The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 517 | Protecting Energy

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The crew kicks things off by acknowledging the maturation of Nicki Minaj and Joe's friendship after their recent interview (5:44). Next, they dive into the Jussie Smollett sentencing (13:10) and an update on Chris Brown's alleged allegations (28:06). A ton of highly anticipated music dropped from artists, including Lucky Daye (30:48), Lil Durk (41:56), and Benny the Butcher (48:06). Royce Da 5'9. Joins the podcast to discuss Slaughterhouse (50:36), Ryan Coogler was accused of a bank robbery attempt (1:51:30), and MORE!
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[@AliFrankTheTank]

“Did you like Crooked Pants ???” “This is taxpayers problems here… how much them vehicles cost?” 😂😂😂😂😂😂 Royce was wylin

[@Messiah_Black]

Fuckin savage, I’m dead☠️🤣

[@TeefyStark]

Let's be clear! There isn't a single Slaughterhouse fan that FORGOT ABOUT Slaughterhouse.

[@TheMoirLabel]

1000%

[@solosindicate6000]

Hip hop fan they were like the first new age super group fr

[@SourD72]

Mal just hate joe lol even Rory couldn’t side with them. Again mal shows he has zero business acumen when it comes to actually doing BIG business. All of his stances be based off emotion

[@draenation265]

@@SourD72 Yup. And honestly if you pay attention to Rory and Mal show a lil bit, you can tell Joe and Rory might still talk. Mal let his emotions cloud his judgment. It dont matter what information come out, Mal riding against Joe. Listening to Mal have no kind of objectivity aint new tho. He the same when he fuck with people tho. He'll never have any criticism for JayZ or Drake.

[@Ontheish]

@@SourD72 true

[@jonathanaragon5819]

Joe making jokes really shows a side I didn't expect. I expected him to be angry after royce expressed how hurt he was. You can tell Joe really cared about royce and wanted to cheer him up and not hype him up.

[@ducekong7878]

Yes men

[@dominicthelordkabinga]

Sometimes people crack jokes to keep from crying.

[@thehandleisuseless]

Joe put Royce in this situation and kept making jokes and laughing while royce pours his heart out. Joe is the most toxic human I've ever seen in the industry

[@jonathanaragon5819]

@@thehandleisuseless you almost got me troll. No one is this dumb lol you funny enjoy your day

[@awalovettepeter8099]

@@thehandleisuseless Shut-up fo ol!!

[@chaunceyvasquez9033]

Royce has the audacity to talk about someone’s pants while sitting there wearing a denim onesie! 😂

[@Sincere4Eva]

😂😂😂🤮

[@queensadorned]

😂😭😭😭

[@chrisstevens2108]

😂😂😂🎯🎯🎯

[@solarblitz4524]

🤣🤣🤣💀

[@colincampbell7227]

Facts😂😂😂😂

[@devstuff92]

Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse is 🔥🔥

[@1starstarstar]

There’s a reason Royce and joe get along so well it’s cuz Royce is the same person but just calmer 😂

[@user-qf2fm2rj7w]

I agree. Leaches.

[@MrRhafootage282]

Just more G

[@dazza818]

both had addiction issues.

[@MrRhafootage282]

They all did

[@TGUTTAExiT21]

Pretty much

[@danman462]

That line Royce was saying about respect was real..about if you have respect for me and see me standing next to someone you trying shoot, then wait, don’t shoot that bullet.

[@willt8848]

Respect is a two way and street and it's clear Royce and Joe never respected Crook and Joell as equals

[@bigtemperancelithousex9036]

Period

[@OGkingplex]

@@willt8848 how the hell you get that from this bruh? They’re all misunderstood due to lack of communication and that’s it. If they were all in the same room, I guarantee it’d be all love, even if they chose to go their separate ways.

[@willt8848]

@@OGkingplex Royce is on the pod talking about people can die and suggesting violence or did they edit that out the KZbin version? Does that sound like all love to you? You're living in fucking fantasy land dawg. The shit is done for good. These dudes haven't been friends in a long ass time.

[@BKbomber92]

@@willt8848 he didnt say anything about being violent or killing them it was an example..yall be on here makin up wild assumptions with a lack of comprehension

[@RL_Sin]

Royce & Joe Begin 52:15 The Rise & Fall of Slaughter House Convo

[@RealDonfromBroward]

Scrolling through the comments for this and was about to give up all hope. Then here you come in all your glory saving the mf day. Salute.

[@RL_Sin]

@@RealDonfromBroward Damn, I'm surprised it wasn't at the top. I thought it was bonkos no1 else posted it, since I watched it the next day usually them podcasts fans are on that shit fast.

[@lifeisgreat4220]

Ish and Ice played their position very well by keeping their mouths shut during the slaughterhouse convo 😂😂😂

[@briccs3830]

yeah they dont want that smoke

[@ShawnDee]

SlaughterHalf at this point.

[@hennyNight]

You see Royce came at Mal lol they must’ve forgot who Royce is

[@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851]

@@hennyNight An emotional dude

[@malikeltheos5509]

@@ShawnDee "Slaughter-apartment." lol

[@artrome985]

Funny how Crook and Joell state that Royce and Joe look at them like they aren't equals and then Royce gonna say "sign over your rights and I'm a show you how you 2 would not be missed"... Exactly proving their point🤷🏽‍♂️

[@therobmc18]

Or it could mean that Royce is willing to do whatever hard work that is needed to keep the Slaughterhouse brand going without them. They said they wanna be done with it and Royce is saying do that legally foreal if you want it out your life.

[@Kiki-xx3fj]

Exactly!!! And I’m still struggling to understand how Royce is so offended and hurt by Joell and Crook putting out this album but was silent when Joe kept going off on Eminem a few years ago.

[@artrome985]

@@therobmc18 I know what he said. Point to still valid. But it's also funny that NOW you wanna do whatever you keep the brand smdh🤦🏽‍♂️

[@therobmc18]

@@artrome985 not funny for those two to destroy what they all created as a whole group without the consent of the other two just to get a check.

[@artrome985]

@@therobmc18 lol, there was a deal presented, Joe said no and Royce said he ain't doing it without joe, and it's been this way for over a DECADE! That is not destroying the brand??? GTFOH and now they butt hurt that these 2 decided to let the fans know why they haven't got anything from Slaughterhouse this entire time. Where was this energy for the past 10 years? Or even the past year that they got the brand off shady (Joe's request by the way) and he still didn't wanna do shit. He even said in a interview like 3 years ago that once they get off shady he down to put work in but when that time comes you don't

[@ellisf5013]

Mal was speaking from a point of a person that actually knows these people. Joe said the same thing Mal has said. He dosen't look at them as friends. Why is Royce so emotional about that. If multiple people talk about how Joe treats them in a negative manner maybe it's Joe 🤷🏿‍♂️

[@warjjaugust]

I didn't even hear Mal say anything that could be considered as bitter. People are tripping. And It's crazy that Joe doesn't think it's cool for Crook and Joel to do a project without all the people that built it together, but when Mal's stance was, how are you going to pod without all 3 of us, he thought Mal was nuts.

[@ellisf5013]

@@warjjaugust people just want to agree with Joe. Plenty of times Joe showed what he thinks of the people around him. Mal was the person in recent history to talk about it. Joe spoke on them for multiple episodes and made it seemed like he was in the right. He rather have yes men around.

[@joeadkins338]

At least it's people like us that see through his bullshit, it's all about what he can gain. Fans, SH, and these three gentlemen are all disposable for him to gain that.

[@zakmohamed1140]

@@warjjaugust Well Slaughterhouse is 4 members. JBP is Joe first then everybody else 2nd. And nah, Joe's stance was he's not doing an album with Shady, it was Royces stance that he won't do an album without Joe. Crook and Joell don't have that loyalty towards the group at all

[@jeromelindsay5954]

Ill admit i kinda wanted some carnage 😂🤣🤣😂😂😂😂 real talk joe handles this better than i thought he would and mire authentic in his articulation of his gripe......... Im around for this

[@alonzox5420]

That’s only cuz Royce was around lol

[@jeromelindsay5954]

@@alonzox5420 big facts lol

[@steveb703]

@@alonzox5420 right he didn’t have to go “joe” cuz Royce was there to b the bad cop so he was able to chill,laugh,deescalate and downplay it lol genius 🤔🤣🤣

[@alonzox5420]

@@steveb703 lol exactly

[@LS-Vision]

You can tell Royce meant every word of what he said

[@Subs1338]

Doesnt mean he is right. Conspirasy theorists believe every word they say too.

[@kevthepoet]

@@Subs1338 He's not right. Complaining that Joell and Crooked didn't go harder after complaining that Mickey and Lupe went too hard? Hypocrite. After Royce talked to Lupe and Mickey in a disrespectful way as if they were no threat and then they spit and he got really upset as if... they were a threat. Let them cook him properly and he'll be whining like he was whining at Lupe. Royce is wrong when he says he wanted them to go harder and Royce is wrong when he says Crook and Joe aren't in his league.

[@Commercialgymlifter]

*His panties in a bunch lol. He lying thru his fake teeth*

[@PardonMyPresence]

@@kevthepoet it's funny that pre Lupe diss y'all would SWEAR by Royce's skills and resume. But because he chose not to engage in beef and supports Joe he's wack and drops 10 spots on the MC list. Y'all act like females

[@kevthepoet]

@@PardonMyPresence nah, Royce has one of the best pens ever but the way he treated Lupe before and after the track lost my respect for him as a man, not as a rapper. Like Game can rap but he does so much cornball shit off the mic I will never listen to a Game album.

[@d-rokmusic1619]

Royce hating Crook’s pants is hilarious

[@Keith_Courage]

Royce's words hit different anyone can relate being betrayed by a supposed brother it will crush your spirit

[@patrickwoods1053]

How was he betrayed?

[@thatdrakeSteve]

They betrayed slaughter house

[@thatdrakeSteve]

They raped together without Royce on Ems last album like c'mon Royce playing they don't need Joe he said countless times he retired !

[@j.e3336]

@@patrickwoods1053 Joel and Crook went behind they back and lied to the people that Joe and Royce didnt want to do the album because Joe retired and Royce only like Joe, like some females. Joe said like 20 times (But no ones cares because people dont like him) that he would rap if lables werent involved, and then Joel and Crook offered him deals with labels and got surprised when he said no. Crook said himself he needed a check and was mad that Joe didnt need one, so they went and created a secret album and painted a picture as if Joe and Royce were never gonna do the album.

[@Keith_Courage]

@@j.e3336 exactly joe offered to fund the project only expecting to re-coup moneys spent but crook needed money and an advance

[@biffskywalker4589]

Lupe ate Royce’s food. The only thing I wanna hear from Royce is him admitting he got cooked or him going at Lupe until he redeems himself. Which he won’t, so he should be quiet.

[@daddywalker6133]

And Mickey factz lol

[@KhaosMatador]

Y'all wild for this perspective man. Respect, because I love Lupe but Silence of the Lambda was master class

[@biffskywalker4589]

@@KhaosMatador no no no

[@kaysha]

Blessings to everyone watching 💯

[@jaevothesummoner]

Blessing reciprocated my friend

[@overthemountains7207]

@@positivevibez328 1 Peter 5:8 Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.

[@kthagetaway]

🤜🏽🤜🏽

[@b.o.1951]

Same to you 🙏🏾

[@RB82684]

Definitely should make jussie the liar in every show

[@EffectiveFitness]

I love Royce So much. Royce Needs to be a regular on the JBN. He's the X factor.

[@swagggagonzalez9589]

he loves u too

[@TheMoirLabel]

@@swagggagonzalez9589 I Don't know why that was so funny!

[@SourD72]

Idk bout all that but great guest for this episode

[@EffectiveFitness]

@@swagggagonzalez9589 sus

[@mega2028]

Royce said "Mal keep that energy away from me* lol

[@crushycrush3270]

I have watched the "did you like Crooked pants?" part a thousand times 🤣🤣

[@danielodia7027]

Was I the only one who fast forward to Royce's part??😂

[@downrightfiercerare1565]

Nope.

[@juliussmith5866]

Definitely Wasn’t lol

[@CruzTVNYC]

Joe Budden podcast getting more views if anything they should be thanking joell and crooked

[@anthonyjackson1938]

I hear all that... But that rise and fall off slaughterhouse album hard👍🏾💯

[@Beatbanguni]

Regardless of how Joe and Royce feel, the album is fire thou 🔥🔥🔥

[@BigO355]

Really? I mean I agree if it’s 2014

[@Beatbanguni]

@@BigO355 it's 2022 if you need a reminder

[@leograyify]

Album was fire, no bias 2022 or not.

[@Messiah_Black]

It’s not a bad album, but would’ve been just as good w/ different content. They didn’t need to set Slaughterhouse on fire to make a dope project.

[@jamessummers5936]

@@Messiah_Black They needed to set it on fire because they're both done with it. "I'm a new man with an old lighter, I'll burn this bitch down." - Crook

[@realtizzle9737]

That “pause” was f**kin classic 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@USMC_Veteran-Doc]

What pause?

[@TheRealAwestBeats]

Royce not responding to Lupe turned the fans against Royce. Joe's constant "I'm retired, I don't rap anymore" turned fans against Joe. Joell & Crook album is a result of slaughterhouse not being active & fans waiting for a reunion that's never going to happen.

[@APJDFSONLY]

Nobody cares about Lupe

[@Okkotsu86275]

@@APJDFSONLY That's not true

[@Subs1338]

Royce turned the fans against Royce lol. Joe burning bridges turned fans against Joe.

[@joeadkins338]

@@Subs1338 correct

[@tyronjasonhuff]

@@joeadkins338 yea man we can see now...

[@wade2ndboy]

I understand the salt....but that album was 🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@shenellrichardson4936]

Naw I did like it 😂

[@strengthandhonor9334]

It was good asf.

[@realtizzle9737]

That “pause” was fuckin classic 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@g.hollis1785]

Hate seeing Royce this upset man. It's clear he put a lot into the group as a whole and the friendships involved with the group. Dude is understandably hurt. Royce and Crook was the glue I guess!

[@DubYaJsWorld]

Yeah everything but an album

[@g.hollis1785]

@@DubYaJsWorld can't argue with that statement fam. It's sad everybody knows that Joe is done except Royce. Smh Joe ain't rapping no time soon

[@mastabeta85]

Lupe is the ghost that perpetually haunts Royce's mind...

[@tyronjasonhuff]

That part

[@Jehu_Adonai]

Crook & Joell rapped they ass off on that project, they definitely hating & it definitely riled them up cus no way in hell they gon make Crook seem like he awalk in the park when he used to slaughter them on almost every Slaughterhouse track

[@tadah21]

Actually what made slaughterhouse so respected was there was no weak links at the time they all were prolific rappers/writers. Damn shame they couldn't of made 2-3 classic albums. Bad business ruined them not there friendships or respect for one another skillset. That BET Cypher still the best till this day!

[@howardlewis9727]

Nobody want it with Crook 💯

[@fairplayterrific147]

@Swag Guffington It's Called Wordplay... Are You A Fan Of Pharoahe Monch, Lupe Fiasco Or MF DOOM?

[@CheckmateRidRot502]

@@tadah21 wasn't bad business , was bad chemistry and nobody willing to admit it. They where 4 people in a studio and they made 'welcome to our house' themselves and it didn't hit like they thought. You cannot blame anybody for that, royce already said eminem didn't have much to do with the finished project. Joe managed to alienate 2 members and complained throughout his whole time there. People need to accept they just didn't click as a group.

[@WeBombFirst]

@Swag Guffington crazy statement listen to life as a bandana and come back with that same energy

[@georgebell9634]

I'm amazed at how sensitive royce is being, especially when he's always passive aggressively sneak dissing people

[@emushow9315]

People like you dont get it.Its called growing up and integrity aka standing for what you believe

[@godsend9545]

I know Royce, nothing about him is passive! U just dont know how to read us. Most gangtas out the D our age act just like him. Our names mean shit

[@ycthedon1]

FU

[@zabadyah]

This is why my appreciation for THE LOX goes up. They truly the greatest hip-hop group ever.

[@JDean-oe1ux]

AND they grew up together

[@ChillyChav]

Its different when your from the same cloth. They gotta go home and still see each other. The slaughterhouse members live in 4 different states.

[@thegr8one572]

SOM is the greatest hip hop group ever 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@zabadyah]

@@thegr8one572 who🤔

[@edwinrodriguez7933]

@@zabadyah that's what I'm saying,..Who?? 🤣😂🤣

[@khadijahjones2460]

Thanks JBP, I’ve been able to get through my gym sessions with your podcasts.

[@stephonvalentino7020]

Same ! Especially the compilations.

[@tekkadawn6685]

No Jumper too

[@firstname2022]

Same

[@vikkyrozay]

Nigga u gyming for 2.5hrs?!

[@khadijahjones2460]

@@vikkyrozay lol no it usually takes me 2 days to finish an episode. If not that means I’m also listening in the car there and back

[@mlking213]

Royce was here to get his shit off and budden was playing it cool lmao what a reversal. I never seen Royce talk so much in my life and it took joell saying rocket launcher to do it.

[@draenation265]

Hell yea. They cleared out the paint for Royce

[@HibiscusDonkey]

Royce on live always talking shit. He ain’t getting on wax cause Lupe already tore that nigga up and he tried to take the high road. Thats why I don’t respect Royce.

[@thehandleisuseless]

Joe disrespected Royce during this whole Ordeal more than Joell & Crook did

[@JohnnyClaymore]

What was the rocket launcher line about ?

[@L1am21]

There is a video of Royce replying to benziono who put a clip in a gun when threatening Royce. In the vid Royce clowns benziono pulling out lots diff guns ending with a rocket launcher lol

[@rayhan3654]

How can Royce and Joe not understand the frustration of Joell and Crooked? It's been 10 years since their album released. Joe has created a successful podcast that takes a lot of his time and has publicly announced his retirement from rap. Royce is literally best friends with the most successful rap artist *of all time* and therefore always has the opportunity for a Collab album with Em or at the very least features. Shit, Em's even gave Royce production credits on his recent album; financially he is incredibly secure. On top of this, Royce has disagreed the idea of a slaughterhouse trio -- this puts the situation at a deadlock. What do you guys want Joell and Crooked to do? Wait another 10 years? Furthermore, let's not forget Joe's antics when it comes to contracts. He sold out his own homies (Mal and Rory) on this very podcast, so why is he acting like he has an unshakeable integrity? Joe also went back against the Shady deal despite all other members being happy with the terms. And finally, this idea of self-funding would just be a nightmare with Joe ... He'd clearly want the lion share of the deal cos it'll be promoted by his platform. The album was fire. Clearly they had something to say and they were able to package it up with honesty. Royce saying that it was garbage proves that he isn't judging this shit objectively.

[@Pikachuvs50Cent]

“Did you see Crookeds pants in the video” - Royce 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@cesheph]

Just a side note Royce making fun of Crook pants and he in here looking like denim Jason in that outfit 🤣 Royce Crook Joell Joe are hilarious guys

[@NicotineftCoffeeFlavoredWater]

Wordddd…. Nigga a cornball

[@nojustxus2]

Rise and Fall of Slaughterhouse... They didn't even diss them. They told what they feel is the truth and didn't go overboard at all. They didn't attack them and Joe and Royce being sensitive feeling attacked. It's not a diss album, it's Joell and Crook story.

[@Mac_Raymond]

🎯🎯🎯

[@Subs1338]

Royce seems emotional cause he reads social media comments too much

[@joeadkins338]

All of this is correct.

[@NomadNetworkTV]

Devil's advocate: WHAT IF the emotion comes from people tearing down something that you helped built, and announcing the end of it without you knowing?

[@nojustxus2]

@@NomadNetworkTV that would be valid IF Joe didn't say he was retired AND Royce didn't say he wouldn't do it without Joe. Them announcing it was dead after 10 years of nothing isn't a shock to people.

[@Knoxentld]

Royce "Did you like crookeds pants? 😂" @59:28 🤣l

[@godzshadow9001]

Royce on that couch🤣🤣🤣he was bout to disappear into the sunken place🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@brianadavis9587]

🤣🤣🤣

[@grinchoi1]

Joell and Crook moving the way they did should come as no surprise. Slaughterhouse was 4 solo rappers coming together for the sake of a bag. They were contrived and never really tight like that. All this “my brother” talk is hilarious.

[@brownbronjames9811]

Joe wanted to finance and control the situation, after the way dude did mal and Rory, Joel and crooked wanted no parts of that.

[@bighomie1215]

@@brownbronjames9811 how did he do mal and Rory after he was already in motion with his podcast and they didn’t do shit to help the show…so what did they deserve?

[@dontesshortfilms6577]

Which had me questioning, if they somehow got together to finish Glass House, would that just be for the sake of finally getting the album out there? Would we see any more projects and collabs from the group if they really weren't that cool with one another?

[@lifeisgreat4220]

You can tell that Joe has a tremendous amount of respect for Royce. A lot People in the Industry speak well of him too. Royce seems to understand peoples brand of crazy and accepts them as they are.

[@urboyag]

I think Royce obviously has a lot of respect for Joe as well

[@tekkadawn6685]

Royce sounded betrayed fam 😭 shit hurted

[@hidingid]

Nah Royce is is a scammer and a lot of ppl have the same thoughts about him in the business

[@96god2]

@@hidingid really what do they say about him?

[@trinigladiator8830]

@@hidingid Elaborate

[@Wesleybyoung1]

It's funny how joe understands why royce would defend the integrity of the group by not doing the 3 man album but he doesn't understand it when Mal stood for the integrity of the podcast when Joe wanted to fire rory

[@ellisf5013]

🤷🏿‍♂️✅

[@farrellcityking1]

Easy… because Mal has changed his reasoning on why everything went left multiple times. In other words, the reason he left had nothing to do with solidarity and everything to do with trying to force Joe to give into their demands by them now showing up to work. Which is exactly why he was mad at Joe for replacing he and Rory with Ice and Ish. They threw a wrench into his grand plan. Come on… y’all have to pay attention to what’s been going on this past year and change. Mal has proven himself to be a full blown fraud.

[@joeadkins338]

Funny how that works huh?... "I'm sorry guuuyssssss" like a little fucking kid happy his manipulation worked.

[@Wesleybyoung1]

@@farrellcityking1 mmm...I don't think mal is a fraud. I think he wanted financial accountability, respect and transparency. But to each is own

[@chustlerm]

@farrellcityking1 mal never changed his stance. He gave more context. Just like joe has been changing why he fired rory. So you too are seeing things when you want to. These fools needed to talk about it when it happened or never talk about it.

[@BooneLuleyo]

59:28 « do you like Crooked’s pants in the video ? « 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Royce a savage

[@dom3810]

I saw Royce and started screaming like Joe 😭😭😭😭😭😭

[@jeremyseven9468]

Real Slaughterhouse fans do not want any of this to happen. I'll be glad when it's over.🙏🏾

[@yamilpimentel9639]

“Glad it ain’t me” got it🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Plantbasdnetwork]

Y’all gotta bring Royce more often. I’m running it back for the 3rd time

[@mrfreeze2446]

If that's true you seriously very urgently need an internet break ASAP

[@leroyrobinson3116]

me to bro

[@kenzoayangma5611]

lmao go outside bro

[@ayeegodoyness]

You doing a whole 8 hour shift

[@gc0rd645]

59:28 Royce Asking The Real Tough Questions 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@BrianGlaze]

The interesting thing is that people keep saying "diss", but this record wasn't a diss. Are we watering down what a diss is now?

[@LS-Vision]

The premeditated act in itself was the diss was Royce’s whole point

[@Mac_Raymond]

Truthfully the only disses were Joe and Royce clowning their raps, clothes, and videos for this album.

[@redpillproductions7187]

Another interesting thing was the album was trash. Basic loops, filler heavy and random bars with a few light jabs

[@joeadkins338]

@@redpillproductions7187 A lot of people disagree. I guess you prefer Royce choppy ass flow sounding awkward AF on the beat. Or Joe's ...well, at least Royce raps, right? 😂

[@willt8848]

@@LS-Vision So what?

[@binladen5299]

You can tell Royce had such an ego problem and takes him self way to serious

[@malikeltheos5509]

Totally. Sadly, most niggaz let Royce get that off. Lupe & Mickey Factz were both like: "fuck Royce!, nigga ain't finna talk to us like that!" I'm like Lupe and Mickey, meaning: I would have had to shoot Royce that "fade" for trying to always Son a nigga. Royce and I would NOT be able to get along. The fade would be inevitable.

[@APJDFSONLY]

All of them have huge egos - hell the most talented person at my 9 to 5 had an ego lol wth that mean

[@deontajohnson5537]

So just because you don’t take yourself seriously don’t mean nobody else cant

[@binladen5299]

@@APJDFSONLY read it again

[@tyronjasonhuff]

Time to walk all over the studio....

[@nic2154572]

Royce is the a true legend, Thanks for your time.

[@stannis7656]

ayeee joeee! got the subs growing nice bruh!! finally do a couple more of the big time interviews and you'll finally hit a milly by end of the year. congrats brah! Everyone been goin brazy on KZbin with the long-form content recently.. Trump, Nicki, Lil Wayne, Durk, Rozay, Khaled, Wiz, The Game, and more! A network would pay 9 figures for all that content and star power, but it's direct to KZbin.. crazy stuff! keep grinding!

[@lifeisgreat4220]

The way Royce controls the energy of the room is incredible 🙌🏾. He doesn’t have to yell to get you to back off and back down.

[@tekkadawn6685]

Bro is literally the best version of himself

[@onehitterquitter2130]

Royce is a shell of him self after lupe N Mickey burried him.

[@TeezyfolKKz]

He literally lost his composure and started the beef with Lupe. 😂

[@christianhernandez4279]

@@TeezyfolKKz oh how quickly people forget quickly lmao Lupe made him look like an idiot.

[@joeadkins338]

......Do you pray to Royce da 5 9?

[@BrooklynDaDon1]

I love when rappers show their love and understanding of other styles of music

[@mrgwclipz]

1:25:00 I can relate to Royce 100 percent with this, shit is wild how I’m the youngest and I gotta act like the oldest. Tf when “family” get like that, get away from all of them. That’s my advice.

[@camiloymw]

Why Joe always say he didn’t wanna start with whatever topic they start with😂

[@georgeo6654]

Royce refused to say Joe has a fault in all of this. All he said is play with Joe not me. Joe's Gas lighting is on 100..

[@tonegales2046]

I clearly said Joe has issues & he owns them😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kingmurq1017]

Why do ppl love yo blame Joe so much?

[@farrellcityking1]

@@kingmurq1017 Because he’s an easy target for people to point at and get people to believe what you say about him. If you actually pay attention tho, you can see how transparent all of that is.

[@joeadkins338]

@@farrellcityking1 You can't be serious

[@longtiger7]

This may be my favorite episode. Appreciate y'all.

[@KontryBoy706]

I want a Joe and Royce Album…. It don’t have to be about Slaughterhouse at all. Joe just need some motivation to rap again and Royce can be that positive force and bring the best out of him.

[@StullaKingKuul]

We got a album from the members we don't care about lol

[@KontryBoy706]

@@StullaKingKuul LMAO

[@Harmceo]

I think we going to get one simply because they pissed Royce off and dropped some mid.

[@debscom2]

@@StullaKingKuul oh my, that made my night

[@willt8848]

Joe ain't gave y'all niggas one inkling of rapping. Move tf on from that thought cause he's never rapping again. There's no money in him rapping. Royce out here playing games with your mind and hearts if you believe him that Joe was about to rap. I got a bridge to sell you also if that's the case.

[@gpproductionz]

Joell & Crook's album was fire. I understand that Joe and Royce feel a certain way about it, but they also got a right to get their shit off and tell their side of the story. The songs were not diss songs, they were autobiographical and perspective based. And fans are gonna feel a certain way after seeing the Rory and Mal situation plus how Royce handled the Lupe/Mickey Factz beef. If they looking crazy its because the resume is on public display. Hopefully they all can work it out soon...

[@bluv4579]

It's a terrible Album. It's a 1 play ▶️ Most people want to hear what they say and they not playing it again lol should of made another Collab. The Album did terrible but the Advance must of been good 🤦🏻‍♂️let's be real if they would of not talked about SH there would be more records to jam to

[@icantbelieveitsnotbutter8851]

Don't need to comment on nothing, you covered it 100% without no bias. If you're able to see shit clearly, this comment just speaks the truth. Like solo career wise Royce and Joe somewhere else and can put shit on the hangers and keep delaying shit. Joel and Crook pushing more cause they're not in the position these two are. Like come on, that some asshole shit not discussing the situation. Like yeah, yall not contracted anymore...that's the time to communicate 100% with each member about what's next. Joe now hinting at he might have came back but they only gave him 1yr before flipping. P.S. I actually like Joe since this new pod, been more transparent. Royce however always look to be in some weird fucking mood, where I could never like dude.

[@branflakee4257]

It's mid I never cared for a crook solo album and joell Ortiz album are solid but this was rushed

[@deontajohnson5537]

Y’all listened to this episodes and still came up with your on conclusion

[@Messiah_Black]

It could’ve been just as fire w/ different content. They didn’t need to do all this just to get attention (or maybe they did). They could’ve just did another HARD album. They made a conscious decision to exclude them from their decision. They tried to cash in on their half of the brand, while leaving them in the rubble. That ain’t A1.

[@knowledge229ds]

New Joe Budden we here!!

[@lennyh801]

Royce throwing out personal attacks about crooks pants shows his real character. The goal was to give closure to the fans. Joe and Ryan making this all about them. "quality control" laughable to say the least

[@joeadkins338]

Acting tough like he wasn't looking paranoid on that beef DVD. Anger...the last fig leaf.

[@202STFU]

Personal about some pants? lol. The goal was to get off Shady. From what it looks like Crook never wanted to and Joe did. So who is really to blame for the break up? I guess it depends on how you look at it. But whatever you do, you don't go and diss your "brothers"

[@Ahijah]

@@202STFU well they got off shady and nothing happened so what was the point in leaving shady 🥴

[@chrisowens1325]

@@joeadkins338 Bruh! You remember that too huh lol. Royce is from a tough city but he is NOT a tough guy. He’s a rap nerd and that’s okay

[@j.e3336]

@@Ahijah They left shady just to turn around and try to get under another label.🤔 Then get mad when someone that doesn't NEED to take a deal offers to help fund it independently?......especially after Joe told them 20 times that he would only do the album if labels weren't involved, but then they turned around and made a "sneak album" cus they didn't like the idea of Joe and Royce putting up most of the bread and needing their ROI...............So instead of independently funding the album understanding that Joe and Royce might have to invest a lot, and giving the fans what they "really wanted" and possibly make more money than if a label owned a share.......they took a deal this late in their career for a guaranteed check so they can make sure their all equal to sooth their egos?......and yall can't understand why Joe and Royce might be mad their going around saying they didn't care at all......when in the end it wasn't even about the music it was about a deal? Yall really let yall love for Joel and hate for Joe shine in these comments.

[@djames3013]

They are crazy the album is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@detroitfitnessnerd3608]

Rise & Fall of Slaughterhouse is a 🔥🔥 album...The fans would've waited forever for all 4 to come together like DETOX 😆

[@keemzjoseph8085]

What's your favourite song and why ?

[@TheRealBHaze]

Tbh the album felt well under what they are capable of.. felt like the same song a few times.. They could've made it 1 amazing song on what should've been HARD 2...

[@draenation265]

Nah, it was aight. Crook and Joell are amazing rappers so it's almost impossible for them to put 12 songs together and none of em be cold. But for all this buildup the project fell flat, imo. Them niggas can rap their asses off, no debate. Song making ability is more than just being able to rap. It was a cool project tho

[@comichead8431]

Meh, album is sonically cool but the actual content & point of view just sounds cringe to me. It’s presented like a ‘beef record’ but they don’t even take any real shots. A soft album. Reason is, their only real ‘beef’ is that Joe & Royce didn’t feel like running and making a SH album. Not a big offense, they are all solo acts 1st. Just a desperate attempt from Crook + Joel to be relevant so they used the group name for clout. I ain’t even a big supporter of Budden or Royce, it just is what it is.

[@blackjesus4525]

@@comichead8431 obviously you’re a fan of Budden if you’re here… stop the cap! Lol plus you quoting the nigga’s take of the album pretty much word for word lol but ok

[@dub_uno]

Ish probably gave HR migraines being late to work...😂🤣

[@AlexanderT.A.G]

That Rise and Fall is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@msindisiqalinge1183]

Great to see Royce da 5'9 on the pod🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Teddybreezy]

So they were disappointed because the Crook & Joell lacked "spice" lol smfh... If there was more of that spice y'all would've acted butthurt so there is no right in this for you two gentlemen...

[@draenation265]

Nah they're disappointed that the whole rollout was based around this tension obviously for numbers and attention, only for them to drop some shit that they could have just put out without all the fake beef.

[@mynameismynameis3322]

What they mean is clearly that they expected more spice after this whole rollout. Like "the others were burning Slaughterhouse shirts, recording in secret, in case of Crooked throwing his friendship with Royce away and all that for just these few jabs?"

[@Teddybreezy]

My point is had there been more spice, they would've been disappointed and feel attacked about all that spice.. They would've complained about it regardless...

[@draenation265]

@@Teddybreezy you're missing the point sir. The entire rollout was bullshit. From the jump this was fucked up. They just shouldn't have did it. Why was all of this necessary? Before the project came out there was disappointment. The point is at least if you gon do all this drama shit drop some heat. This felt like the nigga that get loud and attract a whole crowd like he about to fight and do all the theatrics then just walk off.

[@Teddybreezy]

@@draenation265 I partially agree with that.. I say partially because I wouldn't have done this with people that I call "friends", but on the other side we don't know what the truth is. I'm just saying that would've had some shit to bitch about regardless of the outcome of the album that's all fam..

[@delmar1514]

Appreciate the content coming from the JBP and interviews. Flowers now, Joe & Co. 🙏🏻

[@mb9ether]

Word ....best pod on the airwaves

[@rellrender8383]

When was the last u heard somebody say… hey, put that new crooked I on! Lol

[@asherb8460]

The biggest anomaly and point of confusion is Royce's position on all this.

[@d2432money]

How so

[@asherb8460]

@@d2432moneyRoyce is a stand up guy. Why is all the talking being done after the fact? A deal was brought to the table and it was turned down, that's cool but why didn't the convo carry on? Not just for the business but the conversation should have carried on for the fans. These are grown men not like your asking a lot. That's why I don't get how Royce has ended up in this position. Crook is also a real one so we shouldn't be here. Crook and Royce together should had this sorted.

[@abzda1700]

@@asherb8460 well Royce clearly said crook was ignoring his phone calls and planning the album behind closed doors like a real snake you can use the fans as an excuse to snake you homeboy

[@asherb8460]

Ok So lets say he answers the phone does Royce come back to the group without Joe? When was this phone call made? Was it straight after or months down the line? We don't know these answers but what I do know crook has never showed any sign of being a person who snakes someone. Look at his origin story. Every west coast real one respects him and he has earned that for being a certain type of guy. People don't respect him just for his lyrical skills and has earned his stripes. Even Royce said this himself. Listen, you don't just become that type of guy who snakes people not at this time in his life. Ultimately crook needed therapy so he jumped in the booth. His raps that what he does. That was always going to be a problem when certain people don't always want to just rap. Not like he weren't trying to bring the group back together.@@abzda1700

[@jamessummers5936]

@@abzda1700 Crook explained why they weren't answering their phones when they were putting the project together prior to what Royce is saying. Their stance was that they made the decision between the two of them and once they got moving with it they didn't want to hear anything from the other 2 guys because it would basically distract them.

[@ernestbrown7102]

The rise and the fall of slaughterhouse, was about joe , it really wasn't about royce , so royce in his feelings for nothing . Joe is using his platform to control the narrative of the story . What I got out of that album , was two guys that miss there brothers and miss the group. And they are upset because they waited 6 years.

[@therobmc18]

But what did you get outta Royce talking about it on the podcast?

[@knot3427]

I agree Royce just collateral damage its really about joe and his bullshit....I was blowed to hear joe tried to say the label forged his signature when they first signed to shady knowing he was lying but it sound just like slimy ass joe shit made me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@folkscrazyouthere3076]

They literally put false claims on royce but folks telling him he in his feelings but Joel and Crook literally had a roll out crying about the group. Yall funny af lol

[@joegurt2957]

@@folkscrazyouthere3076 they only hear what they want

[@willt8848]

@@folkscrazyouthere3076 What false claims they put on Royce? Please explain?

[@trishconstant]

One of the best episodes ever

[@matthewtaylor2943]

Royce looks mad comfortable on that couch!..lololol

[@tecgod9461]

Idk why it’s so funny to me when joe says jussey smollete lml

[@ronj77]

Most Redacted Episode Ever 💯🔥😅 Still very informative and still hilarious 🤣🤣🤣 This whole week has been all about JBP

[@Themikelawry]

Except for when Royce called out Mal 😂

[@overthemountains7207]

Joe talking about kids clowning ll every 8 months but he was clowned by Twitter users who called him president Joe Budden Memes sparked by running jokes

[@chephone3903]

FYI: Royce is saying they called him Kelly Roland

[@CannonCornbread]

@@chephone3903 THANK YOU cuz I was struggling hahahaha

[@FromMemphisToYou]

At 1:48 Royce almost talked Joe into a project 😂😂Joe immediately shot that shit down with "let's give it some time"😂😂😂

[@LiveLeveLeviL]

Perspective : Joell & Crook basically just threw a live hand grenade into Royce’ house while his 1 year old son (SlaughterHouse) is taking a nap 😴 after he was in just in the hospital ICU clinging to life, forcing the parents to struggle immensely trying to pay for medication, surgery, specialists to nurse him back to health…. And the justification for throwing the grenade was bc no one was picking up the house phone when they called about stopping by… so they thought they were being ignored and took it personally with no proof.

[@ZendayaG]

Royce bringing his own microphone from home is WILD 😭😭

[@jecoliasjems2529]

Royce said A LOT of things I feel morally that I learned from My Daddy and Granddaddy. I also can resonate with him in the fact you can have absolutely nothing to do with something and you’re moving in a logic/neutral way all while people still have problems. Sounds like The Scapegoat of the family and friend groups.

[@Rizzlyricist]

True true, Royce is the epitome of what most men should be honestly. Cool, calm, collected and educated.

[@alexrenaud8228]

boy, this pod was something else boy. love this podcast man. for real. Royce has the look joe had this time last year, pure disbelief. hope they get out of this cool, doing nothing crazy

[@TheMoirLabel]

It be the ones closest to you?

[@DMob249]

Look at ice when Royce said "their pants" 💀💀💀

[@loiswhitley5879]

Joe and Royce one song, with a 🔥 beat and 🔥 bars.

[@kingkeio1027]

I love civil discourse. Being able to peacefully agree/disagree is essential. About the Slaughterhouse snafu: It seems to be a lot of "miscommunication" and semantics. Joe telling his audience of millions of listeners that he's never going to rap again but then saying he didn't tell two individuals specifically that, is nuts. He's been adamant about not rapping again for 6+ years and NOW all of a sudden it's a point of contention? C'mon man, don't be that guy. If a woman you liked told 1,000 people that she slept with 100 men, you heard her say this, you tell her you're not talking to her because of that and she retorts with, "When did I tell YOU that I slept with 100 men?" You all would call her crazy. It's horrible semantics. Also, if you're going through a lot in life and that's your reason for not touching bases with people and they make a move on their end from what's been given at face value, you can't fault them. The onus is on the you, not the people constantly trying to receive an audience. Joe saying people that began to disagree with actions aren't fans is wild too. I could love you from the beginning of something and then have a change of heart over the course of time due to your actions, you can't then tell me I never loved you. That's crazy. You also can't think (especially in this day and time), that you could shelf projects for 10+ years and then release to massive approval. It's a clear case of nobody will love your child the way you will. Joell and Crook aren't off the hook either. You can't take a jointly owned intellectual property and run it into the ground without approval from the whole collective, no matter how you may feel about it. The move was heavy-handed and short-sighted. I'm speculating but even if they felt they needed to move this way due to any extenuating circumstances, its still wrong.

[@therobmc18]

One of the few people willing to hold all of them accountable...salute to you king. 🤝🏾

[@nexus7monster]

If you tell fans you're not rapping....Doesnt mean you're never rapping again. The circumstance might not be conducive for you to rap. So it's not crazy for Joe to tell fans that while leaving the door open for slaughterhouse. Just like Jay-Z is "retired" but still drops music. But he can do it at his leisure...Joe is allowed to do the same without it being twisted by his friends to excuse the shady ish the did with the album and their brand. Crook and Joell are the only ones moving foul in that ordeal !

[@georgeo6654]

I agree with all your takes. But if me and you start a business and I invest all my life savings. You then decide for whatever reason you won't do it again and you have other opportunities to do something else. What happens to my investment and sweat. What if that was the best thing that happened to my career and its eating at me for 10 years. 1 person holding 3 people up. Same way you had a right to freeze my life for 10yrs because you don't honor contracts is the same way I have a right to burn it all down. No one is at fault but all entitled to do what makes them happy..

[@kingkeio1027]

@@georgeo6654 This was something hammered home when I was in school for Audio Engineering. They kept preaching, "know your contract in and out because there's a thing called "Creative Contracts". They could write the same thing 3 different ways and they only need to catch you slipping on one of them". There should've been a contingency set in place to deal with a situation like that and if there wasn't, you just have to take it on the chin as bad business and do your best to sidestep something like that moving forward. A Contract will save you where trust/good faith would fail you.

[@georgeo6654]

@@kingkeio1027 well since the contract is not in place between 4 of them then everyone is in their right to act as they please. Just like Joe did. Morality conversation can be interesting depending on who it favors. Joe definitely does not have any moral standing with anyone. It's sad people gravitate to him because of chaos and not because he is a good guy. People like Trump too and tune in to watch the shit show.

[@traypate6139]

What’s good JBP gang!💪🏾 I hope everyone’s doin well today🙏🏾

[@antionecorbett2793]

Peace king njoy your weekend

[@traypate6139]

@@antionecorbett2793 thank you 🙏🏾 and you do the same

[@Thetruthyaheard]

“You playing every card now” - ICE on Jussie Smollet’s fist ✊🏾😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@longtiger7]

My core values are accountability, integrity, and independence and this episode was an embodiment of that. I lied earlier when I said this might be my favorite episode... this is my favorite episode.

[@hennyNight]

Royce calling out Mal 👀👀👀 ah shit you know Joe wasn’t editing that name out 😂

[@Hugo-tf6no]

Cause Mal only sees Black and White, which is what would annoy Joe when it came to Mal giving his opinion on shit, and it’s gonna get tiring to Rory. It’s always very surface level “insight”

[@SoMixedUp]

I mentioned in the Rory and Mal pod that Mal isn’t seeing it what it’s for. They could have made an album and not using the slaughterhouse name for clout… they already made an album a couple years ago. They could have did the same thing. And why not call Royce and Joe and let them know something. They wanted the narrative of them being blindsided and wanted the reactions.

[@LanceG007]

@@SoMixedUp like Crook said it’s not like they notify them when they do something

[@farrellcityking1]

@@LanceG007 🤦🏾‍♂️ Because when they do something it has nothing to do with Slaughterhouse. Truthfully, he’s shown his hand. Dude is jealous of Joe and Royce being able to not on,y function but thrive outside of the group.

[@hotpotato561]

As a longtime fan of slaughterhouse the whole situation is just really disappointing. Tbh I’d given up on the thought of a four man comeback so when I saw this was coming out, it was a mixed bag of being disappointed but also curious. Now further back story is coming out and it seems as if the idea of a comeback was closer then any of us fans knew… just sucks man. Kind of like if they finished the avengers series with them just having a domestic and walking away. 🤦‍♂️ Not angry, just disappointed. And just a side note: damn right the real fans care about your feelings. Mental health takes precedence over music everyday.

[@ohmyv3gatron]

“We could have talked to anybody” so what he’s saying is they were happy being stagnant while the other two wanted the group to keep going.

[@justinlattimore9629]

When Ish said "12 punk ass thousand dollars", either construction is thriving or he's close to retirement 😅

[@reekhavoc2932]

🤣🤣

[@SourD72]

I respect Royce for still being here fr. If u were growing into your teens in the early 00’s He coulda easily been a Obie trice .. just gone

[@karegairegi9071]

Skipped right to Royce, thanks time stamp guy!

[@Rizzlyricist]

I'm gonna keep coming back to this shit until then end of time yo 🔥

[@emanuelcrespo5786]

Royce wearing the GOAT ring is dope!

[@jessmytype]

“We’re just fancy animals.” - Parks 😂😂😂

[@dashkenshin9748]

Having royce up for the Album review is 🙌 it gives you a better feel for the view point of Joe... Royce spoke very openly and was vulnerable. Which is clarity for me.

[@willt8848]

The nigga didn't say anything and make any more clear but you talking about clarity 😂😂😂

[@dashkenshin9748]

@@willt8848you're bugging. Royce's take keeps the same exact energy as Joe's has over this whole roll out. Or you just haven't been following this all close enough. For me I've watched royce's behavior leading up to the album dropping vs his demeanor after hearing it and he was clearly waiting to give them a real chance to make their case and get their point across but after giving it time to play out and listening to their verses/body of work, his position went from hurt over the situation and surprise that they were choosing this route, to just completely understanding that Joell and Crooked simply don't respect him or Joe. "If it's really Rise and Fall of Slaughter house to you, the put it on paper, sign off those rights to the group. Put that on paper." His take on Crook's interviews says alot. THim willing to go in person to the pod and visibly take Joe's side in all of this says alot. And his take on the album from how they presented the roll out to how they actually performed lyrically on the songs and put the actual project together says alot. ...he made it clear to me how he views both these guys as friends & artists ---> that's vulnerability. Vulnerability to me creates a emotional lens and that gives you the opportunity to see more cleary someone's stance on a issue ---> that's clarity.

[@willt8848]

@@dashkenshin9748 I didn't read all that besides a paragraph. I'm just going to say Royce can foh with all that people can die and all that tough talk. Nigga saying a whole lot of words without giving any clarity and completely dismissing Joell and Crooks side which is ego and narcissistic on his part. Crook acquitted himself much better on Cosmic Kev than Joe and Royce has and did. Crook ain't say nothing bad about Royce but Moist da IG is getting over the top emotional for whatever reason. Nigga had no plans to do anything with Slaughterhouse and even himself a few months back said Slaughterhouse was done on IG so why son mad now? Far as the rollout goes, like Jay told Joe "So what".

[@dashkenshin9748]

@@willt8848 nah son.

[@willt8848]

@@dashkenshin9748 Uh huh

[@dashkenshin9748]

"If we talking Slaughter house please refer to Slaughter mouse -- think twice before you blink twice, you got a war with Mouse." 🔥

[@gemsound]

Shoutout to Royce for bringing his own mic straight outta Heaven. Lol.