The Joy Joy Gang Explained (Dark Deception Chapter 4 Monster Lore & Secrets)

[@wilsonweiseng6485]

I like how most of the monsters try to stab, bite or pounce you while the joy joy gang beats you up mafia style

[@sivaprakasamshanmugam7676]

Yeah at least most of them hangry takes a bite of us

[@jenniferdunstan5065]

Yeah that’s why lucky has an Italian-American accent fool

[@lightningstrike14]

Yes, sitting on or eating someone is very mafia

[@themiosar]

I mean , they are the Joy Joy GANG.

[@nashad978]

"I like my meat pretty bloody"

[@patricktorrens3641]

I love how instead of having some insta-kill animation like most monsters, lucky just beats you to death.

[@saschahofmann2421]

And the boss as well

[@SilverDFoxy]

Actually clown is also beats you to death

[@Brigeb20]

It looks more like your having a stroke

[@Darkblazezx3]

Yeah that rabbit beats you to death with a 12 hit combo

[@gilbertotabares8196]

I dunno why but it feels like Lucky should be carrying a bat.

[@quantumtabbylargo7457]

Anyone notice that during Lucky's second animation his nose does a sniff sniff like an actual rabbit? when he says "You know why they call me Lucky?" the little break is where his nose twitches

[@dovahkiin6488]

Oml you're right. I can't believe I missed that, that's cute ngl.

[@jameiriansmith5253]

This Is Underrated, I Noticed And Was Looking For This Comment

[@AngelGoldHeart64]

I saw it!, It’s so freaking cute and adorable!!!!🥰

[@blumbles_]

5:44

[@0rangeeige199]

Rabbit's feet are also said to contain good luck

[@Thedipsh_t]

I love how Hangry just goes "Hi! I'm Hangry! I'm a pig." short 'n' simple.

[@X-SPONGED]

10:05 Lucky: *_*maniacal laughter*_* *"I'M BACK!!!"* Glitchtrap: _"I see you're a possessed animatronic rabbit of culture aswell"_

[@stevenplays8688]

Same bro i Thot that to

[@ThisIsACreativeName]

*Exactly what I was thinking lol*

[@queenr.s656]

They even look alike

[@undead_galaxy1095]

I think they’d be friends

[@RainbowMetal]

Wait a minute... Both are yellow Both are rabbits And both are in a franchise with a pig and chicken animatronics Oh no...

[@ls_rus4666]

I like your theory about animal souls. Maybe we can expand on it a bit. What if each animatronic represents animals killed under different circumstances? What if their personalities mirror those of their killers? Let's start with Hangry. He is a pig. Pigs are farm animals that are only valued for their meat. Farmers kill them as soon as they get big enough. That is reflected in Hangry's behaviour. He only sees mortals as food and nothing else. Next is Penny, who is a chicken. Chickens are valued not just for meat but also their eggs. They get to live for longer and recieve some love. In the end we still kill them. Penny seems to represent that. She has a soft spot for both her companions and mortals. She, however, still mercilessly kills those who dare to cross her path. And then there is Lucky. Back in the day rabbits were hunted for both their meat and their fur. Nowadays some rich bastard can wack any animal just for the trophy or the fun of it. That seems to fit Lucky pretty well. He is a sadistic calculating hunter who toys with his victims.

[@Velmyra]

that honestly makes sense. what I'm wondering tho is why is it part of the game? I was hoping the joy joy gang might represent one of the themes or the 9 circles of hell. I assumed it was gonna be treachery since the joy joy gang appeared to be friendly but turned out to be evil. but since E's notes doesnt really describe much of their souls except that they're "not human" I guess it explains why it wouldnt fit with the treachery theme bc animals dont really betray anyone

[@trevonduncombe5866]

This is a good theory, but all of the monsters are based off of sequences of events in Doug Housers life. There are cutscenes in the game that fact checks this.

[@ls_rus4666]

@@Velmyra well, like Malak said, this isn't the Hell we mortals came up with.

[@ls_rus4666]

@@trevonduncombe5866 All of these monsters can have multiple meanings. They already have at least two. These realms were originaly connected to Bierce and then adapted Doug.

[@yellowmello1223]

So, seems like all of them souls of animals who were killed for their meat. I theorized that the Joy Joy Gang represents Gluttony, and this would back that up.

[@csekat]

The joy joy gang must be REALLY mad at mamma bear for letting Doug escape

[@thegod9539]

Mama Bear is gonna have a really good time.

[@KiiXii]

0:08

[@TheOfficialDBot]

@@thegod9539 im sorry what?

[@android21evil19]

Actually If it wasn't for that Blue Spirit and Malak underestimating Doug AGAIN, Mama Bear and her babies would've easily killed Doug. It wasn't smart for Malak to leave his ring pieces he worked so hard to get back at her place. He should've taken them with him. Then he wouldn't be complaining about Doug using his powers.

[@brandonmatthews3484]

Either that, or Lucky would just take it as proof of how great he is; after all, how many other monsters could say they actually won?

[@hikothealien2758]

I like how the nightmares tell about Doug’s life. He really was a bad father.

[@dudeonbrave123]

what about chapter 5 though? what are the mannequins related to doug

[@yutubechannel-Y]

@@dudeonbrave123 probably represents him practically being glued to his family - which is represented by him being surrounded by thousands of mannoquins

[@dudeonbrave123]

@@yutubechannel-Y ok

[@_MECHA_]

Yeah,I mean I like him tho

[@valerie_sees]

He was a bad EVERYTHING

[@Yustillhere]

Lucky: penny’s got a soft spot for mortals Penny: SQUISHY YOU MADE ME LOOK BAD INFRONT OF LUCKY

[@RapCattiez]

Lool

[@mossypanda7575]

XD

[@krewfamily1884]

P be like:WHY U BULLYY MEEEEEE*wheeeeeeeezeeeeeeee*

[@RainbowMetal]

That's a her problem

[@3xp1r3d_n4ch0s]

5:42 I've watched people play mascot mayhem about 20 times, yet I never realized that after he says "you know why they call me lucky?" He wiggles his nose like a true rabbit XD it's adorable to me

[@canondead1943]

Ikr? So cute

[@aries_fire2727]

I never really thought about it before, but it actually makes sense for the Joy Joy Gang to be the souls of animals that were killed by people. When you think about it, rabbits, chickens, and pigs are all hunted and killed either for sport or for food. That's essentially what Lucky, Penny, and Hangry we're doing to Doug the whole time during Mascot Mayhem. Can't wait to see your video about Mama Bear when it comes out! She was definitely one of my favorite monsters from the latest Dark Deception chapter.

[@ipsharoy7398]

I think the rabbit hates us humans the most because of all the animal testing done on them. Killing animals is a quick, less painful death but the animals used for animal testing of cosmetic products have to face a very slow, extremely painful death.

[@Cheetahgirl_Studios]

@@ipsharoy7398 That would explain about why Lucky seems to be the angriest member out of the entire Joy Joy Gang. He hates humans with a burning passion. That would also explain why his kill animation is longer than the other monsters in the game: he wants to inflict as much pain on Doug as possible before dealing the killing blow.

[@ipsharoy7398]

@@Cheetahgirl_Studios yes. Good explanation

[@aries_fire2727]

@@Cheetahgirl_Studios That makes a lot of sense. That's a really good explanation.😄

[@Bunnyleadd]

And chickens are also valued as pets, so that would make a bit of sense Pigs are just kinda turned into bacon, unless it's a baby

[@greninjastorm6734]

I actually like the personality the Joy Joy Gang has. If you pay close attention during the level, they converse with each other when not chasing you(mostly Lucky berating the others for letting Doug escape). Oddly enough, they feel the most human out of the monsters so far, because they each have their own individual personalities

[@patrickthegamer7142]

Wait, really? Do you know if there’s any videos of that? It sounds interesting and I want to see more of their personalities

[@greninjastorm6734]

I feel it's more if you're invisible around them, they'll talk idly. One of Lucky's lines is "C'mon, buddy, you're wasting my time here!"

[@bassnate3680]

The fact that they are the least human but feel the most human out of all monsters kinda creeps me out

[@OwenBLukman]

@Emerald Block so agatha and gold watcher wasn't human like monster?

[@rawlicious3790]

Basically by looks, Agatha, gold watchers and reaper nurses looked the most human but personally if it's about personality, the Joy joy gang and Agatha I guess

[@MrMcGee-yc1oq]

I can respect Lucky, he says he never loses, by our knowledge that’s true.

[@PEWEHHS]

He lost to E!

[@fluffybum204]

@@PEWEHHS actually thats a similar situation to what happened with doug if she disnt have that artifact she would have died basically she cheated

[@ChaosBadger04]

@@fluffybum204 A dub is a dub

[@cheesegrated7893]

I mean Doug did get the ring piece so technically he lost

[@fluffybum204]

@@cheesegrated7893 doug got the piece because malak told them to give him the piece so malak could get to bierce

[@Staeve64]

Penny: oh no Lucky: oh no Hangry: *busts through the wall* OH YEAH

[@Staeve64]

@Lyddia Thomas my favorite killers are Lucky (the rabbit) and Hangry (the pig)

[@RainbowMetal]

I like the reference(if it's what I'm thinking it is).

[@AlibiBlu]

Penny: “Lucky! I found him!” Superhorrorbro: “Is this a love obsession?”💁🏻‍♂️🦋

[@ladybloodymoon4512]

Mmm Yes a love obsession

[@sunsetlover123-y7c]

It's the way she says it that convinces everyone it's a love obsession.

[@_horrorgaloreee]

BYE 😭😭

[@RainbowMetal]

I'm confused with Mike's reasoning.

[@КалинаТодорова-э9б]

Imagine seeing Penny dreaming that she marries Lucky😂

[@gilbertotabares8196]

Animal souls? Possibly. They could also be an amalgamation of negative emotions formed into a functional soul then stuffed into these animatronics. Lucky=Arrogance. Penny=Vanity. Hangry=Gluttony.

[@owenmcbride1]

Nine circles theory confirmed?!

[@Jarock316]

@glitchon Arrogance is another word for ego.

[@gilbertotabares8196]

@@owenmcbride1 still a possibility. I think Mike gave up on that theory to easily. While not necessarily a Dante-esqe inferno it is still a realm of damnation. Meaning the seven deadly sins should still be pretty prevalent.

[@nanamxi8049]

@@Jarock316 it was a joke

[@0rangeeige199]

So kind of like how remnant works in FNAF

[@s.m.g.2391]

Now that I think of it. In Crazy Carnevil stage, Bierce mentioned about Doug having a fear of clown. Maybe this is why he hate going to a theme park type place and now that he enter this dark realm, his soul actually drawn to this kind of nightmare realm that have theme park or the animal/mascot type monster in his nightmare most of the time.

[@curtiswilluweit9202]

IHASRT

[@dihathani4680]

It's called crazy carnevil

[@chiangedison8080]

“Squishy “ can also refer to a platonic love in a friend way from what I’ve heard

[@shadowninja1059]

Appreciate the info 👍

[@Miskamouskamikumouse]

I've heard that too, a softer form of "crush"

[@imheretomakeyoucringe7950]

She also states; "I just like squishy things!"

[@Bunnyleadd]

"oo meat is squishyyyy! Guess I gotta eat my new friend"

[@spoiledmilk5452]

Oh yeah, a squish is the platonic version of crush

[@Sugarsoleil_uwu]

I kinda like how Lucky isn’t “all talk, no action”. The Joy Joy Gang actually won against Doug and prevented him from getting to the portal. The first monsters to ever do so. Even his line in the beginning says so “You know why they call me Lucky? Cause I never lose!” That also explains why Lucky is extremely egotistical cause never once has he lost (this chapter kinda proves that) Gosh Dark Deception is so rad 💚

[@Cloudymelann]

You are correct, but you’re forgetting that E (Doug’s wife) barely escaped with her life.

[@skyhigh72510]

😊😊😊

[@liarliarplants4hire]

@@Cloudymelann Lucky: [Red eyed] “ THAT B🐕TCH DOESN’T COUNT-“ Me: [In a Lamb costume] “ We don’t talk about E- E, E, E.” Lucky: “ AND WE DON’T SING THAT SONG!!!” [Begins punching me to death]

[@alanabyss9246]

Lucky is obviously inspired by William Afton

[@Mira_Strawberry_Cake]

Literally 2 years later and its still an underatted comment..

[@creativename994]

4:39 “However this joy joy land has more than killer animatronics to contend with” *pig explodes*😊

[@deciduous_reaper]

I’d say The Joy Joy gang are the only Monsters that actually stopped Doug Houser

[@frank8917]

You know why they call Lucky… Lucky? He never looses

[@kestrinnaelapaa2411]

So far

[@sivaprakasamshanmugam7676]

@@kestrinnaelapaa2411 yeah so far

[@frank8917]

Maybe those creepy mannequins from the future chapter 5 could stop him

[@sivaprakasamshanmugam7676]

@@frank8917 or even the last chapter whoever that is I’m thinking it’s Malak himself

[@icecreamaddict25]

Man.. Doug has beaten so many horrible demons, to saw blade monkeys, angry spirits, and axes wielding statues Only to lose to a Chicken, Bunny and Pig-

[@rawlicious3790]

Don't forget some killer ducks, crazy clowns and killer -pretty ladies- nurses as well

[@drippylad3973]

@@rawlicious3790 ayo

[@tomato_teddy]

Don't forget all the times Doug was chased by a literal DEMON

[@lvegore_]

@@rawlicious3790 ?????????

[@user-wq6kz9py2x]

I'm really concerned about it

[@KaiKeroseno]

When I heard that Hangry stops to catch his breath because he tires himself easily the only thing I could say was "Same"

[@ryaquaza3offical]

Wait, a yellow rabbit animatronic that lures you into a false sense of security before killing you? Something about this feels strangely familiar,. And I love it!

[@fernoskullgaming9256]

William afton: "I see your a animatronic of culture..."

[@Honey_G1]

Glitch trap: NEW FRIEND

[@JeremyPeche]

Since this gang are the only ones that stopped Doug, I hope Malek takes that into consideration and has them show up in the remaining levels to help the monsters in there

[@joeyy3931]

I feel like they'll show up at the end of the game tbh.

[@JeremyPeche]

I'm sure all the monsters will be back for the final rush to beat Malek, but seeing how the Joy Joy Gang actually beat Doug, why wouldn't Malek utilize the one group that worked, plus we've seen that the monsters can be in other realms as well so there's nothing stopping them

[@eleanorcooke7136]

@@JeremyPeche I think there will be a choice at the end of the game, kinda like cuphead where the player has to choose between Malak and Beirce as we can see Beirce becoming darker and more powerful.

[@JeremyPeche]

@@eleanorcooke7136 ether way Malek hasn't given the player much of a reason to choose him so a good ending would probably be Bierce or neither. But none of that goes with my point that we still have at least 2 world's where Malek will try and stop the player, and since we've not only seen that the monsters can appear in other words but the fact that the Joy Joy Gang is the only ones that stop Doug would indicate that a smart move for both Malek and the developers would be to have them appear to try and stop Doug in the last two worlds when the monsters of said worlds prove that they can't

[@ic_rustlandcoco4041]

@JeremyPeche what's the point of the JJG returning if they already caught Doug and won? They've done their part so there's really nothing else they can do

[@lorirootes876]

Every other monster: *Insta Kills* Lucky: We don't do that here

[@KTWhatsup]

Same with the Reaper nurses

[@notdovydasdovydas6722]

We only use jojo stands

[@xmilfmommyx7056]

He just built different 😳

[@scriggle3564]

@@KTWhatsup ngl i call reaper nurse killing blow a 1 shot because she impales you once and you die immediately

[@KTWhatsup]

@@scriggle3564 well I meant they don’t kill you straight away as you enter the hospital

[@LeftLefttheGecko]

I love how Tara Strong made Penny sound like Truffles

[@ndiyabucaphukelaubusobakho1732]

thats tara strong?

[@scott_needshelp1408]

@@ndiyabucaphukelaubusobakho1732 yes

[@OtomostheCrazy]

Voiced 2 characters in one chapter. Nice

[@scott_needshelp1408]

@@OtomostheCrazy 3 characters actually

[@Jarock316]

@@ndiyabucaphukelaubusobakho1732 Eeyup, her name is in the credits.

[@TheWonTrueDragon]

I personally think these represent Gluttony, the clear indicator being Hangry but Lucky is also eternally hungry for chaos and carnage, and while violence is an available sin as well, the Monkeys fit it better and Lucky's love for killing seems insatiable compared to the cold calculation of the monkeys. Along with that, the Joy Joys army is continuously growing as we see from how many animatronics chase you down at the end of it. With that many copies of them, their hunger is limitless.

[@vi0let831]

Cold calculation??? I always thought the Murder Monkeys were mindless killing machines

[@TheWonTrueDragon]

@@vi0let831 Both are accurate

[@cinnamonroll96]

I really like how they did the joy joy land and gang. I always try to match them to the hell circles you talked about in other lore videos and I feel like this level was gluttony/violence. That’s because first of all the antagonists are animals. Also the whole theme park and mechanics, personality for these antagonists really suit this gluttony thing. Humans mistreat and kill animals for the sake of entertainment (zoos, amusement parks etc.) = location of the level, consume animals = hangry the pig is the equivalent to humans who eat animals and thirdly the fact that animals are used to experiment and test on, whether it’s for cosmetics, medicine or for genetic experiments like mutation = equivalent to the fact that the gang are robots and were combined at the end to one “animal”. Also the whole army of these animals is like how animals are breed in masses to be used for all of the above. So I feel like the gluttony of humans meets their perfect punishment with how they designed joy land and the joy gang bc all of what they stand for is gluttony or at least the very opposite of moderation

[@tristencox5914]

"Man I'm glad Doug lost his plot armor. I wonder how he'll do without it." "Nvm he got it back immediately." Malak claims to have important work and can't chase after Doug, but he has plenty of time to watch Doug run around.

[@markerofthemidnight7469]

I mean, plot armour is something all protagonists tend to have, not to mention horror protagonists because have you even SEEN games like Bendy and the Ink Machine? (Seriously think about it, now THAT’S a game that relies on plot armour to a crazy degree.) As for Malak, yeah can’t really argue with that.

[@spitegames]

working theory seems to be its tammy's soul. malak can see through dougs eyes, just because he's busy doing something else doesnt mean he cant be watching doug tv

[@s.m.g.2391]

The orb will play an important part later in chapter five according to Vincent. As for Malak, it’s bothering me sometimes too, but he’s actually been around for quite a long long time(millenniums) so he’s quite vain as well and according to Vincent, actually have some kind of business to take care off outside of dealing with Bierce and the mortals she send(Vincent already mentioned it in the last Q&A about how there actually gonna be a book about him soon.) Not to mention a hundreds if not thousands of soul that end up there in each level/realm already, proven that apart from a very few minority, the monsters have quite an insane kill streaks there and usually don’t let anyone escape from their realm. At that point, Malak probably thought that he could just let his minion toy with that one fly that actually causing more problems than normal now that Doug have no ring power. Not to mention, he did state that he will(and probably want) to enjoy watching Doug suffer.

[@markerofthemidnight7469]

@@spitegames “DOUG TV” I-

[@AgathaVara]

That might be something related to the plots, who knows? I think Malak is just preparing joy joy kill project in the zone, talking to mama bear about Doug coming so she gotta give birth to more babies quick/hide ring piece, or even something related to chapter 5! Well, unless tue devs didn't think that far and I'm just imagining too much... Though I admit, the rock falling at bearly buried is ridiculous, there are logic in it showing many wooden planks are holding onto them, but still, kinda forced

[@lunasspace2694]

Am I the only one who gets a strange feeling in her chest when Hangry talks about eating Doug´s ribs? Like, my own are kinda starting to hurt..

[@purplelily2608]

No no. Same. Same feeling when I hear the song "notorious P.I.G."

[@Feral_cockroach121]

@@purplelily2608 Same-

[@Combes_]

HangryK

[@Rhanz2021]

No no, u got a point actually.

[@youarentyouwhenurhungry2379]

*that's the feeling people get when hangry is coming for them*

[@piscestheaquamarinedragon1088]

I just thought of something... Every previous level's monster's gave us a power. Murder monkey's gave us speed boost, Agatha teleportation, etc. If you remember in the mama bear chase... Malak called Doug lucky when the boulders fell to stop mama... So Doug got some of Lucky's... Well luck. Not as powerful since Doug didn't defeat the joy joy gang. But just enough to help him in a pinch

[@elmacuelmo6434]

@Smaze leave

[@BendySlayerX]

Actually if you played the game Murder monkey stage no powers Agatha Speed boost Gold Watchers teleportation Ducks Telepathy Clowns Primal Fear Reaper nurses Telekinesis Joy Joy Gang Vanish Mama Bear is the only one without a power unlock

[@BendySlayerX]

But also that could be just a coincidence

[@TheWonTrueDragon]

@@BendySlayerX I'm pretty sure what he means is that the powers Doug got were similar in use to creatures he evaded prior to getting said power and as such makes sense as to why the creatures act the way they do. The Monkeys got eraged and rush doug after he collects the shards which is speed boost, Agatha had the teleport ability, Gold Watchers always knew where you were and when you were watching them for Telepathy, Ducks were the first intro to Stunning meaning Primal Fear, Clowns are a bit more vague but they are the only ones that invite you in and surround you with sheer numbers which I guess represents Telekinesis, and finally the cloaking from the Nurses making invisibility. Joy Joy Gang doesn't technically have a power unlock either as the power unlock comes from the piece of ring obtained from the hospital.

[@KTWhatsup]

@@TheWonTrueDragon I did hear a rumor (don’t ask where) that when entering the Mannequin portal once part 1 is complete, we have an obstacle in the hall way. As we didn’t get a new ring piece in Bearly Buried, it could mean we might get a new power from the Mascot Mayhem ring piece. I believe the power is either strength or cloning. Strength as in Hangry’s power because Lucky has speed boost which we already have and Penny can stun us which we can already do. And cloning because the Joy Joys have a lot of clones, so Doug could spawn copies of himself to distract the mannequins while he “Run for his life” although that might a bit too op

[@neonalien5479]

8:42 one fact I need to mention, when Penny flys like that, it doesn't make her faster or slower at all.... XD

[@Pauli-dg2yv]

2:30 William Afton: Ah, another genius like me. I wanna meet your creators

[@peakymonkey2019]

Fun fact: Lucky is a rabbit because a rabbit's foot represents luck

[@KTWhatsup]

Lol yes

[@TheYeetsAreComing]

That can also tie into how he's so fast, get it? Rabbit foot?

[@RandomPurplePerson]

Wut

[@SlipknotFan01]

His name maches that statement

[@DevilArcanaXV]

What if it’s the other way around?

[@janmarcocervantes1601]

They're the only ones who stopped Doug Houser from escaping. I guess they're pretty lucky after all. I think the Joy Joy Gang represents gluttony or treachery.

[@eleanorcooke7136]

I think maybe violence or anger. I guess the murder monkeys would have that too and it would require a bit of reshuffling but just Lucky's death animation shows it, just the continual punches also the bombs and Penny's eggs. Also Hangry bursting through walls is a very violent move.

[@rogueone3722]

I literally was JUST wondering about when this video was coming out, beautiful timing

[@chongogamer3811]

Same.

[@jchawn]

same i just happens to check shb channel if there is new video and there it is

[@alexanderdahms4001]

@@jchawn evry 3 day

[@jchawn]

@@alexanderdahms4001 thank you!

[@ireallylikenuggets9490]

I think its interesting how Hangry is so blinded by hunger that in his first stage, before we break his jaw off, he still tries to stuff you in his mouth even though it’s clear his mouth isn’t large enough, so all he really does is headbutt you

[@EpicGamer_SansheeFreddy]

6:20 *You think you’re special just because you threw Penny the Chicken? You’re no better than the rest.*

[@madmax9664]

God I’m hooked on this twisted world now

[@lelescarlet7184]

Same here! I think the story and the way the world tells the story is fascinating. Although I probably won’t play this game since it’s tough as nails and my sense (or lack thereof) of timing would definitely screw me over. But I’m content with learning about the story of the game.

[@aidanke9]

@@lelescarlet7184 I used to hate dark deception, but I watch one video and now all I think about is this absolutely amazing game, and now I’ve downloaded it.

[@cactusman3397]

@@aidanke9 why did used to hate it?

[@GameJunkyard11]

@@cactusman3397 I'm guessing it's because DD also relies on animatronics and somewhat cliché "kid friendly guy who turns out to be scary" monsters, and some scenes are a bit cringe with all the overly friendly behaviour of the monsters. But that's the only complaint I have with the game. Otherwise DD is a fantastic and unique game concept with an actual fun factor and challenge unlike most horror games these days which only rely on jumpscares and boring cameras with no focus on fun gameplay.

[@aidanke9]

@@cactusman3397 thought it was scary

[@Daniel_Coffman]

Is anyone else imagining Hangry shouting, "OH YEAH!" every time he busts through a wall? I'm sure people will get that reference, lol.

[@gaso3035]

Probably wrong but Murray?

[@Daniel_Coffman]

@@gaso3035 I don't know any Murray. I was referencing the Kool Aid Man, lol.

[@gaso3035]

@@Daniel_Coffman oh ok I have no idea who that is

[@oohlalaitsthegoofyman1715]

@@gaso3035 look the koolaid man up

[@RIRIRIRIRIRI884]

@@oohlalaitsthegoofyman1715 LOL

[@josephfox7068]

I just love the way Hangry says "I'm a pig!" when you first meet him.

[@bettergaming2321]

8:04 "Who's going to take photos with me now?" 🤣

[@AnaxErik4ever]

The “joy kill” comment in Doug’s memories, and the connection to “adults who could care less about the characters their spawn drag them to see”, are crucial to explaining this world. Popular horror franchise Five Nights at Freddy’s obviously inspired the unsettling nature of the Joy Joy Gang, from their appearances to the fact that a puppet master is controlling them, intent on devouring souls/bodies of adults. Malak is the master in this case, rather than a fellow lost soul in Circus Baby, William Afton or the Puppet. Animal souls in these creatures rather than humans’ souls… an interesting idea.

[@thatonecutiewiththegoodnov7862]

Mama bear represents abusive mothers. Maybe that's Doug's childhood &/or it represents his relationship with his child.

[@AnaxErik4ever]

@@thatonecutiewiththegoodnov7862 I think it represents both, since abusive parents often turn out to have been abused themselves as children. A never ending cycle of fear, pain, and trying to outrun the past.

[@shadowstar8619]

That does remind me of what the Phone Guy says on the fourth night in FNaF 2. The Toy animatronics get along perfectly with kids, and are even fiercely protective of their young visitors. However, with adults like the kids' parents and even the pizzeria staff, they're known for being excessively creepy and even outright hostile, and that's just during the day. It could just be a result of their facial recognition programming always searching for potential dangers to the children, but the parallel is still there.

[@GameJunkyard11]

I think Lucky was created by Glowstick before FNAF came out, or at least before Springtrap was created

[@Menbreaker]

@@GameJunkyard11 This stage was being made/created at least in 2021 January and FNAF 3 was made in 2015. Even if Lucky's model looks oddly similar to springbonnie that doesn't mean it's made before FNAF 3.

[@Arutax]

I don't know if it's just me, but Lucky reminds me of William Afton for some reason, besides the fact that Lucky largely resembles what Afton would've worn when he lured those Children in to kill them.

[@dali3839]

Probably 'cause the man is stuffed inside a dang rabbit costume...

[@jimmy6839]

Actually joy joy gang was about to be in the game years ago because dark deception was in early access and fnaf came after so dont say vince copied fnaf

[@Lucifronz]

@@jimmy6839 Copy is a strong word, but if you don't see the obvious references, you're fooling yourself. It has many homages to FNaF. Right down to the children celebrating stock sounds in their initial song. They are literally animatronic children's entertainment animals. No way in hell you make something like that without knowing about, and being influenced by, FNaF. Period.

[@dream_walker9726]

So I’m not the only one-🤣

[@Harlz_2007]

Lucky did remind me of glitchtrap first time is saw him

[@jasonk205]

I still don't understand why Doug didn't use his primal fear ability in the end cutscene. He could have gotten away like he did in that cutscene in the torment therapy level.

[@tonkababic9826]

Probably a plot thing to able to continue the story further

[@KTWhatsup]

Maybe he was in a panic and forgot. After all, Malak and a whole army of Luckys, Hangrys and Pennys were on his tail

[@Skemati]

Its because you can't stun the army of clones at the end sequence. So even if he did stun joykill the clones would still catch up to him.

[@KTWhatsup]

@@Skemati yeah

[@STATEofDREAMlNG]

@@Skemati No, if he used primal fear or teleported behind Joy kill, he would have easily escaped.

[@TheMobHunter100]

10:18 imagine if this thing was actually a secret character in transformers series lol

[@th_Wall_Boi]

Like a failed attempt of a Combiner?

[@derple8524]

The Joy Joy gang might be my favorite, thanks to their diverse personalities and their conversations with each other.

[@BergmitetheBlueandPointy0712]

I always think the Joy Joy Gang symbolizes Pride, like greed is to the Gold Watchers, because how cocky Lucky is.

[@animal5085]

Gluttony represents Hangry as well

[@SpairM]

Lust would definitely be the Reaper Nurses

[@curtiswilluweit9202]

@@SpairM Though the Reaper Nurses act in a reverse lust manor,despising how lustful men are,using their s3x appeal as a downright weapon/"deception"(Hehe.) method.

[@scott_needshelp1408]

I predict mannequins are vanity

[@Combes_]

Mama bear is wrath

[@bluegold1026]

The joy joy gang are, without question, my favorite enemies so far. So much personality and humor. I’d certainly hug them if they weren’t in their twisted, corrupted form we see in the game.

[@Boxdx2]

7:59 SQUISHY LOOK WHAT U DID TO MY FACE! U MADE ME UGLY WHOS GONNA TAKE PHOTOS WITH ME NOW

[@Boxdx2]

9:30 OVER THERE!

[@Automaton_unit]

Nobody wants to take pictures with you IF YOU DIDN'T EAT THEM ALIVE

[@SmilingPerson_EXE]

Me:"Your mom,if you aren't motherless"

[@Starlight-VA]

Ima just say whoever voices lucky is very talented! He gives such a villainous voice and very chaotic!!!

[@rawlicious3790]

5:42 Glowstick Entertainment really went detail on this Note: the nose wiggles and I think it's cute

[@exeexterminator1647]

Why are yellow and purple murderous rabbits so popular nowadays? Glitchtrap and Lucky are pure examples but also Mr. Hopp is a murderous rabbit. Also they all want to kinda steal souls from you or something similar to it.

[@poopetpaulyt3528]

I think the Joy Joy Gang represents a few of the deadly sins. Lucky is pride, Penny is lust, And Hangry is gluttony

[@estebangutierrez160]

Well Cuddles... I mean Bonnie I mean Lucky could also represents Wrath.

[@poopetpaulyt3528]

@@estebangutierrez160 true but lucky does pride himself in everything

[@ninjabee8973]

Penny is more to vanity

[@RainbowMetal]

Why is Penny lust!? I mean,Lucky as pride,clear as crystal Hangry as gluttony,obvious But Penny as lust?lust!?

[@poopetpaulyt3528]

@@RainbowMetal I mean penny literally gives Doug a pet name

[@MegaLpso]

I'm not sure about the whole animals thing and Penny being in love with lucky. Just because Penny has one line saying "lucky, I found him" doesn't mean she loves him. And I think what E meant by "they aren't human souls" I think it chould mean that they are just demons possessing the animatronics. Especially lucky, because lucky is sadistic and full of himself.

[@mindsweeper2039]

Well, Vince has confirmed that penny admires lucky during a q&a livestream (I forgot which one). The animal souls however, I am not too sure about it, so hey, I won't disagree with your opinion on what joy joy gang are. Sorry for the long comment lol

[@GameJunkyard11]

@@mindsweeper2039 your comment is literally shorter than OP's comment lol

[@mindsweeper2039]

@@GameJunkyard11 oh

[@FuchsiaRosa]

@@mindsweeper2039 admire and love mean 2 different things

[@mindsweeper2039]

@@FuchsiaRosa yeah, but at least we know that penny has some sort of feelings towards lucky. (Admiration or maybe love (I swear, lots of fan art are gonna be made from thus, I guarantee it)) But honestly, I don't really care. I mainly focus on the game mechanics and the game itself more than the story.

[@sunsetlover123-y7c]

**Warning, This Comment may contain spoilers to CH4 if anybody hasn't played it or watched footage, if you haven't done any of that, and you don't want Spoilers, don't go down any further! You have been warned.** Notice how dark deception enhanced hinted at the CH4 bosses' mechanics? Chef Monkeys = The Matron The Boss is some kind of chase sequence. (The Matron being put in a car chase and the Chef Monkeys just chasing you to the Ring piece.) Agatha = Joykill (Survive in a room for as long as you can until the door opens.) *(Bierce even says the same line and everything when the door opens, she says "It's open!" for Agatha's boss fight and even for joykill's boss fight aswell!)* Titan Watcher = Mega Mama *(I gave the mama bear boss a nickname and everything lol)* (Both having them trying to kill you during the escape sequence.) Edit: Okay can we acknowledge how lucky looks like he's holding the text in the thumbnail? Lol-

[@manglepony548]

yessss

[@toast7922]

We can acknowledge that

[@breadbug6101]

oh my god he does

[@mallgoth]

How did I not notice that in the thumbnail 😭

[@kimberfanta]

From what I can see in the characters, they each represent the sins of violence (Lucky), gluttony (Hangry), and pride (Penny). My second thought is maybe they all represent the sin of treachery? That’s the only sin that’s left.

[@Jarock316]

Lucky could represent Pride.

[@thatonecutiewiththegoodnov7862]

Penny may be both PRide & Vainity

[@kimberfanta]

@@Jarock316 You’re right! He could be Pride as well. He even claimed himself to be the lucky one who never loses.

[@kimberfanta]

@@thatonecutiewiththegoodnov7862 I think Vainity is the same as Pride.

[@Grapefruitforrest]

The joy joy gang might represent different types of gluttony. Lucky with his ego. Hangry with food, most common type And penny with her looks and doug. (Not to be confused with vanity/pride)

[@a1d3n18]

I just realized, when the three become joykill, lucky sounds like lolbit a bit

[@kicker19539]

Hangry clearly needs a kool-aid “ooh yeah” sound effects every time he breaks through a wall

[@GGorsty]

This thing around 10:09, it's laughter reminded me strongly of flowey from Undertale.

[@superspicymango3247]

Oh my gosh you’re right

[@drowarcher4208]

During the reconstruction scene, starting at 9:48 Malak just stands there, as if he zoned out.

[@Blackheartgamer1]

It’s cool how Tara strong plays the nurse and chicken 🥰

[@purplelily2608]

I think she also plays mama bear.

[@Robbie0208]

I didn't know she played the chicken. She's awesome!

[@Pikachu-hs1wn]

@blackheartgamer1 she also played mama bear but her playing penny was a surprise when I found out lol

[@xaitiie8485]

@@purplelily2608 yes she does, she plays mama bear, Reaper Nurse and Penny the chicken, oh and of course agatha!

[@KTWhatsup]

@@xaitiie8485 actually, she doesn’t voice Agatha. Agatha has the same voice actress as the Matron, (“Kathryn Cressida”)

[@pauljakeasignacion8415]

7:10 : ITS ME KOOL AID MAN IM IN A SHAPE OF A PIG FORE SOME REASON i think its because of quarantine

[@joeypaplekaj631]

I know why the Joy Joy Gang beats Doug with their fists: They tenderize the meat so they can feed Doug to Hangry.

[@triphat5929]

The Joy Joy Gang are quite frightening. However, they aren't the most horrifying monsters in the game... I'm looking at you, Mama Bear.

[@triphat5929]

@TheFavoriteBacon Indeed.

[@lvegore_]

It's true tho

[@kayjones1824]

I played the game and when I got them scared I literally screamed at the top of my lungs

[@estebangutierrez160]

The Poison Ivy sounding bear.

[@mossypanda7575]

Trueeeeee she's bloody terrifying

[@Turtle-Melon]

"Hi, I'm Hangry! I'm a pig" I love how that line was delivered in the game

[@scarletred616]

Tara Strong was booming in this chapter

[@Cure_Hana]

7:58 Literally all I hear is Truffles from Chowder whenever Penny speaks. 😂

[@syrusangi8743]

@@Cure_Hana Oh My GOD ur right!! I didn't realize it till u mentioned it XD

[@YouKnowImOnMyPeriodYah]

Lucky is my favorite character. My guy is chaotic evil and I can respect it

[@videogameguy1233]

Escaping: *Exists* Joy Joy Gang: *Sorry, we dont do that here.*

[@MackerSlack]

I love the fact that the joy gang just beats the hell out of dough unlike the other creatures

[@theAudaciousAudacity]

Fr, man got jumped before he can even touch the portal

[@alexanderdahms4001]

@TheFavoriteBacon then got yeeted by a pig

[@ExtraBloxxer]

Remember the Clown Gremlin's third attack where he triple combos your face off?

[@katielancaster6178]

The Joy Joy Gang are literally just a animatronic mafia that beat you to death. I love em-

[@HatofMemes]

So like the guys from regular show?

[@Noah977_e]

superhorrorbro: 12:27 Stun, teleport ability: are we a joke to u????

[@FNaFan-tk6pu]

I don't know if the people who made the Joy Joy Gang tried to do a reference to Five Nights at Freddy's because the Joy Joy Gang are animatronics and are at a abandoned amusement park and in F.N.a.F they are animatronics at a pizzeria who was closed. Hangry= Pork Patch Lucky= Glitch Trap Penny= Chica But I like your theories

[@KTWhatsup]

Hangry could also represent Pigpatch

[@KonroMan]

Lucky is my favorite purely because of his personality and accent. It’s just so funny. (Also he straight up wombo combos you as one of his death animations)

[@newzieneighbor4202]

I wanna put my theory out here lol I theorize that the Joy Joy Gang are different forms of crazy serial killer types, or mentally insane people. After all, if you think about it, the whole of Chapter 4 has to do with mentally unstable people in different ways. Doug's mom(Aka Mama Bear), Doug's wife(Aka the Reaper Nurses) and then the Joy Joy gang. I view Hangry is a cannibal, Lucky is a manipulator/psychopath and Penny is basically like a Yandere (a person who's obsessed with their lover and will kill for them, but in Penny's case, she just loves the squishing of flesh.) And if we wanna get technical for Doug's connection to these guys, I theorize that Doug was bullied back in highschool by someone like Lucky and had a girl obsessing over him like Penny. Hangry I'm not so sure on though. I hope you like my theory!

[@kaydog2161]

Interesting theory, ngl!

[@Wynn_The_Gamer]

That's a good theory, but it's debunked by E's words, their souls aren't human souls

[@newzieneighbor4202]

@@Wynn_The_Gamer Even if E says they aren't human, serial killers and criminally insane people could be marked as "inhuman" I just thought that's what E meant lmaoo (But I completely see your point! Thank you!)

[@shadowninja1059]

I mean Hangry could represent cannibalism since there was a killer who loved ribs to the point he killed other people to eat their ribs

[@Mellow502]

I see hangry as people who will ask you for lunch moneys

[@AcerolaWithAKnife]

5:11 Sounds familiar

[@zcr1t1cal33]

Ya'll realize that Lucky was technically right about never losing as far as we know i mean not many people can outrun someone with a speedboost

[@18TheStorm]

I'm not sold on the idea that they contain animal souls... do we have any evidence of Doug being abusive towards animals? Bierce given she sacrificed a child might well have done the same to an animal first, but I can't say I remember that. I rather thought E was implying that these characters contained demons souls as opposed to human

[@thatonecutiewiththegoodnov7862]

What if Bierce was the reason Tammy died? Like, if Bierce used her powers or had Malek set things up to get Tammy in danger. Tammy was just 12 when she died.

[@13thKingMu]

@@thatonecutiewiththegoodnov7862 no,she was already in the car when her mother was driving probably after school and at the same day,Doug switch her medical to sleep pills which cause both her and Tammy died to car accident. Doug before the car accident never cared about both of his wife and daughter because of his abused mother and childhood and when he realized it,it's too late and he wanted to redeem himself by using ritual like how Malak said during Doug backstory

[@seaweednori7652]

I mean not everything has to be connected, has doug ever met monkeys in a hotel or rubber ducks in a sewer

[@medusathedecepticon]

From what Malek said during his confrontation with Bierce, each of the monsters are supposed to be her nightmares. They can also represent other souls nightmares but in different ways. For Doug the Joy Joy Gang could represent either what SuperHorrorBro mentioned about the joy being sucked out of his life by his wife and child or it could represent an unhappy childhood. With how his mother was I imagine she wouldn't even think of letting Doug have any joy during his childhood.

[@rawlicious3790]

@@medusathedecepticon with the fact she locked him in a closet for a bunch of hours (I think?) That last one made sense

[@croissandra2902]

I love how hangry only wants to kill Doug because he gets ribs😭😂

[@moonieistired7263]

I mean- Mans has good priorities if I do say so myself-

[@chbao5041]

I mean it fits his name he hangry

[@heavy4173]

"Hangry is also one of the strongest in the Gang in terms of Pure Brute Strength" I have yet to meet one that can Outsmart Bullet..

[@thekelc7243]

Idk who the voice actor is for the rabbit, but his voice feels so… perfect, u kno? I can almost listen to his voice all day. I will say most of the rest of the voice acting is awesome as well

[@Senzunia]

if hangry weren’t evil, I’m sure he’d be the type of guy to run a pub

[@RapCattiez]

Or probs get the ladies quickly without even saying anything

[@RainbowMetal]

The fact I can imagine both of your guys' things makes this so much better

[@moonieistired7263]

He’ll run the best pub with barbecue ever Do they even have pubs with barbecues??? I don’t know I don’t live in a place where pubs are prominent

[@RainbowMetal]

@@moonieistired7263 I'm pretty sure that some pubs have barbecues

[@Honey_G1]

In England the entire country has pubs everywhere, like literally EVERYWHERE

[@wut.mimikyu8937]

5:50 let us all not forget that lucky still in the end technically has not lost yet lol

[@KiiXii]

0:08 POV: you’re the kid who stole the soap dispenser and I find you.

[@t-dude352]

It is I who stole the soap You’ll never find me

[@mediamuncher6982]

0:49

[@eternalterrors6824]

"you already know who it is boi😈"

[@foodieyumiko5593]

Is it weird that I REALLY like the Joy joy gang? They're terrifying, yet comedic at the same time I hope they get a sequel or something

[@nightcoremusic1398]

Well, Vince says they're making a reapperance in CH5 :)

[@memer5124]

12:29 Bruh just teleport behind him

[@DarkFactory]

I love Lucky the rabbit so much!!!

[@myyamamama]

Me too!

[@thewatertastesfunny]

you guys love to beat people to death cuz lucky does that

[@eleanorcooke7136]

@@thewatertastesfunny yeah, don't you?

[@thewatertastesfunny]

@@eleanorcooke7136 in games yes

[@hudaadlina3702]

Same coz he's actually cute

[@ZenGamer360]

Doug just walking back in fear: Me if I was Doug: *takes out tablet and uses primal fear / teleport / vanish (any would work really)

[@Havokz16]

ikr

[@Madmankey13]

Stun them all, get to the portal. Its that simple

[@Jarock316]

You still have Malak to contend with.

[@ZenGamer360]

@@Jarock316 bro just teleport after you stun everyone then. Malak's too slow to compete with a teleport

[@galacticmosquito8934]

bro if there was a gigantic killer robot walking towards you you'd freeze in fear

[@novocaineeyes5432]

1:59 I also just noticed that the members are all technically based on prey animals, all that are considered “edible” including to humans. Not that this would be important to the characters or anything, just a thought

[@Combes_]

They gonna revenge

[@moonrunner22000]

The best line in the entiredy of d d. "Hi, im hangy! Im a pig." Its cute

[@sxlproductions]

I love how In the sense of it Malak either wrote or supervised over the song that lucky sung Malak hearing the first draft:no no no!not friendly enough!

[@Combes_]

And not CRINGEY enough

[@juicymango8400]

12:13 can we all agree that whoever played is very good at the game

[@thebadoleshub]

Its basicly shb

[@davonbenson4361]

I have a theory. What if the Joy Joy Gang monitored Doug’s progress in the previous nightmares. This explains why they were able to successfully capture him.

[@DevilArcanaXV]

Or lucky is just lucky

[@jennawebb4225]

Ooor maybe Malak just told them before Doug entered the realm, that probably explains why Malak rarely speaks to him or tries to stop him from entering. But hey that's just a theory, a game theory

[@Nutri-Ventures-BlueKingdom]

I love how Lucky the Rabbit refers to the fantasy story of "The Rabbit and the Tortoise".

[@SlapDash00]

I like that when lucky just gets to you he rapidly punches you and penny throws an egg just killing her baby

[@edenengland1883]

i hate how during the cutscene our character just gives up despite having so many different powers at his disposal like, primal fear? teleport? nah screw that ill just stand there and do nothing

[@HatofMemes]

You can't stun the JJG clones at the end of the level, even if you try. So if Doug stunned Joykill, he'd still have to worry about the JJG clones.

[@SamuraiDoggo14]

I thought they were gangsters or mafia enforcers in life.

[@kaiempress9362]

SHB: "Its quite startling to say the least.." Me when hangry came through the wall: *-Jumps-* OK HE WAS CORRECT!

[@quantumtabbylargo7457]

I've swam with reaper leviathans before, I no longer fear them, *BUT ITS THE LOUD NOISES!*

[@Lady_Rennie]

If you watch closely, when Lucky grabs the player, he actually jams his thumbs into their eyes to blind them.