The Karbala Event: Arguments from History in Light of Ghamidi’s views (Part: 2) | J A Ghamidi

The Karbala Event: Arguments from History in Light of Ghamidi’s views (Part: 2)
"واقعہ کربلا" غامدی صاحب کی فکر کی روشنی میں تاریخ سے استدلال (2)
The Views of Mr Javed Ahmad Ghamidi
Host: Muhammad Hassan Ilyas
جناب جاوید احمد غامدی کا موقف
میزبان: محمد حسن الیاس
Official Websites: www.al-mawrid.org and www.javedahmadghamidi.com
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Keywords
Islam
Religion
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Interpretations
Karbala
Arguments
Islam
History
Ghamidi
Al-Mawrid

[@azhariqbal3838]

میرے خیال میں انتہائی مدلل اور منطقی تجزیہ لیکن جو لوگ پہلے سے کوئی ایک پوزیشن لے چکے ہیں ان کے لیئے قابلِ قبول نہیں کیونکہ وہ صرف اور صرف اپنے مؤقف کی تائید سننا چاہتے ہیں. میری نظر اور دل میں غامدی صاحب کی عزت مزید بڑھ گئی. اللہ تعالیٰ انہیں دونوں جہانوں میں اجر عظیم عطا فرمائے. آمین

[@Ozaireditz]

بیشک آپ نے صحیح فرمایا۔

[@yasirameer9470]

Respectable Mr Ghamdi has his opinion we may not agree with it but we respect it

[@razadx111]

Nihayat yak tarfaa biyaan farmayaa aap nay.... tanqeed ker ker kay bol rehay tanqeed nahi....

[@zohraimam6597]

آمین یارب العالمین 💖

[@zenda40]

Simple logic hay: If you call Hazrat Ali as Khalifa e Rashid, you must consider Ameer Muawiya in the wrong. If you are giving benefit of doubt to Ameer Muawiya, then you should be brave enough to include him as Khalia e Rashid as well. It is simply illogical that both are correct but only one is Khalifa e Rashid. And if you dare to consider both as Khalifa e Rashid, then be prepared to answer the following questions: 1) Who will be held responsible for the deaths of tens of thousands of people in battle of Siffin? 2) Why were killers of Hazrat Usman were never punished by Ameer Muawiya after he became Caliph? 3) Why Ameer Muawiya started the custom of abusing Hazrat Ali (as confirmed in saha e sitta, tareekh Tabari, and by countless ulemas even Moulana Moududi in his book Khilafat aur mulookiat). 4) Why Ameer Muawiya being a sincere caliph appointed his son? 5) If appointment of Yazid is also acceptable, then why Imam Hussain, Hazrat Abdullah bin Zubair (nazobillah) rebelled against another Rashid Caliph Yazid? Lastly, if we are willing to give benefit of doubt to every person of that era (who saw Prophet SAWW) because we cannot judge their intentions , let us also give benefit of doubt to all the sects of present day who did not even saw Prophet SAWW, and are only following their sect's teachings to the best of their abilities. When those people could not differentiate between right and wrong, why to show hatred and disdain towards present day Muslims who too cannot diffrentiate between right and wrong?

[@zaniyazi]

Nailed. Love you.

[@shahpar4107]

Kya Hzrt Ali ra NY saza di ya badla lya Hzrt Usman ra ki shahadat ka?

[@taimoorgoraya4026]

Dr. Asrar said that he does not consider amer mawya as Khalifa-e-rasheed. It was Era of common governance.

[@maaz87]

@A Z Majoosiyun pai Rafziyun pai khatmallan pai Khomeini k yaaroun pai lanaat bayshumaar

[@jackrose20091]

Wow ! That's some response... Nailed it you Hussaini

[@LoveFromQueensNY]

❤❤❤ Ghamidi sb you are true honest with true knowledge ❤❤❤ amazing perfect example you set in contemporary ages with charm of diction and true knowledge❤❤❤ live long Ghamidi sb! Amen ❤❤❤ Ali khan Queens NY

[@aansari954]

Why are we arguing about something which happened 1000+ years ago! Let God be judge of it and talk about what is happening now.

[@HiraAkbar1407]

Tau history ka subject nikaal dain u mean

[@saadahmad9701]

It's the first time I think I couldn't find Ghamidi Sahb's argument valid. I think if no new constitution could be formed during Hazrat Usman (RA)'s era, the old order should have been followed.

[@nadimilyas9334]

Wohi follow hoa sir Lakin ager us ko thek samjhen hum tb b aksariyat Ameer e Shaam ko Baghi man'ney k lye tyar nai. In ka aqeeda ye hai k Mtlb ye b thek lakin ghalat wo b nai

[@naeemawan4717]

We must respect all sahaba but Quran tells us that all are not equal: ''Not equal among you are those who spent before the conquest [of Makkah] and fought [and those who did so after it]. Those are greater in degree than they who spent afterwards and fought.'' Quran [57:10]. Hazrat Ali (RAA) is among the first category and Abu Sufyan & Mawiah (RAA) embraced Islam, after conquest of Makkah. Prophet Muhammad [pbuh] prophesied in his own life that: ''The khilaafat after me in my Ummah will last for thirty years. Then there will be kingship after that.'' That period of 30 years was completed when Khilafat of Hassan (RAA) came to an end. So it's important to respect all Sahaba but we can not say that both opposing groups of sahaba were right during the conflicts which consumed so many lives. Ali (RAA) was obviously on righteous path

[@smartentertainment9574]

Rightly said

[@Harmful4me]

What a intellectual thought over the issue very few people could understand the conflicton.

[@AdnanNazirPK]

اپنی خدمات پیش یا اختیارات حاصل کرنے کی کوشش کرنا اور براجمان ہونا مختلف صورتیں ہیں نہائت عمدہ گفتگو اعلی، دلچسپ اور آسان فہم تعبیرات جامع و مفصل سوالات و جوابات ۔۔۔ بہت اعلی۔ جزاک اللہ خیر شکریہ

[@NadeemRaza-nx6xw]

Ghamandi sahib...allaha apko hidayat de.....

[@ismathussain4601]

کمال کا لیکچر ہے آپ نے تاریخ کا بہت ہی اہم واقعہ کا پس منظر عمدہ طریقے سے بیان کیا۔اللہ آپ کو لمبی زندگی دے آپ اور ڈاکٹر اسرار صاحب نے بہت درست تجزیہ فرما یا

[@arshadgondal101]

زبردست

[@IjazAhmad-qt5eh]

may u live long to serve islam

[@shahidsiddique5969]

“al-yawm akmaltu la-kum dīnakum…al-islām dīnan” is k baad koi b cheez na hamaray emaan mein dakhal ki ja sakti hai na kharij ki ja sakti hai...is k baad Jo kuch b huva wo history hai aur aap usay history aur politics k perspective se hi dekhein gay!!! Us mein har kisi ko apni Raye rakhnay ka haq haasal hai!!!

[@faheemakhtar6936]

بہت شکریہ خامدی صاحب

[@TheHasnainNaqvi]

Aj inko suna to dil to ye chaah rha ISLAM ko chhor koi bhi deen akhtiyar kru , Phir ALLAAH se dua krta hu ki IS ADMI KA HASHR MUAWIA YAZEED OR ABU SUFIYAN KE SATH HO aameen

[@toolgum3227]

tmhara b yehi hashar ho. jahil

[@truebeliefalways]

absolutely wrong Sayyedena Ali was Khalifa Rashid . Those who went against him made mistake plain and simple.No sense in trying to rewrite history. And why was Yazeed appointed

[@hakimjunejo9026]

Y does a Christian wants to know?

[@shahanarizvi1008]

A Z thanks

[@shahanarizvi1008]

A Z Allah tala qayamat ke din aap sab ko mawia yazeed abi sofian or jitney bhi doshmanan e ahle bait oun ki saf main kharda Karay ameen som ameen!! Ab tou khosh ho hain, hum aap ke liye hamesha dua kartey rahinge

[@safdarakbari]

@A Z what a jaahil response. You are such a non entity

[@anisajabbar1763]

allah taala bht ziada ilm se bhtr shi and sacha ilm atta frmaye warna aik galati sare kia kraye pr pani pher deti hay

[@drka21]

I have great respect for Ghamdi Saheb and therefore I am deeply saddened on seeing this video. He has cast doubts on hazrat Ali's khilafa. He thinks that the method of choosing Khalifa after hazrat Usman should have been different and he hints that because this was not so, this created a dispute. But this is not correct because Amir Muavia initially did not say any such thing nor did he claim khilafat for himself. His claim was that murderers of Usman r.a should be punished. He was asking hazrat Ali to do this. This itself shows that amir Muavia recognised his rule as legitimate. Only later he developed ambitions till he became the ruler. I request people to study for themselves the history of this period and even different views and see what is the right conclusion. May Allah guide us towards the straight path. Ameen. Now study this hadith: Sahih Bukhari Hadees # 2812 حَدَّثَنَا إِبْرَاهِيمُ بْنُ مُوسَى ، أَخْبَرَنَا عَبْدُ الْوَهَّابِ ، حَدَّثَنَا خَالِدٌ ، عَنْ عِكْرِمَةَ ، أَنَّ ابْنَ عَبَّاسٍ قَالَ لَهُ ، وَلِعَلِيِّ بْنِ عَبْدِ اللَّهِ : ائْتِيَا أَبَا سَعِيدٍفَاسْمَعَا مِنْ حَدِيثِهِ فَأَتَيْنَاهُ ، وَهُوَ وَأَخُوهُ فِي حَائِطٍ لَهُمَا يَسْقِيَانِهِ فَلَمَّا رَآنَا جَاءَ فَاحْتَبَى وَجَلَسَ ، فَقَالَ : كُنَّا نَنْقُلُ لَبِنَ الْمَسْجِدِ لَبِنَةً لَبِنَةً ، وَكَانَ عَمَّارٌ يَنْقُلُ لَبِنَتَيْنِ لَبِنَتَيْنِ ، فمر بِهِ النَّبِيُّ صَلَّى اللَّهُ عَلَيْهِ وَسَلَّمَ ، وَمَسَحَ عَنْ رَأْسِهِ الْغُبَارَ ، وَقَالَ : وَيْحَ عَمَّارٍ تَقْتُلُهُ الْفِئَةُ الْبَاغِيَةُ عَمَّارٌ يَدْعُوهُمْ إِلَى اللَّهِ ، وَيَدْعُونَهُ إِلَى النَّارِ . Narrated `Ikrima: that Ibn `Abbas told him and `Ali bin `Abdullah to go to Abu Sa`id and listen to some of his narrations; So they both went (and saw) Abu Sa`id and his brother irrigating a garden belonging to them. When he saw them, he came up to them and sat down with his legs drawn up and wrapped in his garment and said, (During the construction of the mosque of the Prophet) we carried the adobe of the mosque, one brick at a time while `Ammar used to carry two at a time. The Prophet passed by `Ammar and removed the dust off his head and said, May Allah be merciful to `Ammar. He will be killed by a rebellious aggressive group. `Ammar will invite them to (obey) Allah and they will invite him to the (Hell) fire. Sahih Hadees (when hazrat Ammar was martyred at siffin, even amir Muavia did not deny this hadith but did a taveel). Now I understand why he spent part 1 of the video casting doubts on hadith. He even compared khabar wahid to reports about dialogue between Akbar and birbal (نعوذ بالله) . Really this is not correct. Such a trivial example is used to denigrate the hadith reports, even if they are Sahih.

[@abdulgaffargoolamfareed7633]

I agree except that Muawiya ra did NOT later "develop" ambitions for khilafah he then REVEALED his ambition which he harboured even at the time of umar ra.

[@drka21]

@@abdulgaffargoolamfareed7633 جزاك الله احسن الجزا

[@alizain2912]

Good

[@awaisamir786]

Very robotic and very weak analysis of ghamdhi sab. I have never seen him before standing on weak logic

[@shakilahmad8246]

Logic was right but u r addicted to old stories taken in favor of one & enmity of other. Those who agree description of Ali's Khilafat from Shia or Sunni perspectives will respond like you. It is not Islam but incidents and rule of law and that time political conditions

[@awaisamir786]

@@shakilahmad8246 I could say then you are standing with ghamdi's sab view with ignoring well renowned pious scholars. I am a big admirer of ghamdi sab but it is not possible that he is always right. Hazrat mahwiya fought a war against Hazrat Ali RA. Shabi's were died. Hazrat Mahviyah had a different opinion so he took a path of fighting and got ready to kill sahabas. What a great logic??? If you have a different opinion will you start beating or killing other person???? I am not doubting hazrat Mahviyah's intention but unfortunately he made a mistake.

[@shakilahmad8246]

@@awaisamir786 OK then penalize or point out mistake or crime done either by Ali RA OR Ayesha RA in Jang-e-Jamal? Because dozens of sahabas died from both sides. According to Quran if you kill someone then penalty is HELL. Is this verse only for you and me NOT for Ali RA & Ayesha RA. We are here not to do justice with old time history by declaring it Islam. Islam was complete after Khutba of Muhammad PBUH. Why do you care who was right who was wrong. You living in2021 not year 571. U should raise your voice on today's HUKUMRAN not past as they have nothing to do with us today. Islam is Quran and Sunnat not good or bad actions of SAHABAS.

[@abdulqaharsalfi3472]

جزاک اللہ خیر ا

[@umarfarooq4906]

Atleast someone is sensible among our so called scholars

[@SamarNiaz29]

we can disagree with his views, but we can not disagree that he is a true scholar, with high intellectual capabilities. and we are only disagreeing with him here, because he views history from a very different perspective. He is not right, but he is also not wrong here!

[@zafar2073]

He ignored Quran and Hadees totally

[@javediqbal6978]

Aap ki ye taqreer kai dafa suni magar kabhi bhi iss mein wazan mehsoos nhi hua.

[@sameerbhat7529]

Badaam khayein aap

[@kashanali7392]

I respectfully disagree with you sir.. May be i have to disagree with you for the first time

[@mujtabas]

This is not even anything conclusive in the video, which point in the video you are disagreeing?

[@hajiatifdar]

I disagree with غامدی

[@adafridi]

Me toi

[@summerabbas2901]

whao what a great answer

[@sultanmahmood6396]

Mr. Javed Ghamidi" is hell-bent to propagate moral corruption against the teaching of the Quran, by hook or crook, will justify anything he wants with the help of academic [trickery] argument. For example, A committed Secular trickster called Chief Justice Manir of Pakistan in 1956 wittingly caused SHIRK & He engineered the Title Deed of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan instead of Dar-ul-Islam of Pakistan. Pakistan officially is called the Islamic Republic of Pakistan'' Subsequently, the shirk Justice Munir manufactured becomes clear only when you look at the definition closely, it means people & Allah share supreme legislative power over the state of Pakistan. Although the 1971 constitution of Pakistan contradicts power-sharing with God & refutes Republicanism, the damage Justice Munir deliberately caused has never been corrected since 1956 by any Pakistan Parliament. Therefore it is the wicked secular minority lobby, who have ruined the success of Dar-ul-Islam becoming a law bidding unitary community in Pakistan. Pakistan records show Justice Manir knew the Republic's definition. Therefore Muslims must stay alert of these Secular centric academic tricksters, they are extremely sharp, they are foot soldiers of Satan, they will never mend their ways. Unless Pakistan legislators change the official Title Deed of Pakistan, we all stand collectively guilty of committing a national Shirk-e-Khafi. If you look closely at Ghamidi's silence against the practice of Usury, it amplifies his wrong priorities & motives behind his worldwide centers in the garb of Quranic teachings centers. Quran talks of gold & silver currency that holds its intrinsic values. Ghamidi failed to contribute any national effort to ban Usury. A once of gold today will buy the same level of goods or services as it did 100 years ago. On the other hand, the fiat paper currency is unstable and it's value continually decreases & the poor masses around the globe are in dire need of fairness & the capitalist are exploiting cheap labor & causing havoc on the masse disparity between Rich & Poor. he's dead silent on usury. He just wants to Hellenize naive Muslims to become under the secular sphere of influence so that secular minority can swell their numbers in Pakistan, Ghamidi has no right to manipulate naive Muslims who are the potential assets of becoming more pious servants of Lord Almighty God. The Incorrigible neoliberal secular Ghamidi bitterly slanders even the gallantry orthodoxy of Ghazali for his successfully holding back the Dujjalic Secularism onslaught on1.8 billion Muslims since the 11th century. After the 12th century, the West studied in an Islamic school in Spain but then reverted to secularism without realizing that they have ended up constructing a society prone to effeminating man's behavior & caused females to masculinize against the natural & biological reality. After carefully listening to Mr. Ghamidi's misconstrue constructions on Islamic Banking, Male Beards & Female outer-garment. I can safely repeat that all of his corrupt suggestions are fallacious & full of academic prejudice. Mr. Ghamidi sinfully denies the divine law & asserts that the law is only for Prophets pbuh wives. He is attempting to water-down Quranic Law & misleads Muslims in favor of secular ideology which constitutionally rejects the Quran & negates the successful Rightly Guided Khulafa-e-Rashideen & devalues the truthful successors of God's Messenger pbuh. Quran 33;٥٩ يَا أَيُّهَا النَّبِيُّ قُلْ لِأَزْوَاجِكَ وَبَنَاتِكَ وَنِسَاءِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ يُدْنِينَ عَلَيْهِنَّ مِنْ جَلَابِيبِهِنَّ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ أَدْنَىٰ أَنْ يُعْرَفْنَ فَلَا يُؤْذَيْنَ ۗ وَكَانَ اللَّهُ غَفُورًا رَحِيمًا59 O Prophet! Tell your wives, and your daughters, and the women of the believers, to drape their outer-garment over them. That is more proper, so they will be recognized and not harassed. God is Forgiving and Merciful. Quran 33;59 O Prophet, speak unto thy wives and thy daughters, (((and the wives of the true believers))), that they cast their outer garments over them when they walk abroad; this will be more proper, that they may be known to be matrons of reputation, and may not be affronted by unseemly words or actions. God is gracious and merciful. Mr. Ghamidi sinfully asserts that the above divine Order is only for Prophets PBUH wives & is not for the other Muslim women, despite, a clear express statement that commands the messenger [pbuh] to tell your wives & your daughters and women of Believers to drape [cover] themselves with outer garment when they go out. Subsequently, Mr. Javed Ghamidi is guilty of slandering the Quran of double standards. I see Mr. Ghamidi as a secular shill, acting deceitfully under their Hellenistic sphere of influence, he will lend support to Godless Western ideals, he stands carelessly, affecting to be seen of modern academic, wavering between faith & infidelity, and adhering neither unto these nor unto those: Sadly he is professionally attempting to prejudice Muslim Orthodox beliefs via Imimitaing Greek Secular ideology. This is unacceptable to any intelligent Muslim society. Pakistan Police authorities must stop wicked secular propaganda agents operating on the national media platform & the government must prosecute all NGOs who are taking foreign funding covertly to weaken Islamic values within Dar-ul-Islam Pakistan. Quran 33;36 It is not fit for a true believer of either sex when God and His Apostle have decreed a thing, that they should have the liberty of choosing a different matter of their own: and whoever is disobedient unto God and his Apostle, surely erreth with a manifest error

[@buttaurangzeb5412]

Javed ghamidi just love it Allah aap ko sehat aur tandrusti day all time great for me iss se behter dua I don't think any other Allah kabool farmaey aameen aurangzeb butt from Switzerland ❤

[@MuhammadIzadi]

Respect. However, I would like to present a different picture. Caliph Usman remained beseiged for quite some time. Muawiyah knew what was going on. He could've come to his cousin's rescue, but he calculated that Usman's death would be more politically beneficial than his life. Once the mob assassinated the Caliph, Muawiyah raised the banner of vengeance to shore up his legitimacy among his followers. The man was made for machivellian maneuvering. Secondly, Usman should not have empowered his oppurtunistic kinsmen, which naturally aroused suspicions among those who had been with the Prophet (SAW) since the beginning, and had suffered terribly by the hands of Banu Ummaiyah. For instance, why did he recall Al Hakm bin Marwan when the Prophet (SAW) had explicitly exiled him? Wasn't he violating a direct Prophetic command? Thirdly, even dispassionately speaking, Mola Ali (A.S.) and Muawiyah cannot be equated. Mola Ali (A.S.) had remained loyal and committed to the Muhammadan cause while Muawiyah and his people had only embraced the creed when all other options had been exhausted. Their conversion into Islam had to be taken with a pinch of salt. From Mola Ali's (A.S.) perspective, these people just couldn't be trusted. They had to be either controlled or neutralised. Tactically, any autonomy to a person like Muawiyah was out of the question.

[@AbdulHameed-bw4cg]

Totally agree with you. Seige was not held. Actually it happend within days and Muaviyah Bin Sufyan was in Syria as Governer. 2000 - 3000 rebellions were involved in this incident. They were very cleverly trained by Hypocrates, Power Hungry Politicians, Jewishes and other enemies of Islam. But, Muaviyah wanted Govt is totally proven from later events. Maula Ali(R.A.) became a bit helpless as these rebellions mixed up in his followers. If Muaviyah could not have disagreed with Maula Ali(R.A.) and have accepted him as Caliph; thousands of Muslims could have been saved, killer of Usman (R.A.) could have been arrested and punished as well. But, looks like he was more interested in Power.

[@afzalmemon2518]

You need a DNA test brother

[@aghaali2135]

@@afzalmemon2518 your dna is ghamidi gando

[@afzalmemon2518]

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[@aghaali2135]

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[@kashifhussain5467]

With Respect......i honor the contribution of Ghamidi sb in understanding islam, but in this matter may Allah show him right path. He didn`t know Nabi Pak SAWW said woh Shakhs ( Maula Ali RA) islam k liye talwar uthaye ga its very clear from many Sahi adadees that Maula Ali RA was saving Islam and others were fighting only to get powers to rule...and ameer muavia decision to appoint his son Yazeed as his successor substantiate my point of view..

[@roomanhamza7170]

he is munkir hadees so how u accept him to say such things

[@ranamuhammad9195]

Bhut good tajzia kiyaa hay.

[@mohammedyakub3796]

Wah, ghamdi Sahab wah, bahut zabardast jawabaat deye Hain, Allah aapko salamat rakhe, ummat me jo maudidi Sahab ki wajhe se bechaini thy, Aapke jawabaat se Dil ko bahut sakoon Mila, aur hazrat Ali aur Hazrat mavia se mohabbat aur izzat badh gai hai Allah aapko salamat rakhe ameen sum ameen

[@qasimjan2496]

May Allah give both of u great rewards for this beautiful,knowledgeable and clear conversation.waiting for the next, Qasim from Bahrain

[@haidereumshah]

اگر ایسا ہے تو میرے ادنی سے خیال میں انسان پتھر کہ دور میں جی رہا ہے جہاں طاقت کی بنیاد پہ اقتدار اب وہ طاقت ظلم ہو تو وہ بھی جایز بقول اپکے ۔

[@worldvibes3097]

For the very first time I am obliged to agree with Ghamidi sahab after watching this video.

[@ranamuhammad9195]

Let decide Allah swt

[@haqparast3239]

No doubt Ali is the merit to identify a momin or Munafiq

[@abdulgaffargoolamfareed7633]

Az brother you obvious haven't read.

[@donniedarko2329]

@A Z Sahi Muslim Hadees 240. Sirf Momin Ali SA muhabbat rakhay ga aur munafiq Bughz. Ab ya to Hadees ki kitab ghalat ha kiu k sub k sub Ravi issay Sahi kehtay .. agar yeh Sahi Nahi then apka adha Islam Hadees par khara uska Kia Hoga kiu k phir to har chiz par shak Karo ... Namaz mai Roza mai har chiz main

[@mariamtee]

I think no human after Muhammad ur RasullAllah can be the merit to identify that.

[@donniedarko2329]

@@mariamtee it's about what you think it's about what Hazrat Muhammad SAW preached. He said that in Sahi Muslim which is the most authenticated book after Quran. Also there is a while concept behind this. Prophet knows what will happen in future and the ummat will divide so he gave his verdict whoever will be with Ali will be on the right path. It was necessary because on the other side wrong concept of Islam was standing. Ali was protecting the real islam preached by Rasool SAW

[@shakilahmad8246]

Ali was human not God.....A human only

[@nommusta6718]

Excellent analysis of Islamic history, we also learn from history that Hz. Amir M tried to take the outh for his son by force

[@ranamuhammad9195]

Allah swt knows all and it happened and he watched all

[@almemon3691]

Surah Baqarah Verse 159: No doubt, those who conceal what We have sent down of clear signs and guidance after that We have made it clear in the Book for the people, on them there is the curse of Allah and the curse of those who curse. It simply means: Jo bhi HAQ aur SACH ko chhupaata hai uspar Allah ki LAANAT. ALI ka haq chhupaney par GHAMDI pe LAANAT!

[@afzalahmad5519]

حکومت کرنے کا حق پر شخص اپنا سمجهه سکتا هے۔ اس کى بنىاد پر کهاں فىصله هوتا هے

[@almemon3691]

@@afzalahmad5519 Muawiyah bhi apna HAQ samajhta tha ke hukumat uski hai, lekin nateeja kya nikla? Khaleefa e Raashid ke khilaaf baghawat ki usney? Is baghawat se ummat ka faida hua ya nuqsaan?

[@funwithsisters9102]

La Haula Wala Quwata Illa Billahil Ali UL Azeem.

[@ghpir9664]

incisive, informative realistic analysis. One need to share it far and wide

[@PeoplePlateAndPlaces]

Great Ghamdhi sb is an ocean of knowledge. Thanks for your teachings

[@farazahmed5706]

Respectfully disagree with Ghamidi sahab. Hazrat Ali aur Hazrat muavia Eman Kay lehaz say aik ho saktay hain? Hazrat ALI nay aghosh e Risalat main ankh kholi jab kay janab muavia fatah makka kay waqt Eman lai, Dono hazraat barabar kaisay ho saktay hain? Dosra Bukhari aur Muslim ke mustanad ahadees ko Aap Kaisay jhutlain gay jo iss poray waqia ka ehata Hazrat Ali kay Haq main karti hain. Please answer required

[@ehtashamkhan1110]

Jazakallah

[@sheikhhilalalvi3733]

Being a student of History & comparative religions n sects i completely & strictly contradict the opinion of ghamdi.Its mauviya who is responsible of changing khilafat-e-Rashida in malookkiyat.Its mauviya who alone is responsible of the جنگ جمل جنگ صفین n Karbala mauviya is the one who was in those whom Prophet Mohammad(Pbuh) made free in Talqas (طلقا) and not was the companion of Prophet (Pbuh) its my humble request to ghamdi to restudy history.

[@sohailmuzaffar8408]

Mauwiya was a capable person for the job. He did it for twenty years very efficiently. He deserved to be leader.

[@abdulgaffargoolamfareed7633]

Brother! Imam Malik said "with the exception of Nabi saw there is nobody on earth who cannot be differed with". Nabi saw categorically PREDICTED (prediction is only possible via wahi) that a REBEL group will martyr (kill) ammar bin yasir ra. He was killed by whose group?

[@rationalbeing17]

By the ones who killed uthman I.e rebels,=bulwayi=khawarij who formed the basis of fitan.. This is the grup who formed a a third party=dogs of hell when two major MuSlims grups of Ali and Muawiyah who both claimed the same thing i.e they were right.... Ali fought the khawarij and thus it became clear he was closer to truth then Muawiyah but he was correct as well..... About hasan bin Ali it's a prediction he will make pact between two VERY BIG groups of Muslims which was fulfilled when he gave khilafat to muawiyah under whom ummah was united and he appointed yazid just so that ummah will be united like explained by ghmdi sb

[@firemaniac12345]

You used the word 'prediction (meaning something that might happen)' and then you say it's from Allah.. Whatever is revealed to Prophet through WAHI is full and final not a prediction...

[@anwerbutt2621]

Sir G you are confused, your reasoning is based on a secular interpretation of political history. Islam had a set of principles based on relegilus ethics which did not agree with the secular tradition of rule of the powerful. These events changed lslamic tradition drastically and the institution of klhilafat was corrupted for ever. The man responsible for this zulm Cannot be at par with the man who tried to continuea lslamic tradition.

[@rationalbeing17]

Haha

[@firemaniac12345]

What is Secular interpretation of political history... ? please enlighten us on this new subject...

[@MuhammadIrfan-dt7qi]

Allah apko hidayat dy

[@shoaibgillanigillani5839]

Sorry ghamdi sb but apki raye ghalat h..... Kia Imam Hassan ki sulah k bad muavia ny Hazrat Usman ky qatilo ko pakra? R muavia ky kirdar ny ye sabit krdia h k unki baghawat zaati maqasid k hasol k liye r purani khandani tasub tha

[@ranamuhammad9195]

Very good

[@aasifansari9012]

Allah aapko salaamat rakhe gaamidi Sahab bohot hi achhe andaaz se samjhate h aap or bohot ikhlaak ke Saath mashallah

[@hasanmd8601]

He treated the topic politically. This should be treated on the basis of ahadith. He treated the issue impersonally on the basis of historic logic as if it was an issue between tow monarchs.

[@WaliKhan-lr3sv]

It was a political issue.

[@jawadnaqvilines]

#KhawajaMesumAbbas Is Video Ke Shuru Main Ghaamdi Sahab Ne Jo Baat Ki He Agar Usse Jamhooriyat K Point of view se diekha jai to bohat achi baat ki he lekin Maktab-e-Tashayo Ka ikhtelaaf Yahi Par He K Hakumat Ya Haakim ka intekhaab Khuda Ke Bando Ka Haq Nahin He Balke Ye Haq Khuda Ka He ....

[@sharjeeljawaid]

Respective Ghamdi Saheb , I have been listening to your lecture for many years. I beg to differ with you on the subject. By any standards it was sedition against a Rashid Khalifa.

How can Muawiyya, a sahaba, be wrong?

[@sharjeeljawaid]

@ any mortal human can make a mistake

@@sharjeeljawaid a sahaba can never be wrong

[@shakilahmad8246]

Ghamdi never was rebellion against Rashid Khilafa. Secondly Islam as law/system/religion was complete after last wahi. So Rashid Khilafat must be taken as government, social law & difference of opinion NOT as part of Islam. It is history that is being discussed not Islam. If you understand this then u may free your mind

[@ibeesh3792]

Main balance sunni hun Ghamdi sahab, main ap k point of view say dis agree karta hun. Ap ko omar series (Qatar drama serial) dekh k pata lag jaye ga k abu sufiyaan group Nabi k dunya say chalay janay k baad hi government ka talib ban gaya tha.

[@shahidafwan1102]

Good answer by great ghamidi

[@ssomroo1528]

GREAT ALIM AND SCHOLAR . HE EXPLAINED IT VERY WELL.

[@shariqali3172]

Javed sb me apky ilm o danish ke bht qadar krta hun bht seekha hy apki baton se hut waqya krbla ya khikafat.e Ali ko lekr apki bat smj nahi aai koi kesy thk hoskta hy jub raslullah s a.w. ka farman ho k meri all se mutliq mamlat me bht ahytiat krna yah tk farman hy k jahan haq hy waha Ali hy... to phir in farmodat k bad koi itni baei hasti k khilaf talwar uthay wo kesy thk hoskta hy... Ap ku itny bary alim hokr maslhat se kam ley rahy hny haq bat kehna apka mission khudara is mamly me bhe umat ke thk rehnumai kegaiy bhla qatil or maqtool bhe brabar hoskta hy apny zamir ke awaz ko suniy adal kegiay...pls

[@AhmadAJAli]

محترم غاندي صاحب اس وقت كي بڑی ضرورت غیر مسلموں کو دعوت اسلام دینا ہے ، تاکہ اللہ کا فیصلہ نازل ہو و ما کنا معذبین حتی نبعث رسولا ،۔ قرآن آپکو اللہ نے صلاحیت دی ہے اسے صحیح جگہ استعمال کرئیے ۔

[@shahanarizvi1008]

He is doing business for his generations

[@dgreen9653]

@@shahanarizvi1008 he is saying truth.....and he is true scholar of islam.

[@shahanarizvi1008]

D Green mawia ko sahabi e rasool karney wala, waqia e karbala ko mun ghardak bataney wala or mola Ali as per jhoti tohmatin lganey waley ko hum ilm phelaney wala alim nahi balkey jahalat phelaney wala alim zaror Khey saktey hai

[@organicHub29]

Bohat Ala Ghami sb

[@aqibbashir1986]

Ma sha Allah nice.... But why hazrat Muawiya chose his son as a leader? Tab tou koi nazaa ki halat nahi thi?

[@chronicdiseases6274]

Hazrat Ali Ra chose hazrat Hasan Ra next to him but hazrat Hasan Ra left government in favour of hazrat Ameer mauvia Ra

[@TEXLIFE]

@@chronicdiseases6274 You Are an idiot People choose hassan ibn ali not ali a.s

[@shahanarizvi1008]

Anwar Hussain why lmam Hassun left power because he know that mawiah will kill all the innocent companions he doesn’t want blood war between Muslims that’s why he give up , just like mola Ali because they know these people wants the power over the Islam!

[@saqsaqib]

@anwar Hussain. Ali (RA) never choose Hasan (RA). When people asked him can we choose Hasan (RA) as our next chalipha hz Ali replied 'i don't stop you nor I give you the permission ' it's up to you people . After Ali people chooses hz Hasan RA as their chalipha and for the 6months we should consider Hasan was chalipha.

[@summerabbas2901]

itni umar ho gai abi tak ye ni jis ko pata chala k khlifa e rashid k hilaaf harooj karny waly ko baaghi kehty hain.us ko kya kaha ja sakta ha

[@szj666]

After reading comments, now I can understand Sharif family and Bhutto family will rule next 100 years in Pakistan.

[@shahidsiddique5969]

Only hundred years?????

[@shahanarizvi1008]

🤣🤣🤣

[@qasimjahangir5308]

Great teacher sir ghamidy

[@mer5152]

What is your opinion off gadir e khum as nabi sa has declared Ali as as maula. You have to start from gadir e khum then you can reach a fair conclusion

[@afzaalmultipletv7988]

Nice great scholor

[@atifmazhar1183]

Log Ghamdi Sahib say marzi Ka point of view laina chahtay Hain kion keh Har Kisi ki apna Firqa Azeez Hay Na keh Deen E Islam

[@adilakhtar676]

امیر معاویہ نے اپنی شخصی حکومت بنائی۔عدل و انصاف کو خیر باد کہا۔ اور اپنے بیٹے یزید کو اپنا ولی عہد بنا دیا۔جبکہ صحابہ اس فیصلہ بلکل غلط تصور کرتے تھے۔

[@mohammadmehdi6560]

The problem is that the two leaders waged a war against one another so equivocating and double speak is same is hypocrisy. This is especially true since the Holy Prophet in several Ahadith had indicated that Ali (AS) was with Truth and Truth was with Imam Ali. In fact there is a specific Hadith which points to who will be on the right side in one of the major wars during the time Imam Ali was leading the Khilafa. It is hypocrisy which began in Imam Ali's time which culminated and led to event of Karbala because people avoided to take a stand and let the Holy Prophet down. This is the same case till today.. when only one group of people is willing to stand for rights of oppressed muslims like Palestinians.. the others just are concerned with earning their bread and butter, justifying their hypocrisy or flattering world powers to trample the rights of oppressed and weak, instead of being sincere only to Allah. They are thus performing a form of Shirk.

[@letstalkideas9102]

Established History? I disagree with Gamdi shb on many points being discussed in this series. One can easily get the feeling of Gamdi shb being fearful of telling the truth by bringing in the plain facts regarding the sad episode of Karbala and Khilafat of Hazrat Ali R.A.

[@MARK--IT]

"Feeling of Ghamidi sb being fearful of telling truth" I mean who gives you this right to go into hearts and minds of people, you can and should only disagree with whatever your argument is, but being judgmentle in historical issues will take away your neutrality and credibility to understand the matter as it is in actuality..

[@sabiruddinsiddiqui8683]

Can’t be more disagree...The fact that is it was a revolt against the clearly established norms of electing the successor through Shura.And to bypass this norm is unjustifiable.There could be any number of the claimants for the position in question but established system must have been followed in letter and spirit.Alternatively, an attempt should have been made to replace it peacefully by some more acceptable system. Clearly,theLust of power resulted in the most condemnable bloodshed of the innocents in the history of lslam.

[@umarmalik7000]

🖕

[@callmeerteza2454]

He did not follow even Sharait e Hassan.... 😡😡😡ur views boasting to kill you.. Im now very dis appointed from you..

[@umarmalik7000]

🖕

[@shakilahmad8246]

Shariat Nabi ki hoti hai kisi aur aur ki nahi chahay wo koi bhi ho. Aap apna ehtisaab karein

[@callmeerteza2454]

@@shakilahmad8246 sharaaaaet means TERMS... Not sharyat..... He didn't accomplish those Terms which imaam hassan put fronted between all gathering...he said I will but he didn't.. Due to those Terms HASSAN AS didn't war with him also for Prevention OF Muslim bleeding

[@javediqbal6978]

Asslam o Alaikum, aap jab Rasalat Ma'ab SAW k baad k waqeat ko byan farma kar Sahadat e Hussain ka pas e manzar bata rahein hein. Agar pas e manzar ko Nabi Karim SAW k aelane nabuwat se le kr Hajatul wida aur phir aap SAW k parda farmany tk k waqeaat par bhi ghaur farmaein. Hazrat Abu Safyan RA aur Hazrat e Muawia RA ka kirdar kia raha. Hazrat Ali ka kirdar dekhein. Hazrat Ali k hathun jo kaffar mary gay un ka uper byan kiay gay sahaba ka kia rishta tha. Kia badly ki aag khatam ho gai thi. Hazarat e Amir Muawia ne Hazrat Usman RA ko shaheed karny walun k sath kia kia?

[@mohammedyakub3796]

Ummat me ye aag firqa Ahle sunnat pak ke baani Engineer Ali Mirza ki lagai huwi hai, oski har Majlis aur har bayan Ka sirf ek hi maqsad hota hai ke, Amma Ayesha, aur hazrat Othman aur hazrat mavia ki burai karna aur onke khilaf ummat ke Dil me nafrat aur bugz dalna. Aur hazrat Ali ko paighambar Ka darja dilana hota hai, jabke hazrat Ali sahabi e rasool aur musalmanau ke chauthe khalifa hain, aur ye Mirza onko No1 banane par Tula huwa hai, ye ek number Ka kaminah, chupa huwa rafzi aur munafiq hai,,

[@roomanhamza7170]

he is plante like ishaq

[@alihashim6228]

GHAMDI's THESIS OF REAL POLITIK IN ISLAM Just watched a few video's by Javed Amed Ghamdi a prominent Pakistani religious scholar discussing the historical back ground of the Incident of Karbala- This is actually a series of 4 videos which describe the succession process after the death of the prophet ( pbuh). I had always regarded Mr. Ghamdi a very rational person and found his videos quite educative and also based on rational thinking. His basic thesis in this case is is that the process of succession of the prophet was r recognition of the realities on the ground and coming up with a solution which would be best for the preservation and progress of the Islamic Empire- i.e. real-politik. ( e.g. giving the quaraish the right to choose rather than the whole muslim Ummah etc. ) As for Karbala he says that this was a natural consequence of the non recognition by Imam Hussain of Yazid who in turn was the only leader that Mauvia could have nominated to preserve the Islaimc kingdom - else there would have been civil war. ( He actually mentions the recent khashogghi inicdent in suport of his thesis that such refusalsresult in these type of incidents). Albeit sounding brutal to me ( my being a Shia) I could go along with his thesis based on real plitik. My only critiicism is that after adopting a real politik basis for action it is not possible to move back to a moral criterion. Therefore, first it is not acceptable that one can attach any moral superiority to those who have adopted this startegy- e.g one cannot say that they cannot be crtiicized or condemend because they are the companions of the prophet. They are as much subject to criticism or condemnation as any other historical figure who as adopted similar techniques-e.g. Stalin, Hitler, Putin or other tyrants who live in the pages of history. Secondly the progress of the Islamic Kingdom looses all moral basis as a religion. It would then be absolutely correct that Islam was spread by the sword- Ghamdi actually says that in time sof such uncertainty- the sword descides what needs to be done- Secondly this perspective then also deprives the under dogs of all times for any recourse to moral or humanatarian objections for crimes againt them by the tyrannical counterparts of their time- e.g. The Crimes against the Palestinians as by the Israelis. Also, this explains the violence that is associated with Islam today- so why the criticism of Islamophbia- Perhaps BOKO Haram, ISIS and Al Qauda just view if the appropriate strategy from their perspective of what is the state of the World. Also it seems rigging elections to suit political situations has been a basis in Islam since day one, so why all the surprise that democracies do not flourish in Islamic countries? My message to Mr. Ghamdi is that yes adopt a real politik basis for interpretation but recognize that once you have done this, then there is no going back. You cannot have it both ways-e.g. citing a religious basis for these actions. This is a pact with the devil and ,there is no reprieve.

[@fazalhadi3251]

Itni umr itna ilm aur samaj rakhne k bad me agr glt ko glt sahi ko sahi na keh pao to jaan lo k Barzakh bht mushkil hai.. Ghamandi sb ap bht confuse hai

[@mariamtee]

I think Ghamidi sahab is the greatest scholar of this century and I agree with him on almost everything including his rejection of the second coming of Hazrat Isa and his interpretation of parda and Zeenat and like him I reject Shia concept of Imamat. I do however feel that he has some aversion to Karbala and Ahl e bait. He even calls Mirza Qadiani as sahab but doesn’t show the respect that Ali ana his family deserve. In fact as a Sunni Muslim I think we need to reclaim Ali from the clutches of Shia ignorance. He didn’t need to be born in Haram or be the first Imam or be divinely ordained to be the powerhouse of bravery and wisdom that he was. Again it is Ghamidi sahab himself who has taught me that there is no Imam or perfection after the Prophet SAW so this aspect of his personality I do not agree with.

[@mushtaquehusainsaudagar6276]

Hamid Sahab Nabi S.A.ki ahadis ki roshni me aap ki guftagu galat hai.Apni aara ko zara mehdood kare.Jab sab cheez wazeh hai to sap Ka tabsera ilmi zaroor hai Nagar baatil hai.

[@amjadali0606]

واقعہ کربلا کے پس منظر خلافت علی سے بھی پہلے واقعہ سقیفہ بنی ساعدہ کو بھی سمجھنا ضروری ھے سقیفہ میں غامدی صاحب بغیر قریش جمہوریت کیسی ؟

[@asifhussain9117]

I'm totally disagree and disappointed with ghamdi sb , Hazrat Ali was right path in all his political issues that was raised by ameer moavia according to Saheh Hedees

[@shakilahmad8246]

When did Ghamdi say that Ali was wrong? Self explanation is dangerous view point in Pakistanis as special case and also in Muslims as general scenario.

[@doctornaqvi9888]

Why mavya breaks treaty with Imam hasan allehssilam Whether it is Islam wada todna is it islam Aur duniya parasti

[@khurramabbas7785]

Ali A.S or olad e Ali ki bat Ajay tu haq or batil wazay ho jata hai,

[@haidereumshah]

نبی کی حدیث کا ترجمع علی حق اور حق علی اور دوسری بات جب نبی نے کاغز اور قلم مانگا تو نعوزوبلا نبی کو حزیان کہنے کاجرم کس نے کیا ۔سچ بہت کڑوا ہوتا ہے لیکن اسکو بولنے والا ضروری ہے کہ تقوی کی منزل پہ ہو۔دو ٹوک بات

[@tanveerakhtar1507]

Great knowledge

[@anzalnanawaz1464]

Long story short! Event of "Karbala" is a Muslim History and not ISLAM and should be studied as such, And the people those who wants to make (Faith) out of it, than it's their own spirituality, even though, that Imam Hussain was on the right side of the causes, still is a Muslim History and can not be studied as Islamiat.

[@Fahimsayyed1]

Itne bade Scholar se aisy ummed nahi thi Hazrat Ali jinke support me Nabi ki kitni hi hadeese moujud hain unke barabar Hazrat Ameer Muawiya ko kaise khada kiya ja sakta hai

[@Fahimsayyed1]

Aur sab kuchh agar chhod bhi diya jaye to Hazrat Muawiya ne apni zindagi me Yazeed ke bare me sab kuchh jante huye bhi kyu wali ahdi karayi yazeed ki

[@Spl_Educationist]

غامدی صاحب لفظوں کے ساتھ کھیل رہے ہیں. واقعہ کربلا اتنا سنجیدہ مسئلہ ہے. لیکن اس پر سنجیدہ گفتگو نہیں کرنا چاہ رہے.

[@dr.mujahidmughal]

Wise analysis. ❤

[@shafqatali4461]

Hazrat mawia k kirdar k bare me kia khain ge islam ki roh ma

[@fazalsamad8773]

عمار یاسر والی حدیث سے ثابت نہیں ہوتا کہ علی رضی اللہ عنہ حق پر تھے پھر حضرت امیر معاویہ کا خلیفہ کے خلاف جانا خلافت مٹانے کے مترادف نہیں تھا ؟

[@AbdulQadeer-gw4zq]

Sayedna Ali r.a ko saray he haq pr mantay hain us pr to kisi ka ikhtelaf nhi... Lekin iska mtlb ye b nhi k sayedna muavia r.a batil pr thay... Sayedna muavia b haq pr he tha lekin sayedna Ali r.a zyada haq pr tha.

[@AbdulQadeer-gw4zq]

Ammar bin Yasir r.a wali riwayat ko blkul ghalat andaaz ma pesh kia jata ha... Rawafiz us se jo mtlb nikaltay hain wo asal ma ha nhi.

[@universalsardar]

@@AbdulQadeer-gw4zq حق اور باطل سنا تھا حق اور زیادہ حق ماڈرن روشن خیال تاریخ کا کمال لگتا ہے

[@AbdulQadeer-gw4zq]

@@universalsardar agr ap k ghr ma ap k maa baap ka kisi chz k baray ma ikhtelaf ho jaye to ap kisi ko batil smjho ga ya dono ko un k opinion k mutabiq thk smjho ga?

[@universalsardar]

@@AbdulQadeer-gw4zq جی بلکل اگر گھر میں کچھ لڑائی ہو جاے اور شوہر بیوی کو. یا بیوی شوہر کو قتل کر دے. تب بھی ایک طحق پر اور دوسرا زیادہ حق پو ہو گا؟ سامنے کھلو قتل عام ہوا اور اس پر بھی ایسی دلیلیں حضرت معاویہ رضی اللہ پر کف لسان کا مجمہ علیہ موقف ہی سب دمسے بہتر موقف ہے رہی یزید کی تو اس کو بھی رح بنانے والے موجود ہیں

[@tagiolaghari8976]

سقیفہ بنو ساعدہ میں خاندان بنو ھاشم کا کوئی فرد نہیں تھا اور پھر وہاں موجود افراد میں اتفاق بھی نہیں ہو رہا تھا

[@nommusta6718]

When the great personalities of Islam and the House of prophet is present then the people will listen to them or to those who don't belong to the center "Madina of Nabi"

[@shaikhamiruddin5848]

Sare fisad ki jad hai Hazrat Usman RA ka qatl hona aur iss qatal ka qassas na liya jana.Hazrat Bibi Ayesha RA aur Hazrat Muayia RA ka qassas ke mutalbe par unse jang karna,lakhon musalmanon ka qatl hona aur barbadi hona.

[@drtsaeed1]

What about all those people killed from both sides, who is responsible? History is very apparent Ali as is on the right path.

[@syedaskari9905]

Ghamdi Sahab’s whole approach is rational but brims with easy certainty. He is giving too much leeway to a certain narrative. What was the point of all this exercise called Islam if he is right.

[@trustwinners3765]

Janab e Ali RA ko Hassan RA ne roka tha k Qatileen e Usman ki di hui khilaafat qabool na kren. Ali RA ne Qatileen e Usman ko qabool kia or unhi k hatho qatal hue.

[@Aftab-sherazi]

Amar ra ko Baghi Jamat katal krey gi Amar ra unhy jannat ki taraf bulaye ga wo Jamat usy dozakh ki trf bulaye gi. Is Hadees se wazih he k Mola Ali as ki Khilafat haq pe thi balky Hazrat umer ra k bad agr Mola Ali as khalifa banty to Mamlat behtr huty .

[@MrAlimoon]

ye tmam hukmat to hazrat umar kay dour tak expand kar chuki thi phe ghamidi shab ye formula hazrat usman ki selection pay kyun nhin laga rahy ??????? expansion kay 13 sal bad discomfrt sirf Hazrat Ali a.s kay waqt pay he ana tha????? ghamidi sahab haq ka daman puri trha say chor diya hai ap ny shrm kerain .

[@usamabinsajid8221]

غامدی صاحب کی بصیرت اور فہم قابلِ تحسین ہے لیکن مزاج بہت ٹھنڈا ہے صحیح کو صحیح اور غلط کہنا چاہیئے نبی ص نے فرمایا تھا عمار کو ایک باغی جماعت قتل کرے گی

[@s.zubair359]

عمار رضی اللہ عنہ کے قاتل کا کیا نام ہے ۔نامزد کر دیں؟

[@roomanhamza7170]

@@s.zubair359 abu ghadiyah

[@doctornaqvi9888]

Why hazarat umer did not give Kagaz qalam dawaat to rasoole Islam

[@mohammadlaiquerrahman5410]

Wah ghamdi sahab wah awesome explanation.

[@mohsinfarooqui5169]

Boht elmi aur muffasil bayan...jazak Allah

[@lakhosuhail]

Ameer Muawiya k bare me Established history me baghawat ki sahih Hadith se bhi sabit hoti he fir hum Ameer Muawiya k bare kiyon istadilal nhn kar sakte?