The Karen Read 20/20 interview. The Trooper Proctor Problem: will it get worse? The Emily Show Ep309

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[@KoriLinae]

I totally think Trooper Proctor's work phone is absolutely discoverable! The Norfolk County District Attorney's office should NOT be involved with this review. They are way too close to all of the ongoing investigation(s).

[@jannettb7930]

I do not understand how it isn't, or why is it even a question. I work for oregon judicial dept, it is absolutely hammered into our heads that ALL work product is subject to foia. That includes emails, chats, texts, etc and if you use your personal phone/laptop for work then that is also subject.

[@lynnhauenstein4136]

In my area. Rural MO. A Judge from another county get brought just to review the question to remove DA from deciding and even the local judge to prevent they being inadvertently prejudiced. They call them special masters. Just to review limited scope. Locally DAs and judges are elected. And are sensitive to appearance of fairness.

[@MsAtown10]

@@jannettb7930 It's Norfolk County😵‍💫 They do whatever they want there👌 The DA is besties with our pathetic Governor 😤

[@sad.jackfr00t]

100%. He was a public servant, he worked for the government. If anything on that phone is relevant to Karen’s case, it is discoverable because that’s not Proctor’s personal phone and he has no expectation of privacy with his work (government-owned) phone.

[@mariaskinnider115]

An outside agency must deal with this. Morrisey and Norfolk county cannot be allowed to investigate or make any decision in this matter.

[@Yukihiromol]

Classic case of "We have investigated ourselves fully and found no wrong doing."

[@CarolynsArtAdventures]

"We're not here because I'm concise". Truer words.. and we love you for it!

[@patriotiac572]

We sure do love Emily for not being concise. Details matter. Every single one.

[@MrMiyagisChipOnChipOff]

The reason John's mom thought she had something to do with it was because Jen McCabe did a whole PR campaign that day calling everyone she knew and spreading suspicion. And yes, Karen felt uncomfortable and left. I would have left too if people looked at me like that.

[@AJD09FB]

And she already hated Karen. Several of John's friends testified to that. Only John's father liked her.

[@michellel2773]

Exactly

[@brirashrn5445]

Jen McCabe that is my Halloween costume next month and I already purchased my barracuda teeth to match hers

[@melsafken764]

​@@brirashrn5445😅

[@jessieroos128]

Paul O’Keefe also stated in his interview that his Mom immediately said she thought Karen did this.

[@MadeOfQuestions]

If Proctors phone doesn't have location data that puts him in places, he swore he wasn't under oath... I'd want it released... what are they hiding???

[@mhfuzzball]

I especially want to know if there was a bit where he drove for 60 feet at 24 mph.

[@harley6222]

@@mhfuzzballoh! Good one!

[@ABCsDocket]

I love that you explain things like TLDR so we can step in at anytime and can be in the know

[@SirFigsAlot]

This is absolutely an insane abuse of power. Thay DA needs to drop some of these cases proctor was involved in.... but we know they won't because all they care about is putting people in jail

[@MadeOfQuestions]

The DA is Morresey... he's the most corrupt of all the flying monkeys... no way he drops a single case... he has to keep the distractions going. What better way than using Proctors shenanigans to keep the heat off him. Of all the things people should care about, they want to focus exclusively on Proctor calling Karen horrible names... and Morresey is going to keep directing all the attention there to keep the attention away from the shit show that is the Norfolk County DA office! Like detectives working directly with the DA prosecuting the case and so much MORE

[@amandamosteller1371]

Locking people up and writing citations is how towns/counties make money... its a shame but it's true. They can say hey this is how many Mary Jane arrest/citations we've had, so we need x amount of federal funds to "beef" up our drug task force. Same with murders, they can claim gang activity, requests more vehicles for patrols etc. City Leos are also instructed to write as many fine citations as possible so the city/county council doesn't have to raise taxes on citizens

[@AmyB369]

They care about protecting the criminals that work for the commonwealth

[@Angelface11]

Well yeah that's how a lot of prosecutors are. A lot of them actually care about having plea deals taken and they like having ticks on their record of then having control over people. It's how they treat a lot of people including a ton of innocent people

[@christinegreen3974]

It says a lot that it took a federal investigation to open up a lot of evidence to the defense. Corruption seems to be firmly entrenched in the MA State Police and it makes me wonder how many people have been falsely charged/imprisoned. They seem to have the ability to create air-tight cases with very biased evidence.

[@chesneymigl4538]

I'm gland there was finally an arrest in the Sandra Birchmore case. So it's working

[@SHARONKEEF_FkR_justice4john]

@@christinegreen3974 I agree I be willing to bet there a whole lotta people who could be in that situation.

[@EZDPhilly]

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[@veronicadiaz186]

I love it!

[@mardyross2838]

I really like this on her.

[@mjaboston-gn3tu]

No remorse whatsoever except that he got caught! Vile!!! 😢

[@NottyAries]

Sounds like they need to bring in a special prosecutor from anywhere but there.

[@ABCsDocket]

Not Fulton county either

[@ValleysGirl]

How about Kari Morrissey😂

[@MollyZelko2.0]

They did…And how. Can’t wait to hear what Emily thinks about tapping a top def atty (who previously defended Whitey Bulger) as SP but still keeping Lally and co on. I’ve never seen that done. That’s the theme of this case…never seen that one before.

[@reneemitchell4281]

I forgot who said it on the stand, I believe it was the person who drove Karen back to find John, but she said as soon as they got to the hospital, Johns mom started yelling at Karen. Saying something like "you just dropped him off and left him there?!" So Karen was probably already feeling targeted before she even when back to the house

[@kyuubisgirl3232]

It’s sad but I can believe that. Normally nobody would care that you dropped a grown man off at a house with his friends but grief makes you target the first person you can think of. Even when physics is against them, this family has been vile to KR and won’t stop. This poor woman.

[@TracyJuliano-xt5je]

Kerry Roberts said the mom was saying that on the way to the hospital after Kerry picked them up.

[@bebitamira3054]

Karen Reed seems like a very nasty woman. She seems like a controlling person that wanted her boyfriend do as she said, Otherwise she will throw a tantrum and make his life miserable. Boy the way she will scream at him on phone calls! No wonder he wanted to break up with her! I think KR just was enamored with THE IDEA of having an instant family ( with John and his kids, yes I know the kids are not his) more than she was in love with John. I am thinking John, share his thoughts with his family members. That’s why his mother didn’t like Karen. On top of that KR is very petulant and odious to me. That may have help too. Anyway, that’s one thing, another is KR killed John. Do I think she killed him? I was 50/50 Now I am not sure. There is still lots of questions without answers to make it clear to me.

[@sunnysunsins]

@@bebitamira3054 okay Jen, you can log off now

[@maud9460]

@@bebitamira3054 nasty is johns mom and his greedy brother not karen

[@forcryinoutloud]

During the trial we heard that one of the first things John's mother said to hear was "You left him ALONE?", clearly blaming Karen for his death. I highly doubt she would have been any less accusing when Karen went to the house, especially if she saw the crack from hitting John's car. 🤷🏻 She was smart to immediately get a lawyer. I really don't think she had a particularly good relationship with his family even before John's death. It really doesn't take much for people that don't like you to decide you did something wrong, while covering for the people with more clear evidence of involvement. I hope this eventually reaches the right result, but I sadly do not believe John's killer(s) will ever be brought to justice. His family will forever believe the Norfolk spin, in spite of the evidence to the contrary, and think she did it. All I keep thinking is that John deserved better from EVERYONE in this case. From cops, to prosecutors, to family & yes even to Karen & her lawyers. I get why they're running the defense the way they are but it truly is so sad to see how little JOHN has been remembered in this case.

[@PhoebeMc]

John's mother acted like she'd left her 3 yr old alone at a birthday party!! Peggy dearly loved, & obviously babied her previous son. I'm sorry for them but they've been truly obnoxious throughout this entire ordeal. I doubt they're going to get justice, either. Sadly. Imprisoning Karen Read doesn't get justice for the death of John O'Keefe.

[@sad.jackfr00t]

@@PhoebeMc 💯 🙌🏻👏🏻

[@demi8890]

@@PhoebeMc I find it so difficult to feel sympathy for John’s mother and brother anymore. Of course losing a family member is awful, I’ll always feel for them for losing John, but to behave the way they did in court is an insult to everything John stood for as a good police officer and protector. God only knows how he’d feel if he knew that his mother laughed during trial as Proctor’s dehumanising comments against Karen were read out, or if he knew that his brother threatened Karen saying he “wasn’t finished with her yet”. It doesn’t matter how sympathetic someone is or what they’ve been through, nothing ever gives anyone the right to treat another human being like their life is worth nothing. Peggy and Paul don’t care that Proctor and his sister literally wished Karen would end her own life, and that says everything about the anti-Karen group in Canton. They’re all animals.

[@lisajohnson1569]

She told her dad that night she hit something - he said it on a tv interview- too bad the station won’t release it

[@PhoebeMc]

She did hit something!! John's car!! I lost respect, (not that I had any but I did feel horrible for John's family) when Paul stated in the ridiculous interview with Christina Rex, he & his mother knew she'd killed him before the cops said a word!! They gotta "vibe!!" And Christina Rex lobbing those softball questions at Paul, pretending, or maybe not, to be in his side when she referred to "the Pink People"!! That was journalistic embarrassment!! She'd been on STSa couple of time stating she couldn't show bias, due to her being a reporter... was she NOT a reporter when she interviewed Paul O'Keefe? Or was she trying to get a date? It was repulsive!! 🤢🤢🤮🤮🤮

[@archangel807]

Proctor investigated and accused someone of Murder.....ALL of his work and cell phone history belongs to KR

[@crystalfarmer4074]

Did he really investigate though?

[@mariaskinnider115]

@@archangel807 Not the other cases. That’s why it has to be an independent investigation as there is sensitive info regarding other crimes. Apparently Kevin Alberts investigation is complete and he’s back on the job. So definitely needs to be an independent body looking into Proctor otherwise Canton county will offer him compensation for the upset he’s been through 🤬🤬🤬

[@maud9460]

@@crystalfarmer4074 no he planted evidence

[@pjm9850]

@@crystalfarmer4074 nope

[@HughHerman-m4o]

She admitted to hitting him, to numerous people, not personally involved in the case. Then turned around and made up a lie to cover her ass. You all believe the witch.

[@marslance]

There are two sides to this: there is the woman being wrongfully prosecuted by the state in the face of completely incongruent evidence, whose corrupt officers assisted in covering up and deflecting the suspicious death of John O'Keefe, and then there is the bereaved family who supports the unjust and corrupt efforts of the state. I can COMPLETELY understand feelings of animosity towards the surviving O'Keefes.

[@amandamosteller1371]

JOKs mother said she blamed KR because she dropped him off and didn't go inside with him.

[@mitch6969123]

⁠​⁠@@amandamosteller1371I think because Jonh was police they are automatically believing what the police are telling them. Paul played ball with Tully in school, he could even be friends with other offices. The death of another family member could have traumatize them. They could also just be stubborn..

[@PeterLauderdale]

So confusing how the O’Keefe family isn’t outraged with this atrocious police work which is at best shabby at worst a cover up. How they can be so firmly convinced of her guilt is beyond confusing and can easily Be attributed to the need for retribution no matter who it is.

[@amandamosteller1371]

@mitch6969123 I agree but it's almost like they don't want to see the truth. And maybe it's because they know that this investigation is so screwed up that they'll never know what really happened to JOK unless someone confesses. So they just want KR to take the blame because she shouldn't have left him there.

[@Chloe.zyxwvu]

There’s a third side that can consider the presented evidence and conclude that Karen Read was just as credible as the dog story her defense presented. Money and notoriety will buy you better experts to support your theory. Even Scott Peterson is being given another chance by the courts because of backing by the LAIP. Unfortunately the support for Read has gone fanatical to the point where the victims families are being insulted and derided. Support Read to your endless desire, but this is becoming tantamount to bullying and harassment of the OKeefe family who have spent years answering to ravenous public. Real pain isn’t for the viewers pleasure.

[@_Annowar]

I know someone who works at Fidelity Investments. They said as soon as she was hit with charges, she was fired. She was a really high up employee. It's pretty wild. I feel for her.

[@joannapetrova7089]

Late stage capitalists don't have souls.

[@colinhillson]

You are correct, I am NOT here because you are concise 😂

[@MadeOfQuestions]

14:30 even Law and Order knows you dont have the investigators working directly under the DA procecuting the case. ... the people are represented by two separate yet equally important groups: the police, who investigate crime; and the district attorneys, who prosecute the offenders. Sad state of affairs when they get it right on TV and wrong IRL

[@pineywoodslawandcrime]

Amen 🙏

[@mjaboston-gn3tu]

At least one person in that house slipped on the stand and said John entered the house.

[@MollyZelko2.0]

So many ppl clung to that as a big deal and I didn’t see it that way at all. She said when John was there…never said IN the house. We all know he was ‘there’ since he was found on their lawn. I think she’s innocent but I still don’t think that was some big slip.

[@waitaminute2015]

​@@MollyZelko2.0Higgins still said he maybe saw someone, but can't be sure. Way to cover his own asxxx since the feds are breathing down their necks and by kinda sorta maybe I saw a man, gives him an out. Ridiculous.

[@elainejohnson6955]

​@waitaminute2015 Higgins knew John O'Keefe pretty well. So, if it was John, he would have recognized him.l

[@fuzz..]

@@elainejohnson6955- If Higgins identified JO in the house, the defence’s theory of something happened within the premises and KR didn’t leave him on the lawn gets a huge boost. She goes Scot free, and the attention is on all the party attendants. You wouldn’t dob yourself in by admitting it was JO who came into the house.

[@mjaboston-gn3tu]

@@MollyZelko2.0 Ok so you see it differently. But, if you’re correct, WHEN did she see him on the lawn??? Hmm. I really think you’re incorrect. Then there’s Higgins saying there was a tall guy behind him. Wouldn’t mention a name so he couldn’t be caught in a lie.

[@melsafken764]

Having Lally & crew investigate themselves & Proctor just seems like a re-run of the previous investigatation. 😢

[@beccalink5011]

Good morning, afternoon, and evening law nerds.

[@colleenoneal6269]

Was just trying to figure out what to listen to while working. Easy choice now. Thanks Emily.

[@WineYogi]

Wow-awesome recap, Emily!! I’m still completely wrapped up in this case!

[@mjaboston-gn3tu]

It was very, very hard to respect his mother that flipped Karen the Finger in open court. That definitely negated a bit of respect that she would normally deserve.

[@sarahdee434]

And also laughed at Proctors comments about KR in court

[@bonesonstones1]

​@@sarahdee434yeah, that was hard to watch. You can grieve and believe that she's guilty while being horrified that a police officer conducted themselves in despicable ways.

[@susanharrington8715]

oh my… never saw that… ugh

[@kellieyang77]

The thing for me is this is j okeefes family. This is who brouvht him up and raised him. If the apple doesnt fall far then maybe its one less bad officer.His brother also comes across as bit sus. Also if i were his parents id be so upset that he was rarely referred to as an officer in the trial of his murder. The whole thing stinks.

[@sarahdee434]

@@kellieyang77 the brother paralyzed a man while intoxicated. Karen paid his bail.

[@previously4821]

Speaking of proctor's seeming lack of remorse, it isn't just the lack of remorse but his testimony makes it appear like he texts about ongoing cases all the time to the point it has "no" impact on his investigation.

[@milujoTV]

Right? The way he was texting his high-school-buddies was too casual. As if he wrote about this stuff all the time. He almost wrote like he was talking about the weather. "Yeah, there is a dead cop on a cops front yard, the girl is f*cked", like wtf dude? If a friend would write that to me I'd freak out and ask if he's even allowed to talk with friends about an ongoing investigation. But his buddies were just like "woah, cool stuff, bro" I hope the discovery brings up closure or more context to the investigation.

[@carlynotwitter7728]

Loving the hair, Emily!! 💜

[@fieryred518]

I think many people who are invested in this trial are angry at the O'K family because of their refusal to accept, or even entertain, that something outside of Karen Read hitting him with her car is possible. Most logical people can see she is innocent and the fact that they refuse to open their minds, especially after all the evidence to the contrary, is breading contempt for them. Just my opinion as a Mass. resident. And I thought most of the 20/20 program did more harm than good. If people that know nothing about the case were watching, this is not going to educate them with so much missing information 😕

[@jfk32975]

E1 is entitled to their own opinions. Yes proctor is an arse. But to blatantly blame the OKeefe family for feeling like they do you have no clue what’s it’s like to lose a loved one

[@hollid90]

I also have a hard time feeling remorse for the family, I have to keep telling myself that they lost a family member. People don't always think the best when they are grieving. It does upset me that they are going after her civilly without the conviction. (I know they can, even if she was aquited. I just think it's in bad taste, especially with everything going on in the case.)

[@Blaise45]

@jfk32975 - grief is not an excuse for falsely acusing Karen and suing her. The OKeefe family is doing nasty things to Karen, and they deserve all the contempt that people have for them.

[@technigeneric]

John fought his parents for the kids due to the wishes of his sister and his brother actually paralyzed someone and spent money raised for the kids on his own home. You clearly know little about the O'Keefes.

[@waitaminute2015]

​@@jfk32975lots of people know what it's like. There's stages of grief and blame is one of them. The problem is they haven't moved past that, and we have to wonder why. Could it be the people surrounding them, who have a lot to lose, and are currently being investigated, benefit the most from keeping this family stuck? It's so blatant it's sad.

[@MadeOfQuestions]

0:36 i... I have a lot of thoughts on Trooper Proctors' work cell phone, too... how you gonna respond "...We dont know what implications this will have in other cases..." ??? No shit we don't! THAT'S WHY THE FULL WORK CELL SHOULD BE RELEASED, at minimum, to the defense attorneys that got Bradey notices... like... DUH!

[@angelipie2592]

I don't put much weight on how long someone said they were waiting for something... when waiting, 1 minute feels like forever. "I was waiting there for like 10 minutes" to me just means, it felt like waiting for a long time.

[@MsAtown10]

Emily that entire office is corrupt and it's nothing new 😤 They have been getting away with it for decades👌😵‍💫 I hate it here in Massachusetts born and raised 🤬

[@mollycote1021]

Now that the whole world has seen the corruption, maybe the Feds will do something about it‼️

[@cathygangstad6600]

So glad to be with the Lawnerds this morning 🎉

[@LisaLouise-k2n]

I fear this is only the tip of the iceberg here in Massachusetts .. Karen Read’s dilemma is but a piece of a much, much larger puzzle involving public corruption, imho.. 😞

[@SirFigsAlot]

It absolutely goes deeper but we most likely won't see it, unfortunately. It'll be swept under the rug and stood on top of so it never sees the light of day

[@elisavelarde4410]

I watched the documentary "How to Fix a Drug Scandal" and sadly, I suspect you're right. SAD! These are the people who are supposed to protect the public. The cover up, withholding of evidence and the outright LYING is just apalling in the Karen Read case. I can't believe the case wasn't dismissed on this alone.

[@LisaLouise-k2n]

@@SirFigsAlot I disagree, I can’t see the Feds utilizing all these resources and manpower and money and not making proper arrests .. the NCDA has been at it for decades, so it’ll take a while to cross all t’s & dot all i’s, imo..

[@LisaLouise-k2n]

@@elisavelarde4410 I not only watched it, as a resident, I lived through it. This scandal will make that look like nothing though. It’s going to be the biggest public corruption case in the history of MA if not the entire US imo.

[@elisavelarde4410]

@@LisaLouise-k2n OMGGG. I hope you're wrong, but probably not. We can say we saw your post first

[@vawlkus]

Anyone remember Kari Morrisey in New Mexico? How bad can it go when a DA tries to decide what is and isn't evidence? I am still wondering why this case hasn't been thrown out yet, given the security video from Karen's house when her car was impounded shows an almost intact tail light (in line with the "reconstructed" taillight) and NOT anything like what the criminals in the Canton Police department claim her car's taillight looked like when it arrived in their possession. That plastic was planted, and this case is a farce of a frame job to allow the actual murderers in the house to get away scott free.

[@VTPSTTU]

Thanks for the video. Proctor comes across as both stupid and corrupt. He bungled the O'Keefe case because he wanted to pick a victim and railroad her into a conviction. The problem is that even if he wanted to do an honest investigation, he doesn't seem intelligent enough to do the investigation properly. He needs to find another line of work.

[@CameronL-l5k]

I watched every single minute of the trial (that was televised at least) it was weirdly fascinating - like watching a train smash in slow motion. I don't see how they could go for round two. I don't actually see how the jury ended up hung, that is also unfathomable to me. Im not american, I dont have a pony in this race, just the tainted evidence and weird missing texts and testimony of witnesses for me was enough for reasonable doubt, and also the expert testimonies that for me was the deciding factor that made it so clear that there was at minimum reasonable doubt. Weird to see this coming to a retrial and how they even re-do this horror show...Im not sure I can watch it all again if its the same testimonies, although it might be interesting to see which stories change yet again or new details get added.

[@kathrynkrieger7644]

It’s real simple. The truth is likely that John immediately got out of the car, went inside, and she waited outside for about 10 minutes - moved up once- then left and was home by 12:30 at which time, John was incapacitated!

[@carlabannink1460]

John's mother said to Kerry on route to the hospital when she had some info of what happened: "And she (karen) just left him there...." So John's mother blamed Karen from the get go! From Holland 🇳🇱

[@mjaboston-gn3tu]

@@carlabannink1460 cryin out loud. Karen dropped him off at so-called friends house! He’s a grown boy. She didn’t need to babysit!

[@serenetiv]

I still don't know how someone "misses" 32k messages and think it wouldn't come out... But that's probably all part of the corruption/club going on..

[@johnb.stewart4046]

34,000 but who's counting

[@francescawilliams8177]

It’s like checking emails but leaving the spam and deleted part, I am so glad it is impossible to wipe a phone clean and not get caught

[@mtnmama6318]

Good Day everyone!

[@anniesenol9858]

I love LUME! Nothing else has worked so well for me.

[@brynb245]

I still don't understand why he had so much hate for her after just a few hours of "investigating". The vitriol made no sense. Also hard agree, he was not sorry AT ALL, he said what he was told to say to try and make it go away.

[@Boscoronibelieves]

Love this channel and appreciate and trust Emily’s opinion on these cases! Thank you Emily!! 😊

[@BarbaraBray-im5db]

Hi all!

[@karenbarber3141]

Actually, Karen Read stated that she didnt remeber being invited over to the house by anyone at the bar. When John got out of the car, Karen stated that John was going inside to make sure that they were both invited over and she would wait for him to text her that she was invited too. That's why she was so upset at John that night afterward. He went in, and she waited outside, and she didn't hear from him again. She seemed to believe that he blew her off, thus the 40-whatever phone calls.

[@nelsona8285]

She WAITED for him? Her cell phone connected to John's home wife only minutes after John's cell phone GPS stopped updating locations. The cellphone NEVER even got to the front steps of the house.

[@mlove.1376]

Please no more of "what if anything" Elaine!! I also agree with the distancing and some protection for the information. "Send Lawyers, Guns (well maybe not guns) and money.....the sh_t has hit the fan. For all those who watched the KR trial and just felt like something was majorly off.

[@chrislanciani1165]

😂😂😂❤

[@mariee.5912]

😂😂 she traumatized you, and Lally triggered it. Elaine.

[@neraknawoc7709]

I really wish you’d cover the pre trial motions for this case Emily. Would love your take on it all

[@aoleary5213]

I don’t think they knew it was John’s family when they got booed going into court. Once Aiden said it was John’s parents everyone stopped.

[@sueallen8188]

Yes & he has it on video

[@technigeneric]

They didn't boo the family. The family was with complicit individuals who got booed but it all stopped for the O'keefes. They're just making up sensationalist nonsense for tv to distract from the trashy behavior of the family.

[@Tedlouie]

Emily has become surprisingly wrong on a lot of things lately… like she’s disconnected.

[@ninarasmussen2399]

@@Tedlouieit’s funny because I think the same thing! I don’t like how she refuses to do her deep dive to see how this case and Aiden’s case are a HUGE MISCARRIAGE OF JUSTICE!

[@melindapye7435]

Who did they think they were? KR supporters know all of the players, don't they? And these are elderly people so, clearly not law enforcement or the CW. I am not deep diving into the internet crap personally because there is so much vitriol and pure speculation. It's super toxic. And EDB's focus is always "facts, not fuckery."

[@MsAtown10]

That was all lies nobody ever screamed at his family 🙄 It was in fact the other way around.

[@pineywoodslawandcrime]

His girlfriend from 20 years ago (bunny boiler, IMHO) was yelling F off over and over to the FKR people.

[@lboutard]

Emily let me first say I love you and am a long time sub. I want to say why I feel the family has been getting the hate from regular people. I hear you saying the family has the right to want to know what happened but this is not how the family acted. They believe despite the evidence that Karen is guilty. The brother said they know she is guilty from her one time action when she came to her ex house to get her things. All of this evidence all the hiding and lying means nothing because he’d behavior when picking up her stuff proves beyond a doubt for them that she is guilty. They refuse refuse to believe anything else happened. The pure evidence of O’Keefe not being hit by a car just blows peoples mind and because of that blindness they don’t get a pass. If they really wanted the truth they would demand answers from all parties. But because of not daring to cross the Blue line they will only believe what the police say. People are tired of being killed and arrested by bad cops. There is a cover up and like Proctor said the police looked at Karen as guilty from day 1. Even O’Keefe’s mom who I’m sure is so lovely refuses to look in any other direction but Karen’s. Sad

[@wmdkitty]

Yes. THIS. People are upset at the family's behavior.

[@mariegledhill7487]

Wonder if the O’Keefe family , have ever wondered, after listening to Jens call to the Emergency services , she isn’t fraught, she describes John as a guy, is this John, her friend whom she loved. !!! and she never says, he is on my sisters lawn. . If she was unaware of John and innocent, In my opinion, her demeanour should have been distraught saying , my friend John is laying injured on my sisters lawn. In a frantic tone.

[@46L482]

In Massachusetts, judges must rotate court cases. The defense can request a higher court to have this judge be removed. The defense has not done this. The defense is making a lot of mistakes.

[@keithb7283]

Let’s get some love for the band kids and band Parents!! We have 2 band kids. My daughter was DrumMajor last year as a Jr. We were so proud! She gave up DM this year because she missed marching. BandTober in Texas is only a few weeks away. I’m ready to put on a master class in shoe shinning!! When the team is not that good band is always great! Let’s go CHS Band!

[@veronicavatter6436]

Band kids are the best! I have four and I love marching band season! We have bandfest today and I'm so excited to see them perform.

[@afrodeity1576]

In the previous 20/20 interview Karen Read had said that she wasn't sure if the invitation was extended to her so she was waiting for John to send her a message as to whether she was invited or not.

[@CharlieLynne-143]

Even if the hire an outside party they need the actual phone so they can do the extraction because we can't trust Guarino to do it!!

[@jlkitz1775]

Mass and so many other departments need outside investigations & overhauls! I feel for the O'Keefe family, but MY GOSH! HOW do they not see the cover-up?! 😳🤨🤦🏾‍♀️😡

[@gothgammy666]

Because they are a cop family

[@nedludd3641]

I've heard it said that the 20/20 footage was possibly done before the verdict. That maybe everyone was expecting an acquittal then it (ineffable horror) became a retrial? So they were then sorta forced into making a duckbilled platypus documentary which avoided anything actionable which might jeopardise the retrial? Surely they can't have the Keystone Kops back in the witness box for the return match?

[@TracyJuliano-xt5je]

The sit down interview was done about a year before the trial. The one that she’s in a hotel with the suit jacket on was done right before the trial started.

[@jessieroos128]

Paul O’Keefe stated in his interview that his Mom did immediately think Karen did it. Karen’s feeling that John’s Mom was blaming her was correct.

[@maud9460]

they are greedy , only want money

[@carynmaher5406]

Wouldn't it be something if Proctor's location data showed he was at Brian Albert's yard after he played with KR's taillight and before they let the search team begin the search. I watched a YTshow last night on the Brady violations/ motions for evidence. His phone might explain why the defense did not get the evidence they were entitled to receive from him.

[@celticmoon111]

Remembering all the life's lost and first responders today.

[@treeze_it7800]

Thank you for reading the docs. ❤And for explaining what procedures you followed when you were in the DAs office.

[@AnnC19]

I mean are we really gonna trust the state police extraction of the phone when they missed 34k in the Birchmore case

[@anonymousowl72]

What if any credibility does Proctor or the DA’s office have if there is not only poor investigative protocols followed by Proctor but perhaps selective investigative quality depending on each individual case he and the DA’s team deemed worthy of a proper investigation? What if any credibility does Lally or the DA’s office have if his What if any terminology turns out to be an identifying feature of anything legal he’s had his hands on? or if this homogenized terminology identifies DA Morrisey’s employees and signals the possibility of ineptness and/or corruption and/or an inability to discern between actual evidence and conformation bias connected to any case that may have come into their office?

[@JIRH922]

Not to disregard the very important things that you are discussing here today, but your hair is on point Emily. And I just ordered one of your mugs that says “bring the Emily“ for my sister for her birthday because her name is Emily and she also loves you. Thank you for this and for always explaining to us laymen WTF is going on

[@pineywoodslawandcrime]

You’re the best!! Thank you for covering this. ❣️

[@DeeFlannery]

They were booing the police & the one guy walking w/fam but the DIDN'T SHOW Kearney reminding everyone that they were to BE RESPECTFUL to the fam

[@GuiltyBystander58]

The text messages are a reflection of his investigation.

[@lynylcullen8370]

Thank you for your perspective! Exactly what I knew you would bring me up to date!

[@abeerali7834]

Lally: “What If any” and “Sort of”. Caused me headaches and nausea. I really don’t want to go back to those days. Can’t imagine what KR must be feeling.

[@abeerali7834]

I couldn’t watch the 20/20 from my country. Thank you for mentioning that it was clips from the 2023 interview which I have already watched. And a huge thank you for breaking it into bits and explaining everything ❤ now I don’t have to dig that up😊

[@hope7144]

The fact that the Karen Read trial is still happening with all the Canton Corruption is BS !!! Infuriating !!! And I love your natural wavy hair !

[@smittycat359]

Work phones are subject to discovery. I purposely was given a work phone to communicate with my staff for that very reason and to prevent my personal phone from being subject to searches.

[@Daisy-Girl0021]

Thank you Mrs EDB for covering sweetheart... by the way I love Lume LOL it is the best thing ever invented

[@Shangori]

I wouldn't trust not just the DA office, but also not anyone they push forward. Unless it's someone vetted by the defense, I cannot trust them either

[@carynmaher5406]

So I think we know now why McCabe sent the young person outside to tell her brother not to come inside. KR was sitting alone in the car waiting for JO at that time. He was already down.

[@AnnC19]

Good point. Didn’t even think about this..

[@cindiwindi]

Yaaay thank you Emily

[@frendleek]

And a very, very important point is that everyone saying Karen Reed was mad while she was not mad when she dropped John off she got mad after she thought she was ignoring her text not before she dropped him off

[@rebeccaglasgow1324]

She said in the full interview that she wanted John to make sure they were welcome at the house

[@pamgallagher9778]

Good to know the date of KR interview on the 20/20. It makes more sense now.

[@frendleek]

I hope they get to put out all of the information from his cell phone. Everything should be transparent specially considering what is going on with the corruption we’re tired of them trying to cover up shit.

[@thescrappay]

I was so confused by the woman that dated John in 2001 being interviewed as if they were a recent couple? Wearing his badge # on a necklace. Sure, they had a long friendship but I don't understand her being interviewed at all. Made me suspicious of her, lol! 😂😅

[@MsChari40]

Love the waves😍

[@dikshaedythe6042]

Congratulations for your progress and success, EDB!!

[@carynmaher5406]

I would love to hear you cover the KR pre trial motions someday.

[@vinnycardoso8063]

Miss Baker, You have the best video camera of all the podcasters. Can you say 4K 👏❤️

[@privateeye2490]

woot woot EDB back in my morning routine!

[@judyjaspers1313]

Love the quick bits.

[@TrulyToriYouTube]

Off-topic, but I love how you have your lights in this video, EDB. The pink & purple are adorbs.

[@BostonHelen]

The family wasn’t boo’d. They were booing Karl Dugal that assaulted Karen. Stretching the truth once again.

[@MollyZelko2.0]

Yep I love Emily but she’s missing a lot of things about this story. I guess she doesn’t want to do a deep dive.

[@KerryBartlett-x1p]

Love ❤ your knowledge and perspective!

[@randamgrrl]

Proctor's canned response to those texts reminded me of Alex Murdaugh discussing the financial crimes during his testimony.

[@AliceBowie]

Massachusetts is the state version of a house completely infested with toxic black mold. There's no way to save it at this point. Even if you demolish the house and build a new one, anything you build will get mold because the air is full of spores.

[@XenaWarrior95]

Missed the live notification. I get the notifications a half hour before she is going live but not when she actually goes live

[@SamanthaLeigh7]

I think this is my first time ever seeing your intro... Love it! Especially the "big fan of the cursey words" because, ME TOO! 🤣🤬

[@jillmissig9670]

Thank you Emily 💜💜💜

[@rachellecronephotography9898]

Thanks Emily. FYI your hair looks amazing!

[@coffee8599]

THANK YOU. I have seen many gross comments on this channel and others trashing his family. Just stop. Everyone needs to direct this frustration where it belongs - the garbage investigation.

[@wmdkitty]

The family's atrocious behavior is 100% relevant, and shows the character of the people trying to get Ms. Read convicted.

[@dianecharest8365]

Thank you Emily

[@darkbeach72]

I fully understand her not wanting to be at home. Law enforcement raiding your home feels like a rape. You can't feel safe at home anymore. Every knock on the door is a traumatic experience and I still flinch.

[@heidikickhouse-]

Emily cheered and complimented the DA's office for saying they were "considering" hiring outside evaluators. What?!? Why? The District Attorney %should have no involvement with the outside firm evaluating Proctor's work phone data, including paying them. Or there should be two outside evaluators, one selected and paid for by the defense as well. It has been shown in studies over and over and over that Expert Witnesses who honestly believe themselves to be neutral are in fact thoroughly biased by who is paying them.

[@OhAshley83]

One of the biggest jury concerns that I can see going either way is potential jurors that either hate or love KR ,and not being honest to get in the jury pool. Just so they can get their lick in per say

[@melindapye7435]

The biggest glaring differences in her interview and the defense theory and witness testimony we saw in court, was that she said she remembered dropping him off and saw him go inside. Witnesses said she didn't remember driving him there the next morning. And her own attorneys didn't challenge those withesses on Karen's statements that she left him at the Waterfall. And only wanted to go look for him at the Albert's when Jen told her they saw them out front yhe nught before. Huge red flag there.