The Junko that we knew... | Danganronpa [70]

As we inch ever closer to the finale, the students dive deep into some very strange conspiracy theories
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[@samanthanicklin8130]

"We were so absorbed in what Celeste was wearing." Celeste would want it that way.

[@Garbage_collector1]

"it's not gonna work between us. I'm a virgo and you're a fucking murderer!" - dan my favorite quote

[@tetsujin_144]

I on the other hand, am a Gemini, so I never know what to expect. (collapses dead from a sudden arrow wound..)

[@eanovak8429]

🏆 Agreed.

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

Astrology is such bullshit. I would know 'cause I'm a Leo and we're natural-born skeptics.

[@passingdem0n303]

Wait... so it WON'T work between me and Junko?! I'm hopelesly in despair...

[@PSVitaat2am]

He does have a point!

[@BossALKENO]

Fun fact, “Junko’s” favorite thing to be gifted in game is an MRE. Something a soldier would like

[@cn.st.182]

Yeah, soldiers just LOVE eating MREs, especially eating them while in civilian life as well.

[@nesurame]

@@cn.st.182 Yeah but you can use the heater pack as a little bomb for fun

[@BlackRosesBloom-Emily_Rose]

@@cn.st.182 My sister (Captain in the army) got a whole box of MREs for nostalgia purposes and to put in her own car just in case. She said some are pretty okay, but others are garbage lmao

[@power1990]

And she seems kind of confused by the fashion luggage and shit like that.

[@jroggs85]

It depends on the MRE. Some aren't too bad. But try and give someone who's spent time in the military a ratatouille MRE and no amount of precocious teenagers will be able to solve your gruesome murder.

[@Sayori393]

The way Makoto just says: “DAMN STRAIGHT!” Is so out of character it’s hilarious I love it 😂

[@mateod1112]

I'm having an existential crisis right now from it

[@hatboi124]

I flipping love Makoto.

[@kirbyfanprime]

It feels like he's just matching with Junko's flow and just started cursing back so it sounded like he wasn't totally confused by what was going on in front of him.

[@Sayori393]

@@hatboi124 Same he’s so adorable, I wanna fluff his hair ☺️

[@tayhillock]

I have no idea how Arin and Dan just ignored him saying that too 😂

[@insanenoire7154]

“If they’re twins how can one be older?” Do you guys know how babies are born??

[@michaelbugner7011]

He thought junko had nuts, so I'm guessing no.

[@kyocerii1924]

@@michaelbugner7011 Wait huh.....like thought junko was a guy??

[@Samas-tq4bw]

@kyocerii no he said kick her in the nuts like the phrase, he doesn't think she's a dude, he was being silly

[@DarkAkuma]

Clearly, when twins are born its an all out brawl. Like two fat people stuck in a door trying to catch the ice cream truck as it passes, neither allowing the other to go first.

[@petedamato354]

mius my wifu

[@jordy8413]

Dan remembering when Makoto said Junko looks different from her photos + her claiming photoshop, and Arin being like “nah” was slightly infuriating

[@kalekoi]

-Dan remembering when Makoto said Junko looks different from her photos + her claiming photoshop, and- Arin -being like “nah”- was -slightly- annoying

[@dowfreak7]

The audacity of insisting that they look "exactly the same" LITERALLY after we get a picture of fake Junko with the freckles and the different eye shape AND then the followup with "they're twins" was just baffling to me. The game literally goes "here, compare, they look slightly different and the reason they don't look more different is that they're twins" and Arin just keeps on trying to be angry.

[@Crim_Zen]

Yaaa... he has some selective memory, but he is the one playing, so I get why he has tunnel vision. It's easier when you are the spectator.

[@justcommoncurt]

"OK but why would they photoshop her to look like Mukuro Ikusaba her whole career" That part made me die inside...

[@XxEclipsedChaosxX]

The true Junko was the friends we lost along the way

[@shinpixypixel7368]

OMG I laughed so hard at this xD

[@pazz1239]

Then Ultimate despair was never the same again

[@EliasMorals]

this was funnier than i expected haha

[@videonaterAD]

A beautiful comment thank you

[@madlink3495]

The true lost was the Junko we way along the friends.

[@HannahTheHedgehog253]

Man Dan’s “Easy dude, relax” held such a genuine level of concern Also we’re really in the endgame now babey!!

[@Jeb.07]

Yeah Arin’s made it very obvious he doesn’t like the game and that sounded like Dan’s attempt to keep things together so they can at least finish the playthrough

[@quantumjoss]

It’s something I wish Dan had said a lot more throughout this play through

[@LLindo]

And I was so grateful, it was getting really grating. Like just hold your complaints for a second and hit A so it can be cleared up... please.

[@eanovak8429]

I'm with Arin; hate this repetitive trash "game." Even the comedic genius of GG can't redeem dreadful writing. After investing 70 fricken episodes, I want an ENDING.

[@LLindo]

SEE! I'm mid watch right now and at 28:29 he points out (venomously) how Mukuro would feel being murdered by her own sister but Junko's next line is LITERALLY THAT POINT just chill the fuck out it'll address your feelings and it feels bad when Dan feels like he has to play into it but usually his points are still more accurate and measured. I don't hate Arin, obviously I come and watch GG everyday it's great; but christalltitty the behavior sometimes... well I guess we get what we "paid" for!

[@CodingItWrong]

Arin is only disdainful of this game at two times: when he doesn't know what's happening, and when he does know what's happening.

[@godblessfaiz]

Wait a second thats the whole game!

[@D14MBK]

Well yeah...? That's the entire game dude what?

[@stephsaguudefan1753]

@@D14MBK Whoosh

[@ologyofeverything]

Yeah its kinda annoying tbh. Like he does have legit complaints, but its hard to hear him out when he complains about everything. Its either this game is so dumb it makes no sense, or pftttttt this game is so stupid a child could do it.

[@Vice_Verse0]

@@ologyofeverything Rule #1 Arin has never made a legitimate complaint ever. He's merely a dude who considers something he doesn't like a flaw. That's not a flaw. How you feel about something isn't a flaw, it's a personal grievance. I understand people confuse the two often, but they're both not the same.

[@mrhades113]

Arin: "Why do they look the same? it makes no sense!!" Game: "They're twins." Arin: ...

[@arcanealchemist3190]

to be fair to arin they didnt say that for a while after revealing her real face.

[@DestinyDevistation]

@@arcanealchemist3190 theres still noticable differences

[@sp1cyn0va35]

@@DestinyDevistation I knoooow and he’s like they’re exactly the same. But you can clearly see freckles and different eye sizes

[@andreseh87]

So instead of making no sense it's just bad writing.

[@tellmeninetails5819]

@@andreseh87 No arin's just dumb. Mukuro also has freckles.

[@sunshinekid022]

I can’t get over Makoto yelling “Damn straight!” While circus music bops in the background

[@Maloz-se1rf]

That's not the only time he curses and yes it is VERY funny

[@miguelnewmexico8641]

pardon my French, but i'm hecking cheesed right the flip off.

[@Epheleb]

"DAMN STRAIGHT is what I'm not!"

[@D.W56]

@@Epheleb byakuya likey

[@lilykat.]

@@Epheleb He's gotta have his Kyoko tho

[@juiceyborger]

"there's a certain amount of suspension of disbelief that's required to enjoy this game" happy to see dan gets it. maybe a realistic analysis isn't the tool for an anime game about a murder school

[@Meepminer]

But "murder school" isn't exactly correct, that makes it sound like they teach murder at the school. Or like, the school's purpose is for murder. It's a killing game that takes place in an abandoned/discontinued school.

[@CypressDahlia]

TBF I think this game might require even more suspension of disbelief than most other anime "mystery" games. Tho I can still see why people love it due to the quirky writing and memorable characters.

[@index3876]

@@CypressDahlia IDK though, I feel like the game does a fairly good job of setting the tone and cluing you in to what to expect with characters like Monukuma, Sakura and Jill. It's not as if most of the game is played completely straight and just goes completely bonkers at select points--you have to stretch your credulity pretty far from the start.

[@CypressDahlia]

@@index3876 oh, of course. The game is pretty honest about what it is. It's just not my preferred style of storytelling.

[@juiceyborger]

@@CypressDahlia i know what you mean hahah, though i'm honestly okay with it since the game never really tries to claim to be "realistic", they just go with the ridiculousness. i do feel like the writers get better at weaving the crazyness into the game in a less jarring way in later games, or maybe we just come to expect it after the first one isk

[@jeremycapuder6684]

I love how Junko’s many personalities mimic the other students, as well as their poses. She’s emulating the other student’s way of speaking to mock them and confuse them!

[@nicknasty6369]

I didn't notice that!!! Now I get why in her first pose she's like covering her whole face with her hand in that strange pose, it's because she was being Byakuya, man now I gotta watch again

[@CinnoAJ]

Omggg yeah I just realised thank you!! and the cutsey one was Aoi and the insane tongue-out one was toko :0

[@brokensprites]

Holy shit, you're right

[@thepic4032]

I never noticed that, thank you for pointing that out! I guess this would leave the glasses Junko would be Kyoko, and her neutral self would be Makoto because of how neutral he is.

[@joceybear303]

@@CinnoAJ no, the insane one was genocide jill. The horny, crying, despair filled one was toko!

[@edithw-k7946]

Arin: WHY DOESNT IT ADDRESS MY PROBLEMS Game: Addresses his problems ARIN: UGHHH

[@leon46295]

Arin: ughh you already said that twice

[@HandsomeSassage]

It’s a crime that Dan didn’t get to revisit his Junko voice

[@caigashanterus1442]

Yeah that seriously threw me for a loop. "Hang on, that's not how I remember this scene sounding"

[@mr.redguard6702]

I really wanted Dan's Valley Girl voice to make a return

[@BoneChill8902]

Yeah that actually bothered me

[@kwameoliver2455]

Made me sad

[@mabe4322]

"What the fuck? I can't get any comeback-age!"

[@blataybragg7778]

Dan telling Arin to "take it easy dude, relax" when he was getting worked up and frustrated at the game gives me life. The savior of this series

[@Sydninny]

Seriously though like Dan actually enjoys this game because he doesn’t actively look for things to hate about it like Arin does.

[@quantumjoss]

This series would be unwatchable if not for Dan

[@kilroy7506]

I really wish that Dan did his own playthroughs of the other games because it’s awesome to see him go “no fucking way”. Unfortunately they probably won’t do the other games.

[@De_La_Evo]

yup, hit the nail on the head

[@ratsbelike]

his reaction when arin told him about junko last episode, i love 🤲

[@alvarofraiz5571]

I love how even Dan was like “dude relax” when Arin got worked up because he’s bad at the closing argument

[@nappyk96]

I love that how Arin trys to play the walkthrough things off like he hasn't used a walkthrough throughout this entire game except for closing arguments even though it's obvious he has.

[@moptentapus7718]

I can’t be the only one just yelling freckles continuously whenever they say they looked exactly the same-

[@dropkickcorpse]

And intro magazine Junko had bountiful tracts of land

[@ChiliChoccy]

You weren't.

[@jarrodoakley6911]

Obviously you are mistaken. Nothing slips past Arin’s deductive mind.

[@kalieffoster4607]

Not understanding

[@MrAwesomeMatty]

It's not just the freckles, either. It's the size of the eyes as well; Mukuro's are a bit smaller than Junko’s.

[@Mortimer107]

"But how can they be twins if one is older than the other?" RIP to the mother who expels both of her twins at *exactly* the same time.

[@TheBioshocksnake]

Yeah, like wtf was up with that, I don't even know how they could come to that conclusion.

[@jolenemathews]

How can Arin not know this obvious fact about twins, when he is LITERALLY MARRIED TO ONE, is beyond me

[@PSVitaat2am]

A question with no answer

[@g_trots7374]

I’ll admit, this was the part where I was shouting at the screen like “how do you think twins are born? How does the mother eject two baby heads out of her birth canal at the same time?!”

[@Balisades]

That point drove me crazy as well... thanks for calling it out 🤣

[@blt_elysian]

“This is absurd. I mean I love it-but this is absurd.” WELCOME TO DANGANRONPA, DAN.

[@blackdragoncyrus]

Junko's VA did a good job. She seemed like she had a lot of fun doing it.

[@Maken-X]

Yes. Her voice actress(es?) totally killed it.

[@user-ot5ot]

Lots of variety!!!

[@saltedsage]

Her calm VA is Toko's and her crazy one is Genocide Jill's!!! It's hard to unheard when you learn it.

[@juliantapia1407]

I love that chie is one of her voices

[@MoonlitLycan]

She has two, one of which she shares with Genocide Jill.

[@Mysteriouxx]

it's so funny seeing Arin getting caught up in the twin thing considering his wife is also a twin lmaoo

[@e.7504]

Wait, Suzy‘s a twin?!

[@Mysteriouxx]

@@e.7504 she is. They're identical too. They have a twin tag on the Mortem3r channel.

[@e.7504]

@@Mysteriouxx How come I‘ve never heard about this?

[@Shadowdreamer4]

oh yeah I totally forgot xD

[@Srmgmailcom]

I thought Suzy was Dan's wife?

[@fitzaidan6487]

Arin: she has the exact same eyes *doesnt have the same eyes

[@damienletner5499]

"Theres like a dating game after" yes arin. Yes there is.

[@_lemony_tart]

And you win panties....

[@mr.redguard6702]

@@_lemony_tart Wait what, does that actually happen ?

[@murpaderp8461]

@@mr.redguard6702 yes, it's pretty dumb

[@mr.e3123]

@@mr.redguard6702 theres a seperate mode in the game that is just dating the characters, as if the killing game never started. its so you can max out the social links you mightve missed because people died befor you could complete it.

[@thecoolassnose]

Arin is the ultimate despair of this playthrough

[@si-ficentral9562]

I’m glad to find out that my 43 minute older brother isn’t my twin because he is older thank you game grumps for clearing this up

[@Sektus69]

They are twins, born on the same day, so no, none of them is older, they are both the same age, these few minutes between pulling them out doesn't matter xD

[@isdel9474]

question: if you pull two lasagnas out the oven one at a time, but both are done at the same time, which is older?

[@ilovemymother1559]

The first

[@Jamjamsart]

@@Sektus69 semantics don't matter, like at all. the point isn't "they were born on the same day!" (which, in some cases, is not true. a day could go by before the other twin is born, or one could be born at 11 pm and the other at 12 am and be born on separate days), the point is this is VERY common for multiples to say. "i'm the oldest by an hour" or so. the point is Arin discredits the show for being realistic in how twins and so on talk about each other's age.

[@FriskyD.]

@@isdel9474 the left one, of course

[@BenjiNM2]

Arin keeps insisting that the closing argument doesn't make sense, even though Danny seems to be able to figure it out just fine without the walkthrough. Give Danny the controller in Danganronpa 2, please.

[@darkrogue9158]

ye mostly from Danny actually paying attention to the story and having a longer attention span then Arin plus Arin wouldn't stop complaining about things in a *mystery game* not making sense while he looked at the clues and took them in the wrong direction then (sometimes) refused to drop the direction even after he's proven wrong

[@Samantha-vg5ro]

@@darkrogue9158 but Celeste was wearing the same clothes she always wears in every picture! Pictures of animated characters that almost never change clothes! THAT HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING! (This needs to go in the disappointed tone “Oh Arin” compilations lol)

[@Ravensgale]

It doesn't make sense because Arin's too busy making fart noises and not paying attention for the closing argument to make sense.

[@darkrogue9158]

@@Samantha-vg5ro yep

[@alexhiser4073]

@@Samantha-vg5ro to be fair celeste wearing the same clothes was pretty weird even though she was just standing around in each picture. But he just needs to understand she is just at peak goth

[@mr.redguard6702]

Kyoko: I'm actually impressed, you figured everything out Byakuya: Indeed, looks like you're not the idiot sandwich I though you were Makoto: Well thank you guys, so...um your welcome for figuring it all out? Byakuya: Don't push it

[@PSVitaat2am]

Yup typical Byakuya!

[@rebbit8767]

Fun fact: Toko and Junko share the same voice actress, and she is freaking amazing

[@Catpuff818]

Holy shit, I hope they paid her welll.

[@murpaderp8461]

honestly, two great performances

[@sauvagess]

is also Jinx in League of Legends, Peacock in Skullgirls, Angelic Buster in Maplestory, and...uh...a certain silly character in the upcoming Freedom Planet 2.

[@roryschussler]

@@murpaderp8461 or like... 9 performances, depending on how you look at it.

[@cosmickatt]

what is her name?

[@brantlancaster5021]

Eren "They look the the SAME!" Literally everyone: "THE FRECKLES!"

[@scourgeface]

and junko has much bigger eyes than mukuro 🤦

[@GrakSH]

@@scourgeface much bigger.... eyes... yeah for sure

[@_zealos_8213]

"Eren" Hanson the man that swore to kill all the titans

[@PaintSplash23]

SERIOUSLY!!!

[@mcflurryfrostie]

To be fair the game doesn't call attention to the freckles and I'm sure a lot of other people didn't notice that at first either (me included). It's easy to miss if you're not paying close attention to Mukuro's face. I did notice the bigger eyes tho, and I thought it was gonna be the eye color too until the real Junko reveal.

[@IZEASGT]

Twins don’t come out of the body at the same time, you know. (And yes, in Japan, the one born second WOULD call the other “nee-san” or somesuch.)

[@FireAndFoodCompany]

it's not like it's a common trope that first twins like to argue over being older despite it being a matter of minutes or anything

[@GTASAModder1]

... I drive a Nissan ...

[@jolenemathews]

Considering Suzy has a twin, you think he'd know

[@Girigo94]

@@jolenemathews No Arin knows how stuff work. He knows twins come out at the same time holding each other

[@ECM24]

I was going to comment something like this.

[@matagorta5]

Arin: “Imma be honest I’m using a walkthrough” We know lmao

[@lexfrost4394]

Where's the counter for number of times Arin has said this?

[@kotarodesu_23]

Be honest, y'all act like you've caught him using a walkthrough each episode when he's admitted to it as early as chapter 2. Neither y'all or Arin is slick so sit down.

[@soggybreads696]

@@kotarodesu_23 People are mainly mad he spoiled it for himself. Just like how he hinted in the beginning he spoiled it. At this point hes just *showing* dan the rest of the gane and isnt even enjoying it but still, im gonna watch it.

[@alkaidc9862]

@@kotarodesu_23 this lol

[@chubsreyes2425]

@@kotarodesu_23 I know he mentioned it so early, yet people think they're fucking smart and get fed likes for something he mentioned a long time ago.

[@pedrostormrage]

27:23 The "mushrooms on head" thing is an anime trope: it means the character is sad, since mushrooms grow in dark and damp places. There's a also Japanese word ("jimejime/じめじめ") that means both "damp, humid, wet" and "gloomy, depressing".

[@conspireing6014]

“I’m not even gonna pretend i’m using a walkthrough” It’s okay Arin, we’ve known.

[@QuesoGr7]

Plus it tells you what goes in each panel and he STILL hasn't figured that out! xD

[@quantumjoss]

He uses a walkthrough and he’s still confused. This is a baby game, it’s not hard, it’s barely a game at all, it’s just a book disguised as a game and Arin still sucks at it.

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

@@quantumjoss Well lah-di-dah, aren't you Mr. Videogames.

[@JustAdam123]

@@imveryangryitsnotbutter No Arin is just legitimately dumb

[@conspireing6014]

@@quantumjoss To be fair when I replayed 1 and 2 back in late october/november when they paused for ghoul grumps, I got stumped on questions that were either difficult or stupid, but I was able to figure out the most on my own. Also the order you use green bullet parts can be annoying. It’s also impressive that he’s able to do the Moment of Truth DDR mini games so well, without even needing to use the invincible ability

[@loony2unes]

"if one's older... they can't be" Yes they can Dan, technically someone has to come out first even if both came out on the same day, so one's older than the other.

[@markiemarkmar]

Do they not know how babies work?

[@jolenemathews]

Can you imagine how painful it would be if they came out together? *shudders*

[@boiboi5402]

They probably assumed they were talking "older" as in years instead of minutes/hours apart

[@maverickrx8]

Yeah, the level of stupid during this part was alarming. How the fuck do you think a woman can birth 2 fucking babies at the same exact time? Like, holy shit.

[@imveryangryitsnotbutter]

@@markiemarkmar That's why Suzy always insists on no front-door sex, it would be a fucking disaster if they actually conceived a child and she had to constantly explain to a panicking Arin that it takes 9 months to finish growing.

[@dalensaltzman9011]

arin: “the game’s logic is invalid if you consider that if they just looked at magazines of junko they would see that it was clearly an impostor” also arin: “i hate how they made junko and mukuro look identical”

[@enter_feeling6042]

Game : explains their logic Arin : doesn't understand Also Arin : "this is not logical"

[@theonegoldengryphon]

Makoto, at the beginning of the game: “Huh you look a little different than your pictures” “”””Junko”””: “Uh yeah it’s photoshop duh” I mean, I’m not surprised Arin completely forgot a hint the game dropped at the beginning of the game, but still.

[@cameronjadewallace]

They also missed that Mukuro had freckles, but I guess that's easy to overlook

[@Nikzzza]

Thicker eyeliner, and "smaller" eyes too. They're not same, but they're not ever shown instantly one after another in-game so unless you're paying attention you're not going to notice it that easily. (And I'm not 100% sure but I would also have to say that Junko's sprites seem to have bigger boobs than Mukoro)

[@nappyk96]

@@Nikzzza Almost positive Junko has bigger boobs than Mukaro I looked it up after I beat the game cause I thought of the same point and it's really obvious when you see them side by side the differences between the two.

[@TheCardboardClaymore]

"man it's really a coincidence that Junko and Mukuro look the same" repeat 15 times* finally finds out they're twins "Oh"

[@Melissa-zr6zw]

...in what world does anyone assume that two similar-looking people with _two different last names_ are biological twins?

[@carlotta4th]

In Dagonronpa where everything is contrived to try and confuse the player--therefore if something seems contrived it's basically a hint that the answer is something else entirely. xD

[@zjzr08]

@@Melissa-zr6zw Junko being a public figure could've had a stage name- or a more bizzare thing done in telenovelas where the twins have different dads.

[@swordsmanthegamernine7973]

@@zjzr08 prolly just the first one since she said the real answer is lame.

[@GeminiRosche]

He doesn’t want to admit “oh I’m a dumbass who just had to wait 2 minutes to get my answer”

[@GeminiRosche]

“Hope/Hopeless”: 7 “Despair”: 15 (including Junko’s title card) “The biggest most awful most tragic event in human history” count: 4 “Mukuro Ikusaba... the sixteenth student, lying hidden somewhere in this school. The one they call the Ultimate Despair. Watch out for her.” count: 6 *Masked knife wielder standing over Makoto’s bed* count: 19 “Kehehe... It’s a very polarizing approach, I know, but- okay, enough puns. Anyway, here’s a hint... ” count: 5

[@iminabox842]

Those despair and hope numbers are going to skyrocket pretty soon.

[@GeminiRosche]

@@iminabox842 yeah I’m working on an update as this episode goes

[@GeminiRosche]

Already updated, damn did despair skyrocket

[@Flannypoo]

NINETEEN?!

[@MediaMunkee]

How about a "Super" count

[@GuardianEPlays]

The most frustrating part of watching this is how Arin assumes there are plotholes that get immediately answered around the corner. He's just looking for problems without letting things resolve. Just let it happen, dude. You're not that much smarter than the game and you're using a walkthrough.

[@youthnando]

Watching this whole playthrough I thought would be fun. But man Arin makes it really hard to keep watching it.

[@sethhowell3067]

@@youthnando at this point I’m still watching because I’m so far in. If they do the other games, Dan needs to be the one playing no question

[@Samantha-vg5ro]

@@sethhowell3067 there’s probably only one, MAYBE two more episodes if Arin wastes time bitching about stuff instead of just ending it.

[@OrangeRomka]

I literally still watch this series cause of Dan, every time Arin says something just want to tell him to shut up. I've never seen someone so dead set on being wrong all the time.

[@JXGold]

He just says what comes to his mind. His Grumps persona is reactive way more than it is comprehensive. This game really walks you through stuff, and he just wants to be ahead of the curve... but as expected, fails frequently.

[@noxx7951]

Arin: “But why would they photoshop Junko to look like Mukuro her whole career?!?” Oh Arin, so close, yet so very very far.

[@De_La_Evo]

?

[@DarkAngel0805]

@@De_La_Evo He means that Arin got it backwards, the pictures in the magazines ARE Junko's face, but Mukuro (disguised as Junko) lied saying the pictures were photoshopped to explain why disguised Mukuro's face doesn't look like the magazine cover face.

[@TheBaconShaman]

@@DarkAngel0805 Which makes a fair bit of sense, considering that in Japan freckles are considered an imperfection and large eyes are considered cute. It would only be natural that "Junko's" freckles would be airbrushed away and her eyes would be made to look a touch larger.

[@De_La_Evo]

@@DarkAngel0805 yes, a little confused by the wording

[@amofro6612]

I presume the little fact about Mukuro and Junko wasn't revealed yet then, oh well EDIT: oh it was revealed they are twins

[@AlyxDG]

Junko mentioned very early in how all of those pictures were heavily photoshopped. It’s not that they’re actually photoshopped, that’s just an excuse for why the Junko at the school didn’t look like the Junko in the photos.

[@jolenemathews]

And besides looks, she acted totally different too

[@thecoolassnose]

At least someone is paying attention. Arin has truly become the ultimate despair of this playthrough

[@benanderson89]

Real reason for everything is that this game is extremely poorly written. Touching up photos is what actually happens with models. They're also supposed to be twins, so the Photoshop excuse doesn't work. They also had no idea how Junko acted upon arrival. As far as everyone was concerned, they had just met for the first time. Yeah the grumps have their moments of being dumb as bricks, but people need to just admit that this game's writing is just the dumbest shit.

[@AlyxDG]

@@benanderson89 Well, they’re fraternal twins so there would be differences.

[@starstreamheartlocke652]

@@benanderson89 How exactly does the photoshop excuse not work? Seemed pretty simple to me.

[@HarleyXaioyu]

And thus Arin never learned that the closing argument actually hints at/tells you what to put in each frame

[@kotarodesu_23]

To be fair, hint or not, the closing argument is terribly mind-numbing.

[@arduousPopsicle]

@@kotarodesu_23 at least in 3 they gave u questions lol

[@SatisfactoryBro]

@@arduousPopsicle you just gotta hover over it and click it, it does it in all dangan games lmfao

[@nicolasroy8481]

@@kotarodesu_23 it's really not

[@kotarodesu_23]

@@nicolasroy8481 To me it is. You go through the entire trial to piece everything together and the closing arguments has you do it again in a convoluted manner which leads the main character to explain everything once again hopefully for the last time ever. Terribly mind-numbing.

[@emi1807]

I like how the game never implies that Mukuro's disguise was perfect, even Makoto points that out and Mukuro says that she's photoshopped to look better on the magazines.

[@emi1807]

Oh hey, Dan pointed that out

[@darknight10000]

Yeah, it's a really great moment. That and how Mukuro was stunned that she was killed so early in the Killing Game. Those two moments are so obvious in hindsight. It was a great plot twist.

[@basedhomuraakemienjoyer9014]

It annoyed me how they kept pointing out that mukuro looked the same as Junko like yeah that was the whole point of the disguise

[@savhardt]

arin: doesn’t pay any attention at all also arin: “these final arguments don’t make any SENSE”

[@kittyloaf]

He never figured out the basic day one mechanic that if you click on the ? it gives you a hint. Like "the mastermind used this to frame Makoto" or whatever.

[@Girigo94]

The the final argument part is basically "ok now just explain how the case happened that we just told you" and with his 2 minute attention span that part is "bullshit" and "make no sense".

[@rickkcir2151]

Which is hilarious cause the final argument should be the easiest part of the trial. It’s literally just “now explain everything we went over”

[@newflesh666]

Toko - "I have a murderous alternate personality" Junko - "Just one? how quaint..."

[@Bobberation]

"Joke's on you! ALL my personalities are murderous!" -Junko, probably

[@Nesaru]

Junko technically does just have one personality. It just gets bored easily, so she changes things up to keep herself interested.

[@doppelRUSH]

Jill isn’t an alternate personality, Jill is Toko’s alter.

[@karnewarrior]

Not really alternate personalities. Junko's still wearing masks, just like Monokuma was a mask. I think we see her real personality later on and it's surprisingly mundane?

[@newflesh666]

I know Junko only actually has one personality and switches up her style to keep herself entertained, but that doesn't make for as interesting of a KZbin comment lol.

[@MustyMouse]

"I hate that these identical twins look the same" *disappointed Dan voice* Arin...

[@Slirthart]

Arin: "They're pretty identical" Anime in general: *sameface* *sameface* *sameface*

[@AdamSmith-qu5bv]

Besides colour, the faces of most of the remaining students are nigh identical. I think part of the reason so many anime characters have ridiculously extravagant hairstyles is because the mangaka that drew them needed a way for their audience to tell them apart besides their extremely similar faces.

[@alvisyahrin2276]

Are they gonna play the dating game mode of this game?

[@dowfreak7]

@@AdamSmith-qu5bv A certain face style also kinda makes the manga. You can instantly distinguish a One Piece character from an MHA character, simply by looking at the face/eyes and the general lines/shapes used. The extravagant hair styles/colours are also just part of the whole reason manga/anime is even a thing: It's to break out of the drab everyday life and show something fantastical and cool you wouldn't encounter usually.

[@Krebsmasquerade]

Arin: “I don’t get it. They look the same” Yeah... that’s the whole point of a disguise, you dingus.

[@koutsioj4762]

but if they look the same there was no reason for her face to be hidden in the photos

[@SebbyHonda]

@@koutsioj4762 if you look closely Mukuro had freckles and her eyes are more slanted as well as gray

[@koutsioj4762]

@@SebbyHonda I don't think the freckles were visible in the photos but I also don't care enough to check so... sure, whatever you say lol

[@riquepinheiro5171]

@@koutsioj4762 they don't fully look the same though,and it it would be more noticeable if you put them together in the same picture

[@jacobbrodeur2735]

@@koutsioj4762 There weren’t freckles in the photos because the photos were of Junko. Mukuro was the one with the freckles. Edit: I forgot about the first reply when making this comment. For some reason I thought we were discussing the magazine photos.

[@kodyjayvin]

I'm kinda surprised that an Artist like Arin didn't notice that the "Junko" from the flashback had freckles.

[@ArtisticallySpoken]

I mean I'm an artist too and I didn't notice. Many people noticed and I'm sure they're not _all_ artists.

[@scourgeface]

@@ArtisticallySpoken its just more likely an artist would notice

[@ArtisticallySpoken]

But it's not like they're just silently looking at artwork

[@arduousPopsicle]

I’m assuming he noticed and was thinking it wasn’t a big enough diff

[@dowfreak7]

Would be surprised if Arin even looked at the screen at that time. Probably too busy jostling through his myriad of walkthrough papers. The difference is actually pretty uncanny/glaring; no need to be an artist for that. It's also almost shown literally next to each other, so it's just Arin wanting to whine and ignoring reality in order to keep bullshitting. As usual.

[@DrowsyDowell]

It’s very faint, but mururo actually had freckles across her nose while Junko doesn’t. You’re first clue to that was the flashback to the magazines. But to be fair, I didn’t notice that until I watched it through again

[@JustAdam123]

Freckles and the shape of her eyes is completely different.

[@jakhar5]

Also her chest size.

[@hikikouri7254]

It's fair that a normal person might miss it but Arin was an artist and animator for years, how does he have so little attention to detail?

[@mrminecraftcubeable]

junko's eyes are blue (with contacts) and her hair is red( died pink) while mukuro has black hair and gray eyes

[@Kuuribro]

@@hikikouri7254 Being an animator doesn't immediately give you an eagle eye for all character details. It's a different headspace you put yourself into. My job is various kinds of production QA, I literally *have* to look for details like that, and I still go into a more passive mode when playing games or watching stories.

[@coenx1]

I can't imagine being someone who doesn't suspend their disbelief, as it is said, while playing a game or watching a movie. If it's something that's that bad, I can see pointing it out, but this is its own universe. You can't just expect things to all add up immediately to what we know.

[@eggymcsmeggy1750]

yeah, i 100% agree, and i had to walk away from johnny english because of that fucking VR scene. he goes around parading through town, thinking he's still on this moving platform (that stopped working) and his hand movements match his simulated ones, even though all he has are the goggles. the VR simulation replicates things hanging on the wall and has reasons for something happening to him, and it crossed the line so far for me.... and even with that being said, arin is definitely hyping up his grump persona a bit too much for this game. at least, this far into the series.

[@Korin6024]

Literally the first minute of the game is a teddy bear rocketing a man to his death. The writers couldn’t have made it any more clear on what type of universe this game will be set in

[@Vice_Verse0]

Well, there are two perspectives people approach media from, and these aren't official terms, but I'll use them to explain the point. One is called External Logic. This is the perspective where you view from an outside perspective of the media. Its a more detached perspective, where you never really get immersed into what you are watching as far as the media goes. You're constantly aware that what you're playing is a game made by a team of people, or that you're watching a movie made by a director with characters played by actors speaking lines from a script. This is a good perspective to take if you want to be comedic and is also a favorite of reviewers and critics. Hence why the Game Grumps use it mostly. Videogames are videogames, stories are in books, cutscenes should be in movies because movies are movies. "This thing is funny because if you think of the voice direction" "That's not how things work in the real worldd." It's usually the favorite perspective of people who prefer stories that also work from this perspective of not taking anything seriously. The other is Internal Logic: This perspective requires you to think within the logic of the story and requires a bit more immersion. The viewer becomes more into the story, characters, and innerworkings of the universe/writing. A good example is when you focus more on how a character is/what they are, as opposed to the external logic perspective's focus on what role they serve. I'm more in this camp, so I care a lot more about the characters, and the stories in games I've played. Characters are more than just what they are, so everything hits harder to me. Short version example. External logic: Sonic is the hero, because his name is on the front of the case of the game. Internal logic: Sonic is the hero, because he doesn't sit by and just let the villains do what they want, and fights back to stop them.

[@Jinka7]

@TedTheSoap But people can't just choose which media tropes convince them/ pull them away from a story... Arin's said before how he (sometimes?) envies people who can just "enjoy" media. --I think it was during Bloodborne.

[@obliteratedgutstew]

@@Vice_Verse0 this was a beautiful comment to read, thank you. I think about games, movies, books, etc., with both mindsets until I keep seeing things that make me feel less immersed into the world, so then I remember it's made by people and they made said mistake. I have no experience with actually publishing anything, so if I like it, I look past it, and I know its not easy work. It's fun to see Dan and Arin be opposites here while Dan still sees how ridiculous dangonranpa is.

[@chronorebel_greatgryffon1312]

There is indeed several physical physical differences between Junko and Mukuro: -Mukuro has freckles and her eyes are narrower -Junko has noticeably bigger boobs.

[@Crit_Phil]

No one: Makoto: Says anything Arin: "Says anything" *uncontrollably farting noise*

[@laurapina1395]

I absolutely love it ngl

[@laurapina1395]

@Vx Phoenix vX I love it bc to me I want to cheer up with dumb stuff. I don't need comedy talent to just let go and have a quick laugh. Besides you don't need to bring down someone to make yourself feel like an adult. If you're an adult, then act like one. You don't need to tell bc if you gotta tell someone then maybe its something you should work on.

[@WC_553]

@@laurapina1395 if he had actual brains or comedy then he wouldn’t have to rely on fart sounds to be funny i wanna like arin but he makes it so hard when he constantly shits on the game, misgendered chihiro just to be pc, and when he kept basically spoiled it for dan just to be right even tho he already knew i usually like arin’s type of comedy but now i can see why some people only watch gg solely for dan

[@1qesem371]

@@WC_553 but like why say something like that it’s spiteful and pointless even if Arin never sees your comment all you’re really doing is potentially adding a little bitterness to the audience if it’s not your cup of tea don’t drink it guy

[@WC_553]

@@1qesem371 i don’t mind if arin doesn’t sees my comment it’s just my criticism, the reason why i chose to make it is bc it’s my criticism and it’s not like i fully dislike this lets play, i really enjoy dan’s enjoyment of the game

[@youareloved4704]

YOU GUYS SHE'S FINALLY HERE 😭 we're in the endgame now

[@saltedsage]

scrolling past, I thought your pfp was peko from the second game 😬 I'm so embarrassed that I mistook my annoying little narc boy as her

[@saltedsage]

@Daniel De leon did I say something wrong?? I love Taka, I just also like to make fun of him cause he's kinda ridiculous sometimes lmao

[@AlucardTheRedeemed]

It occurs to me that the ultimate soldier would naturally look for someone to issue them commands. It's almost as if Mukuro was selected specifically to be used right from the get go but I've only ever played this game so who knows maybe Mukuro was a legitimate student at one point who was only adapted to Junko's plan later.

[@youareloved4704]

@@saltedsage taka can be a lot lol

[@hermit1387]

sometimes it feels like Danny is the only one who's actually having fun.

[@kilroy7506]

I really wish he would solo play the other games, or even with someone other than Arin

[@senatorsparky]

@@kilroy7506 Noooooooooo no more of these "games" please!

[@ologyofeverything]

I mean dan is not so grump.

[@fudgetart8780]

Arin is too. Arin just likes to complain

[@pipperminty]

Roger Thoman I mean these games seem to be doing pretty well views wise. :/

[@DigitalxGamer]

Omg. Arin saying "they look exactly the same" is exactly the same kind of dumb line they give you in throwaway Nonstop Debates as an obvious contradiction to make. xD

[@calistusjay60]

NO THAT'S WRONG! is what everyone in the comments says to Arin.

[@Archgeek0]

@@calistusjay60 CUCUMBER!

[@BramLastname]

To be fair, There's only a difference in the beginning of the game, They don't bother keeping Mukuro's features consistent with her disguise.

[@enter_feeling6042]

@@BramLastname I mean Mukuro had freckles and smaller breasts. Thats like all the difference you can have in anime chars

[@BramLastname]

@@enter_feeling6042 yes, But in none of the pictures is that clearly visible.

[@HamsterMaster8]

It's funny that arin points out her eyes when junko's eyes are like the one significant difference between her and disguised mukuro

[@orangejuice5633]

+freckles and outfit

[@Marioman6446]

I can't really see the difference myself... °¬°

[@HamsterMaster8]

@@Marioman6446 look at the disguised mukuro and junko sprite next to each other and you'll probably see how much of a difference there is

[@natachu2980]

I'm going to be honest, the only reason I'm still watching this is because of Dan. He actually enjoys this game and seems really invested in it.

[@natachu2980]

@Deaddude25 I think Arin spoiled the game for himself and just going along for Dan. I think I would of stopped watching as well during chapter two. This game is actually pretty good and Interesting. Arin gets frustrated and impatient, and he expects this game just to hand him the answers to his questions immediately.

[@scourgeface]

@Deaddude25 i mean granted chihiros backstory is confusing and not realistic

[@gaiabound]

@@scourgeface I think it only seems confusing and unrealistic from a western perspective. I’ve heard from Japanese players that the issues explored in Chihiros backstory are a very real problem in Japan and how they view gender and what’s expected of specific sexes.

[@scourgeface]

@@gaiabound it doesnt matter where anyones from if in like chihiros case someones a cis man and theyre told theyre "too girly" theyre not gonna literally start living as a woman

[@gaiabound]

@@scourgeface I honestly just don’t think it’s that unrealistic, but to each their own

[@NerdyGeisha]

Me, every time Arin complained about details that seem inconsistent: Arin, they're gonna explain that. Hold on, Arin, they're gonna explain that. Wait a minute, Arin, they're gonna explain that. Please give it a second, they're gonna explain that.

[@RileyJane7]

He's very much a "how dare they not tell the story in one sentence" kind of person

[@dumbbirdyboysquawks8147]

Thats how I was through the WHOLE VIDEO

[@caigashanterus1442]

I know, right? "but they saw her face in magazines" "btw, remember how we said the magazines were photoshopped?" "Oh come on, so they just look identical anyway!?" "btw, we're twins"

[@maverickrx8]

This was essentially the entire playthrough and I can't even begin to believe how I managed to make it this far. I guess I have Dan to thank for that, despite how airheaded and dumb he could be.

[@conspireing6014]

lol seriously as Dan would say “Push a button Arin” It kills the video time, and it killed a chunk of this one for us ;3;

[@VannaValentine]

Man, this episode was a whole lot of me going "they explained that" and "they're getting to that" to like, everything Arin said.

[@Meepminer]

That's every episode.

[@silverauron7850]

Arin: *Ignores every single detail possible, proceeds to forget 97% of the story every 3 minutes AND goes out of his way to pay as little attention to the story characters and conversations as absolutely possible* I guess I'm just upset they didn't do a good job at conveying stuff...

[@scottgesser6765]

Arin: Complains about something in the game repeatedly The game: Addresses Arin's complaint Arin: "Well... yeah..." Arin: Complains about something different *Repeat for 30 minutes*

[@AmazinglyAwkward]

UGH so true 🤦‍♀️

[@elizabethpage_]

LITERALLY he immediately acts like it was obvious or that it was dumb even though he spent FOREVER confused and complaining

[@quantumjoss]

Arin: This is confusing and doesn’t make sense. Danganronpa: is a fucking mystery game where shit doesn’t make sense until you figure it out. Arin: this shit is obvious, why are we even going over this? Danganronpa: is a god damn fucking mystery game where you’re supposed to figure some of this shit out in your own before the game reveals it.

[@Ravensgale]

Still makes me wonder why they even decided to LP this game. They are like the LEAST suited for games like this that require having a modicum of patience and common sense.

[@mao5954]

@@Ravensgale Because people reclaimed this game so they act like they give a shit (Dan seems to enjoy it, its especially Arin) and be like "Aw yeahh love Danganronpa ahah😃😁"

[@istilldontcare2]

Arin: *questions plot for dumb poorly thought out reasons* Dan: *gives correct, canonical answer* Arin: yeah I guess

[@grilledleeks6514]

Your colons suck.

[@KrytenKoro]

Still a dumb plot

[@hatboi124]

@@KrytenKoro No. It's fun.

[@zoruamaster2495]

@@grilledleeks6514 ....how do you use colons?

[@Herosoyyo2]

It's not just a dumb plot, it's some of the worst writing I've seen. Also, the game seems practically designed to minimize player participation. These comments are a carbon copy of the sonic fanbase ones, it's confusing and hilarious to see.

[@SEDYT358]

Thank god this series is ending... I fucking LOVE it, but I'm so tired of yelling "Shut up and play the fucking game, Arin!" every time he gets hung up on something he doesn't understand, knowing the answer he wants will come up if he just. continues. the conversation.

[@NorcalNoise]

"How does that not even bother you?" Makoto she's a psychopath.

[@IZEASGT]

In fairness, Junko's psychology is kinda incomprehensible. Which is a fair approach to take when the villain you're writing is Gyaru Joker.

[@necronyx7176]

Common misconception that psychopaths are inherently violent, or that anyone desensitized/empowered by violence is a psychopath. The two are not synonymous.

[@SnowdropHill]

Probably the same reason trapping a bunch of high schoolers and encouraging them to off each other doesn't bother her, Makoto.

[@RandomCorvid]

​@@necronyx7176 While it is true that #NotAllPsychopaths are violent, many of the traits of a psychopath does make the act of violence easier to do and easier to deal with emotionally. Some people in this chat may themselves have traits common in psychopaths but understand that murder and violence is a stupid thing to do when guile and manipulation are far better tools to get what they want. I think there was a study in 2010 that concluded that many business leaders show psychopathic personality traits. They aren't murders... just arseholes :P (Wasn't actually making an argument against what you said, just wanted to bring some thoughts up about it)

[@NorcalNoise]

@@RandomCorvid I read a study once that a loving family household was one of the basis that could show whether a psychopath might have violent tendencies or just become, like, a really intense salesman. It was a fascinating study.

[@laqweepha4978]

What am I supposed to do everyday when this series is over...? It’s unus annus all over again

[@dailyflannel]

PFT-

[@newflesh666]

monokuma is a big unus annus fan...

[@AlyxDG]

All good things must come to an end. Memento Mori.

[@dinasov9]

Well, Danganronpa has three main games.

[@smeeeeeef]

We wait until they play the sequels, I guess

[@nighthorizon11]

Welcome back to episode 70 or so of Dan trying to enjoy a game while Arin complains for 15 minutes

[@colehanna4040]

this is in fact episode 70. And yes Arin is unbearable

[@dr-wn9xc]

30-ish minutes

[@keystrix3704]

@@colehanna4040 I agree... and I say such as someone who knew next to nothing about this series till now. Arin does have some fair criticisms and some really funny jabs, but if Danny wasn't here, I would've stopped watching a long time ago.

[@Feck_Boi]

@@keystrix3704 "If Danny wasn't here I would've stopped watching" I mean, them being together is the whole point of Game Grumps, that's why they had to replace Jon after he left

[@CharlesM1992]

Why do these people watch game grumps who just fucking complain about Arin endlessly

[@sarougeau]

I was really hoping at the start they'd remember the fact that the first free time conversation they had with Junko, Makoto mentions the fact that she looks different than the magazines she's featured on that were on table. She explains it nervously by claiming it's because of photo shop. Dan was so close but it still slipped their minds.

[@grilledleeks6514]

...but they are twins anyway, so they dont look different

[@Little1Cave]

@@grilledleeks6514 They’re fraternal, not identical. Mukuro has freckles and smaller eyes.

[@LadyYamiofLight]

@@Little1Cave I think you want fraternal lol. Their being twins does not have anything to do with dads.

[@Little1Cave]

@@LadyYamiofLight You’re right that it’s fraternal. Paternal twins are another way of saying identical twins so I appreciate you calling me out. Lol Should be good now. 👍

[@sarougeau]

@@grilledleeks6514 Paternal twins don't look alike. I would know since I'm married to one...

[@cat_inabasket1510]

"Its like a dating game after this," -Arin, secret danganronpa ghost writer

[@howardmurphy8019]

If only life weren't so cruel.

[@MozillaVulpix]

Oh yeah, School Mode!

[@BramLastname]

I mean he's not wrong...

[@TikkTakks]

I love that every other comment is just as incredibly frustrated as me.

[@jonathanrobinson8926]

I appreciate the fact that they label the episode numbers in the hashtags.

[@caigashanterus1442]

Not always though. There were at least a few episodes after they stopped putting the number in the titles where the hashtags didn't have anything useful.

[@conspireing6014]

Didn’t notice that before, ty

[@anonymoussourcream3175]

I think the point is to confuse the watcher to clicking on wrong ones, and giving them the view. Pretty scummy tbh

[@Aeivious]

@@anonymoussourcream3175 no it's youtube's algorithm that's scummy, youtube is less likely to advertise videos in a series or that basically show some sort of numbering system. They do it so the reach on the videos is better because fuck youtube

[@TheRealSeaCrab]

@@anonymoussourcream3175 That's not how that works. You have to watch a video for a certain period of time to get a view. You don't just get it by clicking on it.

[@GeminiRosche]

GODDAMMIT DAN ISN’T VOICING JUNKO AGAIN ARIN JUST GAVE HER THE GENERIC VOICE!!!!!

[@sleepygeekyandreadytodream...y]

they dont usually voice flashbacks, and maybe danny forgot that he voiced a girl that wasnt kyoko

[@HeliosThor64]

@@sleepygeekyandreadytodream...y Pray to god that's true.

[@philmur18]

Hahaha your despair is showing. It's pretty delicious looking

[@sleepygeekyandreadytodream...y]

@@HeliosThor64 ...why?

[@Mazurecki56]

Jesus christ calm down, it's just a video game.

[@CADClicker]

When Arin fixates on something he really fixates

[@brianrocha5004]

Wow, even Dan was getting annoyed at Arin this episode, I guess that says a lot...

[@arthurwatson2555]

I guess Mukuro's freckles just don't exist in Arin's eyes

[@gregthesmegged2536]

I hope he gets glasses, i worry over his blindness.

[@Aeivious]

Or the countless other differences in face structure

[@GeminiRosche]

How terribly sad. A man who can’t appreciate adorable freckles on a girl

[@ilikegoblo4665]

When arin believes he’s right he’ll ignore any facts that go against his point

[@Spirit_Circle]

@@ilikegoblo4665 and somehow the people pointing that ou are the ones in the wrong

[@tetralise2492]

God I found it unbearable how frequently in this episode Arin is like "BUT THEY LOOK LIKE EXACTLY THE SAME THIS IS SO LAZY" like.... maybe shut up and play the game and they'll say something about that oh my god

[@AnimeMadMan123]

yea, also Mukuro as Junko had freckles

[@Crim_Zen]

Ya you can clearly see the differences when you buy the character art in the gallery. Their outfits have the same color scheme, but everything about the outfits is different.

[@brandonpallotto5921]

Dan: "If one is older then you can be twins." Me: Yes Dan, twins are born at the exact same moment, every time. They are always the same age and are never seconds or even minutes apart.

[@doctor-syrup]

If arin stopped complaining he could have gotten to the part she said they were twins sooner

[@jake51479]

But then how would we know how much smarter Arin is than the game?

[@elizabethpage_]

this episode made me wanna rip my hair out oml arin needed to calm down

[@AiysamaDesu]

I agree with all of this

[@michaelwilliams8387]

Yeah this letsplay would be much more entertaining if they didn't comment on what was happening at all and just pressed the buttons. JFC these comments

[@doctor-syrup]

@@michaelwilliams8387 its not that I dont want them to comment, he just got so heated over something that was going to be resolved In like 2 seconds, this game over explains literally everything

[@StellarHippie]

Just saying, twins aren't both shot out at the same time, there can be hours even days of difference

[@cydonianknight2945]

“It’s like a dating game after this” Oh god, I hope they play School Mode.

[@iampiggy2838]

They won’t. But you can dream

[@movedon2023]

At long last... we found the mastermind! Mama’s Ragu is the mastermind behind all of this!!!

[@CallenderMan]

@@AxxLAfriku Get a life

[@mabe4322]

If Sayaka was in Junko's character, she could have faked an italian accent just out of boredom.

[@frajt6462]

”This is a spicy calzone”

[@Streamer351]

S A

[@crepuscule7721]

Arin getting mad at the game for not remembering clues and not understanding the mechanics and mocking it with fart noises is the most Game Grumps way to play this game and I should’ve seen it coming

[@CertifiedLoser-zw9rl]

I would have loved to see Dans reaction to the demos first kill Aka His boy Hiro

[@mr.redguard6702]

Hifumi killed him right?

[@theyesofmadness]

@@mr.redguard6702 yeah, however not in the physical demo only in the manga based on it

[@_astrxnxmy]

@@theyesofmadness what's the manga called?

[@_astrxnxmy]

@BallisticBucket the mangas have a second title to separate themselves. They're all called Danganronpa

[@theyesofmadness]

@@_astrxnxmy oh god i don’t remember it’s on the dr wiki somewhere

[@manga2752]

Any sort of actual gameplay that isn't just pressing A: *Happens* Arin: Aw fuck, I hate this part.

[@loonzoldick]

the only mini game he likes is the rhythm one XD hope they play the other games, tho i believe Arin will ask for a rest before tackling it, oh boy is he gonna hate the mind dive mini game, i cant wait for it

[@tetsujin_144]

Well the one part I noticed him saying that in this episode was the "fill in the pictures" thing - and I think that's pretty reasonable as that process seems really cryptic.

[@zoruamaster2495]

@@tetsujin_144 it seems really cryptic....until you find out there’s a button that gives you text explaining which picture goes in a slot

[@Fuzzyflame1]

@@tetsujin_144 On top of what zoruamaster said, literally all you need is eyes as well. He complained there were two pictures of Kyoko that were the same. Like what? One is clearly her entering the room and the other Junko noticing her. If someone being seen before they even enter a room is cryptic you might just be as hopeless as Arin. I am kinda shocked with him being an animator that he doesn't pick up on visual clues like that.

[@xylek9483]

To be fair I think this game would be 10x better if it was solely graphic novel, without the cheesy bullets and dance sequences

[@zaskta]

When I first played this game I noticed Junko having freckles when you first meet her. Though in the magazine she did not, so I though it had to do with makeup since she is the ultimate fashionista. I was glad to find out later this detail was use to distinguish between Junko and Mukuro.

[@FluffehStuff274]

If Arin would just click the A button he'd get the answers to his questions.

[@RedAugust08]

In this playthrough it seems like every episode Arin is trying to fit more comments and jokes in between literally every sentence. If he'd stop doing that so often he'd get more answers and each episode might actually include more game progress.

[@maryg1865]

The last few episodes have me constantly thinking "Just press A already!" I don't know why Arin has so little faith that the game will answer his questions, even if they are sometimes dumb answers.

[@KyleHarrisonRedacted]

Wait hold on, press A? What am I missing here? I haven't played this game and I'm not sure what were talking about here

[@AmakiMikashiWWW]

@@KyleHarrisonRedacted I believe they’re talking about the Comic portion? In the computer version you can click on either set of bubbles to get a hint as to what goes there

[@kilroy7506]

@@KyleHarrisonRedacted he’s talking about progressing through the lines. It shows on the right of the dialogue boxes

[@Vaishino]

"It bothers me that they look the same" I've got some bad news about moe anime for you Arin

[@TheTrevbear]

Arin: “Why would they photoshop Junko to look like Mukuro Ikusaba her whole career?” Me: *smashes head through wall*

[@TheTrevbear]

Here’s the thing: I’m sure Arin is a nice guy, but goddamn, his video game criticisms are SO annoying.

[@MaskedHeroLucky]

"They don't make sense!" If that's what you have to tell yourself, Arin.

[@FellStar10]

If you think SHE'S crazy, wait til you see the kooky cast of Danganronpa Two!

[@JoshieboyStudios]

I'm so excited for their confusion

[@pq1282]

And a certain someone from v3

[@movedon2023]

*Nagito noises*

[@AnubisFactsGames]

Please... no more...

[@mikau1585]

the one thing i NEED is their reaction to demon hiyoko, i love how cursed she is

[@alexcelticw]

Junko: "Wow, you have a pretty good memory. Unlike the pair of chumps that are playing this game right now"

[@ApexGale]

mukuro had freckles, her eyes were farther apart and less rounded, and she was not as well endowed as junko

[@K3k3000]

It's weird Arin keeps harping on it. They do look pretty different.

[@ApexGale]

@@K3k3000 Yeah I get saying the eye color is similar, but if you place mukuro and junko's neutral faces side by side they do look fairly different

[@BramLastname]

@@ApexGale Except for the fact that later in the game they retcon it, When both mukuro's profile and monokuma's hint don't have the freckles.

[@nycprince531]

Arin: im not gonna pretend I'm looking at a walk through Us: No shit dude...we knew

[@donovancarrasco9833]

You’re saying that like you figured it out, he told us multiple times

[@carlotta4th]

Yeah but comments figured it out a few episodes before he started mentioning it. It was noticeable when they suddenly started getting not only the right answer, but *quickly* (after a specific "walkthrough-like" pause).

[@bsphil]

I mean, he said they were using a walkthrough more than half the game ago. I think after the first case.

[@TheBioshocksnake]

@@bsphil I think the assumption was he only used it during the comic book stuff. But he's using it for every part of the game.

[@Mazurecki56]

@@TheBioshocksnake Maybe your assumption. He literally said that he's using a walkthrough in like the first two or three episodes, even before a trial.

[@TheIncredibleHulk96]

Please let Dan play future story-driven games since he's the one who seems to genuinely enjoy it and not spoil himself

[@reviewcomplete3701]

Arin complaining about the padding of the game and continuously forgetting things that were padded out is some of the most hilarious irony i've ever seen. He wants to dislike the game so bad, the mental gymnastics are impressive.

[@onionknight44]

It bothers me that Arin's like, "They didn't change anything about the face" names details and then completely misses the freckles

[@frankfilmic]

But they're right to point out that the two of them look freakishly similar until the reveal that they were actually twins.

[@4sianch0co]

And their boob sizes XD Well, that's their body types, but you get what I mean

[@loonzoldick]

not only the freckles, her eyes are different, mukuro's eyes are far apart and the eyelashes are thicker and messier, also she got thinner lips that's why Junko's moth looks curvier, and Junko's nose got more shape than Mukuro's petit nose. honestly looking then from afar you cannot tell but having them side by side you can tell the look so different by all of these small details

[@kwintin1000]

@@frankfilmic Compare two pictures of them, they actually look nothing alike other than passing resemblance.

[@ApexGale]

@@loonzoldick mukuros eyes are also more tapered where junkos are more rounded

[@jahirborjas6893]

Haha Arin hates the closing argument section because it means he has to think!

[@dropkickcorpse]

16:43 The hints that I caught during my 1st playthrough: - Mukuro's freckles matched the group photos, Magazine Junko has spotless skin - Magazine Junko had noticeably larger...assets than Mukuro

[@BramLastname]

The main problem is that Mukuro's freckles aren't there in her pictures.

[@IReallyAmIronMan]

Only episode so far that it kind of got to me that Arin whines about things in the mystery in the middle of solving the mystery. Like the magazines thing got explained, their visual similarities got explained, etc etc

[@EnjoyVideos99]

arin's strapped to a bomb that will go off if he goes 5 mins without complaining

[@LammasDeluge]

"But there were pictures of her everywhere!!!" One of the first things Makoto said when he met Junko was how different she looked from her model photos and Junko said it was photoshop and you and dan both made multiple throwback jokes to that throughout the first few hours of gameplay, Arin. Jesus flipping christ!

[@RiaxaraCo]

“If ones older and ones then they can’t be twins” One of them had to come out first my guy.

[@jamie7920]

Dan: “if one was older then they can’t be twins” Me: **imagines the horror of two babies coming out of the womb together instead of after the other**

[@jolenemathews]

Poor mum

[@IZEASGT]

Also, have neither of them ever seen an anime with twins? One of them always addresses the other with older-sibling honorifics.

[@KrytenKoro]

@@IZEASGT because thats a silly way to do it

[@IZEASGT]

@@KrytenKoro It’s how it goes in Japan. From everything I’ve heard, calling your older sibling by their name, even if they’re the older twin, is just really weird.