THE KEY to YOUR Permaculture Orchard or Fruit Planting is...

THE KEY to YOUR Permaculture Orchard or Fruit Planting is... "JUST START". In this weeks video we show you how to start in the easiest way with just two trios of trees and the number of associated plants. How quickly you can multiply your planting. Go 10X every 2 years.
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[@drewblack749]

Binge watching your videos. “Don’t weed without planting.” You have such memorable maxims. Thank-you.

[@dianepierson7266]

Love this video because we’re just getting started with a 10 acre home place in Central Missouri. Yesterday I bought 7 fruit trees and some berry bushes and was wondering about how to plant them to begin our permaculture. This video was perfect!! Thank you!!

[@valley3621]

For a beginner, I think your video in conjunction with Gaia's Garden are a great combo to get started. I"m on year two and I did a lot of planting based on your system. I'm a little looser with it as I'm not inviting the public onto my land. It's amazing to see the difference in the growth rate between trees/shrubs that are in a really biodiverse cluster and those out on there own. I have some Locusts that put on 4 ft this year and some that put on maybe a foot. The trees with less growth are on their own in a grass pasture. Thanks for the great videos.

[@jenniferatkinsreptileart]

I'm starting to see my honey locust as much more valuable plants. And thank you for the grape vine and kiwi tip! Love your channel.

[@d.w.stratton4078]

I'm for sure doing this. We are prepping sites this late summer and fall, then planting next spring. We don't have a well hook up at it land yet so can't water anything over there as it gets started yet this year. Patience, permie friends.

[@patriotteacher7254]

One of my new favorites is the "weed" mallow. The seeds are great simmered in sesame oil with salt and cumin. I feel a bit odd sharing information here! Will watch this over and over!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Wow never thought of using the seeds. Thanks

[@shanemillard608]

Thanks Stefan. I don't know if I'll ever meet you in person, but you have been a huge inspiration for me. I bought your DVD years ago and have watched it multiple times. My son calls it "the apple movie" and loves it too. I've got pretty crazy in the area of about an acre I can work. Maybe eventually I'll have a bigger planting like you have. But it's been a great ride. Thank you!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Glad the "Apple Movie" helped. Most areas don't need even 1 acre to experience absolute abundance throughout the seasons. Glad you're on the ride, keep it up.

[@Skashoon]

I finally found Goumi seeds on Etsy! Caragana, Silverberry, Black Locust, Buffaloberry, as well as others. All the Sea Buckthorn is the thorny variety, but I found a place for the thornless variety, just sold out at this time. Also, some guy tried to tell me that Eastern Redbud is not a nitrogen fixer. I told him to go check the research.

[@Soilfoodwebwarrior]

Love the channel, going to start my food forest orchard just like that. Thanks for sharing your knowledge

[@harryweyer2174]

G’day Stefan I’ve watched your vids before but as soon as you mentioned Bill Mollison I clicked that subscribe button because I know now for sure your genuine,take care.

[@elfqueen3224]

Love your Channal i learn somthing new with every video and thats what i am all about i dont have a degree in bio but i love the planet and have been learning about it since i was 3

[@maMillamusic]

My mother did it before me and I loved it although I could explain what I loved so much and why in her garden.. Now I understand, thanks to you and it is as inspiring as nature and brain friendly!!! Regards from Belarus!

[@hansb5107]

Thank you. This is immensely inspiring. Will look up those resources and get going in the field. We'll need to adapt to a colder climate, but surely we can follow the main principles.

[@DavidEgesdal]

I'm going to start this year.

[@gardenerinthesand]

Stefan, thank you for all the great information you share. We have a small farm in France where we do not currently live, making it so difficult to do anything. I was so inspired when I first came across your video and now your KZbin videos. However, every time we go, we plant something or improve the soil. I want to do it all right, but I know trying and doing it is the key.

[@terry5274]

Thank you, super inspirational

[@myhillsidegarden3998]

Very enjoyable video. Thank you for explaining how to start small.

[@gardeningingatineau]

Rules are made to be broken. Love that. Definitely helps me worry less about trying things!

[@tammymcneill3359]

I just planted a goomi and aronia in my orchard this year. Just to see how they grow. If they do good I will add more. I also have Egyptian onion going crazy in my orchard. I saw an earlier episode about chives and was able to get a dozen full grown plants to also add to my orchard (food forest )and divided them into many plant starts. Thanks for the encouragement.

[@olekluften9776]

Thank you sir you really help me out how to calculate my food forest with this video.

[@kroegermarkus1170]

beautiful Sylphiums in Stefan´s back :)

[@allouttabubblegum1984]

It's nice to essentially see this planting guild more simplified, and compact, in a row formation.

[@strenuousbobbykushner]

Love your channel 🙏🏾☺️

[@user4earthlings]

Your grandson seems always have fun editing videos, adding morphing effects, decorated poop (lol), petty sound effects, etc.

[@ZaneMedia]

Sowmya K this actually made my day haha he’s actually my father but grandfather makes me feel young so thank you :) Also it’s always great to hear positive feedback im glad you enjoy the videos :D

[@bashierrashid]

I like it when you add graphics or change the tone of his voice. Cutting to a whole other clip, not so much. Keep up the good work!

[@ZaneMedia]

bashierrashid awesome thanks for the feedback! I’ve got a bunch of transition ideas that I haven’t seen any you tubers use “stay tuned” ;)

[@bartsus1325]

Hi guys. Any chance For polish subtitles ?

[@ZaneMedia]

Bart Sus unfortunately my fathers writing skills are not up to par and mine are even worse sorry

[@paxtianodirtfrog8947]

Hey, been watching your channel for a while but just got my own computer and email so I could finally subscribe. I love the content, please keep it coming. I have plans of creating a quarter acre orchard when I return to my property sometime in the future, incorporating some of your ideas along with many other ideas from the regenerative agriculture scene.

[@salemorganicranch]

I bought 5 acres and built my starter home. I planted a few fruit trees like it were a joke. After watching this video (and the air layering one) its like I've discovered a cure to world hunger or something! I'm stoked to get started on my trios and start scaling up over time and thank you for the information and inspiration!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Fantastic, glad it helped get you stoked.

[@laurieburpee4362]

Ty for sll of your videos. I enjoy your sweet spirit and encouragement to "just get started" so I did!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Fantastic

[@Prep4SurvivingMe]

love your movie, thanks

Aronia melonacarpa, super berry with highest antioxidant.

[@tankgirl1903]

you are so amazing,thank you so much.

[@ClickinChicken]

yep, dad and i did this! lots of shade, in woods, trees crowding out. we made holes best we could! apple/ crab apple, cherry zone 3. covered well over winter. then dad passed away on me.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Brian as sad as it is every time you will look at that area you can remember him.

[@wiezyczkowata]

thanks for that video, I was overthinking all that planning and thanks to you I decided to just go for it and then if something doesn't work - replant somewhere else

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Fantastic I love when you have an attitude of go for it. Overthinking is another form of procrastination. Wonderful.

[@wildrangeringreen]

the expanding every couple years part is great advice. I planted 60 raspberry canes 5 years ago, and left them to spread/get thick; and this year, to thin them out and gain access to the rows to pick and prune, I've quadrupled my area of raspberries, and now all of the brambles are doing better, and I expect to double it again next year. As far as fruit trees are concerned, once you have a variety, you have a renewable and ever-expanding source of grafting material for the future, and the trees themselves produce the seed for you to grow rootstocks (and you can buy a small planting of something like B9 and cut inter-stem material from that if you want improved precocity/ size control). Black Locust sometimes will send up root suckers, and you can transplant them to a new area for trellis and fence posts (and if one of them dies, cut it and it's still good as a fence post for 20+ years). You just have to be willing to let things grow, with a little guidance through your management. We disallowed the city to continue mowing our creekbank (combination of a deer fence/signs/registering as a specialty cropping area/verbally telling the operators... and then rebar pins when they continued trying to squeeze past it to mow something that wasn't theirs to mow (by law or deed)) and now I have 20 walnut trees growing along it (I need to move the smaller ones, they're too crowded to do well).

[@StefanSobkowiak]

You get it

[@opreapetru404]

The Holy Trinity = holy trio bravissimo segnior Stefano

[@ryankahlor3563]

Thank you

[@patriotteacher7254]

I think you should have a squillion subscribers:) I listen to your vids multiple times and share them too...tx!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Thank you.

[@cheerfulmouse]

Very nice 👍

[@terranceborer7614]

Such a good looking man!

[@richfahrne9195]

I've read the honey locust seeds and pods are edible and the tree has medicinal parts. Also it said that the pods are good animal feed. I just planted my baby that I grew from seed into my hugelkultur berm. Thanks for the advice and the inspiration. My first trio is in! Apple, honey locust, peach!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Fantastic. Great job getting started. Wooop wooop.

[@arthurdewith7608]

I lost much of my Macintosh Apple crop in the last two years leaf minor got out of hand and the fruit dropped before harvest now what to do

[@lechampdespossibles558]

Challenge accepted ! You are invited in 6 years to see my 6000 trees :)

[@ZaneMedia]

RocknRollLover we can’t wait!

[@HarrisonCountyStudio]

Four years to go.... how is it going with your trees?

[@MartinaSchoppe]

@@HarrisonCountyStudio ha! Was about to post the same question :D

[@andrewl8524]

For myself, I live 30 mins from Stephan on US side. So far we are about 1100 trees in with about 150 different cultivars (fruit, nut, berry) of about 100 different species of trees of about 60 genus in 5 years. Planted a special seedling black walnut orchard on 1-acre, and about 3 other acres is the rest of varied species. Love these videos and they all apply, being just on the other side of the St. Lawrence River from him.

[@MrToad-actual]

1 year to go!🕰️

[@ljacree5764]

I love your videos! Question - I live in ARID Redding CA. Planted 8 new fruit trees last Fall. Gave each tree a couple of companions: yarrow, comfrey, garlic, (poke for the fig)..... I surface water them all every day. Problem: When I try to do a deep water the leaves turn yellow. What's the best way to keep all the plants happy?

[@atlanticacresfarm]

Thank you so much for all your wisdom I love your videos so much. I have a question in regards to your trees and plants. Is there a company that you order from that would be able to supply regular homesteaders in the Ontario region?

[@Oceanhawktv]

Thank you once again for the fantastic information. Great video.

[@d.w.stratton4078]

Hahaah, that cut over to a Kurzgesagt video made me crack up. Used to live Kurzgesagt, though of late they are really pushing nuclear energy like sweaty nerds.

[@marvinmartens1195]

Great video! though mathematically, you are underselling the yield; you should add the previous amount of plants to the 10x before multiplying it again unless you don't use them as donor ; growing from 6 to 66 -> 726 ->7986 -> 87846 :)

[@szymonpieckowski2825]

Hi Stefan! You have Polish roots? :) Great video!

[@ZaneMedia]

Szymon Pieckowski yes we are polish and thanks for the positive feedback 👍

[@gardeningingatineau]

Oh wow. Kiwi in Canada!?!

[@user-wl6ge9gu9v]

I can't believe my comfrey looks better than yours! I'm still waiting for the fruit to catch up... I may have had eyes bigger than my stomach with- but I'm glad I started!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Olin the fact that you started then you are more than halfway done.

[@resilientfarmsanddesignstu1702]

We grow hardy kiwi and many other vine crops like passion fruit on our thornless honey locust. It works great! But as as I said in an earlier post, I do just the opposite for my fruit trees. I throw a mineral rich rock mulch around the base of my fruit trees to discourage weeds that serve as a trellis for vine growth (mainly morning glory, and other pesky vines) on my fruit trees which can create a real mess real quick. I have only low grow cover type plants around the base of the fruit trees. Any taller companion plants are at the drip line.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Fantastic, great strategies. Do you have video or photos of your rock mulch?

[@resilientfarmsanddesignstu1702]

@@StefanSobkowiak Thanks Stefan for replying. We are currently in the process of moving and I am fixing our house in preparation to sell it. I plan to have my daughter work with me create a nifty KZbin channel where I can post a lot of this stuff. We have lots of photos and videos that I took of permaculture, passive home and natural building “builds” that I’ve done over the years. Unfortunately, that’s not up and running and the photos are on the computer not on this notebook. I can however tell you what I do as you and your viewers might find that interesting. I look at geological and soil surveys of my area, find out what minerals are in the rocks and where the outcrops are. I also know what minerals my soil is lacking from soil tests. So when I go hiking, I just grab some rocks from the outcrops that have the minerals I need and put them in my backpack. Then I come home after hiking around with a bunch of heavy rocks in my pack and when I feel motivated and need some more exercise, I bust them up with a sledge hammer. Sometimes, I find some nice fossils or even gems that way. Periodically I throw some of this rock chips and dust around my trees. I also use it for paths in my garden. The interesting ones, I throw in the beds near the house as is for decorations, to create microclimates and collect heat to prevent frost (especially around my figs) and to provide habitat for beneficial animals, spiders and insects. While hiking, I also collect ground mushroom logs and soil from the forest floor and add them to the orchard where I add my bark chips and sawdust. So basically, I’m supplying the fungi with minerals and the fungi are trading these minerals for sugar with my trees. Then my trees are using the minerals to create nutrient dense fruit that my family and my animals eat and that we provide to others. My orchard soils are white and riddled with mycelium. I also collect clay to make natural plasters. I live in the middle of a National forest so these hiking excursions are a weekly event. I’m in my 60s. I can still trail run. I don’t have to go to the gym to stay fit. All I have to do is garden.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Wonderful, you are on the right track with adding the rock dust. Sounds like you have material for a while to go. It's so helpful to document the progress as it can contain clues to why things worked so well.

[@resilientfarmsanddesignstu1702]

@@StefanSobkowiak I agree. The most important thing is to pass on what we know to the youth. That’s my mission now. I think that the only reason that the rock chips work well close to the trunk is that they are shaded by the surrounding shrubs and planted with low shade tolerate ground covers. I use organic mulch, leaves, sticks and wood/bark chips further away from the trunk. I don’t use hardly any synthetics or plastics on my homestead any more.

[@livefromplanetearth]

+100 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

[@jimo780]

Hey Stefan. I love All your videos. Question: Where do you source your plastic mulch? My farmstead is near Warkworth, Ontario, so I think my conditions are similar to yours. And I need to keep down weeds and conserve moisture.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

You may need to special order but any company that sells plasticulture supplies should carry it. You can check out one in our area: www.duboisag.com/en/mulch-film-plasticulture.html

[@jimo780]

Stefan Sobkowiak Thanks for the prompt reply. I’ll check that out and see if I have a more local supplier. Cheers!

[@lxportugal9343]

1:25 This is happening to me... and nowadays there are excess of information, it's too much and probably a lot is not applicable to my whether. (just recently I found out Canada is considerate as a Temperate Clime :):):):):):) never imagine) It's like we are afraid of making mistakes and want to know all before starting

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Just start. Get comfortable with mistakes.

[@lxportugal9343]

@@StefanSobkowiak Thank you

[@timvaughan5909]

How large of a tree do you recommend, and associated shrub size to start with? Also, would you include the plastic mulch for the first pair of trios planted? Thanks,

[@StefanSobkowiak]

No I don’t recommend considering a plastic mulch under 200 trees. Size of tree depends mostly on rootstock. Dwarf if fine for apple if it’s hardy to your area. Shrub size to 4 feet under the fruit trees.

[@studiomaple3375]

Hey Stephan, my husband and I love watching your videos. We are located in MO. I was wondering if your apple trees are dwarf/semidwarf size? We are planning to plant three semidwarf apple trees and make a permaculture in your NAP style. Our leguminous plants will be redbud, which we can get from our conservation department, and false indigo also from the conservation department. How much space should we give between the apple trees (semidwarf) and the redbud? Thanks!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

When I doubt space them out. Lookup the mature diameter of that cultivar of apple on that rootstock and redbud in your soil type. A little sleuthing is needed. Your nursery or nearby growers or extension should help. I use dwarf and some semi dwarf for our apples. Soil type can have a noticeable difference on mature tree size.

[@indigovoyager8757]

Have you heard of red clover for ground cover fixing nitrogen in the top soil? I heard it works well but I haven't personally tried it, what do you think?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

We have most of the N fixing perennials in the aisles and they each do a part however N fixing trees can also bring a large contribution. Now if only we can get some scientific validation and measurements of the contribution of each and the synergy of the biodiversity working together.

[@misctimetraveler]

wish I had the money to buy all these trees and plants

[@StefanSobkowiak]

I didn’t buy the vast majority of them I propagated them.

[@q695]

What zone are you considered, because I'm looking to diversify my diet in the MN food desert with fruit trees/shrubs over the edge of a flood plane keeping the fruit trees short enough to pick without a ladder (Back to Eden)?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

USDA Zone 4

[@lmiller1528]

Thank you. I never wanted to farm until I discovered your approach. Part of our farm has been taken over by invasive autumn olives. Is it best to get rid of those? Or keep them as nitrogen fixers?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Hey if they grow like weeds already why fight them, you probably wont find a nitrogen fixer that does as well. I’m not sure about how effective they are, some N fixers fix more than others. I would however chop them down every two years so they dont go to seed and keep spreading. It will keep them in a smaller space as well that way.

[@lmiller1528]

@@StefanSobkowiak Thanks for your advice. We are excited to plant the 6 trees, 12 shrubs and 60 perennials. It's so helpful that you provided this manageable starting point. I will investigate the autumn olives.

[@jamesalanstephensmith7930]

The purpose of the cup plant?

[@flatsville1]

Ten feet between trees in a row seems tight. I assume the majority of apples are on drawf root stock, but many N fixers are growing to full size. Would you use the same tree to tree in a row spacing of 10 feet again? What is the distance tree to tree between rows?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes apples on dwarf rootstock. Nitrogen fixers pruned heavily. 12’ between rows. We use 8’, 10’ and 21’ depending on the roots and soil quality. Usually farther apart because most soil is better than our sand.

[@madoki4504]

:( quel dommage que les sous titres ne soient pas en français. mais continuez j'arriverai bien par trouver une solution pour tout comprendre ;)

[@seanbailey8545]

Would you recommend putting the 2 trios in one line, or 2 lines of 3?.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Depends on what the shape of the area. I would put all in 1 row as it would give you more incentive to add a second row of 6 in the future. If that’s a possibility then plant your first row to the North of future rows (or to the shaded side of future trees). This will prevent the first row from shading future rows.

[@d.w.stratton4078]

"Goooumi! Where are you?????"

[@Big-Government-Is-The-Problem]

what is the best nitrogen fixing tree that produces a good edible nut or fruit for hardiness zone 6? whats the best one for your area?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Seaberry (or sea buchthorn) especially the thornless cultivars from the Ukraine.

[@yulianwang7482]

What is the distance between two fruit trees? What is the distance between nitrigen fixing tree and fruit trees?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

I will do a video on distance this season. Much confusion on the subject.

[@Skashoon]

What is the purpose for the cup plant? I just ordered seeds for them to go in my trios.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Seeds for the birds, flowers.

[@benschharmin7892]

The Film 'The Permaculture Orchard: Beyond Organic', has it translations? Maybe german, some words are important to understand and my english is good but not good enough for technicals terms of gardening

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes when you get the English version it comes with 11 different subtitle translations including German

[@leotupchik3773]

By planting shrubs near trees is it going to help trees to grow?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Much better than grass.

[@lindakurtz2653]

Just wondering what the orientation of your trees are? Seems like your locusts would shade out the others if the orientation is wrong?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

They can and they need pruning.

[@CITYBORNDESERTBRED]

Hello from the US Stefan, you mentioned Russian Olive as a nitrogen fixer.. in my area it’s been deemed invasive (woohoo!) Could one make use of mature Russian olives in the same trio fashion? Many thanks 🙏🏾

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes. I always recommend grow what grows like weeds. Nothing easier than easy.

[@Clbr153]

Hi Stéphane, if I have like 8 or 9 meters in between my trees, I guess I just increase the number of shrubs ? How far do u plant shrubs from each other ?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

1 meter for most, more even 2m if they are large shrubs like Saskatoon.

[@Clbr153]

@@StefanSobkowiak Saskatoon ? Sounds like the name of a group of ska music ^^ thanks anyway 👍

[@MrWillyWonka]

How does growing a honey locust plant next to a fruit then benefit the fruit tree?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Adds fertility, breaks up pest movement, creates habitat for beneficials.

[@ahmadzeb3607]

Hello Sir, Can we plant native fruit trees on steep land?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes, steep, hilly, flat.

[@danahsutton101]

So for example a trio is, plant a nitrogen plant? apple tree, pear tree. Nap, but also add prenneals or flowers? This would make four? I'm new and confused on this. I'm getting ready to start my orchard in Paradise, CA. Can someone clear this up for me, thanks

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes a TRIO is 3 trees of different species, one being a nitrogen fixing tree or shrub. Other plants like fruiting shrubs and perennials are added under the canopy of the trees. You can even add vines on the nitrogen fixing trees, add some inoculated mushroom logs in the shade of the trees and pretty soon you will have a smorgasbord of food from that space.

[@JS-jh4cy]

What is your favorite soil book that you once mentioned a year or so ago

[@JS-jh4cy]

What was the book you said Stephan?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Soil and Health by Sir Albert Howard

[@b.l.a.c.k-shiva]

In an interview you had said you recommended planting as many plants from the onion family as possible. Why is that? I cab only guess it's to keep away animals...? Peace and Health

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Onion family is a known beneficial companion plant to rose family (all our fruit trees).

[@tehfuqizg0inon588]

Can a plumber cross polinate a apriot tree? Have a biiiggg apricot on the property that hasn't fruited and it's by itself, not sure if it needs a pollinator or not and all I could get at the local nursery was plums

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Not sure about plum and apricot cross pollinating. Well worth getting another apricot to do the job. Imagine the abundance you would be enjoying right now from that big tree. You could also overgraft a couple of smaller branches in that apricot with another apricot.

[@tehfuqizg0inon588]

Stefan Sobkowiak good idea! Love the channel

[@hcash1956]

Very beautiful. But how do you do this affordably? these trees must be at least 15 dollars each. Where can I source fruit/nut/nitrogen fixer on a budget?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

We grew all of them from seed, harvested from our own rootstock and sourced different cultivars to graft onto them. Time vs money option.

[@gurdala224]

The same idea of trios apply in case I want to involve citrus trees as fruit?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Absolutely, citrus would not grow as a monoculture in the wild but would be associated with other species.

[@gurdala224]

@@StefanSobkowiak I am in Mediterranean and would love to have citrus with plums or with pears or nuts. Thanks a lot appreciate a lot your knowledge

[@myvideos2704]

Hey stefan! Someone said you have to have a female tree and a Male tree for apples? Is that true?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Apple trees have both male and female flowers. For proper pollination you should have 2 different cultivars within 300m of each other and apple and crabapple count as two.

[@bryfsvt]

I do want to do this but in the state of Kentucky. USA Any suggestions for N, A, P

[@StefanSobkowiak]

N= redbud, black locust, Russian olive, honey locust,... A and P= yes apple or pear, plum, cherry, peach, fig, pawpaw, khaki (persimmon)..

[@bryfsvt]

Granted I have 1acre backyard. But it’s just grass now. Looking forward to planting this year

[@anofritz]

do i need nitrogen fixing trees if i add compost every 6 months? i only have legumes in option so...

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Go for it. Having enough compost for fruit trees is an awesome luxury.

[@yulianwang7482]

What are those Nitrigen fixing plants names? Thanks!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Honey locust, black locust, autumn olive, Russian olive, caragana, ...

[@mandythislovelypath3740]

I would love to purchase some walking onion sets from you! Is there a way to do that?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

If you’re in Canada yes by mail. In US look up some US supplier.

[@Green.Country.Agroforestry]

I got mine from this supplier in the US: www.egyptianwalkingonion.com/ the price was good, and they sent several more than I had ordered. Very VERY easy to grow and propagate … just like weeds!

[@DavidfromMichigan]

Hey big guy. Love this stuff! Can i ask how you deal with the plum circulio? That bug seems to infiltrate... everything! My poor fruit trees. I usually use neem oil, but i am wondering just how good it actually is. There's conflicting info on the net and i am worried that it will interrupt the nature of things. I know it's toxic to a bunch of other living things, like aquatic life and i have a stream running under my apples and peaches with beautiful trout running through. Is there something else i can use? There is some type of clay or something like it that i have seen some other people using but I'm not sure what is called. What, if any pesticides do you use? How can i safely eliminate these monsters. The fruit is actually still edible, but no one wants to eat a fruit with those little marks all over them.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

I used to use the clay it's called Kaolin clay. Used in toothpastes, kaopectate, and lots of other things. Works great, may be a little hard to find, under the name 'surround wp'. Hopefully next year I would like to start mass trapping them.

[@drewpeterson2588]

How do I start in southern michigan ?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

One trio at a time. Now is a good time to order your trees. Don't wait until spring because the orders are beyond the nurseries ability to supply them.

[@bigbuggie5]

How many trees can you plant in 1/4 acre with all the other supporting plants?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Depends on the rootstock you choose (dwarf to standard) between 100 to 25 trees.

[@chrisnortier8982]

Can I do the same with citrus trees...?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Absolutely plus you can use tall palms above citrus.

[@chrisnortier8982]

@@StefanSobkowiak thank you so much... What palms would you advice? And what will be the benefit of the palms?

[@iwonalasak-hughes5814]

Hihi you you have polish name and I also think the same we sayining in Poland " rules ate to broke them hihi" my husband is English and he fallow up even stupid rules . Regards z Panel Bogiem .

[@melig7543]

Could you do nitrogen, apple, peach?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Sure, good combo.

[@TheZeeebull]

Does this farm produce an income stream other than KZbin and tours?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes. U-Pick fruit and small fruit.

[@bhavens9149]

you know, I have no issue with the trio, easy enough, BUT the under story, no idea how to figure that out.

[@ZaneMedia]

B Havens definitely in agreement, we should do a whole video on that exact topic 👍

[@bhavens9149]

yeah! I'm looking forward to that!

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Did you catch this weeks video on the top 10 perennials?

[@bhavens9149]

Yes I did, and I gave it a thumbs up and shared it on twitter. oddly enough we seem to like a lot of the same perennials. One thing I was wondering is, how much should one vary the under story? I suspect that my whole under story for one trio shouldn't be garlic chives and say pomegranates. I suspect I'm supposed to vary these? even in one or two trios. ???

[@bhavens9149]

also do you ever plant annuals in with your perrenials? I've always been one to plant a variety of things together, I see no reason why my Brussel sprouts can't be planted with my wild flowers.

[@sharonloomis5264]

Is Seaberry a nitrogen fixer? How do you find out? Just ask? I like your idea; however, the idea of having an edible nitrogen fixer is very good. My yard is really small but dreaming. I rent.

[@StefanSobkowiak]

There are lists of nitrogen fixing trees and shrubs. Edible is great.

[@friedrichdostoyevsky491]

There are easier ways to fix nitrogen in the soil instead of trees. There are many nitrogen fixing perennial plants as well. Instead of putting down plastics or even mulches to keep weeds away, plant and provide for nitrogen fixing eating plant such as clover lupine etc. You can select for thick clover plantings that will serve as a mulch as well as a ground cover and fix nitrogen.

[@friedrichdostoyevsky491]

...Of course I mean all of this in between and underneath fruit and nut trees

[@friedrichdostoyevsky491]

Mistype, not nitrogen “eating”

[@friedrichdostoyevsky491]

You also don’t have to waste the space with a black locust tree and can instead grow a food tree

[@StefanSobkowiak]

I had that when it was a 4,000 tree monoculture Apple orchard. My conclusion is the nitrogen fixing trees are not wasted space.

[@soaringsavage]

In Bill Mollison’s book, intro to permaculture, he honey locust as an exception to the rule when it comes to legumes being nitrogen fixers. Were you aware of this? Or how has your experience been with it?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

I did not notice that in Bill's book, what page? There are now at least 2 pathways to nitrogen fixation, root nodules and whole root colonization with Frankia? i think is the genus. Honey locust is the latter. Works well for us and thornless is really the way to go.

[@soaringsavage]

It’s on page 17 under “1.6 using biological resources”. I’ll have to learn more about the nitrogen fixing pathways, that’s really interesting. I’m a beginner at this and hope to acquire land within the next year. Trying to learn what I can.

[@b.l.a.c.k-shiva]

Why not peanut as a nitrogen fixer? I've never looked into nitrogen fixers but I know peanuts are powerful in that regard. Peace and Health

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Mainly because it’s annual in our climate and so would need replanting.

[@richardsimes2173]

Thats a lot of Walking onions! Do you sell them? or your other perennials? or are they just part of the system

[@StefanSobkowiak]

Yes we sell the walking onions. I need to setup a seed business as part of the farm.

[@Mrbfgray]

I pause after first couple minutes to continue my tree/bush heavy mulching. :D (his advice)

[@matthewspaulding620]

What growing zone are you in?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

USDA 4, Ag Can 5

[@lmchoisser]

How do I know which trees are nitrogen fixers?

[@StefanSobkowiak]

A simple google search for your region will reveal several.