 3d scans in the field right next to their patient during surgery, a musician who needs a touch based os to manipulate sound, or a calligraphy artist who needs tilt, barrel roll and hover to see exactly where their line will be before they write it and can get the exact thickness and fine lines. 3D modeling, animation, the list goes on... Anyone that requires an intimate touch based OS. This, is Apples target demographic. They made it thinner for THESE pro users. You my friend would fall under the category of a "pro" traditional computer user, where keyboard shortcuts, complex plug ins and tandem software running, coding, etc. anything designed for a keyboard and mouse based input basically. These are traditional ways we all know of doing work and it's okay to have leaned these ways very efficiently and fast and effective. But there's a touch based way of learning these tasks as well. yes it may not be as efficient (yet) but 99% of the time its just as effective, and you will get more efficient as time goes on. And I get it, It's hard to break habits and learning new software and creating new workflows but it' is possible. It's like going from a car to an electric motorcycle; little bit of a learning curve, and may I say dedication and a little talent?. But it's also possible to use these two devices together in tandem. For example, most the time my iPad pro is on a stand next to my mac and I use it as a sidekick and portable computer when I'm not at my desk. I can start making music on my iPad in logic and then finish mixing and mastering on my mac. I also work with designs and 3d modeling and i use my iPad pro solely for those projects. I use my mac for certain "pro" things and my iPad for OTHER "pro" things. And that's fine with me, I'm not too sure why everyone wants an all in one. I would personally hate doing any type of huge file management project, or multi frame video editing, or really anything that requires multiple screens or a larger screen on an iPad. It just comes down to thinking what the best case scenario for these devices are, and if your workflow falls under those categories or not.

[@celestial_stuff]

You articulated this so well.

[@Dillingham-]

Just replaced a 2017 ipad pro with an M4. It's fantastic. I have never needed or been distracted by a keyboard accessory. In the Intel era Apple often sold macbooks at full price with technology that was years behind. It's far better to know the ipad you buy today has the best available technology inside and will last for many years.

[@RedheadLG]

I know I'm in the minority but I would love to see them do more with the iPad Mini. I would love to use that as my main content consumption and light work device, but the battery life is atrocious and the screen quality doesn't meet the standards of a 2024 product. It's just the right size for portability though

[@Ansel_Here]

You missed something vital to the importance of the iPad and that’s its platform for digital artwork. It is in a class by itself because of the Apple Pencil and keyboard. As a graphic designer/illustrator/ surface designer and self-published children’s book writer, the iPad Pro is my primary device. I want it to do everything. I don’t want to sit at my desk anymore, I just want the iPad to run all the programs I use. This includes adobe illustrator and photoshop which adobe has failed in my opinion in making a full version for the iPad. Consequently, affinity has taken up the slack by creating a full featured option with photo, designer and publisher. I also want to create animations on the iPad with adobe character animator which roundtrips with illustrator and photoshop. This is where I think you are wrong. Adding a docked version of macOS on the iPad Pro 1 and 2 TB versions is the best idea I’ve heard so far. It’s time for apple to move forward instead of being locked in an old paradigm it’s created by categorizing its various offerings.

[@Ansel_Here]

After today’s WWDC keynote I think I’m going to resign.

[@LS-jv4uh]

5:00 The “point” of macOS on the iPad is simply having to carry less but still have it all: a great drawing experience (eg Procreate) AND a great software development experience (or whatever highly specialized things professionals do on mac). I desperately want that!

[@PatriceSmith]

But that is called the MacBook Air

[@kurosamurai1173]

@@PatriceSmith The Air have no Pencile Support. Microsoft Surface is in both worlds. But have the issu with less touch support. Dual-Boot option for iPad can solve the problem. Or let people the want MacOS on it download per App store.

[@DarkPa1adin]

They just need a surface pro with M4 chip

[@LS-jv4uh]

@@PatriceSmith you can’t draw with an Apple Pencil on a Macbook Air.

[@supercellex4D]

Then make it like Windows 8. Touch UI with macOS internals and freedom to run Unix terminal experiences. Add a RecoveryOS for system integrity protection. Push it to all iPads with M* processors.

[@thirtyfive3d542]

The anti-iPad Pro people are hilarious. “I don’t like this new fountain pen because it’s not enough like a socket wrench.”

[@abrahamroberts2040]

I’m loving my new m4 iPad Pro 13”. Fun to use in the hand and the display is fantastic to use outside in daylight. My work apps are web based so taking it on the go without my MacBook Pro works out just fine. Excellent second screen for the MacBook Pro too.

[@sunmolaa]

Please how do you work with doc, PDF and xls files ?

[@supme7558]

Thanks samsung

[@WheelieGayJay]

I’ve used my iPad Pro 11” 2018 model as my only laptop and I’ve had no issues. Just calm down and relax y’all. There are worse things in the world than you not being able to use a product the way you want.

[@PatrickMunyi-ez5un]

What tech KZbinrs want to do with an iPad Pro is not what other professionals use it for. Surgeons, pilots, researchers, architects, artists, business men ….all these are pros and make the best use case for the form factor. If you need a Mac use a Mac

[@celestial_stuff]

Exactly.

[@gabbylopez8090]

Still have my Ipad Mini and my ipad Pro 11 inch 2018. Amazed by my 13inch it is big but Im still gonna keep it lol

[@KOSTNOT]

Yeah, im an artist and thats my primary use for it. I have no idea why non creatives would want an iPad besides media consumption. Perhaps maybe this WWDC we will get answers .

[@SelvarajuManivannan06]

I m non-artist guy. I want to use iPad as my computer. Yes it s capable and worthy. The only limitations we have is no iPad Terminal, virtualisation and more ram … MacBook is highly expensive !!!

[@jeffsancricca7041]

@@SelvarajuManivannan06problem is when you get to the pricing of 1tb and 16 Gb ram you might as well have bought a MacBook Air…. Really makes no sense, they’ve priced it out of being a tablet, and throttled it down to much to be a laptop.

[@southwestkinema9149]

It's the best tablet on the market. Some people just like tablets. Doctors use tablets, Teachers & students because they are portable. It's not just creatives that use that device.

[@SelvarajuManivannan06]

@@southwestkinema9149 yes we want the portability too. We are not asking something not possible. Processor is capable, ram is enough, benchmarks are mostly like pc, and Apple itself marketing as next pc.. why don’t limit the software ?? A terminal, virtualisation option and container management won’t take more than 500mb..

[@e8p1q]

I only use mine to take notes for college and to occasionally sign docs

[@illhaveawtrplz]

Imagine this: Remove the camera bump, put a 180º hinge on the keyboard, and make the keyboard housing a plastic-y material again. Make the keyboard 8-10 mm thick and fill all the newly empty space in there with batteries and I/O (2 more USB-C TB ports, HDMI, SD card reader, and headphone jack). Put pogo pins on the keyboard flap as it is now and put another set to the right of the right-side shift/return key. Disguise these new pogo pins by hiding them with some upward-facing speaker grills like the M1 MacBook Air. Put magnets around the perimeter of the keyboard surface.This 10 mm keyboard + 5 mm iPad = the same thickness as a MBP. I call it the beef-king keyboard (this name will need some marketing work). Finally, install iPadOS and MacOS in tandem with a translation layer between them. Let’s talk about how these hardware changes affect the UX: When you want a tablet, take the iPad off the keyboard and it shows standard iPadOS. Normal iPad experience with 17 hours of battery life. Maybe you want to keep the case on hand, awesome. Flip the flap around to the back of the keyboard and cover the keyboard with the iPad. The pogo pins on the right-hand side of the shift/return key connect and BAM: you have 2x battery life (35+ hours). In this mode, the I/O ports on the case are disabled to prevent port damage while handling the iPad like a tablet with dongles and usb sticks hanging everywhere. It’s time to get down to work, cool. Flip the flap back around, put the iPad on it. The flap pogos connect and you again get external power delivery from the keyboard and can now access the extra I/O, also through the pogos. The keyboard is heavier now thanks to the extra batteries, so it doesn’t tip over when used in your lap (big win). The iPad detects that it’s in laptop mode, so it prompts you to switch modes. If you say yes, it translates into a MacOS view and disables the touchscreen functionality, presenting a proper mouse instead of the orblob pointer. If you say no, it stays in iPad mode so you can type a quick email and get back to netflix or whatever. On the software side, switching between tablet and desktop modes does not close any apps or lose any data, but instead translates them into their touchable or desktop forms. There’s a lot more to explore here but this is getting long. This would not cannibalize MacBook sales. This hypothetical iPad would only ever get the base M# chipset. MacBook Pros will always have the advantage of active cooling, bigger screens, and more powerful chip speccing options, and MacBook Airs would be significantly cheaper than this hypothetical iPad after factoring in the cost of the iPad and the keyboard. Each MacBook would still have a good value proposition for their demos, and everyone in the middle could go with this hypothetical iPad and spec it to their needs and budget by purchasing the appropriate folio/magic keyboard/beef-king keyboard option. Also, just freaking allow 3rd party app installation on iPadOS, jfc.

[@LarryCastle]

I use my iPad Pro for almost all my work tasks. I do a lot of standard business tasks (correspondence, research, reading, media consumption) and a few creative tasks (ad design, and some video editing). I find the iPad more than sufficient for all those tasks and better than my M2 Mac mini in several respects (i.e. touch screen, portability, etc.). Since the addition of external monitor support as an extended display and now with the new camera placement for FT and Zoom, the only thing holding me back is a few of the developer’s who’s software I use not taking advantage of the hardware on iPad (e.g. Proclaim by Faithlife). If Apple could find a way to securely facilitate background tasks for things like rendering Final Cut projects, I would have no limitations on my iPad that were not the fault of 3rd party developer lag. Just my experience; I know many feel there are more deficits on iPad. I just don’t experience them. I genuinely prefer the experience on my iPad over a Mac for most of my day to day use.

[@Ibraheem.]

Why are so many KZbinrs parroting this same rhetoric. Like yes you have a point but it’s like? Suggest something then? Tell Apple what it could potentially do? It’s just. Let’s tell Apple what they’re doing is not sitting right without any discourse around what direction the iPad should maybe potentially take if it’s lacking innovation. People are so desperately picking apart the whole iPad without suggesting anything at all period point blank. Like is it not doing everything a hands on large screen device is capable to do? Yes it’s doing great at those things, therefore we get some superficial upgrades like the screen display or Magic Keyboard upgrading may be all they can cook up for now. Main point: if you’re going to pick apart a machines philosophy, suggest literally something anything that would make it closer to achieving the benchmark of what you expect from said machine. Thank you

[@jvlppm]

Feels like Apple didn’t know what to do with the iPad, but it kept selling.

[@joselucnico]

Apple know : replace the MacBook. But people and dev don’t.

[@lestat1886]

No just that youtubers don’t like tablets and forget that it is a tablet that they try to review as a touchscreen macbook

[@MaiElizabeth]

To me, as long as Apple still cannot make the cursor on iPad looks like 'normal cursor', it can never replace a laptop. I love the black backdrop by the way.

[@cheap25]

It was never their goal to replace the laptop. That’s kind of their point. They want you to buy both of them.

[@AnonN-sr6uu]

Don’t let tech KZbin trick you into forgetting the iPad Pro is the most versatile product Apple makes. My M4 13” is the best Apple product I own.

[@yelayu8457]

1. I don’t think putting MacOS on it would be a problem, because they could easily optimize it for touch or you could use the keyboard. The issue is Apple just doesn’t want to cannibalize the sales of their desktop sand laptops. I think that’s the only reason. 2. I also think the issue isn’t that adding desktop level features hasn’t done anything - I’ve quite enjoyed the features they’ve added, the focus on iPadOS as a specific operating system, and I’m one of the few monsters who quite enjoy Stage Manager lol. To me, the main issue is that they haven’t truly allowed it to live up its potential by giving us the ability to install desktop/MacOS software. In the same that a laptop isn’t limited in what it can add, pro tablets shouldn’t be limited either. The thing that would make it perfect is if I could use desktop level software/apps on it. Nearly EVERYTHING I need is here, however, I have to still keep a cheap desktop computer on hand, because there’s one software that I simply can’t use on here, despite the fact that my iPad is more powerful than most desktops and laptops which CAN run the particular software I need. I think one of the things could finally bridge the gap is to include access to MacOS software and the ability to install MacOS level software on it the same way I would with a desktop. If we could use desktop software on it, that would solve a lot of problems. Now, of course, you wouldn’t be able to use every desktop level piece of software, but it’d be fairly easy to determine which ones might be out of the reach of the iPad system. Being locked into the App Store is an issue. 3. I also think another problem is that people buy an iPad expecting it to be something that’s it not. I think people need to get what works for their use case. I think a lot of the people who are upset with iPads are upset because they buy them expecting a laptop/desktop experience, when it’s pretty clear that these are aimed primarily at creatives whose workflow can be streamlined (in the case of the iPad Pro) or people whose use case can be streamlined and simplified (the average internet browser, basic task user, media consumer). Again, if one needs a laptop/desktop experience entirely, then one should get that. I particularly like the smaller footprint of this device (although nobody needed it to be thinner lol), and I like the cellular option that allows me to use it outdoors without needing WIFI and allows me to use Find My protections. For my use case, it does pretty much everything I need it to do. Adding access to desktop/laptop level apps would unlock it totally I’d also like to add files to the desktop. That would solve the problems for me. I honestly don’t have much an issue with iOS (except the weird download options for some software/apps, like having to press “Open In” just to download instead of having a plain download option for some apps. Other than that, I’m happy with it. If I wanted a laptop or a desktop, I’d get it. And the iPad meets my needs.

[@southwestkinema9149]

They'll do it Mac os on a ipad. Just expect to pay 5000 dollars for the base model. Still out of reach for everyone except these rich tech reviewers that keep moaning about ipad ios. & they'll be just fine with it being unaffordable to the masses.

[@joselucnico]

Yes it is, the UHD size is not the same, you must rewrite the entire app to work on iPad os. Think about that : you don’t buy a game console with a mouse.

[@connoryoutube20]

ipad is a luxury item, meant to be an accessory to the ecosystem. combining general computing with touch, it just makes simple tasks more fun. I look at it like it’s a giant iphone

[@christianr.5868]

That doesn’t mean it can’t be more

[@Tobiasberger]

Idk bro, I’ve been using iPad for a long time and I know people are complaining but I’ve never complained about it (especially now after all the updates). And I don’t really get what the big deal is? So it doesn’t do well on editing apps ?

[@Miguel-fm8xh]

My M1 MacBook Pro became my iPad replacement. A full 13" screen, capable of all laptop things, able to run all kinds of software and no slow operating system. My iPad mini exists, but only when I don't want to take much with me or need to do some small business on it.

[@susansouthard]

I love my iPad. It’s perfect for what I need, I don’t need a computer. I need something a step down from a computer. I watch stuff on my iPad, do my social media stuff, play a few games, email and use it for my knitting patterns. It’s perfect.

[@Eddiebleakley]

my ipad pro is my day to day computer. i only use my macbook air for minor tasks. just because it doesn’t work for you doesn’t mean it stinks. it just doesn’t work for you.

[@cadenchurchill4296]

My iPad Pro is by far one of my favourite tech devices I have ever owned, but definitely couldn’t 100% replace my MacBook. As an additional device though it’s fantastic

[@hannes6114]

And now I am sitting here with my Heavy Ass IPad Pro for 700 Euros just to experience KZbin with neck and arm pain and in Worte Resolution - 12,9" truly is great

[@MaestroWenarto]

you look so clear inside my iPad Pro

[@lukepruscino5101]

I’m a college student and I use both the iPad Pro and the MacBook. They work really well together in the same ecosystem. I use the iPad for my homework by using the Apple Pencil on pdf worksheets but I always upload those pdfs to my MacBook because it’s way superior in terms of file management. That’s the one thing I would love on the iPad which is better file management.

[@peat381low8]

I never touch my mac now. Tim Cook said it right. The iPad Pro is my go-to main computer. PDF expert is cheaper on iPadOS. The games that run 120hz. Shows and movies all on now tandum OLED. Writing ✍️ cursive now to practice with writey. 5G UC. And Airplay automatically connects to my HomePods stereo paried when playing music or KZbin. My Mac can’t do that. And I write songs on GarageBand just fine and better on that giant touchscreen.

[@Freestyler4130]

Yeah people that think it needs macOS don’t understand how old the traditional “operating systems” really are.

[@orion2250]

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[@celestial_stuff]

IYKYK exactly.

[@garrettmineo]

Next step, put Finder on the iPads then build from there. Sure the file structure is different but people want more control so start there.

[@jayb8934]

I accepted long ago that in iPad is not a "computer". That's why I'm probably never going to spend thousands of dollars on an iPad Pro (and accessories). I have an iPad Air (no keyboard) to do tablet stuff, and it supplements my laptop beautifully.

[@kevinkoplar8809]

The drop at the end was priceless. Very painful to see 😂 being the Fanboy I am

[@06bostonguy]

I totally agree with you, i just returned my IPad Pro 13”M4 chip yesterday. My older 2020 iPad Pro 12Z chip does all the same as the new one, a bit slower for sure and the screen isn’t that nice but that doesn’t justify the crazy price tag when you combine the New Magic Keyboard and new Apple Pencil Pro. Amazing hardware hold back by iPad OS. I think is a better deal to get an older M1 or M2 chip for a much cheaper price and it will do everything including the Apple Intelligence features. Im gonna keep mine

[@melody-cheung]

I don’t know why people were complaining about the new iPad Pro limitations so much. For me, I think people were buying the wrong products. iPad Pro line ups were for the professionals usage like AAA title on-device gaming, hardcore video editing, pro music production, even the procreate drawing business. These were the people that take advantages on the newest iPad Pro. But if you are a daily user who only browse apps, streaming services, KZbins, or writing, doing assignments. Then just get a more lightweight iPad like iPad 10 or refurbished iPad Pro. Cheap, reusable and functionality per value. If you want a desktop environment for productivity then just get MacBook, same apps from the iPadOS App Store with more 3rd party software supported.

[@neptunexp]

I agree 100%. The iPad vs the Mac is a compromise across the board. I would never choose the iPad to do work over the Mac. Ever.

[@PaceyPimp]

I've known of this issue from day 1. They needed to create a touch friendly version of MacOS that was not limiting. Back then the limitations were hardware and storage but today that's not so, so why haven't they done this. For the same reason they won't make a MacBook with a touchscreen. They start to emerge creating only 1 product of the future and not the 2 they have so i feel they fear loss in sales. This was the original goal in the beginning but the hardware was not there yet. What they think is we will buy both. Laptop and tablet but what they don't understand is we now know the limits so a person who needs a laptop will but only a laptop and for simpler tasks like a sales person running up a sale or doing an in person presentation the iPad is what they will go with. People don't need both now they buy based on need. Instead they should do the touch version of MacOS eliminate PC's and show us the future of computing, but no instead they add these desktop features little by little so they can try an trick us that this is finally the version of the iPad that will get me to eliminate my need for a laptop and that's never the case. Best way to make this happen is to stop buying the iPad till they make it happen and if you need a table buy the previous model but so buy the new models till they make it right finally.

[@ChatGPT1111]

I've reached the point where I don't need an upgrade on anything, my M1 Studio Ultra, M1 Macbook Air, M1 iPad Pro, earpods pro, iPhone 14 Pro, or first gen Apple TV 4K. I'm gonna let them all fail and if Apple pulls the plug, I will go elsewhere and start saving lots of $$$.

[@8bitwarrior]

The only issue that I have is that if the iPad has to be limited compared to a Mac, it should not cost nearly as much as one. Even an iPad Pro.

[@ChillCollins616]

Zero problem here. This thing is an absolute BEASTY for music.

[@caerolleclaudel1768]

I love the tablet form factor, and with the right features would meet pretty much all my needs: tablet for consumption, ‘laptop’ for something productive but flexible in terms of where I can use it, and a desktop when docked, with the OS making use of the whole screen. I don’t care how they do it, but for me they need to either give the M-class iPads the capability to run desktop grade apps (for example a real browser not a pseudo one) or get a much wider range of fully-featured apps that can compete with desktop apps (and not just Apple apps but things like Office 365) while still not being MacOS (my preference), or just make a MacOS tablet. Which Apple will never do because they want us to buy as many separate devices as possible, and ideally as many different accessories for each device as possible.

[@jimtipton8888]

Interesting take. I think viewed thru the lens of a content creator you might be right. However not all of us are content creators. Looking at it thru my paradigm and experience with the iPad (dating to the original), I would contend that iPadOS has definitely evolved for the better. The evolution has been unarguably slow, which is frustrating at times, but evolved all the same. I have and continue to use the iPad daily in a corporate sales position that involves lots of different apps, multitasking and (gasp) file management. For the most part it does a stellar job. Are there some idiosyncrasies that I wish would be worked out? Yep. Are they deal breakers, nope. Like you I’m hopeful that iPadOS 18 will bring further improvements, but even without, I find the iPad a very useful device in my day to day life over and above just content consumption (although it’s pretty great for that too). Cheers!

[@deathdogg0]

I would love to replace my macbook with an iPad pro if I could run logic and xcode without losing features. It would make recording so much easier, especially because my "home studio" is not so much a location as a concept revolving around what hardware I have easily available. I could easily pick up my ipad and plug in an interface and go to town. With a laptop, I have to find an extra solid surface to set it on, it has a manditory keyboard at all times when all I really need is the screen, and it's just bulky when you factor in all the extra stuff you need to have around to record. When I need xcode, I could just dock the ipad to a keyboard and go ham. It would be the perfect device. Right now the iPad is mostly geared towards drawing artists, which is great, but I don't think that's the only audience Apple were originally going for. They were just one of the many working groups out there. Like many have already said, we just need fully baked file management and slightly better apps, and we could all have what we each want

[@esco.letsgo]

It’s a shame the anker stand you’re promoting doesn’t have an Ethernet port, would’ve been complete.

[@tw106]

I use an iPad to consume media and enjoy entertainment; I use my Macbook for work and being productive. The tablet form-factor is great as a media device but cannot compete with a laptop for work productivity. Giving a tablet a stylus, and attachable keyboard, and mouse, and connectivity to hubs, monitors, etc, makes the whole experience and purpose convoluted and confusing.

[@Duskydog419]

Keyword is personal computing. If you’re doing work for somebody else, then it’s not personal computing. you use the iPad to check your email watch videos you like to. But if you try to use the iPad for not personal use then it’s commercial computing. It’s supposed to give you a hug not a handshake at least that’s how I see it.

[@iCandyBunnyMadness]

As a student and a creative I personally take full advantage of the form factor that is the iPad Pro, The one thing I believe that is holding the ipad back is honestly the watered down programs that are on the ipad. For example adobe photoshop (is missing core features for whatever reason on the ipad) etc. I use the M2 ipad, i don't see a reason to upgrade to the M4 because the programs are still not on par with the ones on the macbook pro, so sadly I have to navigate carrying BOTH devices due to the software limitations.

[@randomghost4385]

My cousin works at Apple Store and he said no one touching these if they already have previous versions. The new air is what people choosing. So to me the KZbin tech guys glazing this iPad Pro don’t match the sales, there is a disconnect

[@uncgaron]

I wish they would let you add MacOS for those of us who have the pro’s. If you’re willing to pay $3077 for an iPad, cannibalizing sales is not an issue.

[@Theinspirationalrogue]

I’m an average user and I tried fully using the iPad Air 5 as an overall Laptop replacement after my MacBook Pro 2015 was sold and I couldn’t …… I would use it for productivity, scheduling, emails, note taking, ofc media consumption etc… There were minor little issues here and there that made me go off at times, such as I couldn’t even properly renew my Drivers defense course online, yet my brothers $200 laptop did it with flying colors. I went into the best buy store right after and bought the MacBook Air m1, no complaints. My final thoughts, the iPad is more of an assist to any laptop (doesn’t have to necessarily be a MacBook but anyone ofc would prefer a MacBook if they had to pick a laptop to lead the way). Should macOS be installed in the iPad? Definitely not, iPadOS just needs to further grow to certain degree.

[@jaleelakram2232]

Bro got the 11 inch and love the display.. I am upgrading from air 2 so it's a huge upgrade if you keep it for 10 years 😅

[@jonathangrant7208]

I like how Samsung have gone about this problem with Dex. I can use tablet mode on my tab S8 Ultra for tablety activities but can use Dex for more of a laptop experience. Not saying Dex is perfect, but would love to see Apple work their magic on this approach

[@inmortal3]

no, sorry, i have a mac and i don´t use it (just for more heavy duty), because the ipad does it almost all. maybe you haven´t found your workflow on it. At least for me each device has its porpouse, i use the mac, but just to do some special work that a tablet can not do. But i use ipad 90% of the time. not for consuming, but for producing / studying.

[@BommeltjeNL]

The IPad Pro is my main computer for 7+ years and I use it for private and work related assignments. The iPad can’t do everything (not right away), but I found workarounds for it to do the same (and some are even faster than you can do on a desktop). That said, I would like the file system to be a bit more pro than what we have now. And for the rest… the iPad Pro was made for me and other users like me. It’s a hundred times more fun than working on a laptop or desktop computer.

[@MrBenvenuti]

Stop trying to do things on IPad as you would on a Mac and you’ll love it. BeeniPad only for few years now. Sure iPad os can benefit from a big update, but as long as you adapt to the new flow it’s great.

[@gstevens6948]

My M1 iPad Pro with Magic Keyboard and 2nd gen pencil still checks the news and weather really well… and plays my games too… 😉 ❤

[@jamesnyers1721]

The iPad's biggest problem is that the iPad Pro does not do more than the base iPad. Just more bells and whistles. I am a Logic Pro user for about 15 years on the Mac. The idea of having the full Logic Pro on an iPad in my hands is what i am waiting for. Which means great file management and multiple floating resizable plugin windows displayed at the same time. Just like on the Mac. Until then: the base iPad is my friend for media consumption.

[@studiovitta]

the iPad Pro is almost perfect for portable photo and video editing machine at least

[@james_godfrey]

I have said it for years. The iPad is the only platform where the OS has not been built from the ground up in Apple’s line up, and coincidentally is the platform which has the most complaints about its OS. Until Apple actually bring a brand new OS to the iPad, it will always be a large and more expensive iPhone, or a less capable/more expensive Mac. Don’t get me wrong there are use cases for the iPad (artists, children etc.) but for the majority, people will always turn to their iPhones or Mac’s before the iPad for the majority of tasks. The only way Apple can fix this is by going back to the drawing board and bring a brand new iPadOS, that is actually made for the iPad.

[@darkmode1145]

I’m curious, you said that with the new iPad, you still use it the same way as you used an older iPad, so my question is, when a new mac is released, do you use it the same way compared to to the older machine you have upgraded from? There seems to be a real misunderstanding of the iPad amongst tech KZbinrs/ reviewers- they all seem to think that the pro name suggests that it should work in a different way from the regular iPad, which to me is a bit difficult to understand- pro means higher spec hardware- the Mac Pro for example doesn’t operate in a different way from the standard iMac, it uses the same OS, so why should it be different for the iPad? The fact is that if the iPad doesn’t do what you want it to do, then a mac is for you- you chose the correct tool for the job. If i want to go off road in a two wheel drive car, it’s not going to get me very far, so I would have to use a 4 wheel drive car. I respect that certain areas of iPad OS could be improved, but that also applies to iOS and MacOS.

[@unquestionabletv]

MacOS sure is built for ARM, but BASED off of x86… iPad has been built from the ground up with ARM in mind, starting from iOS to slowly be as capable as macOS. Now that the iPad has had M-series chips for a few years, once they are in more people’s hands, they will allow things like MacOS when connected to a mouse and keyboard, already have VisionOS integration, HomeOS(they once had a job listing that leaked HomeOS by mistake) is a good area of interest, but really… what do you WANT from the iPad? It basically is so close to doing anything you really ever need. It truly is the magic sheet of glass already.

[@alicerum4058]

I’d personally love it to be able to run vscode (or intellij products), and a terminal. And ideally homebrew as well, but that one is not a deal breaker. Unfortunately, ipad is very far from doing anything I *really* need for work. In my use case it’s no more than a glorified notebook, and fails to be more due to iPadOS limitations.

[@onth3hous3]

All I hear is “KZbinrs like me like to watch Netflix watch KZbin and this device hasn’t changed that much”…….. like what are you even trying to say? 😂

[@Isaac-ht2jz]

that the device can't be use more than a glorified phone

[@davidhawkeye2298]

It’s really a triumph of style over function. I’m an Apple user and the IPad is not a serious workhorse. It might be lauded as such in the hype, It’s glossy and sleek and has a cache that appeals to a certain demographic, but it’s not that great under the hood. If it was I wouldn’t need a MacBook Pro for intensive processes like video editing and photo editing, it’s just not the right tool. and it never will be because Apple don’t want it to be. They want it to be an expensive accessory that makes them a lot of dosh. The marketing is clever, but it’s deceptive. IOS is clunky however fast the M (whatever number) chip makes it go. It’s still blighted by its own limitations. They know that and Apple allude to it replacing the laptop, while knowing full well that it never will, so stop short of actually claiming that it can or ever will.

[@teohyc]

He's trying to say nothing

[@someperson9998]

He's saying that the iPad OS software is limiting the vast hardware. That's literally it? It doesn't take that much brainpower to comprehend...

[@onth3hous3]

@@someperson9998 apparently you can use some brain power 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

[@JusticeIsAProcess]

I have been a day one user of an IPad from day one. Here is my take. The IPad isn’t meant to replace a Mac or an iPhone. It’s meant to complement both. IMO I think only two types should exist an IPad or a IPad Pro. With that said you are spot on with your description of it being your oyster. It can literally be anything you want it to be. What I think Apple needs to do is to come up with a remote solution to allow IPads to remote into the Mac and remotely be able to use the Mac’s we all have at our offices or homes. This should be a feature only accessed with a Magic Keyboard on a pro model. Apple should focus on making it easy to transfer files remotely(already has the infrastructure with iCloud). And this would allow the consumer that travels to decide on a Mac book pro or a iPad Pro for mobile computing. Two different experiences. MacBook your computing power and experience is on board connecting to your desktop with iCloud while IPad docks to a Magic Keyboard and lets your remotely connect to the power of your mac(all models do those docking a MacBook Pro can leave it at home and still have access). With the IPad you can get the full Mac experience with either WiFi or Mobile Internet experience. And when you’re done or if you are out in the field you can use the mobile version of apps to get quick work done. This would also allow for the iPad to still be an artist tool, musics tool, video tool, movie watching tool etc all on a compact glass slate. And when it’s time to work dock it to the Magic Keyboard. Hook it to a mobile monitor and you can remote into your Mac. When you come home it’s an extended display for your Mac or if you head to your coffee table your Mac comes with you remotely. Then it becomes a book or music player etc. To me this allows the IPad mission statement to remain true while allowing it to be a true productivity device. It also allows Apple to still ensure people buy Mac’s.

[@nizexlizzy]

I agree completely. I just uploaded a video talking about final cut pro on the ipad and how it works great but is totally useless. If you export videos it either fails to export or it ties up your ipad to doing nothing but exporting a video until if finishes. At least on a computer you can throw it in the background and get onto other tasks. Until they add true multi-tasking the device will never replace a laptop. I can even deal with the wonky window manager, but without mutitasking, it is useless.

[@blalezarian]

It’s very simple. They want people to still buy both an iPad and a Mac. They don’t want to cannibalize their sales. They will eventually have to do at some point.

[@vanmore5124]

Holding an iPad, making inputs by mistake and trying to balance it on uneven surfaces are equally bad issues for the iPad. It's a great device if you already have a Mac otherwise it's just an annoyance.

[@se7enity648]

Apple gave us a thinner iPad PRO when nobody wanted it. A bigger and longer lasting battery would have been better. We are being told what we need and not what we want.

[@sidsid6380]

I feel like the IPad is an extension of my phone and not my Mac. If Apple refined it for what it is good for and not as a replacement for a Mac it would make a lot more sense.

[@h1a8]

No. They need full MS office apps (add-ons, macros, etc). They need a desktop level file manager. They need MS visual basic. They need desktop level chessbase software. That other stuff is not apple trying to make the iPad a laptop replacement. That's just making it a better tablet.

[@Johnedwardpeterson]

This vid raises more questions than answers. I have 2018 12.9” and yes it’s the big screen I watch videos in bed when phone is too small and tv is too big. Not a professional. I think if they make typing work good for writers, give it real desktop browser because some websites don’t work on iPad, and then really focus on the professional apps ppl use like photo editing/video editing, and drawing/art apps, and coding that’s probably all they need to do. They can keep messing around with multitasking improvements and files but I don’t see what else. Maybe Apple needs to bring in some of these respective professional iPad users who make KZbin videos and get them to lay out exactly what they what in each area of industry. And if they could get Microsoft office word and excel to work really really well for free standard on the iPad I think it would be a serious computer replacement for offices across the world.

[@CelesteMSun]

I got an iPad Pro M4 13” and I’m loving it everyday. Upgraded from an iPad Air 4

[@dr007md]

I feel you. I have my iPad mini 6 and I am very content with it. I have a MacBookPro and don't feel the need to get an iPad Pro. Most everytime Apple sends out a product nowadays, I wonder what Steve would have done if he was alive. The minute changes are not earth shattering anymore as Apple products used to be. It is becoming a sad-er event year after year.

[@DatGuyZee]

MacMobile, a hybrid between macOS and iPadOS instead of it being a hybrid of iOS. The hardware is more than capable but we know that some things won’t translate to a touchscreen hence the hybrid between the two.

[@beniaminradomir9798]

The reason why people are asking for MacOS is because they have given up on apple to fix ipadOS. Stage Manager or the files app are so badly implemented that everybody knows that a fix will never come.

[@mranime9145]

People still misunderstand what apples doing or trying to do with the iPad. We keep comparing iPads to MacBooks instead apple wants us to compare MacBooks to iPads. If you notice iPad don’t seem to get closer to macOS but macOS is steadily becoming more like iPadOS. You can run iPad apps on Mac but not vice versa. It’s the reason for apple switching to arm chips, it was always meant for iPads. Remember the commercials “what’s a computer” apple is slowly trying to redefine how we think of computers. Mac store is all but abandoned because developers don’t build for the Mac store because they don’t need to there just direct downloads. But the App Store is filled with a wealth of apps that can’t be side loaded…

[@Alex-vp4ky]

To all of us who feel like ipads “arent enough,” we arent the target demographic. Sam points it out how its by choice and philosophy that it still feels like an iphone. And yeah-thats the point. Its meant to cater to this younger/newer generation who doesnt see a “computer” as a desktop or laptop machine-but as a powerful yet quick and light device that you take with you. Honestly your phone is the true computer but obviously a small screen has its limitations, but not necessarily in performance. So increase the size and give it accessories to do the job and _voila_ you have a computer. Because what do you _need_ a computer for? Documents, video editing, photo edits, music production, digital art? All of that can be done on it. Yes a mac can do it better/more efficiently. But that isnt the point. Mac/pc guys will always be those type of guys. Theres no real reason they would choose a “inferior” os platform. But the ipad is designed to be an extension of ios-keeping all the familiarity of iphones but all the power of a computer. Its just a product for a different age, a different time. Kids today may not have grown up with a family computer in the living room or everyone getting laptops. Todays kids all get phones and maybe a tablet or 2 for the house. That integration in their lives is what they know, so it makes sense that their preferred platform and productivity machine would by an ipad(tablet). Desktop os would be clunky and “complicated” compared to what they know. Apple upgrading logic and final cut and other creative programs are exactly how apple plans to capture more of this younger generation into treating ipads as this ultimate creativity machine rather than macos being the platform. Because while mac os used to be their core business, apple knows its future isnt in macs, but in iphones. Would you rather build your business on a legacy product (macbooks) or build on your current image and flagship product (iphones).

[@thereelsociety6487]

I’ll admit I only use my M2 iPad Pro for casual video consumption, email, internet browsing, FaceTime etc, but I absolutely love it for it’s beautiful screen and easy navigation (for what I need it for). Is it overpriced for what I use it for? Yes. Am I utilising its full power? Absolutely not. But I love it, what can I say. I guess I’m an iPad Pro smooth brain 🧠