The Italian dream that turned into a nightmare

Case 270: Meredith Kercher
** Content warning: Sexual assault **
For 21-year-old British student Meredith Kercher, spending a year studying in Italy was a dream come true. But within months of arriving in the medieval town of Perugia, that dream quickly turned into a nightmare.
What unravelled next was one of the most polarising murder cases in Italy’s history, with one young American woman at the centre of it all - 22-year-old Amanda Knox.
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[@dalliskay6719]

Glad to see Meredith mentioned. She is somehow getting lost in all the mess sorrounding her passing.

[@JoyJazz14]

Very true 100% agree.

[@Loralanthalas]

Ah. New to true crime and crime stories. The introduction focusing on her told me more about her then Ive ever heard before. (NOT that I've ever cared to follow the media sensationalized BS which is almost akeqys 100% tabloid entertainment since "news" is America is a private for profit business). She sounded like an absolutely wonderful young women. Having said that: it was MUCH more of a bio, background, and humanizing then most victims in true crime get.

[@ninedaysjane2466]

@@Loralanthalas 🙄

[@ulalaFrugilega]

If you search her name on youtube, the first 10 videos are titled "Amanda Knox"...

[@shona-]

Yes whilst Amanda's riding on the fame 🙄 becoming a 'media personality'

[@natalieh4354]

What a way to start the new year!!! My heart aches for Meredith and her family 💐

[@Rrainebow80]

Casefile is epic. Voice, tone, and pace, ten out of ten. Content, compassion for victims 1st class. Always grips me from start to finish. Outstanding work. Thank you. I can't live without you. Please please never stop doing this. Love from a uk top fan. Xx

[@ulalaFrugilega]

Absolutely agree. Started to listen to the podcast with episode 3 and have loved it like no other ever since. Might it be possible the Anonymous Host invented focusing on the victims, giving them a true platform, making their stories known, where - at least at the time - anybody was just fascinated by the perpetrators... the trend in true Crime has since followed him, but is receding already, I feel, and I can't stand it anymore... victims hardly being mentioned by name, certainly not recognisable as individual persons, while killers are being fawned over as o so interesting people.

[@lorraineselby]

The poor Kercher family. R.I.P. Meredith 😢

[@billycoo7916]

What truth? We all know the truth. Rudy Guede broke into the house and raped and killed Meredith. Is there something I’m missing?

[@patrickjackman8688]

Truth is clear she was murdered by rudy geude

[@ninedaysjane2466]

The truth is 100% clear. You just desperately want Amanda to be guilty and it's bizarre.

[@simon01ize]

​@@ninedaysjane2466 You call me obsessive! How much are they paying you ?

[@lorraineselby]

@@ninedaysjane2466do you think she was guilty? I think she was just a scapegoat

[@Gospel_weekly]

Welcome back , im so glad you back , I wa# so worried that you closed shop , thank you from Sydney Australia

[@sineadcarson9336]

Oh my god its so great to have you back . Missed you so much❤❤

[@Lulu-ih9by]

this episode is so sad, listening to how so many innocent people were wronged is truly terrible to hear. i find the fact that Patrick was in prison for 3 WEEKS without any evidence is honestly ridiculous, how can the police arrest a man purely based on one person's testimony without even trying to find evidence first. and poor amanda, the way the press and media dragged her name through the mud is tragic, both her and her boyfriend deserved so much better. the italian police really let down so many people with this case.

[@mytrip6991]

It wasn't even Knox's 'testimony' ; it was two statements written up by the police and signed by Knox which she retracted within hours of the illegally obtained statements more than once. The police ignored them including the one where she clearly wrote she couldn't now who the murderer was because she didn't go back to the cottage that night.

[@robokill387]

Amanda did it, no ifs or bits about it. I don't care what anyone says. All this case proves is that an American white girl can get away with anything if she cries hard enough.

[@mytrip6991]

@@robokill387 In other words, you've formed an opinion solely based on her being 'an American white girl' and it doesn't matter what evidence there is that she's not guilty, you don't care. If you ever sit on a jury, I just pray the defendant isn't "an American white girl".

[@paulsansonetti7410]

​@@mytrip6991Amanda Knox is guilty AF Just because people realize that Karen's often get their way , doesn't mean there wasn't plenty of evidence against Amanda

[@paulsansonetti7410]

​@@mytrip6991 Late in the evening, at 10:40 PM, on November 5, 2007 Raffaele was called to the police station to answer some questions. Amanda tagged along though she wasn’t expected to be there. Soon after being questioned alone, Raffaele admitted that Amanda had put him up to lying and saying that she was with him that whole night. However, this was all “rubbish.” Raffaele then told the police that Amanda had gone out that night and did not return until 1:00 AM. On the night of the murder, both Raffaele and Amanda uncharacteristically turned off their cell phones at approximately 8:45 PM and kept them off until 6:00 AM the following morning. Amanda and Raffaele had told the police that they had slept until 10:30 AM that morning which is a contradiction to Raffaele’s cell phone being turned on at 6:00 AM, another lie. Their cell phone records, changing alibis, and slander establish the fact that Amanda and Raffaele lied multiple times during the investigation. Because of this, nothing they say can be taken at face value.

[@jackm5290]

Finally back from break with a 2 hour ep. Hell yeah

[@faye1482]

Missed you buddy. Glad you're back.

[@imranxalamin]

been listening to this dude since 2016. time goes by so fast

[@jaccusefashion]

All I can say is- Poor Meredith.....and Meredith's Mum and Dad must have felt totally robbed of justice.

[@mytrip6991]

They did feel robbed of justice because they totally accepted what the police and prosecution were telling them which is absolutely normal. Families of victims seldom side with the defense unless the defendant is also a family member/loved one. It's a normal reaction to believe those who are telling you they have identified the one/ones who murdered your loved one. Some families cannot accept a defendant's acquittal even after evidence proves they are innocent.

[@robokill387]

Except Amanda wasn't innocent, she's 110% guilty and got away with murder.

[@mytrip6991]

@@robokill387 Because, according to you in another comment, an "American white girls can get away with anything if she cries hard enough." You've made up your mind and no matter what evidence shows she's not guilty you "don't care".

[@cedrics5241]

Damn.. I was waiting for you. Woo!

[@chesspiece81]

Good Saturday morning Casefile

[@aileenpeak9108]

Amanda comes across as flaky, very flaky

[@mytrip6991]

And?

[@kikibean2024]

Recent sub going through your vids. You are excellent at reporting these cases with truth and empathy. I am now watching the Karen Read trial in Massachusetts USA. WOW! The way the media can be used by the law enforcement and the prosecution has put a lot of people in jail. With the media against you it is more like you are guilty full stop. Thank you for always remembering the victims.

[@chel3SEY]

Knox was rightly acquitted of murder. But regrettable she has profited from the case and enjoyed successes on the back of it given that she falsely accused Patrick Lumumba.

[@mytrip6991]

She was coerced into accusing PL by the police who wrongly believed her text message to him was confirming a meeting later that night. They had already decided they knew what had happened from that text and were hellbent on getting her to sign statements to that effect. Within hours she told the police in writing that she had been scared, exhausted, and confused and that she didn't think that the statements she'd signed was what actually happened. The next day she was even more sure that it did not happen and again told them so in writing. They ignored both and kept PL in jail until forensic evidence and a witness forced them to release him.

[@chel3SEY]

@@mytrip6991 So you say. Doesn't sound remotely convincing to me. Even if she was tired and hungry after a long interrogation, she was not a child (though she often seemed to act like one). Her implication of an innocent man in such a horrific crime cannot be so easily excused as your unconvincing attempt. You make her sound psychotic. More likely she was just trying to throw Lumumba in the line of fire to distract from herself.

[@mytrip6991]

@@chel3SEY It's not what I say; it's what happened. Rita Ficarra, Knox's main interrogator testified in court..which I doubt you've read...that she was scrolling through Knox's phone and found her text to PL: " 'Certo ci vediamo più tardi buona serata!'" (Ok. See you later, have a good night!). Ficarra testified she saw that as Knox meeting up with PL later that night. She testified she asked AK who 'Patrik'(sic) was as his name appeared as the recipient. Knox made NO mention of him before then to Ficarra. Within hours of her arrest, the Chief of Police Arturo de Felice announced to the press: "Initially the American gave a version of events we knew was not correct. She buckled and made an admission of facts we knew were correct and from that we were able to bring them in. They all participated but had different roles." The version of events Knox gave: She was at home with Raffaele all night. So how did the police "know" that was "not correct" as NO forensics test results had yet been reported to them and no witnesses said otherwise. Notice the use of the word "buckle" which means to bend or break UNDER PRESSURE after which she "made an admission" to what De Felice says the police "knew were correct" but they didn't as that NEVER HAPPENED. THEY were the ones insisting to Knox that she took PL there. "More likely she was just trying to throw Lumumba in the line of fire to distract from herself." Illogical. She IMPLICATES herself in a murder instead of sticking to her story that she never went there because she was trying to DISTRACT from herself? The police didn't charge her with being merely being in the kitchen; they charged her with actually helping to hold Meredith down while she was sexually assaulted and then being the one to kill her by sitting on top of her and cutting her throat. But there is not a single piece of evidence that she was even in that room: no DNA, no fingerprints, no bloody shoeprints. CAN YOU EXPLAIN how that could be possible? Guede certainly couldn't avoid leaving all that forensic evidence of his presence in that room.

[@lilovs9952]

@@chel3SEYyour implication on her of such a horrific crime is awful.

[@rogershuttleworth7669]

@@chel3SEY "Even if she was tired and hungry after a long interrogation, she was not a child" She was 20 years old. We can go round in circles with this platitude if you like. But the fact remains that age in coerced false confessions is irrelevant. Anyone regardless of education or age can be grilled into making false statements. This is simply an established fact in science. Her implication of Lumumba took place in an interview that was strangely never recorded despite basic police procedure requiring it. "More likely she was just trying to throw Lumumba in the line of fire to distract from herself." Do you have any evidence for this or this just blind speculation?

[@slwtgf]

I’ve rarely come upon, or seen in regular real life a caring, very beautiful and sophisticated young lady like Meredith. Something about A Knox never ceases to make me instinctively cringe

[@rockstarofredondo]

Weird, hateful thing to say, but ok.

[@deaddropholiday]

The only thing I'm sure of is this case is incomplete. I'm willing to bet that in ten or twenty years we will discover there were elements that were never made public.

[@RGBeanie]

I fear this case is forever staying "not quite" resolved. Rudy definitely did it, but he likely had help. I feel AK and RS are innocent, but someone most likely helped Rudy.

[@Helenwheels370]

There is no evidence of anyone else in that room. It's impossible for anyone to have helped murder Meredith and only one person leave that much forensic evidence.

[@RGBeanie]

@Helenwheels370 uh, yes there is. There were 2 other male dna hits on the bra clasp. It was never established who. Also the injuries to Meredith have a lot of consistency with more than one attacker

[@Helenwheels370]

@@RGBeanie No, the DNA from the two unidentified males on the bra hook were also from contamination. That is not evidence they were IN Kercher's room. Like Sollecito, they were low copy number DNA traces and no other evidence of them is found in that room: no other DNA anywhere, no shoeprints, no fingerprints, nothing. Are you claiming that FOUR men were in that room and that THREE of the four directly touched that one tiny hook? So, if the wounds are consistent with more than one attacker (which isn't true), then where is the forensic evidence of them? You think one young, athletic man with a knife can't inflict 9 knife wounds (most of them nicks). Three knife wounds were defensive wounds on her hands, so they don't count as being inflicted by the killer. The vast number of wounds were scrapes and bruises resulting from the struggle. Only ONE expert testified that ONE person could NOT have murdered Kercher alone. That was the expert hired by Maresca, the lawyer for the Kercher family's civil suit. Several others either testified it WAS one person or could have been one person.

[@bendyloco]

Very good video, thank you!

[@carolinegregorio5444]

Happy happy you're back, Mum, and i listen to your podcast she kept asking when your back lol

[@wwindwwalker3536]

The fact that the police blamed Amanda, I don’t believe for a minute that Amanda committed this crime.

[@ninedaysjane2466]

Many people (particularly in the UK) still believe it. It's nuts.

[@rockstarofredondo]

@@ninedaysjane2466they WANT to believe it, despite there being zero evidence she was involved. Very similar to how people want to believe Chris Watts girlfriend was involved in his crimes despite a total lack of evidence. People often have agendas and being objective is not usually part of that.

[@mytrip6991]

@@rockstarofredondo Absolutely. A big problem is that people form an opinion early on and usually on little knowledge about a case. They remain convinced of that opinion regardless of evidence that later emerges that their opinion is incorrect. People would rather BE wrong than admit they ARE wrong.

[@margaretstewart2575]

Also the British press at the time was a absolute disgrace. There just wasn't enough evidence to conflict Amanda Knox and her boyfriend of murder.

[@kateran3544]

Hurray!! I missed you ❤

[@grzlbr]

Corrections 1. Postal police arrived at 12;57 not 12;35 - proof by garage video 2. Amanda seen bathmat blood after she showered 3. Bra was never cut anywhere, stitching was ripped. 4. Glass was never found on top of "moved" items(crime scene pics), but why would it matter, the burglar is ransacking, bizarre. 5. The rock was the size of a softball 2kilos. 6. No mud was present below the window. 7. Glass was inside below the window can be seen to this day, crime scene pics. 8.Filomena's window was below the road and any headlights. 9. Meredith never complained about Amanda, never happened. 10. RS never changed his story, he was forced to sign a document authored by police. 11. There was no bleach receipt ever found in this case. 12. Police thought RS shoes were a perfect match. 13. All prints found with luminol were unwiped and NEGATIVE for blood. 14. all profiles were omitted except for the five, RG RS AK MK PL 15. It rained on the 30th not Halloween.

[@davidlister7214]

You seem to have read all of the evidence. Quite a few years ago I spent a long weekend reading it all myself. Let me ask you. Do you think Knox/Sollecito were involved?

[@mytrip6991]

"8.Filomena's window was below the road and any headlights." I personally took videos from the parking garage roof across the street of cars driving by at night. Their headlights did NOT illuminate Filomena's window, so I know for a fact that your statement is accurate.

[@Maligroot]

Where have you been, missed you Matey 👍

[@summerwall]

Thank you for the trigger warning, I'll watch a different video of yours and just give this one a like. Really appreciate it 🩷

[@jasonburke9144]

Every time I think my countries legally system is f-ed, I listen to stuff like this.

[@themorgan1111]

What a tragic story, RIP Meredith..she was targeted because of her beauty , theres a world we live in isnt it? just awful xxxxxxxx

[@themorgan1111]

PS glad to see casefile back!!!

[@ninedaysjane2466]

Sex offenders who target women target them because they're women. They don't have to be beautiful.

[@thegreencat9947]

Foxy Knoxy....... says alot.🤔

[@mytrip6991]

Yes, it says she was wily on the football/soccer field. That's why her middle school teammates gave her the nickname. It took a scumbag British tabloid reporter, Nick Pisa, to exploit it.

[@no_peace]

This is infuriating

[@no_peace]

They literally made all that up. When they got proven wrong they made up a new thing. It's disgusting

[@lilianevanfrankrijk7490]

Wow, a rich kid who could go on one of those high school trips to Europe. I used to envy them so much.

[@mytrip6991]

She wasn't a rich kid. She worked 3 jobs to pay for her study in Italy.

[@lilianevanfrankrijk7490]

@@mytrip6991 She did not work three jobs and attend high school simultaneously to pay for the trip sponsored by the high school. I'm not going to listen again but I had the impression she was in 10th grade only. You have to be 16 to get a real job. And three part time jobs would preclude attending high school at the same time in middle class America. If you have a job one summer and another job the next summer and a weekend job during the school year you don't say you worked three jobs or earn that money; another kid who changed employers twice each summer and worked alternate weekends for two stores could truthfully say she worked six jobs. From the narration it sounded as if she went on one of those trips during high school and had already been to Europe with her family before that, being given her own menu by a waiter. I maintain the family had serious excess money and paid for her high school trip to Italy and wasn't she a lucky girl!

[@mytrip6991]

​@@lilianevanfrankrijk7490 1. "She did not work three jobs and attend high school simultaneously to pay for the trip sponsored by the high school. I'm not going to listen again but I had the impression she was in 10th grade only." I never said she was still in high school when she worked. She wasn't. Knox graduated from Seattle Preparatory High School in June, 2005. She turned 19 in July. She went to Italy in the summer of 2007, age 20, after attending one year at UW. She worked the 3 jobs the winter of 2006-2007 and saved $7800. From her book, pg 10: “I’ve done all the math. I can pay for my own food and the extra expenses,” I said. “Remember I worked three jobs this past winter? I put almost all of it in the bank. I’ve got seventy-eight hundred dollars saved up.” 2. "From the narration it sounded as if she went on one of those trips during high school and had already been to Europe with her family before that, being given her own menu by a waiter." If you listen again, starting at :46, they were talking about Meredith, not Amanda. 3. "I maintain the family had serious excess money and paid for her high school trip to Italy and wasn't she a lucky girl!" There was no 'high school trip to Italy' for Amanda. That was Meredith. Amanda's family was middle class.

[@madisonmorell4336]

2024 can finally start now🎉🎉

[@tommyfoley462]

Damien echolls is another one?defo guilty too.damien jason jesse did it

[@KathleenCalhoun-em6ys]

This case is complicated.

[@mytrip6991]

Not really. It's a pretty open and shut case: all the forensic evidence in the bedroom points to only one person: Rudy Guede. If the police had done a competent investigation before jumping to erroneous conclusions and then becoming tunnel-visioned and fixated on Knox and Sollecito, the only person going to trial would have been Guede. Instead, they doubled down and refused to admit they'd got it wrong when they arrested Knox, Sollecito and Lumumba because they were more interested in their Bella Figura (saving face).

[@KathleenCalhoun-em6ys]

@@mytrip6991 I know, but there was a lot to listen to.

[@DannyBoi86]

Don't go to Italy

[@mytrip6991]

Don't go to the US as there are wrongful convictions there, too. /s

[@JimMilton-ej6zi]

I feel like both sides are greatly exaggerated, like the defense is like "they couldn't have happened because she LOVES puppies, kittens and all things sweet" while the accusers are like "it had to have happened hecause she HATES puppies, kittens, and all things sweet" with them both just pointing fingers at things that really don't make any sense. I definitely think all three of them are tangled up in this somehow, but they weren't the hyper-deviants that they mention, though nor were they the innocent happy people that wouldn't hurt a fly either.

[@mytrip6991]

The only person who had a history of criminal behavior like burglary and threatening with a knife was Guede. There is no evidence of Knox or Sollecito being involved in Kercher's murder at all.

[@Jimmytheman1]

I like how the title thumbnail doesn’t mention anything about Amanda Knox…it doesn’t rely on clickbait or sensationalism…

[@ulalaFrugilega]

Me, too. And so does the podcast (where I get my Casefile, before coming here to comment and find opinions.

[@annabasnatural]

Me too because I’m sick of this case being all about Amanda and Meredith gets forgotten

[@dankadesign7462]

True

[@giselleartistalocal]

I like the way you name the victims, instead of the perpetrators. I've seen it in several of your cases and I think it's very respectful. You do a very good job. Thank you for these cases. Best regards.

[@nikiwalkey8114]

YAY, 'The Voice' returns 😁 We missed you 🥰

[@texastea5686]

I was getting nervous!

[@Violet-u4m]

2+ Hour video?!?! What did we do to deserve this?

[@linziwade2529]

Waited 2 months!!!!! I have been refreshing like crazy I gotta get my case file fix!

[@michellerenner6880]

We are in the middle of snowmageddon….

[@loredanadincu4300]

​@linziwade2529 they had a break. Every year they do in the same time period.

[@johnguzman8637]

Pppp😅please l

[@gyrollsphere]

Only waited what felt like 10 years.

[@stevebond7387]

The finest true crime information site, Casefile is the standard by which all podcasts should aspire to. Thank you for the excellent work CF!

[@mytrip6991]

There were many factual errors in this video including: 1) 4:53: Amanda was not "22", she had turned 20 the previous July. 2) 5:33: Meredith did not attend the Univ. for Foreigners; she attended the Univ. of Perugia. Knox attended the Univ. for Foreigners. 3) 10:33: Amanda did not see the blood on the bath mat before taking the shower as claimed here. Amanda reported seeing 3 tiny drops of dried blood on the faucet (not in the sink) and took a shower. She only saw the watery bloody footprint on the bath mat when she stepped out of the shower onto the mat. (See her testimony) 4) 11:27: It wasn't Filomena who "was worried that Meredith might have cut herself and gone out to seek medical care accidentally leaving the front door open behind her", but her friend, Paola Grande, who suggested that to Filomena. (see Filomena's interview with Mignini on Dec 3, 2007 pg. 40) 5) 12:42: "This time Amanda told her someone's been in your room. They smashed your window but it's bizarre it doesn't look like they've taken anything." Amanda never told Filomena that. It was Raffaele who told the police that because Amanda didn't see anything obvious taken, including a valuable camera and laptop in plain sight in Filomena's room. 6)13:07- "at 12:35 p.m. two officers from the postal police arrived at number seven via Dela pergola" This is what the postal police claimed, but the court records show that they arrived AFTER the 112 calls had been concluded at 12:55: the second 112 call at 12:54:39 lasted 57 seconds (Sollecito's cellphone log) so the postal police could NOT have arrived before then at 12:35. Why did the narrator not mention this? Hellmann Report: "There has been much discussion on whether the call to 112 happened before or after the arrival of the Police, with it having been hypothesized by the Public Minister that the call to the Carabinieri at 112 had been made on seeing the arrival of the Police, just to validate the notion [tesi] of their innocence. Except that even the Corte di Assise of first level, on the basis of the testimony given by the on-duty Police personnel and of the times reproduced from the logs, arrived at the conclusion that these calls had been made before the arrival of the Police and unaware of their imminent arrival. 7) 14:16- " but strangely valuable items such as a laptop, gold jewelry, a digital camera and designer sunglasses sat untouched out in the open" No gold jewelry was 'out in the open'. Filomena's jewelry was in box in her nightstand: QUESTION - and then the jewelry was kept where? ANSWER - In a bedside jewelry case in the nightstand. (Romanelli testimony Feb 3, 2009)

[@raradis]

I'm just saying so please hear me out.. there is NO ONE out there (podcast or youtube) who gets to make the story (any story) more interesting than you. I'm talking details, deep dive on the background, flow of info, cadence and.. that voice & accent.. c'mon. Trust me on that, I WAS searching while you were afk :) You're episodes are the GOAT. Thanks a lot and.. I hope to see your channel's 1 milion subs soon! So.. hit that button everybody!

[@MichelleMiller-b4b]

I whole heartedly agree, I love listening to casefile, def one of my favourites, so well done..

[@MR-pv7qg]

Strongly agree 😂

[@BackyardButcher]

💯💯

[@sadiec2701]

Sub button hit! I just watched my first video from this channel a couple of weeks ago and have been playing catch-up since, so happy to be here!

[@TCW1977]

my partner taught Meredith and went to her funeral. My partner is still haunted by her murder.

[@ulalaFrugilega]

Understandable.

[@johneuroguy7674]

Casefile, thank you! Not only a top quality production, with in depth and incisive research ....but also.... no ads!!!! Thanks again!

[@debbiemavin1202]

Can’t believe this well researched channel hasn’t hit a million by now 🤔

[@ulalaFrugilega]

Maybe because it's mainly a podcast?

[@tillitsdone]

It's on just about every podcast hosting service.

[@lilmo9894]

Another great episode guys. Best true crime pod out there that doesn’t make light of the real cases for entertainment. Always expertly researched! So sad that I recognised Amanda Knox’s name from the press at the time, but not the victim’s name in this case.

[@charliekezza]

Same here 😢

[@NinjaStroll]

I think it's absolutely insane that the actual murderer and rapist got only 13 years in prison. Italian justice system massive L

[@yts70r135]

That's so true. They are so bad at investigating. Many cases remain unsolved here

[@JoJoZaka]

The return of the king nvm its broken lol nvm it's fixed

[@texastea5686]

450am, Feb 03 in Texas and I'm here for this!!

[@petroszakhariadis8623]

I have noticed that many have always believed Amanda Knox was guilty, and I have come to the conclusion that all these years later, many STILL believe she was guilty of the horrific crimes, or had some input. And there are so many peeps here in the comments sticking up for Amandas' character, but noone has actually addressed whyyyyyy she initially implicated the bar owner at the beginning of the investigation, and later retracted it. THATTTTT fact alone has made me feel quite uneasy with her her character and testimony.

[@dsugar120]

Really? In all of your readings on this murder you have never seen the words "internalized false confession", or anyone pointing out that when Amanda and Raffaele were "interviewed" that all of the cops forgot to press the record button resulting in no recordings of Amanda or Raffaele's interrogations. In my readings, I have seen extensive discussion on why Amanda would falsely accuse her former boss.

[@petroszakhariadis8623]

@@dsugar120 no matter the reasons, NO ONE would EVER falsely accuse another innocent person for murder. regardless, she is to this day, due to face court in 2024 for "slandering" the bar owner, which I think is rightly so. If someone accused meeeeee of such murder, i would do everything, like Patrick, the bar owner, to bring this Amanda to face justice for such an atroscious accusation

[@dsugar120]

@@petroszakhariadis8623 Please do me a favour and read the following: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_confession, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk_Four, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case. The West Memphis Three, Norfolk Four, and the Central Park Five are cases where innocent suspects falsely accused other innocent people. Once you agree that false accusation happen, and are unfortunately more common than one would have thought, you can objectively look at why Amanda may have accused an innocent man.

[@dsugar120]

@@petroszakhariadis8623 Please do me a favour and read the following: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_confession, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Memphis_Three, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norfolk_Four, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Park_jogger_case. The West Memphis Three, Norfolk Four, and the Central Park Five are cases where innocent suspects falsely accused other innocent people. Once you agree that false accusation happen, and are unfortunately more common than one would have thought, you can objectively look at why Amanda may have accused an innocent man.

[@dsugar120]

@@petroszakhariadis8623 Please do me a favour and read the following: false confessions, West Memphis Three, Norfolk Four, Central Park Five. The West Memphis Three, Norfolk Four, and the Central Park Five are cases where innocent suspects falsely accused other innocent people. False confessions, including ones that the suspect accuses other innocents (because that's what the police interrogators are looking for) happen more often than we think. Once you agree that false accusation happen, and are unfortunately more common than one would have thought, you can objectively look at why Amanda may have accused an innocent man.

[@jolene59901]

One of many qualities which I appreciate on this channel is the time that is given to the person murdered by the maniac. I have seen numerous documentaries signing the praises of A.K. Onl her I have learned anything about Meredith Kercher.

[@ninedaysjane2466]

I've never heard anyone "singing the praises" of Amanda Knox, except the poor Italian guy who was in love with her. She just isn't guilty, no matter how much you want her to be.

[@rockstarofredondo]

@@ninedaysjane2466thank you. These people are deranged. Knox has been through years of worldwide slander, bullying and abuse and the gaslighting of the OP’s comment is just unreal. How do they sleep at night?

[@honeybadger3570]

​@@ninedaysjane2466 Where did OP say they thought AK was guilty? Don't manipulate someone's statement to fit your negative soul. Stating they've only heard about Amanda Knox all of this time and expressing appreciation for now getting to hear about Meredith doesn't imply they think AK is guilty. What kinda twisted delusions creates your logic?

[@honeybadger3570]

​@@rockstarofredondo​ Thank you? 😳 *Calling people derogatory names for their observations is deranged.* Just because you don't prefer the group of words they chose "singing praises" does not make OP deranged and it's unfortunate you're not ashamed of yourself for saying so. I don't know how old you are but I lived through this case in real time when it occurred and there absolutely WAS a lot of social outcry *across the world* for a looong time, including many expressing praise for A.K bc she was being falsely charged with mrdr - ofc there were tons to people "singing her praise" bc they were trying to show the world she was innocent... Bc of that, Meredith and her life lost so tragically seemed to have been forgotten, not mentioned, no longer part of her own story bc of how the police handled the case and how they treated A.K. OP stating what their experience has been with this case being focused on AK all these years, and being appreciative of finally learning about Meredith is a very normal, decent, human thing to do. Criticizing that, is deranged

[@ulalaFrugilega]

I like that, too, it's typical for Casefile and the reason why I consider it by a very wide margin the best true crime outlet anywhere.

[@arenabreakoutgameplay1]

Yaaaa! We've missed this voice! 🎉🎉🎉

[@Shadmockk]

This entire case is such a cluster fuck

[@Outcry4truth]

Welcome back Casefiles Presents. What a long wait but worth it. I swear we don't deserve Casefiles 😅

[@truthylucy7068]

Yes! Casfile has a new video! The best true crime narrarator on YT! 😊

[@MeghanBean]

WE MISSED YOU :))

[@SuperStrik9]

Casefiles is back! 🕵‍♂👍

[@naomiledger1374]

Great coverage of this unbelievable case. The attitude of the Italian police and prosecution team was beyond words, just appalling. And the sloppiness of the investigation at the crime scene was shocking. Hats off the the defence team though, picking their way through the chaos and duplicitous 'evidence' presented to them. It feels like there's still nothing absolutely conclusive but, short of being able to preserve the crime scene and correctly collect the evidence all over again, it seems likely that they got their man in Rudy G. I did wonder about Rudy G's guilt after it was stated that Meredith could have defended herself against one attacker and therefore there must have been more, but then I remembered that she was exhausted at the time so perhaps could have more easily been overpowered by just one individual. One thing is certain though, it appears ridiculously easy to skew how the 'evidence' of a case will be perceived which seems to have been expertly done by the prosecution and Italian police, as I too was initially convinced, on what was being fed to us by the media, of Knox's guilt. What a nightmare for all involved, excepting the guilty party, of course.

[@rockstarofredondo]

Men can easily overpower women, karate training or not. People who have never been in actual fights or sparred in some sort of training really overestimate “karate” and other bogus martial arts, so it’s being brought up like it means something when it really doesn’t. It’s not going to give her any kind of advantage over a crazed criminal with a knife, probably high on drugs.

[@BrennaDraws]

Karate isn’t practical. It’s for choreographic sparring. I’m an actual fight it isn’t going to help you much beyond having taught you to punch properly.

[@mytrip6991]

Women are overpowered by single attackers hundreds of times every single day of the year around the world. The most common excuse that she couldn't have been is that she "knew karate". No, she didn't. She had a beginner's orange belt which is totally useless in defense.

[@ulalaFrugilega]

To those putting karate as a means for defense, I say: correct. But it does make one strong. And fear for your life will also make one strong. And what about the evidence proving that she was held tight by the wrists with two hands while being stabbed (I heard that elsewhere). Anyway, glad this is not my life, neither of those. Sad for an obviously very nice young person's life being gone for kicks and fun, as I perceive it.

[@mytrip6991]

@@ulalaFrugilega Kercher only had beginner's orange belt according to her father. Useless for defense. "And what about the evidence proving that she was held tight by the wrists with two hands while being stabbed (I heard that elsewhere)." Be careful relying on what you 'hear' anywhere unless it's a credible source backed up with evidence. In this case, it's not. The pathologists' reports mention no bruises on her wrists but bruises on face, neck, left elbow, right forearm, right hand, left thigh, right shin, over both iliac crests of the pelvic bone, vaginal area and skull. See Drs. Lalli's and Cingolani's reports. ' very nice young person's life being gone for kicks and fun, as I perceive it." Your perception is not based on the evidence. Can you explain how 3 people could participate in a violent, hand-on sexual assault and murder and only ONE of them leave multiple pieces of forensic evidence behind? Only Guede left his DNA in several place including Kercher's body, bra, jacket and in Kercher's blood on her purse, his fingerprint in her blood, his shoeprints in her blood.

[@amandasiddle6571]

Welocme back missed Casefile so much and thanku xx

[@vaiscilia]

Oh!!!! My favourite bro is back ..i was waiting like hell for you bro❤

[@alexiswhitman6646]

This case is unfortunate. Regardless who did it, every single person involved behaved strangly. Even if Amanda is innocent, you cant help but wonder why was her behavior so weird? and why were the police acting off of an incling instead of actual evidence? There are so many questions, and all their lives are clearly intertwined with eachother in a way that we clearly do not know. Im not saying i know who did it, but i do think that the whole story isnt being told.

[@chriscavy]

How is this the best documentary on Meredith's case that's out there? It's fantastic

[@mytrip6991]

It's full of factual errors.

[@chriscavy]

@@mytrip6991 Can you point me to a better one?

[@mytrip6991]

@@chriscavy I wish I could but they all have errors, some worse than others. The trouble is that most of them are getting their information from other videos or off the internet and not from the court records. They often have little understanding of how the Italian justice system works when it comes to definitive judgments and judicial facts or what DNA can and can't tell us. Even the books on the case, almost all written before the final 2015 SC annulment or even before 2013, contain errors. Among the absolute worst are those 'online only' books (and I hate to even use that word for them) by Nick Van der Leek and the one by Barbie Nadeau who are both notoriously pro-guilt and error ridden. I'd suggest reading Amanda's and Raffaele's books as they are, at least, written by the two who experienced it. I do know that those who are pro-guilt will just claim the books are self-serving. As far as videos, stay away from "body language" experts who spout nonsense like the Behavior Panel. Scientific studies have shown it's unreliable and no more accurate at detecting deception than chance. But the worst of the worst videos are those by Robert Glass. She's absolutely nuts and she makes the most outrageous false and disproven claims. She's one of the worst pushers of misinformation and downright lies on the internet on this case.

[@Lauraliemilee]

Over 20,000 views..and only 672 likes??? C'mon people tap the like button!!! 👍

[@Fallen_Venus]

I still have doubts about Knox. Or maybe I just don't like her personality that much.

[@christopherhorn1161]

Literally have DNA evidence of who did it...not Amanda

[@alexbennet4195]

@@christopherhorn1161they literally concluded that he didn’t act alone?

[@zahra9892]

Welcome back case file

[@danrobinson572]

Fantastic 2 hours now my Saturday morning is off to a great start. Especially the first video of 2024 is a treat.

[@Alltheworldneedsajolt]

Love the perspective on this case! It’s so good to finally hear about Meredith. Even here in the UK at the time, the focus was all on Knox, and it was easy to miss that the poor victim was a British girl.

[@mytrip6991]

How could anyone miss the fact that Meredith was from the UK? Almost every account, if not all accounts, in the media included that fact. It was why the story was so big in the UK. If Guede's victim had been any nationality but British, the story would have been a small blurb on page 4 for a day.

[@antonkovalenko364]

I remember the news coverage on this case. What a convoluted mess.

[@Flanneryschickens]

What a terrible story on so many levels

[@cynthiagibson6793]

Then who threw the rock and why?

[@mytrip6991]

Rudy Guede threw it from the parking parapet which was a few feet directly across from the window. It reflected a break-in at a law office earlier (second story rock thrown through window). Guede was caught by the police red-handed with a cell phone and laptop stolen from that office in his backpack just a few days before the murder.

[@AlexApger]

the fact that the guy who did this only got 16 years is insane.

[@ninedaysjane2466]

That's the true injustice here, but too many people are obsessed with proving Amanda Knox guilty.

[@rockstarofredondo]

The fact that the Italian police and courts tried to cover up that he actually did it and went after 2 innocent bystanders is what’s most insane.

[@laural3738]

I don't Know wether Amanda Knox is guilty or not. But I know that when this heinous crime happened in the house where she was living the first thing she did when speaking to the police was blaming a black person she knew in Perugia that had absolutely nothing to do with the crime and now she is even an 'activist for the wrongly accused'. This is ridicoluos beyond any reasonable doubt.

[@loredanadincu4300]

I thought it was someone else with the same name when I searched and saw the word activist next to it. What a joke. And that person that supposedly killed Meredith couldn't have entered the house without a key , or let by someone with a key in. They said from the beginning that there was no forced entry and that the window that was broken was smashed after the killing took place. The other tenants had solid alibies, and I doubt Meredith would have left the dude in like he supposedly said. By how Amanda reacted in the beginning, it's obvious she knew more than she let out.

[@laural3738]

@@loredanadincu4300 yes, she acted like she was hiding the truth since the beginning. And it's not just a story that was made up by the media, these are facts documented in police reports and interrogation. The hypothesis of the defense that Raffaele's DNA was transferred to the bra clasp by contamination because he was the one that smashed down Meredith door and due to the movement of people in the room in the following days is far less likely than the prosecutors hypothesis that DNA was here because Raffaele actually touched the clasp to stretch it behind the back of Meredith before cutting it with the knife, that also explains why the DNA was inside the bra on the clasp and not outside. The bra wasn't normally undressed, it was cut with a knife that was put between Meredith's back and the bra and then pulled strongly cutting the bra.

[@suzannah991]

​@@loredanadincu4300oh lord 🙄

[@loredanadincu4300]

@suzannah991 What's up with the rolling eyes emoji . If you have a problem with my comment, you should have come with real arguments in the reply you posted, not with puerile stuff.

[@simon01ize]

There is overwhelming evidence that shows that all three people, Guede, Knox, and Sollecito were there when the crime happened. Forensic evidence in regard to DNA, via blood and other materials mixed with Meredith's. A big clean up was done, lies upon lies, etc. In the end a lot of money and a big PR campaign that involved politicians from the US got Knox out. Sollecito had more than enough connections. Guede was definitely there, but may not have killed her.

[@Andrew-ri5qo]

Missed you. Best true crime podcast out there 👏

[@marcopetaccia88]

Really well done

[@ladyjenny1746]

Thank God you boys are back. I've missed you all!

[@masudashizue777]

So many suspects....and only one culprit.

[@LucyElizabeth83]

So happy to see a new upload!

[@anthonysawyer9140]

Yesssssssssss !!!!! We've missed you !!!

[@LiMaM93]

What a mess. Rest in peace Meredith 🕊

[@ladysatana666-l-9]

Stellar content as always!!!! Much 💜!

[@huntlife]

Great video. That crime is suspicious in that they, Amanda and bf, may indeed be involved.

[@rockstarofredondo]

Literally zero evidence of that whatsoever.

[@alexbennet4195]

@@rockstarofredondoliterally evidence of that lmao

[@hilarywallace3007]

Media and gossips have a lot to be guilty of.

[@mariapower9979]

CF....as always, you are the BEST!!!!!💝

[@nicola4894]

Yay...ur back.! .missed u on a saturday...Hope alla ok with u.? Great vid..thnku ❤

[@makpusak1897]

OMG I had missed Casefile soooo much! This is incredible!

[@ValenciasMom]

Omg yes!!!! Thank you! I’ve been waiting!

[@danmac73]

Oh good, you're back 😃

[@billesommer4636]

That someone could have used gloves 🤧

[@MsHburnett]

Hey you are back. Happy new year ° NZ

[@dawnhall4001]

Nicely done 😊

[@Ghost_Rider_786]

I remember this tragic case because Meredith was from the UK ....really sad story ....Amanda was and is innocent ...Italy is an amazing country - BUT the COPS are corrupt and useless - I got pulled over in Rome by a couple of cops who initially spoke Italian with me ...as SOON as they found out I was from the UK ...They took my license and disappeared for 20 mins before returning with a 60 Euro fine ... It went down hill from there ...I eventually got away from these vile corrupt people .. luckily it was not an on the spot fine :) - Needless to say I did NOT pay :) ... They got my home address from the car hire company ..and kept sending fines ...but by then I had cancelled my credit card :) - So they can whistle for the fine :) - If you ever drive in Italy ...be VERY CAREFUL .. They have hidden camera's specifically located to - ENTRAP unsuspecting drivers ...especially - TOURIST

[@Kayla11113]

They ought to do something about all the pickpockets and scammers.

[@Ghost_Rider_786]

@@Kayla11113 Doing that will not raise any money for the local governments - The hidden taxes on unsuspecting drivers fills the coffers of the local politicians ....its a well known secret ....

[@emmaonthefarm1085]

Thankyou casefile ❤

[@StarChild1884]

Hooray! Finally a new vid 😀

[@MR-pv7qg]

At last 😅

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

Lol sorry a woman knowing karate still wouldn't make them be able to fight off a man

[@texastea5686]

I agree. Im a 47 year old mom to an 18 year old son. He's 6'3" and does NOT work out, but boy, is he stronger than me! And I work out occasionally and lift weights. The only way I can beat him is by tickling him lol but seriously, I hate to say it, but if a man wants to attack a woman, he'll always win =(

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

@texastea5686 Don't be upset about it, Male's and Females have their positives and negatives. I'm 6'4" and solid so I know what you mean 😁 Remember, most men don't go around abusing women, but there are sick people out there, and there's no laws that can stop sick people being sick.

[@texastea5686]

​@handlethis81 it's just a sad world.... a woman can practice martial arts and self defense, but it really doesn't matter in the end.... and I agree 100%, not all men are going out looking to hurt women!

[@PoetofHateSpeech]

@texastea5686 I don't understand why you think it's a sad world because men are physically stronger. Women abuse men in different ways. I was someone who suffered every type of abuse as a child, and I'll take physical abuse over emotional and mental any day. I could say it's unfair that women are "better" at the last two. Men are at much higher risk of being victims of violence. Nothing is fair and never will be in the world.

[@EllenLeah-pv2yw]

94% of murders are committed by men. Just fyi. And a _vastly_ disproportionate number of women who commit murder have a long history of abuse leading up to their crime. Just some basic stats.

[@katrinafoster7908]

So happy your back ❤

[@diegorivera6500]

Really good podcast, you can see you have done your research unlike other criminal profilers and crime YTbers with the regular A. Knox hoaxes. 👏

[@Ирина-ш1й7й]

Thank you for coming back!

[@wandacrowell6766]

Excellent!

[@gemmabutler3491]

😢